VIDEO: Inhofe ‘Very Proud’ There’s Never Been a Homosexual Relationship in the ‘Recorded History of Our Family’
VIDEO: Inhofe ‘Very Proud’ There’s Never Been a Homosexual Relationship in the ‘Recorded History of Our Family’
This afternoon on the Senate floor, Sen. James Inhofe (R-OK) stood before a large photograph of his family and shared this important fact: “I’m really proud to say that in the recorded history of our family, we’ve never had a divorce or any kind of homosexual relationship.” Watch it:
INHOFE: As you see here, and I think this is maybe the most important prop we’ll have during the entire debate, my wife and I have been married 47 years. We have 20 kids and grandkids. I’m really proud to say that in the recorded history of our family, we’ve never had a divorce or any kind of homosexual relationship.
(HT: Atrios and AmericaBlog)
Inhofe is consistent in his professional life. His office says “he does not hire openly gay staffers ‘due to the possibility of a conflict of agenda.’”
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Here’s hoping that a family member of his comes out of the closet. Poetic justice
June 6th, 2006 at 7:06 pmLOL, oh man, you can’t make this shit up! ROTFLMAO
June 6th, 2006 at 7:06 pmWhat would you expect from a Senator that supports torture?
Also, it is a little creepy that he apparently keeps tabs on the sexual histories of his family. I hope he doesn’t use binoculars or peepholes for confirmation.
-GSD
June 6th, 2006 at 7:07 pmWhat’s a little discrmination in the workplace.
June 6th, 2006 at 7:07 pm“he does not hire openly gay staffers ‘due to the possibility of a conflict of agenda.’â€
Yeah, and the KKK doesn’t hire African-Americans as interns. Unreasonable analogy? I don’t think so. Monsters are monsters, congressman be dammed.
June 6th, 2006 at 7:08 pmtolerance is off the charts in the senate!
/sarcasm off
June 6th, 2006 at 7:10 pmIsn’t that a statistical impossibility?
Goper’s Lament (Hard To Be A Republican
June 6th, 2006 at 7:10 pmOklahoma??
Only two things come from Oklahoma …. and I don’t see any horns on this guy.
June 6th, 2006 at 7:10 pmMy God. The bigotry. Proudly portrayed on the floor of the United States Senate. This tops Cheney’s ‘F-Bomb’. What a sad, sad place we’ve found ourselves in.
June 6th, 2006 at 7:11 pmQuick, someone check his office computers for porn.
June 6th, 2006 at 7:13 pmHe better watch out if Cheney invites him hunting this weekend.
June 6th, 2006 at 7:16 pmWho cares about this asshat and his family.
June 6th, 2006 at 7:16 pm# 8
The two things come from Texas, not Oklahoma.
At least get your Geographical Stereotypes correct.
June 6th, 2006 at 7:17 pmSend this guy a ” I am a narrow minded Bigot!! ” sign to hang around his neck.
June 6th, 2006 at 7:18 pmAnd the point being: I have some sort of role model for the rest of America? This kind of boorish behaviour will only attract investigative efforts. No doubt there’s all sorts of skelletons in that there closet.
Let the fun begin.
Trident
June 6th, 2006 at 7:19 pmHe very pointedly avoided saying anything about pedophilia or bestiality. Makes me wonder what he’s hiding.
June 6th, 2006 at 7:19 pmHe’s a liar, statistics show that every family has at least one gay in the family. Maybe his siblings aren’t gay but I guarentee he has a cousin or an aunt or uncle who is.
He’s probably the gay in his family. Nasty closet gays are the worse type of liars.
Do you know what GOP stands for?
June 6th, 2006 at 7:22 pmGays On Parade.
#16, LOL! I agree, he’s probably has scores of child porn on his computer and indulges in beastiality.
June 6th, 2006 at 7:24 pmGallagher says:
Statistically, one out of three people are gay.
So look to your left then look to your right.
If you don’t see that gay person, then guess what!
June 6th, 2006 at 7:25 pmI’m positive I read somewhere a few years ago that Inhofe was considered the dumbest member of the US Senate, and that’s saying something. to wit: http://buffaloreport.com/2004/040511.jackson.dumb.html
June 6th, 2006 at 7:26 pmdid he remember to count himself in his survey? senator dude sounds kind of gay to me.
June 6th, 2006 at 7:27 pmOr an erection or a sexually satisfied woman.
June 6th, 2006 at 7:27 pmI’m with Trident on this one — it’s time for a little digging into Inhofe’s history. Anybody this bent has got to have a lot of buried bodies. Adultery, drunk driving, domestic assault, financial or legal improprieties, etc. Howdy, Okie liberals! Anyone feel like sharing?
June 6th, 2006 at 7:28 pmAnd just how does he know someone in his family isn’t registered with the Log Cabin Republicans?
June 6th, 2006 at 7:29 pmDid anyone notice there appears to be an African American child in the photo (see http://americablog.blogspot.com/2006/06/great-moments-in-republican-bigotry.html). This suggests suggests a couple of possibilities: adoption or adultery in the Inohofe family!
June 6th, 2006 at 7:30 pmYeah….in oklahoma where coburn was afraid to let two girls go to the bathroom in highschools together because their natural urges might take over……
I think what Inhofe meant to say to finish was “until me that is……but does it really count if it’s part of my sado-massochistic tendencies?”
June 6th, 2006 at 7:32 pmTypical Repuglican, makes wide ranging remarks as though they were absolute while not really knowing. He claims to know the sexual history of his entire and broad extended family…….. sure. Newsflash! With an A-hole like him in the family folk are not likely running around telling everyone about thier youthfull indiscretions, or any other fun they may have had for that matter.
June 6th, 2006 at 7:34 pmWake up! Scepticism is a good thing!
that’s cuz in the inhofe clan, no one would DARE mention it for fear of being shunned…
And, yes, I DO take it personally
June 6th, 2006 at 7:34 pmI am 72 yrs old, lived through a disastrous economic depression, had three(3)brothers in WW2 in combat zones and I am a veteran. I have never seen the country in so much upheaval and divisiveness as I am experiencing today. Viet Nam was terrible, but the will of the people prevailed to end that unfortunate war. Today Viet Nam is a valued trading partner and diplomatically recognized. The Constitution of the United States is to protect the people from invasive policies and programs of the government. We fought the Revolutionary war to preserve these rights that were written into the sacred law of the land that guarantees life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness to all citizens regardless or race, color or creed. Justice denied to one is justice denied to all–MLK.
June 6th, 2006 at 7:36 pmHow about blacks? Any black in that blood? How about American Indian? Come on! All Americans have some injun in them…
June 6th, 2006 at 7:38 pmI’m really proud to say that in the recorded history of our family, we’ve never had a divorce or any kind of homosexual relationship.
That’s because he had them killed.
t-mac
June 6th, 2006 at 7:39 pmDad,
I blew a frat brother after a dozen shots of Goldschlager back in the 80’s.
Sorry,
Junior Inhofe
June 6th, 2006 at 7:39 pmHow about incest? Any horse thieves? Just feeble-mindedness and arrogance?
June 6th, 2006 at 7:40 pmReally, why bother with this kind of homophobic assholes? (Or others)
June 6th, 2006 at 7:41 pmbut he couldn’t say he wasn’t inbred.
June 6th, 2006 at 7:49 pmYou tell us Jim! I don’t have any queers in my family either… except for a cousin, and my sister in-law, but that doesn’t count. Neither do my sister’s or uncle’s divorces. Don’t worry about all these naysayers and their statistics. I believe your family is sin, discretion and queer free… just like mine.
June 6th, 2006 at 7:51 pmDouche.
omg, how stupid is he? He really thinks that there has never been anyone in his family who is gay? I cannot wait for someone in that group to come out!
Although he obviously doesn’t care how insulting he is to gays and lesbians, you’d think he wouldn’t want to also insult every voter in Oklahoma who has been divorced. No divorces in the family? Must be a lot of medication going on.
June 6th, 2006 at 7:53 pmThis is really revolting and anyone with a heart and brain should just be furious. Absolutely unacceptable for this ass to spout his holier than thou crap in everyone’s faces in the people’s ( all the people’s ) House. How disgusting he is. That’s probably one screwed up family and he should not be allowed get away with his crass bragging that he “lives better” than other people on our time. We paid taxes for that Senate Floor. This is not a floor for him to sell his racist, superior crap about his personal life. I’m calling his office tomorrow and giving who ever answers a piece of my mind. Sorry….to rant on…..What a petty, shameful, and low class man he is. Real Americans can not let these pigs, loud and squealing though they may be, to dominate our collective culture any longer. Their time is up as far as I’m concerned. Period. Everyone needs to pull together and stop this insanity. I am a staight woman and have a lovely, brave and awesome gay son. He is has more heart in one of the hairs on his head than that pus bag will ever have. God I’m mad…….and so so sick of these people. How dare they.
June 6th, 2006 at 7:57 pmInhofe HAS been sued by a member of his own family. Back in the 80’s and 90’s he had a long nasty fight with his own brother that ended up in court.
So he’ll never be able to claim that he’s proud to never have been sued by his own family.
June 6th, 2006 at 7:58 pmhe only goes to gay bars on ladies night!
June 6th, 2006 at 8:00 pmJune 6th, 2006 at 8:04 pm
He said two important things here… Recorded history and relationship.
Doesn’t mean there was no gay sex among his kids or grandkids.
June 6th, 2006 at 8:06 pmHeee’ s Soooo Gaaaay, heee’s gay, and he likes to be that way, you could saaaay, things are sort of diffrent todaaay…….
June 6th, 2006 at 8:08 pmHeee’ s Soooo Gaaaay, heee’s gay, and he likes to be that way, you could saaaay, things are sort of different todaaay…….
June 6th, 2006 at 8:09 pmI find it interesting that he admits that his hiring practice discriminates against someone based on sexual orientation. Isn’t that against the law? Oh, right, laws don’t apply to them. As far as his purported “pride” about not having gays or divorces in his family, well, it just sickens me to think that this is something to be proud of. What family member would come out of the closet in that environment? Of course he has gays in his family, and likely a bunch of miserable marriages. Would love to hear what his family has to say behind his back. No doubt “tyrant” is a word used quite frequently.
June 6th, 2006 at 8:11 pm“Maybe one of these days everyone of those cocksuckers might get caught” Zappa in response to the news Jimmy swaggert was found with a prostitute
June 6th, 2006 at 8:12 pmhttp://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1589/is_1999_July_20/ai_55183016
Inhofe’s porn-gate – discovery of Internet pornography on Sen James Inhofe’s office computers forces him to withdraw opposition to gay ambassador-designate James Hormel
(Maybe he should hire gay people… they are used to having to hide their porn.)
June 6th, 2006 at 8:15 pmlet hin spout off – hi ass will be grass next election and he will have time to investigate his families flaws……………..
June 6th, 2006 at 8:25 pmBut did he mention that he’s a chronic masturbator?
June 6th, 2006 at 8:31 pmSpeaking of proud. I am proud that I have never voted for one single Republican in my whole life.
June 6th, 2006 at 8:32 pmNo gays or divorce in his family but how about incidents of domestic abuse? Hmmmm?
June 6th, 2006 at 8:41 pmSpeaking of proud. I am proud that I have never voted for one single Republican in my whole life.
I can say the same and am very proud too!
June 6th, 2006 at 8:43 pmI’m with 50. I’m also proud that I’ve never voted for a Republican, either.
Hundreds of thousands of people dying in this phony baloney War on Terra, and these clowns want us to talk about sex behind closed doors.
But what do you expect having a VP who learned his politics from Nixon & Co?
June 6th, 2006 at 8:44 pmJust pity this ignoramus! He is, pathetically, in the tradition of the flat-earth folks, and we all know how their belief-system fared. It’s time to launch a national education program, with all the available data regarding homosexuality. In the meantime, we need to let Inhofe know how far off-track he is.
June 6th, 2006 at 8:44 pmSo, he bases his believings in what have been recorded at the family’s history. So he claims that don’t having any recorded evidence of gays in his family, means that no member of his family was gay.
What means that he is pro-torture? That the members of his family routinely torture other people?
June 6th, 2006 at 8:49 pm….and those nice, nice, hardworking folks in Oklahoma wastes their votes and tax dollars on someone like THIS? Democracy is on life support in America.
June 6th, 2006 at 8:54 pmcheck out http://www.youtube for videos of the dum-dumbs. Or just enjoy plenty of concert video, comedy and whatever.
Don’t miss, Bush and Blair want to take you to the gay bar, its one of the best.
June 6th, 2006 at 8:59 pmWhen a person cares to say what this senator says one thinks about the theory of latent homosexuality.
Pathetic so much stress is given to these non-problems with a war going on, and issues on torture, extraordinaryh rendition, massacres, lies, corruption, economical problems.
They are so much in touch with reality, aren’t they?
June 6th, 2006 at 8:59 pmIt’s one thing if they behave this way in their own homes with like-minded folks, but these people are trolling the halls of power- the LAST place we need this nonsense.
June 6th, 2006 at 9:00 pmoops, http://www.youtube.com
June 6th, 2006 at 9:00 pmOklahoma. That’s a sad pathetic place, right up there with Kansas. May global warming turn them both into dustbowls. One of the few things I ever liked about Texas (where I grew up) was their hatred for Oklahoma. Another state I promise to drive around if it’s on my path to somewhere happy and liberal.
June 6th, 2006 at 9:08 pmfreeme: I’ve always wondered how to inject sarcasm in my posts. Now I see that it can be done with HTML.
June 6th, 2006 at 9:11 pmGee, what a coincidence. I’m proud there never have been any senators in my family.
June 6th, 2006 at 9:13 pm#17 I thought GOP stood for Gangsters On Parade
June 6th, 2006 at 9:13 pmHe and his wife spawned 20 kids and grandkids, and he’s 71 years old. If everyone did what he did, the world’s polulation would increase tenfold every 70 years.
June 6th, 2006 at 9:14 pmSounds like over-compensation to me! And EVERY family has a few skeletons in the closet(so to speak) eventually.
June 6th, 2006 at 9:17 pmWow…what a scum bag. Here’s hoping someone in his family comes out before is time ultimately comes.
June 6th, 2006 at 9:19 pmNotice that he said recorded history! They all suck each other off in the closets, but they’ve never written about it in the family chronicles!
Closeted. And proud of it.
June 6th, 2006 at 9:23 pm“…in the recorded history of our family…” Maybe the family just didn’t record the gays and lesbians.
June 6th, 2006 at 9:23 pmOh My God–20 children. Husband and wife are rabbits.
June 6th, 2006 at 9:27 pmre #4 and others: His office says he “he does not hire openly gay staffers ‘due to the possibility of a conflict of agenda.
I just heard from a reliable source that Congress does not have to follow federal regulations regarding discrimination when hiring staff for the very reason cited. This isn’t a joke.
June 6th, 2006 at 9:34 pmchange the His office says “he does not hire openly gay staffers ‘due to the possibility of a conflict of agenda.’â€
to
His office says “he does not hire openly blacks due to the possibility of a conflict of agenda.’â€
And you see the way this bigot would have acted in the 60s
Discrimination against people for race, sex and sexual orientation is just plain wrong.
Why should gays have to put their lives on hold to fight this kind of bull, when they are busy trying to make a living and paying taxes like every other american?
When bigotry becomes the foundation of politics every american loses out.
June 6th, 2006 at 9:36 pmhey rube!
June 6th, 2006 at 9:38 pmwant to go to Oklahoma now?
no one would be safe in a state that would elect such a person.
whaddya bet his family is very high in homosexual percentage?
perhaps they have a group beat every so often to put the fear of their plastic jesus into the klan
perhaps then they have a circle jerk
Look at the broken blood vessels all over this alcoholic turd’s face. I’d enjoy the full disclosure of that aspect of his family’s bloodline. Inhofe’s a disgrace to his species.
June 6th, 2006 at 9:42 pmI’m betting it’s the incest survivor that speaks out. Or the child molester. Certainly someone who will not make a liar of the good senator.
June 6th, 2006 at 9:44 pmHe just sounds like a good swinging liar to me.
June 6th, 2006 at 9:46 pmPride comes before a fall.
As much fun as it is to joke about this ludicrous pronouncement, his proud bigotry rivals anything the South had to offer in the pre Civil Rights era. He’s kept his bloodline pure, free from taint. What’s it supposed to mean? No divorce. No Homosexuals. I presume that the implication is that Homosexuals and Divorcees are intrinsically bad in some way, subhuman people, not “created equal” or if they were “created equal,” they’ve fallen from grace.
This is monsterous prejudice on the floor of the U.S. Senate, intolerable in a society that has our Constitution, our Bill of Rights. What is he proposing? Gas chambers for Divorcees and Homosexuals?
June 6th, 2006 at 9:47 pmYo. This guy’s a Dominionist. We all know what that means, do we not?
June 6th, 2006 at 9:55 pmSen. Inhofe is probably a pedophile creepo > what a sick piece of human filth > the citizens of Oklahoma should be ashamed to have elected him Senator for their state! Everyone must demand that he be forced to resign from the Senate ASAP!
June 6th, 2006 at 9:57 pmGeez if anyone multiplied like this senator who has 20 kids, we would be 100 billions on earth. Of course the only ones with health insurance and tax cuts would be Republicans, and they all would drive SUVs.
June 6th, 2006 at 9:57 pmIf you don’t know what being a Dominionist means, see here.
June 6th, 2006 at 9:58 pmWell good for f**k’n you. Aren’t you the lucky one, Senator James Inhofe. What you forgot to mention is the inbreeding in your family tree.
June 6th, 2006 at 9:58 pmA guilty dog barks the loudest.
June 6th, 2006 at 9:59 pmThey’re debating a ban on gay marriage amendment while Baghdad burns. These so-called Republicans are just plain weird. enough
June 6th, 2006 at 10:02 pmI’m sure someone may have already brought this up, but… if he’s SOOOOO proud of no homosexual relationships in his family, is he ashamed of the Vice President’s family. Should be the first reporter’s question to him right out of the gate. Should every American with a gay son/daughter/brother/neice, etc. be ashamed?
What a crock of shameful posturing.
June 6th, 2006 at 10:17 pmYes, statistically there would have to be a gay family member. If there have been none so far,they are due. I submit the next baby will be the gay baby.Let’s keep an eye on the Inhofes. It’s time for a new baby watch anyway.
June 6th, 2006 at 10:18 pmPlease go to http://www.theocracywatch.org to get an understanding of what a dominionist is. These people are not Christians in any sense of the word but are much closer to Othodox Jewish Zionists that live by the law of the old testament.
At theocracywatch.org, there is an active tag identifying What’s New?
June 6th, 2006 at 10:20 pm( http://www.theocracywatch.org/new_links.htm )
This gives a great deal of information regarding these types of people in our country. They also have a video that can be downloaded and shared. I would recommend this to anyone that doesn’t feel that stoning people to death for thoughtcrimes should be part of our representative republic.
And Saddam was elected with 100% of the electorate in Iraq in the last “election”…
June 6th, 2006 at 10:23 pmLikewise, who would dare come out of the closet in this bellowing farts family??…
the joke is on him, he’s standing in front of the Cheney family picture.
June 6th, 2006 at 10:24 pmDishonesty must run in the family, too, Senator Inhofe– judging by your own track record, as well as the ridiculous claim that, just because noone’s ever come out in your family, you come from an unbroken line of heterosexuals.
Myself, I’m really proud that in the known history of my family there’s never been as big a jackass crook as you.
June 6th, 2006 at 10:26 pmWell good!!! At least the incest wasn’t homosexual!!
June 6th, 2006 at 10:34 pmSorry, dad, but I’m gay. Please don’t beat me . . . I wanted to tell you to your face but a liberal blog was the only place left in this world where I could find acceptance.
June 6th, 2006 at 10:38 pmgood one GSD…
June 6th, 2006 at 10:40 pmGOP=Gloryhole Ogling Perverts
June 6th, 2006 at 10:44 pmThe genders of Inhofe and his wife should be challenged–they’re probably undiagnosed hermaphrodites!
June 6th, 2006 at 10:48 pmOr conflict with sanity, you mean…
June 6th, 2006 at 10:49 pmThis is too much! I wonder how many of his kids and grandkids cruise Craigslist! What a hoot.
This is the kind of “leader” Oklahoman’s are electing?
Good grief.
June 6th, 2006 at 11:03 pm#68, er well funny you should mention that – it turns out that that is what brought on his fatal heart attack. Er, trying to pick up a chair to throw at your grandson who has just ‘come out’ is not good for a man of his age – oh crap, that doesn’t happen for another 10 years. OK, disregard that, I never said it. Damnit, Dad is going to crucify me.
June 6th, 2006 at 11:08 pmNever? I can believe no gays, but no divorces? Maybe something in the water.
June 6th, 2006 at 11:18 pmThe Inhofe family curse is that they all look like Howdy Doody.
June 6th, 2006 at 11:18 pm. . . . in the words of Shakespeare . . .
“Methinks he protests tooooooooooooo much”.
June 6th, 2006 at 11:19 pmAbsolutely bizzare…
June 6th, 2006 at 11:21 pmThat he knows of!
June 6th, 2006 at 11:23 pmInhofe fails to mention that he was probably about 19 when he got married and his wife 14 > those Oklahoma hicks get married to young girls and incest in a family is not uncommon! Notice that Senator Inhofe is against abortion even if impregnated by a family member!
June 6th, 2006 at 11:30 pmNote, he left out Mental Illness, his own.
June 6th, 2006 at 11:38 pmNote, he left out Mental Illness, his own.
June 6th, 2006 at 11:38 pmDoes the term “recorded history” include idle chatter at the Dew Drop Inn in Wapanucka?
Take a look at the two boys on the right in the matching sweaters. Hmmmmm
June 6th, 2006 at 11:46 pmAnyone in his family history, on either side, maybe gay and just never came out? Naaaa.
June 6th, 2006 at 11:51 pmJames Infohole
June 6th, 2006 at 11:51 pmAnd the Lord said ” IF IT BE YOUR SISTER AND/OR BROTHER” you’re still going to Hell.
June 6th, 2006 at 11:54 pmWhat a stupid bigot!
But with a lot of these people that make such an issue over the gay lifestyle, he probably spends a lot of evenings at “rest areas”.
If not, let’s hope he and that rancid Anne KKKoulter never breed. (If they did the child would be named “Damien”.
June 7th, 2006 at 12:03 amInhofe is SOOOOOOO gay! All the phobes hide this part of themselves.
June 7th, 2006 at 12:09 am“no gays, no divorces”… but one,(at the very least) dangerous idiot. Is it genetics or poor parentlng that breeds immoral scum like this? I wish holy water or perrier or *something* could drive out the unending obsession these CREEPS have with torture and other people’s sex lives.
June 7th, 2006 at 12:12 amInhofe meets with Faida Mitiuf, Ambassador of Congo.
June 7th, 2006 at 12:20 amThere are times when I wish we could convict every single rethuglican in the house and senate, and indeed the White House terrorists, of treason.
But that won’t happen; not democrats nor rethuglicans will do it. This stupid party line shit should be illegal.
June 7th, 2006 at 12:22 amso the 4th Reich marches on. next round up the gays and divorcees and stick em in prisons, yahoo!!! 1930’s Germany here we go!. ‘The Decider’ for life bwahahaha…. thud.
June 7th, 2006 at 12:50 amHis dick tastes like shit.
June 7th, 2006 at 12:56 amso are families going to have to put stickers on their doors like the Jews did? Gays and divorcees live here. Stay away!
June 7th, 2006 at 1:12 amBoy, did anybody tell Dick Cheney what this dude is saying about his family?
How about Ken Mehlman?
How about a certain ex-male cheerleader in the Oval Office?
June 7th, 2006 at 1:36 am“I’m really proud to say that in the recorded history of our family, we’ve never … any kind of multi-racial relationship.†First they came for the gays….
June 7th, 2006 at 1:47 amBah he probably visits the Bohemian Grove
June 7th, 2006 at 1:55 amhttp://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/july2004/220704nypostgaypornstar.htm
But wait! There’s more! Inhofe’s mother was a virgin till the day she died!
…if only it were true she would have made a great contribution to humanity.
June 7th, 2006 at 2:10 amI did his son.
June 7th, 2006 at 2:10 amThat’s why they f*** sheep, goats, and cows in Oklahoma.
June 7th, 2006 at 2:24 amI am so ashamed this guy is from Oklahoma. (I am really a Texan, but live in OK) He and Coburn are the most evil, nasty, stupid, racist people ever to disgrace this state. I can not believe this person got enough support (or coburn- but he did run a really dirty and sleezy campaign filled with lies) to get elected. However, that does speak volumes of the voters in this state. After all Oklahoma is “OK”, not great, not smart just “OK”.
However, back on topic, I suspect he and Boren (you know the President of OU) have bumped uglies. Boren has been seen in many a gay hang out in Oklahoma, but the press always ignores it. Boren and In-HIM-hoff are buddies.
This whole debate is wrong on so many levels. It is just political, they know it is not about policy, just about dividing a nation. Pity.
Inhofe saying he is very proud he has never been in a homosexual relationship is just like saying I am very proud I am not black back in the 50’s. It is just plain disgusting!
It is however very revealing that all these so called upstanding people are so proud to display their rage and bigotry. I have never known of a time in my life where it was so popular to declare your intolerance, bigotry or racism so openly. It is truly a sad state of affairs.
P.S.: I bet all those evangelicals are truly pissed that the world didn’t end on 6/6/06 like they said it would. I wonder if they will be shopping for a more reality based religion.
June 7th, 2006 at 3:22 amAnd to point out the obvious: Most of these creeps that are married and hide behind that and religion do have that creepy sexual side to them, the side that likes to dress up in costumes or play around with either underage girls or boys or adult men.
And to clarify further, a trick is not always considered a relationship. (for those of you behind the curve – a trick is the same as a one-night-stand or F***k buddy)
So by Inhofe’s broad claim to straight sex, I guess the same could be said of dumbya. But to Dumbya’s credit, he never tells the truth, so we don’t expect him to be able to lie so cleverly.
June 7th, 2006 at 3:28 am[...] Or maybe they want to support people like this idiot. [...]
June 7th, 2006 at 4:02 amYou all have to realize that the important family values are heterosexuality and non burning of flags. Murder, war, torture, stealing , lying , cheating are all ok. But no homosexuals dammit
June 7th, 2006 at 4:14 amNew studies are showing that male birth order is a factor in determining sexual orientation. A second or third son is often, by a 33% factor, homosexual. Inhofe’s family may never have had a RELATIONSHIP, but there are men in that family who like to suck dick. They may be married to wives and have kids. But they like to suck dick. This newer evidence is still being reworked in more studies but there is a strong tie to sexuality and male birth order.
June 7th, 2006 at 5:51 amIf he were in front of me I would punch him out. Then say a prayer for him……
He deserves nothing more or less. Except to remain in hell after his death.
June 7th, 2006 at 6:52 amAnybody who actually admits their family is a “prop” can’t be taken too seriously.
June 7th, 2006 at 7:07 amWhat about divorce, spousal abuse? I’m really tired of the assumption that marriage is always perfect
June 7th, 2006 at 7:08 amregardless of the sex of the participants. What have the social conservatives done for the straight divorce rate other than contribute to it’s growth? Has any one considered what SSC(same sex couples) contribute in the way of taxes, either property or retail, and their negative draw on local tax supported services, IE: schools and hospitals. I don’t get it. What if SSCs decided to ask for thier own voucher to selectively use their local tax contribution in lieu of sending any children to local schools? Social conservatives hate the sinners but they sure don’t mind taking the tax revenues they contribute.
I find it hard to believe that all members of his family are so open and honest with each other. I wonder how far back he’s gone in the recorded history of his family. When I go back 3-4 generations in the history of my family, I had two gr+ -granduncles whom the family knew were homosexuals. Does this mean I’m going to burn in Hell?
June 7th, 2006 at 7:40 amI think it is in bad taste to flaunt your sexuality in public. Particularly in a governmental institution. How dare Inhofe speak on the private sex lives of others. Unless he was there, it is all hearsay.
What if a gay representative got up in front of congress showed a picture of his family and explained their sexual histories? Would that be acceptable ?
Inhofe is vulgar and exploitive of his family.
Let’s vote him and the rest of these bigots out of office.
June 7th, 2006 at 7:46 amWhen James Inhote was mayor of Tulsa, one of his college-aged son’s gay dalliances were an open secret. But, perhaps, that’s why he said “recorded.” He knew about it, but no one ever printed it.
June 7th, 2006 at 7:52 amWhat I told Atrios this morning:
How embarrassing. Jim Inhofe is one of my senators, so I can tell you what it’s like to live in Oklahoma. It’s almost like a phony fascimile of reality. Jim’s a world class nut job. He’s the guy who stated he loves Pat Robertson for the Congressional Record, and helped direct funds for building an interstate exit for Pat’s house. I had a meager brush with Jimmy that tells much about him.
Oklahoma City had a police lab chemist named Joyce Gilchrist whose slipshod work was so poor, she was fired and some 1,400 cases she had slaughtered were reviewed, spawning a deluge of lawsuits. Career district attorney Andy Coats, another typical dick known for his ridiculous little cowboy outfits and highway bridge graffiti declaring him an adulterer, was happy to prosecute and convict people at random based on this poor lab work, suddenly found himself involuntarily retired.
In response to this mortifying travesty, I wrote my representatives in Congress suggesting it might be time we consider abolishing the death penalty, if for no other reason because we’d executed innocent people. I don’t usually get responses, but Sen. Inhofe wrote back, and it wasn’t a form letter. In that it was a personal letter, and an angry one at that, I should have saved it, but it was so infuriating I threw it in the trash. Little Jimmy explained to me that murder is a very horrible crime, and that people in Oklahoma expect revenge and he wasn’t going to do anything to disrupt that pretty picture. You see, Jimmy knows I’m only three damn years old and don’t understand Oklahomans don’t care if innocent people are executed. A crime was committed. Someone was arrested. Enough said! Kill all of them, screw the details. Sadly, Jim’s depiction of his constituents is absolutely accurate. In Texas, this kind of thinking is referred to as “ignorance gone to seed.” In Oklahoma, it’s a group behavior phenomenon.
The moral of our story is, when you look at the photo of Jim and his family, think of it as your tax dollars at work.
June 7th, 2006 at 9:16 amYeah, and the KKK doesn’t hire African-Americans as interns. Unreasonable analogy? I don’t think so. Monsters are monsters, congressman be dammed.
Comment by Punchy #5
I ABSOLUTELY concur with your assessment Punchy,
Inhofe is an inbred al Cracker racist…
…from a long line of inbred al Cracker racists…
…and I’ll bet there’s been a Brokeback session or two in his own personal life…
…most “conservatives” hostile to homosexuality are fighting their own demons…
…otherwise, why would they make such a BIG DEAL out of other people’s personal preferences?…
June 7th, 2006 at 9:18 amWell that’s that. Based upon his overwhelming statistical evidence, I am reversing my opinions on Gay Marriage. Kudos to Mr. Inhofe for finally presenting some releveant data on this issue.
June 7th, 2006 at 9:21 amSo, the good Senator is “really proud” to be a homophobe. I am at a loss to understand why anyone would be “really proud” to be a closed-minded, homophobic bigot. Even if the people whose votes I needed to get elected felt the same way, I would not be “really proud” to be a homophobe. It’s been my impression that the people who think like Senator Inhofe don’t generally know a lot of homosexuals, or even all that much about homosexuality in general. The funny thing is, the homosexuals that they do know personally, well they’re alright. It’s always those “others” out there that are “dangerous” to society. There is absolutely no merit to any argument this man (or any person) makes in support of this horrible idea for an Amendment to the Constitution.
June 7th, 2006 at 9:24 amPoliticians are noted for speaking in carefully worded, often ambiguous sentences. Is his statement, “…we’ve never had a divorce or any kind of homosexual RELATIONSHIP.” meant to infer that the family is LOADED with homosexuals who simply do not have partners? One has to entertain this possibility due to his wording. He’d be the sort that would say to a gay son/daughter, “If you want your inheritance you’d better stay in the closet.” Once a bigot, always a bigot.
June 7th, 2006 at 9:25 amThe GOP thinks being gay is worse than:
Lying to take our country to war.
Jeopardizing national security by outing a CIA agent.
Putting incompetent people in high-level jobs.
Spying on Americans.
Disregarding the Constitution.
Only faux Christians can stand behind this lying, corrupt administration.
June 7th, 2006 at 9:27 amJust look at this nutcase! He looks like a child molestor. Maybe no homosexuals in his family but I bet there is a few child molestors, starting with himself. Now that he has made such blatant, idiotic remarks, he’s bound to be chumping on his foot soon.
June 7th, 2006 at 9:27 amI’m really proud to say that in the recorded history of my family, we’ve never had a Republican, nor any kind of criminal relationship. Nor will my family hire Republicans or criminals, due to the possibility of a conflict of agenda.
After all, it’s a choice!
June 7th, 2006 at 9:32 amThis whole debate on the proposed constitutional amendment banning (discriminating against ) gay marriage is a straw man created by the Republicans to stir up their political base. It has no chance of passing. Give them all the rope they need to hang themselves – history will remember the issues of gay rights for what it is – just like the history of all civil rights – opposed by Republicans at every turn. It is time that these issues be framed more as civil righst issues, not gay vs. straight issues. I am a straight man, but that is irrelevant to the discussion on the proposed amendment, or Inhofe’s stupidly smug and discriminatory comments. Do not be intimidated by the ranting of the political right – they are wrong and history always exposes such small mindedness.
June 7th, 2006 at 9:36 amWell, that’s great that they are all straight. I don’t imagine any of them have had any trouble when enlisting in the military then. No funny business in the camps in Iraq, eh? Oh. You say they haven’t joined up yet? Other priorities, I guess. All that work producing children takes time and energy. Besides, you have to make enough money to put food on your family. No need to risk messing up those beautiful bodies with IEDs either.
June 7th, 2006 at 9:52 amDon’t knock Oklahoma. Where else can you find a televangelist and “University” promoter named after one of the better forms of sex?
June 7th, 2006 at 9:55 amI got so ticked off about this subject, I wrote my first blog about the whole amendment crap and thought I’d share it if anyone is interested.
http://just1human.livejournal.com/
June 7th, 2006 at 10:07 amInhofe is one of the Senate’s main global-warming deniers. The man lives in a made-up world of make believe, my guess is his family is full of queens.
June 7th, 2006 at 10:08 amJune 7th, 2006 at 10:12 am
Its time for all the gay and lesbian people in Inhofe’s immediate and extended family to come out – or be outed against their will. As unfortunate as forced outing of them might be, Inhofe has already thrown the gauntlet and it is his responsibility to verify the truth of his statement or accept the fallout. If members of his family get hurt, who cares? Members of my family are being hurt right now by the push for this amendment.
Let the outings begin.
June 7th, 2006 at 10:13 amI’m ashamed of Jim Inhofe. I’m ashamed that he is on the Senate floor speaking for Oklahomans. I feel sorry for his family, used as a prop in his hate-filled diatrabe. I am embarassed for him as he stands there and says that his family is better than most families in our state and in this nation. Inhofe has opened his family up to attacks from everywhere now. They have been used as a prop in a debate about an issue that was dead before it started. I hope that it was worth it for the likely pain that it will cause when the perfect family is found to be anything but.
Check out my vlog on the topic. I stutter and stammer a bit, but it’s because I’m furious that Jim Inhofe thinks he’s better than me and my family, and that of my neighbors and friends. This guy is due a reality check.
June 7th, 2006 at 10:42 amSome one please get a picture of that son of a bitch humping a 10 year old boy.
June 7th, 2006 at 10:45 amIf anyone on here can find proof that anyone in Sen. Inhofe’s family is Gay, or had a tryst with another person of the same sex, or anyone in his family got divorced, or family abuse like incest, then please post that information on this blog and give it to the mainline press as well!
Sen. Inhofe must be exposed as a hypocrite, and he must be forced to resign from the Senate!
June 7th, 2006 at 10:59 amLooks like a challenge from the good Senator, for someone with a little time on their hands to research the truth on that….
June 7th, 2006 at 11:01 amInhofe is a spoiled brat who failed (like W in Texas) in business, not once but twice. dunno if anyone is “out” in his family, but they are a contentious lot. they sue each other.
as a progressive stuck in Oklahoma, i can only say there are alot of us digusted with the congressional delegation we are saddled with. in 2004, only one county supported Gore…tho to be honest it was close in a number of places.
we are a “religious” state. and lead the nation in out of wedlock teen pregnancies and 2nd in the country in early divorces.
i used to think we were the buckle of the Bible belt, until i traveled thru Missouri a month ago. talk about hate and ignorance.
June 7th, 2006 at 11:02 amIn the history of Inhofe’s family he’s very proud of the fact that no one in his family has ever made an intelligent statement
June 7th, 2006 at 11:12 amInhofe obviously suffers from Oklahomophobia
June 7th, 2006 at 11:15 amGays have a whole lot more to contribute that this asshole. What a freak OK has for its “so called” senator.
June 7th, 2006 at 11:18 amI am Sen. Inhofe’s son and I’m gay.
June 7th, 2006 at 11:20 amSo, when Aunt Sallie and Aunt Michelle have been living together unmarried for decades and no one has ever seen them go out with a man… draw your own conclusions sir!
June 7th, 2006 at 11:29 amOh please, sister, get down off of your high horse and admit that you like to have a little glory-hole fun at the local truck stop!
I hope his kids and some of his aunts or uncles are outted soon. That would be a nice slap in the face.
June 7th, 2006 at 11:47 amYesterday I predicted that Francine Busby would lose this contentious race in the 50th District where I live, and as I watch the results come in at 10pm my time, I am sadden that my prediction will likely come true.
June 7th, 2006 at 11:49 amAnd today it has come true. If you have lived here for the last 25 years as I have, you would probably not be so surprised, considering the demographics, military families and entrenched old boy’s network. Sure, there are plenty of nice people here, but the people that run this town is so corrupt it makes you want to throw up. I have picketed, voted, emailed, fax, whatever, you name it, I have tried…all to no avail. The last 6 months, I even designed my own digg type of website where you can vote and pick your own news to help get out the word…but it just seem not to work… I don’t know what else to do…any help you guys could give, you can email me or visit my website at zenwire.com and post comments to help change the attitude in San Diego for the November election.
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Well, this piece of work is one of my senators, so I decided to call his office here in Oklahoma City to see what was up. The conversation went something like this:
Me: Was this an attack on those families that do have gay members, such as that of the Vice President?
Her: No.
Me: Was this an attack on gays?
Her: No.
Me: Then just what is it that he is trying to say?
Her: That he loves his family.
Me: I notice that he did not mention that his family is free of infidelity, pedophilia or bestiality. Is he hiding something?
Her: Absolutly not.
Me: Then why didn’t he mention it, you know, just to clear up any doubts that people will obviously have?
Her: The Senator’s family life is not the public’s business.
Me: Really? Didn’t he just stand on the senate floor and discuss his family sexual practices — on live television? Since he is the one who brought up his family’s sexual practices in public, don’t you think he should be willing to answer a few questions about it?
Her: Sir, there is a time and a place for this.
Me: Great! Could you please tell me that time and place? I have a pen and paper and am ready to write it down.
Her: Click.
So, not getting the kind of response I had hoped for, I decided to phone the good senator’s offices in DC, where I was connected to Laura, the person in charge of dealing with the marriage fiasco.
Me: Hi Laura, I was wondering if you could clear up a few things about the senator’s recent comments. He mentioned that this was the most important part of the debate, so I just wanted to get this “straight”. Did the senator mean tthat those families with gay members — like Dick Cheney’s — should not be proud? Was this also an attack on gays?
Laura: Absolutley not. The Senator’s words were have been misinterpreted, and I am sorry that you were offended.
Me: No, I think that the senator speaks his mind pretty clearly. If he had said “I am proud that there are no Catholics in my family” do you think that that would have been an attack on Catholics?
Laura: No, not at all.
Me: Really? You don’t think that if a senator said “I am proud that there are no Catholics, or Irish, in my family” that this would be seen as a sign of bigotry?
Laura: No. The senator feels that homosexuality is a choice.
Me: As is Catholicism.
Laura: Well, yes.
Me: Since the senator clearly feels that my next door neighbors — a gay couple — pose an immediate threat to my marriage — I am straight — I am wondering if you might refer me to the studies that have been done that show a correspondence between the divorce rate and the threat posed by gay marriage. In other words, does the senator have information on just how many marriages have been destroyed here in Oklahoma by a couple’s gay neighbors?
Laura: the senator is not aware of any such studies, but I imagine that not to many marriages end because of this.
Me: Really? Then why is the senator debating this issue?
Laura: It was Senator Frist’s decision to bring the issue to the floor.
Me: There are reliable studies that show a correspondence between family financial trouble and the divorce rate here in Oklahoma. Also, the main cause of personal bankruptcy in the state is the cost of healthcare. Wouldn’t the senator better protect Oklahoma families by dealing with the health care crisis rather than this issue?
Laura: The senate just had a long series of debates on health care. They spent a whole week on it.
Me: And what was done?
Laura: Sorry?
Me: And what new legislation was passed to address the issue?
Laura: Well, none.
Me: So you are telling me that a Congress controlled by a single party has just had a long debate on this pressing issue that clearly affects Oklahoma families, then did nothing about it, and has instead started debating something that you yourself don’t even believe threatens marriages in Oklahoma?
Laura: Senator Frist brought this issue to the floor.
Me: Then why didn’t Senator Inhofe use his time in the debate more wisely — like telling the other senators that they should be getting back to doing some real work?
Laura: You would have to ask the senator that yourself. We have spent enough time on this now.
Me: It seems pretty clear to me that the senator is a bigot, not just from this comment but from a whole bunch of other ones as well. Could you please ask the senator to at least hide his bigotry a little better? It refects very poorly on our state, and makes it difficult for me to attract employees from out of state when the worst prejudices about Oklahomans are confirmed for everyone on live television by our Congressional delegation.
Laura: I’ll pass your message along.
For what its worth…
June 7th, 2006 at 11:55 amI’m really proud to say that in the recorded history of our family, we’ve never had a divorce or any kind of homosexual relationship.
Maybe not, but he uses that right hand of his to have gay sex with himself…
hogweed – DAMN good work!
June 7th, 2006 at 12:09 pmOh, a few other things that I didn’t get to ask the senator’s spokespeople, but if anyone else calls, please do:
1. Is the senator willing to support a constitutional amendment banning divorce?
June 7th, 2006 at 12:09 pm2. Since the court decisions supporting gay marriage invariably cite the equal protection clause as the reason, is the senator willing to support a constitutional amendment to get rid of the equal protection clause?
3. Since the senator believes that marriage is a union between a man and a woman sanctified by god, is the senator willing to pass legislation banning civil ceremonies?
4. For the same reason, is the senator willing to pass a constitutional amendment that would get the state out of the marriage business itself, and leave it solely in the hands of churches?
[...] James Inhofe (R-OK) on gheys. INHOFE: As you see here, and I think this is maybe the most important prop we’ll have during the entire debate, my wife and I have been married 47 years. We have 20 kids and grandkids. I’m really proud to say that in the recorded history of our family, we’ve never had a divorce or any kind of homosexual relationship. [...]
June 7th, 2006 at 12:11 pm#165 ALRIGHT hogweed!!!!
This is exactly the type of thing that concerned, compassionate, truly patriotic constitutional loving Americans need to do. For way too long these hate mongering egomaniacs have been allowed to spew this bullshit across the land like a poisonous cloud. ALL of us need to follow your lead and take them to task. The more they have to defend their evil stupidity outside of the sound bites, the more they will be exposed for what they really are.
June 7th, 2006 at 12:17 pmSo embarrassed he is from my home state. He is yet another reason why I left politics in Oklahoma. See this item for another embarrassment.
June 7th, 2006 at 12:19 pmAlex: (comment #170) — please call the senator’s offices and ask for some clarification on all of this. You can use my questions above (post’s #165 and 167) as a jumping off point.
Anyone else? Here are the phone numbers, and be sure to mention that you are an Oklahoma voter:
Washington, DC
453 Russell Senate Office Building
Washington, DC 20510-3603
Phone: 202-224-4721
Fax: 202-228-0380
Tulsa
1924 S. Utica Avenue
Suite 530
Tulsa, OK 74104-6511
Phone: 918-748-5111
Fax: 918-748-5119
Oklahoma City
1900 NW Expressway
Suite 1210
Oklahoma City, OK 73118
Phone: 405-608-4381
Fax: 405-608-4120
McAlester
215 E. Choctaw
Suite 106 McAlester, OK 74501
Phone: 918-426-0933
Fax: 918-426-0935
Enid
June 7th, 2006 at 12:25 pm302 N. Independence
Suite 104
Enid, OK 73701
Phone: 580-234-5105
Fax: 580-234-5094
You notice he said ‘recorded’ history. Someone will find something.
June 7th, 2006 at 12:30 pmHigh five, hogweed! That was excellent. Damn that Bill Frist, forcing Sen. Inhofe to debate same-sex marriage on the floor of the Senate. And the responses of Inhofe’s spokeswomen to your questions point out one glaring fact: Inhofe does not have any credible, legitimate defense of his support for an amendment banning same-sex marriage.
June 7th, 2006 at 12:43 pmWhen he says “recorded history” of his family, does he mean all the way back to Adam, plus all his aunts, uncles, or cousins for all of recorded history? Seems to me there has been at least one homosexual in his extended family.
June 7th, 2006 at 12:44 pmWhat would he say about Cheney?
June 7th, 2006 at 12:45 pmMy brother was gay, my parents, grandparents, and most everyone in my family has been divorced (including me), and you know what? I love them all dearly, and they’re just as good and American as the Inhofe family. My family has never practicied blatant discrimination, never denied rights to fellow citizens, and never claimed to be holier than anyone else. Far as I can see, that makes them BETTER than the Inhofes.
June 7th, 2006 at 12:49 pmI’m yet another progressive from Oklahoma, and I am horrified by this man. I don’t think a lot can be done about this immediately, because our educational system has been in shambles for decades now. The best defense against this sort of nonsense is a decent education, which is derided here unless you can prove how it earns you some money.
June 7th, 2006 at 12:54 pmI tried calling his office, and I couldn’t get two intelligent words out other than to tell his secretary that it was an embarassment. I was so upset I was tongue-tied.
It doesn’t help much to say that not everyone here agrees with the likes of Mr. Inhofe. Unfortunately, things won’t get better here if reasonable people keep leaving, which they are in droves. Maybe that’s part of the problem though. Rather than stay and try to change things here, progressives leave and go somewhere else that they feel is more sympathetic to their point of view. That leaves people here with the same mindset, which means that people like Inhofe get elected.
Then again, who in their right mind would want to be around this all the time?
gtholkan:
I couldn’t agree more, but please do try to give the office a call again to ask for some clarification on these statements. They are going to insist that this was not a bigoted statement, so you might ask them if this means that it would be OK for a public official to say “I am proud that there are no Christians in my family.” My guess is that they would sputter, but it would be nice for them to have to spend some time defending this ass.
As a transplant from a more civilized part of the country (northern wisconsin), I have to say that staying here is tough. My family is part of a religious minority, and my 5 y/o daughter has already had fights on the playground with kiddies telling her that she is going to burn in hell forever because she doesn’t go to their church. Thankfully, my daughter knows a whole vocabulary to deploy in these kinds of situations that pretty much leaves those kids with their mouths hanging open. No complaints from other parents yet, but I welcome the conversation whenever it comes…
Hang in there.
June 7th, 2006 at 1:00 pmThis is why I don’t get gay republicans.
June 7th, 2006 at 1:08 pmIf he is really prepared to take a stand based on his beliefs, he should, on behalf of Oklahoma, refuse to accept any federal tax money that come from gay individuals, families with known gay family members, businesses that hire gays or anyone with gay family members, people that have been divorced, families that include divorcees, businesses…
June 7th, 2006 at 1:22 pmA picture is worth a thousand words. An idiot is worth a like number of laughs. The good senator’s eyes are a little too close together for me. Maybe no “homos” in his family, but I got a sneaking suspicion that some Okie cuzins are doing it!
June 7th, 2006 at 1:22 pmsome day, hopefully, one of those lost nukes that bush has failed to secure,will show up in D.C. WITH A LITTLE LUCK,IT WILL HAPPEN WHEN ALL OF THE ASSHOLES RUNNING THE COUNTRY,ARE IN SESSION. THIS IS REALLY THE ONLY WAY TO GET RID OF THEM ALL AT THE SAME TIME. BOTH PARTIES!
June 7th, 2006 at 1:26 pmIn fact, you Oklahoma progressives could Colbert this senator and barrage his office with demands that he put up or shut up. Gather together as a group of like-minded citizens and insist, with a straight face, that he implements bizarre legislation that takes his blatherings to the extreme.
And while you’re at it, see if you can get him to introduce legislation to send that damn Statue of Libertie back to those miserable Frenchies.
June 7th, 2006 at 1:33 pmSomehow it seems a new website has appeared:
June 7th, 2006 at 1:45 pmhttp://InhofeSucks.com/
Hogweed, excellent job with those idiots!
June 7th, 2006 at 1:46 pmJust had to comment that my Mother’s family arrived in Philadephia from Germany on July 26, 1745 and I have the genealogy for all the family since then. Yes, there were Native Americans in the early years but quess what, not one homosexual in this recorded historyin 260 years!!! I had a great-great uncle that never married (not that he was gay) but just never married. Kind of like Sen Lindsey Graham, 50 and not married.
I on the other hand am married, have a wonderful wife and daughter, and am gay but I see no reason to make a note in the margin of the genealogy book that says “GAY”. In fact, in all research I have done, I have never seen a “recorded history” of anyone being gay in any family.
What an insult to people’s intelligence. But then again, we are dealing with an idiot senator and sorry folks but he also from Oklahoma.
Hey,
June 7th, 2006 at 1:53 pmNotice he said “the recorded history.” How many families have had gay members and kept it in the closet. I deplore these bigoted assholes who pretend to be so pious and holier than thou.
I am a heterosexual black man, but resist the efforts to prejudge any, and all.
kjLovell,
Not so fast. David Boren, OU president, is a Democrat, former chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee, and, during his tenure in the Senate, was one of its most visible and respected members. He’s not one of the Inhofe/Coburn crowd. His wife, the former Molly Shy, is related by marriage to my brother. I’ve never heard any rumors among any of those folks that Boren might be gay. If that rumor had any legitmacy whatsover, he wouldn’t last long at the helm of OU. Even if he were, so what? Unfortunately, Boren was one of the last big Dems to come out of Oklahoma politics. Robert S. Kerr, known as the “King of the Senate,” and former Speaker Carl Albert, “The Little Giant,” were others. The fundamentalist element seems to have taken over much of that part of the country, including Texas (I reside near Crawford) which once produced some of the greatest Democrats of their time. Even the Southern Baptists, the largest protestant group in Oklahoma, have gone fundamentalist and conservative Republican. They were once a fairly liberal group among Baptists in the South. As a native of the state, I must visit there periodically to see relatives. It’s painful to see how narrow-minded and homophobic so many Okies have become, including my own mother. The Oklahoma City newspaper, The Daily Oklahoman, is one of the most politically biased newspapers in the country, even in the presentation of so-called straight news. The local T.V. outlets are no better. The book, “Whatever Happened to Kansas,” could just have easily been about Oklahoma. The author just happened to be a Kansas native. There are many nice people in Oklahoma, Texas, and Kansas, but I’ll never fully understand why their political thinking is currently so warped.
June 7th, 2006 at 2:01 pmWho actually cares? Oh, the 9% of “Rapture” junkies still delusional about reality… Gotta keep pandering to that “strong” base of theirs…
June 7th, 2006 at 2:04 pmThis sounds like an open challenge for a little investigative journalism, if I’ve ever heard one. NY Times? The Advocate? Rolling Stone? Esquire? Vanity Fair? National Enquirer? Star?
Any takers?
June 7th, 2006 at 2:11 pmOh, now I get it. Nobody of his ancestors or descendants can read or write. So there is no written record of gay family in his genealogy. Only fingerprints. And is hard to know if a fingerprint is of an hetero or not.
June 7th, 2006 at 2:12 pmI CANT TAKE IT ANYMORE!!! I am serious! This is so sick. Until nitwits like this, understand what being gay is, they will never change thier views.
June 7th, 2006 at 2:12 pmThese a**holes are unaware of the pain they are currently giving to yound kids who know they are attracted to the same sex and are struggling with it, pushing them further into the clost and depression. My god, what country do we live in. I knew when I was 6 yrs old, even though I had no idea of what sex even was..just like everyone else. This guy is sick! Call his office!!
Agree there are no doubt many skeletons in this man’s closet. Pedophilia, alcholoism, bestiality etc. have been mentioned as possible candidates. But keep in mind, homosexuality is not, not bad, not an illness, not a choice as are the latter, respectively. Nothing to be ashamed of, hypocrisy is.
June 7th, 2006 at 2:16 pm[...] As expected, the Senate vote on the constitutional gay marriage ban failed by 49-48, meaning it won’t even be formally considered as an amendment. It did, however, provide some illuminating hours of debate from various Republican senators including James Inhofe of Oklahoma who showed off a photo of his kids and grandkids and crowed, “I’m really proud to say that in the recorded history of our family, we’ve never had a divorce or any kind of homosexual relationship.” (Imagine being a closest case in that family.) And then there’s the perennial favorite, Pennsylvania Senator Rick Santorum who made it clear he thinks the gay marriage debate is still all about sodomy. [...]
June 7th, 2006 at 2:19 pmThe problem as I see it is I doubt that there is any legislation along these lines that would be too outlandish. Maybe if we show up and ask that his staff consider a “Leviticus” amendment that would make the world conform to that book of the Bible in its entirety, then we could succeed in ensuring that he ignore us. That’s the problem here, elected representatives feel that they only need to listen to people who elected them. If you express an opinion that they don’t like, they don’t need to listen to you because you probably didn’t vote for them anyway.
The media here is terrible, ignoring serious issues that need resolution immediately. (For example, we don’t even need to mention any BIG issues… Our roads here are the worst in the country due to graft, corruption, inept handling of public funds, and negligence. Chunks of overpasses fall off into traffic and kill people. Not kidding.)
I’d be willing to get together with other Okies to picket at Inhofe’s office. Any takers?
June 7th, 2006 at 2:19 pmHoly smokes. Nice way to embarrass your state, wasn’t sure if Oklahoma’s reputation for ignorant rednecks was bad enough yet.
Never mind he’s either lying, ignorant, or a statistical outlier; by which he’s claiming to be better then virtually everyone else who does have gays in the family, like the rest of Oklahomans and the leaders of his party for example.
Since Inhofe is doing his state so proud I should mention their unique IQ test and college entry exam in Oklahoma: if you stay in Oklahoma, you fail.
My condolences to better Oklahomans who are either unlucky or ignorant enough to suffer that fool.
June 7th, 2006 at 2:52 pmHasn’t he just made the case FOR gay marriage?
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June 7th, 2006 at 2:55 pmDick Cheney should be as ashamed as Inhofe is proud for letting one slip under his own roof then?
June 7th, 2006 at 2:58 pmCheck out the blond kid in the lower right-hand corner. MAJOR screamer.
June 7th, 2006 at 3:00 pmbtw, just that probably should have read “wasn’t sure if Oklahoma’s reputation for ignorant Okies was bad enough yet.”
Jeebus. When your state name has become common slang for ignorant white trash…
June 7th, 2006 at 3:04 pmI am proud to say that no one in my immediate or rish family lineage has ever been a politician nor related to a politician.
June 7th, 2006 at 3:05 pmPlease – he’s not half as proud of the fact that there’s never been a homosexual relationship in his family (does that merely mean an incestuous one) or a divorce in his family as of the fact that there’s never, in his family’s history, been someone who THINKS!
June 7th, 2006 at 3:10 pm[...] Click here to watch this ignorant ass. [...]
June 7th, 2006 at 3:10 pmAnyways, let’s not get distracted by this moron and his headline grabbing side-show freak.
Important issues like Net Neutrality and the Estate Tax are being debated this week.
June 7th, 2006 at 3:12 pmYes – I see the conflict that would be presented if he hired an openly gay staffer. The staffer would THINK – whereas Inhofe does not!
June 7th, 2006 at 3:13 pmIt is people like these who give credence to the notion that being from a Red State is equatable with being a bigot and an ignoramous. Soon he’ll claim he and all his family members have never knowingly commit a sin.
June 7th, 2006 at 3:22 pmI know you are not interested in what foreigners think, but have you stopped to think how ridiculous Americans look to the rest of the world?
June 7th, 2006 at 3:24 pmThe only reasons gay marriage is being discussed right now despite there being no chance an amendment will pass:
1) to grab headlines and distract moderates while Republicans cut the estate tax for the rich and gut Net Neutrality handing control of internet content management to private Telcos. In future internet streaming is going to replace movie rentals, TV, radio, phones, basically everything. That’s why cable and telcos are very worried and trying to tie up the internet now, to make sure they maintain control of content and remain the anti-competative gate keepers and king makers. It’s anti-trust, anti-neutrality, anti-free market, don’t be fooled. Not coincidentally, those billionaire barons of telecommunications aren’t too keen on the estate tax for ill gotten gains.
2) to pander to the small part of the country who still support these crooked Republicans on bigoted wedge issues so they can cut taxes and hand over public infrastructure to private interests and keep places like Oklahoma poor and ignorant, a perfect breeding ground for ignorant bigoted voters to support wedge issue.
June 7th, 2006 at 3:27 pmscrew him
June 7th, 2006 at 3:33 pm20 children and grandchildren! Breeder, indeed!
June 7th, 2006 at 3:54 pmRecorded history could also indicate they are as illiterate as he sounds.
June 7th, 2006 at 3:55 pmThe Senator is a very lucky man to have such a good family. I also have NO HOMOSEXUAL people in my family, this means my family as a whole. 1/3 peope are gay is a LIE strait from the pits of hell, there is NO SCIENTIFIC EVIDENCE that a person is born gay, thus meaning that they choose to live that way.
June 7th, 2006 at 4:01 pmwhy didn’t the good senator just quote Jesus on homosexuality, “an abomination,” and divorce. you know, not the New Testament Jesus but that Jesus of the Old Testament who advised us to throw the first stone because in the recorded history of my family we are without sin. That Jesus has authorized us to pass judgement on all the sinners. Did you hear what senator Inhofe’s nephew said to his cousin, “let’s go get stoned.”
June 7th, 2006 at 4:02 pmA yes, Rep. Inhofe, my favorite Republican bully. Why do the people of OK keep electing this a-hole to Congress?
June 7th, 2006 at 4:03 pmSenator James Inhope should be thrown out of the Senator, he is a disgrace to our country!!!!! I can hardle believe that we have someone like this
June 7th, 2006 at 4:06 pmin our Senate. He is a SICK MAN! WE DO NOT NEED SOMEONE OF HIS CALIBER
IN OUR SENATE! LETS SEE HOW HE MAKES ALIVING FOR HIS BIG.BIG FAMILY WHEN HE IS THROWN OUT OF OUR SENATE……WHAT IS HE QUALIFIED TO DO? LETS WAIT AND SEE……..
Kerry, he NEVER said that his family was without sin, see you stupid liberals always seem to upset me on so many issues, especially the Jesus debate. Jesus said, “If you love me, you will obey me” that means not living a life of sin, and giving your heart and life to him. Homosexuality is a SIN, but we are all sinners, only the blood of Christ can wash that away. All I can hope for is that one day you and people like Rafael will accept Christ as your Lord and Savior.
June 7th, 2006 at 4:11 pmHe is such a good “Christ Killer”. This guy has a special place in Hell awaiting him. Obviously this “senator” sees no other issues confronting his constituents. I am sure he is really in touch with the folks in Oklahoma.
June 7th, 2006 at 4:11 pmSnat Fe Chris, the only way this Senator is going to hell is if he is not a Christian, and after learning about this man, he is NOT going to go to Hell, bc he is saved by the grace of God.
June 7th, 2006 at 4:13 pmThis Senator is a phony fool. He probably has a homosexual boyfriend (Jeff Gannon?) ‘holed up’ somewhere. Afterall, he is from Oklahoma and an evangelical. I mention evangelical because studies show 62.4% of evangelical men are closeted homosexuals.
June 7th, 2006 at 4:16 pmJohnny, i would love to see that “scientific” poll about evangelical men. That study is a lie strait from the pits of hell, and you know it. NOT ONE study has EVER said that you are born gay, did you know that johnny??
June 7th, 2006 at 4:18 pm#219
“In Christianity neither morality nor religion come into contact with reality at any point.”
June 7th, 2006 at 4:21 pmFriedrich Nietzsche
Kerry, climb back under that rock. Go to the Terry Shiavo rally or something. Do you want a constituional amendmant to outlaw mixed-race marriages? Kerry? Should we go back to a segregated society and start burning suspected witches, again? Kerry? Are you still lurking out there with nothing better to do?
June 7th, 2006 at 4:21 pmThis is so sad. I can hardly believe it. Where is the justice? Where are our governments voices?
June 7th, 2006 at 4:22 pmGeorgia Man, are you talking to Kerry or me? bc you brought up a GREAT point. There is NOTHING wrong with inter-racial marriages, i happen to be dating a black female, and i am white. People are born black, white, or yellow, they can not help that fact, BUT they are not born gay. It is not a sin to marry a black girl, but it is a sin to have sexual relations with the same sex!
June 7th, 2006 at 4:25 pmIsn’t it sad that he calls a photo of his family a “prop.” Anything for political gain, I guess. Kind of puts me in the mind of old Phyllis Schlafly. Sure ate a whole lot of “eagle” when her eldest some John came out of the closet some years back.
June 7th, 2006 at 4:33 pmI just don’t see the point in disclosing this type of information to the public. I found it highly unnecessary for this to be known. If this was meant to be a proud moment for him, he should have rethought his actions. The results have only left him with looks of disgust from the majority of the nation. It is sad to see how this government that is based on serving the people only cater to a few voices and does no justice for us all. Who gave this man a microphone?
June 7th, 2006 at 4:36 pmHow sad that this man refers to his family as a ‘prop.’ Anything for political gain, I guess.
Reminds me of old Phyllis Schlafly until her eldest son John came out of the closet.
Between this guy and Ann Coulter, aren’t the Repubs showing themselves for the hateful people they are.
June 7th, 2006 at 4:39 pmI think the point is just because it’s in BIBLE I should follow it as a Law? Common sense should be the law not a person who wrote a book a thousand years ago. I don’t even see why this is a problem in the U.S., the land of Freedom………………….
Give me a break………………………..of that kit kat bar.
June 7th, 2006 at 4:41 pmScientific Evidence
Kyle, while I disagree with you cosmologically, I don’t like to write people off immediately. You say that 1/3 people being gay is a big liberal lie. While I’m fairly sure that the 33.333% figure is inaccurate, I’m also fairly sure that in the context of this comment thread, it was meant in any case to be a humorous swipe at Senator Inhofe, not a reliable source of information.
As to whether or not Inhofe is going to hell, well that gets back to our cosmological differences. I’m not a big fan of someone that will put bigoted foolishness ahead of the welfare of his/her constituents. The fact that we live in a pluralistic society, with people of many different belief systems and many different points of view in the world necessitates that we develop a flexible government capable of accomodating all points of view. It shouldn’t be the government’s place to tell people how to live, because there is no reason why a vocal and obstreperous group of people should dictate the details of people’s day-to-day lives. Vitriol won’t sway anyone’s opinion although it will certainly make you feel better. We are not interested in requiring Churches to perform gay wedding ceremonies, as churches are private institutions and their practices should not be dictated by the rule of law. At the same time, our government must accomodate people with views that differ from yours, even if you vociferously disagree.
In other words, you wouldn’t like it if Atheists gained control of the government and told you that you couldn’t worship Jesus by introducing an amendment that banned religion. This is why the system is set up as it is now, with the government responsible for civil and secular affairs, and the people responsible for their own beliefs.
Or maybe I misunderstand the whole issue. It’s happened before, I’m not infallible.
June 7th, 2006 at 4:47 pmThis is so typical as if it takes gutts to openly critisizes a segment of society with very little power. What a joke. We have millions of umemployed americans millions of uninsured americans a huge illegal immigration problem social security problems lobbying problems education problems energy problems environmental problems kids dieing in iraq problems the list goes on and on but here we have a guy who thinks he’s great because he’s not gay and as far as he knows no one in his family is gay and of course we’re suppose to believe he’s never cheated on his wife because they have been married for 47 years. Hello! Sen. James Inhofe (R-OK) is a prime example of why this country is quickly going to shit in a hand basket. For our nations sake please run these elitist out of Washinton next fall.
June 7th, 2006 at 4:48 pmSo in Inhofe’s mind , VP Cheney is a success for his campaign in Iraq where thousands of innocents have been killed. Billions of dollars of taxpayer money has been wasted and lost, and 2500 troops have died . But Cheney is a FAILURE for raising a lesbian daughter.
June 7th, 2006 at 4:51 pmSo does that make Dick Cheney unfit for the job of Veep? It sure does Jim – that’s what you’re implying. So how about the removal of Veep Cheney. Any takers? Perhaps that will be the best thing to come out of Terri Schiave 2.
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June 7th, 2006 at 4:59 pmCan’t wait to be voting Democratic in November, after a lifetime of straight-Republican tickets. What a sad-sad state my once great political party finds itself in by being hi-jacked by the narrow agenda fundies. Sad, truly sad. So here’s to a brand new day in our great country post-November.
June 7th, 2006 at 5:02 pmBoy it’s hilarious to see a few hicks like Kyle in here defending that swine Inhofe > Kyle has the same first name as that closeted CIA agent Kyle Dusty Foggo > maybe they are kissing cousins > lol.
June 7th, 2006 at 5:06 pmGTHolkan @ #197
The fact that his office and the media ignore the concerns of public is jest what this tactic is intended to address. If you can craft an issue that on its face seems to be a “reasonable” representation of the senator’s values, and get him to bite on it, when the truth comes out about it being a farce, the egg-on-face factor may grab some headlines. See story 1-2 weeks ago about DeLay’s website posting reference to Colbert interview as support for their position on… something I don’t remember at the moment.
Just another serious protest doesn’t seem to count for much nowadays, but pulling down their pants in public at least gets some media attention, if only in the blogosphere. Excite the progressive electorate through pointed and revealing humor. That’ll get me to the polls, anyway.
June 7th, 2006 at 5:09 pmWow Chaz, you dont think that the Gay lobby has power??? you are VERY WRONG, why do you think they have Gay Day at disney? or Gay marriages in Mass or SF??? it is bc of the GAY LOBBY, 15 years ago, this wasnt even an issue, but over those years, the Anti-God Gay lobby has grown and thus have became more powerful. And to GTHoklan, the truth is that the bible says who is going to hell or not, not man. And we do NOT live in an Athiest society so you can throw that crappy argument out the door. And if churches refuse to hold a Gay marriage service, you people will call them Bigots! and to that unsaved monkey fellow, the bible was written by Man under God’s supervision, that means that the BIBLE is 100% truth.
June 7th, 2006 at 5:09 pmHey Jay Randel, how does it make me a hick, that i am from a very suburban area, and i go to school at USF which is #18 on diversity and im dating a black girl, and i do not like the confederate flag. wow im such a Hick!! stupid closed minded liberal, annoy a liberal, work hard and be happy!
June 7th, 2006 at 5:12 pmPost 239 Kyle > go crawl back under that rock you slithered out from under! You are one sorry ass far-right idiot Taliban fool!
June 7th, 2006 at 5:14 pmIt’s useless to give someone scientific evidence if the person believes in the bible literally, because scientific evidence is elitist, and god put bones in the ground just to test our faith.
June 7th, 2006 at 5:15 pmI would like to have his crystal ball, or maybe balls
June 7th, 2006 at 5:16 pmLol Kyle you are dating a black girl my ass > you are a far-right religious wacko > rightwingers do not allow mixed relationships so stop your story telling on here!
June 7th, 2006 at 5:17 pmJay, my friend. I love how you like to use such academic language like “ass”, it really makes me feel like you are just too intelligent for me. And Monkey, good to hear from you, why should i take anything serioulsy from a person who call’s themself “monky”. So Monk, is it true that the Bible should not be taken literally? ok then we should just throw out everything Jesus says about faith, helping the poor, and how to get to heaven. If we do that, then anyone can get into heaven! wow you are soooo smart Monky!!!! nice, finally scientologist, Mormons, Muslims, and other people from false religions can get into heaven, you rock!
June 7th, 2006 at 5:22 pmDid any of you look at his myspace, he is chugging a corona down I believe. Oh wait!! isn’t getting drunk one the commandments or something. Now should we make drinking illegal?
June 7th, 2006 at 5:22 pm
Lol Kyle and by USF > are you meaning University of San Francisco? If you are in California, no way could you be this dumb on religion and the Bible! I am a 4th generation Californian by birth and you have to be a Oklahoma boy to defend Inhofe on here!
June 7th, 2006 at 5:26 pmLOL, Monky, there is nothing wrong with drinking beer. And that night i did NOT get drunk, but i must admit, im a typical college student so i do like to party and have fun. I am a sinner, as we all are, but im saved by the grace of God and my trust in the Lord. Making drinking illegal is the dumbest thing in the world, we tried it, didnt work.
June 7th, 2006 at 5:27 pmSomebody’s angry, and plus I’m an agnostic, and you should go get an education. I know but it’s for americans, but most people on this page can do it, and I believe you can too my friend.
June 7th, 2006 at 5:27 pmUSF is The University of South Florida, a great academic institution, that has some bad marks like Al-Arian lol
June 7th, 2006 at 5:28 pmI lived in St. Augustine and Daytona Beach for 20 years after leaving California, but South Florida is a bit strange for me > lol. Stay away from South Beach since you dislike Gay guys so much!
June 7th, 2006 at 5:32 pmJay, my friend, that is why California is soo in touch with reality!!! You guys elected Arnold, not a bad guy, but not best for the job, you also are way too enviromental, you seriously need to build some more plants, maybe if there are those hippie protesters you can run them over and build the plant over them!! But there are many good parts of Cali, such as the southern part, SD and Laguna area, which are not too liberal to say the least.
June 7th, 2006 at 5:33 pmKyle should we stone everyone who works on Sunday?
June 7th, 2006 at 5:34 pmI have no problem with Homosexual people, some are very kind people. I have the problem with the sin of homosexuality, i dont hate the sinner, i hate the sin. And Daytona is gross, But St. Augustine is nto bad.
June 7th, 2006 at 5:35 pmSee, could you slow down a bit when reading this stuff, please, Kyle? I never said that the government was atheist. I was giving you a “for instance.” I also never said whether or not the Bible said anything about who goes to hell. You’re right. The Bible does say who goes to Hell. But then the Egyptian Book of the Dead explains what happens in the afterlife, and Hindu texts explain how reincarnation and karma are supposed to work, and so on. If you want to get down to it, there’s a compelling argument that all of these texts and your version of the Bible were all written by the hand of man, with nary a Godlike being involved on any level.
This does nothing but reiterate my point. I want to live in a world where people are allowed to live their own lives their own way. You can worship at the altar or whatever it is you do, and I can not bother. Gay Men, Lesbians, and straight folk can marry and be with one another. This way we can all live how we want.
In what way will allowing gay couples to marry hurt you? Where is the harm? There is none.
I’m pretty much done here anyway. I agree with the folks who are saying that there are more important things being discussed right now besides this foolish amendment that will never pass. Net neutrality specifically worries the hell out of me.
June 7th, 2006 at 5:35 pmBoy is he sick…
R2K
June 7th, 2006 at 5:37 pmdont go anywhere folks, i will be back in 15 min, im gonna eat some dinner with the roommate
June 7th, 2006 at 5:38 pmKyle: Back in the day, you would have been spit on for dating a black woman, and ostracized from society. Back in the day, if you wanted to marry your black girlfriend, it was against the law. Back in the day, your black girlfriend got rocks thrown at her by whites because she was integrated into the white school system. Back in the day, your black girlfriend had to sit in the back of the bus, use a blacks-only public restroom, drink from a different water fountain than whites. Back in the day, your black girlfriend had to use the back entrance; she was not allowed to enter through the front door. The same people who are fighting mad that gays might be afforded the same rights as everyone else, are the same people who were fighting mad that your black girlfriend might have the same rights as everyone else. It’s bigotry, plain and simple, Kyle. YOU are bigoted against gays. You can trot out any bible reference that you want in order to validate your reasons for wanting to deny gay people their basic human rights, but in the end you are just a loathsome bigot. And I for one am sad for you. You think you’re going to “heaven” with that attitude of yours? HA! Think again, Kyle. Heaven is not a place that would welcome you and your ilk.
June 7th, 2006 at 5:40 pm“I’m so bored with the U…S…A!
I’m so bored with the U…S…A!
But what can I do?”
The Clash
Yep, the same old crap by the same old bigots. Nuthin’ ever changes.
June 7th, 2006 at 5:42 pmLOL I did not like Daytona Beach myself, but enjoyed living in St. Augustine! I am no fan of Miami if you live near there > too many people and too much crime!
As for California I had nothing to do with Arnold being elected Gov. …. Laguna Beach is very nice and liberal actually > lots of artists live there > sorry if you thought it to be conservative!
June 7th, 2006 at 5:43 pmWhat an opportunity for “Insert Caption Here” Contest. My entry:
“(cough), uh, Gramps….”
June 7th, 2006 at 5:43 pmSo, are you saying that you are Eastern Orthodox? You know, the church that was actually founded by Christ and his Apostles? See, cause as I understand history, during the Council of Trent, The Roman Catholics split from the Eastern Orthodox Church over the issue of whether or not Priests should be celibate. Which as I am given to understand it had more to do with keeping money out of the pockets of priests supporting families than it did with any legitimate religious reason. So, since that time, the Eastern Orthodox Church has been the only form of Christianity on the planet that could actually be considered Christian. If you’re half as serious as you’re posing to be, then you’re Eastern Orthodox. Otherwise, if Christianity is the way to go, then you’re going to burn like I am.
Read a book.
*BTW- If someone knows my facts are wrong, specifically regarding the Council of Trent or the goings on at the time, I would love to read more about it. Just point me towards it, and I’ll merrily read away.
Thanks-
June 7th, 2006 at 5:43 pmKyle you have a male college room-mate huh? Oh boy wait till he gets you drunk one night and has sex with you!
June 7th, 2006 at 5:48 pmWhat an arrogant statement to make. As if somehow not having gays in one’s family makes one’s family better than than those who do.
Doesn’t Congress have more pressing issues? Aren’t American soldiers being killed and wounded in a dubious war? Aren’t healthcare costs spiraling out of control? What of teen pregnancies? Rising energy costs? Record budget deficits and debt? Personal income not keeping up with corporate income? Aren’t these the REAL family issues?
I’m sure most people in this country are against gay marriage, but I think the real issue here for many gay couples may be having the same legal rights that married couples have.
BTW, in the past, Oklahoma has had great representation from likes of Bob Kerr, David Boren, and Ed Edmonson. Evidently, it’s been taken over by the right-wingnuts.
June 7th, 2006 at 5:48 pmPlease understand that not all people from Oklahoma agree with or condone this mindset. I was (unfortunately) born in this state, and currently live here after years of living elsewhere. Moving back here was due to necessary factors that did not include loving living here. My husband and I are daily sickened by the way of thinking here, and ashamed that people with the same opinions as Inhofe are making this state and their way of thinking a joke. Yes….we vote every single time the polls are open – and do our best to keep jerks like this out of office, but it seems that the majority of the people in this state have been ‘brainwashed’ by the conservative religious right. It is shameful that people like this make a state that is NOT all for idiots like this. Im ashamed to say I live here, and was born here. Someday we WILL vacate this twisted place and go somewhere else that doesnt spew hatred, bias, and discrimination. My hope is that someone can dig up some dirt on this guy and reveal him for the true jerk that he is!
June 7th, 2006 at 5:49 pmGTHoklan, first of all my belief is that your faith in Christ will save you not a faith in a church! Im not a member of the Eastern Orthodox or Roman Catholic church, I am a Christian, who attends a Baptist church or a non-denominational church(i go to one on sun, and one on thur). The Roman Catholic Church and Eastern Orth. are just denominations of Christianity!! just like the United Methodist Church and the Southern Baptist Convention. And Jay, in 2004, the county in Laguna actually voted FOR Bush, there is also a great church known as the Crystal Cathedral, with Rev. Robert Shuller close by,
June 7th, 2006 at 5:57 pmhere’s hoping that one of his mistresses comes out of the closet.
what a fool.
June 7th, 2006 at 5:58 pmInterestingly, none of his family has ever been attractive, urbane or refined.
June 7th, 2006 at 5:59 pmKyle should we stone everyone who works on Sunday? The bible says we should do it, so why arent you advocating that, since you take the bible so seriously?
I guess you don’t understand sarcasm either, and my name is monky not because I misspelled it, dope. If you still don’t understand why I spelled it that way, you don’t understand the idea of being creative.
Plus you talk about if we don’t put the bible as law, especially this idea of the bible
June 7th, 2006 at 6:00 pm“helping the poor”is gone, then why are repubs taking social services programs away?
Pinky the civil rights struggle for innocent african americans in the 1960’s have NOTHING to do with the current homosexual movement, many Black Ministers believe that
June 7th, 2006 at 6:01 pmi hope one of his mistresses is in on the phone with cnn right now.
what a fool.
June 7th, 2006 at 6:01 pmHow about incidence of sodomy within the Inhofe clan? Extramarital affairs? Lust in the heart?
What about levels of impotence? Depression? Mental illness? If the Inhofe family is the new model, can we get a detailed analysis of all it’s strengths and shortcomings?
June 7th, 2006 at 6:02 pmMy talking Bible says:
Book of Proverbs.
June 7th, 2006 at 6:03 pmWell MonKEY, helping the poor is the Church’s job in my view, but the gov should help out, i am actually a fan of universal private/public health care, i believe heath care is a right, just as education is. And when Jesus came to the earth, he changed things, he made it possible for sinners like you and me to get to heaven. Many things in the Old Test. are historical anyways.
June 7th, 2006 at 6:04 pmHaving lived in Oklahoma – I can attest to one unfortunate thing….
I have never seen so much man on man action as when I was living in Oklahoma.
It’s not called being gay down south, it’s called being drunk.
I got hit on by dozens of guys when we were all drinking….
June 7th, 2006 at 6:05 pm“I’m really proud to say that in the recorded history of our family, we’ve never had a divorce or any kind of homosexual relationship. Although Uncle George was very close to his pet hamster!”
June 7th, 2006 at 6:05 pmThe steers and queers quotation from “An Officer and a Gentleman” was in reference to Oklahoma. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0084434/usercomments, see also http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=land+of+steers+and+queers
June 7th, 2006 at 6:08 pmKyle: And what are gay people in this environment? Empowered? Gays are the new black, Kyle. Again, no matter what you say, you are wrong. I believe Black Ministers would concur. And we both know so many of them, right Kyle? Look, I saw your MySpace page. You’re a joke. You don’t deserve anyone’s attention here. You’re just engaging an “comical” frat boy behavior.
June 7th, 2006 at 6:12 pmSen. James Inhofe
Is wise to attack the Gay community. It detracts from the real evil he’s doing.
Inhofe was a co-plaintiff in a lawsuit filed by the Competitive Enterprise Institute in 2000, trying to bar the distribution or use of the National Assessment, which analyzed potential impacts of climate change on the U.S. The Bush administration settled the lawsuit with a statement saying that the report didn’t represent official government policy.
Source: “Earth Last,” The American Prospect, 5/7/04
What’s going on in Oklahoma? Just how stupid is this part of our nation?
June 7th, 2006 at 6:17 pmI think that this is the first time in my life that i have seen a Sin glorified soo much, you dont see a lobby for the alcoholic or the pedophiles. Listen Pinky, God loves you, the same way he loves me. Maybe one day, you will get on your knees and accept him as your Lord and Savior. And what is wrong with the whole college ?comical” frat boy behavior, bc people like me are the future!
June 7th, 2006 at 6:17 pmgay is the new black? that is really, really, really sick. That is offensive on so many levels I am not even sure where to begin, except to guess that the writer is obsessed with everyone else’s opinion of his sexual practices….
June 7th, 2006 at 6:21 pm“people like me are the future!”
Ahhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
“Get on your knees and accept him”
June 7th, 2006 at 6:22 pmhmm…………………WHat?
Thank you Hiway55
June 7th, 2006 at 6:22 pmFace it Monky, i do well in school, people love me out in the world of politics and business. I look good for the part, im tall, a striking looking fellow, im a safe person, im great at networking, you cant stop people like me. And i gave you a choice Monky, the blood is off my hands. When you stand before God, and he asks you that one important question, you can never say you didnt hear the Gospels.
June 7th, 2006 at 6:25 pmGay is the new black, i.e., gays are getting shit on right and left by this country, the same way blacks were. It’s not offensive, and sorry you took it that way. Gays are the go-to minority these days for the bigots of the world. Sorry you can’t see that.
June 7th, 2006 at 6:27 pmI’m really proud to say that in the recorded history of our family, we’ve never had any kind of relationship with any Inhofe.
B-)
June 7th, 2006 at 6:27 pmOnce again, great academic language Pinky (when you used the word “shit”). And you never answered my question.
June 7th, 2006 at 6:29 pmGood for you!!!! Do I care……………………
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Had the Senator said he is proud of being white, which he should be as everyone should be proud of their genetic background, would he be attacked as much? Yes, he would, because so-called “liberals” are the most closed-minded, racist people in America today. The man is simply stating what he is proud of. He is entitled to what he thinks, just as any of you are. What’s the problem with that? I thought you people were so “enlightened.” Crap, you all say the same thing and then compare us blacks to a sexual preference. Good lord.
June 7th, 2006 at 6:31 pmOk, take it as a joke, whatever, it is your life, do what you want.
June 7th, 2006 at 6:32 pmWhat’s going on in Oklahoma? Just how stupid is this part of our nation?
Not everyone in this part of the country (Oklahoma) is stupid….it’s a national disease. Just how stupid is Ann Coulter from Connecticut, Sean Hannity and Bill O’Reilly from New York City, Sen. McCarthy from Wisconsin, and then there’s that great intellectual from California that’s governor.
June 7th, 2006 at 6:36 pmQuesque tu voudrai moi dire pour………………………………. que Les idiote Americain dire ca: Im an awesome republican look at me, I love America, and I’m a perfect christian Blah! Blah! BLah!!!!!!!!!
Here, so can actually look at what you’re saying. Unbelievable………………………
June 7th, 2006 at 6:36 pmhiway55,
Do you actually believe that people should be proud of their genetic background? Why? You didn’t have anything to do with your genetic background. It isn’t something that you “accomplished”. It’s an aspect of yourself over which you had no control. Why should that be something to be proud of? I’m white, but I sure as hell am not proud of everything that white people have done in this country, especially on racial issues.
Maybe I missed something about the point you were trying to make.
June 7th, 2006 at 6:38 pmSo now the “open minded” are making blanket statements about Oklahoma. What a surprise.
June 7th, 2006 at 6:39 pmHere are the FACTS monky, I am a member of the Republican Party and the NRA. I am a Christian but NOT PERFECT at all, bc i am a human and i will never be perfect, until i join Jesus and all the other believers in Heaven. I never claimed to be perfect, but i am the freaking man, lol.
June 7th, 2006 at 6:39 pmYes, Wayne, I think you completely missed the point. You seem to assume that we can only be proud of things we have control over, which is illogical. You are not accounting for self-esteem (which is not surprising for a liberal though). I am not suggesting that by being proud of one’s genetic background, which is self-esteem, that you have to be proud of everyone else who has a similar genetic background, as well as everything they do. I did not suggest that in the slightest, but I am not surprised this is how you interpreted it. Sorry but I am not a commune member with you in this society – I am an individual and proud of it. I am not a walking sexual preference, (ie, the ‘new black’) and that is so offensive of some on here to try and say so.
June 7th, 2006 at 6:44 pm“Face it Monky, i do well in school, people love me out in the world of politics and business. I look good for the part, im tall, a striking looking fellow, im a safe person”
Really, you are not a perfect person, awwwww!!!!
June 7th, 2006 at 6:51 pmwell i didnt say i was modest lol
June 7th, 2006 at 6:53 pmOnce again, Kyle, you are a bigot. If the question you refer to is what’s wrong with people like you being the future of the United States, I say just read your own posts to find that answer.
June 7th, 2006 at 6:54 pmWow Pinky, you got trashed by Hiway55 and finally decided to talk to me again!!! good job. I love how you just call me a “bigot”, i have NOTHING wrong with african americans, asian americans, or any other different race in america. I have a problem with people like YOU equating the civil rights movement to the gay movement, it is just gross and offensive.
June 7th, 2006 at 6:58 pmWell, hiway55, perhaps I simply disagree with you. You said:
If by “genetic background” you were referring to something like “I am the great-great-grandson of the guy who did that really cool thing all those years ago”, that would be one thing. But being proud just because of the color of your skin? In this country’s history, some of the ones who claimed to be proud to be white did not always do things that would make other white people say, “I’m proud that I’m white.”
It sounds like you want to lump me in with all of the other views you’ve seen here today. I am also an individual, and my views are not always shared by others here. And I am not one of those who tried to somehow equate being black with being gay for purposes of some argument, like White House Press Secretary Tony Snow seemed to be doing the other day.
June 7th, 2006 at 6:59 pmIsn’t it bigoted to so easily label someone as a bigot?
June 7th, 2006 at 7:01 pmvery true Hiway55, if you think about it, all liberals are bigots
Upset a liberal, work hard and live happy
June 7th, 2006 at 7:04 pmI agree gay people are not oprressed as bad as blacksin the 60s, but you don’t think gay are, not made fun, excluded from jobs, and being excluded from associating with people, I’m sorry, but I have seen it in, and that is sad, for a country with so much freedom!!…………………………………………………………………………………………………….. Ya right, hypocricy is so fun to see. Thomas Jefferson said all men were created equal, and then looked at his slave and said…………………
June 7th, 2006 at 7:09 pmKyle: Bigots are gross and offensive. And yes, hiway55, it is easy to recognize and label a bigot, especially when they so freely post their thoughts here. Kyle, as far as your weak attempt to sound high and mighty about the civil rights movement (oh, the moral outrage!), we are indeed talking about gay people’s civil rights. A movement is a movement, young man. That you do not recognize the gay rights movement as a civil rights movement is your choice, and you choose to do that because you are a bigot. You and your frat buddy hiway55 can go haze someone now, or whatever it is that you boys do together.
June 7th, 2006 at 7:09 pmSnow did not do that and you know it, so spare the out-of-context quote. You don’t seem to me to understand basic self-esteem, you seem to think it has to do with accomplishment only. According to double-blind studies, many believe that is actually a male attitude, that any value only comes from action. I have a gut feeling, although I could be wrong, that you would tell an obese woman, or a black man that they should be proud of their bodies if you felt sorry for them but you would not say the same to a white man, ever, without fearing that someone would accuse you of being a racist. If I am wrong, then go ahead and tell a white male to be proud of their skin. But, the color of their skin is part of their genetic background, whether you like to acknowledge that, or not.
June 7th, 2006 at 7:10 pmKyle – I have found something that applies for all people in this country – working hard and reaping the rewards and happiness, and truly living well, is the best revenge!!
June 7th, 2006 at 7:12 pmWell Monky, everything is made fun of!!! even Gay people will make fun of themselves. I see being gay as a struggle people have like alcoholism or a drug problem.
June 7th, 2006 at 7:13 pmKyle, you have so much “knowledge” about gay people. You even equate homosexuality with alcohol and drug abuse. Thanks for that last comment. As if we here didn’t already know you were ignorant, that last post confirms it. Son, you need to do a little research on the subject of homosexuality. Clearly, you know nothing about it (or do you? wink wink). Again, you’re our future? God help the world.
June 7th, 2006 at 7:19 pmAnother dumb statment, can’t we do better than this bigot.
June 7th, 2006 at 7:21 pmkyle is another idiot.
June 7th, 2006 at 7:23 pmI was equating the sin of homosexuality to drug abuse or alcoholism or even pedophilia. I love how if a person disagree’s with homosexuality they are called a BIGOT and thus they must be secret homo, that is the biggest bunch of garbage anyone could ever believe. The lib’s seem to be VERY closed minded on many issues like this one. Pinky one day, i hope you find the right person of the opposite sex, so you can enjoy the great qualities of being normal, and not choosing to live that disgusting lifestyle.
June 7th, 2006 at 7:26 pmI think for some people being gay is similar to a struggle some have with alcoholism or drug abuse to the extent that denial is involved. I think there is some level of “self closeting” involved for some of them. I believe there are also people who hide or bury their sexuality with drugs and alcohol for a variety of reasons, most of which are ultimately personality disorders which should be tended to. In that sense I agree with Kyle. But in saying that, I would appreciate if others here would not assume that I believe all homosexuals are substance abusers, or that they should be or anything like that.
June 7th, 2006 at 7:30 pm“pedophilia”
That’s just stupid equating that to homosexuality. Here, ways to get closer to your GOD!!!
June 7th, 2006 at 7:32 pmI also agree with Kyle that lately there is too much of this “assumption” that someone who disagrees with homosexuality is a closeted homosexual. That’s become almost a cliche of the left wing.
June 7th, 2006 at 7:33 pmgreat comment, hiway55, you bring up a good point. My personal belief is that the sin of homosexuality is a personal struggle for those who are dealing with it. I was just giving examples of personal struggles such as alcoholism, to drive my point better.
June 7th, 2006 at 7:33 pmHomesexuality is sex between two consenting adults, and Pedopilia is where a grown man manipulates a kid into having sex with him. I don’t see the similarities, maybe you’re just an idiot.
June 7th, 2006 at 7:37 pmall liberals are bigots
Oh PLEASE. How stupid is that statement? It’s not the liberals that are trying to push passing a law against Gay Marriage – its our Humpty Dumpty President and his cronies. Most liberals are MUCH MUCH more tolerant than these brainwashed conservatives.
I contend (and I know already that many will jump in and disagree here) Homosexuality is NOT a choice! What person in their right mind would CHOOSE to be gay, to be ridiculed and shunned by a great percentage of the population. Would you want to be treated like we treat the homosexual? I sure wouldn’t and if I had a CHOICE it sure would not be to chose a life of rejection, isolation, ridicule, and a few gazillion other descriptions I won’t take the time to type out. I firmly believe that people are BORN homosexual and have no more say-so in their sexuality as a heterosexual does. It’s just the way it is.
Furthermore all you So-Called Christians that want to impose their own homophobia to persuede people to believe that it’s horrible to be homosexual…..JUST remember that God also created the homosexual. He loves them just as much as he hopefully loves me and you. Do you think God made a MISTAKE when he created homosexuals? If so then you are saying God is imperfect!
June 7th, 2006 at 7:38 pmThe more I see stuff like this the more I think Darwin was excessively optimistic.
June 7th, 2006 at 7:39 pmMonky – I would agree, except you define pedophilia as something a “grown MAN” does. Legally women are subject to pedophilia laws as well, and over the years we have seen plent of women pedophiles who has done terrible things to small kids. I am sure you would not deny that, but I have to note that you jumped to the “MAN” word probably without even pausing to think about it.
June 7th, 2006 at 7:41 pmWhat about an Hermaphrodite, what
June 7th, 2006 at 7:43 pmdoes god say about them, huh? Are they going to hell, Goofball?
Tex – LMAO!! I hope I can borrow that phrase someday….
June 7th, 2006 at 7:43 pmYou are way wrong Linda, YOU CHOOSE to be a homosexual. You bring up a great question, why would anyone choose to be gay, why would they want to be ridiculed? my answer is, do alcoholics and drug addicts choose to be that, and they are ridiculed by the society. And please, put your universe unitarian crap away, linda, God did not create homosexuals, man created this sin due to his separation from God! There is NOT ONE SINGLE piece of scientific evidence that states that you are born gay.
June 7th, 2006 at 7:45 pmWhy yes, it is ever-so-obvious by looking at that photograph of a gigantic, lily-white Wonderbread Southern family that nary a one of them has ever engaged in ungodly homosexual conduct or contemplated divorce. Praise Jeezis and God bless the United McStates of America.
…and please pardon me while I go throw up.
June 7th, 2006 at 7:47 pmWell, I’m sorry most men are pedophilies, which is why I refered to a man, I guess I’m a bigot then though, right.
June 7th, 2006 at 7:48 pmSo, Inhofe’s quotation was awesome. It made my day…best quote of the year! It just shows how hateful the right wing of the GOP is, the part of the Party which is now in control of its agenda. The only sad part about is that his kids and grandkids…one of which is surely gay, will have to deal with that hatred from their father or grandfather. Actually, the other sad thing about it is that despite that quotation, Inhofe is probably the more liberal and tolerant of the two Senators from Oklahoma. Which is actually kind of amazing. It’s a pretty close call, but I think Tom Coburn has him beat in the battle for who can be Fred Phelps’s own personal American Idol.
June 7th, 2006 at 7:49 pmLinda – yes but there are obviously thieves, murderers, and rapists in this world too? If you are a christian, then it seems you would have to accept that either A) God made a mistake, or B) thieves, murderers and rapists need to take responsibility for their actions, or C) it’s all good in the long run, even though painful at certain given moments.
June 7th, 2006 at 7:51 pmKyle, and your intellectual doppelganger hiway55, you have much to learn. You’re young. The sin talk, the comparing gays to substance abusers, and the rest of your dialogue on this subject is immature. It’s high school level at best. So, I’m guessing this is your first year in college. At 18 years of age, you don’t know anything. We were all 18 once, so we all know where you’re coming from. As far as your belief that the two of you fully grasp the gay situation, well, I’m sorry, since you’re not gay, you don’t. I think when you mature, you’ll regret the position you’ve taken today.
June 7th, 2006 at 7:51 pmMonky – well, I guess you are a bigot then. How are you even sure that most pedophiles ARE men, and even if they were, what difference would that make?
June 7th, 2006 at 7:52 pmLOL – I’m really “proud” that nobody in my family is a brunette.
June 7th, 2006 at 7:54 pmMost of them that I have seen on the tv are, and I’ve never seen many women, GOD!!!!, When is the rapture coming, so you can leave, and mabey the muslim fundamentalist will go too, so there will finally be peace on this world.
June 7th, 2006 at 7:56 pmPinky – well, look at this we have Tom Steinfeld up there throwing up because he does not like white southerners. How tolerant is that? I would suggest it is not, and I doubt he truly knows anyone from the south. In the meantime Pinky, I am far from young but flattered that you think I am for some reason. I also have far more years of education included doctoral degrees than I should have ever attained because years ago I learned the meaning of being over-educated and under-paid.
I have read your posts, and others will here too, and it is clear that you are closed-minded and have an “agenda” in mind. That’s fine. Just keep your assumptions off my body.
June 7th, 2006 at 7:58 pmPinky – and why do you assume all here are over 18?
June 7th, 2006 at 8:03 pmPinky, i am actually a 21 year old Senior at the University of South Florida, my major is Political Science, minor is International Studies. Oh no!! that might mean im an evil NeoCon!!!! The fact is that YOU need more education, I knew this fact, when i read about you equating black rights to gay rights. I took Southern Politics last year, and we discussed that and my professor said “Black rights and gay rights have NOTHING in common, many civil rights leaders of the 1960’s do not agree that gay rights are the same as black rights!” that is from my great professor.
June 7th, 2006 at 8:06 pmKyle, please don’t use apostrophes in words like ‘disagrees.’ Words that are simply plurual don’t need apostrophes.
You sound like you worship the god of hate, and, well, maybe you do. That is unfortunate. But, truth-be-known, scientific evidence for homosexuality being innate is far more abundant than say, scientific evidence that man created sin, due to his separation from [your] god.
Please. Do you also believe the world is flat, and that all this global-warming talk is a bunch of baloney?
June 7th, 2006 at 8:08 pmhiway55–That’s a laugh. Keep MY assumptions off YOUR body! Too much. For all your years of higher education, my friend, you still sound completely immature and ignorant. However, since you are a “scholar,” rather than base your opinion of homosexuality on your feelings/religion alone, why not do a little research on the topic. You’ll see that your assumptions are very, very wrong. Are you up to a little reading on the topic? You might find it eye opening, as long as your mind is open. Since you are so very well educated, I will assume you are open to learning and discovering the error of your thinking.
June 7th, 2006 at 8:08 pmKyle, do yourself a favor while in college: don’t wallow in ignorance. If you choose to wallow in ignorance, transfer to a university in Oklahoma.
June 7th, 2006 at 8:12 pmPinky – Well, okay. You seem to know what I base my feelings about homosexuality on. Okay.
Now, please respond to the following inquiry:
When have you ever asked me to identify my sexuality, and what is it? You would have to absolutely know the answer to that in order to support your prior comments. Go ahead, take a guess, and be careful about assumptions sweetie!!
June 7th, 2006 at 8:13 pmI was really nauseated at the smarminess and pompous-assness of plastering that self satisfied perfect family image beside its pompous little rich boy family jet (that poor Oklahomans no doubt paid for) so everyone could compare their poor pathetic humanly flawed families with.
June 7th, 2006 at 8:13 pmThat is just so darned “Chrstian” that I think Jesus might just feel he can call off the resurrection ’cause this country is obviously in such holier than thou lily white straight rich smug judgmental hands.
And I couldn’t help but sense that the “honorable” Senator looks alot like alot of middle aged gay guys I see around San Francisco
Lorek, I dont normally use apostrophes when i am writing on a casual blog, now when i am writing a paper, Microsoft Word changes it for me, that is one great thing about technology, it does great grammatical work!!! I was just telling you what Paul stated about sin in his letters to the churches. That is good enough evidence for me my liberal unsaved friend. I believe in the God of love, “For God so loved this world, he gave his only begotten son” john 3:16. So i do not believe in a God of hate, but i do believe God hates sin. And he hates the sin of homosexuality, not the sinner’s.
June 7th, 2006 at 8:15 pmLorek – What is your problem with Oklahoma? I don’t live there, I live in Oregon. Fine. But hope someday you are stuck there for a night or two and rely on those citizens for hotel, meals, rental car, airline pilot, police force, physcians, etc etc.
How closed minded of you……………
June 7th, 2006 at 8:15 pm“great professor.”
So, if you’re great professer told you to stick your finger up your ass would you do it….
June 7th, 2006 at 8:16 pmWell he is a fellow of the Heritage Foundation, so if i could get an internship…..JK
June 7th, 2006 at 8:18 pmMonky – I am not sure who that last comment was intended for….
June 7th, 2006 at 8:20 pmSo does this mean that he supports an amendment banning divorce, or banning anyone who has been divorced from remarrying?
June 7th, 2006 at 8:21 pmSean – what does divorce have to do with gay marriage? There is a history of divorce back to common law. What does it have to do with gay marriage?
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June 7th, 2006 at 8:26 pmPlease don’t let this idiot rule the day , we have far to many problems that need our attetion . This person is just a person like all of us , he has no special powers and will end up a pile of bones when it ends for him . So do the right thing and get him out of office .
June 7th, 2006 at 8:32 pmRepubs just use homosexuality to distract people from real issues, like healthcare and poverty in Africa(Globalization).
So christians would support a ban on marriage, but then let repubs allow corporations to take advantage of workers, let Africa die off, while invading an oil rich nation for what reason, Freedom!!!!
June 7th, 2006 at 8:42 pmHow does he know this for sure? If anyone in his family were gay they would have to be closeted. One thing for sure, he isnt. No self respecting gay man (even closeted) would look like that.
June 7th, 2006 at 8:44 pmHe’s probably an old queen anyway!
June 7th, 2006 at 8:51 pmsigned,
Dougee and yes I am gay. Proud to be PHAG!!!
hiway55 — Well, sweetie, you seem to be anti-gay based on your comments, so I’m going for heterosexual. If you are gay, well, then I’m sorry you hate yourself so much. Somewhere, back several posts, you also took umbrage to people assuming that since you’re anti-gay, you must be a closeted homosexual. That’s all the Agatha Christie time I have to devote to your sexuality, and frankly, don’t know why you put that challenge to me anyway. Neither you nor your buddy Kyle have answered the question as to when you will be studying up on homosexuality and learning that your conclusions about gay people are patently wrong. Go ahead and read up on it now. You’ll learn a thing or two. If when you are done reading up on the subject, and you still feel the same way you do today, then you will have learned another valuable lesson about yourself this time, and that is that you are indeed a bigot. If instead, you learn that being gay is not a choice, but biologically predetermined in the womb, and you then follow the gaining of that knowledge with growth as a human being in learning that you were wrong to have been prejudiced, then I will celebrate the person you become. Learn. Knowledge is power.
June 7th, 2006 at 8:53 pmConsidering the social status of being gay in history, “recorded” means diddly-squat.
June 7th, 2006 at 8:53 pmPinky, i am actually a 21 year old Senior at the University of South Florida, my major is Political Science, minor is International Studies. Oh no!! that might mean im an evil NeoCon!!!! The fact is that YOU need more education, I knew this fact, when i read about you equating black rights to gay rights. I took Southern Politics last year, and we discussed that and my professor said “Black rights and gay rights have NOTHING in common, many civil rights leaders of the 1960’s do not agree that gay rights are the same as black rights!†that is from my great professor.
June 7th, 2006 at 9:02 pmKyle, 21 is still very young. You are still very green. Again, you’re pushing the black movement/gay movement not being the same. We differ in opinion on that. Your “great professor” has opinions as well. As you mature, you will learn that just because it came out of a professor’s mouth (after all, professors have their biases and prejudices too) does not make it so. Independant thinking is the hallmark of a mature adult. One day, you may get there. Right now, all you do is blather on about what you’ve been told. As I told your friend hiway55, get out and do a little reading up on homosexuality. Talk to some gay people. Learn something about the topic before you dare to think you can discuss it in an open forum such as this.
Okay Pontius Pilate.
June 7th, 2006 at 9:02 pmokay, now I am David Duke? Wow, I really thought the Democrats believed in tolerance and free thought. Thanks for suggesting those books though. Oh wait, you didn’t. My guess is, you have still not read any, but you are searching for titles and will be loaded with them in your next post. Thanks for your patronage.
June 7th, 2006 at 9:07 pmoh good.
the holier-than-thous are here to tell us what’s right and what’s wrong.
that’s right, if we don’t “put an end” to all this gay stuff, the gay militias will secretly take over america and turn us all gay.
wonderful. so nice that you disgustingly twist and pervert the teachings of jesus christ. what cowards you are.
i’ve got a bit of advice for you, morality enforcers:
June 7th, 2006 at 9:07 pmif you get what you want, you’re looking at civil war II.
if you trash the constitution, you will be my enemy and i will not stop fighting you until you are destroyed.
re: 245
Faith has nothing to do with believing in the Bible. I believe in Jesus Christ, I certainly do NOT believe that the Bible is anything other than a bronze age set of myths.
What Jesus said about caring for the poor and so forth are EXACTLY the things that are forgotten by fundamentalism. My parish and other like minded progressive parishes DO care for the poor, and work together to alleviate homelessness and racial inequality. Of course we ALSO SUPPORT GAY RIGHTS AND MARRIAGE. In this area at least, the more conservative the parish, the less they do for those less fortunate and the less devoted they are to an end to racism and the ushering in of a just society. The Pentecostals in particular — only even offer a meal if they get to try to convert someone.
It’s pathetic.
Regards,
Reynolds Jones
June 7th, 2006 at 9:08 pmSchenectady, NY
Pinky, I am young, but that means NOTHING!! I am an educated fellow though, let me quote Aristotle “The educated differ from the uneducated as much as the living from the dead.”
June 7th, 2006 at 9:11 pmReynold’s are you really a Christian? When did you accept Christ as your Lord and Savior?
June 7th, 2006 at 9:13 pmPardon me? Your tolerance has nothing to do with Mr. Duke not being in “jail” unless as a member of the “thought police” you were being generous somehow. Look go ahead and force your views on everyone for all I care. In the meantime I have the best reward, I live well. And, I am pretty sure you have no idea what “literacy skills” actually means; otherwise you would not have used that particular term.
peace
June 7th, 2006 at 9:16 pmKINSEY!!!! that guy is a perverted FAG, are you serious, that man has NOTHING TO DO WITH SCIENCE! The University of Indiana should be ashamed
June 7th, 2006 at 9:17 pm#378 – “When did you accept Christ as your Lord and Savior?”
what, are you the god police or something? is that what’s next?
produce your papers so we can verify your godliness!
June 7th, 2006 at 9:22 pmwhat a horrible place fundamentalists are turning america into.
Kyle – not every gay man is a “fag” or a pervert or a child molester either in my opinion. I know gay people who are more devoted to their partners and children than straight people. We have agreed on some things here but I will not accept your conclusion that all gay people are perverts, and I would hope you are above that as well. I am almost thinking, in fact highly suspectful, that you are an agent of Ms. Huffington’s here and just trying to stir the pot. Of course, if Huffington would shut her pie hole, Californians might be able to hear themselves think now and then.
June 7th, 2006 at 9:23 pmjesus loves it when you call people fags. it’s so christ-like.
June 7th, 2006 at 9:23 pmactually, im not, i just got a little upset at the Kinsey comment, Dr. Kensey was a pervert who was just trying to go agaisnt his “christian” father. To all i offended, i am sorry. Mrs. Huffington is quite possibly one of the most out of touch with american ideals as anyone, i mean she isnt even a pure american lol.
June 7th, 2006 at 9:25 pmKyle – and I should have been more clear before, I am not assuming that you conclude all gay people are perverts, I am just saying I hope you would not make such a conclusion. But if you do, then fine. Free speech rules, and your speech should be protected.
June 7th, 2006 at 9:26 pmyes, like in psalm 22, when jesus said, “my god, my god, why have you forsaken me, you fag?”
June 7th, 2006 at 9:27 pmProgressaurus, please, i was wrong about my statement, you DONT have to follow it up with a BLASPHEMOUS comment
June 7th, 2006 at 9:30 pmI stand at the lower left hand corner of god. Is that bad????
June 7th, 2006 at 9:32 pmI am from Oklahoma and I would like to apologize for this Jackhole. I didn’t vote for him. Our elected officials pander to the right wing religous base. The understanding of homosexuality as part of the human condition is not grasped here. So to anyone who has to listen to Inhofe or Coburn for that matter I apologize. Not all Oklahoman’s are that way. In truth most of us could care less as long as the Sooners are winning.
June 7th, 2006 at 9:34 pmI believe that M&Ms created the earth, and skittles are demons, who are trying to get you to taste the rainbow, and leading you to “skittle hell” filled with rainbows.
June 7th, 2006 at 9:35 pmBan Skittles……………………………!!!!!!
June 7th, 2006 at 9:36 pmFunny you bring up how the Sooners are winning, they didn’t have the best season last season, but don’t worry AP will be better this upcoming season. How do I know this, my own Father is from Oklahoma. He graduated from OU in 1963, he was in ROTC, then he became a Captin in the Army, fought in Vietnam, and retired in 1984 as a Lt. Colonel. Now my father also has his masters in Nuclear studies, my father is a very smart guy, and a CONSERVATIVE!!! oh know, maybe we should listen to this Retired Lt. Colonel Vietnam War Vet. who is agaisnt gay marriage.
June 7th, 2006 at 9:39 pmCaptain, spelling error
June 7th, 2006 at 9:41 pmYou spelled no with know…..
June 7th, 2006 at 9:44 pmWell when im typing so fast, i dont have spell check on this blog, so things may be grammatically or spelled incorrect. Unfortunally i grew up in the “spell check” era lol.
June 7th, 2006 at 9:46 pmA little inbreeding, but absolutely NO SWORD SWALLOWERS OR LESBIONICS.
Great accomplishment, senator
June 7th, 2006 at 9:55 pmHe graduated from OU in 1963, he was in ROTC, then he became a Captin in the Army, fought in Vietnam, and retired in 1984 as a Lt. Colonel. Now my father also has his masters in Nuclear studies, my father is a very smart guy, and a CONSERVATIVE!!! oh know, maybe we should listen to this Retired Lt. Colonel Vietnam War Vet. who is agaisnt gay marriage.
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Eh – It’s about our Dad’s – OK -my Dad served in WWII got a silver star & two purple hearts. Had to cut off his best friends arm to try and save his life. Raised 9 kids and has lots more grandkids that Inhofe. He loves his lesbian grandaughter and supports her having the right to marry. As I do my niece.
June 7th, 2006 at 10:14 pmWe’re proud of her – and proud that as far as we can document the history of our family – we’ve had no incidence of Inhofe’s amoung us. Whew!
sure i don’t have to blaspheme, but i can, so i will. your statements are as offensive to me as mine are to you. the difference is that i actually believe in your right to say what you want. but you cloak yourself in some supposed superiority of christian faith, all the while belying that faith with your slander, hatred and vitriole. i’ve got news for you: this is america, where if i want to blaspheme, i’m free to do so, according to the bill of rights.
ain’t it a wonderful thing? in america, people like you can’t tell me what to do. and as i said before, if you want to change that, i will fight you until you are destroyed.
besides, blaspheming is a hell of a lot of fun. and certainly an american pasttime. here in australia (where i live currently), americans are called one of two things: yanks or goddamns. yanks is obvious, but why goddamns? because us yanks are always saying it! wow, america, the so-called “christian nation”, whose citizens are known in the rest of the world for how zealously and frequently they take the lord’s name in vein.
ironic, isn’t it?
and food for thought, morality enforcers:
June 7th, 2006 at 10:17 pm“in every country and in every age, the priest has been hostile to liberty. He is always in alliance with the despot, abetting his abuses in return for protection to his own.â€
Thomas Jefferson
I am proud to say there is no recorded history of any Okies in my family.
June 7th, 2006 at 10:21 pmLooking at the picture of the Senator “pure” family, I can’t help but noticed all the kids. The sad thing is that there’s a pretty good chance one of those poor kids is gay and just got this message of “pride” from his/her grandpa.
June 7th, 2006 at 10:28 pm[...] I am moderate in terms of politics however, with the recent introduction of constitutional amendment to ban gay marriage I have to say that I am extremely disappointed by the government role in such a personal manner. I ask that any of you out there reading this blog entry look at the list below, and see if your Senator is on the left or the right. If they are on the left then please write an email to your Senator (Find your Senators email address here) and let them know that you don’t believe in bigotry in our most sacred document. Only we, the people, can make a difference. Oh and while I am at it, this is the reason I am ashamed of Oklahoma: Inhofe ‘Very Proud’ There’s Never Been a Homosexual Relationship in the ‘Recorded History of Our Family’ [...]
June 7th, 2006 at 10:35 pmCome on gang, if it’s true there’s no divorce in his happy and prosperous looking family, then that’s a laudable and singular acomplishment having something to do with morals, or decency, or somesuch. That’s a truly impressive part of his boast. I wouldn’t expect him to even recognize a gay family member, what with them passing all that Dorothy code around. And besides, manly Oklahomian men understand: men can have sex with men, but that doesn’t make them queer, which is a sort of self-identity disorder of some kind, i think. In New York.
June 7th, 2006 at 10:36 pmbye Kyle > yep you might someday be the next Kyle Dusty Foggo of the CIA who had to resign for poker parties with hookers > lol.
June 7th, 2006 at 10:37 pmShall Mary Cheney now be burned at the stake?
http://www.sunstateactivist.org
SSA EXCLUSIVE INTERVIEW WITH DEMOCRATIC CANDIDATE FOR GOVERNOR OF FLORIDA U.S. REP. JIM DAVIS:
Hear his response to the gay marriage debate.
http://www.sunstateactivist.org
June 7th, 2006 at 10:51 pmstevenwarren,
i’ll bet it has as much to do with repression and shame as it does morals or decency. grandstanding like this man is doing has nothing to do with decency.
there is a thing that many pious people know called humility, incidentally.
June 7th, 2006 at 10:58 pmRumors of a Inhofe family homosexuality test
June 7th, 2006 at 11:00 pm[...] Well, that means a whole more month of idiotic comments by members of Congress and more excuses for the Orthodox Union to enable worker oppression & other disgraces in the name of cheap meat. [...]
June 7th, 2006 at 11:22 pmThere is no history of divorce or homo acts, but there sure is history of sister bangin’ and brother bumpin’.yee haw!
June 7th, 2006 at 11:27 pmMan, am I ever ashamed to be an Okie.
June 7th, 2006 at 11:39 pmWow, I am proud to state that not one of my family has ever been a alien. Or has a higher degree, or has sex with anyone out side our family(love you daddy) how is your daddy? Oh daddy, oh daddy. I’m off.
June 7th, 2006 at 11:48 pmI’m very very proud, that in the recorded history of my family , there are no bigots, and jackasses, religious delusionals, and no KKK members …no idiots either.
June 7th, 2006 at 11:54 pmLol post 421 I needed a good laugh tonight!
June 8th, 2006 at 12:03 amKyle the only guy who may come onto you is your male room-mate at the college in Florida! One night he might get you drunk and the rest is sexual history > lol. Chill out Kyle > Jesus knew how to be cool!
June 8th, 2006 at 12:19 amYou’re annoying, and nobody loves you, neither your dog, and you should go kill yourself.
June 8th, 2006 at 12:24 amNo you’re not going to heaven, kyle, you are too much of a bitch, and we don’t like bitches in heaven, sorry.
June 8th, 2006 at 12:27 am[...] I like Senator James Inhofe. INHOFE: As you see here, and I think this is maybe the most important prop we’ll have during the entire debate, my wife and I have been married 47 years. We have 20 kids and grandkids. I’m really proud to say that in the recorded history of our family, we’ve never had a divorce or any kind of homosexual relationship. [...]
June 8th, 2006 at 12:28 amyou are calling me a bitch??? how am I a bitch??? im not a female dog???
June 8th, 2006 at 12:29 amAnd you’re not funny either. Just because you do a goofy snicker after your joke like bush, and then people laugh you. People don’t think you are funny, they think you’re retarded. You’re never going to be a politician, you are going to die wacking off to one of your mag’s. That’s my plan for you little young one.
June 8th, 2006 at 12:35 amThat just show’s you how out of touch with God, my generation has become.
June 8th, 2006 at 12:43 amand we will eventually have gay marriage, i do not doubt that.
June 8th, 2006 at 12:44 amMaybe he did, but he did eventually become president, which i would NEVER want to become. Rush is a great man, and anne coulter, ahhh i think that she is a little nutty for me, but my buddy who is a Marine is in LOVE with her.
June 8th, 2006 at 12:49 amYou are out of touch with reality, you think god exists.
June 8th, 2006 at 12:50 amWell, my friend, I have taken the high road on these arguments, see I think that Hitler has used some of the same arguments that you have used. The fact is that you are prolly some 45 year old guy who never completed community college who is upset bc people like me are going to be sucessful. See I bet you have many problems in your personal life, that prayer will solve. So you know what, i will pray for you tonight, and that you come to know Christ as your Lord and Savior.
June 8th, 2006 at 12:56 amLOL, shall we bring up the Kennedy family??? talk about NUTS, your buddy Ted killing innocent women, and his son driving drunk!!! I was raised in a very nice household, my father works for a big government military contract company, he works on the radar part of the Missil Defence System, aka star wars. My mother doesnt have to work, my parents drive both drive a Lexus, so I am upper Middle class. I come from an all american family, my grandfather was captured by the germans at the battle of the bulge, and he then went on to work as a Geologist for Exxon. Dont tell me about my family, you dont even know me!
June 8th, 2006 at 1:01 amLOL, shall we bring up the Kennedy family??? talk about NUTS, your buddy Ted killing innocent women, and his son driving drunk!!! I was raised in a very nice household, my father works for a big government military contract company, he works on the radar part of the Missile Defence System, aka star wars. My mother doesnt have to work, my parents drive both drive a Lexus, so I am upper Middle class. I come from an all american family, my grandfather was captured by the germans at the battle of the bulge, and he then went on to work as a Geologist for Exxon. Dont tell me about my family, you dont even know me!
June 8th, 2006 at 1:01 ammissile- spelled incorrectly i was typing too fast, no spell check on this darn thing!
June 8th, 2006 at 1:02 am“i will pray for you tonight”
Go ahead talk to yourself, you go have a ball, but some people call that crazy, huh.
Hitler maybe was a atheist, but loved the right winged protestants in germany, he called the catholics evil because they defended people. Does that sound familiar here in America. WHo are those people, Fundamentalists bapists in the south, and they oppose gay people, call them evil, and say it is against god. You sound more like hitler to me.
June 8th, 2006 at 1:04 amThe Catholic Church is not evil at all, let me ask you this, why have every state that has put this question on the ballot, not voted to make gay marriage legal??
June 8th, 2006 at 1:12 amI did comment about that, the whole Kinsey thing.
June 8th, 2006 at 1:14 am“LOL, shall we bring up the Kennedy family??? talk about NUTS, your buddy Ted killing innocent women, and his son driving drunk!!! I was raised in a very nice household, my father works for a big government military contract company, he works on the radar part of the Missile Defence System, aka star wars. My mother doesnt have to work, my parents drive both drive a Lexus, so I am upper Middle class. I come from an all american family, my grandfather was captured by the germans at the battle of the bulge, and he then went on to work as a Geologist for Exxon. Dont tell me about my family, you dont even know me!”
The Kennedy family family has done so much more than a thousand times as much as yours that you don’t want to go into that.
They have their flaws, too. Ted has not killed “innocent women” – one woman tragically dies in an accident which you don’t know the details of, including how much he drank, including how much in shock he was, etc. He’d just lost his last brother a year before. You lack any human compassion for wanting to consider any possibility of extenuating circumstances.
Laura Bush killed an innocent young man by running a stop sign in a clear area on a sunny day. George Bush had multiple drunk driving arrests making him as worse than Kennedy in his negligence, but lucky in not having the accident which actually killed one or more people.
The wealth of your family as you describe is makes you a prime *target* of the Bush administration, not anywhere near the elite wealthy he serves.
June 8th, 2006 at 1:19 amLol Kyle get off your high horse > with Dubya Dunce Decider in the White House for 2 1/2 more years there will not be any new jobs for you young college boys, so forget the success part but Bush will probably draft you as cannon fodder for his war on Iran, unless your daddy in the defense plant has connections to Cheney to exempt you like his daughters! Take care and may you find the real Jesus someday!
June 8th, 2006 at 1:25 am“my father works for a big government military contract company, he works on the radar part of the Missil Defence System, aka star wars”
so, you’re saying he’s a failure. that system is a bloated, revenue-draining pet project that doesn’t work.
and your grandfather worked for exxon – that great company that helps to subsidize terrorists and keep americans ignorant about how oil is screwing their lives and american foreign policy as the number one national security problem.
that’s a great pedigree there, spawn of military-industrial complex. no wonder you don’t seem to be able to express thoughts of your own. god sure loves the defense industry and the oil industry. hasn’t been a war in the last 80 years without those two on board!
the way you talk about yourself is laborious, self-serving and has the tenor of a 16 year-old at cheerleader tryouts.
good that you brought up the kennedy thing. that’s code for “i’m a koolaid drinking wingnut whackjob!”
next you’ll blame clinton and the cycle will be complete.
June 8th, 2006 at 1:31 amThis guy Imhofe tried to suck my cock last week on the Metro. He thought I was a lobbyist.
June 8th, 2006 at 2:41 amKyle is a sheep, and I gave him a list of cool ways to kill himself. Maybe he will follow up on that.
June 8th, 2006 at 3:00 amHe’s my uncle and I am as queer as a 3 dollar bill.
June 8th, 2006 at 5:22 amHey everyone, stop saying that he must be gay. What an insult to gay people everywhere.
June 8th, 2006 at 7:47 am[...] Torontoist spots an asshat parking his H2 in a handicapped parking spot. The Star says Bob Cole needs to retire from calling hockey, and I agree. He should take Harry Neale with him. Still with The Star, Ben Rayner asks if Radiohead is overrated. Not a chance, sez I. Finally, two links from Yes But No But Yes: super cuteness and super ugliness. [...]
June 8th, 2006 at 8:10 amHard to stomach but easy to believe that Inhofe spouts such jibberish.
June 8th, 2006 at 8:27 amWow, 20 grandkids. He should get the County Fair eugenics award. BEST GENES IN BREED! Breed out the sin!
June 8th, 2006 at 9:52 amPerhaps there have been no homesexual relationships in his family’s recorded history, but how about in the family’s ORAL history!
June 8th, 2006 at 10:43 am“in the recorded history of our family, we’ve never had a divorce or any kind of homosexual relationship”
Thats because they just started recording yesterday.
June 8th, 2006 at 10:45 amI think what the Senator said and his reason for saying it was stupid,but the looneytune reaction to it from the so called “open and honest” drops down to idiotic.
June 8th, 2006 at 11:15 amThere is some lowbrow crap being uttered here.:-(
This guys probably a lawyer and parsing his words.
Notice that he says RECORDED history.
How many families do you know, that record every detail of every marriage or sexual relationship in their family history?
June 8th, 2006 at 11:49 amJuly 1999, The Advocate reported that Sen. Inhoffe’s office computer crashed and during repair and maintenance was found to be loaded with internet porn downloads, hence the crash…Doesn’t anyone remember this?
June 8th, 2006 at 1:14 pmI have done the research and found MANY Inhoffe gay relatives.
1-Rosie O Inhoffe, Started gay family cruises back in the 60’s to Fire Island, N.Y.
2-Will and Grace Inhoffe live in W.Los Angeles and have many cats.
3-Truman Capote Inhoffe, wrote…Rear Window to the Republican soul
4-Bruce Inhoffe, Interior decorator in Tulsa OK, specializing in trailer parks.
and of course
5-John Wayne Inhoffe, Childrens birthday clown.
June 8th, 2006 at 1:32 pmSo Mama / sister/ aunt and daddy / uncle / brother never got divorced huh?
June 8th, 2006 at 1:34 pmKyle — I knew it wouldn’t take long before you started using the word “fag.” You really called yourself out on that one. Yet, I recall much earlier on you were “offended” when the word “shit” was used. Now, now, Kyle. As you’ve stated herein, you find the use of foul language by others to be unacceptable. Please apply that same rule to yourself. As far as your blathering on about whether or not people have accepted Jesus (like the rest of the religious zealots out there it seems to be your only argument), not everyone practices your religion, my friend. So, that argument is specious at best, and frankly, it makes you look like you don’t know what you’re talking about. While in college and preparing yourself to become “our future” (since you’re quite confidant you’ve got the right stuff and the world is going to be ready and waiting for you when you graduate [other college graduates posting here can shed some light on this young man's prospects, degree or not]), you might want to learn something about the country you live in: The United States allows people freedom to practice whatever religion they see fit. YOUR religion is not the only religion, and everyone does not have to worship YOUR god or for that matter believe in YOUR bible. It’s yours, and I support your 100% belief in it, but I do not support you trying to shove it down everyone’s respective throats. Similarly, you are free to believe that “fags” (as you refer to gay people) are sub-human. Others, however, do not share your beliefs. Others believe that gay people should have the exact same rights as everyone else. Others believe that gay people should not be turned into second class citizens by this government intervening and writing rules that deliberately limit a gay person’s civil rights. Gay people are entitled to every single right (including marriage) that heterosexual people are entitled to. Gay people live in this country, pay taxes, abide by laws, etc. the same as heterosexuals. Gay people should not be discriminated against in any way, by anyone, especially by the government of the United States. Discrimination is wrong. You cannot defend discrimination, not even by invoking the name of Jesus Christ. Who would Jesus Christ discriminate against? If you believe in Jesus Christ so very, very much, please answer that question.
June 8th, 2006 at 1:49 pmHey! Wait! That dude in the red shirt in the back blew me one time!
June 8th, 2006 at 2:18 pmPinky, good to hear from ya again. First of all, the word “fag” can deal with many things, i call my roommate and my friends “Fags” all the time, it doesnt mean that they are gay. Also, Jesus stated “If you love me, you will obey me” that means not falling into the sin of homosexuality. If Jesus, walked into a Gay Day Parade, he would prolly overturn the tables and tell you homo’s that what you are doing is against God.
“While in college and preparing yourself to become “our future†(since you’re quite confidant you’ve got the right stuff and the world is going to be ready and waiting for you when you graduate [other college graduates posting here can shed some light on this young man’s prospects, degree or not]), you might want to learn something about the country you live in:” (Pinky)
I am going to make it in this world because, people generally LIKE me, let me tell ya something, I am getting far in my life, not only bc of my education, but because of the “cool” factor. I am a very popular figure when i am around people, people seem to come to me, just because they love to hang out with me, bc I am so fun. The people who are not making it have NO SOCIAL skills, my social skills are some of the best you can ever see.
“YOUR religion is not the only religion, and everyone does not have to worship YOUR god or for that matter believe in YOUR bible. It’s yours, and I support your 100% belief in it, but I do not support you trying to shove it down everyone’s respective throats.”(Pinky)
My faith is the ONLY TRUE faith, that whole “many paths to God” is a lie strait from the pits of Hell. Budda, L. Ron Hubbard, and Mohammad are not going to save your soul, they will just lead it strait down to the pits of Hell. I try to evangelize bc JESUS said to!!! the worst thing i could do was just sit back and not tell you that you are not doing what is right, bc i Love you. I love everyone in this world, if I hated you Pinky, i would just sit back and let you live your life. But as a Christian, i must tell you about the Good news of Christ, and how you are a sinner and must repent of those sins, and accept Christ as your Lord and Savior. I want to see you in heaven when i get there Pinky.
June 8th, 2006 at 2:31 pmI’m sorry to say this is MY representative in DC……believe me he is as weird as he seems…….in fact his own family can hardly stand him and there has been a long ongoing feud between his brother and himself……so I’m really glad he is holding up his family as an example……what a joke……I want to sue for taxation without representation NOW.
June 8th, 2006 at 3:05 pmPaula Womack
Tulsa Oklahoma
I looked at the video. The family has definitely had some trouble with bad sweaters.
June 8th, 2006 at 3:10 pm“people generally LIKE me”
Oooooo wow!!! are you class president, but when you get out in the world not everyone will like you, that’s what reality is, OK!!!. Look no one here likes you, we think you are a Dumbass, so leave please.
Look in the mirror, you’re not asian, ok!! If you don’t get that you should die.
June 8th, 2006 at 3:28 pmJuly 1999, The Advocate reported that Sen. Inhoffe’s office computer crashed and during repair and maintenance was found to be loaded with internet porn downloads, hence the crash…Doesn’t anyone remember this?
Comment by Taz Hawk — June 8, 2006 @ 1:14 pm
Taz, you know I think you’ve hit on something here. I vaguely remember that incident being reported in the news. Any links to substantiate this? If in fact this is accurate this might just be the icing on Inhofe’s stupid comments. I’d like to delve deeper into this matter!
June 8th, 2006 at 4:11 pm[...] Think Progress » VIDEO: Inhofe ‘Very Proud’ There’s Never Been a Homosexual Relationship in the ‘Recorded History of Our Family’ [...]
June 8th, 2006 at 5:23 pmKyle:
I have found your comments hilarious. You love people so much that you want to save them from the wrath of your loving God, who plans to torture them for all eternity while you stroll in the daisies for all eternity. Now that is theology. It sounds to me like your God is something like a cosmic Saddam Hussein — willing to give you all kinds of great stuff if you suck up to him, but have in independent thought in your head and you get brutally tortured. Yeah! The Good News!!!! The people who don’t think exactly like us, regardless of how good they are, will be burned for eternity by our wrathful sky-demon!!!
You seem very concerned that there is — you claim — no scientific evidence that some people are born gay. Well, there is no scientific evidence that your invisible sky deity exists, no scientific evidence that your poorly-written collection of Hebrew folk tales has any relation to reality, and no scientific evidence that you have anything resembling a “soul.” Really, if your deity guided the writing of the Bible, then why is it so poorly-written? Why can’t your deity write as well as Shakespeare? Well, because he doesn’t exist, that’s why. Oh blasphemy!
Since you are so sure that all other religions are false, I am curious who you studied these other religions with. When did you study the Koran, and with whom? How well-versed in the Vedas are you? Have you really understood the meaning of the Lotus Sutra? Surely to take such an adamant stand on something so very important you have really thoughtfully examined all other religions with an open mind, looked at your own beliefs with a critical and reasoned eye, and questioned everything. Right? And you still believe the Bible despite all that?
If you are so offended by same-sex marriage, why don’t you do what the rest of us straight people do — get married to someone of the opposite sex? Gay marriage is not obligatory, you know. Strange, but this is something that my 6 year old daughter has a far better grasp on than you seem to have.
I am glad that so many people like you, despite your preaching, holier-than-though-torture-glorifying-bigotted-claptrap. Just keep in mind that that is not permanent. You being oh so good looking is not permanent either. The truth is, no matter how much you seem to think that people liking you is going to get you somewhere, I can guarantee you that it may make you a wonderful used car salesman, but probably won’t get you much further than that.
June 8th, 2006 at 5:27 pmThe Koran!!! that poorly plagiarized version of the bible!!! i did take World Religions, where i did study parts of the Koran, I especially loved reading the book called The Cow, it is great to see that those terrorist, love to claim that if you are born retarded, it is God punishing the parents. Hogweed, you are def. not a Christian, so im not surprised to see that you think that the Bible is a book of fables. Have you ever even been to church??
June 8th, 2006 at 5:45 pmI find it very, very sad that people feel the need to control other humans and push their thoughts and views on them. I, being a pagan, have a very difficult time in school whenever I say the Pledge of Allegiance or try to talk about politics with my friend, who’s father is a very conservitive Christian. Many kids in my school are very religious, many get upset with me or refuse to talk to me because of what I believe in.
Also, the US First Amendment clearly states ‘Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.’
Note the ‘Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion…’ part. Why do Republicans and other conservatives try to bring religion into the mix whenever we talk about gay marriage and other stuff? America is not ‘a Christian nation’, and never will be as long as people respect the Amendments.
Kyle, why are you trying to force your opinions on us, saying that we will go to hell for not believing in your specific religion? Why should you ‘pray for our souls’? Is our religion not good enough for you? What are you so afraid of, that you have to smother us in your beliefs, try to convert us into you ‘holy religion’. If Jesus was here today, he wouldn’t say ‘Don’t be gay’; he would say ‘WTF is being done in my name? And WTF are people saying I said!’ Are you a member of that church that I read about that is stationed in Topeka? You know, the ones that say ‘God Hates Fags’, or ‘If you support fags, you’re a fag yourself’? Because I really don’t doubt that you are. But, what you do and what you believe in is none of my business whatsoever. Just like whoever people love or whatever people worship is none of yours.
But back to the Sen. Inhofe issue, why does he do that? He puts a huge picture of his family up, and says in front of many, many people, that he is proud of his offspring because they are following his teachings, being good little people. I really feel sorry for them, they might be screaming for release on the inside, but they are afraid of rejection and shaming their father/grandfather.
I know it’s all a control issue, but it still upsets me very much.
June 8th, 2006 at 5:45 pmyes, im pretty sure that Jesus, would use the “f” word. Do me a favor Duckzilla, get an education and dont get stuck in a community college. Are you really a Pagan??? do you really pray and worship Pagan God’s??? let me tell ya, that Sun God is being totally mean to the world, i mean with global warming!! LOL. God does NOT hate FAGS, God loves the world, and he loves you and me, THE SAME. Hey Duckzilla, read John 3:16, and then get back to me. I do not consider myself to be a Catholic or a member of that church in kansas, i consider myself to be a CHRISTIAN!
June 8th, 2006 at 5:52 pmBack to the matter at hand, a heart-felt apology to the nation, from those of us stuck in this state, for the actions of our elected federal officials. What once was a hotbed of progressivism now approaches Utah for its conservatism. Even the Ds elected here would be considered nothing more than moderate Rs, if that, in my old states, Illinois and Indiana. Every R that runs for office here tries to out-conservative the other candidate in his/her TV ads. If you are not pro-life or pro-family, then forget it. That the extremist Tom Coburn was able to beat a conservative, yellow-dog D, Brad Carson, in the 2004 election speaks volumes about what’s going on here. I can only pray that our “conservative” D governor, Brad Henry, survives this November, because he’s the only thing keeping this state from totally sinking into the abyss. The state is brainwashed by the previously-mentioned dominate newspaper, which also is in cahoots with the state’s most powerful television signal. There is no hope of getting rid of any of these elected officials until they decide to retire, or get greedy and try to run for a higher office (like Istook is, for governor), or do something so massively reprehesible morally (as defined by Oklahoma standards) to be repugnant. The only thing that can happen positively is for the Ds to reclaim the Senate and defrock Inhofe of his majority chairmanship on the Environment and Public Works committee. That way he would be less effective in killing off any and all reasonable environmental legislation, even though most of the companies he represents now voluntarily participate in the same cap-and-trade emissions systems that McCain and Liebermann are trying to enact nationally. He also would no longer be able to parade “scientific experts” like Michael Crichton to the witness stand to promote his “global warming hoax” thesis. Look at where Oklahoma ranks nationally in education, divorce, out-of-wedlock births, meth busts, smoking-related deaths, etc., and you can understand why its citizens elect the people they do. Ignorance is powerful.
To those of you playing the Bible card, do you really think that Jesus would behave in the way that people like Inhofe do, in the name of God? If you are wearing your “WWJD” band, think about what it really means.
June 8th, 2006 at 6:14 pmKyle — Good bye.
June 8th, 2006 at 6:17 pmCloud,
That newspaper you mention I assume is the Oklahoman. Im not sure how well known this fact is, but the founder of that newspaper himself – has an openly gay son that the family hides away in a far away state so he isnt an embarrasment to the family with all their religious fundamental opinions and influence with political views in OK with the powers that be. While they profess to be these holier than thou folks (Like Inhofe) they hide their son away and never mention him – & support him nicely while he enjoys fun in the sun!
June 8th, 2006 at 7:27 pmkyle “closet” cotner is just another christ-bot.
such a religious zealot, yet he only seems to know one passage – john 3:16.
well, mr closet, chew on this for awhile: Jesus nowhere says that his followers must become members of a religion that he gave not the slightest hint of founding and of which he gave no evidence of knowing or even envisioning.
jesus never once asked his followers to become christians — not once. he asked them, rather, to follow him, a jew. the evidence of the gospels is overwhelming on this point: jesus the jew asked his followers not to become christians, but to become the kind of jews god always intended them to be: doers of justice, lovers of kindness, and those who walk humbly, rather than arrogantly and self-righteously, with their god.
if jesus actually wanted to be worshipped, he didn’t deserve it, just as no one who desires to be worshipped deserves it…we typically deride such people as megalomaniacs.
which leaves the distinct possibility that jesus didn’t actually want to be worshipped.
so in worshipping christ, you are either worshipping a self-obsessed megalomaniac, or you are worshipping a humble person that would loathe the thought of people missing the point of his teachings in favor of his deification.
in effect, you are worshipping the messenger, and defiling the message.
in christ’s name we kill,
June 8th, 2006 at 9:16 pmamen
Kyle:
Of course I’m not a Christian, and I am really very proud to say that there are no Christians in the recorded history of my family.
Oh boy, a World Religions class at a mediocre university. And you read a whole book? Certainly enough knowledge now to understand why your sect is the sole repository of the truth. Since you have done such a thorough investigation of other religions and found them wanting, can you please explain to me the meaning of the “Skillful Means” chapter of the Lotus Sutra? What exactly are your objections to Madhyamike-Prasingika? Clearly you are seeing something lacking there that I am not.
Oh, and that scientific evidence on the existence of your deity would be welcome, too, as would some explanation for why he writes so poorly.
Thanks! I look forward to receiving your wisdom! After all, you have taken *a whole class* called “World Religions”!
June 8th, 2006 at 9:42 pmi just want to do my part…
June 8th, 2006 at 10:38 pm…to make sure this thread…
June 8th, 2006 at 10:39 pm…which is a condemnation of colossal bigotry and small-mindedness…
June 8th, 2006 at 10:40 pm…reaches 500 comments — a testament to what a homophobic idiot and disgusting idealogue james inhofe is!
and i am proud to report that there are no homophobic bigot senators in my family!
June 8th, 2006 at 10:43 pmwhat?! you mean he’s also a hypocrite?
i just can’t believe it. and he seemed like such a principled guy.
June 8th, 2006 at 11:11 pmfor a bigoted ideologue.
Christ also said “I am the way, and the truth, and the life; no one comes to the Father but through Me.” John 14:6. That means that no one comes to Heaven with God, but through his son Christ.
June 9th, 2006 at 12:37 am[...] Sen. James Inhofe (R-OK) “debating” an anti-same sex marraige ammendment on the Senate floor:”… my wife and I have been married 47 years. We have 20 kids and grandkids. I’m really proud to say that in the recorded history of our family, we’ve never had a divorce or any kind of homosexual relationship. [Excerpted from: http://thinkprogress.org/2006/06/06/inhofe-gay-marriage/ [Documented at: http://thinkprogress.org/2006/06/06/inhofe-gay-marriage/ [...]
June 9th, 2006 at 1:06 amhey, “closet” cotner’s back!
didya ever wonder if christ was making that statement for the benefit of everyone else, and not himself? because otherwise he’s just a megalomaniac cult leader, is he not?
repeat after me: i am the way, and the truth, and the life…now please put on this track suit and tennis shoes.
June 9th, 2006 at 1:38 am“heaven”
June 9th, 2006 at 1:40 amwhat a quaint idea.
apparently “closet” cotner only knows the book of john…
there’s this great thing about the bible, “closet” — for every quote you have that backs your argument, i can find a quote that refutes it. it’s one of the most inconsistent historical documents in existence.
but great fiction, really.
June 9th, 2006 at 1:44 amObviously some people don’t have that much to brag about. I hope he discovers his great-grandma’s passionate love letters to and from another woman in the attic.
June 9th, 2006 at 7:05 amoh those poor, poor homosexuals! Has America lost it’s friggin mind?? gay “marriage” is a joke. Open minded? so open minded the brains have fallen out on the pavement with a resounding splat.
June 9th, 2006 at 9:59 amGay marriage is a sick ploy to get America to accept the homo lifestyle. There is no need for gay “marriage” anymore than there is a need to legitimize beastialty or bondage.
“tolerance” that is the mantra and main prayer of the sicko left is the evangelical cry of liberal crusaders everywhere. Except there is one problem for them. America rejects gay “marriage”. Oh sure i some places like Taxxafaggachussets and San Faggcisco the wingnuts want it but in the real America we politely ( for now) request all fags please return to your little closte and shut the hell up.
come on leftards and homophiles defend your sickness.
why the suprise at not having sexual deviants in the family. research shows that out of normal population only 2-3% are homosexual deviants.
June 9th, 2006 at 10:09 amyou use the word homophibia like it is a dirty word or something. Straight folks who disdain homos are not the ones with the problem! Typical of the lunatic fringe to portray the normal people as the ones with the problem. WE aren’t the ones engaging in fagness and coprophagia (look it up Einstien).
Homosexuals don’t need marriage they need serious therapy. The ones that push for the ridiculous concept of gay marriage need to educated and then punished for effort to corrupt and ultimately destroy civilization.
Kyle:
Ok, Ok, I’ll slow this down a little for you, because you obviously have some problems with things like reason and logic, and your general knowledge of how the world works seems to be that of, well, a spoiled middle-class white kid who got in to a mediocre university simply because he is a spoiled middle class white kid.
So, you say:
Christ also said “I am the way, and the truth, and the life; no one comes to the Father but through Me.†John 14:6. That means that no one comes to Heaven with God, but through his son Christ.
This is what you know have to do:
1. prove to me the existence of your invisible, vengeful yet benevolent sky deity who loves everyone oh so much that he is willing to torture them for eternity if they don’t love him back. You know, the kind of thing any good “Father” would do to his children. Citing some Hebrew folk tales to support your argument won’t be adequate here — that would be like citing the website of the Flying Spaghetti Monster as proof of his noodly existence. If you can manage to do that (a peer-reviewed article in any major scientific journal would at least give me something to grab onto, and so far you have given me nothing but citations from a book whose author didn’t even bother to sign it) then we can move on to #2.
2. prove to me that he “wrote” or somehow divinely inspired the awkward collection of contradictory stories of smitings, begettings and vengence that you keep citing here. This also is a tall order. This is not a well-written book, and you still have to deal with the fact that Shakespeare could write a whole lot better than your invisible friend. There are alot of people who say that he wrote other books, so I would also need you to show that he one that you are referring to is the one that he actually “wrote” and that the others are somehow forgeries. And simply saying that a book like the Koran *must* be a forgery because it came later is not going to cut it — maybe your sky demon was just pissed off (something that apparently happens with him quite a bit) that someone was claiming he wrote a book, and he decided to exact his vengence by writing one himself. Convince me.
If you can do that, let’s move on to #3:
3. I had a neighbor once who, while tripping on acid, suddenly put together the facts that his father is a carpenter named Joseph and his mother’s name is Mary. You can imagine who that obviously makes him. Prove to me that he isn’t. He does have long hair and a beard, after all, and far more improbable things (like virgin birth) happen all over the place in your book of folk tales.
So, there you go. I await your response. You haven’t been able to tell me why other religions are wrong yet other than by citing your own religion — that is a tautology (look it up). I have really stooped low here, and since you haven’t managed to tell me what it is that is false about any other religion, I’ll just let you prove that yours is true rather than having to prove that all the others are wrong.
At the end of the day, this is something that you should have done long ago. You are not a little kid anymore, regardless of how sheltered you obviously are. I guess that I could respect you a little more if I thought that your beliefs came from an exhaustive and honest questioning of the fundamental question — who, what and why you are — but it appears that you are easily impressed by authority and simply embrace whatever someone that you like tells you. If your sky demon really does exist and things go as you say, when you meet him up at the pearly gates I doubt that he will be very impressed by the depths of your faith. According to your own beliefs his son suffered terribly for you, and you can’t even do so much as take the trouble to honestly examine your own beliefs. That, comrade, is laziness.
June 9th, 2006 at 10:15 amChris:
Wow, someone is really concerned about what their neighbors do in the bedroom. I wonder why that is? Does allowing gay people to get married threaten your own sexual identity so much? Will it destlroy your marriage because all you would be able to do is think about what is going on next door? Are you afraid that your marriage will end because of gayness? My oh my, that is a concern.
And, by the way, I live in Oklahoma, about as far from the coasts as you can get.
I am sure that there are plenty of things that you do that would disgust me if I knew about them. But I guess I don’t feel too threatened by that. I wonder why you feel threatened by what such a small percentage of the population is doing? Can’t get it out of your head?
June 9th, 2006 at 10:22 amOh dear God, another homphobe!
Dear Chris and Kyle,
I feel very sad at the thought that someday (if not already), you will pass your genes and thinking to your spawn (kudos to them if they escape). America is a country that people think of as a free country, not some machine run Christian country. But unfortunately, that is what many people believe.
Just because you think homosexuality is a sin does not mean it should be shoved in a small, dark corner in an attic (or as you said, a closet). The way you write (is almost illegible) just screams ‘I am ignorant and I will say it loud and proud!’ You, my dear sir, are the one who needs therapy. Do you stop other ethnicities and religious groups on the street and tell them they are stupid and below you?
I am a firm believer in equal rights for everyone. Just because some Bible-thumping ignorant jerk got his panties in a bunch does not mean that we should listen to his every word!
Chris: Homosexuality is not on the same level as bestiality and pedophilia. It is the same as any heterosexual relationship!
Kyle: Who the heck said I worshipped a sun god? My goddess does not really have a figure, but She sometimes appear to me as Mother Earth. If you don’t like that, I don’t really care.
June 9th, 2006 at 10:40 amWell said, Duckzilla. While I don’t quite share your worship of the goddess, I can definitely say that I have in fact seen the Earth, and she is very beautiful. I invited Jesus to dinner once (inviting him into my heart seemed a bit, well, you know, “gay”) but he was a no-show. And here I had cooked a wonderful meal of fish and bread — his favorite!
June 9th, 2006 at 10:46 amI am NOT concerned with what anybody does in their bedroom. I did not bring up anything about bedroom partners the gays did. Once again you are trying to demonize someone for YOUR values. I they would have stayd in their bedrooms and clostes there would be no problem. By trying to legitimize their deviuant actions by pushing so called gay “marriage” on the normal world THEY brought the issue up. Normal Americans would not have brought the issue up I assure you. If gays want to persue their lifestyle choices in private then I guess they have the right to ( thanks again SCOTUS for nothing).
June 9th, 2006 at 11:08 amHomosexuality is not the same a s heterosexuality. That is why it is spelled different. Hetero and homo are different. Heterosexuality is the natural normal way of life. homosexuality is the ultimate narcacism. The ultimate manifestaion of our selfish culture and times. Homosexuality , since ok’d under force at the gay lobbies pressure on the phsycological association in the late 60’s has slowly oozed into normal society. Now kids can’t spell, can’t do math and graduate High School unable to find even Europe and China on a map but the sure as hell know what homophobia is.
The folks here defending sexual deviancy are a sad commentary on America. With evangelical zeal worthy of a snake handling preacher they espouse and even force their beliefs on an unwilling country and push homosexuality on kids without their parents consent. I guess ya homos have to recruit ‘em young eh?
Nothing anyone can say to me will change my mind that homosexuality is an errant behavoiral choice, sick and just plain wrong. The majority of the country agrees with me.
Chris:
First of all, I am not gay, so I am not “pushing” anything on you. You seem to share the odd fantasy that gays are somehow out “recruiting” people — a fantasy that really seems to get your engine running. I wonder why? Do you know anyone who was “recruited”? Do you have something that you would like to share with us that might enlighten us to just what a threat to us straight people these gay recruiters pose?
Yes, I am sure that gay people having sex has magically caused children to lose the capacity to spell or understand a map. Because, after all, prior to just a few decades ago, you know, back when everyone could read and there were absolutely no men having sex with men or women with women, life was just grand. Gayness is *so* new!
If the idea of gay marriage is so abhorent to you, I suggest that you don’t have one. I personally find plenty of things abhorent, so I don’t do them. Of course, I don’t obsess about them either. But you seem to fantasize about all the big, strong gay recruiters that are out to get you. I wonder why that is? Why are you so obsessed with this “deviancy” that you freak out whenever someone reminds you of it? Oddly enough, I really don’t find the sexuality of my gay colleagues and friends threatening to my marriage. Try as I might, I just can’t get worked up about it, and neither can my wife. What is it that gets your mind so agitated about this — I seem to be missing your point.
June 9th, 2006 at 11:34 amOh, and the whole “the majority of the country agrees with me” must give you goosebumps to know just how right you are. By the way, the majority of the country agrees with me that the Iraq was was a mistake, the majority of the country agrees with me that this president is terrible, and the majority of the country agrees with me that we should have universal health care. So, I suppose that this convinces you of those positions, no?
June 9th, 2006 at 11:37 amgayness has been around since time immemorial i am sure. but it has been kept suppressed and hidden rightfully so beacuse the general consensus by society was that it is , disgusting, deviant, and harmful to society itself. You may not be pushing gayness ( that in and of itself is open to debate) but you and your ilk hogweed are pushing for gay acceptance. You are forcing 5000 years of tradition and heritage to buckle under to a very new concept . There is no need for gay “marriage”. Nobody is out there putting your gay friends in jail or re- education camps. You have the “right” to be gay but what you don’t have the right to do is normalize and legitimize a proclivity or sexual choice that most humans find abhorrehent and repulsive. You cannot re-define right and wrong at your fancy and whim.
June 9th, 2006 at 12:44 pmif you don’t find gay marriage a threat to your marriage then good for you . you obviously live in Massachussetts where gay “marriage” has been forced upon the populace by a judge and not the will of the people. Funny that Mass. is the only state in the Union that actually had a decline in population. Along with outrageous taxes and constititional restrictions along with ted kennedy your state has people in exodus. I understand why.
I cannot agree with you that the majority of Americans think the president is terrible. i do not beleive polls put out by liberals anyway. they can manipulate questions and data to get any answer they want. I would be willing to wager if the election wa sheld today the Massachussets liberal would again lose.
Chris:
I live in Oklahoma, as I already pointed out. Nice how anytime a fact is somehow in disagreement with your narrow world view, it is due to some sort of liberal conspiracy. Liberals control polling, liberals control science, liberals control the legal system, liberals control our courts, liberals control those little thoughts that creep into your mind and that make you feel all tingly whenever you obsess about two men getting it on in the privacy of their own home. Man, liberals (and I do *not* consider myself a liberal) have enormous power in this country! They are so powerful that even the big bad so-called Christian so-called conservatives are on the ropes!
The court decisions in Mass. and elsewhere were decided on the basis of the equal protection clause of the Constitution, not due to any pink lobby. Now I realize that the current Congress and Executive are doing everything that they can to get rid of that awfully constraining document (surely written by liberals — and ones with long hair and lacy shirts at that!), they still haven’t been able to do it. So, since your “vast majority” has failed in actually getting people to consider adding a special amendment to the Constitution just to deal with your repressed fantasies (damn liberals in the Republican-controlled Congress), I would suggest you take a different track: why don’t you just lobby for the removal of the equal protection clause? That way you can discriminate against anybody who is not as “normal” and pure as you, just like in the good old days.
Also, the idea that your “5000 year old tradition” has never changed before is a load of crap. Can you marry a twelve-year old in your state? Is your spouse your property? Just how many wives do you have? Can you marry someone from a different country/race/religion/ethnic group/village? If the answers that you give to these questions are any different than the ones that might have been common 5000 years ago, guess what: someone “buckled in”. Is your agenda really to put us back to some sort of paradise that you think existed 5000 years ago?
Plus, the whole sex issue — which you seem really, really obsessed with — isn’t the issue. Now I realize that you may think that marriage is only about sex, but for most people it isn’t. In fact, just the opposite for way too many people. Gay people are going to fall in love wether you want them to or not, and the question is if we deny them the same legal protections that everyone else gets. Gay people are not asking for the rest of us to allow them to have sex in public places, regardless of what you might be fantasizing about. They are asking for legal protections to raise their families, to have visitation rights, etc. Do you somehow think that denying them this basic equality will somehow make homosexuality go away? Just what is it that you think that you can achieve?
Now it really is a terrible inconvenience to have neighbors who do “icky” things that get you all excited, and the idea of two men holding hands in public (*gasp*) makes you think all kinds of things that you would rather not, the basic fact is that none of this is really your business. Either people are equal under the law in this country, or they aren’t.
June 9th, 2006 at 1:55 pmOh, and the whole “getting married for love” thing: recent invention, less than a 150 years old. Clearly something that needs to be abolished so that we can get back to the way things were 5000 years ago. You know, back when everyone could read and the gays hadn’t screwed up people’s understanding of geography by making people like you anxously obsess about their “sexual deviance.”
June 9th, 2006 at 2:07 pmIt has been my experience that those who really, really, really hate gay people, are themselves latent homosexuals. They hate themselves for what they are, so they make it their life’s mission to make out and proud gay people miserable. They know (because they themselves are gay) that a gay person knows another gay person. Therefore, they are so afraid of being outted, they make the big show to the world that they hate gay people, to prove they couldn’t possibly be gay (to the world, and to themselves). Based on my experience, Chris and Kyle look to be latent homosexuals.
June 9th, 2006 at 2:58 pmwanna bet?
June 9th, 2006 at 6:26 pmHey Kyle,
You are a piece of work. Seems you’re also the favorite piece for Chris and I’m sure the reverse is true.
This is why Bible humping, I mean babble thumping, I mean Bible Thumping Christians FEAR homosexuality. If homosexuality is in fact a mechanicle or genetic fact, there goes the entire idea of “Freewill”.
Yes, freewill. The hieght of biblical fundies’ belief is that we all given freewill to do the “right thing”. As it is becoming obvious that being homosexuality is not a choice but something one is born with, then the concept of freewill is an illusion. To have a god who would make people have no choice but say they do and demand that their choice be what is in the bible. It’s either that or it is straight to hell.
June 9th, 2006 at 6:33 pmChris:
Get a grip. You are the one telling people what to do. Nobody is talking about making gay marriage obligatory, so if you don’t want to shack up with a man, you don’t have to. As for tolerance, remember that it is people like you and Kyle that are telling everyone that they hope they are tortured for all eternity just because we don’t share your invisible friend.
When gay people start telling you that you can’t marry a women, then you can scream about how intolerant they are. So far, it ain’t happened, so I guess it is really only you and your ilk that are telling some people what they can and can’t do. My, doesn’t that just reveal how opressed you really are? I mean, here you are telling people what to do with their families lives and they are intolerant enough to not take your advice. The nerve!
June 9th, 2006 at 7:02 pmChris:
I took your advice and looked in the mirror. Wow, I guess I really I really am closed minded and intolerant when it comes to bigotry. The reason people here seem to think that you are gay is that you really seem obsessed with gay sex, and bring it up every chance that you can get. It really seems to get you worked up — if you don’t agree, try reading your posts again.
Sure, Chris, you and your army of bigots are going to fight us in the streets. I am sure that macho fantasy will compensate for those shameful tingly sensations you obviously get when thinking about what those strong, dirty gay recruiters might do to you if they ever find you.
June 9th, 2006 at 7:15 pmfirst of all none of you homophiles here know me. I am not a “fundy” , I am not even very religious but I do knowright from wrong and I do know the laws of nature. Sodomy is not a family value and homosexuality is not natural, it is a deviant sexual persuit. There is no real homosexuality in nature and what little ther is is motivated by sexual gratification not love and certainly not reproduction.
June 9th, 2006 at 7:25 pmHomo “marriage is a slippery slope. In the Netherlands now homosexual groups are pushing to lower the age of consent to something like 10 or 12 years old. The real homosexual agenda is kids and warpint their minds. homosxual “tolerance” is now being forced in America’s state run schools. Religions that speak out against homosexuality are being labeled “hate speech” and there is call in some quarters of the pro homosexual lobby to further their agenda by limiting what churches can say . In america the polygamists are pushing for legitimacy with the logic that if you allow homosexuality then anything should be allowable. to deny anyone their sexual rights is descriminatory. Yeah there is no agenda here.
While the senate was voting an the gay “marriage agenda some activist judge in Georgia declared the gay “marriage” ban in Georgia unconstitutional. That right there is why we need and ammendment to the Constitution banning so called gay marriage. In a democracy it is the will of the people that supposedly dictates law. One liberal nutjob activist judge can with the stroke of a pen negate the will of the people and it is wrong. I am usually a state’s rights believer but when these radical pro gay groups can find one sicko judge then democracy is lost and that is how civil warsd start.
You say that i am the intolerant one- what a laugh. You homophiles are the intolerant ones. Intolerant of tradition, religion, the normal family, and hundreds of years of real marriage. Homosexuality is a choice- nobody is putting a gun to your heads and making you be gay. You have the free will to be normal and do what is right. You pro gay evangelists may be fooling yourselves but you are not fooling the real America.
Chris:
Yeah, gay people are so intolerant of marriage that many of them want to be able to have them. And I hate Guiness beer so much that I just can’t stand the sight of a pint and have to make sure that it disappears down my throat just to get rid of that disgusting stuff that I hate oh so much.
June 9th, 2006 at 7:33 pmChris — you’re latent. Sorry. Don’t hate you. But you need to seek therapy immediately. You’ve got issues. Big ones. Latent ones. Get help.
June 9th, 2006 at 7:38 pmI have a personal library of over 5000 volumes mr truthful. Thanks for the invitation to see a head doctor but I really have no use for one. I am happy with myself and my convictions . i must have hit a chord with you- i mean two consecutive posts. Maybe it is you that needs a shrink. Some animals may exhibit deviant sexual behavoir just like some humans. I seriously doubt that there are hundreds tho. I think the person or person who indoctrinated you on homosexuality had their figures wrong.
June 9th, 2006 at 7:43 pmI am not threatened at all by gay marriage or gays- i find them laughable, pathetic and in serious need of mental counseling. I am repulsed and sickened by the sight of two men together. it is digusting and gross and I wish they would take their sickness back to their collective closets. I do not support polygamy, I support the definition of traditional marriage of that between one man and one woman- the way it should be.
Chris:
Now we are getting somewhere! So the sight of two men together makes you sickened and repulsed! Interesting, as I would think that if you had no issues it really wouldn’t do anything. You mean you see two men holding hands in the street and you get all bothered? Hmm… That sounds like something is reacting there, raising the adrenalin, making the heart beat faster… Does it “sicken” you so much that you have to stare? Does it sicken you so much that you can’t get it out of your head? Interesting… But of course, you have no issues. You are just a good, moral man with lots of unread books (comics?) who just happens to have a perfectly normal obsession with homosexuality. In a heterosexual sort of way, of course.
June 9th, 2006 at 7:50 pmChris — as if we didn’t need any more proof that you are indeed a latent homosexual, you trot out poor Matthew Sheppard and how he deserved to be murdered by the latent homosexuals who killed him. I hope you’re proud of yourself. You’re a big man, Chris. And here’s hoping you get your ass thrown in prison like the muderers of Matthew Sheppard and share the same fate they will — being the prison bitch. And you know what they do to the prision bitch don’t you, Chris. I’m sure you’ve masterbated thinking about it your entire lifetime. You are a pathetic little man, living a pathetic little life. You are to be pitied.
June 9th, 2006 at 8:22 pmOh, and Chris, my absolutely beautiful wife just read over my shoulder and started reading through your posts. Without my saying anything she said “Man, this guy is obviously gay.” Just an impartial opinion from someone passing by. I really can’t help but pity, since you will likely never know the joy of uninhibited sex with someone you love — it will all be sex either with women while you have all those obsessive thoughts in your head, or cheap truckstop sex that will make you come to places like this and try to act all outraged by the thought of two men holding hands in public. Sad, really.
June 9th, 2006 at 8:45 pmfirst of all homo- Einstein it is spelled m-a-s-t-u-r-b-a-t-e-d .secong Matthew Shephard was killed by meth heads . Even tho the gay lobby paraded his death out as a hate crime it was nothing more than a couple of dirtbags looking for money to get meth.
June 9th, 2006 at 8:51 pmI am not advocating villence against gays- I used the Laramie example to get your collective goats. It is hateful narrow minded left wing bigots who DEMAND gay marriage that instigate and perpetuate hatred of gays.
not that you’ll believe me or that I’ll care if you believe me but I have had gay friends or at least aquaintences. There have been a couple of times that folks have started getting nasty and at 6′2” @250 lbs and being an ex barroom bouncer I let my opinion be known that it would be in the parties best interest to take their little game somewhere else.
go ahead and continue to preach about me being a latent and closeted homosexual. It’s a pretty funny stretch on your part but like I said you don’t know me so you had best better let that idea go .
Violence is a natural part of life. although i am now an old man and pretty much at peace with all but the likes of you little fallas here . Violence is a lot more of a natural thing than homosexuality.
tingly and sweaty seeing two men .. nah not quite, more like naseous and ready to puke. not my cup of tea fellas.
I baited you out just enough to let your true colors show tho boys. you hate anybody that does not accept your gay rights dogma and are willing to say anything and use any kind of denigration and twisted logic to gain acceptance. nice try but it did not work.
oh yeah and take your pity and shove it up your ass once you remove your head from it.
hogweed – congatulations on your beautiful “wife” – what’s his name?
June 9th, 2006 at 8:55 pmChris, trust us, we more than believe you when you tell us that you have gay acquaintances. Oh, and it is spelled V-I-O-L-E-N-C-E, not “villance”.
That whole wanting to puke when you see two men together — interesting reaction. See, I am straight, and the first time that I saw two men together I did do a double take. Want to puke, no. Dude, your subconscious is telling you something with a physical reaction like that, and it ain’t that you are straight.
June 9th, 2006 at 8:57 pmChris, trust us, we more than believe you when you tell us that you have gay acquaintances. Oh, and it is spelled V-I-O-L-E-N-C-E, not “villence”.
That whole wanting to puke when you see two men together — interesting reaction. See, I am straight, and the first time that I saw two men together I did do a double take. Want to puke, no. Dude, your subconscious is telling you something with a physical reaction like that, and it ain’t that you are straight.
June 9th, 2006 at 8:57 pmChris wrote: “hogweed – congatulations on your beautiful “wife†– what’s his name?” Oh my god, you are so funny! How did you ever think of that! Surely I must be gay if I defend my friends and colleagues from bigots! Yeah, that’s the ticket.
Trust me, macho stud, you could never, ever attract someone like my wife. You see, not only is she not your type (she is a woman), you are not hers. She likes guys who aren’t overweight, dumb bigots. But hey, something that you’ll never have to worry about.
June 9th, 2006 at 9:01 pmA proper, religious is always between a man and a woman. That’s why Brittany Spears’ 52 hour marriage is so sacred. What’s wrong with a man and a man or a woman and a woman loving each other?
If someone loves someone, as my friend wisely said, why should we stop them? We should congratulate them on actually finding someone they will care for, and if others disagree, they should step into the shadows.
Homosexuality is natural and acceptable. Only fearful, control-addicted people want to stop homosexuality, and I really pity their sucky, miserable lives.
p.s- Who is Matthew Sheppard? From what I gather he is a homosexual man who was hung in Wyoming. People are truly sad, sad creatures if they kill all they can not control or silence.
June 9th, 2006 at 9:18 pmOh crap, my first sentence is supposed to say ‘A proper, religious marriage…’.
Darn having no edit buttons…
June 9th, 2006 at 9:20 pmyeah keep telling me how much of a “woman” (wink wink)she is there lady killer. I don’t have anything to do with diseased skanks, thanks anyway. nice that you have taken defending your gay friends as your own personal crusade. touche on the spelling tho- at least you were corect about one thing anyway. I DID spell it incorrectly the first time but corrected it later on. you must be some catch yourself to geta “woman” like that man. you should call yourself dickweed in honor of all those poor defamed and persecuted gays you like to defend.
June 9th, 2006 at 9:31 pmI’ll say one thing you are a funny guy- if in fact you are a guy at all. maybe that hot “woman” you are talking about is really a woman an maybe so are you.
Any guy that touts his woman’s charms much as you do and seems to know so much about truckstop sex and defends gays and does baryard psychology like you do maybe it’s YOu who are the bullshiter.
I’ll just bet your little woman is 400lbs with Gloria Peterbilt jeans, half her teeth and may or may not have female genitals.
I’ll go now and let you get back to your strap-on honey – ride cowboy ride.
Chris:
Yep, you got my number. I am a gay man/woman who lives here in sunny Taxachusets, and I am married to a “woman” who is really my gay loverboy. Yep, you figured it out, you 250lb tub of macho, manly love. Oh, and I mean that in a totally heterosexual way, of course. I wouldn’t want to give you those butterflies in the stomach — yeah, you know the ones I’m talking about tiny. Those little stomach flutters you keep bring up whenever the thought of man on man action comes up, and for some reason you keep bringing it up. Oh, but I am sure that it is just in a purely queer-bashing, heterosexual kind of way, tub-of-love.
Really, the idea that any straight person might have actual principles must really be a strange idea to you, given the kinds of things that go through your mind.
June 9th, 2006 at 9:42 pmChris:
Yeah, just keep telling us how straight you are (wink, wink). You have been nothing but convincing so far.
June 9th, 2006 at 9:44 pmOh, you Chris, are not fun to debate with. You don’t have any good points, and your comments aren’t keeping me on my feet at all. They most they are doing is poking me awake.
I am now leaving, since I have better things to do then argue with an older male who probably has the IQ of a chopstick. Plus the stupid insults of hogweeds’ wife being a male (I personally think she is a female) is as stupid as the ‘Yo Mama’ jokes floating around my school. I’ll check back later to see if anything interesting comes up, but I’m off to read more columns, or whatever the heck these thing are.
To hogweed or anyone else, don’t stay here to long with these people, or your IQ’s may drop a little.
Good Night!
June 9th, 2006 at 9:57 pmso this is the face of the gay crusaders these days. If you are against gay marriage on moral and ethical grounds you are latent homo yourself? whew now I know that the majority of folks in the majority of states are all closet fags. gonna be tough to get to sleep tonight thiking of all us closet queers roaming about. No wonder opinion is against you and your cause.
June 9th, 2006 at 9:59 pmIt must be tough; I mean taking it upon yourself to defend homosexuality the way you do and all You must be some kind of fag joan of arc or something. I’ll bet your picture hangs in all the gay bars and you are an underground hero in every fag city in America
the more I read what you boys here type the more I am resolved to work to stop gay “marriage” You create the hate you say you loathe. You are everything you say you despise . No wonder liberalism is dying out in America- thank God! People may not hate gays as much as pity them their lifestyle choice but you self described homo crusaders and defenders – now there is something to truly hate.
You do your “cause” a disservice by your stupid juvenile attacks and name calling and tainted logic. I feel better now because with crusaders like you America will see the truth and be safe from the gay menace . You have proved my point and made my case for me – thanks dickweed- you and your little woman have a nice nite ya hear.
Good point, Duckzilla. Here I am calling out the bigotry of an obese, closeted redneck who can’t deal with the idea that a straight person from Oklahoma might actually care about what happens to people around him. That really says something about what a pathetic life he must live. I too will wander off for a bit for my own sanity.
Chris, this is your cue: grab your lube and start thinking about what those big, dirty homosexual recruiters might do to you if they every find your naughty douhgy self. And I mean that in a purely heterosexual way, of course — I wouldn’t want to give you those butterflies in your ample stomach.
June 9th, 2006 at 10:07 pmChris:
I think you misunderstood something here. Nobody was saying that *everyone* who opposes gay marriage is a closet case. We are saying that *you* are, and you have given us every reason to think that, what with the butterflies in the stomach and everything.
I hope that you and your right hand have a wonderful night. I am sure that you are a big hero to obese redneck closet cases everywhere.
June 9th, 2006 at 10:11 pmI’m sure Senator Inhofe is returning the portion of his salary that is paid by his gay and divorced constituents!
June 9th, 2006 at 11:25 pmi sure hope chris stays a republican, and speaks his mind more often.
next time i need to show someone the perfect example of the bigotry and small-mindedness of the right wing i’ll just send them here to read his comments.
June 10th, 2006 at 2:42 ami think you were all too hard on chris.
he’s obviously very afraid. i mean the guy is practically petrified with his fear of gay people. and rightfully so — didn’t you know that homosexuals have a secret plan to turn everybody gay?
their secret is that their special gay powers only work when they’re married. remember the wonder twins? it’s kinda like that.
June 10th, 2006 at 2:58 ampetrefied- hardly you wingnut queer lovers here have just shown me and the rest of the country the evil, disgusting face that really hides behind your flowery sounding forced diversity and tolerance bullshit.
June 10th, 2006 at 9:16 amYou nutjobs here are intolerant and dangerous. The way you attack anybody that does not adhere to the pro fag lockstep is actually quite scary. you bottom feeding scum sucker hypocrites really show your
tolerance” by the way you have expressed your views against those that disagree. Myself i have gone from a person who was rather ambivalent about gays to aperson who now wants to do all i can to fight what really is a gay menace. For folks who calim to not be judgemental you idiots here are the MOST judgemantal scumbags I have ever seen. What ever rock you climbed out from under please go back .
My only consolation here is knowing that most of America agrees with me. Gay “marriage” will never be allowed in most of the country and for that I am glad. I really hope real Americans with sound minds read the crap you hypocrites here have written so they can see exactly what America is up against and see the true face of the forced “tolerance and diversity” crowd.
what a bunch of juvenile little idiots you all are.
Chris:
I never claimed to be nonjudgemental. You are a bigot, and I judge you on those grounds. You like being a bigot, I think it sucks.
Why are you a bigot on this particular issue? Well, in your case it is obvious to everyone here that you have some unresolved issues to deal with that are getting you all hot and bothered. Just read your comments here, tiny, and then tell me that you don’t have an obsession with gay sex, think (i.e., secretly hope) that all gay people are out there to turn you queer, you even get butterflies in your stomach just at the thought of two men together. It is really, really obvious to everyone here.
I really don’t tolerate bigotry, and I know that you have a hard time understanding that. I don’t tolerate people who advocate torture either.
June 10th, 2006 at 11:29 amand i don’t tolerate people who try to re-define marriage to pander to sexual deviants and child molesters. i don’t tolerate people who try to denigrate people who will not tolerate gay marriage by insinuating that they are gay.
June 10th, 2006 at 1:28 pmBigot – is that liberalspeak for anybody that doesn’t agree with furthering the cause of sexual degeneracy and moral decay?
If not tolerating people like you pokerweed( or whatever you call yourself) and your agenda is being a bigot then I’ll proudly wear that label.
if exposing the utter hypocrisy of the gay agenda is being a bigot then I’ll proudly wear that label.
I take this issue strongly because I think gay people can be helped to reject their sickness and be normal.
I firmly believe that homosexuality is a sickness that is being pushed upon America against it’s will .
torture – I am tired of liberals torturing the US Constsitution to further their sick agenda.
I am tired of America being tortured at the hands of the gay agenda.
Tolerance is just the rant of idiots without convictions or morals.
you imply that i am secretly gay and have “issues” that in of itself is laughable and as usual you left wingers who are pushing the gay agenda will use any sick logic and tactics to further your cause. I am just sick of people like you and your ilk pushing degeneracy and elevating homosexuality to normalcy. What’s next on the agenda? Affirmative action for gays? reparations? .
the gay agenda under the guise of tolerance and diversity is now being pushed on kids as young as six years old in the state run schools here in America and if you must know the truth that is the real genesis of my anger. That just blows my mind that the state is negating parents rights to teach what is right and wrong. I do thank God that my kids are not young enough to have to be indoctrinated and brainwashed into believing homosexuality is a legitimate persuit.
If that makes me a bigot then once again I most proudly wear that title. you sickos are going after our kids now and you need to be stopped at all costs.
Chris:
Alright. Now you have called me “dickweed” and “pokerweed.” Again with the references to male genitalia. With displays of obsession with the penis like that how can you really wonder why people think that you are a closet case?
I really hope that someday you overcome your sexual frustration and get to be happy. If that happens, I can only imagine how much you will regret the things that you have said here — all directed against yourself at the end of the day.
June 10th, 2006 at 1:42 pmChris:
You said… i don’t tolerate people who try to re-define marriage to pander to sexual deviants and child molesters Where has your head been? Are you truly that clueless. Look at the world around you…
Mary Kay Letourneau was a 34-year-old teacher and mother of four when she first slept with her sixth grade student. After serving seven years for her child molestation felony, she got out and married her former victim and now — by your definition of marriage between a man and a woman — they are a clean moral healthy normal “family”. Further, if you take a look at this recent bout of teacher’s molesting under-age students, more than 80% of the molestors are married women.
Before you even think to accuse gays of corrupting marriage — look at the track record of your fellow heteros.
June 10th, 2006 at 3:30 pmhey hogwood give it up man. I think that is maybe you who have the gay disease and lust for a gay lover. Anybody that accuses anybody else of being gay as much as you do I think is the one with the problem . Maybe you and your “beautiful” truckstop girlfriend need to have a talk. By the way how come you seem to know so much about gay truckstop sex? I’ll just bet you did a little “research” on your own. You seem to know so much about all this gay stuff that I wonder why you are defending it so much……
June 10th, 2006 at 3:46 pmJames , well I think that anybody who engages in deviant sex be it women and underage boys or child molesters or homosexuals should be punished for their action. The reason why we are seeing so many sexual deviants is due to the loosening morals thanks to the homo crusaders. Now anything goes right?
homosexuals are responsible for the demise of cultural norms and decency. Society is getting the message that there are no boundaries when it comes to who (or what) you can have sexual relations with.
How about AIDS? thanks to all the fags and bisexuals AIDS and other STDs are rampant. Homosexuality and the legitimizing of homosexuality is destroying the moral fiber of America.
homosexuals don’t need mariage they need therapy .
NO GAY KIDS?
I don’t want to spread rumors — but now I’m dying to know if anyone else knows anything about this.
I live in San Francisco, and about 3-4 years ago there was a guy living down the block who I met casually once or twice. He claimed to be the stepson of Senator Inhofe (said his mother had married Inhofe). He was gay and had a twin gay brother. He left the neighborhood after about a year, reportedly to return to Oklahoma to work more with Inhofe because he had an interest in politics.
Now, none of this meshes with what I can find online about Senator Inhofe and his family (wife Kay, married 46 years) but interestingly the official biographies online list FOUR adult kids, not twenty, so I’m wondering why the Senator would have contradicted his biographies about the number of children.
This former neighbor, whom I did not know well at all, seemed to be pretty stable, took good care of his place, etc — and was in in his early 20s I think. His name was something with a D, I believe, like Delvin — not a real common name. In my view there was no reason for him to mis-represent himself.
Now, my memory is a little foggy on this but FOR SURE I recall his talking about Oklahoma and Inhofe. I am wondering whether anyone has any information about this, or about the “20 kids” vs the online semi-official bios that list 4 children.
John from San Francisco
June 10th, 2006 at 4:14 pmChris:
Um, if you actually read what I wrote, I guess you can conclude that I know that truckstop sex exists. I confess, I read newspapers. You must not, since anyone who actually reads knows that truckstop sex exists.
You might also think about the fact that *you* are the one flipping out about gay sex, talking about how you get butterflies in your stomach whenever you think about what two men might do, are obsessed with being recruited, and make constant reference to the penis, etc. Dude, those are your fantasies, I am just pointing them out to you. This is not to mention your fantasy that somehow anything short of concentration camps for gays will somehow oblige you to marry a man. These are *obviously* signs of someone struggling with their sexuality, as I and more than a few other people here have pointed out.
If you had half a brain, you would know that by now, but it is clear that you are too far gone to understand anything that isn’t spoon-fed to you on Fox.
You just go ahead and think whatever you want, closet-boy. At the end of the day you are completely on the losing side of this issue, and the next thing you know there will be rampant equality everywhere. The horror!
June 10th, 2006 at 6:07 pm“homosexuals are responsible for the demise of cultural norms and decency.”
Get your head out of your ass.
June 10th, 2006 at 6:39 pmI am on the losing side of the issue- typical of a liberal- delusional as usual. You are on the losing side of the issue because every state that has voted on gay “marriage” has soundly voted it down so tell me again how am I losing?? You seemed to get pretty neverous there and explain in way too much detail how you know about all that truckstop sex. Read the newspapers eh? right. You seem to have fixation on closets – maybe it is you who nee to self examine I never said “butterflies, I said it made me want to puke- but I guess you must know all about puke sex from (wink- wink) the newspapers right? I am way too old to explore my sexuality and at this stage in my life at my age I am more asexual than anything else. but I do read about 20 newspapers online every day.
June 10th, 2006 at 6:48 pmrampant equality for sexual deviants like homosexuals- not in my lifetime I don’t think. beside there is nothing equal about rights that are wrong fool.
it is now apparent that you are too far gone to understand anything but what you are spoon fed by moveon.org, in these times and the san Francisco chronicle and probably Kieth (orange blockhead) Olbermann. Oh you are just so progressive!
I am really getting bored fighting a battle of wits with someone so obviously unarmed as yourself.
later commie.
Yeah, we’ll see Chris. Or at least I will. Obese, sedentary and ignorant people like you tend to have shortened lifespans.
June 10th, 2006 at 8:16 pmThat’s ok at least my life is better than yours could ever be. I thought part of your libs doctrine was not to be judgemental or is that only for homos?
June 10th, 2006 at 9:42 pmI may be ignorant but I am smarter than you. at least my IQ has 3 numbers in it which is obviously more than I can say for you.
better get back to your truckstop Mr. weed .
I am just doing my part to piss off the wacko left wing nutjobs.
i know I said I was going but i am just having so much fun proving what a moron you are and it’s sooo easy.
So, they were all ‘one night stands’ I guess.
June 10th, 2006 at 9:43 pmthis is hilarious…
first “closet” chris says,
“I am way too old to explore my sexuality and at this stage in my life”
then he says,
“I do read about 20 newspapers online every day.”
and then — the kicker –
“my life is better than yours could ever be”
yes, you old, non-sexuality exploring, gay-bashing, fear-riddled newspaper reader, you sure sound like you’re living the epitome of the perfect life.
let’s see…
this guy, “closet” chris, he’s obviously a coward. he’s so terrified of gay people they make him want to puke. he’s afraid he’ll catch their “disease”. he’s so obsessed with gays, he’s posted 18 times over 2 days about how much he fears and hates them. he wants laws against them. do you want laws against alzheimers, chris? do you want laws against influenza? you’re much more likely to catch the flu than you are to “turn gay” — that is, unless you’re latent homosexual already. so the truth is that the only threat gay people pose to your lifestyle is if you happen to be a desperately repressed gay person. and you sure do sound desperate, closet boy.
oh, and to replay one of “closet” chris’ greatest hits…
“I think gay people can be helped to reject their sickness and be normal … I am tired of liberals torturing the US Constsitution to further their sick agenda.”
opposing an amendment that makes discrimination constitutional is “torturing” the constitution? wow. the gays have got your panties in such a knot you can’t even think straight. in case you missed the little nuance of your anti-gay friends, chris, the ones trying to change the constitution are on your bigoted, hopelessly puerile side. as you rightfully pointed out before, many states have passed laws against gay marriage, so there should be no reason to address it on a federal level. many of those against this amendment aren’t “pro-gay” in any sense whatsoever — they’re just people that don’t think you should write discrimination and cowardice into the constitution.
and if you are insinuating that you’re “normal”, then normal is in really bad shape.
June 10th, 2006 at 11:29 pm“closet” chris goes on to say…
“The way you attack anybody that does not adhere to the pro fag lockstep is actually quite scary. you bottom feeding scum sucker hypocrites really show your tolerance by the way you have expressed your views against those that disagree”
wow. that’s a really tolerant statement you’ve made there, closet boy! nothing vitriolic or ad hominem about that. you really showed us the meaning of “tolerance” and “open-mindedness”.
as if we were supposed to give you the benefit of the doubt after your first post, containing the following patriotic, moral and ethical screed:
“in the real America we politely ( for now) request all fags please return to your little closte and shut the hell up”
that’s right, closet boy — this kind of dialogue is exactly what america needs. it sure is polite to call someone a fag. where would civil discourse in america be without you, chris?
better look out… your morals are showing.
June 10th, 2006 at 11:55 pm“i know I said I was going but i am just having so much fun proving what a moron you are and it’s sooo easy.” –Posted by Chris
After spending the last couple of hours reading all of your posts and those of your “opponents”, with all due respect (and that would be none), the only thing you proved is that you came to this party empty handed. You were made intellectual mincemeat of–decisively and unequivocally.
One can only hope that your loins are as barren as your intellect and that you will not have the opportunity to spawn a future generation of hateful little Chrises to carry on your “legacy”.
June 11th, 2006 at 5:08 amgo ahead- keep proving yourself wrong with hypocrisy. Tsk tsk not polite to call a fag fag? How about the rudeness of trying to force gay “marriage” on a country that doesn’t want it or need it. How about pushing homosexuality in taxpayer funded government schools? How about labeling anyone who dares speak out on the gay agenda as the menace it is as a bigot? How about accusing anyone against the gay agenda as themselves being gay. The sickos have spoken and the hypocrisy is plain to see.
June 11th, 2006 at 7:55 amYou self appointed defenders of gay “marriage” have lost every argument by the sheer hypocrisy and stupidity of your statements. You can attack the messenger but you cannot attack the message- or the truth.
I am not the one trying to legitimize gay “marriage” you are therefore the burden is on you to rationalize why gays should have the right to marry.
As I have mentioned in other posts if this is the face of proponents of gay “marriage” then I feel pretty safe knowing it will never happen here in America. If the hateful, lying,slime-mongers here were not so nasty I would almost pity them for their defense of the undefenseless.
I do hope that all the folks who have attacked me here get the mental help they so oviously and desperately need.
if you want to be gay go right ahead with your little hobby but leave America alone and do not try to force your sickness on us.
I have obviously succeded in my goal of pissing off the lunatic fringe- the hate mongering bigoted responses here display just how much contempt there is among the kooks for reality and decency.
Chris you have obviously succeeded in showing us bigotry’s ugly face, nothing more. Hypocricy from those who claim family values is increasingly what ails this country. You and your ilk should realize that no marriage is at threat from gays getting married. I am a old married woman whose marriage is in no way threatened. I have three grown children. Thankfully they too, realize that this is a red herring, a non-issue for most Americans. The right wing bigots would have us think other wise. Just another “war on christmas” nonsense. Not everyone is christian or even religious for that matter. To impose what is a religious aspect on the country by way of amendment is ridiculous and the promalgation of bigotry and discrimination. Please Sir, get a clue, if only for the sake of your country.
June 11th, 2006 at 2:19 pmbird- how did we get so far in this country for all these years without so called gay “marriage”? This country was made great ( so far) by having standards and morals not caving into the deviant whims of the outer fringe.
June 11th, 2006 at 6:01 pmthe radical left wing attacks anybody that does not agree with them as bigots and it’s pretty funy.
it is folks like you bird who show bigotry and contemt for this country by attempting to re- define mariiage to suit sexual degenerates. It is folks like you and the other sickos here that are the real danger to our society.
I am not very much a Christian either,. you don’t have to be religious to have common sense and know right from wrong.
if it is so much of a non issue tell me why in every state that had had so called gay “marriage” on the ballot has it been overwhelmingly defeated??
the problem with folks like you and the other radical left wingnuts is you are so open minded you have been brainwashed into thinking that homosexuality is a viable, reasonable lifestyle choice.
oh and promulgation is spelled p-r-o-m-u-l-g-a-t-i-o-n. kids today can’t spell but they damn sure know how to identify “homophobia” when they see it… I rest my case.
All you do is say homosexuality is bad but why not give reasons why it is bad? No refrences to bible either, dumbass.
And you’re what’s wrong with society. It’s real simple why. You’re stupid, and you’re going to hell as well, as I told Kyle we do not like bitches in heaven……..Dumbass.
—-God—-:)
June 11th, 2006 at 6:16 pmwhy is homsexuality bad?? your brainwashing is complete isn’t it shithead? if you don’t know why homosexuality is bad stop- you don’t have the mental power to figure out the basic difference between right and wron.
2 maybe 3 % choose to be gay. of that maybe 1% percent of the gay population really wants to get married. so you are telling me that because maybe, maybe 1% of the population wants to have the rules changed for them that the rest of society should change?? I don’t think so.
your funny little tirade proves that you have been brainwashed into accepting that deviance is normal .
you get to be gay (thanks SCOTUS for nothing!) but you don’t get to change society to suit your perversions.
gay “marriage” is not even about marriage. it is about trying normalize homosexuality..
sodomy is NOT a family value!
so nice try yourself dumbass- we don’t want gay marriage in America- and we are not going to let a few deviants change that.
everytime the people have voted on gay “marriage” they have soundly rejected it.
June 11th, 2006 at 8:06 pmsorry, you lose!
“sodomy is NOT a family value!”
Your stereotyping of gays as being sodomizing sex freaks just shows your bigotry, and what makes it any different than your kids running into you having sex the “normal” way. You’re still using something from the bible, Sodomy. You have lost this argument a long time ago. Hey, you go say that in the courts, stupid!!! You do believe in the bible, you should go shove that up your ass, and maybe your idiotic, racist, dream can come true.
June 11th, 2006 at 8:59 pmtsk tsk to the artist formerly known as “god” sorry about slaughtering your sacred cows . for someone who says they reject hate you sure spew hate .
June 11th, 2006 at 9:45 pmthat is why we need a Constitutional ammendment to stop gay “marriage” so that some liberal wingnut activist judge cannot impose the will of the gay lobby on our society. I have not lost the argument because America has rejected gay ” marriage” so tell me how I have lost??
your desire to shove a bible up my ass proves that degenerates like you are “sodomizing sex freaks”.
tell me oh great liberal defender of sodomy how do you equate my rejecting gay “marriage” as racist??
my dream does not need to come true – there already is a ban on gay “marriage” in 99% of America. I never lose.
and sodomy still ain’t a family value…
closet chris has moved into complete “if i say it then it’s true” right-wing denial. good to see you’ve got all the talking points down. now if you could only get on top of that latent homosexuality issue…
there wasn’t a single state in 2004 that had “gay marriage on the ballot” — they had proposed laws against gay marriage. you see, there’s a difference. you idiotically imply that there are masses of gays that want to force laws for gay marriage when in fact the opposite is true: homophobic closeted cowards like yourself put the propositions forward to make sure they don’t have the temptation of homosexuality too near, lest they capitulate to the latent homosexual inside them that’s desperate to get out.
you really are pathetic chris. you’re now at 21 posts in three days, all about how much you think about homosexuality. you just can’t stop thinking about gay people, can you chris? you’re obsessed. morning, noon and night, homosexuality dominates chris’ thoughts.
in his quiet time chris has to sit by himself and repeat “i’m really NOT a homo” over and over again. then once the fear has subsided he goes out and does some good old-fashioned gay-bashing. then he pops over to tp to write about his favorite topic: gay people.
seriously, chris, it’s been a very long time since i’ve seen anyone with as much passion for gay people as yourself.
21 posts, chris. 3 consecutive days. it’s pretty clear you’re screaming for a big man to hold you and make it all better. good luck, closet boy. you seriously need it.
June 11th, 2006 at 10:02 pm22 posts in 3 days, all about how much chris thinks about homosexuality
June 11th, 2006 at 10:04 pmSorry I forgot to put a sarcastic smile, you cute little goofball. ;-)
June 12th, 2006 at 8:47 am“gay lobby”
Who is that, Abercrombie & Fitch? I wonder if you wear one their polo shirts you fag!!! Stop supporting the gay lobby, fag!!!
Hahahahahahahaha(God pointing and laughing at chris)hahahahahaha!!!
June 12th, 2006 at 8:52 amyou are twisted sick puppy there proresso. your silly little arguments and accusations are funny.. they are also the reason normal folk don’t like gays and their agenda.
June 12th, 2006 at 8:53 amkeep going, the more you speak the clearer the true agenda of the gay liberation nutjobs becomes.Maybe we need hate crimes legislation to stop the gay crusaders from attacking folks who dare to question their effort to turn America into one big gay pride parade.
I am just one person who will not be told by any body, especially sexual degenerates who to tolerate.
the issue here is gay marriage and in reading your post I have come to the conclusion that one of your problems, if not your main problem is being able to understand rational thought. Your stunning example of the 2004 gay “marriage” issue is so obvious as to not need any more explaining.
homophobic- that phrase always make me laugh. Like I am the one with the problem because I reject the legitimization and normalization of homos. I am not the one commiting sodomy and all other forms of sick sex acts.
closeted?? another real laugh.. you have no idea who you are talking to do you?? outside of your silly liitle writings here you have no clue.
go ahead and continue with your homosexual caped crusader crusade…. but you still lose..
“America into one big gay pride parade.”
You’re stupid, you know why? Gay marriage is not the issue, if your kids become or already are gay what are you going to do about it? You’re going to have to accept that, because they’re not going to listen to you. 99% of the country votes against gays getting married, so what is that going to do anyways. People will become gay if that is what they feel whether you like or not. There are more pressing issues, like abolishing the federal reserve, the environment, and better education and healthcare systems. Being gay is a choice, and you’re not going to change that by keeping individuals from getting married stupid!!
Gays just want to be accepted in society, rather than get dirty looks from the likes of you. Is it so hard to ask? Look at what most of the reasons for suicide are for young men, but what would you care, it’s just another fag, and god doesn’t care about his or her’s life, they are just a bunch of fags. Very Merciful, huh??
” In heaven, all the interesting people are missing.”
Friedrich Nietzsche
June 12th, 2006 at 9:24 amlie I have said repeatedly in my posts my issue is with gay marriage and the efforts of some radical groups to promote and normalize homosexuality in American culture.
June 12th, 2006 at 9:48 amyou even said it yourelf that being gay was a choice and I recognize that if that is ths choice you choose well the so waht?? It is not me who has brought the issues of who somebody sleeps with to the forefront.
you want eo be gay, i don’t have a problem with that if you keep it to yourself. you want to take my tax dollars for schools to promote the gay lifestyle under the hypocritical idea of “tolerance” and try to legitimize homosexual behavoir with gay marriage then I have a problem with it and so does the rest of America.
That comment #569 is one of the stupidest one you have put so far Chris. AIDS are not caught just by having sex, it is a virus in the blood stream that can be caught by sharing needles and other health equipment, along with living in miserable conditions (dirt floors, lack of food and health, etc.) STD’s are not spread just by homosexuals. There are plenty of heterosexuals that have, and share, sexually transmitted diseases.
You keep mentioning the words ‘normal people’. What are they? Are they the people who live in houses that look the same, have one little boy and girl, an at-home wife, a working husband, and bible school every Sunday? Or whenever you utter ‘normal people’ should we think of floor lengths dresses, farming and no electricity, weekly witch burnings, and throwing people into rivers?
You are one small-minded person, Chris. (But are you really Chris? For some reason you remind me of Kyle)
And remember Chris, it was your choice to post here even though you saw that most of the posts were calling Inhofe ‘a mindless git’, or something like that. If you can’t take the heat, then please leave.
June 12th, 2006 at 11:10 amWhy don’t we out law hetereo sexual marriage. The filthy idea of putting a penis into a vagina, and legitimizing the idea of sex. Outrageous!!!! ;)
You have been against sodomy. I wonder if you ever done anal with a girl, you definetley would be the biggest hypocrite ever. As well with your Abercrombie & Fitch polos from the big gay lobby you support… Now just go away and die please, go step on a nail or something, God!!! Can you ever rest from your big right wing surplus “Master Debater” lobby.
June 12th, 2006 at 11:13 amWell, after a brief absence and a quick perusal of the posts, I am now convinced that Chris might be onto something here with the whole STD and AIDS issue. In the United States, the highest rates of HIV infection are gay men, then straight men, then straight women, then lesbians (NOTE: this is *not* the case in the rest of the world, but since Chris can’t think beyond what happens in so-called “real America” — from which my own state of Oklahoma is somehow inexplicably excluded — we’ll limit ourselves to the USA). If monogomy inhibits the spread of HIV, and marriage promotes monogamy, then essentially what Chris is promoting is the following:
Gay men: marriage is obligatory, divorce illegal.
Straight men: marriage is obligatory, divorce is difficult.
Straight women: marriage is optional, divorce at will.
Lesbians: run wild!
So, since this must essentially be what Chris was proposing when he mentioned the whole HIV thing, I guess gay marriage really should be “forced on America” — by that I mean actually be obligatory — as soon as possible.
Of course, all this breaks down outside of the USA, but then again, does anything really exist outside the USA except for people who want to kill us?
June 12th, 2006 at 12:03 pmOh, and Chris: please tell me *exactly* how this doesn’t fit what you are claiming with regard to HIV. You are really going to have to spell it out to me, using data, logic and solid arguments. You haven’t done any of that yet in all your posts, but you have told me how much smarter you are than me. So, enlighten me. Then maybe I can have a life as good as yours: asexual, overweight, glued to the computer screen reading 20 newspapers a day as well as posting obsessively about all the evil homosexuals that are coming to get you and who are preventing our kids from learning geography. Boy, that sounds *so* much better than leading an actual life.
June 12th, 2006 at 12:31 pmI never claimed to be smarter just right.
June 12th, 2006 at 12:50 pmif you bothered to check the facts almost 70% of AIDS is caused by gay men.
Hey prove to me why we should cave in and allow so called gay “marriage”
I like “debating” with such astute and articulate minds like the ones I find here. I have every right to excercise my 1st Ammendment rights here or anywhere else. maybe if you can’t take the heat you should remove YOURSELF from the kitchen.
still on the newspaper kick eh?? well I just like to read and be informed as to what’s going on- you like hot gay truckstop sex , I like to educate myself.
hey tell me why if almost 70% of AIDs is caused by gay men why the government is going after , guns, obesity, smoking etc?? shouldn’t the big governemnt advocates be all for curbing homosexuality, I mean we spend gazillions of $$ here and abroad for AIDS. Why are you encouraging the gay lifestyle??
you gay crusaders are soo funny!!
Chris:
In post #575 you wrote, referring to me: “I may be ignorant but I am smarter than you.”
In post #598 you wrote, again to me: “I never claimed to be smarter just right.”
Just keep making stuff up. I am sure nobody will catch on.
June 12th, 2006 at 2:12 pmChris:
In your last message you wrote: “almost 70% of AIDS is caused by gay men”. False. 100% of AIDS is caused by the HIV virus, not by gay men. You would say “100% of athletes foot is caused by feet”? Or, “51% of the common cold is caused by women.” Or, “100% of male pattern baldness is caused by men”?
Well, seeing the general course and leve of your arguments, you just might. [case in point: “I may be ignorant but I am smarter than you.†followed by “I never claimed to be smarter just right."]
Come on, brainiac, keep them rolling. We tremble in fear.
June 12th, 2006 at 3:14 pmIneptness has ruined the GOP
Garrison Keillor
June 7, 2006
People who live in mud huts should not throw mud, especially if it comes from their own roofs. As Scripture says, don’t point to the speck in your neighbor’s eye when you have a piece of kindling in your own.
I see by the papers that the Republicans want to make an issue of House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) in the congressional races this fall: Would you want a San Francisco woman to be speaker of the House? Will the lectern be repainted in lavender stripes with a disco ball overhead? Will she be borne into the chamber by male dancers with glistening torsos and wearing pink tutus? After all, in the unique worldview of old elephants, San Francisco is a code word for g-a-y, and after assembling a record of government lies, incompetence and disaster, the party in power hopes that the fear of g-a-y-s will pull it through in November.
Running against Pelosi, a woman who comes from a district where there are known gay persons, is a nice trick, but it does draw attention to the large, shambling galoot who is House speaker now, Tom DeLay’s enabler for years, a man who, judging by his public mutterances, is about as smart as most high school wrestling coaches. For the past year, Dennis Hastert has been two heartbeats from the presidency. He is a man who seems content just to have a car and driver and three square meals a day. He has succeeded in turning Congress into a branch of the executive branch. If Mr. Hastert becomes the poster boy for the Republican Party, this does not speak well for them as the Party of Ideas.
People who want to take a swing at San Francisco should think twice. Yes, the Irish coffee at Fisherman’s Wharf is overpriced, and the bus tour of Haight-Ashbury is disappointing (Where are the hippies?), but the Bay Area is the cradle of the computer and software industry, which continues to create jobs for our children. The iPod was not developed by Baptists in Waco, Texas. There may be a reason for this. Creative people thrive in a climate of openness and tolerance, since some great ideas start out sounding ridiculous. Creativity is a key to economic progress. Authoritarianism is stifling. I don’t believe that Mr. Hewlett and Mr. Packard were gay, but what’s important is: In San Francisco, it doesn’t matter so much. When the cultural Sturmbannfuhrers try to marshal everyone into straight lines, it has consequences for the economic future of this country.
Meanwhile, the Current Occupant goes on impersonating a president. Somewhere in the quiet, leafy recesses of the Bush family, somebody is thinking, “Wrong son. Should’ve tried the smart one.” Five years in office and he doesn’t have a grip on it yet. You stand him up next to British Prime Minister Tony Blair at a news conference and the comparison is not kind to Our Guy. Historians are starting to place him at or near the bottom of the list. And one of the basic assumptions of American culture is falling apart: the competence of Republicans.
You might not have always liked Republicans, but you could count on them to manage the bank. They might be lousy tippers, act snooty, talk through their noses, wear spats and splash mud on you as they race their Pierce-Arrows through the village, but you knew they could do the math. To see them produce a ninny and then follow him loyally into the swamp for five years is disconcerting, like seeing the Rolling Stones take up lite jazz. So here we are at an uneasy point in our history, mired in a costly war, a supine Congress granting absolute power to a president who seems to get smaller and dimmer, and the best the Republicans can offer is San Franciscophobia? This is beyond pitiful. This is violently stupid.
It is painful to look at your father and realize the old man should not be allowed to manage his own money anymore. This is the discovery the country has made about the party in power. They are inept. The checkbook needs to be taken away. They will rant, they will screech, they will wave their canes at you and call you all sorts of names, but you have to do what you have to do.
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Garrison Keillor is an author and the radio host of “A Prairie Home Companion.”
June 12th, 2006 at 6:08 pmawwwwww you almost hurt my little feelings…snif… give it up moron – al you van do is yell nazi like every other leftard..
oh and using that little liberal apple doll Garrison keilor..now that’s a good one… I have read some of his stuff and he is not even a good comedian nevermind agood social commentator.
pelosi that too is a good one- she comes from the most liberal district in the most liberal state- good choice once again by the democrats… no wonder why they keep losing. Besides this fall when republicans pick up more house and senate seats she is out on her very liberal ass.
my wiring and fuses are all intact and operating fine. you have just been brainwashed to believe that anyone who goes against the liberal religion , of which gay “rights” is a cornerstone is a nazi.
it’s easy to spell and it’s easy to yell just yell nazi and all will be swell. hey that’s almost a liberal Haiku isn’t it??
but rest ok little fellas.. somewhere, somehow you are some fags hero.
June 12th, 2006 at 6:56 pmchris’ gay obsession is now at 27 posts in four days
so strong is his passion for homosexuals… this is how devoted chris is to his gay problem…
June 12th, 2006 at 8:47 pmCHRIS: READ UP ON YOURSELF….
Henry E. Adams, Lester W. Wright’ Jr., and Bethany A. Lohr conducted this research at the Psychology Department of the University of Georgia, where Dr. Adams is now professor emeritus.
Hostility and discrimination against homosexual individuals are well-established facts. On occasion, these negative attitudes lead to hostile verbal and physical acts against gay individuals with little apparent motivation except a strong dislike. In fact, more than 90% of gay men and lesbians report being targets of verbal abuse or threats, and more than one-third report being survivors of violence related to their homosexuality. Although negative attitudes and behaviors toward gay individuals have been assumed to be associated with rigid moralistic beliefs, sexual ignorance, and fear of homosexuality, the etiology of these attitudes and behaviors remains a puzzle. Weinberg ( 1972 ) labeled these attitudes and behaviors homophobia, which he defined as the dread of being in close quarters with homosexual men and women as well as irrational fear, hatred, and intolerance by heterosexual individuals of homosexual men and women. . . .
Although the causes of homophobia are unclear, several psychoanalytic explanations have emerged from the idea of homophobia as an anxiety-based phenomenon. One psychoanalytic explanation is that anxiety about the possibility of being or becoming a homosexual may be a major factor in homophobia. For example, de Kuyper (1993) has asserted that homophobia is the result of the remnants of homosexuality in the heterosexual resolution of the Oedipal conflict. Whereas these notions are vague, psychoanalytic theories usually postulate that homophobia is a result of repressed homosexual urges or a form of latent homosexuality. Latent homosexuality can be defined as homosexual arousal which the individual is either unaware of or dent. Psychoanalysts use the concept of repressed or latent homosexuality to explain the emotional malaise and irrational attitudes displayed by some individuals who feel guilty about their erotic interests and struggle to deny and repress homosexual impulses. In fact, West stated, ‘when placed in a situation that threatens to excite their own unwanted homosexual thoughts, they overreact with panic or anger.” Slaby ( 1994 ) contended that anxiety about homosexuality typically does not occur in individuals who are same-sex oriented, but it usually involves individuals who are ostensibly heterosexual and have difficulty integrating their homosexual feelings or activity. The relationship between homophobia and latent homosexuality has not been empirically investigated and is one of the purposes of the present study.
Specifically, the present study was designed to investigate whether homophobic men show more sexual arousal to homosexual cues than nonhomophobic men as suggested by psychoanalytic theory. . . .
The results of this study indicate that individuals who score in the homophobic range and admit negative affect toward homosexuality demonstrate significant sexual arousal to male homosexual erotic stimuli. These individuals were selected on the basis of their report of having only heterosexual arousal and experiences. Furthermore, their ratings of erection and arousal to homosexual stimuli were low and not significantly different from nonhomophobic men who demonstrated no significant increase in penile response to homosexual stimuli. These data are consistent with response discordance where verbal judgments are not consistent with physiological reactivity, as in the case of homophobic individuals viewing homosexual stimuli. Lang (1994 ) has noted that the most dramatic response discordance occurs with reports of feeling and physiologic responses. Another possible explanation is found in various psychoanalytic theories, which have generally explained homophobia as a threat to an individual’s own homosexual impulses causing repression, denial, or reaction formation (or all three; West, 1977 ). Generally, these varied explanations conceive of homophobia as one type of latent homosexuality where persons either are unaware of or deny their homosexual urges. These data are consistent with these notions.
Another explanation of these data is found in Barlow, Sakheim, and Beck’s ( 1983) theory of the role of anxiety and attention in sexual responding. It is possible that viewing homosexual stimuli causes negative emotions such as anxiety in homophobic men but not in nonhomophobic men. Because anxiety has been shown to enhance arousal and erection, this theory would predict increases in erection in homophobic men. Furthermore, it would indicate that a response to homosexual stimuli is a function of the threat condition rather than sexual arousal per se. Whereas difficulties of objectively evaluating psychoanalytic hypotheses are well-documented, these approaches would predict that sexual arousal is an intrinsic response to homosexual stimuli, whereas Barlow’s (1986 ) theory would predict that sexual arousal to homosexual stimuli by homophobic individuals is a function of anxiety. These competing potions can and should be evaluated by future research.
The hypothesis that homophobic men are merely aggressive is not supported by the present data. There were no differences in aggression scores between groups as measured by the Aggression Questionnaire. . . .
June 12th, 2006 at 9:00 pmWow. In jest I mention Crhis’s secret desire for truckstop sex just one time, and he comes back to tell me *seven times* that I supposedly am the expert. Sorry to set off that little obsession for you, which is now coming to resemble something more than a little passing interest. Boy, you really, really fixated on that one. (pauses thoughtfully) And yet you wonder why people here think that you are a closet case?
So, rather than just having you spout the bigotry here, let’s see if you might actually engage one of the arguments surrounding a point that you made. I’ll go through this real slow and use simple words, because obviously this is something you have been having a tough time following. My guess is that you will simply respond with some oh-so-clever references to male genitalia, but here goes.
The reason that I pointed out your error in saying “70% of AIDS is caused by gay men,” beyond it not being true, is that it gets to the heart of the issue, or at least an important aspect of it. AIDS is caused by a virus, and that virus is spread by certain kinds of behaviors. One of these is sex without a condom (either male-male or male-female). This is aggravated by promiscuity, regardless of the sex of the person involved. So, if you are so concerned about AIDS, I would think that you must support both safe sex and monogamy.
This really leads to one conclusion, which, in your concern about AIDS, I imagine that you must advocate that:
1. Gay men should be forced into marriage and monogamy, and divorce for them should be prohibited.
2. Straight men also should be forced into marriage and monogamy, though divorce might be granted in extreme circumstances.
3. Straight women should have marriage and monogamy as an option, though they should be able to divorce at will.
4. Lesbians can do whatever they want. They are at nearly zero risk of becoming HIV positive through sexual contact. Run free, lesbians!
Since you are so concerned about AIDS, I imagine that this must be your position. Now, you could say “abstenence” but we know that doesn’t work for anyone of any sexual orientation (regardless of your current practices or lack thereof).
Now, go ahead and actually engage that argument, Chris. I wrote this earlier, but you were so obsessed about you-know-what (I don’t want to get you going again with your fantasies, Chris — focus! focus!) that you just went on about, well, something else. You are so much smarter than I am, so this really should be very easy for you. Let’s see it. Enlighten me. Anything less will just confirm for me once again that what you are saying here is based on nothing but bigotry based on some unresolved issues.
June 12th, 2006 at 10:22 pmOh, and I am far from blowing a gasket here. I actually think that this is kind of funny, and am beginning to wonder if you aren’t some sort of gay rights performance artist.
June 12th, 2006 at 10:27 pmpinky you cite various phsyciatric examples to make your point and you conviently left out the fact that until the early 1970’s homosexuality was on the American Psychiatric associations list of psychiatric disorders. why did the APA take homosexuality off the list?? beacuse they were badgered and basically forced to take it off the list by some gay activists. Since that time it has been a case of the Psychiatric community trying to look for any rationale they can to legitimize homosexual behavoir and demonizing with convoluted ideology anybody who dares question the validity of homosexuality as anything other than abhorrent and abnormal beahvoir. they have made the data suit the deviation and to discredit and ridicule anyone who dares speak out about homosexuality.
My hostility is not against homosexuality per se but against folks here who are little more than pro gay crusaders who try to demonize anybody against their lock step ideology.
There was no attack or war on gays until the whole ridiculous concept of so called gay “marriage” reared it’s ugly head. The responses now to the gay agenda is of course one of defense and offense. of course it is. You are trying to negate and re-define the whole concept of family what the hell do you expect? I know you just want to use catch phrases like homophobia and bigot to define the argument and anyone who disagrees with you is gasp – intolerant.
as for your lengthy and riduculous little monolouge on my being gay it just goes to prove how very wrong you are about everything. i have never had any inclination to be homosexual. never have , never will . you don’t know me outside of my writings here and you trying to “diagnose” me as latent homosexual is analagous to trying to define lung cancer while talking to someone over the phone. The only repressed desires I have is to go fishing but I am sure that you once again will read Freudian Oedipal psyco- babble into that too. It has now become fashionable in psychological nonsense to diagnose the noramal as the abnormal and the abnormal as normal. homosexuality is not normal and defending it as strong as you do only proves to me that in your vain but weak assumptions you deep down know you are wrong but will go to any lengths to try to convince yourself that you are right. You are like a dog chasing it’s tail and never able to catch it because you know once you do you won’t know what to do with it.
maybe you think of yourself as a closet shrink
but at diagnosis you plainly stink
nice try again but still you lose the debate because you have still not accepted the fact that I am right and calling me names and making false accusations makes you wrong.
June 12th, 2006 at 10:35 pmchris’ fascination with homosexuality continues:
28 posts in four consecutive days
even openly gay people don’t spend this much time talking about homosexuality.
chris is here practically begging for a sugar daddy. somebody get chris the number for a gay escort service in his area so he can get the man-love he needs.
June 12th, 2006 at 11:09 pmYou’re delusional.
June 12th, 2006 at 11:14 pmyou “fellas” here seem to know an awful lot about all kinds of sexual deviancy. you just keep proving to the world what degenerates you are and what the true gay agenda is. yet you still cannot debate the issue and come up with any valid points. like I have said in another post you continue this little charade because deep down you know you are wrong and that homosexuality is wrong but you fight in childish ways because you cannot accept the fact that you are wrong.
June 13th, 2006 at 6:34 amI will write 1000 posts to expose the sheer stupidity of trying to legitmize homosexuality. get used to it ..
OK, Chris. I will assume that your post # 617 is your response to my posts # 596 and # 612.
Wow. Your whole “I am right and you are wrong and a bunch of fags” is such a devastating critique of my argument. I am in awe of you powers of logic, and finally understand that I am truly dealing with a higher intelligence. I now understand that anyone who supports the equal protection clause of the Constitution is a “fella” who is really a sexual deviant. Damn Constitution causing the downfall of civilization! I now *get it*, man. I totally, totally get it.
The “sheer stupidity” of all who don’t bow down to your immense logic of “you are wrong and I am right” is now clearly revealed. I see the subtle logic in your post # 617, and understand how it demolishes the argument that I present in post # 612. Your logic truly rises above the need for “facts” (read: liberal reality conspiracy) and “logic” (read: lock step homo-ideology), and has truly revealed a whole new understanding. Now, whenever anyone asks me to explain something, to justify a position, I now know well enough to simply say: “I am right and you are a fag.” (Or is it: “Chris is right, and you are a fag”? Please, Chris, with the immense power of your cerebration, clarify this matter for me!)
With the enormous superiority of your logic, I expect that you can probably stop posting here now — anyone who can’t *get* the logic of your “I am right and you are a fag” argument is clearly incapable of understanding the absolute brilliance of your mind. With the obvious superiority of your intelligence, I am sure that now all homosexuality (including that practiced in the animal world) will simply end, allowing children to learn how to read again, permitting people to be able to understand maps, and to set us back to the paradise that humanity enjoyed 5000 years ago, when marriage *meant* something.
Thanks Chris! I *get it* now!
June 13th, 2006 at 12:15 pmsee weed I told you that if you just pay attention you would eventually get it!! I did not think you were quite as dumb as you sounded.
June 13th, 2006 at 12:22 pmI figured if you took the time to actually read the Constitution you would find no mention of homosexual or gay “marriage”.
good boy!! later we will start to go over some other things you need to eduacte yourself on and come up to speed on reality.
I knew ya had it in ya.
My Hero!
Wow, Chris. I know well enough now that when the 14th Amendment says “no state shall… deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws,” what that really means is “gays can’t get married.” After all, we don’t let gay people vote, do we? We don’t let them enter into other kinds of legally-binding agreements, do we? They don’t pay taxes, right? I mean, really! It’s not like they are citizens who have rights under the constitution, after all!
I am so glad that you have proven to me with your incredible logic that gay people really aren’t people at all, are not subject to the Constitution, and can be persecuted at will!
Still, though, I have that nagging question that I address in post # 612. Please clarify that for me again, just in case someone doesn’t see the validity of my “Chris is right and you are a fag” argument.
June 13th, 2006 at 12:32 pmJust in case anyone is interested, this is the part of the Constitution that is *obviously* bringing the downfall of our entire civilization:
“Amendment XIV
“Section 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside. No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws. ”
Boy, that last sentence is just ridiculously subversive, what with people being equal under the law and everything. Clearly the courts have bowed down to the homo agenda by declaring that gay people are actually, well, you know, people.
June 13th, 2006 at 12:46 pmChris:
Sorry to bug you again, but you wrote:
“I figured if you took the time to actually read the Constitution you would find no mention of homosexual or gay “marriageâ€.”
Now, I just read through the constitution and found that you (of course!) are right that it doesn’t say anything about gay marriage, just that stuff about equality under the law — something *obviously* inserted in there by the commie-queer-bolshevik-fags.
I did have a question, though. I recently received an ipod. Now, I would hate to be violating the constitution by owning it, so I just did a quick search through the Constitution to make sure that it was in there. To my chagrin, in *no place in the Constitution does it say that I have a right to own an ipod*!!! There was a bunch of vague stuff about property, but you think that the founders would have taken into account the general progress of society and technology and mentioned the ipod specifically. You know, because just like “equal protection of the laws” , the whole notion of “property” is simply too vague. Help me! Can I have an ipod or not? I await your wisdom.
June 13th, 2006 at 12:59 pmthere is a difference between ipods and gays. look it up in the dictionary if you don’t believe me. You may have your ipod.
June 13th, 2006 at 1:56 pmipods do not seek to re-structure the definition of the family, cause AIDS or lower the moral fiber of America. If you call legitimizing the gay lifestyle as “progress” then stop and sit down for a while and think about it. What next are we to legaliza and promote?? beastailty? polygamy? coprophagia? public sex? yeah lets have a class in the 6th grade about the benefits of S&M! How about kiddie sex-you like liitle boys… hey no problem, it says it’s ok in the Constitution!
Now here mr Weed. is where I want you to pay close attention and learn something. The line of decency and normalcy was drawn long ago. Society at large decided what was right and wrong and the basic premise of decency vs degeneracy has been clearly defined. So in conclusion the same Constitution that gives you the right to be gay if you so choose also gives the citizenry (that’s you and me and others in America) the right to continue to adhere to certain standards and principle to keep a decent society.
would you like to see men having sex with sheep outside of school windows ( I am almost afraid of your answer on this one) . well the equal protection act according to you under the Constitution might just allow it. You say that certain animals exhibit nueroses like homosexual behavoir – so what?? certain animals also piss on fire hydrants, copulate in public and eat their own dung. Are any of those considered “acceptable” in your circle of friends?? Once again I am almost afraid of the answer here but I’ll continue.
the real point is where do you draw the line and once you try to move that line, the line of acceptable behavoir where and when do you stop moving it. There is a sound reason why up until the last 20-30 years the world has looked with scorn on homosexuality. Have you ever heard the parable of Pandora’s Box?
I hope you have learned something from my little class and maybe if you keep your mind open to the concept of tradition, heritage and the old battle of right versus wrong there just migh be hope for you Mr. weed……
Again, Chris, I see the light. I now understand that we really, really need to go back to how things were 5000 years ago. I understand that two consenting adults having sex in the privacy of their home is the same thing as people and animals having sex in public. Why didn’t I see this before? The only real solution is for everyone to become like you: asexual. They could also follow your example and became painfully obese — just so nobody would be attracted to them and get ideas. After all, two people have sex, and the next thing you know, civilization ends.
By this same reasoning it is also clear that it is a slippery slope just saying that marriage is about “love” (something not mentioned in the Constitution and therefore to be discarded). I now realize that marriage should be strictly “traditional”: if I could only have a second chance, I would insist upon an arranged marriage with several pre-pubescent girls. They surely would be happy to be my property.
Obviously, tradition should rule and there should be absolutely no change because, well, then there would be all the kinds of crazy things that you mention here.
I now understand that right and wrong is absolute and unchanging, and that “traditional” institutions like marriage (the way it was 5000 years ago, not the deviant form we have now), slavery, witch burning, monarchy, exorcism, etc. should be strictly adhered to. Anyone who would even think about changing these long-running traditions is clearly a subversive.
And that includes those queer-lovers who wrote the 14th Amendment.
June 13th, 2006 at 2:13 pmaw hog your learning is coming so slow.
June 13th, 2006 at 3:06 pmsociety has been IMPROVED by banning slavery, monarchy and witch burnings. Nobody has said that gays should be prosecuted or persecuted for their choice to be homosexual but they should also NOT have the legitimization of marriage. Marriage is for one man and one woman only. That is one of the good things that society has adhered to.
i am glad you are taking “baby steps” to see the light but in my opinion you still have along way to go.
on a personal note how did you deduce that at 6′2″ @ 250 lbs that I am “obese”?? having a 52″ chest and 21″ biceps and having weightlifted and worked hard all my life I am far from being obese. I am getting a little older and not as fast at as i used to be in martial arts and boxing but I still do not take shit from too many people.
OK, so now I am starting to get the logic thing down. So when you say “tradition” you just mean the ones that you like and not the ones that you don’t, and then you also redefine “traditional marriage” over the last 5000 years to mean not the religious institution of one man and multiple prepubescent girls, but the civil institution of one man and one woman. You just have to redefine everything in a way that is more convenient. I get it now. And here I was falling into the liberal trap of words actually having certain meanings while you were *way* ahead of me with the whole post-modern shifting meanings / multiple simultaneous definitions thing that you got going on.
The whole weight thing is just good-natured ribbing. I am sure that *anyone* who spends as much time as you do in front of the computer, what with the “20 newspapers” that you read everyday and your new gay obsession thing, yeah, I am sure that that is all muscle.
June 13th, 2006 at 3:36 pmthanks for the ribbing- humor is good and as for the 20 papers online I read everyday I am a fast reader.
June 13th, 2006 at 3:56 pmI don’t know much about post-modernism and all I have tended to give up on modern culture.
I am semi-retired so i can use my day as I see fit.
all bullshit I aside I am staring to appreciate the dialog and all . As reasonable people ( or semi-reasonable at least) we can maybe agree to disagree. Gays can have their culture if they choose to and I am not espousing any persection but the marriage thing has gotten me ( and most of America) pretty disgusted. The marriage thing just turns most folks against gays because they feel it is changing our most sacred institution- marriage.
compromise is probably in order. Maybe a civil union or something similar. I do not wish really to see anyone be deprived of their inheritance rights or family hospital visiting rights or anything. I also do not want to see the definition of marriage cahnged either.
as for me being gay well I hope that was another attempt at “good natured ribbing”. i am most ceratainly not gay. i have worked with some gay people both gay and lesbian and on a personal level have no problem with it or them so long as certain protocols are adhered to. they do their thing with whom they want to and I do mine and never the twain shall meet between usin the sexuality dept.. I just do not and never will see or understand the same sex attraction.
Chris:
Glad to see you toning it down.
My interest in this, in addition to being a stickler for the notion of equality, is that I have a number of gay friends, many of whom in are very committed relationships. And this is in Oklahoma.
For example, my daughter attends school with twins who are the biological daughters of a lesbian, and who were adopted by this woman’s partner at the moment of their birth. My state’s laws do not recognize the adoption as legal, and, of course, do not recognize their relationship. So, even though they have been together for 15 years in a monogamous relationship (5 years longer than my wife and I), they don’t have the legal rights that my wife and I enjoy. In addition, since the state does not recognize the adoption, if anything should happen to the biological mother (car accident, etc.) the other mother has to grab the kids and head for New Mexico, about a 5 hour drive. Now, to have a situation like this and then to have someone like Inhofe claiming that this somehow protects families, is absolutely horrendous.
While my other gay friends don’t have anything this bad at the moment, I still don’t see why my relationship of 10 years with my wife is so much more valid than one of my other friend’s monogamous relationship with her partner since 1987.
I personally think that the best solution would be to get the state out of the marriage business. Right now marriage is two things: a religious, or “traditional” institution; and a legal contract. Let the churches do the marriage thing, and they can be free to define it any way that they want, refuse to recognize the unions that they don’t want to recognize, etc. Then there might also be a kind of “domestic partnership” that any two adults can enter into. This is essentially what my wife and I have: we had a civil ceremony with no mention of god.
This would let people keep their “traditional marriage” thing, and the rest of us keep the 14th Amendment.
Also, nobody has the intention to force things on the rest of the population. If you don’t like gay marriage, don’t have one. I personally don’t hunt. At the same time, the fact that the state sanctions hunting doesn’t force me to do it, doesn’t force me to validate it in any way. Ditto for gambling, watery beer, and Kenny G. We all have to put up with things that we find immoral or disgusting or incomprehensible in the behavior of others; the question is whether we are all equal under the law like the constitution says, or whether we are not.
I understand that you “just do not and never will see or understand the same sex attraction.” You don’t have to. I have seen plenty of happy straight marriages that defy my conceptions of sexual attraction, so I just keep it out of my mind and figure that they must be in love and that that should be respected. They have to sleep with eachother, I don’t. Same thing with same sex couples. It really is that easy.
Glad to see you taking a more even keel on this, Chris. You are starting to approach the position held by that communist Dick Cheney!
June 13th, 2006 at 5:14 pmChris is RIGHT, and the rest of the world is WRONG. Chris knows more than anyone else. Why, even the psychiatric community knows less than Chris. Chris, my deepest and most sincere apologies. If I had known you were God, I would never have argued with your RIGHTNESS about everything.
June 13th, 2006 at 7:04 pmpinky I am truly honored at your tribute but you might be suprised to know that I am not god and I will humbly say that I am not always right.. just most of the time , heh. All I am saying is that I have my own opinions and my own defintion of right and wrong that i have developed over a lifetime. I am in constant realization that I might be wrong on some things but on others I am steadfast in my convictions.I obviously grew up in a much different time than you and as such have different values and ideas.
June 13th, 2006 at 7:38 pmabout the psyciatric community I will just say that when I was young homosexuality was listed as amental disorder and from what reading I have done about the subject I believe that the decision to un list as such was done under pressure. Psyciatry is , of course a speculative science and always changing. Freud, Jung and even Frasier Crane are not all in agreement on everything. From the Greeks first assumtion of the subconscious and the concept of the soul to todays assumtions that there is no such thing as abhorent beahavoir at all nobody has come up with , in psycological terms a concrete concept of right and wrong. My pont in all this bullshit is where do you draw the line and who gets to draw that line?
Chris: The times they are a changin’. Once buggies were horse-drawn, now there are horseless carriages. Once blacks were slaves, now they are free. Once the psychiactric community considered homosexuality a disease, now they’ve learned it’s a natural state of being for all creatures in addition to heterosexuality. There is no line to be drawn, just knowledge to be learned and acted upon. As mankind progresses, we learn we were wrong about things, and those wrongs are righted by change. I’ve seen things change a lot since the 50s — perhaps we are not so far apart as you might think. Anyway, you’ve got your mind made up and nothing anyone can say, and no amount of reading up on things that you can do, is going to change what you think. The best thing about the United States is our freedom, but that freedom extends to everyone, not just heterosexuals. No one denies you your rights, my friend, please don’t advocate denying anyone else, in this instance gay people, their rights. No matter what you personally think about gay people, your thoughts on the subject do not entitle you to be an oppressor. We should all be free and enjoy the same rights — that includes marriage.
June 13th, 2006 at 8:07 pmthe self-loathing homosexual rantings of chris continue:
35 posts in 5 consecutive days!
unbelievable!
June 13th, 2006 at 9:24 pmchris is trying to go on record as the gayest person ever to not be able to recognize his own homosexuality…at this point all chris would have to do is come out of the closet and the log cabin republicans would make him their chairman for life.
chris’ gay parade marches on…
36 posts in five consecutive days, such is his non-stop dedication to homosexuality!
seriously chris, this is ridiculous. every time you post here, you only reinforce your credentials as a fully-fledged self-loathing closeted gay boy.
truth is i stopped reading your posts three days ago. i just find it hilarious that you’re so clueless as to how gay this makes you look. so keep on posting, secret queer! every post is another notch on the inside of your closet door.
June 13th, 2006 at 11:03 pmpogressorex you say you stopped reading my posts 3dyas ago then you respond imediately?? shows where your head is at. you must be the gay one to have such a vehement and silly response- grow up and maybe if you cut down on the hypocrisy and child like posts somebody (anybody) might start to believe you.
see once again truthful ( you must have given yourself THAT name , no one else would) you prove my point. You are the face of the new lwft and this is why you and your party have lost eklections and will continue to .
yours is the typical left wing anti white male stance. you have been brainwashed by feminist hate groups. Everybody is a victim right. Those evil white men right. You are a nutjob who needs serious mental counseling and needs to do a lot of growing up. You need to get out in the world not just listen to leftwing radicals who blame white men for the supposed problems of the world.
I believe that it is people like you and your ilk that are the true haters. You seem to find it easy to badmouth religion and tradition. your contempt is almost funny if you did not take it so serious.
your posts are bullshit and you are bullshit. You never can argue withan evangelical hysterical liberal like yourself. never try to teach a pig to sing, it wastes your time and annoys the pig. Well you truthful are the pig and your hate is really showing thru your semi literate ramblings. Maybe when you get out of high school and see what the world is really like you wil grow up and become a little more reasonable .
June 14th, 2006 at 11:42 amoh theose evil white men. if it was not for white men we would all be living in caves and scrating our nuts and eating raw meat. poor minorites and women – the politics of victimization.
you are a hook line and sinker lefty ain’t ya ?? you bought the old “white male privelege” bullshit from start to finish . just like your stupid bigoted politcal correctness which is nothing more than the language of white guilt.
you bigoted little small minded jerk. I am proud of being a white man and I will never make any apologies for it.
and then you like all libs throw in the jew card .
it is attitude like yours that turn people against lefties and libs. You are what you sat you hate. you hate white men and it is so obvious that it would be funny if it were not so pathetic.
you moronic little hypocrite. I must have hit a nerve to expose the hate which you ooze thru every word, every sentence.
I AM PROUD TO BE A WHITE MAN!!!
June 14th, 2006 at 8:15 pm38 POSTS IN SIX CONSECUTIVE DAYS!
chris continues his big gay adventure…when will it ever end?
will chris ever stop obsessing about gay people? will he ever get the man-love he secretly desires? can chris really be both this gay and this stupid? is there even a closet big enough for this hunk of ignorant repressed homosexuality?!
tune in here to find out more…
June 14th, 2006 at 8:17 pmthis could be the most brazen display of closeted gayness in modern history.
OOPS! chris’ gayness is so overwhelming he went and posted again! he just can’t help his gay self.
the official tally is now 39 POSTS IN SIX CONSECUTIVE DAYS!
it’s a veritable carnival of queerness when chris is around…
it’s official – the log cabin republicans will now refuse to allow chris to join them, because he is too gay. anyone who exhibits such overwhelming homosexuality deserves their own club. CHRIS: THE LOG GRABBIN’ REPUBLICAN
June 14th, 2006 at 8:42 pmprogresosaurrex you prove once again what a flaming idiot you are and prove my point about you homophiles being rcruiters for the fags. what do you need a few more homos signed up before you get your queer merit badge??
June 14th, 2006 at 8:54 pmjus becaus eyou like little boys doesn’t mean anybody else does.
I’l just bet you are a registered sex offender looking for new meat.
you should get off your mommies computer now and and go check the truckstops andplaygrounds to see if you can’t find some new queers. I hope you get AIDS too
who are you trying to convince?? you are not convincing me that is for sure. you go on and on and on and all you say is bullshit. Geta life and quit trying to save the world from us evil heterosexual white men will ya. i don’t even read your posts anymore i just see that you have posted and respond to your juvenile crap. grow up . the reason normal folks hate liberals is because of hypocries like you. But it is funny tho that you go over every word, every sentence just looking for something to bitch about. you know how you used to say because I rail against gays so much I am gay?? well i think you rail against “bigots” beacuse you are one yourself. You are just so consumed with bigotry because you are trying to attone for your own hatred and bigotry.
June 14th, 2006 at 9:36 pm40 POSTS!! SIX DAYS!!
CHRIS ACHIEVES AN UNPRECEDENTED LEVEL OF GAYNESS
what an overwhelming homosexual chris is. he just can’t stop talking about his unending devotion to being queer. CHRIS’ FAVORITE MOVIE: BLOKE-BACK MOUNTIN’
June 14th, 2006 at 9:47 pmNormal Folks??????? Wearing a white hood at night and burning crossses is normal???
June 14th, 2006 at 9:51 pmyou little child molesters here are funny! fag- back mountain eh? never heard of it.
June 14th, 2006 at 9:57 pmcareful god you just might get a cross burned yourself. I know all us normal folks are KKK and such right?? we don’t accept one of the sacred tenetes of liberaldom and do not worship at the feet of fagdom so therefore we are snif evil.goddam.
you guys or whatever you are musk all be fags here to get so mad at my intolerance of fagdom , had an AIDS test lately fagboys??
AIDS cures homosexuality.
chris, the non-stop homosexual rides again!
41 posts, six consecutive days…
this many posts only go to show what a complete and total queer chris is. chris is more gay than a pink moped with rainbow flags. when chris goes hunting (for guys) he always takes his mannlicher.
June 14th, 2006 at 10:19 pmholy closeted latent queer boys, batman!
chris’ gay escapade is now at 42 posts in six consecutive days!
chris ecstatic lust-ridden passion for gays is uncontrollable… he’s posting so fast i can’t even keep an accurate count of his self-administered gay boy reach-around festival. it boggles the mind. it must be some form of homosexual auto-erotic pontification. someone call andy dick! someone call the lambdas! chris is now a worthy candidate for ‘queer of the year’!
at this rate, chris will post over 2500 times in one year, all about how much he loves gay people.
June 14th, 2006 at 10:31 pm“It is written”And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient; Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers, backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents, Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful: Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them (Romans 1:28-32)”. Repent today you will enjoy the Judgement of Sodom and Gommorha.
June 15th, 2006 at 4:16 amWow you can recite the bible, I prefer quotes from rational, logical, thinkers. I can also put things in bold to, hahaha!!!!
June 15th, 2006 at 5:43 amRedundant.
Maintenant, Pour quel que chose nouveau sil vous plait? Nous parle en Francais?
Haha you Americain Idiot can not understand, muhahhahahahahahahaah!!!!!!!!!!!!!!hahahhahahahahahahahahah!!!!!!!!!!!!!
A name like reddog spells inbreed.
June 15th, 2006 at 10:24 amyeah god you are the authority on everything aren’t you?? . figures you speak french- the international language of fags,urine drinking, and chickenshits. france did refine surrendering to an art form. F**k france . you are not god just another goddam asshole witha computer.
June 15th, 2006 at 1:00 pmAfalobi and reddog: If you think that your invisible friend will smite you for sleeping with someone of the same sex, don’t do it. Of course, my invisible friend says that *you* will be smited for wanting others to be smitten (or smote? smoted? smiffed?). Ah, hell, thats all old folk tales anyway…
June 15th, 2006 at 1:10 pmI just couldn’t resist the number of this post…
Bwahahahahahahahahahahaha
bwahahahahahaahahahahahha
bwahahahahahahahahhahahahahaha
Fear me! I am a three digit number in which all the digits are the same!!!! Tremble!!!!
June 15th, 2006 at 1:22 pmhogweed it would be intersting to see you in a firefight, foxhole or burning building or dying of AIDS and see how much of an atheist you are then.
June 15th, 2006 at 2:20 pmGreat comeback, reddog. I had no idea that I might die someday. It had never occurred to me. Now that you point out to me that I might die, it makes perfect sense that there *must* be a sky deity.
Wow. Now I am convinced. After all, what better thing would a loving sky deity want than everyone terrified of him?
What an incredibly stupid comment. Are you now telling me that the only reason people don’t believe in your invisible friend is because they have never been faced with death? Well, I am a living example. I have been in a life-threatening accident and had a family member face death just a few months ago. Been in a firefight as well as a burning building. And yet here I am, still entirely unconvinced that an omnipotent, omniscient and benevolent deity exists.
How about if you have a family member die; watch someone suffer a long, debilitating chronic illness. Then tell me how great your invisible friend is. He either doesn’t exist, or he is a cosmic Saddam Hussein: get good stuff if you suck up to him; otherwise be tortured. Yeah, that is a being that really exists…
Surely your faith is on more solid grounds than simply fear of death? Is that the extent of it? If so, you really don’t have much faith at all. Your just scared and in denial of the fact that at some point reddog will cease to exist. You need to actually deal with that. That you think that I would somehow become a christian just because I am faced with mortality tells me that you haven’t done so yet.
June 15th, 2006 at 2:43 pmthe APA was forced into de listing homosexuality as a disorder by a bunch of evangelical homos like yourself. take your pity and shove it up your hole.
June 15th, 2006 at 7:26 pmif you really knew me you would know I have no fear and no insecurity what so ever. but you have this sterotypical view of me. you keep calling me old man and seek to degrade me to build yourself up. you think of yourself as tha faggot mother theresa don’t you?
June 15th, 2006 at 7:47 pmyou are also boring the absolute shit outta me so go ahead and get the last word, heck maybe in your own self centered righteousness and hypocrisy you can tell yourself you won……….but you did’nt.
reddog wrote: “I never said I was a Christian did I?? your own prejudices and judgemental views just assumed I was.”
I take it that that was directed at me. I never claimed that you were christian at all. Read my post. I did make the assumption that you were claiming that I would suddenly become one if I were scared enough. Perhaps you were thinking that anyone in a firefight, foxhole or burning building should become a Muslim? A Jew? I guess I just put my money on the idea that you were assuming that I would become a christian. That is *so* hateful of me!
On top of that, of course, you didn’t respond to what I wrote. But then you actually have to give some reasons, use logic, etc. And thinking coherently is pretty clearly not your strong point.
And don’t flatter yourself — I don’t think that your devastating critiques (smirk) of the “gay agenda” are getting anyone angry here. Speaking for myself, I read your posts much like I used to see the Jerry Springer show: hardly anything to get angry about, and it makes me realize how lucky I am to have a sound mind when there are people like you who have obviously lost theirs.
Have fun, reddog. You might actually become funny at some point if you ever learn how to write and/or develop a vocabulary. But then that might actually require some edjumacation, and I don’t see that happening anytime soon.
June 15th, 2006 at 10:33 pm50 POSTS! SEVEN DAYS! CHRIS DEFIES THE LIMITS OF REPRESSED HOMOSEXUALITY!
(and finally figures out he can post under a different name, “reddog”)
that’s right chris, we know you’re now posting as reddog. nice that it only took you a week to get your head out of your big gay ass (wonder how it got that way?) and try an identity change. well, it might prep you a bit for the sex change you need.
an entire week of homosexual exploits by chris. some man out there is really missing chris’ top-quality gay boy attention.
oh, and afolabi, quoting the bible to justify your hatred is like invoking jesus to justify a war. the well of christianity is poisoned by people like you.
June 15th, 2006 at 11:24 pmAMAZING! CHRIS HAS EVEN MORE TIME FOR GAYS!
June 15th, 2006 at 11:40 pmHE’S POSTING IN ANOTHER THREAD ABOUT HOW MUCH HE THINKS ABOUT GAYS!
WHAT A BIG SURPRISE!
Oh dear lord, this never stops.
On your post, Chris (#656), you basically said you were in the KKK. And you were saying for us people who oppose you to ‘watch out’, or we will have a cross burned in our yard. Do you know what Chris? You can and will be arrested for that henious act against humanity. That kind of bigotry is not accepted anymore, and soon the bigotry against homosexuals will be a crime, if it is not already.
Then, reddog said that us ‘liberals’ have ‘used every nasty disgusting way to be as nasty and sick as you can’. Excuse me? We are not the one cursing people, yelling at people, and outright telling people to go to hell (that place doesn’t exist anyways).
reddog, we are being polite compared to you. Yes, we are using insults, but atleast we don’t have to make you squint your eyes to read our posts. Are minor insults to much for you to handle?
June 15th, 2006 at 11:50 pmJohnny, i would love to see that “scientific†poll about evangelical men. That study is a lie strait from the pits of hell, and you know it. NOT ONE study has EVER said that you are born gay, did you know that johnny??
Comment by Kyle Cotner — June 7, 2006 @ 4:18 pm
actually, there are a few. http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2003/11/031118074946.htm, for one.
June 16th, 2006 at 5:02 pmI’m coming to this site a little late, I see, but so many of the comments here are so funny I just had to offer general congratulations to the many good libs who obviously hang out here. It surprising indeed that any weird right wingnuts have even bothered to spew their bile at you, since you are all so demonstrably able to shoot them down.
By the way, I live in a very Republican County in Texas and I, too, am amazed that our populist energy of yore has somehow been hijacked by the likes of Karl Rove, a closet case if ever there was one. I am wondering how I got into this rapidly moving handbasket!
June 17th, 2006 at 3:32 pmIt seems that every female I know including my wife has had at least one same-sex encounter. Where are they in Inhofe’s book?
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