Rice Drops White House Claim That Iraqi Prime Minister Was Misquoted About Haditha
Rice Drops White House Claim That Iraqi Prime Minister Was Misquoted About Haditha
On Thursday, Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki, was quoted saying the following about Haditha:
This is a phenomenon that has become common among many of the multinational forces. No respect for citizens, smashing civilian cars and killing on a suspicion or a hunch. It’s unacceptable.
On Friday, White House Press Secretary Snow insisted that Maliki was “misquoted.” Snow was unable to say exactly how he was misquoted, saying “it’s a little hazy to me.”
This morning on Fox News Sunday, Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice was asked about Maliki’s comments. Rice said she had talked to Maliki directly about his remarks but did not claim Maliki was misquoted. Instead, she said he was “speaking to the concerns of the Iraqi people.” Watch it:
We’ve posted the transcript here.
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Condi loves truth.
June 4th, 2006 at 10:30 amI guess Condi didn’t see the poll from months ago which found that 80+% of Iraqis don’t want us there.
Goper’s Lament (Hard To Be A Republican
June 4th, 2006 at 10:30 amSomeone needs to hold Tony Snow accountable. This was another lie.
June 4th, 2006 at 10:30 amFlip Flop Flip Flop……What did he say? Looks like someone missed the team meeting. Thank God we have the extremely important ban on gay marriages admendment to distract us from this administrations incompetence.
June 4th, 2006 at 10:31 amWH communication apparatus continues to short circuit. Administration knows that Fitzgerald is lurking with indictments on Leak case. Uncertainties on magnitutde of charges and political fallout creating perpetual disarray inside WH. Haditha misquotes just a symptom of Administration dilemma. House of cards beginning to fall…………….
June 4th, 2006 at 10:48 amGee, that makes Tony Snow either an idiot
June 4th, 2006 at 10:51 amor a big fat liar…or both.
I think that Tony’s been asking himself, “What the hell have I gotten myself into?” ever since he started with the new job.
Any predictions regarding how long he’ll last?
June 4th, 2006 at 11:07 amCondi Rice is a pathological liar like Dubya Dunce Decider, and she is the worst Secretary of State in the United States history! She is war criminal who must be prosecuted someday!!!
June 4th, 2006 at 11:07 amMaybe Rice iknows that the massacres can’t be denied and she wants to look “fair”. Snow just looks like the right idiot for the job Bush gave him.
June 4th, 2006 at 11:09 amWas she asked about her reported affair with George Bush? About despoiling the Oval Office? About Bush’s referring to her in diplomatic cables as, “Wild Rice?”
June 4th, 2006 at 11:11 amHEADS UP EVERYONE (someone posted this yesterday and EVERYONE HAS TO KNOW!)
The Scariest Goddamn Film You’ll See This Year
June 4th, 2006 at 11:13 amAMERICA: FROM FREEDOM TO FASCISM
“FOUR STARS (Highest Rating). The scariest goddamn film you’ll see this year. It will leave you staggering out of the theatre, slack-jawed and trembling. Makes ‘Fahrenheit 9/11′ look like ‘Bambi.’ After watching this movie, your comfy, secure notions about America — and about what it means to be an American — will be forever shattered. Producer/director Aaron Russo and the folks at Cinema Libre Studio deserve to be heralded as heroes of a post-modern New American Revolution. This is shocking stuff. You’ll be angry, you’ll be disgusted, but you may actually break out in a cold sweat and feel a sickness deep in your gut; I would advise movie theatre managers to hand out vomit bags. You may end up needing one.”
— Todd David Schwartz, CBS
You know, it’s one thing for these guys to lie about this stuff - you kind of expect it at this point.
The real kicker here is that odds are that there’s not one person in the WH press corps who will challenge Snow on what he said last week.
Like atrios says, Snow’s just making shit up and the lapdogs don’t really seem to mind.
June 4th, 2006 at 11:25 amRice and this `Al Malliki’s my friend’ stuff is palpably absurd and childish.
Al-Malliki is from Al Dawa, a fundamentalist Shiite faction, a terrorist group with direct and long standing ties with Iran.
A `suicider’ from the Al-Dawa party bombed the US embassy in Kuwait in 1983.
In 1984, four men from Al Dawa highjacked a Kuwait airbus travelling from Kuwait to Pakistan.
They held the plane for six days.
During this time, these four men from Al Dawa shot and killed two Americans: Mr Charles Hegna and Mr William Stanford.
June 4th, 2006 at 11:34 amGood posts all. Rice on meet the press as I type. I agree with Jay Randal and add although she is very well educated she has dead eyes, the no soul type. Number 5 of the liers club in the whore house…..Peter #10 where did you get your info, is there any proof in the affair claim between her and bull shit bush. ? If there is it could be the only thing that would bring down these murderers..Please post the facts for us all……………Blessings
June 4th, 2006 at 11:40 amWould somebody please explain to me why Condi Rice dresses and acts like a harlot all over the world? She recently wore a mini skirt to a NATO meeting in Europe and when she sat down everyone could see her underwear > lol. It is extremely unprofessional to dress the way she does in public!
June 4th, 2006 at 11:54 amShe knows the crap cannot be covered up anymore. Maybe Bush should have hired Colbert after all.
June 4th, 2006 at 11:54 amsharon - did you hear her say, about iran, we’ll work on diplomacy “a little while”… sure caught my ear…
about “the affair” (!) - this is all i know so far:
June 2, 2006 — A White House source, speaking on background, vehemently denied to WMR that there are marital problems between President Bush and First Lady Laura Bush over a reported extramarital affair between Mr. Bush and Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice. However, two mainstream media sources have confirmed that their sources also have reported an ongoing affair between Mr. Bush and Rice.
June 4th, 2006 at 11:59 amhttp://www.waynemadsenreport.com/
(scroll down a bit, below the yellow box)
Rice Undercuts Tony Snow’s Explanation…
Attention Tony: you’re off to a very bad start as press secretary when your own Secretary of State undercuts your explanation.
June 4th, 2006 at 12:04 pm…
Is it just a glitch on my PC or is everyone suddenly able to get behind the NY Times firewall?
It’s as if Times Select no longer exists except in logo. I have Frank Rich’s article up but I suspect that it was just wasted effort on my part.
June 4th, 2006 at 12:06 pmAn affair between Chimp and Condoreeza Lice ?
June 4th, 2006 at 12:08 pmJust imagine THAT smell.
i just read this at crooks and liars:
sunday talking heads lineup: This Week hosts VP Gore. Ex-Labor Sec. Robert Reich and Time’s Jay Carney join the roundtable. Author John Updike is the Voices segment.
why every locale should have at least 2 network affiliates… my local and only abc station is airing a “childrens miracle network” telethon…
i know, i know…
June 4th, 2006 at 12:12 pmWORLD TO MONICA: WE NEED YOU!!!
Please give Bush a blow job so we can impeach him.
June 4th, 2006 at 12:22 pmI think that Tony’s been asking himself, “What the hell have I gotten myself into?†ever since he started with the new job.
Comment by The Liberal Avenger — June 4, 2006 @ 11:07 am
I know it’s easy to bash Snow because he is the mouth piece for the most corrupt regime in our brief history, but he seemed to be liked and respected by even liberal journalists. Maybe he is an actual conservative who had hoped to do a good job. I assume that is probably the reason he took the job and made so many demands. I’ve watched him a couple of times and either he’s really good at lying, or his demeanor suggests that he didn’t really know what he was getting into. I think he’ll try to stick it out, as it is only a couple years. But at some point, if he has an ounce of integrity, he might decide to cut his loses and write a historical non-fiction book about it (isn’t that the goal of many journalists?)
June 4th, 2006 at 12:26 pmPost 22 > it does not seem to matter anymore whether Bush gets or gives BJs to anybody?! Jeff Gannon slept overnight at least 12 times at the White House, and Jeff claims he is a TOP only which means guys him him BJs and not the other way around! Some in the press claim that Condi is having an affair with Bush, but the Republicans do not care! If Bill Clinton would had sex with his Secretary of State > he would have been forced to resign!
June 4th, 2006 at 12:28 pmIt is extremely unprofessional to dress the way she does in public!
Comment by Jay Randal — June 4, 2006 @ 11:54 am
Sex sells?
June 4th, 2006 at 12:28 pmSnow has had just one facelift too many. Half his brain spilled out with the last one. No wonder he’s “hazy.”
June 4th, 2006 at 12:32 pmIf there is it could be the only thing that would bring down these murderers..
Comment by Sharon Cox — June 4, 2006 @ 11:40 am
Hi Sharon - How’s the tree hugging today :) I’ve been doing some gardening myself now that school is out. Nothing like homegrown veggies (plus I figured last year I should learn how to feed myself - just in case. Much better crop this year. Last year - I would have starved :)
We have to start by putting the neocons in the minority in November. Not that I have much faith that that will occur now that they’ve figured out how to steal elections (which really isn;t very surprising considering everything else they steal… pension funds, life savings, teenagers college money, food money from teh middle class, etc…)
June 4th, 2006 at 12:34 pmHas Rice -or- Snow EVER told the truth, about anything?
June 4th, 2006 at 12:35 pmWell post 25 > the Foreign Secretary of Britain got so distracted by Condi that he called her condum > lol. In Arabic cultures a woman who dresses like Condi is considered a whore, so Bush sending her to Saudi Arabia is like sending a message: meet Condi my mistress!
June 4th, 2006 at 12:36 pmAnd it does not help that Condi calls Bush her husband to the press > what the hell is going on in the White House? Republicans said Bill Clinton disgraced the place getting BJs from Monica, but then Bush has the male hooker Gannon stay overnight and Condi calls Bush hubby > lol.
June 4th, 2006 at 12:41 pmHate to say anything which may tend to exonerate these jackasses, but Tony Snow may be right about this one. Looks like your quote above is correct, but check out this one from the New York Times:
From the above, it sounds like Maliki is saying our soldiers are running over Iraq civillians with cars, rather than simply smashing their cars. Maybe NYT is too busy investigating Hillary’s private life to quote Maliki correctly???
June 4th, 2006 at 12:43 pmI swear - I should become a pundit or something…I KNEW this would happen, I knew it. His base - i.e., his blind faithful, were getting just a bit too concerned about this issue…so hence…
Iraq is a flaming disaster! Bush takes to the radio to confront…gay wedding vows. A classic low point in American politics. 6/4
June 4th, 2006 at 12:44 pmAw mee gawd, a Fox reporter talked out of his ass! Oh. Wait. But he’s an ex-Fox reporter… Maybe the programming never leaves you…
June 4th, 2006 at 12:46 pmHELP! i need your help again!
June 4th, 2006 at 12:54 pmthis time for a LIST of the judges who actually DO “legislate from the bench”,
remember that one? thanks!
Jay,
Condi could learn a lot about self-esteem and dressing etiquette from Madeleine Albright. I always enjoy hearing her speak, even if I don’t agree with what she is saying, because she is confident, informed and articulate.
I could go on and on about the way the Republican Party generally subjugates women - reducing them to a womb and a few tricks (cook, maid, concubine), but I don’t have the inclination today to pull out that soap box. But I ‘m sure you know the gist of it. And it’s why Condi hasn’t the integrity of women like Albright, Margaret Thatcher or Indira Gandhi…
June 4th, 2006 at 1:05 pmMadeline Albright has 3 things Condie Rice does not.
Wisdom, grace, and diplomacy.
June 4th, 2006 at 1:08 pmLies again. Snow comes from Fox News, where their MO is to change the stated, and add their own words. This is also the MO of the White House…two pea’s in a pod.
June 4th, 2006 at 1:09 pmDT
Caption Contest;
BUSH BAGS RICE WHILE LAURA BOILS
Film at 11:00.
June 4th, 2006 at 1:15 pmPost 35 > Condi strikes me as a woman who decided the way to work herself up the ladder of success is to sleep with the boss! She became an executive at Chevron most likely by bedding the CEO since she got an Oil tanker named after her > lol. Then she convinced Bush to appoint her Secretary of State, after Colin Powell retired, so again it looks suspicious like she used her sexuality to gain the position!
June 4th, 2006 at 1:21 pmjay - i’m not sure if you are trying to establish yourself as a pundit, journalist, or gossip reporter, but i wish you would post the links to the stories and pictures you are talking about…
June 4th, 2006 at 1:31 pmi’m as curious as anyoneaand would love to see this info…
There is a dangerous argument emerging on Haditha. We heard it from the Big Giant Head last week (where he made false claims about Malmedy) and now today in a Washington Post op-ed by Frank Schaeffer. This is the “war is hell” and this kind of murder should be condoned argument. Here’s my take on why this argument is dangerous.
June 4th, 2006 at 1:37 pmWell, well, It appears Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice (Rice drops White House Claim that Iraqi Prime Minister was misquoted about Haditha) is letting Tony Snow, (the new White house Secretary) know who is in charge.
June 4th, 2006 at 1:47 pmThat same argument MASH, is the argument that fat Herman Goering wannabe Tony Blankley was making on the McLauglin Group this morning.
He successfully shouted down everyone and pushed his Nazi filth that the real crime is REPORTING the story.
He said the Marines should be investigating it in secret, internally.
He’s a pig. A big fat smelly Nazi PIG.
And I wish he’d go to Iraq.
June 4th, 2006 at 1:49 pmif he [Pony Blow] has an ounce of integrity
Not to worry, he doesn’t, not an ounce. I’ve listened to his radio show and his lies make Hannity & Limbaugh seem like truth-tellers.
June 4th, 2006 at 1:53 pmFLAVIUS, I caught that segment this morning on McLaughlin. Whenever Blankley starts off with “Well I don’t know…”, you know he is about to start lying his head off and shifting blame.
These guys are very dangerous.
June 4th, 2006 at 1:54 pm[…] Well, well, It appears Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice (Rice drops White House Claim that Iraqi Prime Minister was misquoted about Haditha) is letting Tony Snow, (the new White house Secretary) know who is in charge. […]
June 4th, 2006 at 1:56 pmWFB - Maliki is saying our soldiers are running over Iraq civillians with cars, rather than simply smashing their cars.
Wrong interpretation.
http://radamisto.blogspot.com/2006/02/7-year-old.html
On 14 July, the second grade schoolboy had gone to spend the night with two college friends and - this being a city without electricity in the hottest month of the year - they decided to spend the night sleeping in the front garden. Let his broken 65 year-old father Selim take up the story, for he’s the one who still cannot believe his son is dead - or what the Americans told him afterwards.
“It was three-thirty in the morning and they were all asleep, Yassin and his friends Fahed and Walid Khaled. There was an American patrol outside and then suddenly, a Bradley armoured vehicle burst through the gate and wall and drove over Yassin. You know how heavy these things are. He died instantly.
June 4th, 2006 at 1:59 pm#1: Condi loves truth. Condi = Veritasiness.
June 4th, 2006 at 1:59 pmThe only way to get the creepy Oil Tankerette to cop to anything approaching the truth is to have facts so irrefutable that she has no choice. Given a choice, the bitch would lie her head off as she so often has in the past.
June 4th, 2006 at 2:01 pmI can’t help wondering today how many of the innocents slaughtered in Haditha took the opportunity to vote in the Iraqi elections - before their ” liberators” murdered them.
READ ALL THE OTHER MASSACURES BY MARINES HERE
America is getting desperate for the oil contracts to be signed before their UN mandate runs out on Iraq december this year
The Iraqis are stalling forming a goverment until December that way the US have to stay In Iraq under Iraqi terms according to the UN mandate -
Bush is now too scared to admit to the american public hes blown his chances of nicking the oil . and is now busy creating civil wars and killing innocents to justify a long occupation. NOTE Bush has now been asked to leave Iraq twice by the Prime minister and failed to do so
June 4th, 2006 at 2:05 pmmission accomplished ( to steal the oil) will never happen you have lost the hearts and minds of the Iraqis forever - If the iraqis have any sense they will even throw your embassy staff out after this nonsense has finished
I dont know about anyone else but thats a damn scary pic of Condi. mayhap she is also a domintirix? i can see her in black leather with a whip smacking Goober on the hiney!!
June 4th, 2006 at 2:11 pmNote
It was an illegal war the invasion, After the Start of the war the UN made the war legal under UN resolution 14-41 ( Clever Tony Blair and sneaky )
Problem is The UN mandate runs out in December 2006 - from this date on everything will be illegal for America in Iraq and can only be invited to stay at the say so of the Iraqis
There will be no oil deals made before this date then iraq will be home and dry
June 4th, 2006 at 2:14 pmBush has no intention of adhering to any UN mandate and no intention of leaving Iraq - ever. That colossal fortress they call the American embassy in Baghdad is not temporary housing and the very idea that the puppet Iraqi government would or could “throw” them out is absurd. If history is any lesson, it will take a few more years before the embassy staff is forced to scramble for the last helicopter off the roof.
June 4th, 2006 at 2:15 pmmeg_mac….now that is truly scary!
June 4th, 2006 at 2:15 pmThis week, Tony Snow of the Fux Nutwork has dismissed statements from the Iraqi PM over Haditha and Ishaqi massacres, quoted Bush as not knowing that John Snow had resigned from Treasury, and mumbled and bumbled his way through every press conference. Could it be that the lovely grating sound is the metal to pavement roar of the wheels coming over the Bush bus?
June 4th, 2006 at 2:16 pmTobey… please dont shout. we can read.
June 4th, 2006 at 2:16 pm[…] Well, well, It appears Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice (Rice drops White House Claim that Iraqi Prime Minister was misquoted about Haditha) is letting Tony Snow, (the new White house Secretary) know who is in charge. […]
June 4th, 2006 at 2:18 pmTony Snow is finding that it is a lot easier to lie on Faux when you don’t have the inconvenience of facts to worry about. At the podium, he is unfortunately having a tougher time because facts are getting in the way.
June 4th, 2006 at 2:18 pm[…] Source…. « The Do It Yourself Online Presidential Leadership Quiz […]
June 4th, 2006 at 2:24 pmWho’s the idiot with the pingbacks trying to prove that La Oil Tankerette is her own, honest, straight talking woman?
June 4th, 2006 at 2:34 pmher pimp??
June 4th, 2006 at 2:44 pmWe will get absolutely nothing out of passing along gossipy tidbits - and not even be able to name a source. It is too much like the Republican mudslinging. Just tell a lie long enough and people will believe it.
I saw Sean Hannity doing it the other night - again - when he said John Kerry called our soldiers terrorists. He was called on that remark by a gues and he (LOL) looked down at the paper he was holding and said “it is true, it is right here” like having it on a piece of paper makes it true! John Kerry heard from our troops when he visited Iraq that they were being sent out at night to break into houses at random, that they were terrorizing Iraqis, women and children, for no good reason. There was no purpose, no mission.
The facts - the truth - will be the undoing of this administration and we should all strive to get them out there and be as accurate as possible. I don’t know of any way to show Condi and Jr are having an affair and it doesn’t matter!. We are losing our rights here in this country and our brave soldiers are being killed overseas. That is what is important. I weep for my country.
As for Condi, she studied Russian history, not Middle Eastern history. That is why she doesn’t understand the culture and doesn’t realize she could easily dress in a more appropriate way. But, hey, look at the Fox newsies - the females. They’ve got their skirts hiked up to their rear ends all the time. Look at Ann Coulter and her teeny tiny skirts. I guess it is one way to divert attention away from the nonsense views they are all putting out there.
June 4th, 2006 at 2:45 pmAmerica has already been asked to leave iraq twice ???
The first time
This is the second time we have been asked to leave the first one Arab-League orchestrated Reconciliation Conference in Cairo We demand the withdrawal of foreign forces in accordance with a timetable, and the establishment of a national and immediate program for rebuilding the armed forces…that will allow them to guard Iraq’s borders and to get control of the security situation The communiqué’s feisty tone was facilitated by the conspicuous and unexplained absence of U.S. representatives. By shunning the conference, administration officials missed the beginning of a process that has within it the seeds of real progress toward peace. In addition to more than 100 Shia, Sunni and Kurdish participants, the conference was attended by Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak and Algerian President Abdelaziz Bouteflika and the foreign ministers of Saudi Arabia, Syria and Iran—but no U.S. officials. The gathering was strongly supported not only by the Arab League but also by the U.N., EU and the Organization of the Islamic Conference.
The second time last week
Blair has been blinded by an imperialist illusion
Britain has been asked to leave Iraq by the leader it helped to install. Only arrogance or myopia can explain its refusal
Simon Jenkins
Wednesday May 31, 2006
telling you come december 2006 - You will be forced to leave by the UN and Bush will have to explain to the American people he acheived no SPOILS OF WAR and at least got rid of Saddam ???? shit will hit the fan
June 4th, 2006 at 2:48 pmWhy are you all so fussy about who said what?
June 4th, 2006 at 3:06 pmCondi and Tony can flip flop, lie, and make up things because they know that they won’t make the news cycle. The obvious strategy being ran by the administration is 2004 redux - Bush and the Senate are rolling out the gay marraige WMD, the second prong of the attack is to get the Ten Commandments debate rolling (the persecuted majority WMD- here), and the flank attack is any incident that remotely resembles terrorism. Anyone heard anything in the news cycles lately about the pervert at DHS, Dusty Foggo, the CIA and the hookers, the government and corporations spying on our citizens? Neither have I. As long as the corporations that sponsor the news shows have a say an honest debate about what is wrong and how to fix it in this country is a pipe dream.
June 4th, 2006 at 3:12 pmTobey… please dont shout. we can read.
Comment by meg_mac — June 4, 2006 @ 2:16 pm
No Tobey. Keep SHOUTING.
SHOUT FROM THE ROOFTOPS if you have to, but don’t ever let a Miss Manners democrat talk you out of wearing your game face again.
We tried it their way, and look what happened.
June 4th, 2006 at 3:16 pmWhy are you all so fussy about who said what? –Comment by TonyS - - (THUD)
June 4th, 2006 at 3:18 pmYou know I really thought more republicans would show some of what it really means to be American, as the stories fo these massacres started coming out.
I remember my dad and his brothers, who used to let me and my cousin hang out in the garages and backyards, where these big greasy giants talked about how great America was, and how in WW2, we “got the job done“.
The saying I heard the most back them from these greasy haired, unshaven motorcycle riding rednecks was, America doesn’t start wars, but we sure as hell finish them.
I thought the republicans would wax American, and remember those types of heros that we all looked up to back then. But I guess I was wrong.
June 4th, 2006 at 3:24 pmFlavius…. this Miss Manners democrat is also OCD (obsessive -compulsive). it just messes up the screen and it’s natural flow!! no political motivations there. Just bugs me!
June 4th, 2006 at 3:25 pmA Hero to a republican today, would have been a coward and a bad guy, to our fathers, and their fathers.
June 4th, 2006 at 3:28 pmThats cool Meg_mac, and I wasn’t intending to dis you, but we need 1 million Tobey Talls to shout from the top of their lungs, until things change.
I understand the bold type interupts the flow, but thats the idea. It makes it easier to read for me actually, but nonetheless, as liberals, progressives, democrats and left wingers, we need to put on our game faces and fight fight fight.
No more John Kerry or Tom Daschle flowery speaches, and one sided comprimises. No more Nancy Pelosi’s or Hilary’s talking Liberal and then Voting Conservative.
I bet AL GORE knows what I’m talking about. He learned his lessen in 2000.
And thats why I think AL GORE is going to be the next President of the United States.
June 4th, 2006 at 3:33 pmShe’s cleaning up Snow’s mess. Misquoted? I thought this guy had experience working on television. Colbert for Press Secretary!!!!!!!
June 4th, 2006 at 3:35 pmMore good posts. Raining big time in Wash. State today…..Hugging pup’s instead of trees today…..Not growing food in my garden this year, it looks like an english garden I am told. Stuffed full of bird, butterfly and bee delights…..I have 6 months worth of canned supplies stored plus water and amo……Not enough room for more right now….Injoyed your posts Unbelievable and Jay, along with many others…..This evil woman Rice needs to go to jail along with her cohorts…..It would be nice if all the suspected rumors about her and bush could be proved…..Wonder if pickles would stand by her man, or maybe repeat past performance and run him over with a car. Please forgive the dark humor if it offends….LOL….Blessings
June 4th, 2006 at 3:38 pmI am convinced that Condi cannot fathom why she can dress like Lindsay Lohan and the still not charm the leaders of the world like Albright always could. It’s called integrity, grace, and gravitas, Madame Secretary. Take your Katrina-shopping shoe wardrobe and get back to college where you belong. I’m sure some school can use a cold-war academic in their History department.
How could Tony Snow watch Scott McLellan and not know he was gonna take it up the ass for the next 3 years?
June 4th, 2006 at 3:39 pmDid you see Joe Biden on Meet the Press this morning?
I just want to grab him and shake him, and say stop RUNNING for President, and start acting like one.
He was almost there today. He said a lot of the right stuff, and really was quite clear and articulate.
That is until Tim Russert asked him the following question.
Senator Ted Kennedy has said that his vote AGAINST the war in Iraq was the BEST vote he EVER cast in the senate. That being said, do you think your vote for the war was a mistake?
And how did Biden answer? Russert had given him a great opportunity to come clean, show real remorse, and show what it means to take responsibility. All he had to do was take it.
But instead, he went on with a ramble about how “at the time” it seemed right, blah blah blah.
If Joe Biden wants to be President, then he should have looked at time and said, It was the WORST vote I ever cast, and if I could take it back I’d take it back 1000 times.
In fact, Russert gave him a second opportunity to show some accountability, by asking him does he feel blame for the war.
Biden said “no”.
June 4th, 2006 at 3:39 pmI like Joe Biden. I think hes a good man with a good mind, but he’s still playing by last years rule book.
Americans can forgive a mistaken vote, especially when they know the powers that be deceived the Congress, and coerced them into making the vote based upon cherry picked intelligence, most of which had already been discounted.
But this American can’t forgive him, or others, if they won’t admit to it.
June 4th, 2006 at 3:43 pm70/ AL GORE is going to be the next President of the United States.
i really hope so too is he running ???
June 4th, 2006 at 3:44 pmHe’s running. He hasn’t announced yet, but I think he ultimately will.
That is if enough of us Americans who KNOW he won 2000, and know what a GREAT man he is, and what an INTELLIGENT and COMPASSIONATE man he is, get behind him full throttle now.
I think Gore got scared in 2000, when Bush threatened to use the National Guard to take the White House (this happened, but most people don’t remember or didn’t hear about it when it happened and now no ones talking about it) and he relinquished because he thought he was doing the best thing for the Country.
Gore KNOWS now, that God is NOT with George Bush, and he sees Bush for what he is.
A stupid little mean man.
June 4th, 2006 at 3:51 pmGores best assest is his big fat brain.
If people actually READS his stuff, they will see that Gore has vision, and the rest of the worlds wearing bi-focals.
June 4th, 2006 at 3:52 pmI agree Toby, hope Gore is going to run and win. I met him in person, Missoula, Montana. when he and Clinton were running for the first election. Great mind and would make a good president..Voted for him and have been enraged that his win was stolen since……Like your posts also……..Blessings
June 4th, 2006 at 3:53 pmFor Jay Randal if you are still lurking
You may yet get your wish for a scandal that the media would cover.
http://tinyurl.com/kp8ts
June 4th, 2006 at 3:53 pmhttp://tinyurl.com/k3coj
Just this in.
C. Rice is negotiating with Regnery for a book on national security and wartime diplomacy. The tentative title is, “My Years Under Bush.”
And now, if Katie will hold my sunglasses, I’d like to offer this program reminder. Olbermann presents part 2 of O’Reilly on Malmedy tomorrow night.
June 4th, 2006 at 4:04 pm81: “My Years Under Bush.â€
You got to be kidding. Well hit my links, for some related comedy that will redefine the meaning of “My Years Under Bush.â€
June 4th, 2006 at 4:08 pmI think she should call it, “Uncle Bens Cabin“.
June 4th, 2006 at 4:11 pmI guess this is one tar baby that Snow won’t hug. :p
June 4th, 2006 at 4:20 pmThe New York Times in the Fri or Sat paper had a correction to its original translation of Maliki’s remarks: where he was quoted as saying that American troops killed Iraqi civilians on a “daily” basis, he had actually said it was on a “regular” basis. That’s the sum total of how he was misquoted.
June 4th, 2006 at 4:32 pmWow, regular, daily, what a monumental difference.
Isn’t it enough to say that he is telling us that the only thing we’re liberating his people from is their skins?
June 4th, 2006 at 4:40 pm#72 sharon cox
June 4th, 2006 at 4:56 pmI appreciate your always down-to-earth comments. Some, like today, make me smile when you suggest that Laura might run Georgie over with her car (she does have a history of that). Earlier you wrote that Rice has “dead eyes” and I thought — that’s it! That’s what I see when she is on TV - her eyes have no depth — if the eyes are the window to the soul, her soul has long departed.
Its clear that the SNOWBLOWER, is trying to downplay this obvious condemnation and chastisement from the newly elected Iraqi Prime Minister.
He’s going to tell us to leave. Thats clear.
Then we will see just HOW free Bush is ready to let the Iraqi people be.
June 4th, 2006 at 5:07 pmWonder if pickles would stand by her man, or maybe repeat past performance and run him over with a car. Please forgive the dark humor if it offends….LOL….Blessings
Comment by Sharon Cox — June 4, 2006 @ 3:38 pm
Sharon - you’re hilarious… (when it comes to White House humor - the darker the more reality based it is :)
June 4th, 2006 at 5:32 pmWorfeus,
I would love to see Gore run for President in 2008. And pick a better running mate - like Feingold. But, he seems to be pretty staunchly stating that he’s happier with his new job and does not plan to run again.
Well, we do have two more years (shudder) before he’ll have to decide. A lot could change - including his mind. I just hope we’ll still have a democracy by then. At this rate, the Bush Regime seems to be intently working installing on a fascist theocracy. Today its flag burning and gay marriage - next it will be the internet.
June 4th, 2006 at 5:40 pmUnbelievabale… we may have to draft Gore for the nomination. Hillary isnt going to cut it. We will need someone very strong to get past John McCain. Gore has to be the guy!! I liked Biden but dont think he will get past the plagiarist tag. Unless he hits it head on and brings it back to the repugs. I’m worried.
June 4th, 2006 at 6:16 pmUnbelievabale… we may have to draft Gore for the nomination
Comment by meg_mac — June 4, 2006 @ 6:16 pm
I agree. Lets draft Gore and if we won’t come willingly, we’ll drag him all the way to the Oval Office.
Its where he was supposed to be right now, and if he was, we wouldn’t be in here on a Sunday blogging.
We’d all be out spending our money, enjoying the FRESH air, and travelling all over the world greeting our FRIENDS in every country.
June 4th, 2006 at 6:39 pmhe seems to be pretty staunchly stating that he’s happier with his new job and does not plan to run again.
Comment by unbelievable — June 4, 2006 @ 5:40 pm
He’s just being coy.
June 4th, 2006 at 6:42 pmI prefer Clark or Edwards over Gore or Hillary.
I just never have liked the idea of Gore or Hillary as President, but still I will admit that either would be:
OVER ONE-HUNDRED MILLION TIMES BETTER THAN THE INCOMPETENT IDIOT WE HAVE IN THEIR NOW!
June 4th, 2006 at 7:09 pmGore? Feingold? You are all fools.
June 4th, 2006 at 7:26 pmUnfortunately, it took a segregationist to remind us that ‘there’s not a dime worht of difference’ between the parties.
They’ll all abuse their power.
They all never work in the people’s interest.
They just abuse their powers in different ways.
The current group starts illegal Wars, bans books like “Ameirca Deceived” and silences Zundel.
The next will do the same.
Revolution is the answer.
Here’s the last link before Google Books succombs:
http://www.iuniverse.com/ bookstore/ book_detail.asp?&isbn=0-595-38523-0
Thank’s Marie and Unbelievable…Todays top pick in humor has to go to Terry for his “My Years Under Bush” book title. I lost it with that one and the visual of condoom and bull shit bush was to much for me. ….My pick’s for pres would include Gore, Finegold maybe Roberts for vp. He’s great but fear he may be to nice like Carter was….Good man though…There are so few that are standing their ground and have the charecter. Kuchenech (sp) is another good one with a great mind and standing his ground but does not so far have the carisma to pull it off. To bad to because he is probably the best of the lot for knoledge, good ideas and judgements. One major problem in our country is the look of a man, is he handsome can he rattle off great made up lines, will the women vote for him and how about all the right wing, Nascar, rodeo, beer drinking bunch…..JFK had it, Clinton does to, bush appealed to the relegious lied to right and the rest was stolen history. Bush’s bag of tricks is just that, bags of tricks and built up by constant retelling of lies over and over again…Roberts may have the look and the intelect but then again he may be to nice a guy. What we need is a good one, looks good for the woman vote, believes in changing this mess, constantly standing fast at every vote, great mind, diplomatic and the where with all to be the biggest pit bull on the block to get the bad guys out of office and clean up our country…..The best fighter with all those qualaties will win. …….Great posts all……The rain stoped so gonna run the Bear (pup) and hug some trees……Blessings
June 4th, 2006 at 8:46 pmGood posts everyone! I have been busy all afternoon so not able to lurk on here as somebody conjectured > lol.
June 4th, 2006 at 9:26 pmCondi Rice looks very mean in that pic on this thread > she must be a ball breaker in bed or someone who dresses in black leather with a whip > lol.
June 4th, 2006 at 9:49 pmMore like the Medusa
June 4th, 2006 at 9:54 pmCunnilingus Reich.
-GSD
June 4th, 2006 at 9:59 pm98 yah but did you see the links? Just a freindly return of favor for last weeks hilarity
June 4th, 2006 at 11:42 pmWow-frightening, Orwellian.
June 4th, 2006 at 11:56 pmSomebody should put the bodies of slain civilians in Condi´s living room and forced her to eat dinner with them on sight. Murderer.
June 5th, 2006 at 12:59 amMy picks for President/Vice President… Easy:
Wesley Clark - President
Senator Barbara Boxer - Vice President
done.
June 5th, 2006 at 1:03 amOne more thing, if Hillary Clinton is on the ticket then I’m staying home. There won’t be any need for me to vote for another DINO. When she said she supported the Flag Burning issue and doesn’t regret her Iraq War vote that was it for me. I’m over her… PERIOD!
June 5th, 2006 at 1:06 am#39. it looks suspicious like she used her sexuality to gain the position!
Comment by Jay Randal
She used her what? Come on…some of us are having a snack here.
June 5th, 2006 at 1:07 amSpeaking of those “activist judges” legislating from the bench, it HAPPENED in Loving vs. Virginia and we would NEVER HAVE HAD inter-racial marriage if “activist judges” hadn’t “legislated” from the bench therefore, REPUBLICANS need to shut the hell up and stop being so FASCIST and UN-AMERICAN! STOP ATTACKING OUR JUDICIARY over your hate, Republicans.
June 5th, 2006 at 1:12 am# 50
Comment by Tobey Tall
Well, I disagree. I dont think US gov is desperate. Maybe it is internally with the low opinion in US about Bush, but in foreign affairs, I dont think they are: Mr. Kofi Annan is really tough when it comes to punish US about its foreign policy. Yeah, right. Where are UN’s headquarters??? mmmm…that is right, NY. UN is a little more than a puppy that US can shoo easily.
Iraqi Prime Minister is really looking after how much would it be left for him. I am sure he is really worried about his people. Again, yeah, right.
The only way US can back up is by internal pleasure. Why do you think they have to blow their own WTC´s? So they could have the US citizens approval on Iraq, Afghanistan, Iran, Latvia…whatever…
June 5th, 2006 at 1:22 am# 50
Comment by Tobey Tall
Well, I disagree. I dont think US gov is desperate. Maybe it is internally with the low opinion in US about Bush, but when it comes to foreign opinions, I dont think they care: Mr. Kofi Annan is really tough when it comes to punish US about its foreign policy. Yeah, right. Where are UN’s headquarters??? mmmm…that is right, NY. UN is a little more than a puppy that US can shoo easily.
Iraqi Prime Minister is really looking after how much would it be left for him. I am sure he is really worried about his people. Again, yeah, right.
The only way US can back off is by internal pressure. Why do you think they have to blow their own WTC´s? So they could have the US citizens approval on Iraq, Afghanistan, Iran, Latvia…whatever…
June 5th, 2006 at 1:23 amCondi delivers George Orwell’s wet dream: Two Absolute Truths which call each other the lie! This is the neo-con mantra which they can both claim: “You’re either with me or you’re for the enemy.”
If it were only as black and white as Condi and Snow….
“…a little hazy” for Snow? Well, FOX never had accurate weather.
June 5th, 2006 at 1:35 amI agree Snow will Probably try to “stick it out.” That’s what the neo-cons do: Get a well-paying job far out of your league and then masturbate until you get promoted to more pay for a “heckuva job.” (which is Orwell-speak for screwing the Nation, according to plan.)
We can only hope Snow will “stick iot out” long enough to get it cut off. Then, instead of the “Snow-job” or the blow-job, we may get truth. Don’t hold your breath.
June 5th, 2006 at 1:54 amBush launches the nuclear war against Iran on Tuesday. 6-6-06.
I’m not going to relax about this superstition until Tuesday is over.
-dwvr
June 5th, 2006 at 1:56 amCondi and Bush caught in an affair? Puts new meaning to the phrase, “(I’ll stick to you) like white on rice.”
It does explain her arrogant swager, like she’s been bustin’ broncos (or sleepy-drunk frat-boys) all day.
June 5th, 2006 at 1:59 amTony Blair a liar OR stupid… i resent the implication that he is too busy to be both. Tony is capable of being stupid AND being a liar.
Condi and Bush together? Like BUSH on RICE. Heard she has a new tatoo, put Ws name on a brain of rice.
What do i like most about W in office… like they say in utah, i trust the man, he has integrity, when i look into his sole i see an honest man with good intentions… hey is anyone else getting sick?
You gotta hope that once they kick the US out of Iraq, they nationalize the oil industry.
June 5th, 2006 at 2:17 amCAIRO: The Arab League on Sunday condemned the alleged massacres of Iraqi civilians by US troops and said that it supported investigations by the Iraqi government into the charges. “The Arab League expresses its strong condemnation and denunciation of these crimes,†the Cairo-based pan-Arab body said in a statement. It came a day after the US military cleared its troops of any wrongdoing over the raid on March 15 in the town of Ishaqi, south of Samarra, which resulted in civilian fatalities. US officials said that four people died in the raid after US forces were tipped off that a supporter of al-Qaeda was visiting a house in Ishaqi. A report filed by Iraqi police, however, accused US soldiers of rounding up and deliberately shooting 11 people in the house, including five children and four women, before blowing up the building.
June 5th, 2006 at 6:55 amBush and his crony cabinet are addicted to LYING. They can’t say anything resembling the truth. We American citizens are faced with a very precarious situation, nut-balls in the executive suite.
June 5th, 2006 at 10:22 am“That same argument MASH, is the argument that fat Herman Goering wannabe Tony Blankley was making on the McLauglin Group this morning.
He successfully shouted down everyone and pushed his Nazi filth that the real crime is REPORTING the story.
He said the Marines should be investigating it in secret, internally.
He’s a pig. A big fat smelly Nazi PIG.
And I wish he’d go to Iraq.
Comment by FLAVIUS `WORFEUS — June 4, 2006 @ 1:49 pm”
I trust you are aware that Tony Blankley is a lackey of the Reverend Moon… in reality. The rev is the man who signs his paychecks, so I don’t see how any of this should come as a surprise. It emanates from a source that sits upon the high moral ground of a hard water deposit in the bottom of a toilet bowl.
June 5th, 2006 at 12:37 pmThe drunken orgie is about to bring the house down. Whether it starts with 6-6-6 or 6-9/10 or 3-21-08 or 6-6-2012 or 12-21-2012; whether it’s biblical or Mayan or a combo of both, we are in for a real awakening. And I use to be on the positive side of things.
June 5th, 2006 at 12:52 pm“Would somebody please explain to me why Condi Rice dresses and acts like a harlot all over the world? She recently wore a mini skirt to a NATO meeting in Europe and when she sat down everyone could see her underwear > lol. It is extremely unprofessional to dress the way she does in public!
Comment by Jay Randal — June 4, 2006 @ 11:54 am”
No offense, Jay… but isn’t this a distraction from the issue? I could care less whether Ms. Rice dresses like a hoochie when the actual issue is the fact that US enlisted personnel are running around committing war crimes that are sanctioned by the Bush administration and paid for by our tax dollars. It makes me sick to know that my tax returns helped to pay for Sgt. Frank Wuterich & co.’s sociopathic and murderous rampage.
June 5th, 2006 at 1:00 pm120 > Frand Wuterich & Co undoubtedly did what they did to survive. It’s not for us (who are here) to assign blame and/or shame to our soldiers (over there). We know not what happens there, nor does it seem, do we necessarily care. But quick are we to proclaim “war crimes” to our enlisted men and women. Let us not blame the poor soldiers who do their masters bidding - for them it’s a job, and they want to come home - just like we do at 5pm. So how they stay alive is not a concern for me, it’s that they STAY alive that I worry about.
June 5th, 2006 at 3:47 pmIt’s the scary class of criminals in power that I worry about. It’s the state of the great nation I grew up in, how’s it going to be left to my children - even my grand children, that keeps me awake at night. The fact that we went to war, questionably for human rights, not to defend a smaller country, not even to defend an attack on our homeland (Iraq was NEVER definitely linked to 9/11) - scares me to no end.
Ladies and gentleman - the time is coming for a reckoning of biblical proportions. Our country is at stake. Our legacy is at stake; how can we rise up from the rabble of idiocy, the talk of murderers, and the lapse of our watchdog (aka “lapdog”) press corps? How can we, the working class - afford to protest - generate the will needed to take on a corrupt fallicy of government? Is there anyone out there who cares enough?
Hey, Condi, don’t try to spin this, even though the truth hurts.
June 5th, 2006 at 4:36 pm“Frand Wuterich & Co undoubtedly did what they did to survive.”
Is it your contention that a year old infant and an 89 year old man in a wheelchair were going to lob grenades at these guys? Face it. They went all “Heart of Darkness” on innocent civilians. How would you feel if an occupying force decided to slaughter your family for no reason based in objective reality, hmm? I know how I’d feel. It might affect my decision making processes AND my organizational bent.
June 5th, 2006 at 5:07 pm#64: the last thing I would ever want to see is Ann Coulter in a tiny miniskirt. I would have to be committed after that nightmare.
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Comment by Erinn Benes:
It makes me sick to know that my tax returns helped to pay for Sgt. Frank Wuterich & co.’s sociopathic and murderous rampage.
I’m sorry, maybe I missed something. Were you there? Do you know all the circumstances or just what the media want you to know? Was I there? No. Do I know all the circumstances or just what the media wants me to know? I don’t know all the circumstances. But there is one thing I know that you don’t-my brother. I don’t care what the media says, my brother is NO monster or how did you put it….a sociopath! That is what makes me sick with the actual public. The public reads, sees and hears stories put out by the media and to them it is all 100% true without a doubt. It is carved in stone, blah blah blah. Yes, the incident in Haditha happened. There is no way to say it didn’t. I am not denying that. If the incident happened where the people were indeed totally innocent and no threat to the military, I do feel bad for the people there as well. But who knows truly what happened that day?! I don’t, you don’t, no one does. There was no media with them that day during the incident. Most of the media has angered me due to most articles just pointing the finger and making judgment calls. I, like anyone, part of a family, will stand behind my brother.
June 10th, 2006 at 3:12 pm[…] Most of the questions revolved around the selection process, the venues and schedule, the field rules during competition, and how much wood would a woodchuck chuck if a woodchuck could chuck wood. Bobbing and weaving from the vicious blows of reporters’ microphones like a bad actress in a highly overrated Eastwood film, longtime committee member Ali Schtittgotdun managed to say much of nothing which clearly revealed her Tony Snow training. […]
June 12th, 2006 at 7:51 pmComment 126> I can only assume that when watching on the screen about some inner city black kid who has been beaten by 6-8 cops and only listening to the cop’s side of the story, your reaction would be the same as those here. Tell your brother, welcomr to being Black in America. Hopefully now you will realize that there are two sides to everyone’s story.
June 27th, 2006 at 11:13 am