CEI Scholar: Gore Thinks Climate Change is Caused by ‘Widespread Sin,’ a Sign of ‘the Antichrist’
CEI Scholar: Gore Thinks Climate Change is Caused by ‘Widespread Sin,’ a Sign of ‘the Antichrist’
Ian Murray, senior fellow at the Exxon-backed Competitive Enterprise Institute, writes for the National Review on global warming issues. Today, he excerpts some promotional material from a horror movie that he says “mirrors Al Gore’s views” on global warming:
[G]lobal warming is caused by the widespread sin, immorality, and materialism of our current society. The looting and murders after these disasters struck are further evidence of the Antichrist’s coming. The Bible’s revelation predicts that it will be under these conditions that the mark of the Beast will come upon us.
Global warming skeptics can’t challenge Al Gore on the substance, so they just smear him personally. This is what is left of the “debate” about climate change.
Stand up against Murray’s smear tactics. Pledge to go see An Inconvenient Truth.
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157 Responses to “CEI Scholar: Gore Thinks Climate Change is Caused by ‘Widespread Sin,’ a Sign of ‘the Antichrist’”
under these conditions that the mark of the Beast will come upon us.
Little pansy flit should keep his fantasies to himself.
June 6th, 2006 at 3:14 pm.
the right term is CEI “scholar”
obfuscation of science really isn’t scholarship, under any definition
June 6th, 2006 at 3:17 pmThat would be the official RNC haircut Ian’s sporting there, along with their backwards approach to science.
June 6th, 2006 at 3:20 pmCurious words, coming from a guy with that face of altar boy…
June 6th, 2006 at 3:20 pmOver 35 million homes in Europe, and 1 million in the United States directly purchase from a green power supplier
come on guys you are behind the times in America
June 6th, 2006 at 3:21 pm“Global warming skeptics can’t challenge Al Gore on the substance, so they just smear him personally.”
No it’s just another distraction. Any moment now, one of the trolls will post a story about an abortion lawsuit or Katrina relief abuse, and change the subject.
June 6th, 2006 at 3:23 pm#6 Well, americans like doing their way. As the Amish people.
June 6th, 2006 at 3:24 pmCan you believe someone who looks like Karl Rove’s bot-toy? These people will hire anybody with an 11th grade education as their spokesman.
June 6th, 2006 at 3:24 pmMatthew says this mirror’s Al Gore’s views. He’s right. Gore claims global warming is a moral issue, so he’d probably agree with the statement, “global warming is caused by the widespread sin, immorality, and materialism of our current society
so by this logic:
My buddy John says Bush is an evil asshole, and he is right. So, our monstrous president will probably agree with the statement “Killing babies and drinking their blood adds years to my life.”
this can be fun!
June 6th, 2006 at 3:25 pmOver 35 million homes in Europe, and 1 million in the United States directly purchase from a green power supplier
come on guys you are behind the times in America
Look I switched to http://www.good-energy.co.uk a couple years ago the right wing nutz will never change but the others have no excuse change now its actually cheaper too , my house produces 0 co2 emitions per year
Is there any plumbers here that know have to knozzle up a cows arse to my gas central heating
Environmental Impact
The environmental impact of each fuel source is different.
Good Energy uses 100% renewable electricity. This will have generated zero grammes of carbon dioxide per kWh and zero grammes of high-level radio active waste.
Electricity generated from coal fired power stations will have generated 910 grammes of CO2 to produce 1kWh of electricity and natural gas will have produced 360 grammes of CO2 for each kWh.
It is stated that nuclear power produces zero grammes of CO2 but it will have produced 0.012 grammes of high-level radio active waste per kWh.
June 6th, 2006 at 3:25 pmTHAT’S the goober we’re fighting against??? Ah hah hahahaha!!! I can smell the pocket protector, the internet dating service, and the stench of WAY too many swirlies and noogies in both his past and future…..
Revenge of the Nerds, I guess.
June 6th, 2006 at 3:27 pmWell I’m just going to express my disagreement in the Comments at The Corner. Oh wait…
June 6th, 2006 at 3:29 pmThe beast is already with us already, in the form of CEI and Exxon.
June 6th, 2006 at 3:32 pmIan, should just speak to his friends about cleaning up their mess in Prince Edward Sound. And forget about the other nonsense.
The key is this idiot works for an exxon front company. Like we should take anything he has to say on global warming seriously….. ummmm yeah right.
June 6th, 2006 at 3:34 pmWhen they cannot dispute the facts, they make up smears and “swiftboat” people.
Another F-ing rightwing loser. From where do they get these pseudo-intellectual ponces?
June 6th, 2006 at 3:37 pm3 tonnes of CO2 emissions per house per year.
Electricity generated from coal fired power stations will have generated 910 grammes of CO2 to produce 1kWh of electricity and natural gas will have produced 360 grammes of CO2 for each kWh.
It is stated that nuclear power produces zero grammes of CO2 but it will have produced 0.012 grammes of high-level radio active waste per kWh.
COME ON AMERICA CHANGE YOUR SUPPLIER , I KNOW THE RIGHT WING NUTTERS WILL NOT UNDERSTAND ABOUT 3 TONNES PER YEAR times that by say 50 million households in America and that adds up thats 150 million tonnes in America alone ..NO WONDER YOU GUYS PRODUCE 30% of the worlds polution
June 6th, 2006 at 3:39 pmGore believes in Santa Claus, therfore his arguments on Global warming are logically refuted.
Makes sense to me.
BTW - I can’t breath.
June 6th, 2006 at 3:47 pmWell according to Fox News All-Star Fred Barnes, all meaningful political dialogue and policy decisions come from these think tanks because they are”independent” and not hijacked by the left like all of our esteemed universities.
I hate to judge a book by it’s cover but this guy looks like a child molester.
June 6th, 2006 at 3:47 pmTobey Tall,
FYI: Australia is the worst polluter.
Also, it’s damned hard to get anyone to do anything different here. It’s a horror show!
I live on Cape Cod, and there’s been a virtual war around here re: Wind Mill Project on Nantucket Sound.
It’s a WONDERFUL idea, except that the rich pr*cks on the ocean won’t have their pristeen views anymore. So they are fighting it tooth and nail. And they are winning, because they have the money.
This is what America has become. We are trying to fight the good fight, but the “elite”, and braindead Republicans are thwarting every forward step.
–So can I still come to your country? :)
June 6th, 2006 at 3:51 pmAnother closet-case they blackmailed into doing their bidding.
June 6th, 2006 at 3:55 pmCaption:
(From Ian’s personal ad)
“Be the first one to take this Stallion for a ride”
June 6th, 2006 at 3:56 pmIan, most whores at least try and look desireable. That Rovian appearance of yours just isn’t doing it for me.
June 6th, 2006 at 3:58 pmpristine!!!
June 6th, 2006 at 3:58 pmI KNEW that looked funny.
Sorry for the BAD spelling!
21/ FYI: Australia is the worst polluter.
6% of the worlds population live in america and produce 30% of CO2 emmitions
are you telling me Australia is worse ??? how and wheres the facts please ???
I read today an area of 312 sq miles covered in solar panels could produce all the worlds electricity needs.. cant find it now
June 6th, 2006 at 4:01 pmI bet Murray gets all the chicks…
June 6th, 2006 at 4:01 pmWhen I hear this kind of rhetorical spew comming from the lunatic right, It stuns me into a discombobulated silence for a moment. Its kind of like listening to a schizophrenic describe his day. I don’t even know where to start the deconstruction of thier argument because it is ludicrous on its face.
I am convinced, now more than ever, that this reaction is induced by design, in order to relegate the topic to the carnival of madness, from which there is no return. If I abridge the facts by supplanting its premise with an absurdity, the facts can be more easily dismissed as absurd by proxy.
June 6th, 2006 at 4:04 pm(raw story link )
read comments!
Comment by good guy
I don’t want to read your comments Santo.
June 6th, 2006 at 4:04 pmPlease quit linking them.
And get a clue, quit changing your name to get around being banned, then doing the same thing you got banned for.
Right-wingers non-acceptance of science, including their denial that global warming is happening, helps to promote the stereotype that they’re nothing by a bunch of ignorant hillbillies.
June 6th, 2006 at 4:05 pmHi Tobey,
Australia reference:
Tim Flannery, author of “The Weather Makers -The History and Future of Climate Change”
He was on Al Franken today talking about his book.
June 6th, 2006 at 4:06 pmI’m getting a copy tomorrow.
# 27. Per this chart, US is the worst polluter:
http://www.ucsusa.org/ global_warming/ science/ each-countrys-share-of-co2-emissions.html
Austrailia is second.
June 6th, 2006 at 4:08 pmhe looks and sounds like what we called a douche bag or weenie when we were growing up…
June 6th, 2006 at 4:09 pm(This is talking per capita. China is second in terms of raw output of CO2.)
June 6th, 2006 at 4:09 pmThanks trueblue
June 6th, 2006 at 4:10 pmLet’s just forget that every scientist agrees that globel warming is a recipe for disaster and just suppose that’s it’s a fifty-fifty proposition…I certainly wouldn’t be willing to bet my children’s future and their children’s future on a coin flip…Looks like so many of these repuglican’s though, are more than willing to “roll the dice’ for 40 peices of silver..
June 6th, 2006 at 4:10 pmThe spew he is spewing is that of Falwell and Roberston.
I find it odd that what whom the Conservatives, the Neo-Con ones, called the ’swamp fever’, the Wackos, are now saying that Gore is an Evangelical Falwellian?
Hmm. So the Neo-Cons are dropping the conservative vote, and trying now to appease to the majority?
It won’t work.
June 6th, 2006 at 4:12 pmHey! We used to pull that guy’s pants down for a laugh!
June 6th, 2006 at 4:14 pmOnce upon a time this country got most of its promising, eager-to-fight liars and thieves from urban pools of ‘Dead End Kids;’ now they come from Young Republican cells whose guidance and ambition to exploit the fire-free homefront come from the moral axis of Boesky, Milken and Bush.
June 6th, 2006 at 4:15 pmDoncha all worry, the cons are freaking because the Movie is getting mainstream acceptance.
June 6th, 2006 at 4:15 pmGlobal warming skeptics can’t challenge Al Gore on the substance…
That’s for sure. Instead, they send suet-faced sycophants like Iain Murray out to do the smearing with the kind of contrived, fantastical statements you’d expect to find in a tabloid. “Senior Fellow” indeed. His photo looks like it was taken by the CEI Morality Police just after they caught him accessing forbidden websites on his office computer.
June 6th, 2006 at 4:17 pmwayne lies!!!!!!!! he’s s professional liar!!!!!!! specialized in blog psy op!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!navy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Comment by good guy
No Santo, you are the one that is not honest.
And your posting style ( along with it not making any sense ) shows exactly who you are. Are you really that dense?
It would be funny, if you were not sucha sad disturbed person, please seek professional help
Shoo…..
June 6th, 2006 at 4:18 pmI saw an article today saying australia has 40% of the planets Uranium stocks and yet they only have 1 nuclear power station so the rest of the emmisions must be from coal and Gas generating electricity…..probably Coal as its worse
34/ but these figures are per emmsions per head, Aussie only has a small population also say 15 million or something , its quite low still compared to the total Emmisions of the US
June 6th, 2006 at 4:22 pmThe spew he is spewing is that of Falwell and Roberston.
I find it odd that what whom the Conservatives, the Neo-Con ones, called the ’swamp fever’, the Wackos, are now saying that Gore is an Evangelical Falwellian?
Hmm. So the Neo-Cons are dropping the conservative vote, and trying now to appease to the majority?
It won’t work.
Comment by Flush Dimbulb
Once again I suggest we take back Jesus… that is the only crutch they got. Take that away and they are just nazis through and through. The nazis talked christianity also. All their evil was hidden behind their “good white christianity” … They want to call us GODLESS? well they are ANTI-JESUS … their actions make that clear and they have been caught on tape being antiJesus. For everytime they say to murder someone flash a picture of Jesus and then WWJD? For everytime they talk about welfare give aways to the poor flash a picture of Jesus and then WWJD? They do not represent wholesome family values…. where was the family values in the pictures of the dead iraqi families? where was the family values when a priest had his hands down some childs pants? Where were the family values when Pat Robertson called for the assasination of Chavez? Where was the family values right after Katrina? The family Jesus talked about wasnt between a man and a woman… it was between all humans with all others.
Their claim to be the protectors of good needs to be questioned. Their actions will NOT stand up to scrutiny.
June 6th, 2006 at 4:23 pmYeah - you know ol’ Ian here was stuffed in a locker when he was a little kid. Along with Karl Rove and Hugh Hewitt.
June 6th, 2006 at 4:23 pm[G]lobal warming is caused by the widespread sin, immorality, and materialism of our current society.
I know all the sinning I do really warms me up. Sweaty…
June 6th, 2006 at 4:24 pmI agree with the materialism part.
June 6th, 2006 at 4:26 pmAlso in Australia flying is cheap this adds loads to CO2 emmision values
Flying round the world is half a tonne per person
Car journeys even in an eccomical new car is 0.4 KG of CO2 per 6 miles
June 6th, 2006 at 4:27 pm#52 - I agree with the materialism part.
Comment by krazny
Me too, actually, but what about all the sinning!?
June 6th, 2006 at 4:32 pmaustralia is where we dumped our crimals bit like alcatraz but bigger
June 6th, 2006 at 4:34 pmQ:what do you call an Australian with an IQ of 100
A: A village
I know all the sinning I do really warms me up. Sweaty…
Comment by Zookeeper
ok that one was worth one coffee splat on my monitor. haha
June 6th, 2006 at 4:34 pmlmao
Hey, no wonder the RW is rejoicing in this wonderful world of ours. The Rapture can’t be long off. I get dibs on their money; they won’t need it where they’re going….
Cheers,
June 6th, 2006 at 4:36 pm#52 - I agree with the materialism part.
Comment by krazny
Me too, actually, but what about all the sinning!?
Comment by Zookeeper — June 6, 2006 @ 4:32 pm
Greed is considered one of the seven deadly sins. It does tie in with materailism.
June 6th, 2006 at 4:36 pmSant… oops, “Good Guy”
A good guy wouldn’t say the things that you say.
You need serious pyschiatric help.
Hospitalization.
TP, please, clean up this bile.
June 6th, 2006 at 4:37 pmAlmost every Murray post period on NRO is a Gore smear. I’m serious. He’s obsessed.
June 6th, 2006 at 4:42 pmGreed is considered one of the seven deadly sins. It does tie in with materailism.
Comment by krazny
OK. totally OT, but really funny:
I have a greeting card with a drawing of two sloths, each on their own tree, facing each other.
One is saying to the other:
“Really? I was hoping we were lust.”
(rimshot!)
June 6th, 2006 at 4:43 pm#60 - TP, please, clean up this bile.
Comment by trueblue
I keep thinking that if we ignore its comments, it will think it’s blocked and will give up. Probably wishful thinking on my part…
June 6th, 2006 at 4:45 pmViewpoint of Germany wow they are son in front
German nuclear phase-out
Outgoing German environment minister Jurgen Trittin played a key role in the country’s decision to shut down all its nuclear reactors by 2020.
Nuclear power is not needed to achieve this. Quite the contrary: technically speaking, this base-load relic of the past is standing in the way of flexible and intelligent electricity production.
In contrast to Germany, Finland has commissioned Europe’s first new reactor in a decade. MP Mikko Elo supports the decision.
Viewpoint: Finland’s new reactor
The safety risks associated with nuclear power have in no way decreased in recent years - in particular with regard to the threat of terrorism, they have in fact increased dramatically.
And as far as the long-term management of radioactive wastes is concerned, we are fundamentally no wiser than we were 30 years ago.
The use of nuclear power is and will remain a global risk, especially for future generations.
Who can today presume to say, or even begin to imagine, what the world will be like in 24,000 years?
This is the half-life period of plutonium-239, which is generated in huge volumes during nuclear fission.
However, what we do know today is that 24,000 years ago Olkiluoto [where Finland is building a new reactor], for example, was buried under around 3,000m of ice.
June 6th, 2006 at 4:48 pm#63 - Good one, trueblue! What do you think of our little Ian? His face looks as soft as his hair, which is probably as soft as his tummy. I’m a little obsessed myself…if the boy loses his virginity…hell will freeze over…it’s the end of global warming!!
June 6th, 2006 at 4:49 pmIan Murray can just eat my shorts.
I think what it boils down to is that the Republicans are pissed that a Democrat is leading the charge against global warming. They didn’t take action first, so they’ve got to trash the idea and anyone that supports it.
As for man’s effect on our environment, consider:
(1) Heat islands above Atlanta alter weather above city; cause is due to increased construction, number of autos, and destruction of trees. Increased thunderstorm activity seen.
More: http://science.nasa.gov/ newhome/ headlines/ essd26apr99_1.htm
(2) Contrails from jets form clouds; will be significant climate factor by the year 2050.
More: http://www.sciencedaily.com/ releases/ 1999/ 06/ 990624080829.htm
June 6th, 2006 at 4:51 pmI keep thinking that if we ignore its comments, it will think it’s blocked and will give up. Probably wishful thinking on my part…
Comment by Zookeeper
The problem is it starts attacking people at random, posting psycotic crap over and over again, untill it ruins the threads. Just like it has totally ruined Raw story to the point I don’t read the comments there any longer.
It doesn’t matter if you respond or not, see where it is attacking Toby in this thread, for no reason at all, for example.
June 6th, 2006 at 4:52 pm#72 - I know, Wayne, I was just wishing. Tobey seems to be taking it well, though. Sorry, Tobey…
June 6th, 2006 at 4:55 pm#70
And although I don’t have time to research it right now, I seem to recall years ago seeing a program on TV indicating that some clouds that form from contrails eventually produce thunderstorms.
June 6th, 2006 at 4:55 pm#21 Australia the most polluting country??? Yeah, those kangaroos, koalas and rugby players are doing more than any factory in US. You got that wrong.
June 6th, 2006 at 5:01 pm# 51 jejejeje
June 6th, 2006 at 5:03 pm#77,
Got it form an author of a book who was on Al Franken this afternoon.
Tim Flannery (an Austalian, BTW)
“The Weather Makers - the History and Future of Climate Change.”
Just going by what he said.
June 6th, 2006 at 5:05 pmboy, my fingers are NOT keeping up with me today, sorry…
June 6th, 2006 at 5:06 pmThe things we have to read…
June 6th, 2006 at 5:07 pm#80. Dont know it. Sorry. Probably it is right, but by common sense what would you think?
June 6th, 2006 at 5:09 pmJuan,
I was surprised, too!
It was like a “Scooby-Doo” moment…
“Rrrrrugh?” *
(*thanks, Stephanie Miller!)
June 6th, 2006 at 5:12 pmwhat im saying in this thread is America get your act together and change your suppliers of electricity to a greener source its actually cheaper all it takes is a few to change supplier and demand will have to follow
Look at that beautifully constructed criticism post 68# the German mentality of nuclear power
Also post 10# 35 million Europeans have green supplies compared to 1 million americans
its seems to me as Europe is overtaking the once great America in all Aspects of Technology we are becoming the new worlds powerhouse especially when The great Chavez changes to Petrol euros
we have BMW, Porche, Ferrari you have Ford
we have almost 0 waiting lists in hospitals you have people dying cause of goverment neglect , your a joke
You have for too much expenditure on weapons and space and not enough on anything worthwhile for the people except super wheat
I hope America changes soon before it is left behind forever stuck in its neantherdal ways
June 6th, 2006 at 5:12 pmThis guy looks like a republican and he sounds like a republican spin doctor not a scholar.
Whoooo, who is off the deep end her CEI or Gore - I think CEI.
And why is this group called the Competitive Enterprise Institute? Because that is what spin doctors and the republican (followship party) does - mislead the uniformed and the easily mislead.
June 6th, 2006 at 5:13 pm# 85 What do I have to stop? Am I posting too much?
June 6th, 2006 at 5:14 pmshall i stop my constructive criticism - the world would be a better place if we listened to AVILHEAD
Goodnight Liberal minded Americans,
June 6th, 2006 at 5:19 pmand I hope the bed bugs keep the rest of you up all night
#87, Tobey,
I agree that Europe IS taking over the US.
One look at our education system shows you; we are dumbing down!
Great teachers like Unbelievable are pretty much being forced out for the mediocre minions. It’s disgusting!
Plus we have this awful, complacent attitude.
I drive a Toyota Corolla. Why? Because it’s DEPENDABLE! I’d NEVER buy a Ford. Plus, my Corolla was actually built here in the US.
Anyway, maybe it’s time for us to NOT be #1.
Maybe a little humility will do us good.
–Now can I please come to your country, minus the Haggis?! :)
June 6th, 2006 at 5:22 pmI can see and hear the new CEI commercial now…
[Opening shot of blue sky over Montana. 2 jets streak by in the distance.]
Narrator:
“It’s true that contrails (short for condensation trails) from jet aircraft produce clouds. But clouds are good.”
[Cut to shot of log cabin in Vermont woods in late December. Time: 20 minutes after sunrise. Smoke rising from chimney of woodburning fireplace]
Narrator:
“In the winter, moisture-laden clouds produce the pretty snowfalls we have on Christmas day. They also hold in warmth from the sun to make our winter nights a bit less frigid.”
[Cut to young couple walking on a lonely beach on the California coast]
Narrator:
“In the summer they shield us from the hot sun and give us refreshing, cool rains.
But the most important part?”
[Cut to trees in forest. Camera slowly panning up to show trees reaching into a sun-filled sky]
Narrator:
“Like the increased levels of carbon dioxide that we enjoy, water produced from clouds gives us life.”
[Cut to black screen. Words by narrator appear on screen as they are read]
“Life. Brought to you by water and carbon dioxide.”
June 6th, 2006 at 5:23 pmshall i stop my constructive criticism - the world would be a better place if we listened to AVILHEAD
Goodnight Liberal minded Americans,
and I hope the bed bugs keep the rest of you up all night
Comment by Tobey Tall
NO!
June 6th, 2006 at 5:26 pmNever stop!
We like hearing from you.
You make a lot of good points.
Good night, Tobey.
# 24 Tobey Tall.
June 6th, 2006 at 5:27 pmLike 300 W/m² average solar irradiance strikes the surface of the Earth. Multiply that times a 10% efficiency of Solar Photovoltaic cells, times the seconds in a year and you got the electricity produced in a year per square meter in (Joules/m²) (1) (use International System, please) Find the electricity consumed in the world in a year (2) (in Joules or Terajoules, easier). Then the area you need to feed the world with PV is the ratio of (1)/(2) in square meters. Done.
Holy Crap…. literally
June 6th, 2006 at 5:27 pm#26
That was eloquent. Thank you.
June 6th, 2006 at 5:31 pm#77 - WC, I think you’ve found your calling. I can see it now…
#78 - I too hope to keep hearing from Tobey.
#81 - Is that what you were doing? I thought you’d lost your mind, Salma!
#83 - I agree with our little Ian and you that our materialism is a great contributor to global warming, but I love it that Ian throws in the sin, immorality, Antichrist and Beast bits. Juicy stuff…
June 6th, 2006 at 5:40 pmIan Murray is unhinged. Well, he writes for the National Review, so that’s sort of redundant.
But, if he’s not careful, he might scare the extreme right-wing biblethumpers into becoming environmentalists.
June 6th, 2006 at 5:44 pmI think Zoo is right, we can’t say anything to get her to stop the insanity, so just better to step over her posts. She clearly wants positive attention only…
Comment by unbelievable
Yeah I shouldn’t respond to it, but its kinda like the whack-a-mole game, can’t resist swinging the mallet. =)
June 6th, 2006 at 5:53 pmWayne,
Know what you mean. Last night, I whacked and whacked and it didn’t stop… So I’ve come to the conclusion that if we ignore it and TP deletes its posts - it’ll eventually go away. Like wwallace.
June 6th, 2006 at 5:56 pm#87 - Maybe he’s hoping this headline will lead to that?
Comment by unbelievable
We’re on the same wave length, Salma! See my post at #57.
June 6th, 2006 at 6:02 pmThink we should take one for the team? *gag* Nevermind…
#49 - Wayne, I’m here to serve. ;)
June 6th, 2006 at 6:03 pmThink we should take one for the team? *gag* Nevermind…
Comment by Zookeeper — June 6, 2006 @ 6:02 pm
Oh god no, let be a virgin for the rest of his life, besides do you really want him to breed?
June 6th, 2006 at 6:06 pm#92 - do you really want him to breed?
Comment by krazny
I’m a slutty liberal, and I know how to prevent him from breeding. ;)
June 6th, 2006 at 6:11 pmthe Beast is here, and his mark is “W”
all the evil in the world as nothing to do with imaginary devils and everything to do with bad people… I see we kick them off the planet…
http://blogdebogs.blogspot.com/ 2006/ 06/ disturbing-revelations-for-060606.html
June 6th, 2006 at 6:25 pmSmearing Gore (again)…
As noted earlier, anti-global warming activists cannot debate the issue on the facts (all the facts are against them). Instead, they lie, smear, and attack anyone who disagrees with their bought-and-paid-for beliefs. So we have Ian Murray of the Nation…
June 6th, 2006 at 6:28 pmHow ironic that the CEI makes this statement of June 6, 2006 (6/6/6).
For evangelical leaders close to President Bush such as Texas Pastor John Hagee, 666 has another important meaning for the future of the United States. 666 is the number to be borne by the Anti-Christ in the coming battle of Armageddon, which if Hagee has his way, will fought against Iran.
For the details, see:
June 6th, 2006 at 6:34 pm“666: Armageddon, Iran and Bush Foreign Policy.”
#93
I’m a slutty liberal, and I know how to prevent him from breeding. ;)
Comment by Zookeeper
Close one, had already finished my coffee, but still laughing so that it’s hard to breathe.
whew!!!
Your on a roll today Zoo =)
June 6th, 2006 at 6:38 pm#97 - Wayne, I just can’t help it! This boy, Ian, just brings out the nasty in me. If I thought I could get any traction on his well-scrubbed pink skin…
June 6th, 2006 at 6:46 pmThink we should take one for the team? *gag* Nevermind…
Comment by Zookeeper — June 6, 2006 @ 6:02 pm
I’m glad Wayne is amused - you owe me more brillo pads… :D
June 6th, 2006 at 6:47 pmWhoa, Zookeeper, am I to understand that you’re volunteering to, hm, de-flower this delicate little innocent for the sake of the planet? I’m impressed!
Tobey, I agree with the others, keep us on our toes, please.
Trueblue, love the off-topic greeting card (especially ’cause I like sloths - the animals, not people who are slothful!)
Since I apparently missed so much of this thread, I’m a tad confused when everyone’s referencing comments that got completely deleted. TP, it works much better when you delete the comment, but not the comment number.
See y’all tomorrow!
June 6th, 2006 at 6:52 pm#100 - Whoa, Zookeeper, am I to understand that you’re volunteering to, hm, de-flower this delicate little innocent for the sake of the planet? I’m impressed!
Comment by Jane E. Schneider
I’m experiencing an obsessive compulsion. I’m sure if I just wait a while it will pass. I’m hoping it will pass…my budget for brillo pads is getting low.
June 6th, 2006 at 6:55 pm#102: YUCK! I hope for your sake it passes, too! ‘Bye!
June 6th, 2006 at 7:02 pmLOL no worries Zoo, I will send you a gross of brillo pads.
=)
June 6th, 2006 at 7:04 pmIf I thought I could get any traction on his well-scrubbed pink skin…
Comment by Zookeeper — June 6, 2006 @ 6:46 pm
oh man that’s gross - you can’t get traction on anything well lubrucated with oil.
June 6th, 2006 at 7:05 pmI didn’t see the movie, but I suspect that some of Gore’s “substance” is the old line that CO2 increases have caused Global Warming. However, a quick look at global temp charts show a cooling period fro 1940-1975, which is incompatible with the CO2=warming claim.
June 6th, 2006 at 7:16 pm#106 Only if you believe that CO2 is the only factor in global climate. Scientific papers have addressed the many factors, of which man-made CO2 is rapidly becoming dominant. Why do Republicans insist on oversimplifying everything? From Bush’s third grade foreign policy to the we don’t know and can’t do anything about it anyway attitude on pollution.
June 6th, 2006 at 7:31 pmin honor of 6-6-06, thom hartman (filling in for sam tonight on majority report radio/ air america rado) just talked about this fun filled fact:
1. google “upside down star†(in quotes) - find out what it is
then
2. go to gop.com en espanol page… scroll down a bit… check out the elephant logo (that page has the largest one, the only significance of going to that page)
GASP!!!
June 6th, 2006 at 7:35 pmI didn’t see the movie, but I suspect that some of Gore’s “substance†is the old line that CO2 increases have caused Global Warming. However, a quick look at global temp charts show a cooling period fro 1940-1975, which is incompatible with the CO2=warming claim.
Comment by nanny_govt_sucks
You haven’t seen the movie, so how can you critique it?
Also show me a valid link from a competent study that supports your theory that global warming does not exhist. Support your claim.
June 6th, 2006 at 7:56 pm#101 Brittish Gary. See the “average” word after the 300 W/m²?
June 6th, 2006 at 7:57 pmOh, for the love of all that’s sacred…you have GOTTA be kidding me. This guy’s trying to equate Gore’s concerns over global warming with apocolyptic hysteria? Give me a freakin’ break! And if we must discuss “the Mark of the Beast…[coming] upon us” — what this schmendrik conveniently neglects to mention is that if or when that prediction comes to pass, it will more than likely be those whom Murray currently supports who will be inflicting it on us in the guise of security. After all, if memory serves, the prophecy does suggest that the Beast will come disguised as a good man and not an evil one — and that many people who believe themselves to be good Christians will be led astray because they will believe him to be the returned Christ or at least a fellow believer in Christ.
June 6th, 2006 at 8:01 pmJane, unbelievable, krazny, and British Gary,
Thanks for your support in this difficult time. I have resolved to allow our sweet Ian to remain a virgin — for now. If TP puts up his picture again, I cannot be responsible for myself. :-D
Note to self: settle, settle…
June 6th, 2006 at 8:06 pm#112—-Note to self: settle, settle…
Comment by Zookeeper
Cold showers sometimes work well =)
June 6th, 2006 at 8:25 pm#113 - Only if I have someone to keep me warm…
Stop doing that, Wayne! I’m in a delicate state. :P
June 6th, 2006 at 8:27 pmPoint: global warming is caused by human actions, due to our collective shortsightedness, greed, laziness, etc.
Counterpoint: the laxity of judgement, the consumerist disdain for other concerns, can be decried in purely logical, humanistic terms. A rigorous Proof of the maxim, “don’t shit where you eat,” if you will; not a shrill doomsday cult.
But you have to admit, linking “the plot of a horror movie” to “the politics of Gore” is witty, in a macabre, and, I’m sure, a wholly unintended way.
June 6th, 2006 at 10:35 pmyeah, so was I. I wondered what motivates someone to behave like that……..then I thought maybe it was inhaling/injecting something illegal.
Mental deficiencies I think. Also a serious lack of anger management.
She probably needs more drugs rather than less :)
I think the Godidiot has nothing better to do or to say.
Sybil the Godidiot… Yep, she doesn’t like the Atheism. Or, apparently, intellect and coherency. Takes all kinds I suppose.
Even when I ignored it - it just kept going. I’ve never taken drugs or seen anyone who has but I seriously wonder if it was on ’speed’?
Comment by British Gary — June 6, 2006 @ 6:55 pm
It was up to 360 posts when I bailed. And she was going ten for everyone anyone else posted. I think it was adrenalin - and a lack of self-control.
Unfortunately, in a public forum, you’re subject to all kinds. And unffrotunately, you don’t have to be a rocket scientist to know how to type…
There will be others. Just the nature of the beast I suppose… literally… Happy 666 ;)
June 6th, 2006 at 10:49 pmThat guy is awfully soft and squishy, I guess we don’t have to ask why he isn’t over in Iraq. Hint: Don’t ask.
June 6th, 2006 at 10:50 pmOk… enough already! I have Congestive Heart Failure, and my ticker gets all worked up when I laugh to hard. I start coughing and choking and gasping for air. I love it, but it just might kill me !!! But it was very thoughtful of this pink-cheeked cherub to share with us the REAL cause of global warming. Drat! Why is sin so much fun? Sigh…
June 6th, 2006 at 10:50 pmNote to self: settle, settle…
Comment by Zookeeper — June 6, 2006 @ 8:06 pm
You just know he’s one of those guys who kisses like it’s a contest of speed… and spit… ugh…
It’s a tough decision - but I’ll let you have him. But I get the next paranoid right-wing 40-year-old virgin, okay?
June 6th, 2006 at 11:04 pmWhat a dreamboat NOT that guy is in the pic > lol. Where do they dig up these pansy ass guys anyways?
June 6th, 2006 at 11:36 pmJay Randal = pansy ass
June 7th, 2006 at 12:28 am[…] The crap coming out of CEI and NRO trying to explain away the reality of Global warming is almost as hilarious, bizarre and unbelievable as their recent list of the Top 50 Conservative Rock Songs. Conservatives are insane. […]
June 7th, 2006 at 12:50 amSorry post 121 > if you think that nerd in the pic is any gal’s hunk, then you need therapy?! Stop defending Bush and GOP skanks on here fool!
June 7th, 2006 at 1:46 amThese guys are so interested in proving their Bible right, that they are actually willing, nay, eager to destroy the world to do it.
June 7th, 2006 at 7:01 amThese guys are so interested in proving their Bible right, that they are actually willing, nay, eager to destroy the world to do it.
Comment by Bruce Gorton — June 7, 2006 @ 7:01 am
Which is pretty much the outcome of that entire Judeo-Islamic-Christian tree anyway :). Such violent people really. About now it would be nice if they were removed from the planet and left the rest of us here… Would certainly be a paradise here without them :).
June 7th, 2006 at 8:10 am#125
Which is pretty much the outcome of that entire Judeo-Islamic-Christian tree anyway :). Such violent people really. About now it would be nice if they were removed from the planet and left the rest of us here… Would certainly be a paradise here without them :).
Comment by unbelievable — June 7, 2006 @ 8:10 am
Interseting statement… You know there’s this whole rapture thing mentioned in the Bible. When that occurs, you’ll at least be rid of the Christians. Perhaps then you can form a one world government and outlaw the practice of any remaining religions.
June 7th, 2006 at 8:27 amAntagonist - you should change your name to Absolutist. Because it would fit better. You take any shade of grey - no matter how close to center it is and call it either ‘black’ or ‘white’ and then use it as a soap box to criticize something neither said nor intended… Especially when said in jest.
The Bible calls the Jews the ‘chosen people’… that means they’ll go as well.
June 7th, 2006 at 8:44 amUnbelievable—you should change your name to Denial, as your post-modern thought processes cuase you to deny all absolutes.
The Bible clearly teaches that there’s more to Israel than being a Jew—meaning that the “chosen people” as you so call them, are both Jews and Gentiles, but it’s not every Jew and every Gentile. In the Old Testament, the literal nation of Israel was God’s chosen people, but since Jesus’ resurection, Israel is symbolic of in terms of God’s chosen—hence the apostles teaching in the New Testament that not all of Israel is Israel.
In summary, you’ll still have some Jews remaining after the rapture, as well as many who thought they were Christians, and scores of other religions left behind. You’ll still need to outlaw religion in order to have your paradise :)
June 7th, 2006 at 9:17 amAntagonist - The only one in denial is you and people like you who buy into that fairytale nonsense of invisible idols and happily-ever-(boring)-after, and believe that there are absolutes in the human realm (perhaps in the universe - but they are larger than we are and therefore we are only capable of a human’s perspective - which is limited). Very few things are absolute. Most things are a shade of grey. When you get that about life - it goes so much more smoothly.
Well, no 666 catastrophe yesterday. You doom and gloomers can go back to being Jesus hypocrites… I however, am off to the new Aquarium. Later.
June 7th, 2006 at 9:29 amUnbelievable,
Man’s ability to decieve himself is such that he cannot see that he is lost. Unless God intervenes, you’ll never recognize that you’re in that condition. I pray that He opens your eyes, and I hope you’re filled with the wonder of God’s creation at the aquarium.
June 7th, 2006 at 9:42 am#119 - But I get the next paranoid right-wing 40-year-old virgin, okay?
Comment by unbelievable
Deal. Careful what you wish for!
June 7th, 2006 at 10:35 amHe sounds a lot like an Islamist extremist to me.
June 7th, 2006 at 10:54 amHe sounds a lot like an Islamist extremist to me.
Comment by Suspiciousmind
You know, that would only help to make our little Ian more interesting.
June 7th, 2006 at 11:51 amBush.
Cheney.
Enron.
Halliburton.
Abramoff.
DeLay.
Cunningham.
Debold.
I don’t know. Sounds about right to me.
June 7th, 2006 at 12:14 pmunbelievable:
I’m still out here and nothing you did or said got rid of me.
June 7th, 2006 at 12:16 pmFortunately I don’t have your sad reality of too much time on my hands and blogging all day,everyday.
You must understand,I have other things to do-I wish you did too.
So much for your little victory over Denny.
My Gaydar is off the chart.
Why is my gaydar even on? Oh that’s right, Inhofe and Frist.
June 7th, 2006 at 12:55 pm# 130
Comment by Antagonist
Wow…I am not filled by anyone´s wonder!
June 7th, 2006 at 2:27 pm#130 - Wow. That’s the most stupid thing I’ve ever read.
June 7th, 2006 at 5:33 pmBUSH IS THE ANTICHRIST!!!!!
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#5 I know just because America has the richest people and most powerful military doesn’t necessarily make America the best country to live in.
June 7th, 2006 at 7:21 pmI pray that He opens your eyes, and I hope you’re filled with the wonder of God’s creation at the aquarium.
Comment by Antagonist — June 7, 2006 @ 9:42 am
My eyes were opened even wider to the reality of EVOLUTION. Its fingerprints are everywhere - not one sign of ‘intelligent’ design.
There was this amazing display of jellyfish. A projected image on an adjacent wall said “Jellyfish are 97% water. They have no eyes, no heart and no brain - but they do have a basic nervous system. Not a damn thing intelligent about that. The list goes on, but I won’t.
Oh, here’s another sign of just no intelligence - they had to post that you could not bring, into the aquarium, guns, knives, matches, or - fishing poles! I’m still LMAO over that one… You actually have to repeatedly tell people that they cannot come in and fish!
There is no god. My life is far happier - and more moral in knowing that. Probably why there are about 15% of Americans who are not religious, but less than 1% of people in prison are not religious. Proportionately more of your side in jail than mine…
June 7th, 2006 at 9:00 pmSo much for your little victory over Denny.
Comment by Denny — June 7, 2006 @ 12:16 pm
Liar. You wrote this:
Now leave me alone.
June 7th, 2006 at 9:03 pmComment by Denny — May 31, 2006 @ 2:35 am
Does anyone REALLY believe that climate change is not a normal part of the earth’s natural evolution????
June 7th, 2006 at 10:56 pmDoes anyone REALLY believe that climate change is not a normal part of the earth’s natural evolution????
Comment by Exley — June 7, 2006 @ 10:56 pm
That’s not the point. The point is that we have exaserbated ( http://www.dictionary.com ) the process and the ramifications of our irresponsible actions are upsetting the normal balance, and creating ecological nightmares.
You don;t getthe difference do you? That’s okay. Not everyone is smart enough. Just respect those of us who are. We’re trying to save your ignorant ass in the process… Just appreciate that and quit criticizing the people who demand that the bully stop stealing your lunch money…
June 7th, 2006 at 11:03 pm“Just appreciate that and quit criticizing the people who demand that the bully stop stealing your lunch money… ”
If anyone can explain what “Unbelievable’s” rant is supposed to mean, please do so.
June 7th, 2006 at 11:19 pm#146 Exley:
Dude,save your breath with that unbelievable woman.
That spinster is wack;you’ll find out.
Now to unbelievable,I meant ‘leave me alone’and that includes you invoking my name all the time.What’s wrong,you miss me or something?Don’t like being ignored?
June 8th, 2006 at 1:17 amYou know that you didn’t defeat me,you can’t.I’m out here and lovin’every minute of it.
Now I’ll wait for your name calling to begin.
If anyone can explain what “Unbelievable’s†rant is supposed to mean, please do so.
Comment by Exley — June 7, 2006 @ 11:19 pm
Ah, an ad hominem attack when you can’t argue the facts… We know that trick and see through it.
I suggest you do some resaerch before you open your mouth next time. One democrat with his hand in the cookie jars doesn’t erase the multiude of Repugs with theirs…
June 8th, 2006 at 9:26 amNow I’ll wait for your name calling to begin.
Comment by Denny — June 8, 2006 @ 1:17 am
Hold your breath while you wait…
You’re the one who follows me around, not the other way around as your demented mind perverts reality time and time again. I don’t reference you - you’re a pathetic joke.
If you don’t like me so much, then why do you keep talking to me? I’ll tell you why - you have nothing of value to say. Only attacks on people who you do. Pathetic.
June 8th, 2006 at 9:29 am[…] More twaddle from the nutcase side of the global warming debate: “[G]lobal warming is caused by the widespread sin, immorality, and materialism of our current society. The looting and murders after these disasters struck are further evidence of the Antichrist’s coming. The Bible’s revelation predicts that it will be under these conditions that the mark of the Beast will come upon us.” – Ian Murray, senior fellow at the Exxon-backed Competitive Enterprise Institute and the conservative National Review’s ‘expert’ on global warming issues, as quoted by Think Progress, June 6, 2006. […]
June 8th, 2006 at 10:27 amAgain with the childish name calling.
June 8th, 2006 at 11:50 amIf you don’t want Denny talking to you,then stop telling you’re small cult following that you beat him down with a rubber mallet.
Denny would like to ignore you,but you keep calling him out.
Forget Denny.Quit Denny;PLEASE.
Denny,
You started harrassing me. Not the other way around. You stop being an ass, then I’ll stop making fun of you. Clear enough?
And talking about yourself in the third person is creepy. You’re already creepy enough…
June 8th, 2006 at 12:01 pmDenny is a third person,he told you that a while back.
June 8th, 2006 at 12:38 pmNow it seems that Denny attacked you first,but remember,Denny was created for you after you attacked another ‘person’without provocation.That ‘person’ barely knew you existed on this web-site;much less ever mentioned you.
Denny would like to have peace,but you have to stop stepping on him.
You need to focus your energy on rolling in the mud with S.G..She’s on the first thread now,and it sound like you’re in her sights.
This is a political blog where people debate. If you cannot handle someone correcting your mistakes, then do some research before you post.
June 8th, 2006 at 1:51 pmNow that new Exxon Mobil CEO Rex Tillerson has taken over from hardliner Lee Raymond, the oil company has been trying to change its image to a kinder, gentler outfit, one that’s prepared to acknowledge there is such a thing as climate change. But after shrugging off environmentalists at his first annual meeting, and refusing to discuss global warming with pension funds, Tillerson has shown that it’s the same Exxon Mobil. In contrast with the rest of corporate America which is now worried about global warming. Read all about it at:
June 8th, 2006 at 2:03 pmhttp://www.soxfirst.com/ 50226711/ exxon_mobil_no_switch_on_climate_change.php
This was a personal attack by you.
June 8th, 2006 at 2:20 pmNo, it’s the truth. Sometimes the truth is negative.
June 8th, 2006 at 2:56 pmMaybe so;but I was just trying to explain the genesis of Denny.
Is your opinion always truth?
June 8th, 2006 at 4:33 pmThe genesis of Denny? This just gets more and more bizarre.
Do you not realize that this is a place where people debate issues? If you are too sensitive to hear an opposing view, then find a place more sugar-coated. It gets heated around here…
You have no basis for being self-righteous, and then expecting sympathy or pity or whatever it is you want. As the adage goes - if you want to be loved, then be lovable. And in this case - if you want to be ignored - then ignore. But that’s not what you did. And as much as you say it’s what you want - it’s not what your actions are saying now.
June 8th, 2006 at 6:04 pm#146 This is a political blog where people debate. I’ve just read the who thread a frankly there is no thread and not a whole lot of political debate. The whole thing just reads like a bunch a first year uni students bitching about eachother and trying to show eachother who has read the latest headlines and the most recent topselling book, I am just waiting for one of you to start drawing correlations between the orginal subject under discussion and the Da Vinci code or Harry Potter! Its a real shame that any intellectual or political discussion got lost in all the individual and factionalised posturing.
June 8th, 2006 at 8:39 pmIts a real shame that any intellectual or political discussion got lost in all the individual and factionalised posturing.
Comment by Dreda — June 8, 2006 @ 8:39 pm
One thread does not represent the entire site.
And instead of doing exactly what you just criticized everyone else for doing - why don’t you offer some dazzling commentary? Or can you?
June 8th, 2006 at 10:32 pm# 151 unbelievable:Good point.
# 152 Dreda: What unbelievable said in 153.
June 9th, 2006 at 1:24 am*** You guys sound like a bunch of chicken littlies telling the farmer the sky is falling…
Nature class 101, you should have been taught this in the first grade, but I will educate you non the less; You breathe out CO2… Trees breathe it in and produce oxygen… The circle of life, nature always provides a balance… Car combustion, be it Corn alcohol or oil based gasoline, both produce CO2… Switching to GREEN fuel will not stop this, actually it is 10 percent less efficient so it would POLLUTE(as you do every time you take a breath) more… So I say all you tree hugging nature nazis hold your breath… Sorry couldn’t resist… It would however lessen our dependants on foreign oil so I am for it…
The earths temp has always been changing and will always do so… i.e…. Past oceans are now deserts. Lets suppose you are sitting on your coach and your house began getting to warm. Would you sit there and swear that there was to much CO2 warming the house? No, you would get up and walk to the thermostat and turn down the heat! Why would you do that? Because it is your furnace heating your home… Guess what, we get our heat from the sun, the solar cycles match our past hot and cool stages… Hmmmm… Sounds logical to me… Hotter sun = Warmer Earth…
That makes as much sense as a “scientist†telling half the truth or declaring worst case scenarios to recieve his grants… Many are just trying to collect thier paycheck and look for “science†to justify thier existence while ignoring conflicting facts to thier belief system…
That being said you may have a valid point about CO2 holding in the heat. The solution then would be to plant more trees, or let nature take its course and let the plants catch up with our CO2 output… Unless all that shade led to global cooling…
PS; CO2(Carbon Dioxide, the global warming gas) is also used for carbonation in soda so fear the poison, and please consider holding your breath…
June 22nd, 2006 at 11:47 am“nanny_govt_sucks,” I can only assume you are paid to do what it is you do; and that is go around to every website mentioning climate change and repeat what you have said and have had disproven on other sites. It’s getting old already. Find a new job.
December 7th, 2006 at 7:36 pmOh, and just for you Tom (comment #155):
1. Referring to your opponents as “nazis” is juvenile in the extreme.
2. Yes, there is a carbon cycle. And you would make a lousy accountant. Burning fossil fuels adds more carbon in the carbon cycle than was originally there. This is, as you say, first grade stuff.
3. Weather changes. Climate has trends. Moreover, the climate has been remarkably stable for about the last 10,000 years, making agriculture, and thus civilisation possible.
4. Regarding sun intensity, the sun is about 25% more intense now than during the age of the dinosaurs when the Earth was much hotter (and had more CO2 in the atmosphere). The “solar intensity argument is a debunked one that was first put forward by a woman who was on the payroll of the oil companies.
Furthermore Physikalisch-Meteorologisches Observatorium Davos (http://www.pmodwrc.ch/pmod.php?topic=tsi/composite/SolarConstant) show us that ther has been no increase in solar irradiance from 1978 onward when they started monitoring.
5. You cannot plant enough trees to uptake all the additional carbon in the atmosphere. The old argument (over 100 years old) was that the oceans would take up the CO2. Well, to an extent they are. And that is causing the formation of carbonic acid, which is killing off sea life.
And, trees have a moderating effect. They tend to warm cool air and cool warm air.
So, seeing as how every counter-argument you made was wrong, next time please consider holding your breath…
December 7th, 2006 at 8:03 pm