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]]> By: Tom http://thinkprogress.org/2006/06/05/nr-dismisses-factual-errors/comment-page-2/#comment-634113 Tom Thu, 22 Jun 2006 15:48:51 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/06/05/nr-dismisses-factual-errors/#comment-634113 *** You guys sound like a bunch of chicken littlies telling the farmer the sky is falling… Nature class 101, you should have been taught this in the first grade, but I will educate you non the less; You breathe out CO2… Trees breathe it in and produce oxygen… The circle of life, nature always provides a balance… Car combustion, be it Corn alcohol or oil based gasoline, both produce CO2… Switching to GREEN fuel will not stop this, actually it is 10 percent less efficient so it would POLLUTE(as you do every time you take a breath) more… So I say all you tree hugging nature nazis hold your breath… Sorry couldn’t resist… It would however lessen our dependants on foreign oil so I am for it… The earths temp has always been changing and will always do so… i.e…. Past oceans are now deserts. Lets suppose you are sitting on your coach and your house began getting to warm. Would you sit there and swear that there was to much CO2 warming the house? No, you would get up and walk to the thermostat and turn down the heat! Why would you do that? Because it is your furnace heating your home… Guess what, we get our heat from the sun, the solar cycles match our past hot and cool stages… Hmmmm… Sounds logical to me… Hotter sun = Warmer Earth… That makes as much sense as a “scientist” telling half the truth or declaring worst case scenarios to recieve his grants… Many are just trying to collect thier paycheck and look for “science” to justify thier existence while ignoring conflicting facts to thier belief system… That being said you may have a valid point about CO2 holding in the heat. The solution then would be to plant more trees, or let nature take its course and let the plants catch up with our CO2 output… Unless all that shade led to global cooling… PS; CO2(Carbon Dioxide, the global warming gas) is also used for carbonation in soda so fear the poison, and please consider holding your breath… *** You guys sound like a bunch of chicken littlies telling the farmer the sky is falling…
Nature class 101, you should have been taught this in the first grade, but I will educate you non the less; You breathe out CO2… Trees breathe it in and produce oxygen… The circle of life, nature always provides a balance… Car combustion, be it Corn alcohol or oil based gasoline, both produce CO2… Switching to GREEN fuel will not stop this, actually it is 10 percent less efficient so it would POLLUTE(as you do every time you take a breath) more… So I say all you tree hugging nature nazis hold your breath… Sorry couldn’t resist… It would however lessen our dependants on foreign oil so I am for it…

The earths temp has always been changing and will always do so… i.e…. Past oceans are now deserts. Lets suppose you are sitting on your coach and your house began getting to warm. Would you sit there and swear that there was to much CO2 warming the house? No, you would get up and walk to the thermostat and turn down the heat! Why would you do that? Because it is your furnace heating your home… Guess what, we get our heat from the sun, the solar cycles match our past hot and cool stages… Hmmmm… Sounds logical to me… Hotter sun = Warmer Earth…

That makes as much sense as a “scientist” telling half the truth or declaring worst case scenarios to recieve his grants… Many are just trying to collect thier paycheck and look for “science” to justify thier existence while ignoring conflicting facts to thier belief system…

That being said you may have a valid point about CO2 holding in the heat. The solution then would be to plant more trees, or let nature take its course and let the plants catch up with our CO2 output… Unless all that shade led to global cooling…

PS; CO2(Carbon Dioxide, the global warming gas) is also used for carbonation in soda so fear the poison, and please consider holding your breath…

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]]> By: redneck hick http://thinkprogress.org/2006/06/05/nr-dismisses-factual-errors/comment-page-2/#comment-596381 redneck hick Mon, 05 Jun 2006 21:15:14 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/06/05/nr-dismisses-factual-errors/#comment-596381 At least blaming sunspots is something new :) At least blaming sunspots is something new :)

]]> By: redneck hick http://thinkprogress.org/2006/06/05/nr-dismisses-factual-errors/comment-page-2/#comment-596366 redneck hick Mon, 05 Jun 2006 21:10:06 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/06/05/nr-dismisses-factual-errors/#comment-596366 #56 If he didn't read the widely-available literature before coming here, why would he read it now? Bush and his supporters constantly make fraudulent claims. Debunking their bunk may seem like tilting at windmills, but it needs to be done publicly and often. The good news is, they have nothing new. They're rehashing the same old arguments from ignorance, reshuffling to hide the inconsistencies for the nth time. #56 If he didn’t read the widely-available literature before coming here, why would he read it now? Bush and his supporters constantly make fraudulent claims. Debunking their bunk may seem like tilting at windmills, but it needs to be done publicly and often.

The good news is, they have nothing new. They’re rehashing the same old arguments from ignorance, reshuffling to hide the inconsistencies for the nth time.

]]> By: JJ http://thinkprogress.org/2006/06/05/nr-dismisses-factual-errors/comment-page-2/#comment-596361 JJ Mon, 05 Jun 2006 21:07:36 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/06/05/nr-dismisses-factual-errors/#comment-596361 By the way, signing off this thread... I've given enough reading material to keep our "skeptic" troll busy for a while. By the way, signing off this thread… I’ve given enough reading material to keep our “skeptic” troll busy for a while.

]]> By: redneck hick http://thinkprogress.org/2006/06/05/nr-dismisses-factual-errors/comment-page-2/#comment-596358 redneck hick Mon, 05 Jun 2006 21:06:32 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/06/05/nr-dismisses-factual-errors/#comment-596358 #51 They're already convinced and have tougher auto standards than we do. All we need to do is share green technology with them. But of course, first we would have to develop it ourselves. Of course, if you don't buy into the science, you wouldn't care how much coal they burn anyway, or how dirty the burning is. Why aren't you arguing to relax our own emissions standards, back to the 1800s? If it's all just hype... #51 They’re already convinced and have tougher auto standards than we do. All we need to do is share green technology with them. But of course, first we would have to develop it ourselves. Of course, if you don’t buy into the science, you wouldn’t care how much coal they burn anyway, or how dirty the burning is. Why aren’t you arguing to relax our own emissions standards, back to the 1800s? If it’s all just hype…

]]> By: JJ http://thinkprogress.org/2006/06/05/nr-dismisses-factual-errors/comment-page-2/#comment-596354 JJ Mon, 05 Jun 2006 21:05:30 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/06/05/nr-dismisses-factual-errors/#comment-596354 No dude. We are: http://www.ucsusa.org/global_warming/science/each-countrys-share-of-co2-emissions.html No dude. We are: http://www.ucsusa.org/global_warming/science/each-countrys-share-of-co2-emissions.html

]]> By: JJ http://thinkprogress.org/2006/06/05/nr-dismisses-factual-errors/comment-page-2/#comment-596346 JJ Mon, 05 Jun 2006 21:02:56 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/06/05/nr-dismisses-factual-errors/#comment-596346 For some people, it always breaks in the direction of doing nothing. Why? For some people, it always breaks in the direction of doing nothing. Why?

]]> By: redneck hick http://thinkprogress.org/2006/06/05/nr-dismisses-factual-errors/comment-page-2/#comment-596341 redneck hick Mon, 05 Jun 2006 21:02:12 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/06/05/nr-dismisses-factual-errors/#comment-596341 #48 Does the MIT coalition know they have one professor who disagrees and is cited ad nauseum? I bet they do. Funny how one professor gets more attention from the think tanks than the larger group at MIT. I wonder why... #48 Does the MIT coalition know they have one professor who disagrees and is cited ad nauseum? I bet they do. Funny how one professor gets more attention from the think tanks than the larger group at MIT. I wonder why…

]]> By: Randy http://thinkprogress.org/2006/06/05/nr-dismisses-factual-errors/comment-page-2/#comment-596336 Randy Mon, 05 Jun 2006 21:01:00 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/06/05/nr-dismisses-factual-errors/#comment-596336 What is your game plan to convince China, the world's worst polluter, to change their ways? Lord knows you can't force regime change given the example of Iraq and the government controls all media etc. You know I don't buy into the all of the global warming fear mongering going on. If you can't convince me, how are you ever going to make the rest of the world buy in? What is your game plan to convince China, the world’s worst polluter, to change their ways? Lord knows you can’t force regime change given the example of Iraq and the government controls all media etc. You know I don’t buy into the all of the global warming fear mongering going on. If you can’t convince me, how are you ever going to make the rest of the world buy in?

]]> By: JJ http://thinkprogress.org/2006/06/05/nr-dismisses-factual-errors/comment-page-1/#comment-596327 JJ Mon, 05 Jun 2006 20:58:12 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/06/05/nr-dismisses-factual-errors/#comment-596327 And that wheel, by the way, is out of date: http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/story/0,,1719607,00.html And that wheel, by the way, is out of date:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/story/0,,1719607,00.html

]]> By: redneck hick http://thinkprogress.org/2006/06/05/nr-dismisses-factual-errors/comment-page-1/#comment-596323 redneck hick Mon, 05 Jun 2006 20:57:01 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/06/05/nr-dismisses-factual-errors/#comment-596323 Yep, that's the oil company think tank position. Do nothing for twenty years (does the "Party of No" ring a bell?), block research, then admit we were wrong if necessary. That's a risk Randy is more than willing to take. With all of us. Yep, that’s the oil company think tank position. Do nothing for twenty years (does the “Party of No” ring a bell?), block research, then admit we were wrong if necessary.

That’s a risk Randy is more than willing to take. With all of us.

]]> By: JJ http://thinkprogress.org/2006/06/05/nr-dismisses-factual-errors/comment-page-1/#comment-596306 JJ Mon, 05 Jun 2006 20:52:30 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/06/05/nr-dismisses-factual-errors/#comment-596306 http://web.mit.edu/globalchange/www/wheel.degC.html http://web.mit.edu/globalchange/www/wheel.degC.html

]]> By: JJ http://thinkprogress.org/2006/06/05/nr-dismisses-factual-errors/comment-page-1/#comment-596302 JJ Mon, 05 Jun 2006 20:50:55 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/06/05/nr-dismisses-factual-errors/#comment-596302 Your recommendation is do nothing. See #36. Your recommendation is do nothing. See #36.

]]> By: Randy http://thinkprogress.org/2006/06/05/nr-dismisses-factual-errors/comment-page-1/#comment-596296 Randy Mon, 05 Jun 2006 20:48:31 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/06/05/nr-dismisses-factual-errors/#comment-596296 Kyoto is DOA. Always has been, always will be. Why didn't your boy Clinton sign it? Kyoto is DOA. Always has been, always will be. Why didn’t your boy Clinton sign it?

]]> By: redneck hick http://thinkprogress.org/2006/06/05/nr-dismisses-factual-errors/comment-page-1/#comment-596290 redneck hick Mon, 05 Jun 2006 20:47:46 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/06/05/nr-dismisses-factual-errors/#comment-596290 junkscience -- a more unreliable source can hardly be found. "sunspots and flares appearing in cycles roughly 11 years long. But only in the last decade or so have these and other kinds of solar variations begun to be tied to climate shifts on Earth" This sounds believable to you? "Some experts contend that the majority of the century's warming occurred before 1940 and that most of the gas buildup occurred after that." Some experts? Who, exactly? More Spice Girls? He does have an interesting write-up of what the solar cycle is, but in no way does he tie it to climate change, except for that "some experts say" part. Of course, sun affecting climate change is a given in the first paragraph I cite here. junkscience — a more unreliable source can hardly be found.

“sunspots and flares appearing in cycles roughly 11 years long. But only in the last decade or so have these and other kinds of solar variations begun to be tied to climate shifts on Earth”

This sounds believable to you?

“Some experts contend that the majority of the century’s warming occurred before 1940 and that most of the gas buildup occurred after that.”

Some experts? Who, exactly? More Spice Girls?

He does have an interesting write-up of what the solar cycle is, but in no way does he tie it to climate change, except for that “some experts say” part. Of course, sun affecting climate change is a given in the first paragraph I cite here.

]]> By: redneck hick http://thinkprogress.org/2006/06/05/nr-dismisses-factual-errors/comment-page-1/#comment-596282 redneck hick Mon, 05 Jun 2006 20:41:35 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/06/05/nr-dismisses-factual-errors/#comment-596282 #40 I always wondered what happened to the Spice Girls. With their heavy research load, no wonder we haven't heard from them lately! #40 I always wondered what happened to the Spice Girls. With their heavy research load, no wonder we haven’t heard from them lately!

]]> By: JJ http://thinkprogress.org/2006/06/05/nr-dismisses-factual-errors/comment-page-1/#comment-596271 JJ Mon, 05 Jun 2006 20:37:49 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/06/05/nr-dismisses-factual-errors/#comment-596271 Dude, even Wikipedia has something on it. You should do some research before you post a comment: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oregon_Petition Dude, even Wikipedia has something on it. You should do some research before you post a comment:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oregon_Petition

]]> By: Randy http://thinkprogress.org/2006/06/05/nr-dismisses-factual-errors/comment-page-1/#comment-596264 Randy Mon, 05 Jun 2006 20:36:15 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/06/05/nr-dismisses-factual-errors/#comment-596264 #39 http://www.junkscience.com/news/sun.html #39

http://www.junkscience.com/news/sun.html

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