ThinkFast PM: June 6, 2006
ThinkFast PM: June 6, 2006
Louisiana Gov. Kathleen Blanco (D) said yesterday she will sign a near-total ban on abortion about to pass the state legislature, despite the fact that it includes no exceptions for victims of rape or incest. Blanco said those exceptions “would have ‘been reasonable,’ but she said she wouldn’t reject the bill for that reason.”
Jonathan Hoenig, a guest on Fox News’ Your World with Neil Cavuto: “[F]rankly, if you want to see the Dow go up, let’s get the bombers in the air and neutralize this Iranian threat.”
“In more than 8,000 surveys conducted last year in eight predominantly Muslim nations, a majority of respondents said women in the Muslim world have the same capabilities and deserve the same fundamental rights as men.”
Mother Jones has launched OceanVoyager.org, which highlights the numerous threats facing our oceans. “What’s noteworthy about the site is that it doesn’t focus on the work of one organization, but rather highlights the best of the best of what a multitude of nonprofits are doing to conserve our oceans.”
“The Happy Face is Watching You.” GroupIntel details the massive amount of customer data collected by Wal-Mart, whose “data centers are the corporate counterpart to Area 51,” and which has “enough storage capacity to contain twice the amount of all the information available on the Internet.”
And finally: An obligatory ‘666′ anecdote for June 6, 2006, from an individual whose phone number was changed to 666-6666 and who suddenly started receiving an “amazing number of ‘googoo gaagaa’ calls. … Apparently pounding repeatedly on the 6 button is a fairly easy thing for a baby to do.”
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Andrew Sullivan has an audio post up where he interlaces his comments/feedback to Bush’s radio address on the FMA (gay marriage) with his own commentary. He’s calling it a “pod-fisk”. Worth checking out at his dailydish webpage.
June 6th, 2006 at 8:41 pmThis whole thing about Blanco just shows that women are not only being attacked from the right but from the left as well. Her insistence on signing a bill that doesn’t even protect rape and incest victims is alarming to say the least. I’m just curious about how she would feel if she had to look into the face of her new-born baby that was also her brother.
June 6th, 2006 at 8:41 pmSorry – link:
http://time.blogs.com/daily_dish/2006/06/podfisking.html
June 6th, 2006 at 8:42 pmBlanco said those exceptions “would have ‘been reasonable,’ but she said she wouldn’t reject the bill for that reason.â€
Oh well, good enough. Stupid vote whore.
June 6th, 2006 at 8:50 pm(My apologies to whores)
Save the internet.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xOJnKgsWPGw
http://www.youtube.com
get anythng you want, share and enjoy.
June 6th, 2006 at 8:52 pmApparently pounding repeatedly on the 6 button is a fairly easy thing for a baby to do.â€
Especially the evil baby Damien, bwaaahahahaha!
June 6th, 2006 at 8:53 pmFor the evening crowd:
My take on the overlooked fact that removing Geneva Article 3 from the Army Field Manual allows the military to join the CIA in practicing torture. While everyone is concentrating on discussing what “humiliating” and “degrading” means, the real story is hidden underneath.
June 6th, 2006 at 8:58 pmHey #2, here in west virigina we find our best dates at a family reunion.
June 6th, 2006 at 8:58 pmHumor off.
“Louisiana Gov. Kathleen Blanco (D) said yesterday she will sign a near-total ban on abortion about to pass the state legislature, despite the fact that it includes no exceptions for victims of rape or incest. ”
Need to run a real Democrat against this repugnican-light governor. Its not like she did well when Katrina hit either. She was almost as non effective as Fema and the Shrub administration.
June 6th, 2006 at 8:58 pmI agree Wayne, just because someone runs on the Democrat ticket doesn’t mean they’re worthy.
We must send a message to all politicians, we will kick all assholes to the curb. We dont care what party they are affiliated with.
June 6th, 2006 at 9:05 pmOf course, we could never ever vote for a republican but these dems need to know that if they act like a stupid republican, they will be treated like a stupid republican.
If we get the bombers in the air and neutrazlize the christian threat, I think we could accomplish alot more.
June 6th, 2006 at 9:24 pmGov. Blanco should resign her position immediately > this anti-abortion law she is helping pass is ridiculous, plus her response to Hurricane Katrina was criminal negligence! She also allowed Blackwater mercenaries to come into New Orleans to murder Black citizens > shame on her!
June 6th, 2006 at 9:50 pmYou can’t abort fetuses that will become babies, then full-grown adults that can go off to war and die for the empire. You must allow them to go to full term.
ban abortion, train the children to become human chattel that can go off to war for the imperium.
next stop Iran; war is groovy. God said so.
June 6th, 2006 at 9:53 pmJonathan Hoenig works for something called Capitalistpig Asset Management. Boy, has he ever found a home.
June 6th, 2006 at 9:56 pmI’m so happy that the GOP is trying to preserve marriage. The last thing we need is more weddings to go to. The gifts, the travel, the fake conversations about the weather. It’s horrible. Everyone all dressed up eating, drinking and having a good time. We don’t need any more of that.
June 6th, 2006 at 10:15 pmLet’s keep them all seperated and afraid. Like Jack and Enis in Brokeback. Sure they were unhappy, wasted thier lives… yadda-yadda. But at least we didn’t have to go to ANOTHER celebration of love. Yuck. Love is so ugly. Who needs that stuff?
An obligatory ‘666′ anecdote for June 6, 2006,
When I was driving cross country last year I encountered a road name change in Utah near Moab. They are remaining Highway 666 ito something benign like 435. The amazing thing to me was that it took them this long to make the switch.
June 6th, 2006 at 10:35 pmEspecially the evil baby Damien, bwaaahahahaha!
Comment by Zookeeper — June 6, 2006 @ 8:53 pm
There’s a new movie for you… Just came out today.
Well, I realize it’s still an hour and 20 minutes to go – but doesn’t look like the Rapture was scheduled for today after all… But I bet it got a lot of people to church recently. Bet it’ll be easier to get a seat this coming Sunday however…
June 6th, 2006 at 10:39 pmWe have almost 4 hours here in CA. I think the rapture freaks still have hope.
June 6th, 2006 at 10:46 pmBlanco is a tool and that Jon Hoenig is a grade a fascist capitalist doucher.
I hope they are both out of work soon.
-GSD
June 6th, 2006 at 10:51 pmIt would be pretty funny to have all the reichwing christofascists “raptured” today..and when they got face to face with Jesus..he’d say..check the date…it was not our “rapture” this time but somebody who’s work you all have really been doing…..
June 6th, 2006 at 10:51 pmI wonder what’ll come first; the Rapture or a Rove indictment.
June 6th, 2006 at 10:57 pmAs if we don’t have enough problems here in New Orleans, now Blanco is signing this trash? I think she’s begging us to vote her out of office.
June 6th, 2006 at 10:59 pmWe have almost 4 hours here in CA. I think the rapture freaks still have hope.
Comment by Linda — June 6, 2006 @ 10:46 pm
I remember the months prior to 2000, when zealots with billboards would comb the streets telling us the end was upon us… I always wondered what happens to those people when they wake up the day after and find out they were wrong…
June 6th, 2006 at 11:09 pmSo bombing a country, in this case Iran, makes the Dow climb?
Didn’t the US today come to some kind of Agreement with Iran?
or did I misread that report?
WOW, so If we bombed a country like say, Cuba, the wouldnt the stock market also climb? Besides the bombers wouldn’t have far to fly, then why shouldn’t we also just bomb the hell outta Mexico and take their OIL as well. Ohh But Canada is the Bacon!! Right Hoenig? Think of all that Piggy Capitalist Bacon!!
Makes me sweat 100 dollar bills just to think about.
Hoenig is a Khazar then? A pig?
The name, for Hoenig, and his Ilk would be ComIntern, or more fitting, or Perhaps Cap-I-Coms. Is this what College teaches people today, Greed? War is Profitable? Death is Progress?
Death of innocent folks is needed to make the stocks rise?
My My, Seems to me as we have FOUND our friend Satan, right here in America.
Hoenig is but one of Satans minions, yet surely he can lead us to Volos Bush, or Veles Cheney then? Perhaps Mr Hoenig speaks of the Volos club aka Molech club, better know as the Bohemian Grove.
See it wasn’t hard to Find Satan, because he’s a Bush Cheney Capitalist Khazar!!
Rock the KazBar!!
June 6th, 2006 at 11:11 pmRock the KazBar!!
#17, #18 – hahahahahahah. Just our little joke really. I’m sorry everyone got wound up about the date. I mean come on sports fans, the year 0 AD was picked out of a hat by Dionysius Exiguus back in the 6th century. Jesus H Christ, no wonder the Da Vinci Code is making so much money.
June 6th, 2006 at 11:17 pmThe end time, the crossing of the Galactic Horizon, the hand of the universal clock passing midnite, will not begin until 2012.
Time has skewed somewhat, so others put that date around 2016 to 2056.
The snake eating it’s tail, the Taurus of time, the Bull, the Baal, the figure 8, the Gibbor aka the giver. Like the Ankh, doubled.
Heres from Socrates, actually its the words of Timaeus;
When he had mingled them with the essence and out of three made one, he again divided this whole into as many portions as was fitting, each portion being a compound of the same, the other, and the essence. And he proceeded to divide after this manner:-First of all, he took away one part of the whole [1], and then he separated a second part which was double the first [2], and then he took away a third part which was half as much again as the second and three times as much as the first [3], and then he took a fourth part which was twice as much as the second [4], and a fifth part which was three times the third [9], and a sixth part which was eight times the first [8], and a seventh part which was twenty-seven times the first [27]. After this he filled up the double intervals [i.e. between 1, 2, 4, 8] and the triple [i.e. between 1, 3, 9, 27] cutting off yet other portions from the mixture and placing them in the intervals, so that in each interval there were two kinds of means, the one exceeding and exceeded by equal parts of its extremes [as for example 1, 4/3, 2, in which the mean 4/3 is one-third of 1 more than 1, and one-third of 2 less than 2], the other being that kind of mean which exceeds and is exceeded by an equal number. Where there were intervals of 3/2 and of 4/3 and of 9/8, made by the connecting terms in the former intervals, he filled up all the intervals of 4/3 with the interval of 9/8, leaving a fraction over; and the interval which this fraction expressed was in the ratio of 256 to 243. And thus the whole mixture out of which he cut these portions was all exhausted by him. This entire compound he divided lengthways into two parts, which he joined to one another at the centre like the letter X, and bent them into a circular form, connecting them with themselves and each other at the point opposite to their original meeting-point; and, comprehending them in a uniform revolution upon the same axis, he made the one the outer and the other the inner circle. Now the motion of the outer circle he called the motion of the same, and the motion of the inner circle the motion of the other or diverse. The motion of the same he carried round by the side to the right, and the motion of the diverse diagonally to the left. And he gave dominion to the motion of the same and like, for that he left single and undivided; but the inner motion he divided in six places and made seven unequal circles having their intervals in ratios of two-and three, three of each, and bade the orbits proceed in a direction opposite to one another; and three [Sun, Mercury, Venus] he made to move with equal swiftness, and the remaining four [Moon, Saturn, Mars, Jupiter] to move with unequal swiftness to the three and to one another, but in due proportion.
June 6th, 2006 at 11:18 pmMmm, Democrats in the South acting like Republicans, what a shocker. The Democrats strategy of acting like Republicans for the past 14 years hasn’t been working that well, but that doesn’t mean they’ll stop trying….
June 6th, 2006 at 11:26 pm#16 Unbeleivable,
The part of Highway 666 in AZ hasn’t been changed, It’s over in my travels from Flagstaff AZ.
June 7th, 2006 at 12:11 amReasonable…nice words for the situation where a woman´s world fall apart. They protect people in wombs but have no remorse about blowing the brains of a three years old. What a wonderful world.
June 7th, 2006 at 12:58 amBlanco must have been really messed up by that hurricane. She left citizens on their rooftops while she had a snit with the prez. Now she’s leaving women on the roof so she doesn’t have to confront the right wing noise machine.
June 7th, 2006 at 1:10 amIf Bush attacks Iran, I’m supporting Iran against naked U.S. aggression as well as Bush’s immediate downfall. I say this as a patriot who supports the U.S. Constitution against all enemies, including its biggest enemy, the Criminal Bush Regime.
June 7th, 2006 at 1:55 amA charming set of posts on this thread – more proof that America has become a rogue nation when the Geneva Convention is now ignored (WTF is “core values training” in a military no longer bound by the Geneva Convention?) and more proof that politicians do not give a damn about their constituency in Blanco. Unbelievable.
June 7th, 2006 at 3:58 amSpeaking of 666…
Damien, Demons and Dubya, by Mo Do.
June 7th, 2006 at 8:00 amI’m sorry everyone got wound up about the date.
Comment by Jesus Christ — June 6, 2006 @ 11:17 pm
Just joking… I don’t believe in any of that stuff, or frankly – you :)
June 7th, 2006 at 8:05 amThe part of Highway 666 in AZ hasn’t been changed, It’s over in my travels from Flagstaff AZ.
Comment by For Truth — June 7, 2006 @ 12:11 am
I’m sure it’s just one anxious zealot away from changing as well… :)
June 7th, 2006 at 8:07 amJonathan Hoenig, a guest on Fox News’ Your World with Neil Cavuto: “[F]rankly, if you want to see the Dow go up, let’s get the bombers in the air and neutralize this Iranian threat.â€
I admit that I am not the most perfect citizen in the country, but you have to agree that there is something morally reprehensible about a person who believes that it’s okay to kill people just to make money. Hoenig is the kind of person society can most certainly do without.
June 7th, 2006 at 8:17 am“Love thy neighbor as thine own self.” – Jesus
A tough thing to do. The US would rather bomb its global neighbors into oblivion and call it pre-emptive war. Iran would rather bomb Iraq for years on end. Iraq would rather bomb Iran for years on end. The Nazis would rather kill Jews than be their neighbors. The Jews would rather build walls to keep out their Palestinian neighbors.
“Jesus said: Love thy neighbor. I do. I love to kill him.” – the words of a Croat during the war and break up of Yugoslavia
It is better to break the tenth commandment and covet everything your neighbor has, that way it is easy to love yourself.
It pays to hate your neighbor.
June 7th, 2006 at 8:46 amAndrew Sullivan has an audio post up where he interlaces his comments/feedback to Bush’s radio address on the FMA (gay marriage) with his own commentary. He’s calling it a “pod-fiskâ€.
Comment by DrSinker #1
DrSinker,
Andrew Sullivan, Mary Cheney, Guererrio and ALL of the Log Cabin Republiscum DESERVE exactly what they’re getting…
…with the exception of republiscum of color, they’re the most DISGUSTING of TRAITORS…
June 7th, 2006 at 9:00 amIn the old days, when you had to dial a phone number, my sister got a lot of baby calls – her number began 1-212-2….. The funniest part was when an adult would get on the line saying ‘Where is this…?’
June 7th, 2006 at 9:08 amHoenig is the kind of person society can most certainly do without.
Comment by Wayne A. Schneider #36
Then DO something Wayne…
…email this mass murdering, greedy fu*k…
google Capitalistpig LLC…
…I just did, and sent him a nice greeting and commentary on his SICK opinion…
June 7th, 2006 at 9:13 amAlso, EVERYONE on TP should email that B*tch Blanco…
…and tell her to go get fu*ked…
June 7th, 2006 at 9:22 amIn a more lighthearted mood, one of our cats had a birthday on 6/6–and her 13th one at that. I suppose I should be glad that no strange cultists know about this or know how to contact us.
June 7th, 2006 at 9:46 amOkay, big papa, I did something. I let Fox News Channel know what I thought of Mr. Hoenig’s “performance”.
June 7th, 2006 at 9:48 amJudd you forgot to post this one:
A former Republican congressman narrowly beat his Democratic rival early Wednesday to fill the House seat once held by jailed Randy “Duke” Cunningham, one of several contests in eight states closely watched as a possible early barometer of next fall’s vote.
Republican Brian Bilbray emerged victorious after a costly and contentious special election race against Democrat Francine Busby, a local school board member.
The race was viewed by Democrats as an opportunity to capture a solidly Republican district and build momentum on their hopes to capture control of the House.
June 7th, 2006 at 10:11 amOkay, big papa, I did something. I let Fox News Channel know what I thought of Mr. Hoenig’s “performanceâ€.
Comment by Wayne A. Schneider
Thanks Wayne!
June 7th, 2006 at 10:19 amDC Is NOT A Bastion Of Virtue!
Wednesday 7th of June 2006
by Jay Randal
The Politicians in Washington, DC, would be wise to never pontificate on virtue, because many are WAR whores, CORPORATE whores, or sleep with whores!
Most Americans detest hypocrites, so nobody in DC has enough purity to rail against Gay marriages, or any other sexual taboo foisted upon the US citizenry!
The double-standards in our nation’s capital boggle the mind, and nobody accepts any president of either party to preach about sex like some prophet of Bible!
President Bill Clinton believed he could get away with secret BJs in the Oval Office, but he got caught in his lust, so suffered humiliation before the entire nation!
He almost got impeached for lying about his sexual affair, but consensual trysts do not rise to the level of a high crime or misdemeanor requiring removal!
President George W. Bush thinks that his born-again Christian beliefs exonerate his past life of drinking and whoring, but his pathological lying denotes otherwise!
( Jay Randal, political activist and writer in Stone Mountain, Georgia.)
June 7th, 2006 at 10:19 amThe race was viewed by Democrats as an opportunity to capture a solidly Republican district and build momentum on their hopes to capture control of the House.
Comment by Ben #44
…republiscum al Crackers are incorrigible…
…and unshakeable…
…they’d rather cannibalize their babies…
…than elect an honest Democrat…
June 7th, 2006 at 10:21 amMeet the Alliance for the Restoration of Peace and Counter-Terrorism, or the ARPCT for short. The are our new best friends in the GWOT. And find out why they are fleeing with their tails between their legs in Somalia. My post is about what not to do in the War on Terror.
June 7th, 2006 at 10:23 amDING DING DING DING DING
# 49&50&51
She’s bIaaaaaack.
June 7th, 2006 at 11:31 amReligious ideologists consider their ability to deny the obvious a FEAT OF FAITH.
This is why people e.g. Kathleen Blanco, feel faithful and closer to God when they refuse to accept an atheist’s logic.
The better atheists make their case, the more people feel faithful and closer to God when they refuse to accept.
Note this same process occurs in a zealots POLITICAL ideology which is why, despite Mighty Mouth proposing he is here to ‘represent a minority view’ he is not. In fact M Mouth is here to feel more loyal to his partisan base – that’s also why he continues to post here. The better partisans make their case, zealots feel more loyal and closer to their base when they refuse to see the obvious. Remember zealots are indoctrinated by definition.
Blind faith gives the believer a free pass to refuse to see what the other side is saying. Denial of the obvious is a key component of religious faith, and believers bring their denial and doctrine with them wherever they go e.g. church or political blogs.
Their mandatory prioritization of defending their faith or loyalty (in God or Party) above all else is what makes religious zealots, Christian or otherwise, poisonous to good moral behaviour. For example, their hatred of atheism.
When zealots address the concept of atheism, they construct their own version of it, and then criticize the straw man they made. For example, zealots act as if ‘atheism’ is an actual philosophy of life, and then they criticize it for essentially being a philosophy of ‘nothing.’
Atheism is merely the absence of a certain brand of invisible god lunacy. That’s it. Nothing more. It is NOT A PHILOSOPHY.
I cannot name one atheist who, when asked to name his or her philosophy of life, would reply ‘atheism.’ Atheism is about the zealot, not us. Zealots define others by whether people believe in an invisible god or not. To them, I’m an a-theist because I’m not a theist like they are.
Zealots will never truly understand those of us who have rejected invisible god belief unless they can be open to considering how we define ourselves rather than how they define us – and to acknowledge that there is a wide variety of philosophies that do not include primitive myths at their centre.
The actual philosophies of various atheists are roads to, for example, Metaphysical naturalism and secular humanism.
I hope that once zealots grasp that the “atheism” they scream against is really a straw man, they may be on their way to understanding how those of us who have no god to submit to, and no hell to fear, can have lives as complete, satisfying and moral as anyone else’s.
June 7th, 2006 at 11:41 amThere’s a new movie for you… Just came out today.
Comment by unbelievable
I’m not going to see that one. I saw the original in 1976 — as an infant ;)/em>– it was stupid then and it’s stupid now. I saw the trailer for it the other day, and it was so long I think I saw the whole movie anyway. :P
June 7th, 2006 at 11:49 amIn the old days, when you had to dial a phone number…
Comment by Lisa
Holy shit, have I missed something?
June 7th, 2006 at 11:54 amyou lost it/her/he/all!!!
Comment by and now? — June 7, 2006 @ 11:50 am
Oh that’s a surprise, another Godidiot.
You can’t lose what you never had, Godidiot. What I choose to allow myself to be irked by is not so much your ignorance but your arrogance and ego which enable you to feel you are something so special you are going to live forever.
In doing so, you choose to corrupt a beautiful philosophy into a despicable religion.
I know you will never listen to my logic or facts as you are the one who is truly ‘lost’. You will continue to post to feel closer – and more faihful – to an invisible imaginary image. You don’t even know what that imaginary invisible image is do you?
What do you refer to such nonsense as……it/her/he/all.
Yet you pray to it! So you admit you pray to something and you don’t even know what it is? Are you going to argue you are human and therefore incapable of understanding what it is? Consider this;
“The matter can be put like this: either God wanted to let himself be known by man or he didn’t want to be. If he wanted man to know him and he didn’t succeed [atheists] this can only demonstrate that he is impotent; an impotent God is inadmissible. If God didn’t want to be known then all religions are false. If God didn’t want either one, then we have to conclude that God does not exist” – Dr. Carret.
June 7th, 2006 at 12:08 pmSo, Godidiot – you refuse to acknowledge my logic and argue reasonably? What a shock. Just another useless, stupid, post – a waste of electrons – from a troll.
Remember, Godidiots, that one of the three reasons Christ is seen as a true God and not yet another Pagan God from a stack of Pagan Gods with whom Christ shares many attributes and traditions;
according to your church father, Justin Martyr c. 100 A.D. – c. 165 A.D., is because “before He became a man among men, some, influenced by the demons before mentioned, related beforehand, through the instrumentality of the poets, those circumstances as having really happened, which, having fictitiously devised, they narrated, in the same manner as they have caused to be fabricated the scandalous reports against us of infamous and impious actions”- First Apology, Chapter XXIII
in other words, Christ is not a Pagan god because the Devil went back in time and copied Christs attributes to Pagan Gods. That’s it – the basis for why Jesus was a real god and not another make believe god.
1900 years later and Blanco – a Godidiot who fell for this bullshit – now votes in your political system for forced gestation.
source link proof from translated texts of Martyr here
June 7th, 2006 at 12:47 pmJABBS has an interesting item on Rush Limbaugh flipping and flopping as he tries to talk about abortion, Plan B and related items. A caller successfully got Limbaugh to flop away from his fringe-right listeners, and toward the truth.
June 7th, 2006 at 1:14 pmComment by Ron
And forbid them water access, restrain salaries, destroy their houses with tanks, rolling over them with tanks, bomb them and yes, kill them.
June 7th, 2006 at 1:16 pmComment by and now?
Too much coffee.
June 7th, 2006 at 1:21 pmTo poster “comment by and now?”
What the f**k have you been smoking? I can only assume you are under the influence of something.
June 7th, 2006 at 1:39 pmComment by and now?
WHICH PART DID YOU MISSED IT?
Do you mean “which part did I miss?”.
Obviously you missed plenty. Especially english class.
You, and your ilk, are a joke!!!! GOD is laughing at you too!!!!
June 7th, 2006 at 1:56 pmGOD is laughing at you too!!!!
Comment by Dyan — June 7, 2006 @ 1:56 pm
Dyan, it looks like the Godidiot is collecting ‘angels’ now! Evangelists are religious fascists which is why they adopt political fascism so easily: they share the will to dominate all life on earth.
Most people who do not take the bible literally think the bible originated from folklore, illiterates who for generations, told stories over camp-fires to propagate morality and entertain their hosts/guests – and then someone wrote it all down.
This is way oversimplified. 2000 years ago people were not stupid, they just lacked technology. They were devious, calculating, corrupt, some of them extremely wealthy, some were educated – in their way – they travelled widely and some could read and write. 2000 years ago there were judiciaries and rulers and warriors and slaves and merchants and traders and explorers and philosophers and farmers and cities.
Bear in mind how organised, intelligent and imaginative the Roman and Egyptian civilisations were. Imagine we lost all our technology today, right now, and think how would people behave? Any differently than those 2000 years ago? Hardly. We see the same behaviours in today’s politicians as we did 2000 years ago.
For some ignorant reason, people generally today think that because we have technology we ‘think’ or ‘behave’ differently to those people 2000 years ago. Why then do we have Pat Robertson’s with their towering egos and arrogance? Why then do we still have people leading us who have insatiable thirsts for power, wealth and control?
Christianity began as a CULT and it was very well organised. With Pagan traditions and additional imagination, ruthless suppression (Saul of Tarsus recommended killing those who vehemently opposed him), deliberate lies and a thirst for power and wealth, early Christianity was NO mere camp-story-telling, romantic nonsense.
Saul of Tarsus travelled widely and he created a wide network that could communicate – Saul wrote of how he would receive letters and travel back and forth quashing dissent as and when it arose within his ‘territory’.
The story of Christ was created by a well known process called MIDRASH. This is not an itchy patch around your belly button :)
Midrash is a process by which a mythological character is meticulously inserted into historical settings to add validity to an allegorical/symbolic message. It’s insipid.
The fools who fell for this crap 2000 years ago are falling for it today. Yeah, technology really does make us different………………
June 7th, 2006 at 2:22 pm#72
You are a complete nutcase (as many religious zealots are). You really need to seek counseling.
June 7th, 2006 at 2:26 pmBritish Gary
I love reading posts from intelligent people with critical thinking skills. I wish I could write like you.
June 7th, 2006 at 2:30 pmHey British Gary long time no hear…
June 7th, 2006 at 2:32 pmSSSSSSSSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH…..:)I’m leaking help me help me all the air is leaking out ……LOL WITH ALL YOU…sent me more bondo quick before my head is empty. MINUS THE DARKMAN……;)
Comment by and now? — June 7, 2006 @ 2:31 pm
June 7th, 2006 at 2:34 pmDid this person just quote themselves? Oy!
June 7th, 2006 at 2:35 pmSpudge it can’t helop itself it has a air leak
June 7th, 2006 at 2:37 pmYou can bet your ass Hoenig wouldn’t be in one of those airplanes. He would be war profiteering. Somebody should ask why at his age he isn’t in uniform now. I’m betting another candyass chickenhawk along with Cavuto. If anyone can remember when doughboy Cavuto started and why he thinks mouse makes him”cool” now please explain.
June 7th, 2006 at 2:40 pmAt the time Jesus was said to have lived, many mythological entities were ascribed the following 22 traditions (this data comes from a book titled, “The Hero” by Lord Raglan). I’ve put a * by those that the story of Jesus agrees with and a X by those that don’t match;
1. mother is a royal virgin*
2. father is a king *
3. father a relative of mother*
4. circumstances of conception are unusual*
5. Saviour is a son of God*
6. as a baby father attempts to kill Him*
7. but He is spirited away*
8. and reared by foster parents in a foreign country X
9. we’re told nothing of His childhood*
10. on reaching manhood He returns and goes to His future kingdom*
11. after victory over a King/Giant/Dragon X
12. He marries a princess X
13. becomes King*
14. reigns uneventfully*
15. prescribes laws*
16. later He loses favour with subjects*
17. and is driven from throne/city*
18. meets with mysterious death*
19. at the top of a hill*
20. children if any do not succeed Him*
21. Body is not buried*
22. Has one or more holy sepulchres*
Now if we put together a list of mythological characters at the time Jesus was said to have lived, with the number of the 22 traditions listed above each hero meets, we create a ‘Hero Score’:
a. Oedipus 22
June 7th, 2006 at 2:45 pmb. Theseus 20
c. Jesus 19
d. Romulus 17
e. Hercules 17
f. Perseus 16
g. Zeus 15
h. Jason 15
i. Robin Hood (later than Christ but gets an interesting) 13
j. Apollo 11
women in the Muslim world have the same capabilities and deserve the same fundamental rights as men
Christianity was Invented to control man
June 7th, 2006 at 3:02 pmIslam was invented to control women
I wish I could write like you.
Comment by Dyan — June 7, 2006 @ 2:30 pm
You are. Are you a man? Stop putting yourself down or I’ll feed you to Zookeeper – she knows how to handle men. Thanks for the compliment. Just so you gauge my comments in proportion, I harbour no malcontent towards Christians who make the Christian message (or philosophy) a moral code by which they choose to live their lives. I despise extremists who corrupt and steal a wonderful philosophy to dominate others and gain wealth. I enjoy pointing out to them the many inconsistencies in the otherwise ‘infallible’ book for extremists…….
Hey British Gary long time no hear…
Comment by Clif — June 7, 2006 @ 2:32 pm
Hiya Clif, I’ve been giving thought to our last conversation regarding freedom of speech and have come to conclude you are correct. Thankyou for your wisdom and salient reasoning. I really enjoyed our debate.
June 7th, 2006 at 3:02 pmLL COO J….THE J STAND FOR JESUS NOT JACK ASS LIKE YOU!!!!…I MA OUT HERE FOR NOW SEE YA!!!!!!!!……thanks judd!……..;)…..don’t bother to answer othello i will not read it!!! ciao ciao bellissimi!
Comment by and now? — June 7, 2006 @ 2:52 pm
AND WHO CONTROLS YOU BRITISH TOBEY GARY?….UH?….THEY ARE NOT DOING A GOOD JOB AT IT,…MAYBE I SHOULD GET THERE SOONER!!! AND DO IT MY SELF!!!!!!!
Comment by and now? — June 7, 2006 @ 3:19 pm
Didn’t you have someplace to go…like the lobotomy chamber?
June 7th, 2006 at 3:24 pmCan we all please not respond to the nut cases who are posting here and monopolizing everything?
June 7th, 2006 at 3:28 pmAll those caps, punctuation, and nonsensical prose is just too stupid.
Who is the other Marie posting in #97? It’s not me.
June 7th, 2006 at 4:37 pmby and now?,
Dude, you should research before you spout.
LL Cool J = Ladies Love Cool JAMES
The J does NOT stand for Jesus.
June 7th, 2006 at 4:48 pmobligatory ‘666′ anecdote
Might be what got it started……or what it is tryibng to be?
June 7th, 2006 at 5:25 pmDo you even have a point to make or do you just go to random forums and post random sh!t?
Nobody has any idea what the hell point you are trying to make. You just ramble. Can you try and precisely state a point of view? RInght wing, left wing, who cares, just say something that means something.
June 7th, 2006 at 5:29 pm#88 – Stop putting yourself down or I’ll feed you to Zookeeper – she knows how to handle men.
Comment by British Gary
*blush*
June 7th, 2006 at 5:40 pm#100 Maria
June 7th, 2006 at 5:58 pmBuona sera! Glad to have you visiting America.
I was born and raised here, but my grandparents on both sides immigrated from Sicily.
One day I would love to spend time in Italy and Sicily.
We are not all crazy here in America, although if you read some of the trolls here, you might think so. More and more Americans are realizing what some of us knew in the summer of 2000 – that George Bush is unqualified to be president. He is deceptive. He is a rich and spoiled person who has remained in childhood, never had to earn his own money, pay the bills. or accept responsibility. He’s clueless.
Nice post!
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Oh my God! A Democrat who actually respects innocent life and takes a stand against the taking of such innocent life??? Has Hell frozen over? Maybe the Democratic Party isn’t TOTALLY corrupt. Thank you, Gov. Blanco for saving the party from extremism.
June 7th, 2006 at 10:52 pmThe Democratic Party corrupt? I’d get my eyes and hearing checked if I were you…
June 7th, 2006 at 10:55 pmYeah, taking a $100,000 bribe and storing it in a freezer isn’t at all corrupt…Heh!
June 7th, 2006 at 11:00 pmYou seem to be missing an awareness of millions taken by a host of Republicans from Jack Abrahamoff. And did you forget dear Tom Delay so soon? Notto mention the criminal miscreants occupying the White House and waging pre-emptive wars over conjecture and speculation, while breaking more laws than I could possibly list here.
Might wanna make those appointments first thing in the morning…
June 7th, 2006 at 11:08 pmNice try. But no where did I say that individual Republican members of Congress were not corrupt. Clearly Duke Cunningham was corrupt. I was merely pointing out that this bizarre contention that Democrats are above reproach, when the party has members such as Jim Trafficant and William Jefferson is…well…silly and childish.
June 7th, 2006 at 11:14 pmLOL Exley likes Gov. Blanco a dumb politician who allowed people to drown in New Orleans and now she wants the poor of Louisiana to be forced to birth babies conceived by incest or rape?!
Exley must like Sen. Vitter who hates Gays and Lesbians, but depises Rep. William Jefferson?
June 7th, 2006 at 11:17 pmdespises > typo
June 7th, 2006 at 11:19 pmOh..So, Jay Randal agrees that it was Gov. Blanco who was responsible for New Orleans’ poor preparation for and response to Hurricane Katrina and not President Bush. Well, that’s progress. We people who know the facts have been saying that for months. Good for you, Jay! You’re learning!
June 7th, 2006 at 11:25 pmPost 128 lol Exley > just because Blanco messed up too does not obsolve Bush of his stupidity as well regarding Hurricane Katrina > FEMA blew it the worst!
All the politicians who represent Louisiana goofed up: Mayor Nagin left several hundred school buses in New Orleans which were destroyed by the floods … he could have used them to remove a few thousand poor before the storm hit; Sen. Landrieu was clueless praising FEMA while people drowned; Sen. Vitter never did a damn thing to help anyone in New Orleans; Gov. Blanco was more concerned about her own image … she also hired Blackwater mercenary assassins to murder some poor blacks in the “Big Easy”; Rep. William Jefferson cared only about his own house and property during and after the hurricane! All of them should resign their positions like Michael Brown of FEMA did! President Bush should resign as well!
June 7th, 2006 at 11:50 pmI was merely pointing out that this bizarre contention that Democrats are above reproach, when the party has members such as Jim Trafficant and William Jefferson is…well…silly and childish.
Comment by Exley — June 7, 2006 @ 11:14 pm
Nice try, but no where did we say that Democrats are above reproach.
In fact, I’m not a Democrat along with many other liberals who regularly post here. And, if you actually read any of the comments, you’d notice that we are for the removal of all corrupt politicians – Democrat or Republican.
Get your facts straight. Otherwise you’re just blathering away…
June 8th, 2006 at 9:43 amUmmmmm…”Unbelievable,” do you even know what you wrote?:
“The Democratic Party corrupt? I’d get my eyes and hearing checked if I were you…
Comment by unbelievable”
That certainly reads like you are claiming that only Republicans are corrupt and that no Democrats are corrupt…If you are withdrawing that statement, I will accept your retraction.
June 8th, 2006 at 4:30 pmOh, you mean the Zarqawi thread where I corrected your mistaken claims that the U.S. supported Al Qaeda against the Soviets and that the 9/11 Commission found absolutely no linkage between Saddam Hussein’s Iraq and Al Qaeda??? That thread???
June 8th, 2006 at 4:47 pm“Democrats have corrupt individuals that we systemically remove from our support.
Republicans have corruption at its core that they systemically promote and protect.”
That is not a response. That is a slogan. You provide no basis for that rather cryptic set of statements. It is just rhetoric.
Now, try again, junior. I’ll wait.
June 8th, 2006 at 4:49 pmThat certainly reads like you are claiming that only Republicans are corrupt and that no Democrats are corrupt…
Onlyto an absolutist who only sees the world in black or white with no abilty to apply a statement into context and tone…
If you are withdrawing that statement, I will accept your retraction.
Comment by Exley — June 8, 2006 @ 4:30 pm
You will accept? You’re not my dictator or father or whatever righteous figure that makes such sanctimonious claims would bellow.
June 8th, 2006 at 5:55 pmBomb Iran, raise the Dow, keep your eye on Chinese finance officials with calculators and grab your butts!
June 8th, 2006 at 9:39 pmHeh! I love how the left continues to move the goal posts on the question of Saddam’s connection to Al Qaeda. At first they claimed, “There is no way Al Qaeda and Sadaam would EVER have anything to do with eachother because Saddam was ’secular’ and Al Qaeda is a fundamentalist Islamic terrorist group.” THEN when the left found out that that idiotic view had been disproved, they desperately tried to shift gears and say, “Well…Errr…Sure, they did meet and hold meetings and Iraq offered OBL asylum but nothing ever came of it.” And THEN when THAT turned out to be wrong and it was discovered that Iraq and Al Qaeda had indeed collaborated in an operation against Saudi Arabia, they AGAIN desperately tried to switch positions, saying, “Errrr….well….ummmm…Sure, maybe they DID collaborate, but..er…not against the U.S.! Yeah, that’s it!”
Look, why don’t you folks just admit you got wrong? We won’t judge you. So, you didn’t know your facts…Big deal. Next time just try and do better. Okay? Good for you!
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