Matalin Defends Coulter’s Attack on 9/11 Widows
Matalin Defends Coulter’s Attack on 9/11 Widows
Yesterday on Imus, Mary Matlin — a former counselor to Vice President Cheney and an influential strategist for the White House — defended Ann Coulter’s vicious attack on the 9/11 widows. (In a new book, Coulter says the widows are “enjoying their husband’s deaths.”)
Matalin passed on multiple opportunities from Imus to condemn or distance herself from Coulter’s comments. (Instead, Matalin said she agreed with Coulter’s “larger point.”) She also argued the outrage against Coulter was misplaced, saying “She calls somebody a harpy and you’d think that the world was on fire.” Watch it:
Transcript:
IMUS: What did you make of the Ann Counter deal?
MATLIN: I take her larger point that in the absence of being able to make persuasive arguments you throw out messengers that — can’t be — it’s politically incorrection to argue with, you know the verbiage is a little, a little stressful.
IMUS: So you thought her comments about these women…
MATLIN: I take her larger point, which is —
IMUS: Why can’t you comment on her calling these women harpies.
MATLIN: Because that’s not her point. That’s completely not her point.
IMUS: Well no, but saying that they were happy their husbands got killed and were going to divorce them. And yeah, that they’re getting long in the tooth. Maybe they ought to think about appearing in Playboy, which is an option.
MATLIN: What do you think about her point? Her point that you can’t — you know Cindy Sheehan — if you throw yourself in the political arena, then you should be able to address political issues, and people should be able to speak back to you.
IMUS: I agree with her point.
MATLIN: Well, then that’s what I agree with.
IMUS: But i think it’s repugnant and repulsive and gutless to, and cheap and cheesey to call these women all these names. I mean, whether it’s right or not, it’s just something there’s just. You don’t go there.
MATLIN: That’s her stock and trade.
IMUS: But i’m surprised that you won’t condemn her for these repugnant remarks.
MATLIN: I don’t know her. I haven’t read the book.
IMUS: You don’t have to know her. You know what Hitler did. Did you you him? You condemn what he did.
MATLIN: Are you comparing her to Hitler?
IMUS: No, I’m not. Of course not.
MATLIN: This is the point. This is complete the point she’s making. These lefty crazy people go around calling us [unintelligible] and Hitlers and Nazis and everything and nobody say anything. She calls somebody a harpy and you’d think that the whole world was on fire.
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June 10th, 2006 at 11:18 amOne harpy supporting another harpy. Did anyone really expect her to condemn Coulter?
June 10th, 2006 at 11:23 amMary Matalin, along with many of the blonde bimbos who shill for the BushCo is outrageous in her own right. Something about Republicanism calls for their women to be mean-spirited snipes, indeed, harpies, themselves.
June 10th, 2006 at 11:26 amCan't we just ignore Ann Coulter?
June 10th, 2006 at 11:27 amGood. Let's tie the right to Coulter's hate speech and insanity with tighter and tighter shoelaces. Most Americans recognize that most of what Mann Coulter spews is twisted invective from a parallel universe. It seems the right-wing pundits can't see the differnce between that and honest commentary, perhaps because they inhabit the same bizarre realm.
June 10th, 2006 at 11:28 am"She calls somebody a harpy and you'd think that the world was on fire."
This from a fellow harpy. Harpies gotta stick together, ya know.
June 10th, 2006 at 11:28 amMaybe Matalin didn't notice, since she's busy fulfilling her harpy duties, but the world IS on fire.
Maher slaps his johnson on AC's forehead and wipes his outboard on the drapes. James does the same with the nasal whiner. No wonder why these women hate everbody.
June 10th, 2006 at 11:31 amPlease, stop following down every rabbit hole thrown our way by the right. They intend to keep us talking about this instead of poll numbers, the inconsistencies of Al Zarqawi's murder, NSA wiretapping....
There are so many more things going on. Let them lie to each other and build glass houses. We don't matter to them, nothing we say matters to them, so why are you giving so much time to their shit?
Stop it I beg of you. Ignore the ignorant. It's the best thing you can do.
Why give print space to venting since we can do that in our heads ourselves?
June 10th, 2006 at 11:31 amScary Mary is one of those TWO Bag Women.One for HER and One for YOU just in Case HERS Falls OFF.
June 10th, 2006 at 11:36 amMz Coulters remarks are insensative and inflamatory, I think the Jersey Girls are owed an apology, I certainly hope Mz Coulter is circumspect enough to give one? The remarks are not welcome framed in the context of an event that sent America to war.
June 10th, 2006 at 11:37 amAnn Coulter is as important as flag burning. Who gives a rip. Let's talk about something important. Like winning back congress.
June 10th, 2006 at 11:41 amI can't believe they are letting these republican apologists get away with saying "I agree with her point, but not necessarily her language". The supposed point being that democrats put forth "victims" to make points and that you somehow can't talk back to "victims". Ok. And so tell me then, how do republicans deal with democratic "experts"? Swift-boating, and ad hominen character assassination. Its what they have always done. John Kerry? Swiftboat him. Jack Murtha? Call him a coward on the floor of the house. Average Joe America protests against the war? Say he loves terrorists. They even do it to other republicans. John McCain? He's crazy, and has out of wedlock children with black women. Whats so ridiculous is entertaining this woman's "point" at all. Oh, and last night Olbermann pointed out how on September 13, 2001, Coulter printed a long article which used Ted Olson's wife death on 9-11 as justification for indiscriminate bombing in the middle east. Talk about using the dead before they have cooled. What hypocrisy! Why dont any of these idiots stand up to this woman?
June 10th, 2006 at 11:46 amI haven't trusted Carville since he married Matalin. Husbands and wives can have different careers, but this is ridiculous. There has to be a line somewhere.
June 10th, 2006 at 11:46 am#8 - I agree with you on a basic level, Ken, but consider this: Gore took the high road, and look where it got him; Kerry took the high road, and look where it took us. We too often take the high road, because most of crap the right is flinging is just that -- crap.
But you forget the diehard sheep among us, the ones who stop thinking at the words "abortion," "gay marriage," "stem cell research," etc., the (now) 30%. They feed on the lies and filth spewed by the right.
Our downfall is we either don't respond at all, making the wingnuts think whatever they're being fed must be true, or we respond to a ridiculous level -- to the exclusion of everything else. And while we're doing that, the right sticks it to us big time. We have to find our balance -- NOW.
June 10th, 2006 at 11:47 amThe world's not on fire. Just her pants.
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June 10th, 2006 at 11:49 amDoes anyone remember when Pat Buchanan represented the ultra conservative right wing of the Republican Party?
I listen to him now on the Mclaughlin Group and he sounds like a moderate.
It is sad how far right wing talking head nutjob extreamists like Coulter And Limbaugh have been able to move the the line of acceptability.
They are destroying our country:(
June 10th, 2006 at 11:51 amright on, zookeeper - excellent point...
sometimes i just want to ignore these things also, but posts like yours - and hindsight - remind me why it's so important to fight back...
and about the harpy - "it takes one to know one" - not?
June 10th, 2006 at 11:57 amoh! - i got that wrong (takes one to...) !!!
June 10th, 2006 at 12:01 pmwhile that's true, i thought... oh... never mind...
I DO NOT THINK ANY OF THE 9/11 WIDOWS ARE HARPIES...
but matalin and coulter ARE...
The line in the sand is made manifest by their own words. This has quickly become more than a war of ideology. The distinction between good and evil has been illuminated for all to see.
They want us to believe that they represent the majority.
June 10th, 2006 at 12:09 pmThe truth is, they are the minority. They have always been the minority. Only through the most insidious manipulation have they conned us into believing otherwise.
It's not necessarily the verbal diareaha that these right wing bimbos engage in that is bothersome to me. It can be expected that anytime a mic is put in front of them something outrageous and way beyond the pale will spew out, it's what they do.
What bothers me the most is that a major network and the front men lackies that work for it are more than willing to give them a national platform to spin the garbage that they put out. As far as I am concerned people should be speaking out against the Matt Lauers, Don Imus's, Chris Matthews etc.
It has been known for quite sometime that if it's Sunday it is no longer Meet The Press, more like if it is Sunday it is now Meet The Right Wing. Well the Today has made that shift as well. If you look at just the past few months and who has been on the Today show ala the ex Fluff and Nutter team of Matt and Katie you will see a whole host of these right wingnuts, O'Reilly, Coulter, Matlin and on and on etc. Yes the left has been somewhat represented mostly for show, certainly no way near as much as the right been given to present their side of things. When anyone from the left is on the Today show they are usually met with contmept.
This is not likely to change anytime soon.
June 10th, 2006 at 12:11 pmIt's another sign of how the nasty diviciveness travels all the way to "professionals", pundits, politicians, etc. nowadays. I watched a 21min excerpt of a CNN Crossfire show, from 1986. Both sides were much more cordial than nowadays. And it was Robert Novak from the right, and a guy, last name Braden from the left. The 2 guests, Frank Zappa and some Neocon, really went at it though.
June 10th, 2006 at 12:11 pmShe's a skank, and she's why I wouldn't trust Carville to have anything to do with another Democratic campaign.
I wish those two would just enter into some kind of suicide pact and leave the rest of us alone.
June 10th, 2006 at 12:12 pmMaybe all the nasty drama these days is for ratings and $$$, at the expense of the general populace seeing it as fact, and not the entertainment it really is.
June 10th, 2006 at 12:17 pmFunny how they accuse the left of declaring a war on the holy and wholesome Christmas and Easter,(pure fantasy holidays for children and sheep), and come out against REAL poor vulnerable widows who's husbands lives were in part taken by Bushco's incompetency. (Incompetency;giving the benefit of the doubt)
June 10th, 2006 at 12:18 pmthe world WAS on fire on 9/11, you stupid beyotch... it's wrong to speak in such a way about the widows, regardless of their political activities... Coulter and Matalin don't seem to get that as they say,"Yeah, but..." there are no buts here... it's common decency...
June 10th, 2006 at 12:19 pmMatalin must have a book coming out.
I bet it's not about make-overs.
June 10th, 2006 at 12:22 pmoh! - i got that wrong (takes one to…) !!!
while that’s true, i thought… oh… never mind…
I DO NOT THINK ANY OF THE 9/11 WIDOWS ARE HARPIES…
but matalin and coulter ARE…
Comment by katy
Damn, katy, I'm glad you cleared that up, because I thought you were calling me a harpy. ;)
June 10th, 2006 at 12:24 pmAND I DDO NOT THINK THAT ZOOKEEPER IS A HARPY EITHER!!!
June 10th, 2006 at 12:25 pmThe wing nuts are just mad that people with credentials are arguing against them. I'm sure they wish we lefties were all a bunch of granola eating hippies who never stepped foot out of the commune. Then they could argue with us on the issues.
But asking them to argue issues with people with standing in the argument? That is asking too much of them.
June 10th, 2006 at 12:27 pm#29 - Too funny, katy. Is that your Santo impression? Assuming that's you, of course. ;)
June 10th, 2006 at 12:29 pmoh man... gawd no, no santo... sorry...
June 10th, 2006 at 12:30 pmNo zoo, I'm just a guy who's been singing protest songs since November 2004.
June 10th, 2006 at 12:30 pmI bet it’s not about make-overs.
Comment by AnAmerican
*shudder*
June 10th, 2006 at 12:33 pmI'd like to get at that hag with a scrub brush and some hot water, or give her a gift card for a professional makeup artist.
I don't remember Cultwhore complaining about Bush standing behind 911 family members and parents of fallen soldiers at many of his campaign rallies.
I guess only victim family members that support the war are allowed to have any opinions.
June 10th, 2006 at 12:34 pm#33 - I'm not sure what you're responding to, cynical ex-hippie, but I'm glad you're singing protest songs!
June 10th, 2006 at 12:37 pmI guess only victim family members that support the war are allowed to have any opinions.
Comment by G.W.SuperChrist
Now you're getting it!
June 10th, 2006 at 12:39 pmThat's right superchrist, in their world view every 9/11 victim and soldier is with them, and their opponents are all cowards who don't know anything. The fact that the people they thought were with them are now against them is throwing them into a tailspin.
They don't want to argue against people who actually have first hand knowledge of the issues.
June 10th, 2006 at 12:39 pmWhere is the public outrage? I seem to remember when the Dixie Chicks made a comment about G. W. Bush they were ban from radio, their CDs burned and stomped on. I guess it was because they are Godless unlike holier than thou Ann Coulter
June 10th, 2006 at 12:39 pmTom, what bothers me isn't the guy who says it.
June 10th, 2006 at 12:39 pmIt isn't the guy who broadcasts it.
It isn't even the guy who defends it.
It is the guy who really believes it.
Watching TV news is like reading National Enquirer.
June 10th, 2006 at 12:42 pmSometimes NE gets a scoop, but most of the time it's just soapopera sensationalistic "entertainment" that gives more time to liars than to truth tellers. Witness CNN censoring the right-on remarks the father of Berg, who Zarqawi purportedly beheaded.
Boycott MSM.
#38 The problem is the right wing has much more hate and anger in reserve. We lefties value peace and love, which puts us at a disadvantage in any shouting match.
Of course, this same value is what causes most innovation to happen in liberal parts of the country, and that's what keeps our economy going despite Dubya's dangerous fiscal policies.
June 10th, 2006 at 12:43 pmYou're the "harpy" Ms. Matalin. Yeah, of course the GOP will defend their #1 fan after she blows up. The Dems sttod up for the lunatic Ward Churchill after he trashed 9/11 victims too. Oh, wait - They didn't . What a bunch of slimy hypocrites.
http://www.lcoliberal.blogspot.com
June 10th, 2006 at 12:44 pmAN OUTRIGHT THREAT AGAINST ANN COULTER.
Now on LCL
[...] The shit rolls downhill. [...]
June 10th, 2006 at 12:50 pmLC Liberal, Ward Chruchill's speech is just as slimy and disgusting as Coulter's. The difference is that Dems will condemn Churchill and Coulter's words, while supporting their right to speak them. Reps would try to eliminate the right to speak the words at all. Just because we have a right to free speech, doesn't mean there will be no objection or consequences for exercising that right.
June 10th, 2006 at 12:56 pmMatalin is a nasty bitch just like Coulter! I will never understand WHY James Carville married her? He has been castrated as a political consultant for the Democrats > last book he wrote was so dull and stupid, that Mary probably dictated the crap to him!
June 10th, 2006 at 1:00 pmJay, I just figured the sex must be fantastic, but I could never work out for which one. Ick.
June 10th, 2006 at 1:04 pm42 - I stand behind Ward Churchill!
He did not trash 911 victims - he simply made the point that if a country allows their military and their industry to become inseparably intertwined that the industry counts as a tactical target for attack... the innocent victims are as our government likes to say “collateral damageâ€... the same as when we bombs weapons manufacturing plants... the workers inside are not part of the military but they are supporting the military machine… their deaths are collateral damage.
June 10th, 2006 at 1:04 pmThis is the kind of hateful attitude we need to expose among the right. Whether it's Coulter's books, the millions of conservatives who enjoy them (hate, when cathartic, is actually quite enjoyable), or death threats against musicians who speak liberal opinions.
There's a reason why, when ambitious politicians need to pillory someone for political gain, they choose liberals. We're not as violent and more likely to respond with reason and less likely to respond with violence or hate. That makes us safe targets for people like DeLay. You don't see any liberal Congressmen advising DeLay to wear a bullet proof vest if he ever visits their home district.
If red state conservatives did a little more Zen meditation and a little less listening to hate radio in rush hour traffic we'd all be better off.
June 10th, 2006 at 1:04 pmMatalin and Carville are living proof that the other one is certifiable. Tracy and Hepburn from "Adam's Rib" they ain't.
June 10th, 2006 at 1:05 pmAnd while we’re doing that, the right sticks it to us big time. We have to find our balance — NOW.
Comment by Zookeeper — June 10, 2006 @ 11:47 am
Well said Pippi!
June 10th, 2006 at 1:07 pmIn her next interview, someone ask Coulter if she thinks John Walsh or Patti Wetterling are glad their children were abducted or whether Jim Brady and his wife are glad he got shot in the head or whether she thinks Christopher Reed and his wife were happy that he became a paraplegic. She hates these particular women because they dare question Emporer Bush. The idea that they are taking advantage of their husbands' deaths is only the entre to her pathological hatred of any public figure to the left of Hermann Goering. And, as she knows all too well, spreading hatred and devisiveness in Bush's America opens the the elevator door to fame and fortune.
June 10th, 2006 at 1:07 pm#47 It's your right to support Churchill, but Eichman knew the direct line to slavery execution of the people on his list. Nobody in the twin towers had such a list. If their business caused suffering and death, it was not on their balance sheets. At worst we can still give them the benefit of the doubt that if they were asked to actually sign a mass execution order they would start browsing monster.com for a less evil career.
That said, if Churchill's point was that the 9/11 hijackers saw us this way, then he may be right about that. It's still not a nice thing to say, and the way I heard him explain it on Bill Maher, one could say that about anyone who as a white collar job in industrialized society. That nullifies any point and make it simply an insult. Not that I care what every professor in every little college town has ever written about anything.
It was the right wing who gave Churchill celebrity status.
June 10th, 2006 at 1:11 pmDubya Dunce Decider Plays Games!
Saturday 10th of June 2006
by Jay Randal
Everything the Bush Regime does are subterfuge and lies, but why do members of the Congress play along?
Every time Dubya gets in a jam somebody helps him out, like Sen. Arlen Specter covering up his NSA lies, or Sen. Joe Lieberman defending the Iraq quagmire!
Even the Pentagon comes to the rescue of Bush Junior whenever approval of his warfare drops below 30%, like staging demise of a mythical terrorist Zarqawi!
The vile games being played in Washington, DC, are seriously harming the entire nation, by bankrupting the treasury while slashing every social program too!
Nobody in our nation's capital can claim ignorance to everything dirty that is transpiring, because most of the corruption is boiling to the surface in plain view!
The press tries to sweep the dirt under the rug, but its a huge pile of crap which bulges up and keeps spilling out, so most Americans notice the filth and the slime!
VOTERS ARE ANGRY!
( Jay Randal, political activist and writer in Stone Mountain, Georgia.)
June 10th, 2006 at 1:16 pmAs usual, ThinkProgress forgets half the facts in their effort to whip up the moonbats into a froth-mouthed fury. Ann Coulter DID not condemn the multitudes of 9/11 widows. She criticized the four “Jersey Girls†for their political stances in response to 9/11.
That is exactly the point we are driving at. I'm glad the point is finally getting through your thick conservative skull. The point is exactly that Ann Coulter did not condemn the multitudes of victims, only those few who she sees as politically damaging to her party.
Do you understand now?
June 10th, 2006 at 1:16 pmSay it out loud. The PNAC cabal must have celebrated the needed "new pearl harbor" that they so much needed.
June 10th, 2006 at 1:17 pm.
Then, do not engage in a shouting match.
Someone once gave this advice:
It's good advice, no matter what your personal belief system. In the long run, it is the only way to win.
June 10th, 2006 at 1:18 pmYou know, the Dixie Chicks have suffered for years because of a boycott of their records. Now they have a hit. Guess what, they have problems with their concert tour. This should teach us something that would be usefull with Coulter.
Organize a mass boycott of her book. Their should be action taken against Borders, Amazon and anyother outlet with her book. The message should be clear: Carry this book and you support her description of the widows. We don't object to debate. We do object to this kind of scurrilous conduct.
June 10th, 2006 at 1:20 pmYou know, the Dixie Chicks have suffered for years because of a boycott of their records. Now they have a hit. Guess what, they have problems with their concert tour. This should teach us something that would be usefull with Coulter.
Organize a mass boycott of her book. Their should be action taken against Borders, Amazon and anyother outlet with her book. The message should be clear: Carry this book and you support her description of the widows. We don't object to debate. We do object to this kind of scurrilous conduct.
June 10th, 2006 at 1:20 pm#53 - Your point is well taken.
I agree with Churchills larger point but maybe not his phrasing... does that make me like Mary Matlin:(
June 10th, 2006 at 1:21 pmZookeeper probably Carville is controlled by Matalin in the bedroom > he is NOT a very good looking guy, so Mary probably tells him he is lucky to have her as a wife! Since he married her his advice for Democrats have led to defeats for everyone he helps as a paid advisor! Mary may have married him to silence him because he was once a great campaign stratigist!
June 10th, 2006 at 1:23 pmi wouldn't say that demanding an invesitgation - which would not have happened had they NOT - into 9/11 is considered a "political stance"... remember that BushCO was against that before they were for it - relenting to the demands of the "jersey girls... and i say "thank you, ladies"...
June 10th, 2006 at 1:26 pm#59 - The Dixie Chicks are beginning to realize they have a different audience. I read the USA Today article about thier ticket sales.
http://www.usatoday.com/life/music/news/2006-06-08-dixie-chicks-tour_x.htm
It looks like they have lost their red-neck audience and gained overwhelming support in Canada, Australia and England. I bought their CD and would go to a concert should they come to the San Francisco area.
June 10th, 2006 at 1:27 pmOrganize a mass boycott of her book. Their should be action taken against Borders, Amazon and anyother outlet with her book. The message should be clear: Carry this book and you support her description of the widows. We don’t object to debate. We do object to this kind of scurrilous conduct.
Comment by jmoor — June 10, 2006 @ 1:20 pm
Boycott?
Thats reich wing crap jmoor. We don't try to silence people. Thats their schtick.
June 10th, 2006 at 1:33 pmOnly Republicans are allowed to use 9/11 as a poltical tool. Why didn't Coulter criticize the three 9/11 widows who spoke at the Republican National Convention? Because they agree with her. Coulter wants the widows who are critical of Bush to 'shut-up', but it is fine for three widows to speek at the RNC....they don't get called "broads" and "harpies" and "witches".
(Snip)
"New York, NY, Aug. 30 (UPI) -- There was not a dry eye to be found in New York's cavernous Madison Square Garden after surviving relatives of three Americans killed on Sept. 11, 2001, addressed the delegates as part of the conventions "A Nation of Courage" Monday night program. "
http://washingtontimes.com/upi-breaking/20040830-113530-6195r.htm
Ann Coulter is a hatemonger and who "hates" the first amendment. She hates the Constitution, therefor she must hate America.
-GSD
June 10th, 2006 at 1:34 pmDear Hippie - Please show me where Judd in his essay said the Jersey Girls were criticized for their political stances....(He forgot to mention the FOUR Jersey Girls???? I'm SHOCKED!!!!) Perhaps you'll be able to get it through your thin skin and skull that Judd was yanking your chains - but for a worthy prog "cause".
See ya'
June 10th, 2006 at 1:34 pmIn her next interview, someone ask Coulter if she thinks John Walsh or Patti Wetterling
OFF topic. but did anyone notice that last weeks AMW had featured illegal immigrant felons and such. I thought "oh that's nice, now John Walsh is pandering two days before the bigotry vote"
Any thoughts?
June 10th, 2006 at 1:36 pmMary may have married him to silence him because he was once a great campaign stratigist!
Comment by Jay Randal
That would make her the ultimate whore. I just don't want to think about it anymore, because it makes me sick. :P
June 10th, 2006 at 1:38 pmHer point that you can’t — you know Cindy Sheehan — if you throw yourself in the political arena, then you should be able to address political issues, and people should be able to speak back to you
Scatin Matlin
So far,the ONLY people claiming you can't talk back to them, is Coulter and her supporters.
They are INVENTING an argument to defend Coulter calling the 911 widows a bunch of foul names.
NO ONE, and I MEAN NO ONE, said you can't talk back to these women, or their argument.
Hell they INVITE your debate.
But you can't debate. Neither can Coulter.
Is it our fault that all Ann Coulter's tiny brain could come up with is a bunch of 3rd grade scuzzy insults, instead of debating their actual issues?
June 10th, 2006 at 1:40 pmZookeeper I know how you feel because I once knew Carville before he married Matalin and lost his midas touch in politics! It took a couple of years after he married her to become completely soft, but now he is her tool! She tells her everything the Democrats are doing, then she informs the GOP who she whores for what James says! Call her the ultimate Mata Hari!
June 10th, 2006 at 1:46 pmAs usual, Mighty Haggis of the Clan Teabagger drops its smelly load and claims to scram.
She criticized the four “Jersey Girls†for their political stances in response to 9/11.
Comment by mighty aphrodite
You defend Coulter saying she was criticizing only the "Jersey Girls," and criticize Judd for not mentioning the Jersey Girls, and yet nowhere in her interview with Matt Lauer did Coulter mention the Jersey Girls -- she said 9/11 widows, with no specificity. You were issued your talking point of the day, and are apparently here to fulfill your poo flinging obligations. Dismissed.
June 10th, 2006 at 1:49 pmThese female Republican talkers,radio and TV,are some of the meanest,most hateful women on the face of the Earth.The GOP men are worse,but not much!There is not an ounce of human kindness or understanding among them.
June 10th, 2006 at 1:56 pmYou were issued your talking point of the day, and are apparently here to fulfill your poo flinging obligations. Dismissed.
Comment by Zookeeper — June 10, 2006 @ 1:49 pm
You are on a roll today!
How was graduation last night?
June 10th, 2006 at 1:56 pmShe's got to stand up for her fellow Hitler worshipper. Everybody knows they all stick together.
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June 10th, 2006 at 1:59 pmExclusive interview of U.S. Rep. Jim Davis:
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Have fun all I will back on the thread tonight!
June 10th, 2006 at 1:59 pm#14, Zookeeper...
I think you fail to see that if we just let the MSM speak in a vacuum, as they are now, we do not change those who cannot change by watching the MSM.
However, if they have a one-sided conversation, as they allow us to do with subjects like 9/11, then we can point out the uselessness of their "concerns".
For everyone who says they "can’t believe they are letting these republican apologists get away with saying “I agree with her point, but not necessarily her languageâ€" they fail to see how they feed into that.
The republicans have control of the airwaves. That is enough. We do not need to let them play the evil role we give to them, because when we talk about them we are only feeding what they say about us, that all we are concerned about is vilifying them.
It also, most importantly, gets us OFF the important and real issues.
June 10th, 2006 at 1:59 pm#66 m-a:
Dear Hippie - Please show me where Judd in his essay said the Jersey Girls were criticized for their political stances….(He forgot
How stupid do you think we are that we don't know exactly why Mz Coulter is criticizing the Jersey women and everyone else who disagrees with her political party?
Oh right, conservatives think liberals are all stupid shallow elitist granola eating hippies who don't know squat outside the organic collectivist work commune.
In fact, she also criticized Murtha and Kerry for their military service. Did Judd forget to mention that also? Did he forget to fill you in on the long political backstory to this simiple blog post? You probably take that as more proof that we don't see the big picture here. You probably take that as proof of your inherent conservative superiority.
Conservatives. What can you do?
June 10th, 2006 at 2:02 pmNo, we call you Nutzis! Nutzis! Nutzis!
June 10th, 2006 at 2:03 pmAnd mighty aphroditzy always comes along to keep the shit stirred.
Can anyone else imagine a world where they are allowed to keep their shit to themselves and their viewers? They really don't matter.
We are so much better off staying out of useless debates like this until the time comes to point out that we were above that non-issue debate.
June 10th, 2006 at 2:06 pm#76 I think Conservatives' hatred for liberals combined with conservatives' capacity for violence and advocacy of violence as a solution to most problems (Coulter articulates this advocacy quite well) is a far more important issue than you seem to realize.
June 10th, 2006 at 2:08 pmCan’t we just ignore Ann Coulter?
Comment by LeisureGuy — June 10, 2006 @ 11:27 am
Sure. Do nothing. Thats what Democrats have been doing for 8 years.
Guess theres no reason for you to change now.
June 10th, 2006 at 2:10 pm#77 - Believe me, Ken, I do see your point. You're just more civilized than I am.
June 10th, 2006 at 2:11 pmIf we don't address conservatives' hatred for liberals, it will only grow.
June 10th, 2006 at 2:12 pmCourse if you actually want to win an election or two, you might want to learn to stand up to their silly attacks.
Cause that turn the other cheek attitude will beat you every time.
June 10th, 2006 at 2:13 pm#80. No, I realize it. However I also know their MO. They love to get us stirred up and talking about this instead of Zarqawi. They know what gets our ire stirred up (see everything mighty aphroditzy says and you will see exactly how they work.) It isn't about right and wrong in these arguments.
Of course Coulter was wrong, and the only people swayed by her are the FOX devotees. But the more we talk about it, the more attention she gets, the more the right can point to our being upset by it, and the more books she will sell and the more people they can align against us using their bully pulpit of the MSM.
It is important, of course it is, but it pales in comparison to many other things going on. We will not be able to take the MSM away from them by being right. At least not in the short term.
It is more important, far more important, to continue to let the MSM and conservatives continue to kill themselves. We do not need to take such an active part.
Judge not, lest ye be judged...and all that.
We must be above the fray. Not mired in their excrement.
June 10th, 2006 at 2:18 pmKen, if you don't want to discuss Coulters attack on the widows, then I suggest you find a thread that is not ABOUT Coulters attack on the widows.
Just a thought.
June 10th, 2006 at 2:20 pm#81, what exactly do you think you are "doing" now by preaching to the choir about an OBVIOUS problem the right has.
The point is it is obvious and we chase this like we chased gay marriage, immigration, gay marriage again, and every stupid think Coulter says.
It is so obvious that we lower ourselves by participating. Get over it. Sometimes you just have to ignore that which demands attention, just to stay above the argument.
The whole thing is that this interrupts the momentum of talking about impeachment. That is the real issue here, but as long as we talk about Coulter in a vacuum, supplied by the Matalins of this world who's job it is to side-track us and keep us off message, then they are going to continue to win.
Impeachment, elections, and the lameness and lack of a democratic alternative are far more important.
June 10th, 2006 at 2:22 pmHow was graduation last night?
Comment by unbelievable
It was fantastic! I'm glad they held it in the football stadium, because even though Zoo Jr's class only had 186 graduates, there were about 10,000 people there -- 1/2 of the stadium was full. We had excellent seats, and I only teared up once, when the speaker told the kids he wasn't going to wish them a "nice life," because if your whole life is nice you won't have accomplished a damn thing. I was teary because it's so true, and Zoo Jr knows it, and that made me proud. Jr got his diploma, shook hands with the principal and school superintendent, like the gentleman he tries so hard to be, and then raised both arms over his head, made a loud whooping noise, and leaped off the stage. Dignity R Us, as I always say! When they filed out, Jr hooked arms with his favorite Belgian exchange student, and they skipped all the way out.
June 10th, 2006 at 2:23 pmI keep trying to tell you guys, if you didn't come to suit up, what the hell are you doing on the field?
June 10th, 2006 at 2:23 pmNo Zookeeper, you are terrific, and I always enjoy reading your posts. If I am in any way civilized it is because I learn from reading from people like you.
But still, let's talk about impeachment...
June 10th, 2006 at 2:24 pmIt is so obvious that we lower ourselves by participating. Get over it. Sometimes you just have to ignore that which demands attention, just to stay above the argument.
Comment by Ken Daves — June 10, 2006 @ 2:22 pm
Great. So IGNORE it. You can't ignore it in here, becuase unless I have a reading impairment, this thread is ALL ABOUT Coulters comments.
One more time, Ken.
If you didn't come to play ball, then what the hell are you doing on the field?
June 10th, 2006 at 2:27 pmFlavius, you miss the point. It is here that I want to try to get everyone else off this useless argument that allows republicans to depict us however they want to.
Now we are whining about the mere words of AC. What makes you think we won't hear about our lack of concern for freedom of speech from her side?
They will never address the real issues, so why should we take every piece of bait lobbed in our direction?
Unless you are on their side... Are you?
June 10th, 2006 at 2:28 pmZoo,
Sounds like a nice one!
"If your whole life is nice you won’t have accomplished a damn thing" Now there's an excellent bumpersticker! :)
June 10th, 2006 at 2:30 pmIt is here that I want to try to get everyone else off this useless argument
Comment by Ken Daves — June 10, 2006 @ 2:28 pm
So you're trying to kill the thread?
Unless you are on their side… Are you?
Comment by Ken Daves — June 10, 2006 @ 2:28 pm
I'm not the one trying squash the thread.
June 10th, 2006 at 2:35 pmI'm not trying to dis you Ken. I think you make great comments.
But this, "lets play nice" and "be above the fray" is what buried the Democrats for the last 6 years, and will bury them in 08 if they don't learn to hit back.
We have all the "nice guys" we need. No one listens to them.
If you're gonna do battle with the Coulters crap then you need to bring more to the table then a Beattitudes mentaility and a plea to "play nice".
Once more, if you're not here to suit up, then get keep out of the way.
There are players here, and they're moving the ball up the field.
June 10th, 2006 at 2:38 pmNeither am I, but I am trying to re-direct the conversation so people will be less-easily manipulated.
That is our problem. We do not control the airwaves, so we may be portrayed however they wish, and if you think for a minute that we will achieve getting them to address the very real and correct concerns that we talk about here, then you are mistaken.
Playing into their argument is little different from masturbation. Fun, but ultimately it's just you getting yourself off on hatred of the hateful.
June 10th, 2006 at 2:39 pmBruce,
Once again your right. All of this hateful vengence that these right wing talking heads put out really wouldn't amount to anything except that there are way to many people out there that are all to willing to believe anything that these people put out.
I don't know if is because the gullibles do not know how to think or speak for themselves or they do not have the capacity to realize that there are two sides or more to any issue or simply the old adhage that ingonorance is bliss and the less they know about anything except what they hear is bliss.
I personally know some of these gullibles and there is no way that you can convince them that these right wing nuts are spewing nothing but garbage and that they are being led down a propaganda path.
June 10th, 2006 at 2:44 pm"But this, “lets play nice†and “be above the fray†is what buried the Democrats for the last 6 years, and will bury them in 08 if they don’t learn to hit back."
We must hit back when it's important to do so. Beyond pointing out that anus coulter is an asshole, what else need be said?
This is not about being above the fray. I was most upset when kerry ended his last nationally televised speech before the country with "Integrity, integrity, integrity."
That translated as lame lame lame because he never hit hard where it counted, and only hit back where he could do no real harm to bush. Why do you think he let the swift boat shit happen without fighting back?
The excuse was integrity. The truth is, he was demonstrating his hidden integrity to not interfere with his fellow bonesman's continued incursion into the middle east. He supported the war.
We must be above the fray, we must not waste time talking about non-issues when that takes time away from talking of impeachment and getting our elections closer to fair.
June 10th, 2006 at 2:44 pm"We have all the “nice guys†we need. No one listens to them."
And if you think bitching about anus coulter or moron matalin will get someone to hear us, then you do not understand that we are essentially blocked from ever getting our message across on the MSM.
It falls to this sort of grass-roots organizing through conversation. We can't get very far just name-calling, fun as hell though it may be to hit those who so desperately deserve it.
June 10th, 2006 at 2:46 pmI'm not playing into anyones argument.
I am standing up to a bunch of reich wing maggots who think they can say anything they want, and the little democrats will either cower and say, Oohh, don't stoop to their level, or we will become "enraged" and throw a fit.
In case you didn't notice, I do NEITHER.
Instead, I just give Coulter back exactly what she puts out. Its called fighting fire with fire, and in case you aren't aware of this, its a time honored technique to extinguish a raging inferno.
June 10th, 2006 at 2:46 pmFighting fire with fire sounds like a bushism, and it's efficacy outside of actual fire-fighting has been completely disproven.
June 10th, 2006 at 2:49 pmIts that "ooohhh, lets play nice, lets be bigger than them" crap that GOT US INTO IRAQ, that LOST US 2 elections, and turned our world upside down.
When the democracts finally GROW A PAIR, then maybe we can get our planet back on track.
Assuming of course they do that before its all gone.
June 10th, 2006 at 2:50 pmAnd anus coulter is not a raging inferno, she's a raging b*&ch. There is a difference, and while one deserves to have a backfire set, the other deserves to be ignored.
June 10th, 2006 at 2:51 pmFor the last time Ken.
If you didn't come to suit up, then get the hell off the field.
You're just in the way.
June 10th, 2006 at 2:52 pmIMUS was right to challenge Ann Coulter. He handled the situation well. When victims talk, we need to ask why they became victims. If a war victim speaks out, why did she become a war victim? An ill-conceived war that will only stop with a new administration representing a different political party and philosophy. Regime change, if you will. But it will happen at the ballot box this time, even if it should have happened last time.
June 10th, 2006 at 2:53 pmFlavius, did you get beat up on the playground in elementary school?
"Its that “ooohhh, lets play nice, lets be bigger than them†crap that GOT US INTO IRAQ, that LOST US 2 elections, and turned our world upside down."
Are you capable of being effective? Do you even really know what's going on?
bush and a bunch of faux-democrats got us into Iraq at the behest of Israel.
Two elections were demonstrably stolen from us. We won both of those, in spite of lame-assed attempts on the part of the candidate from the so-called left.
The killing of JFK was the beginning of our world being turned on its head.
None of this can be blamed on lameness or being above the fray.
It's called being responsible. Try it.
June 10th, 2006 at 2:54 pmAnyway, you're trying to "coulter" me into getting off point, so I will go on and let you do your damage here.
But please, Flavius, try not to be so much one of them.
June 10th, 2006 at 2:57 pmIts that “ooohhh, lets play nice, lets be bigger than them†crap that GOT US INTO IRAQ, that LOST US 2 elections, and turned our world upside down.
Comment by FLAVIUS WORFEUS — June 10, 2006 @ 2:50 pm
In this context, as much as I don't want to, I have to agree with Worfeus.
Nice guys finish last? In this political culture - yes. They (neocons) take silence for aquiescence, kindness for weakness, and that the winner of a shouting match is the correct authority. These people do not think for themselves. They turn to the patriarchal King of the Hill (who made his way to the top of the heap by pushing other people out of his way), and take what he says as the gospel.
Though, I will say that I thnk this issue (Ann Coulter) has been countered quite nicely, and until she says something further, I would love to see a thread on something more critical and less opinion.
June 10th, 2006 at 2:59 pmIt isn't about being nice. I'm not nice. It's about not falling for their traps and diminishing who we are by lapping up every opportunity to attack where they have done enough on their own to undermine their credibility.
Who cares what anus or moron said? I bet it was aimed at liberals like us.
Who cares what "they" call us? They have been doing this for years and it ain't about to change because we have a space to call a beyatch a beyatch.
She is a stupid, intercoursing, horrible human being. That will not change because we point out the obvious. All they have to get us to do is respond to shit like this in order to have something to portray us as.
We have to stop caring about what they think and say and treat it with the same irrelevance they treat everything we say. We have this space, let them keep their diminishing TV. So what.
June 10th, 2006 at 3:04 pmBut please, Flavius, try not to be so much one of them.
Comment by Ken Daves — June 10, 2006 @ 2:57 pm
With talk like that I seriously wonder if you're not one of them.
I mean, if Iwere a "smart" troll, I'd come in here and try to convince everyone to NOT stand up to the right.
I'd try to convince them that fighting fire with fire is a fools game, and always taut the "we're bigger than that" mentaility.
Not that I think you are, but with a defeatist attitude like that, you might as well be.
We need strong liberals, not weak ones. We need FIGHTERS, not RUNNERS.
You know I am fully aware of how the election was stolen, you've no doubt seen my countless posts on the topic.
But what REALLY lost us the election, was Al GORE NOT showing his backbone, other than to show it walking away, when he should have put up a better fight, and John Kerry did the same thing.
Think I'm wrong? Just watch Farenheit 911 again, and watch Gore smack the gavel silencing ever representative who had something accurate to say.
We need fighters. We need "unreasonable" people. We need BRUISERS.
We've got more then enough of the rest.
June 10th, 2006 at 3:09 pmKen, as long as we live in a Democracy, what people think is relevant. I'm not saying we're going to convert Ann Coulter to liberal ideals but we have to address her large audience, and show them exactly what they are voting for and contributing to.
Rather than boycott her book, I would encourage everyone who voted Republican in 2004 to read it, but everytime she uses the word "liberal" substitute the word "Jew" and tell me if you're still comfortable with it.
June 10th, 2006 at 3:10 pmFLAVIUS, You mean if Gore in 2000 had done what DeLay recommended in his final Congressional speach, we wouldn't be in the Iraq quagmire? You may have a point there.
June 10th, 2006 at 3:13 pmThere are plenty of other threads NOT about Ann Coutler.
In fact, they just put up a good one about Bush and the war.
Yet you're in here trying to convince people to not post in here, or at least to not talk about what the thread is about.
If you don't want us talking about Coulter, then you need to convince Judd not to post threads about her. Meanwhile you've managed to fully take the topic off her, and water down everyones arguments and points in here.
Way to go slugger.
June 10th, 2006 at 3:14 pmFLAVIUS, You mean if Gore in 2000 had done what DeLay recommended in his final Congressional speach, we wouldn’t be in the Iraq quagmire? You may have a point there.
Comment by cynical ex-hippie — June 10, 2006 @ 3:13 pm
Unfortunately I missed that speech. I think I had root canal or something funner like that to do.
Please elaborate.
June 10th, 2006 at 3:21 pmUh class. please pay attention
It seemed clear to me during AC 'sinterview on the Today Show, that she didn't believe her own outrageous comments; but folks, she's promoting her book. So why would Other book authors damn her? They know AC's just on a press junket. That's all.
June 10th, 2006 at 3:25 pmQuestion.
Does anyone remember what happened to the book "A million little peices" once people started talking about it, and openly criticizing it?
In case you are under the misconception that it helped sales, allow me to elaborate.
It was number 1.
Now its not even in the top 100.
June 10th, 2006 at 3:32 pmStop posting comments here. Tell Matalin what you think of her failure to condemn Coultur. Matalin's tel#(202) 903-7627. Fill her voicemail up with your outrage.
June 10th, 2006 at 3:35 pmBy the way, you may want to reference Matalin's book in which she extols family values and the need for character buliding with her own daughters. Ms. Matalin's defense of Coulter suggests that attacking widows is a good famil vallue.
I think it is time to get a bit angry about the likes of Ann Coulter and start fighting back with their own medicine.
Her labeling of the East Brunswick widows as “broads†and “witches†is despicable. Suggesting that they are enjoying their husband’s tragic deaths is simply immoral, irresponsible, and ugly.
Ann Coulter is the reason for the saying that “beauty is skin deep, but ugly cuts right to the bone.†Ann Coulter is simply “ugly to the bone.â€
She has suggested that the country would be better off if a Supreme Court Justice and a President were assassinated. That rhetoric is simply irresponsible. If a high school student were to make those suggestions in a paper for school about a teacher or principal, the student would be expelled or at a minimum, suspended from school. Behaving as a responsible adult and setting an example for our youth is so important, but Ms. “ugly to the bone†Coulter, just doesn’t get that concept.
Ms. Coulter owes these widows and the nation an apology, but that apology will never come because she is “ugly to the bone.â€
June 10th, 2006 at 4:14 pmUm, are there nothing but shills on this thread?
I mean, if you get upset about a non-issue where any sane person believes coulter and matalin are way out of bounds here, then you are dumb or you are a shill.
Gay marriage and immigration required responses, though needed to be pointed out as the wedge issues they are.
This, on the other hand, is just a case of republicans saying "I made you flinch."
And Flavius. Your football analogies are stupid in light of the foe. I mean, why give the "c" word your all. Isn't it a bit silly?
Intercourse coulter and matalin with the horses they rode in on. Are you their horses?
June 10th, 2006 at 4:26 pmto the moon with both ann and mary
June 10th, 2006 at 4:27 pm"I mean, if Iwere a “smart†troll, I’d come in here and try to convince everyone to NOT stand up to the right."
This isn't standing up to the right, this is standing up to a couple of obvious hateful morons. No I am not one of them, but I wonder about those who want to keep the unconstructive argument going.
What is the point? Does it make you smarter, better, or tougher to stand up to a nothing?
Treat these shits like the refuse they truly are. Ignore them.
I am not stifling comment, I am adding to comment and trying to get you all to think about what's really important.
If you think smacking the likes of coulter and matalin will get democrats in power, or progressives, or anyone other than the milquetoast democrats like pelosi into seats of power, then you are as dumb as the arguments you enthrall yourselves with skewering.
It is fun, but let's not lend these idiots more weight than they merit.
None.
June 10th, 2006 at 4:30 pm: I’m not saying we’re going to convert Ann Coulter to liberal ideals but we have to address her large audience, and show them exactly what they are voting for and contributing to."
That's not what you're doing. This is not FOX. This is the choir, and a few shills who want to keep this crap going.
Let's look at the fake Zarqawi, if you want to talk about something relevant.
I am trying to render the offensive and hateful coulter and matalin irrelevant.
They are irrelevant.
June 10th, 2006 at 4:32 pmWatch this too!
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June 10th, 2006 at 4:35 pmI mean, if you get upset about a non-issue where any sane person believes coulter and matalin are way out of bounds here, then you are dumb or you are a shill.
Comment by Ken Daves — June 10, 2006 @ 4:26 pm
You're the only one in here thats "upset" Ken.
In case you haven't noticed, I'm have a good time.
June 10th, 2006 at 4:48 pmIn truth I have more respect for Ann Coulter than I do for many of the liberals and so called "progressives" in here.
Ann plays you guys like a book, with your 2 dimensional thinking.
For you guys, its either get angry, or roll over and play nice.
You just don't get her, and you just don't get why you keep loosing elections.
Coulters having a good time pushing your buttons while selling her books.
When you guys are capable of standing up to her and beating her at her own game, you'll always be in second place.
On 911 Republicans were angry, and wanted to kick some ass.
Democrats "echoed" those sentiments.
Can you tell the difference?
June 10th, 2006 at 4:53 pmNo I am not one of them, but I wonder about those who want to keep the unconstructive argument going.
He says and keeps arguing.
June 10th, 2006 at 4:53 pm125, yeah, maybe so, but she is butt ugly
she loses
June 10th, 2006 at 4:57 pmYes, unbelievable, but I am consistent in my argument.
I have a constructive purpose, which is more than may be said for most of the reflexive hate-filled retorts that preceeded.
There is a reason we are told from time to time not to descend to the level of those who we are against.
This is one of those cases.
It is never clever pointing out the obvious, and coulter and matalin are just too obvious.
Don't hate me, don't be reflexive. I agree with everyone who hates these idiots, but I also don't want to spend time adding too much to the fray. It lowers us all to their level.
Don't be defensive, be thoughtful.
June 10th, 2006 at 5:01 pmThen Clubber Worfeus, you have difficulty with reading comprehension. There is a great deal of negative emotion going on here.
These assholes are not worth it.
Name-calling lowers the debate. That's what's going on. I like that. That's fine.
But let's be honest that it isn't constructive and you are only fulfilling the hopes of the idiots who are set upon us to get these reactions.
Sometimes it's important to fight back. This, I believe, is not one of those times.
Let them talk themselves blue in the face until the world sees them for what they are.
When I read these posts, mostly, they are as base as the words of those being complained about.
Where is the difference? How do you wish to separate yourselves from these idiots if you play their game all the time?
June 10th, 2006 at 5:07 pm"For you guys, its either get angry, or roll over and play nice."
See? This is how they do it. We have reacted, so they get to define us.
If we reacted less, or more reasonably, then we could be the ones defining them.
If you read what I've said, I don't fall into either of these descriptions. I agree, but point out the relative unimportance of these imbeciles.
This fool is right, ann coulter is playing us. She is a shill. Matalin is an operative. Period.
Oh, and worfeus is too.
June 10th, 2006 at 5:10 pmDon’t be defensive, be thoughtful.
Comment by Ken Daves — June 10, 2006 @ 5:01 pm
You're reading a lot of things where they don't exist...
Bottomline - if you don't like the thread - pick another. You can't change anyone but yourself. And staying in here arguing while insulting people for arguing certainly isn't going to help your cause. You made your point. Now, it seems like you need to be right and everyone needs to do what you want or you'll stay in here and keep insulting everyone. I'd call that hypocrisy Ken...
June 10th, 2006 at 5:10 pmI have a constructive purpose, which is more than may be said for most of the reflexive hate-filled retorts that preceeded.
Comment by Ken Daves — June 10, 2006 @ 5:01 pm
A. I know you're not talking about my posts, as there was nothing but jocularity contained in mine. Get a clue.
B. Everytime someone in here makes a semi witty counter to one of the Coulterists, and you come in whining and balling about "playing nice" and telling everyone to "just ignore her", you further reinforce the common prevailing notion that democrats are wimps, which is why the American people hesitate to vote for them.
Like I said, go find a thread where they're talking about easter bunny's or candy canes, or something where you'll feel more in your environment.
We need sluggers in here, not crybabies.
June 10th, 2006 at 5:17 pmI'd call your reaction just that, a reaction without thought.
Unbelievable, what is your real stance on this issue? Do you think they are wrong? What constructive, and give it your all, do you have to say about this?
Can you not see that if we just ignore this crap other than to point out that they are way outside the mainstream of American thought, even of what one would expect of a FOX viewer, then they will either shut up and go away because it had no effect, or they will keep up their stupidity and they will self-destruct.
I am for their destruction by any means necessary. I just think this bickering and bolstering the argument by name-calling does not get the job done.
I wonder about the motivations of the people on this site who do not listen to reason.
It's not "my way" or anyting like that.
I just think it's a good idea to encourage people to think about what they are doing by venting every time a republican operative gives you something to vent about.
It's their game, and you are playing it brilliantly, unbelievable.
So much so, that I wonder if that isn't your point.
June 10th, 2006 at 5:17 pmSluggers reaching out to beat the shit out of straw men.
You didn't read everything I've said, and if you did, then you indeed have a problem with reading comprehension.
June 10th, 2006 at 5:19 pmSometimes it’s important to fight back. This, I believe, is not one of those times.
Comment by Ken Daves — June 10, 2006 @ 5:07 pm
If you don't think this is a time to step up, then maybe Coulters right. Maybe the left is a bunch of wimps to afraid to get their hands dirty.
Hell maybe I should become a republican.
At least then I won't be ashamed of my own sides commitment to victory.
June 10th, 2006 at 5:20 pmCan you imagine a soldier standing up in a fire fight and saying, hey guys, why are we shooting back at them?
Why stoop to their level?
We'd win a lot of wars that way.
:|
June 10th, 2006 at 5:22 pmAnn Coulter is a caricature of the Republican Party. Anyone wanting to know what is wrong with the Republicans - what has gone horribly wrong with the party - they only need look to her.
June 10th, 2006 at 5:24 pmKill em!
June 10th, 2006 at 5:24 pmPlease take a moment to read Agitprop's list of Coulter supporters. Pass the paste!
June 10th, 2006 at 5:26 pmI’d call your reaction just that, a reaction without thought.
Comment by Ken Daves — June 10, 2006 @ 5:17 pm
Atleast one of us was able to be concise while doing it...
Again, you're reading a lot into my intention without knowing me or it.
You've made your point Ken. And made sure than in the future, I'll just skip over your posts...
Have fun Worfeus. This one isn't worth your time... He's a bully in sheep's clothing who won't shut up until he's gotten his way.
June 10th, 2006 at 5:28 pmOkay unbelievable and worfeus...who are the democrats you support? Failing that, who are the progressives you support?
Failing that, what would a politician have to do to get your support?
Tell me about the values you hold dear, and tell me about what motivates you to something positive?
June 10th, 2006 at 5:29 pmSelf-delusion, unbelievable. I read your posts. You are rarely clear and concise.
June 10th, 2006 at 5:31 pmHave fun Worfeus.
Comment by unbelievablyhot — June 10, 2006 @ 5:28 pm
Oh I will mylady.
I'm having a ball.
June 10th, 2006 at 5:33 pmbesides, who is complaining about whom for not agreeing and for trying to expand the argument? Isn't that a case of your demanding of me that I "play nice"?
No logic to your arguments.
June 10th, 2006 at 5:35 pmOkay unbelievable and worfeus…who are the democrats you support? Failing that, who are the progressives you support?
Comment by Ken Daves — June 10, 2006 @ 5:29 pm
You want a list?
At the top, you can put Al Gore.
If ever there was a capable, super intelligent benevolant and concerned leader, its Al Gore.
No greater democrat is there today.
Of course the lilly livered democratic leadership is too stupid to rally the troops behind the man who can beat anything the right puts up.
If they'd learn from our republican brothers and sisters, we'd win more often.
Al Gore is smarter, sharper, wittier(well maybe not that one), and more experienced at leading a government that WORKS, than any candidate on the field today.
June 10th, 2006 at 5:37 pmConservatives are SCARED to death when Liberals morph from Flavius to Clubber -NOT.... But my personal favourite: QUOTING Fahrenheit 9/11 as Gospel - sorry atheists - if this weren't so pitiful, it might be humourous.
June 10th, 2006 at 5:37 pmCLUBBER WORFEUS - Son you REALLY need to check this movie out:
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June 10th, 2006 at 5:39 pmKen Daves - Does it seem ironic to you that you have spent the past three and a half hours talking about Ann Coulter while trying to convince people that they should not waste their time talking about Ann Coulter?
June 10th, 2006 at 5:41 pmAl Gore is cool, but in the last election he too fell victim to the republicans who painted him in a certain way, as stiff, uncomfortable in his own skin.
I watched Al Gore when he was in the Senate and he was amazing because IN SPITE of his lack of charisma, what he said was so completely enthralling, and he was speaking from his heart about his concern for all of us.
What sucked was, when the debates started, the republicans had gotten him to morph into something uncomfortably less-stiff, less himself, and also, when you think about it, less-presidential.
Had he stuck to being who he is, rather than bending when handlers told him to be worried about how he was perceived, we might have had a very different course over the last 5 years.
My only concern about Gore is that, that he caved.
I do very much like the new Gore, but in terms of president, I am waiting and seeing.
I agree with you on Gore, mostly.
June 10th, 2006 at 5:42 pmGod get over yourselves...you're not that damned interesting or compelling!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
June 10th, 2006 at 5:44 pmGW Superchrist, you too fail to comprehend what you read. That is NOT what I've been talking about and you know it.
Don't lie.
June 10th, 2006 at 5:44 pmI’m having a ball.
Comment by CLUBBER WORFEUS — June 10, 2006 @ 5:33 pm
It's obvious. You're playing and he's just clenching tighter and tighter... Not a good salesman that one. Someone should send him 'How to win Friends and Influence People' So far he's broken all the rules and then some...
June 10th, 2006 at 5:45 pmWhile the democrats are busing trying to "sound" erudite, and worrying about their own careers, the republicans are preparing to rally the troops behind a single leader.
And they will do it if you guys don't learn.
But from your last few posts Ken, insulting UNB like that, its becoming more and more clear that maybe you are just a troll, "INCOGNITO" as it were. Maybe you're really a right winger, using guilt and talk of "being nice" and "just ignore them" to keep this side from ever really launching a fight.
Maybe.
But if you're not on their side, you oughta be.
June 10th, 2006 at 5:47 pmComment by mighty aphrodite — June 10, 2006 @ 5:37 pm
Look what the dog dragged in... another bloated maggot-laden carcass stinking up the room. Better make sure he's up to date on his shots. This one is pretty nasty.
You're just pissed that we won't read your silly book Mighty mAnn...
June 10th, 2006 at 5:48 pmFirst time posting - but i couldn't help myself...
Ken's attitude would be fine, if he didn't insist on everyone getting to his exact point-of-view. That's so right-wing, isn't it?
I get that there will be a broad mix of peoples on the left countering right-wing idiotness. Not all of us are willing to play nice anymore. Playing nice on the left may have already caused the death of American democracy (1776-2001).
The left is out of power. Think about that. We have no political power in this country. This leaves our country and our planet highly unbalanced.
I've begun to think the memeset from the left is afraid of power and fails to understand how one acheives political power or its relative importance. Generally, the Left would rather just be morally superior than actually figure out how political power is acheived.
We don't fight like we expect to win. That's the hallmark of a gutless loser.
Such is today's Left...
June 10th, 2006 at 5:50 pmBut if you’re not on their side, you oughta be.
Comment by CLUBBER WORFEUS — June 10, 2006 @ 5:47 pm
Just call him Joe Lieberman...
June 10th, 2006 at 5:50 pmMighty - How you doing sweetheart?
It's always good to see you setting them pesky liberals straight.
Jesus loves you!
June 10th, 2006 at 5:52 pmMy only concern about Gore is that, that he caved.
Comment by Ken Daves — June 10, 2006 @ 5:42 pm
First reasonable thing you've said.
Ok, I agree. I posted earlier that it upset me that Al showed them his back instead of his backbone.
But everyone makes mistakes.
Al Gore WAS the VICE PRESIDENT of the UNITED STATES for 8 freakin years, over the most prosperous and successful America I have ever known in my lifetime.
No one, and I mean NO ONE, is more qualified to lead us out of the valley of Pharoh, then Big Al.
June 10th, 2006 at 5:52 pmCoulter hit a liberal nerve!! HA HA, po' babies.
June 10th, 2006 at 5:53 pmGood job of ignoring me.
I have actually been effective at restructuring the argument, but seem to have caught the ire of those who want to keep playing to the shills.
Most others, I've noticed, have moved on.
Some people get it, and some people can't even see themselves in what they argue against.
Mostly, like republicans, you just lie to change the debate rather than addressing the real issue.
My issue is that when you are given this fodder, you descend to the level of those you argue against.
Why? Does it make you feel better?
It does no good.
Now, I'm done with this thread.
June 10th, 2006 at 5:53 pmI do very much like the new Gore, but in terms of president, I am waiting and seeing.
Comment by Ken Daves — June 10, 2006 @ 5:42 pm
Which is why we fail.
Everyones "waiting" and no ones doing anything.
Choose this day whom ye will serve
June 10th, 2006 at 5:54 pmMatlin is as big a as Coulter, I hope they both get .
June 10th, 2006 at 5:54 pmWe don’t fight like we expect to win. That’s the hallmark of a gutless loser.
Comment by morty — June 10, 2006 @ 5:50 pm
Well put... And true. I don't know which angers me more - the right's behavior or the left's apathy.
I hope we have decent Independents to choose from in the next several elections. I'd like to vote for someone who isn't entrenched in the political quagmire.
June 10th, 2006 at 5:55 pmJesus loves you!
Comment by G.W.SuperChrist — June 10, 2006 @ 5:52 pm
Stop lying to her ; )
June 10th, 2006 at 5:58 pmWorfeus, I lied. I'm still here.
I am one of those who will always vote for the lesser of two evils, because realistically, that is the only choice we are ever given.
At all costs, no matter what, I want to see every republican (and that include Murtha and Lieberman) out of DC, out of our lives, and put out to pasture.
Gore is probably the best likely candidate, if only HE would announce.
I agree, it is time to work together to get someone worth voting for on the democratic ticket.
If you think hillary is the answer, then you are a republican, or you spend your time on the "safe" democrat sites.
I'm just consistent in my thoughts, and my point of view. I do not "demand" that people do as I say, but I do hope people think before responding to every republican game thrown our way.
If we keep tilting at these windmills, we are not stronger, we are diminished.
Last election it was gay marriage, this time it will be gay marriage with a little immigration thrown in.
It is not that these are not important issues, and FAR more important than these two women and their hate, but they pale in comparison to finding someone who will uncover the lies we were told on 9/11; it pales in comparison to the need to get out of the middle east and to halt our plan to locate forces there for the foreseeable future; it pales in comparison to the need to right our democratic republic and rid ourselves of the criminals who now occupy our most important offices as the result of two stolen elections; and it pales in comparison with the need to ensure that we have open honest and fair elections.
That's all I'm saying. Promise.
June 10th, 2006 at 6:04 pmDear Prince of Darkness - doing great - hope you're well. Watching this thread is entertaining, but a bit ghoulish - it reminds me of a train wreck.
But in a helpful spirit, let me suggest that Al Gore would be an EXCELLENT choice for '08. But your party also has some real contenders in:
June 10th, 2006 at 6:05 pmRuss Feingold, Hillary Clinton, John Kerry, John Murtha, the list just keeps on growing ....
poor ann.
so anxious to get attention, and no talent. i understand. i am in the same boat.
people like ann and myself need attention in lieu of getting laid.
i bet she had focus groups to test what comments would get her the best coverage.
she should use the $ she makes off being a media whore this to hire a hooker......m/f and then eat.
bless her heartless soul.
jack e. jett
June 10th, 2006 at 6:07 pmMy issue is that when you are given this fodder, you descend to the level of those you argue against.
Comment by Ken Daves — June 10, 2006 @ 5:53 pm
Ken - You are the kind of guy that would bring a knife to a gun fight.
The fact of the matter is that these are critical times... the fate of our species and our planet depend on people standing up to these unconscionable dickweeds.
We can not choose where when and how we will fight them... we must fight them everywhere... all of the time... with as much force as we can muster.
We need to adopt a Churchillesk strategy... fight them on the beaches, on the landing grounds, in the fields, the streets, and in the hills… we should never surrender.
June 10th, 2006 at 6:14 pmI still think that Ann Coulter should be in jail after saying that the only question is to impeach President Clinton or assassinate him. That my friend is a crazy bitch. The other thing is how brave a man James Carville must be to wake up next to that witch Mary Matalin every day.Here is a little thought for James she is bringing up your children. James get out while you can.
June 10th, 2006 at 6:15 pmThe problem is, it suits your point of view that you refer to this as a "gun fight" when really, you give them far more credit than they deserve.
This is spit balls, and YOU want to bring in nuclear weaponry.
June 10th, 2006 at 6:16 pm"Coulter hit a liberal nerve!! HA HA, po’ babies."
Naah. For many of us, it's a matter of having that elusive thing called taste.
I don't like that Coulter makes money and is popular like I don't like the same thing about the producers of, say, _American Idol_. That is, it grieves me to see the widespread appeal of crap.
Tacky. Tacky. Tasteless. Tawdry. Low class. No class. Trailer trash.
Coulter is a car on blocks in the yard next door. It doesn't hurt, but you don't like seeing it.
June 10th, 2006 at 6:20 pmMatalin is a lying and savage bitch who has the ugliest mouth this side of Clutch Cargo
June 10th, 2006 at 6:20 pmI predict something bad will soon befall Ann Coulter for her vicious remarks. I would not stand near her for the next year.
June 10th, 2006 at 6:22 pmThe problem is, it suits your point of view that you refer to this as a “gun fight†when really, you give them far more credit than they deserve.
This is spit balls, and YOU want to bring in nuclear weaponry.
Comment by Ken Daves — June 10, 2006 @ 6:16 pm
You sir completely missed the jest of my comments.
The point is you don't always get to set the terms of the engagement... if a gun fight breaks out... meaning your opponent pulls out a gun with the intention of using it on you... it does not do you any good to take a principled stand on fighting with knifes only.
You must bring a gun or better if you hope to live to fight another day... and yes if you have a nuclear weapon in your back pocket… by all means use it!
June 10th, 2006 at 6:28 pmPrince of Darkness - Sir Winston WOULD be the best example for Dems to follow - unfortunately, you're aligned with people more like the losers Chamberlain, McGovern, Dukakis, Mondale, and the Department of Peace advocate himself, Moonbat Kucinich
June 10th, 2006 at 6:31 pmYou could just not fight. This is a fight not worth the effort.
So many people get it right, I think. I really like Glen Becker's comments.
It is you who miss the gist of my point which is that this is NOT a gunfight, but you are all the worse for making it into one.
Is anus coulter any worse off? Moron matalin? No. They are glad to have us discussing them.
I say let the trash stay outside.
June 10th, 2006 at 6:32 pmKucinich is a real patriot, and prior to CNN "checking in with the democrats to see how the presumed front-runner kerry is doing" (a direct quote,) only Kucinich got everyone behind him.
He was inspiring. Kerry was not. He, in fact, prior to the media's gaze, was dead last.
Once a loser, always a loser. He defines useless democrats.
June 10th, 2006 at 6:34 pm[...] From ThinkProgress: [...]
June 10th, 2006 at 6:37 pmDear Prince of Darkness - doing great - hope you’re well.
But in a helpful spirit, let me suggest that Al Gore would be an EXCELLENT choice for ‘08.
Comment by mighty aphrodite — June 10, 2006 @ 6:05 pm
Mighty - I thought I told you that I am merely a duke... not a prince... but thank you I am doing well.
You're right Al Gore would be an excellent choice... hell he already won once... and after eight strait years of the worst president ever people would be running each other over trying to get into the voting booth to undo the worst mistake this country ever made.
June 10th, 2006 at 6:38 pmLet's not forget the Republican All Star Winners:
Shotgun Dick Cheney, George Decider Bush, Scooter Pending Felony Rap Libby, Dirty Tom Delay, Weepy Duke Cunningham, Bob Unhinged Ney, Tricky Dick Nixon, Spiro Agnew, G. Gordon "Felon" Liddy, Congressman Gay Ed Schrock, Katherine Harris, Ernie Multiple Charges Fletcher, Disgraced Fromer Judge and Electoral Loser Roy Moore, James No One In MY Family Is Gay Inhofe and the beat goes on.
-GSD
June 10th, 2006 at 6:42 pmthe Department of Peace advocate himself, Moonbat Kucinich
Comment by mighty aphrodite — June 10, 2006 @ 6:31 pm
What are you talking about... Kucinich has got balls as big as church bells!!!
Just because he doesn't like war doesn't mean that he's not up for a good fight.
June 10th, 2006 at 6:43 pm"Just because he doesn’t like war doesn’t mean that he’s not up for a good fight."
Violence is the last refuge of the incompetent.
June 10th, 2006 at 6:46 pmMy goodness, Ken Daves, you are so full of yourself. You apparently are claiming that you're a progressive, but I find that hard to believe. Your arrogance, condescension and hypocrisy are so Republican.
June 10th, 2006 at 6:48 pm#184 Willy - I am not arrogant, condescending or hypocritical.
It's just that I'm right and everyone else is wrong!
If you were not so busy hating Bush you could spend your time loving me.
LOVE ME!!!
June 10th, 2006 at 6:59 pmCoulter is a man in drag. Just look at her. If that isn't a drag queen I'd like to know what is.
June 10th, 2006 at 7:00 pmThat last remark has been reported. That was not me, obviously.
If you do not stand up for the free speech of those you most disagree with, then you do not believe in freedom of speech.
Creating battles, fights, where none need exist is the mark of republicans.
I'm not so rigid as you like to say, but I would never ever ask anyone on this thread to care an iota about me.
Anyway, whoever masqueraded as me, hopefully, will be blocked in the future.
June 10th, 2006 at 7:04 pmBoth Mary and Ann are boring and their schtick is old.
forgetabouthem.
We have much more important and relevant things to pay attention to than these two old bats screaming for attention.
Put them in time out, shut the door, and forget about them.
next
June 10th, 2006 at 7:09 pmIf you do not stand up for the free speech of those you most disagree with, then you do not believe in freedom of speech.
Comment by Ken Daves — June 10, 2006 @ 7:04 pm
Is that what you’ve been trying to do today... stand up for free speech?
I thought you were trying to convince people not to speak out against Coulters inflammatory rhetoric... you know... kinda the opposite of promoting free speech.
June 10th, 2006 at 7:14 pmNo christ, but that clearly is your defensive way of handling it.
I just think that we need to stop playing into their hand with our "whining", even if it masquerades as "puffery".
You, like republicans, overstate and misinterpret others' words in order to have an argument you think you can win.
You make straw men.
If you read everything I've said, it has been consistent and in line with exactly what Raven said, though not as concisely, in #187.
June 10th, 2006 at 7:17 pm"Kucinich is a real patriot, and prior to CNN “checking in with the democrats to see how the presumed front-runner kerry is doing†(a direct quote,) only Kucinich got everyone behind him.
He was inspiring. Kerry was not. He, in fact, prior to the media’s gaze, was dead last.
Once a loser, always a loser. He defines useless democrats.
Comment by Ken Daves"
I find myself agreeing with you on this, but at the same time, if he were the nominee again in '08, I likely would vote for him again. How 'bout you? Anf would you vote for Mrs. Clinton in '08? I likely would, even though I detest her at the moment.
June 10th, 2006 at 7:20 pmIt's really strange that conservatives come to the rescue of the rich with tax incentives and playing the role that rich pay too much yet, if someone husband burns to death (including his sac) and their families get paid to enjoy the rest of their lives that's a great moral wrong. That's horseshit, don't conservatives have enough people to pick on why not rant about people on welfare and then support murdering civilians in Iraq.
All of it is saying something that affects people, some of it is true, yet she's like a modern rebel because she offended somebody.
June 10th, 2006 at 7:21 pmWe have to stop caring about what they think and say and treat it with the same irrelevance they treat everything we say.
Comment by Ken Daves — June 10, 2006 @ 3:04 pm
Ken - It seems that you cared when someone misrepresented you in post number 184... why didn't you treat their remarks as if they were irrelevant and not lower yourself by responding?
June 10th, 2006 at 7:27 pmAs I viewed Coulter making her tirade on "Today" I commented to my wife that there are only two women in the political world who would support such inane accusations, Mary Matlin and Bey Buchanan. Mary didn't let me down -- but what else could be expected? I'm waiting for Bey to drop the other shoe -- or have I missed hearing it? Keith Olbermann was correct in stating Our Lady of Perpetual Bile is without mind or soul.
June 10th, 2006 at 7:32 pmI wonder if we can believe Mary does not know Ann. My hunch is that they are members of "Hatemongers United." And did she mean she did not know Ann in the Biblical sense? And James Carville is really married to one of these witches? I cant' wait to read what Andy Borowitz writes about the impact this might have on the Matalin-Carville marriage.
June 10th, 2006 at 7:35 pmIf one wants to look into the heart-without-a-soul of the conservative Republiscum...
...one only need gaze upon the gargoylish features of the likes of Coulter, Matalin, and O'Bierne...
...these TREASONOUS, diabolical Medusas are TRULY...
...UGGGLYYY inside and out...
June 10th, 2006 at 7:38 pmRemember - Prince of Darkness- Ken D. is an excellent embodiment of a common affliction in progs - hypocrisy. They tell us how much they love Free Speech - and propose Hate Speech bans on campuses. They misread and misapply "freedom of religion" to "freedom from religion". That reminds me, there is a truly amusing book out by Peter Schweizer "Do AS I Say (Not as I Do) which examines liberal/progressive hypocrisy - and you thought conservatives had the market cornered??? Foolish Prince...
June 10th, 2006 at 7:38 pmI guess that by Matlin and Coulter's standards, Mother's Against Drunk Driving (MADD) should keep it's mouth shut, too...
June 10th, 2006 at 7:39 pmI guess by Matlin and Coulter's standards, Mothers Against Drunk Driving (MADD) should keep its mouth shut, too...
June 10th, 2006 at 7:43 pmNo christ, but that clearly is your defensive way of handling it.
I just think that we need to stop playing into their hand with our “whiningâ€, even if it masquerades as “pufferyâ€.
You, like republicans, overstate and misinterpret others’ words in order to have an argument you think you can win.
You make straw men.
Comment by Ken Daves — June 10, 2006 @ 7:17 pm
Ken - I think you are probably a nice, well intentioned, thoughtful individual.
I respect your call for grace and integrity, but the fact of the matter is these things dont win elections.
In a "reality" TV society people understand straw men... they see the people that beats the shit out of the most straw men as tough guys, patriots, and winners.
It is not a good thing that so many people are so easily swayed by such week arguments… but they are... and unfortunately you don't need to be a critical thinker to pull a voting lever.
P.S. I don't whine about shit!
June 10th, 2006 at 7:43 pmI was surprised to see people mentioning Ward Churchill on this blog. He spoke at the college I attended and I covered it for my local community radio. I was shocked at how many reporters there were at the event. There were more reporters there than students. The right-wing made an appearance and made a fuss. Then I heard his speech. He explained very aritculately why he was angry about the way our government has behaved over the last several hundred years. Very little of his actual speech was ever broadcast anywhere. It's disgusting that this blond bitch is given the degree of attention for her biased idiot opinions and this person was only heard because he said one thing in response to 9/11. I'm proud our school hosted him and that it pissed off a bunch of right wing nut jobs. I'm also glad that other people on this blog still remember him all this time later.
June 10th, 2006 at 7:47 pm#192. Because without my comment, no one would KNOW that was not me.
I don't like lies being told about me, especially when used to bolster a failing argument. You lie to be able to have the argument you want, and that is reprehensible.
#190. I love Kucinich. I detest hillary. I hated her husband, after I realized that he was the perfect man to lay the path for bush. Think about privacy issues and Monica, if not the Balkanization that will surely take place in Iraq if we are not careful. Also, who is married to that skank matalin? Oh, clinton's former advisor.
I would not vote for any candidate who supports or supported this war. Period. I would not vote, or I would throw my vote away.
Voting for hillary would be rolling over, like so many people think I advocate.
June 10th, 2006 at 7:52 pmJanie - I saw Churchill clean David Horowitz's clock in a debate on C-Span... very intertaining!
Ward is a good guy!
June 10th, 2006 at 7:56 pmTomorrow's news: The blogosphere is all upset about ann coulter and mary matalin, but who is really to blame?
That's the way they do it. They characterise us as people who are weak, when it suits them, or who get angry, when it suits them...but I recall that a certain republican operative pointed out that they dictate what we argue about, that they decide and by the time we are done arguing, they have moved on.
June 10th, 2006 at 7:57 pmCarville is controlled by Matalin in the bedroom > he is NOT a very good looking guy, so Mary probably tells him he is lucky to have her as a wife! Since he married her his advice for Democrats have led to defeats for everyone he helps as a paid advisor! Mary may have married him to silence him because he was once a great campaign stratigist!
Comment by Jay Randal
Jay,
I agree that Carville is not a good lucking guy, but do you think Mary Matalin is a good-looking woman? She's hardly a trophy wife like--let's say--Catherine Zeta Jones or Angelina Jolie, when she was with Billy Bob Thorton. I do agree Carville's abilities as a strategist have declined. But I myself don't want to speculate on what kind of special bedroom services she gives him.
#195 big papa,
June 10th, 2006 at 7:59 pmYou forgot two of the ugliest Medusas of all: Katherine Harris and Jean Schmidt.
if u want to see what your up against read some of the blogs on this issue on ABC,s news site, its filled with so much hate and ignorance you'll seriously think about packing it all up and finding another country.Your dealing with people from the middle ages awaiting the rapture.You cant expect to reason with them they thinkJesus is a war hero.
June 10th, 2006 at 8:19 pmWe have to stop caring about what they think and say and treat it with the same irrelevance they treat everything we say.
Comment by Ken Daves — June 10, 2006 @ 3:04 pm
Ken.
We will take your strategic plan to "act non-chalant" under advisement.
June 10th, 2006 at 8:42 pm"I take her larger point that in the absence of being able to make persuasive arguments you throw out messengers that — can’t be — it’s politically incorrection to argue with, you know the verbiage is a little, a little stressful.
What do you think about her point? Her point that you can’t — you know Cindy Sheehan — if you throw yourself in the political arena, then you should be able to address political issues, and people should be able to speak back to you."
This is complete gobbledy-goop talk and lacking logic.
The Goops they lick their fingers
June 10th, 2006 at 8:46 pmAnd the Goops they lick their knives:
They spill their froth on the tablecloth
Oh, they lead disgusting lives!
The Goops they talk while eating,
And loud and fast they chew;
And that is why I'm glad that I
Am not a Goop, are you?
Ann Coulter and Mary Matlin are bitching about the left using "victims as cover" for it's treasonous positions.
From Salon.com:
http://dir.salon.com/story/news/feature/2004/11/05/bush_ads/index.html
June 10th, 2006 at 8:56 pmProof that Kucinich is not what that imbecile aphroditzy says of him can be found here:
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article13558.htm
This is what we need in our party, to lead our party.
June 10th, 2006 at 8:58 pmNo Zookeeper, you are terrific, and I always enjoy reading your posts. If I am in any way civilized it is because I learn from reading from people like you.
But still, let’s talk about impeachment…
Comment by Ken Daves
That was so nice. I'm tearing up again. *sniff*
June 10th, 2006 at 8:58 pmYes, please, let's all start discussing impeachment. i'm tired of the Skank of the Day.
Imus failed to ask her the obvious. He should have simply read her a direct quote about how thes women are "enjoying" their suffering and asked, "Do you agree?" and then not let up until she gave a direct yes or no answer. Look for Matalin's "larger point" bit to show up again and again among the right and Republicans. She was merely testing an agree-upon evasive response. That's what they do . Santorum, at least. didn't buy into it. Watch for who does.
June 10th, 2006 at 9:01 pmNow there’s an excellent bumpersticker! :)
Comment by unbelievable
It was! Zoo Jr has been talking all day about "back when I was in high school." Silly rabbit.
Wow, I get lost for about 6 hours and things get interesting around here.
June 10th, 2006 at 9:06 pmHas Matalin expressed these views to her president whose handlers stage press conference-productions for his appearances; or, how about saying that to her boss, Dick Cheney in his customarily undisclosed location.
June 10th, 2006 at 9:09 pmPersonally I don't see how James Carville sleeps with that.
To each his own I guess.
June 10th, 2006 at 9:15 pmWonder what Mary Matlin and Ann Coulter said about the Dixie Chicks' UN-politically correct comment about Bush....
June 10th, 2006 at 9:36 pmI swear that woman is a man. Cover up her hair and look at her face--that is a face of a man (including her adams apple). She is a transsexual folks.
No woman's brain could spew those kind of hateful,heartless, tasteless, words that come out of her mouth.
June 10th, 2006 at 9:54 pmHmmm the reason the dixie chicks can't sell all of their seats is not because no one likes them. it may be because MOST PEOPLE ARE BROKE THANKS TO THE REPUBLICAN WAR MONGERS AND OIL HUNGRY PIGS. ANN COULTER IS A GUTLESS, SPINELESS BRAINLESS WONDER. HER WEBSITE IS ALL ABOUT ME AND MY. SHE IS BEYOND GODLESS. ANN COULTER IS MEAN AND HATEFUL THOSE JERSEY WIDOWS OUGHT TO HIRE TONY SOPRANO AND HAVE HER WAKED AND CUT UP FOR PORK CUTLETS. THE SECRET'S IN THE SAUCE! TAWANDA!!!!!!
June 10th, 2006 at 10:30 pmGeorge W Bush provoked the 9-11 attacks because he loves oil profits more than he loves people.
June 10th, 2006 at 10:30 pmCarville and Matalin are working towards the same goal-- to put Wall street in all 3 branches. One does it by working for republicans the other bald one does it by turning democrats into may as well be republicans, who dont shape the debate, and are rewarded by media blow jobs by adam nagourney.
To me they are the perfect couple
June 10th, 2006 at 10:40 pmThe larger point, and it's really quite scary when ya think about it, is that there are people, a lot of people, who actually agree with Coulter. Not with just her M.O. (attack! attack! attack!), but also with her narrow, distorted message. To me that's just plain creepy. Maybe the aliens are taking over, not the illegals, but the ones who programmed Coulter, O'Reilly, Limbaugh, Hannity,etc., into becoming the bilious spewing, black-hearted, zombies they are. Talk about a horror movie begging to be made. The pitch would be: It's like 1984 meets Dawn of the Dead meets Duck Soup with direction by the CEOs of Exxon and Halliburton from a script by Michael Crichton and Attila the Hun. Call it, 'Passion of the Undead.'
June 10th, 2006 at 10:42 pmHmmm the reason the dixie chicks can’t sell all of their seats is not because no one likes them.
Comment by BABS — June 10, 2006 @ 10:30 pm
What are you guys talking about?
The Dixie Chicks are the hottest thing around. Their latest album, (which bashes bush on the head), is at NUMBER 1.
I don't think there is anything better than number 1.
June 10th, 2006 at 10:42 pmBut I loved your comment Babs.
June 10th, 2006 at 10:43 pmFlavius
June 10th, 2006 at 11:01 pmCalling someone's reasonable request to start ignoring an ignorant imbecile like Coulter "nonchalance" is disingenuous at best. Do you work for her P.R. firm or what?
Matalin and Carville stand for absolutely nothing but making money. If they actually believed anything they say, they couldn't be married to each other. I am so sick of hearing from the two of them.
June 10th, 2006 at 11:19 pm#208, sangha,
June 11th, 2006 at 12:10 amThanks for bringing that ad up. I even saw it in the on-line version of the supposedly liberal "NY Times."
Purvis.
Look, of course we're not going to buy her book. What did you think if Ken didn't tell everyone to not buy it we'd all be out at barnesandnoble.com snatching them up?
Not likely.
But what is more likely you're boycott of the book will turn into boycotting stores, like the reich wing did to the sweet little Dixie Chix, and then we really ARE no better than them. Because thats trying to damage Coulter personally for speaking her mind, something that no one in this country should ever be about.
Patrick Henry said free speech wasn't free if there was fear of retribution. How can you claim to protect free speech when your goal is to silence anothers?
What happened in this country to the old saying, I may not like what you're saying, but I'll fight and die alongside you protecting your right to say it?
Free speech is not just for the speech you agree with. Even if your neighbors free speech makes your blood run cold, you must believe they have a right to say it.
See, you guys get all worked up about a few words I say in here, or Ann Coulter prints in a book, and people want to ban me, and boycott Coulter, and what you fail to realize is these are just "words". What you propose is "action".
There is a huge difference. Thats why they taught you in kindergarten that little saying, 'sticks and stones will break my bones but names will never hurt me'.
If Coulter comes at you with words, then you need to give it right back to her, with words. Not boycotts, media bans or pies in the face, but words. Say what you think. Tell her like it is. Let her know. But actions like boycotts are not in the spirit of free speech, and therefore have no place in any group calling themselves liberal.
So instead of worrying about a few words from Ann Coulter, or me, and letting them push your buttons like some of you think they were doing to me, but instead you go out and ban books, (Might as well burn them), just learn to give them exactly what they give us, words. Write a book. Post in a blog. Write your Congressmen. Start a website. Write letters. And vote.
At least thats how its supposed to work, ain't it?
In the words of a true holy man, Lucius Lactantius,
verbis melius quam verberibus res agenda est
"It is better to employ words than blows."
June 11th, 2006 at 12:31 amAnd BTW Purvis, using the word "disingenuous" cost us the last election.
I'd loose it.
Next time just call me a liar.
June 11th, 2006 at 12:33 amGood comments everyone on Matalin helping Coulter > those 2 witches could be sisters or should I say brothers > lol.
June 11th, 2006 at 12:44 amThe democrats again missed a golden opportunity here to associate ann coulter with bush and the rnc. Hell, the dems have been given so many chances by saying something like this: "Ann Coulter, Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, SPEAK FOR the president and the republican party. Comments like hers are shameful and are hurtful to those she directed her comments too, and words like all of them spew do more to tear America apart at a time when we all need each other."
June 11th, 2006 at 1:35 amForce the damn republicans to comment on that statement and maybe they would distance themselves from those hateful and mean spirited folks....Then if the dems all made a concerted effort to say such as this, then we could sit back and watch the fight on the right.... I do thank you....
I just saw Ann on Fox and the interviewer wasn't too easy on her.
He wasn't real hard on her either, but it seemed like he wanted to distance himself from her comments.
She's gonna be getting a lot more of that over the coming weeks.
June 11th, 2006 at 1:47 amWhat is so hilarious, is here is its kinda like Ann Coutler broke down with this latest attack.
Here she is, crying about the fact the left has more of these people who've lost someone than the right does. Thats pretty much all her argument is. She's upset, because like she just said on Fox, she doesn't like it when the left puts up these spokespeople you can't criticize, because of some personal tragedy.
She of course ignores the fact that the right does it too.
She is upset, because those people who lost people in 911 and the war in Iraq, mostly turned left instead of right.
Thats whats got her so upset.
And thats not our fault Ann.
June 11th, 2006 at 1:54 amOn the House floor Thursday, Democratic Congressman Rahm Emmanuel threw down the gauntlet and challenged his GOP colleagues to repudiate the bilious words of Ann Coulter. But as should be clear by now, they simply can't. Whether the issue concerns gay Americans, 9/11, abortion, judicial appointments or political corruption, a seamless continuum of hate runs from today's governing conservatism through to its most extreme proponents. And that means the Congressional GOP differs only in degree - not in kind - from the cartoonish and sometimes criminal likes of Ann Coulter, Fred Phelps or Eric Rudolph.
For the full story, see:
June 11th, 2006 at 1:55 am"Ann Coulter and Conservatism's Continuum of Hate"
June 11th, 2006 at 1:56 am
Well, now that it's late and this thread has slowed to a crawl, I thought I'd throw out the following completely useless observation:
Today's (or is it now yesterday's) most intriguing Think Progress participant on this thread, I award to Ken Daves. His first post was at 11:31am and then he went away (to lunch maybe) until 1:59pm. At that time he reappeared and then remained on this thread fairly constantly until he gave up and left us after his 8:58pm post (a full day's work I would conjecture). In that period of time he left us with some 38 (give or take) posts, most of which were spent trying to convince the various posters not to waste their time on this particular thread. Apparently his advice didn't apply to himself. Or, perhaps he was trying to outdo Santos for most posts on one thread.
G'night all.
June 11th, 2006 at 2:28 am# 238 Willy:
I agree with you.
June 11th, 2006 at 2:34 amKen Daves bored the sh!t out of me.
.
You can thank what you want about Ward Churchhill's comments, but I know I would never have worked in any kind of corporate fascist institution like the World Trade Center. I'm not saying anything against any particular victim of 9/11, but that is a fact with me.
The Military/Industrial/Governmental complex exists folks and it is destroying our planet.
I would encourage my fellow liberals to come to my muy thai kickboxing gym, because the folk songs and meditation have not been working very well. We need more Che Guevaras and less Ghandis at this point.
June 11th, 2006 at 2:35 amCoulter is the bony bottom of social discourse. No surprise if she speaks from the far end of her ass.
June 11th, 2006 at 5:07 am#88 Congratulations, Zookeeper, to you, and Zoo JR. Way to go ! Any college plans? Or is it a head on plunge into the bracing waters of "The Real World"? Not the MTV kind. ;) Whichever way he goes, with you behind him, he can't lose!
Back OT- The curious compilation of DNA that calls itself Ann Coulter seems to have overlooked the blatant exploitation of those it aligns itself with, of the 9/11/01 tragedy. Remember GWB, standing on the remains of the 9/11 victims, with his 'Bull-Sh*t' horn blaring, making promises that he has not kept. He is the hand's down, no contest CHAMPION of using the 9/11 tragedy for political advantage. But those "9/11 Widows"? Shame onTHEM? Umm, no. And she had the gall to try to claim that she wasn't talking about 'THOSE' 9/11 Widows, she was talking about a whole different bunch of...'Merry Widows'. My pasty, white ASS she was!!! Sorry, brillo pads, anyone?
June 11th, 2006 at 5:34 amOh the IRONY
When we question the motives for war. We are denounced as unpatrotic.
June 11th, 2006 at 6:56 amWhen we question the competence, planning we ae denounced as enboldening the terrorist
When we point out corruption and incompetence, we are hurting the troops
[...] I’m glad to know that Ann Coulter speaks for Republicans not only in the things that she says, but evidently the way she says them, too. [...]
June 11th, 2006 at 7:13 amThe Right understands that the best defense is a good offense. It matters little how outrageous their lies are. What matters is that they keep us on the defense. They keep us reacting to them and too busy to get on with our own agenda. It's an effective strategy. One can only hope that their low road leads to a swamp.
June 11th, 2006 at 7:55 amman you guys suck you really want to tell a man to censor his wife you sexist bigots!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
June 11th, 2006 at 7:55 amIf you look at one of Ken's last comments, you'll see that he linked to what I consider to be a VERY intriguing article on Dennis Kucinich's exposure of U.S. sponsored death squads in Iraq. DK cites plenty of evidence in the popular media, and I think Ken's last post perhaps helps to explain his purpose here. Although I can't say that I agree with Ken's stance on AC and speaking out, I must say that I very much appreciate his unique contribution, an intriguing argument, and perhaps more importantly, his passion for Kucinich and this most timely issue.
June 11th, 2006 at 8:47 amAnn Coulter and Mary Marlin speak quite elegantly for the Conservative, far right Religious groups.
Do the voters of the Republican Party think there agenda has been hijacked?
Do the soccer moms who elected George, really feel Ann and Mary speak for them and talk to their needs?
Do Conservatives feel spending is on track?
Perhaps it is time Democrats start courting these disgruntled members for their votes.
June 11th, 2006 at 8:55 amMost of these comments should be duplicated in e-mails to the various news outlets that gave this obviously mentally ill woman free airtime.
I worte tthat there is probably nothing better for the "Librul" cause than to have hate-mongers like Coulter on the air every day and night. But it is not good for the country. I asked them if they had any idea the amount of hatred and anger they foment when they put these outlandish people on the air.
I also asked them if a new American civil war would be good for ratings.
Because that is exactly where we are headed and the news media will be largely to blame.
June 11th, 2006 at 8:57 amWhat has all the liberails upset is the fact Ann Coutler hit a "Home Run". No one has disproved her main point! These women are millionaire and they are using their fame and in turn being used. And they love every freaking minute of it. Talk shows, endorsements, the greiving widow who is now and expert on foriegn policy. Ms. Coutler is right on the money and it "Just makes you Mad as Hell". And your going to take it............
June 11th, 2006 at 9:30 amThe "larger point" is that anyone who questions this administration is subject to personal attack. Imus was weak and feeble in his handling of Matalin. That's one reason I'm not a fan of his.
June 11th, 2006 at 9:46 amWhat is a HARPIE
June 11th, 2006 at 9:48 am“It is better to employ words than blows.â€
Comment by CLUBBER WORFEUS — June 11, 2006 @ 12:31 am
I liked what you said. I'm with you.
When someone flings words at you - it is your personal choice as to what you will do with them. You can let them hurt you, you can laugh at them, you can ignore them, etc. It's 100% your call.
However, when someone hits (shoots, stabs, etc.) you, you have no choice in the consequences (physical pain or worse)..
As long as people resort to words rather than weapons, we should be happy. Because that allows us the freedom to decide how we are impacted.
Censorship is what started Hitler's reign. A good bit of history to remember when we start talking about boycotts or being silent to those who we oppose..
June 11th, 2006 at 10:52 amMischaracterization is always an effective way to win an argument.
Willy: " In that period of time he left us with some 38 (give or take) posts, most of which were spent trying to convince the various posters not to waste their time on this particular thread."
It obviously was not the thread, but the tone of most of the conversation by certain individuals that I felt was feeding into right's hand. People I have mentioned ahead of this.
People hate having the obvious pointed out to them; so they change things so they can be right.
I never said this thread was a waste of time. I did, however, feel that many of the responses were "designed" to continue the bile, to get us to be upset, to stir up the controversy.
When I say ignore them, I mean I think it's a good idea to comment and say that they don't matter. Or that they are assholes, and then let them prove it for themselves. If they're the only ones keeping this going, keeping the bile flowing, then we get to characterize them as such, and they do it to themselves.
I wonder how many "democrats" in here are really here to help project the image we will be laden with come election time. You know: whiny, petty, and best of all, divisive.
Yes, people like Willy will ensure that we are kept off the important topics.
June 11th, 2006 at 10:53 amIt's important to keep an eye on these people. They represent the very worst in human nature. I have no problem drawing similarities between Coulter , Matalin and Nazis.
Come on. Anne "I have no use for the First Amendment" Coulter? Ignore her at your own risk.
First comes the dehumanizing rhetoric. They've already accomplished the coup. Then comes the purge.
They have their feet firmly planted on that path.
How anyone can belong to a party that not only tolerates them, but embraces them is beyond me.
The left has no parallel voices.
As for all of us, we deserve what we allow.
Clemsy
June 11th, 2006 at 11:10 amOh, 266. A harpy is a nightmare image out of Greek Mythology. They are sent by the gods to torment those who commit horrible crimes.
Do we deserve their torment? Have we sinned so egregiously?
By allowing America to degenerate into what it's become, yes.
June 11th, 2006 at 11:17 amMatalin is a hag who makes me question James Carville too. How can he stand to live with someone like that? I don't understand how two people with such passion for opposite sides of politics, when both of their lives revolve around politics....how do they stay together? One of them has got to be faking.
June 11th, 2006 at 11:19 amPost 272 > James Carville fell in love with Mary Matalin and her views won out in their marriage! James is just a former shell of himself now > he NO longer helps Democrats and has fallen for the GOP "Dark Side"! He is not a fake, but just someone who fell for Mary the shrew!
June 11th, 2006 at 11:35 amWhen I say ignore them, I mean I think it’s a good idea to comment and say that they don’t matter. Or that they are assholes,
Comment by Ken Daves — June 11, 2006 @ 10:53 am
Oh ok Ken. I see. You are not telling me not to comment, you merely want to "approve" my comments, or apparently even dictate them.
Please send me a forwarding email address so I can send my comments to you for pre-screening and approval.
What was the address again? joegoebbels@reichstag.com ?
June 11th, 2006 at 12:08 pmIt obviously was not the thread, but the tone of most of the conversation by certain individuals that I felt was feeding into right’s hand.
Comment by Ken Daves — June 11, 2006 @ 10:53 am
Yea, your method of just 'being above the frey' worked so well in 00 and 04.
Maybe you should run for President too.
I am sure you could loose just as good as the rest.
June 11th, 2006 at 12:11 pmDahr Jamail puts it best:
"Once a damaging, and most likely delayed, story hits the Western corporate media consciousness, concurrent stories may be released that distract the audience or dilute the potency of the main story."
So when you see an anus coulter or moron matalin performing their assigned duties, and the media is the enemy, it should make us all think: What is it they DON'T want us talking about.
See the story on informationclearinghouse.com
June 11th, 2006 at 12:14 pm"The Shreiking left is panicked because they no longer have a complete monopoly on the distribution of information."
This is what they do. I guess it doesn't matter what the truth is, they will say what they want to say.
Either we lend them credibility by responding to EVERY attack, no matter how useless we become as a result, or we learn to react to their actually very simple and transparent game plan.
Delay, distract, ...
People like Worfeus are operatives. Witting or not.
And and mighty aphrodite, whom I generally ignore, is one of the accomplices.
Worfeus, you are a poser.
June 11th, 2006 at 12:18 pmWorfeus, what I meant to say is that you are exactly the "shreiking left", at least as you portray yourself. This is in spite of your oh-so-macho (like Ben Stiller in Mystery Men) football analogies.
Gosh, you're tough. I wince in pain everytime I see your missives. (not)
June 11th, 2006 at 12:21 pmMan I wish I could convince you to join the right.
And take every milktoast democrat like you, with you.
You could take the Republican party back a decade with your hometeam sabotage.
(And then we wouldn't have to hear you ball)
June 11th, 2006 at 12:28 pmHey Dick:
"Just where were the liberal shriekers when U of Colorado professor said tha ALL the victims of 911 were “little Eichmansâ€"
They were distancing themselves from the incendiary Prof. Churchill and condemning his words.
But please, remain in your faith based world of twisted thinking. You are becoming irrelevant. And your 'shrieking left' this and 'whiny leftist' that itself sounds desperate and, in all honesty, is boring.
June 11th, 2006 at 12:30 pmWorfeus = liar.
June 11th, 2006 at 12:30 pmYou are a study in right-wing tactics, worf.
Don't address the issues I raise, merely name-call and lie.
June 11th, 2006 at 12:31 pmWorfeus, you are a poser.
Comment by Ken Daves — June 11, 2006 @ 12:18 pm
Really?
I'm not the one in here pretending to be a liberal.
June 11th, 2006 at 12:34 pmKen Daves:
I do agree with you that there are more important issues than Ann Coulter and Mary Matalin. But, what I disagree with your about is your methodology for trying to get people off of this thread. Being a progressive, I believe everyone should be allowed to do whatever they like (including you) as long as they don't infringe on other's rights. I'm merely making fun of you (as I would of Coulter and Matalin, if I were so inclined). You seem quite obsessed with getting people off of this topic and onto others you consider more worthwhile. It's your "know-it-all" attitude and the fact that you seem to be trying to control people that I think is over the line. You're free to do whatever you want, but it's what I perceive as your heavy handedness that seems to me to be unwanted and unnecessary.
Have a good day posting!
June 11th, 2006 at 12:42 pmWorfeus = liar.
Comment by Ken Babies June 11, 2006 @ 12:30 pm
Really Ken?
Pray tell do elaborate.
Show us ONE lie that I've said in this entire thread.
Just one.
June 11th, 2006 at 12:43 pmYou are a study in right-wing tactics, worf.
Comment by Ken Babies — June 11, 2006 @ 12:31 pm
Really?
Well maybe you should study harder.
June 11th, 2006 at 12:46 pmI also said 'condemned'. Churchill is not a spokesmen for the political left. He'd laugh in your face at the very thought. Holding him up as some kind of lefty-Coulter is absurd and desperate.
You didn't even know his name and by bringing him up at all shows you have no idea who he is or what he stands for or who he speaks for.
June 11th, 2006 at 12:59 pmI guess its Friday today.
Because everyone in here is eating Red Herring.
Ann Coulter is an unofficial spokeman for the Christian Conservative Right and a number one best selling author for the same demograph.
Ward Churchill on the other hand has NO official, or unoffical role with the left.
NONE.
He's a college professor, speaking his own views, with very few people paying attention to him.
There is absoluely no point to comparing the two, other than to distract from Coulter putting her foot in her big fat mouth.
June 11th, 2006 at 1:02 pmHey Ken?
How's it coming searching through my posts looking for the "LIES" you accused me of?
You must have some good stuff by now, right?
Why don't you share your findings with the rest of the class? I'd love to see them.
You do have some to back up your calling me a liar, right?
June 11th, 2006 at 1:06 pmYou do have some to back up your calling me a liar, right?
Comment by CLUBBER WORFEUS — June 11, 2006 @ 1:06 pm
Hopefully he'll shut up now? I had to scroll through a lot to skip his rants. I don't think he's a liberal Worf.
You a liar? ha ha ha ha That's seriously grasping at straws...
So Ann's book is called 'Godless'... is it an auto-biography?
June 11th, 2006 at 1:13 pmOh, I get it. Dick's a troll.
Please don't feed the troll. It's such a waste of time.
June 11th, 2006 at 1:23 pmPlease don’t feed the troll. It’s such a waste of time.
Comment by Clemsy — June 11, 2006 @ 1:23 pm
Enough already with the whining.
Damn its like 300 Joe Liebermans in here.
June 11th, 2006 at 1:27 pm300 Joe Liebermans in here.
Comment by CLUBBER WORFEUS
Eww, bye.
June 11th, 2006 at 1:28 pmThe correct phrase is "stock in trade," not "stock and trade."
June 11th, 2006 at 1:32 pmI feel for James, how could he explain that hatred to his children.....
June 11th, 2006 at 1:33 pmA Dickface, I didn't give a crap about what Anita Hill said about Thomas's inappropriate comment.
I just didn't see how that was an issue.
And B.
These women BLEW Clinton.
Just how exactly pray tell, does one "rape" a full grown women into giving them a bj?
Not without finding their member bitten off at the stem?
Just curious?
June 11th, 2006 at 1:37 pmRe: #292. see 293. You see, you can't help yourself, can you?
June 11th, 2006 at 1:39 pmAnd you know, I'm curious DickFace.
After you guys get done in here defending the honor of your headmistress, and you go back to her "private chat room" and regale in your tales of heroisim in defending the indefensible, does she give you guys a virtual, pat on the head, and say "good doggy"?
Just wondering.
June 11th, 2006 at 1:42 pmNo, you're merely aptly named.
June 11th, 2006 at 1:43 pmHuh, now Matalin is jumping in on the Coulter thing; what the hell is she after?
June 11th, 2006 at 1:45 pmSure slappy. Sure.
June 11th, 2006 at 1:56 pmWho cares. When Ann Coulters' Paris Hilton tape comes out then maybe she will deserve attention. Until then, who cares!! She's nothing more than a cheerleader. And lol at the dumb Matlin bitch that thinks what Coulter said is some sort of revelation.
June 11th, 2006 at 1:57 pmAnd by the way, my asking him one time to show where I lied, something he has been curiously unable to do, does not constitute a constant “youre a liar††no Im not†scenario.
But at least you chose the correct name for yourself.
Dickface.
June 11th, 2006 at 1:58 pmAgreed.
June 11th, 2006 at 2:00 pmYour momma.
June 11th, 2006 at 2:03 pmThe funny thing here is that ultimately, Coulter is just crying. Complaing. Whining.
She is whining because more people who’ve lost someone in 911 or the Iraq war, speak out for the left, instead of the right.
It drives her crazy that they do not support the President, so in the tradition of the slimey right, she's attacking the messenger instead of the message.
Cause God knows that they can't attack the message.
Or is anyone in here dumb enough to believe that if the widows were speaking out in FAVOR of Bush and the war, that she wouldn’t be tauting them as all American star spangled heroes?
June 11th, 2006 at 2:08 pmI think Coulter and Matalin should call up Karen Hughes and take it on the road. Of course, I think Coulter is laughing all the way to the bank. Matalin and Hughes are true believers in and defenders of the Bush debacle. The only thing worse than listening to these three would be being them. Shudder.
June 11th, 2006 at 2:23 pmgee real intellegent political discourse you guys are beginning to sound like ann C or bill o reilly !work with the facts this administration is so far over the line and the democrats are with few exceptions are no where ! next time I vote republicrat
June 11th, 2006 at 2:32 pmgod bless us
June 11th, 2006 at 2:34 pm#325 from worfeus.
yes, I did. see post 292.
I pegged you, and challenged you to do the same with me. You can't because I don't lie.
In fact, reading post 292 will prove that you lied in post 325.
If you wish to uncover people like worfeus and unbelievable, just ask yourself what their motivation may be.
I will agree with one thing: coulter should not be given space in a liberal blog. Maybe Judd should consider before posting crap like this so that people, I mean operatives, do not have so much room to zoom.
Um, worf, your pants are on fire.
June 11th, 2006 at 2:39 pmLogic escapes worf...
"We are just responding “in kindâ€. "
Either you think coulter is crazy or you don't and if you respond in kind, then you respond reasonably because that's what she's done, or you become her.
That is the essence of my argument here. The more I read, the more I see who is deliberately unconstructive.
Worf.
June 11th, 2006 at 2:42 pmEveryone should read 292 before agreeing with worf. Danger lurks.
I ignore some of the crap said about me, and funny, but those posts go nowhere.
I'm here to shine a little light on operatives who claim to be on the liberal side, but who do nothing but attack and undermine the liberal credibility by posing.
And lying.
June 11th, 2006 at 2:44 pmfigure it out ,Stirring up the most ignorant among us is the preferred method of this bunch.this administarations polls are down to 30percent ,they were probably never elected !There supporters are waiting for a war in the mid east so J C can can return and they float up to heaven every one and you want to bother refuting them logically? GOOD LUCK
June 11th, 2006 at 2:47 pmWorf? Still there? Or are you licking your wounds?
Did you ever actually play football, or are you posing there too?
June 11th, 2006 at 2:49 pmsee 292 regarding worf. This is who he really is.
June 11th, 2006 at 2:53 pmWhile switching through the cable news shows last night I saw her:
Ann Coulter, the hick-ass twit who calls herself a constitutional
expert. The first thing that grabs your immediate attention when this
reptile-like slut is on camera is her BEAK-like nose that you know
would be just great for plowing potato fields in Maine. Then, of
course, you notice her uneven beady eyes attached to her rather long
skeleton-like face that contains two DUMBO-like ears. Covering this
collection of genetically engineered pimpled covered flesh encased in
enormous amounts of TV makeup is her most striking feature-- her
bleach-blond mop that tries to hide the plainness that mother nature
has given to this slime-faced right-wing political whore.
It is her rodent-like mouth, however, that really sets this two-bit
collection of human sludge apart from others. While shaped like a
mutated asshole, it is constantly opening and closing, like those play
false teeth that you wind up and let chatter. In Ann's case the
chatter never stops as her motor mouth is in constant motion as it
spews forth verbal-shit like diarrhea from a farting asshole.
Ann is so in love with her motor mouth that she has each and every
appearance video recoded so she can go home and spend countless hours
masturbating to her words and image which to her is the best sex she
ever had.
In my opinion this right-wing slut was an unwanted child, perhaps the
June 11th, 2006 at 2:55 pmresult of a massive human-animal gangbang, who probably had numerous
things shoved up every opening in her skanky. puss festering body as
a girl which is why she is such a phoney, fart-faced, repulsive BIMBO.
See xona, while fun to read, provides the right with exactly what they need. Pointless anger. Tit for tat I guess, but what does it achieve? You get to be like them.
Like lurker trying to nail me, without a response it goes nowhere. (sticks and stones...)
I would love to see coulter go nowhere. I would love to see matalin go nowhere.
June 11th, 2006 at 2:59 pmAnd lying.
Comment by Ken Babies — June 11, 2006 @ 2:44 pm
Before you run your big fat mouth troll boy, you might want to muse back to post number 285, where I challenged you, no DARED you, to show ONE lie that I've told.
Just one.
But you couldn't, could you?
So instead of talking about licking supposed wounds that a milktoast pantywaist like you supposedly inflicted, why don't you SHOW us where I lied?
I know why.
June 11th, 2006 at 3:01 pmCoulter crying all the way to the bank? She can't find her voting precinct. She can't find her church. Good luck with a bank.
June 11th, 2006 at 3:05 pmjournalists phone records according to that ultra leftist news outfit ABC are being confiscated with natnal security letters diebold has eliminated hanging chads and a cabal of oil execs are waging a wart of liberation in the middle east,goggle is the only search engine who hasnt surrendered the internet records of millions of americans and Q west the only phone company who is refusing to allow its customers to be bugged and as near as I can tell we are here discussing the ideas of an idiot hate mongering fascist who spews hate just to play on the emotionalism of the least educated least affluent among the population
June 11th, 2006 at 3:06 pmIn case you didn't notice freeman, this thread is about Ann Coulter.
See you actually ought to "read the title" before commenting.
Keeps you from looking stupid, you know?
June 11th, 2006 at 3:07 pmCan you not interpret anything you read? See post 292.
I expose you for who you are there. Address that, then we can talk. In the meantime, everyone look to see who worfeus really is.
You are lying now, because you refuse to address how I used your own words IN CONTEXT to show who you are.
So typical of the right. When they are exposed, they attack. Usually unable to provide logic.
You lie everytime you call yourself a liberal.
And Al Gore, please. You denegrate him at the same time you say he's the best the left has. UGH!
That alone shows your contempt for those you seek to influence and control, and bring down to your level.
Have a conversation with xona, that won't stress your little brain.
BTW, "milquetoast". Hooked on phonics is not always effective, though for some it's all you can hope for.
June 11th, 2006 at 3:09 pmIn my post 292, where I expose you, I offer you a challenge.
Where is YOUR response?
I've long since dressed you down and shown you for the instigator you are.
Do you receive royalties from coulter to help sell her crap? If not, who on that side keeps you going?
June 11th, 2006 at 3:11 pmGee Ken.
Post 292 is by some right wing troll calling himself DICKFACE.
Wonder why you would keep referring to that one?
Odd, huh?
June 11th, 2006 at 3:12 pmYou are lying now, because you refuse to address how I used your own words IN CONTEXT to show who you are.
Comment by DICKFAC....er I mean Ken Daves — June 11, 2006 @ 3:09 pm
How YOU used my own words?
Hmmm..
Post 292 is signed DICKFACE...
Hmmm.....
June 11th, 2006 at 3:14 pmworf, you lie about freeman. He did address coulter. You refuse to address what has been pointed out about you.
For myself, I regret the strident nature of my initial response, as it does sound bossy, even to me.
The rest was merely a response to liars like you.
Go find your own kind on the FOX website, please, and let reasonability reign here.
Everyone who wants to side with worf, read post #292. Worf can't address the truth, so he spews lies instead.
He mischaracterizes freeman as he has me in order to keep his shit going.
He is a liar.
June 11th, 2006 at 3:14 pmthese monsters lose no sleepover the deaths of 100's of 1000's of human beings! do you think you will reason with that?Dont even bother replying to the garbage that the probably paid fascists here post . they have no heart and they are un american .its just more propaganda like the gay marriage ban ,which had no chance of passing but helps rally the base just like ann coulters ugly vomit .
June 11th, 2006 at 3:16 pmworf, who is getting desperate now, says #292 is by dickface, probably to keep everyone from seeing who he really is.
post 292 is by me. It exposes worf.
People like that need to be exposed.
Notice, he lies constantly.
June 11th, 2006 at 3:17 pmhe also does not respond to MY challenge.
Reading comprehension may not be his problem as his obfuscation seems deliberate.
Post 292, by Ken Daves, that's me, exposes this shill.
June 11th, 2006 at 3:19 pmoh gee my feeling are hurt i thought we were just here to act adolecent and hurlexplatives but i guess that passes as political commentary just ignorer the fascist trolls their just here to get stupid and waste your time
June 11th, 2006 at 3:20 pmworf, desperation becomes you. It's actually making me giddy.
You refuse to address what was said, so I reposted it for you.
Did you get that one?
June 11th, 2006 at 3:24 pmOh and by the way Mavis Beacon, thanks for providing us with the "FRENCH" spelling of the word Milk Toast.
The eponym you are referring to of a fictional cartoon character name Caspar Milquetoast, while fitting to describe you, was not my reference.
I used the American spelling, implying you are more like a bland, tasteless and unsavory dish.
Next time you wish to impress us with your amazing grasp of the English language, you might want to not do it in French.
June 11th, 2006 at 3:25 pmNo, that is the way it is spelled. Get to my post where I expose you.
Why not address that? Afraid of something?
I notice whenever worfeus gets in trouble, like now, unbelievable seems to appear.
June 11th, 2006 at 3:26 pm371 is a repost of 292.
Don't know how we can show different posting numbers, so there it is again.
Or can you just not see yourself for who you are?
June 11th, 2006 at 3:28 pmlearn some manners there is little to discuss on the issue of ugly ( the rights specialty ) I was on ABC,s blogspot yesterday and the hate was terrifying on the issue of coulter and entirely from the religious right but on the tracking of journalists you have people practically advocating armed revolution and all in all agood bit more radicalthan i see here and thats main stream better sort this out before the country has a civil war then it wont be expletives being hurled
June 11th, 2006 at 3:28 pmWhat desperation dimwit?
I posted post number 292 for all to see.
I don't see any posts there with your name on them in the 292 slot.
I DO see a post from DICKFACE there, which I just posted.
June 11th, 2006 at 3:28 pmLoathsome, but masterful. Was Imus actually too slow to rebut this rubbish or is he too dependent on people like Matalin to try?
June 11th, 2006 at 3:31 pmLoathsome, but masterful. Was Imus actually too slow to rebut this rubbish or is he too dependent on people like Matalin to try?
June 11th, 2006 at 3:31 pmCould it be that Worfeus is right again, and our MILK TOAST friend, Ken Knaves is really DICKFACE as well?
Could it be he's too hillbilly stupid to realize that he signed post 292 with his alter ego handle and now is too stupid to see it?
Things that make you say, hmmmmmmm
June 11th, 2006 at 3:31 pmDear Dick - Exposing this bunch of hypocrites is fun, isn't it?? They railed against a Supreme they hate for running off the liberal "plantation" and embraced a likable moderate Demi/CAN President with the moral compass of Don Juan. They are DISGUSTED by the barbs of a blonde attorn-o-pundit and thrilled with the treachery of Roaring Al Gore. They register disgust at anything corporate, and embrace special interest thugs of the public-employee unions and affiliates of the mobbish Teamsters and AFL-CIO. If someone is wealthy, they assume thievery. They fail to mention the charities and philanthropy of the vulgar rich. They automatically assume "evil" if the United States backs a position and conveniently grant the widest path of understanding to all things not-American. They are "one-worlders" who profess a belief in the fable of Utopia, but seek POWER for the implementation of socialism. And that's the crux. POWER to impose equal-opportunity misery universally....
Happy Sunday!
June 11th, 2006 at 3:31 pmThis is a media frenzy by the right. Do you think for a moment they wouldn't plant shills on sites like this to create a false impression of your distaste and disdain for coulter and her ilk?
They want to keep this going, and all I'm doing is showing them for who they are.
Who cares about coulter and matalin? They are as worthless as they appear to be. They are not the issue.
June 11th, 2006 at 3:31 pmtell the dems this may turn out to be the last chance they get to keep there slush funds
June 11th, 2006 at 3:31 pmOkay worf, get to post 371. Everyone see who's trying to get you to beat up on coulter to help her sell her books.
You are exposed. And it ain't much to look at.
Your desperation is showing.
June 11th, 2006 at 3:33 pmWho cares about coulter and matalin?
Comment by Ken "DICKFACE" Daves — June 11, 2006 @ 3:31 pm
Well YOU apparently do.
You've spent the last 2 days in a thread DEDICTATED to them, trying to convince everyone not to talk about them.
June 11th, 2006 at 3:34 pmagreed the issue is likely to be civil war
June 11th, 2006 at 3:34 pmpost 371 exposes worf. Address THAT why don't you?
Liar.
June 11th, 2006 at 3:35 pmor a fascist dictator
June 11th, 2006 at 3:35 pmOkay worf, get to post 371
Comment by Ken "DICKFACE" Daves — June 11, 2006 @ 3:33 pm
371???
What happened to Post 292???
You know, the one you claimed would "expose me" for all to see?
The one you said YOU WROTE, but is signed DICKHEAD?
You remember that one, right slappy?
June 11th, 2006 at 3:36 pmNo, I've spent two days on this thread trying to find and expose the shills.
Like you.
Post 371, if you please.
I know it must be hard to see yourself for who you are, but read it and then try to come up with a reasonable rebuttal.
You challenged me, and I met the challenge. I challenged you and you show your desperation by lying and hiding.
Post 371. worf, the operative, exposed.
PS...I notice that you spend very little time on ann coulter or mary matalin. The posts of yours that I use against you are self-explanatory.
You are not who you claim to be. I am ONLY who I claim to be.
June 11th, 2006 at 3:38 pmpost 371 exposes worf. Address THAT why don’t you?
Liar.
Comment by Ken "DICKHEAD" Daves — June 11, 2006 @ 3:35 pm
Now now. Remember, you're supposed to be acting "NonChalant".
:|
June 11th, 2006 at 3:38 pmCoulter and other administration shills attack the 9-11 widows because the 9-11 widows are prying into what Bush did to enable the attacks, and make sure that they happened.
That's right, high treason on the part of team Cheney. That's what's making these thugs squirm. Many millions of Americans now know that Bush was in on the 9-11 plot, and that the 9-11 Commission was a cover up of staggering proportions.
Not one word in that report addresses the Pakistani intelligence service (ISI) who FUNDED the attacks. The head of ISI, Mahmoud Ahmed sent $100,000 to the alleged "lead hijacker" Mohamed Atta before the attacks. The ISI chief was coordinating with Bush officials before during and after the attacks. When Indian intelligence exposed his role, one month later, he immediately resigned.
Everything and everyone who tries to get to the bottom of these acts of high treason is demonized and vilified -- including the widows, who actually pushed to create the 9-11 commission, only to have it staffed by insiders with so many conflicts of interest and administration ties, that nothing of note was exposed.
More at:
June 11th, 2006 at 3:39 pmhttp://crimesofthestate.blogspot.com/
Post 371, you scared little liar.
Worf is exposed.
Tough guy, when it's easy. Lying does not become anyone. Least of all shits like worf.
Worf is a shill.
June 11th, 2006 at 3:39 pmAgain, he lies and hides rather than admitting he is exposed.
"Non-chalant" is your term, and someone else called you on that. Remember?
Post 371, please. And respond to my challenge you dickless bastard.
June 11th, 2006 at 3:41 pmBTW Einstein, post 371 is by Unbelievable, who is confirming that the OTHER post you have been ranting for everyone to read that would magically "expose me", post number 292, which you claim YOU wrote, was actually written by DICKHEAD.
Is that it, or do you have another foot you want to put in your mouth?
June 11th, 2006 at 3:42 pmI suspect you may all be here to be disruptive .No matter tell your masters the population and the world see thru their disquise and I for one would rather raise my kids in a peaceful enviorment where we arent stringing one another up but it may turn out to be entirely their choice ,war co seems to be have counted on a general complacency but that willend if they spy on the average citizen and begin to track the press .From the soundsof it on a mainstream blog like ABC they havent much time
June 11th, 2006 at 3:42 pmPost 371, please. And respond to my challenge you dickless bastard.
Comment by Ken "DICKHEAD" Daves — June 11, 2006 @ 3:41 pm
Steady slappy, or you'll blow a gasket.
June 11th, 2006 at 3:44 pmIf you can't wrap your mind around post 292, which I still show as my signature, then look for my post signed "Ken Daves" at 106pm.
That is where you are exposed. Liar.
June 11th, 2006 at 3:45 pmI am here for one reason freeman.
To bash Coulter.
But don't think for two seconds I won't take time out to bash a little weasal like Ken Dickhead, who is in here trying to get everyone to NOT comment on Coulter.
Why?
Cause I'm havin a good time.
June 11th, 2006 at 3:47 pmKnow any good right wing blog sites ?It would be an interesting switch to try reason with the few remaining supporters of bush
June 11th, 2006 at 3:48 pm291
Hey Ken?
How’s it coming searching through my posts looking for the “LIES†you accused me of?
You must have some good stuff by now, right?
Why don’t you share your findings with the rest of the class? I’d love to see them.
You do have some to back up your calling me a liar, right?
Comment by CLUBBER WORFEUS — June 11, 2006 @ 1:06 pm
June 11th, 2006 at 3:49 pmcoulter, like worfeus, should be ignored.
Do not take the MSM bait. What possible other reason could there be for them to cover her than to get a response out of us? And what is worfeus trying to do?
What I have done is gotten this useless flab of flesh off topic and helped him to expose himself as the shill he is.
Most people here know they are not worth the time or effort to rebutt.
Worf, still afraid of my post? And re-post and re-post?
You see, I don't resond (til now) to your labeling me as someone I am not because it just lets you show yourself for who you are.
You really are running scared.
Shill. Liar. Fraud.
June 11th, 2006 at 3:50 pmIf you can’t wrap your mind around post 292, which I still show as my signature, then look for my post signed “Ken Daves†at 106pm.
That is where you are exposed. Liar.
Comment by Ken "DORKHEAD" Daves — June 11, 2006 @ 3:45 pm
Ok. Lemme get this straight.
First you said post 292 would "expose me". You also said that you wrote it.
Post 292 was ACTUALLY written by DICKFACE.
Then, you said POST 371 would expose me.
Post 371 was by Unbelievable, who was pointing out to you that Dickhead wrote post 292.
NOW you say the post at 1:06 is the one that will expose me.
Unfortunately I wrote the post timestamped at 1:06 PM.
You're not only a wimpy troll, you're the most pathetically confused troll I've ever met.
:D
June 11th, 2006 at 3:52 pmKnow any good right wing blog sites ?It would be an interesting switch to try reason with the few remaining supporters of bush
Comment by freeman — June 11, 2006 @ 3:48 pm
http://www.redstate.org
But you'll miss how 'Fight Club 2' ends... :)
June 11th, 2006 at 3:52 pmbut this arguing is exactly why coulter wrote that filth in the first place it plays into their hands and just distacts us from dealing with the facts that the democratic process has broken down here and that the majority of the population are becoming all to aware of it
June 11th, 2006 at 3:53 pmPost 401 was the most recent re-post of my "expose" on worf.
Lies of ommission are still lies.
Can't read, unbelievable? You ready to rebutt my dressing down of your buddy? Or is he your alter-ego?
I am only who I appear to be, except for a post where someone signed my name where I am portrayed as begging for everyone to love me.
Who sinks to such dirty tricks? People like worfeus, who is exposed repeatedly, but who can't seem to find those posts.
Like the MSM with the Downing Street Memos, the faked elections, Haditha (and many many more.)
June 11th, 2006 at 3:54 pmFine Freeman. So don't engage in it.
But for Gods sakes quit your damn left wing waaaa waaaa waaaaa can't we all get along crap.
If you can't hang, then don't come onto the court.
June 11th, 2006 at 3:56 pmBut I came to play ball, so do me a favor and just pass the ball and stay out of the way.
June 11th, 2006 at 3:57 pmYou’re not only a wimpy troll, you’re the most pathetically confused troll I’ve ever met.
Comment by CLUBBER WORFEUS — June 11, 2006 @ 3:52 pm
It's a complex smoke and mirrors trick - but still a smoke and mirrors trick...
All while eternally dodging the fact that not only are you NOT a liar, but now he's proven that he is... What a a lot of effort. You think the GOP pays him by the post or the word (I'm thinking word)...
June 11th, 2006 at 3:58 pmThere are only two posts time-stamped 106pm. Yours and mine. Mine preceeded yours.
You are so pathetic. Such a liar. So much fun to punch around.
Everyone else can see what I wrote about you, using your own words IN CONTEXT to expose you.
Liar.
June 11th, 2006 at 3:58 pmwemay find out howthis ends in the street and Idrather keep thinking about how to improve the lot of man and deal the mind blower of peak oil ever wonder if while we are fighting and we dont even have enuf troopsto deal with new orleanswithout help from the mexican army that we wont actually be invaded?
June 11th, 2006 at 3:59 pmPeople like worfeus, who is exposed repeatedly, but who can’t seem to find those posts.
Comment by Ken Daves — June 11, 2006 @ 3:54 pm
We found the posts fine.
Sorry they don't say what you claim they say.
But hey Einstein, I've got an idea.
Why don't you just "repost" these earthshaking posts that will expose me for the fraud that I am, instead of sending everyone here on a wild goose chase?
I mean, if they're soooooo good, then simply reposting them will expose me immediately, right?
June 11th, 2006 at 4:00 pmWorf said to freeman: "But for Gods sakes quit your damn left wing waaaa waaaa waaaaa can’t we all get along crap."
Now who is advancing the media's false image of the left?
Read my post and respond to my challenge.
Wimpy liar.
June 11th, 2006 at 4:00 pmGee Ken, somehow your fair and balanced "above the frey" attitude just seems to have gone the way of your invisible posts.
Like I said slappy, steady, or you'll blow a gasket.
June 11th, 2006 at 4:03 pmWho'd dodging? I'm not. I'm not afraid to expose you for the shills you are.
"All while eternally dodging the fact that not only are you NOT a liar, but now he’s proven that he is…"
Challenge to you, demonstrate a single lie from me and I'll shut up.
You won't because lies are your stock and trade.
Fun to hate asshole republican neocon shills like worfeus and his falsely masculine sports analogies.
Tough guy? No.
June 11th, 2006 at 4:04 pmcoulter revolters unite.
June 11th, 2006 at 4:04 pmGee Ken, looks like your reasonable and "above the frey" attitude has gone the way of your invisible posts.
Like I said, just repost them.
You are smart enough to "cut and paste" right?
Just repost this earthshaking post that only you can see.
June 11th, 2006 at 4:05 pmthis is going to get dirty if the press the dems and any republicans that still love their country dont step up to the plate soon The main stream news blogs are far more radical then any ive seen here period and its main stream
June 11th, 2006 at 4:06 pmCan’t read, unbelievable? You ready to rebutt my dressing down of your buddy? Or is he your alter-ego?
Comment by Ken Daves — June 11, 2006 @ 3:54 pm
Yeah Ken, that's a perfectly logical argument considering we're in a blog...
You really got nothing. Worfeus is seeing the same numbering that I am. You're just making stuff up.
I have known Worfeus for a while. We don't always agree, but I respect him as a person. He's a good guy with valiant motives. The kind who you could call at 2:00 if your car broke down, because you know he'd get out of bed and come pick you up. He's also very bright. Nothing you have said has impacted that negatively. In fact, if anything, it's reminded me how much we've missed him being here the last couple of months.
June 11th, 2006 at 4:06 pmWorfeus, there is no more point.
You refuse to accept my challenge, and you refuse to address where I met your challenge.
Enough.
We all know who you are.
June 11th, 2006 at 4:07 pmBut your post 419 is barely legible, indicating you just may be in the process of blowing a gasket.
June 11th, 2006 at 4:07 pmYou refuse to accept my challenge, and you refuse to address where I met your challenge
Comment by Ken Daves — June 11, 2006 @ 4:07 pm
What challenge?
I accept your challenge, hell I embraced your challenge.
I even went as far as going back and finding the posts you claimed were so damning to me, and reposted them for you.
Run away punk if you want, but we're ALL waiting for you to simply scroll up, and copy and paste this earthshaking post.
June 11th, 2006 at 4:10 pmBTW, I just played you. Even if you think you played me. Idiots.
I knew you were luring me into this endless debate, and I took it from you because you are here addressing me.
Coulter should be ignored because hatefulness on our airwaves, dragging our country down to her level, is what they were attempting to do.
You are like the right. You will never argue the issues, because by doing so you will lose.
You are losers, and it's been really fun exposing you two.
Most people who posted seem to get that coulter and matalin are of no importance. Vent a little, then get on with it.
You are here to further the right-wing "identity" they give to democrats, liberals, and anyone who hates what you and they stand for.
That's all. But heck, you got lots and lots of posts ostensibly about coulter, but really, mostly, about exposing you.
I must say, you are an incredibly easy target.
June 11th, 2006 at 4:11 pmWELL???
Where's this post???
I'm ready.
June 11th, 2006 at 4:11 pmand the conversation here is pathetic and obviously only meant to be disruptive but im telling you it isnt working in your favor The onlypeople still listening are incapable of reason in the first place and think jesus said bomb your enemies they are probably beyond help and in the minority and push come to shove the wealthy survive only as long as the population tolerate them.
June 11th, 2006 at 4:13 pmChallenge to you, demonstrate a single lie from me and I’ll shut up.
Comment by Ken Daves — June 11, 2006 @ 4:04 pm
No you won't, but okay...
You neither posted the message in #292 as Ken Daves, nor did you post at 1:06pm today in this thread. Claiming that you did both when you did not makes you a liar.
June 11th, 2006 at 4:13 pm"He’s a good guy with valiant motives."
I believe I've disproven that.
June 11th, 2006 at 4:13 pmThey didn't ignore Kerry or Dean. They didn't ignore Clinton, which helped Gore lose. Cream the bitch. Cream all the whores.
June 11th, 2006 at 4:15 pmI must say, you are an incredibly easy target.
Comment by Ken Daves — June 11, 2006 @ 4:11 pm
Well, Ken, you might wanna note that this post has over 430 posts. You know whatthat does? Draws people into it. So, instead of keeping it one of the less noticable posts, you actually contributed to making it one of the most noticable posts instead.
If you've fooled anyone here, it has only been yourself.
June 11th, 2006 at 4:17 pmI must say your an incredibly stupid troll Ken.
You are speaking in generalities because you can't face specifics.
You have been crying for an hour now for everyone to read post 292.
We did.
When we came back and said, SO?, you freaked out, realizing you had inadvertantly signed it with your OTHER handle, DICKFACE (a more suiting handle to be sure).
Then you tried to distract from that, by steering us to post 371. You asked us all to read it, as it would expose me once and for all.
We did.
It was by Unbelievable, not you.
Then you claimed a 1:06 post written by you, that no one but YOU can see.
So I simply and quite sensibly asked you to simply COPY and PASTE this so called post that only YOU can see, and what was your response? Here let me REPOST it for you so theres no confusion.
Worfeus, there is no more point
Comment by Ken "TURDWEASAL" Daves — June 11, 2006 @ 4:07 pm
Yea, you really cleaned my clock, lol.
June 11th, 2006 at 4:17 pmit doent matter if your disruptive because its so obvious and anyone reding this on the left will only get angrier and more nervous Dont make the sheep nervous there will be hell to pay
June 11th, 2006 at 4:18 pmyes, keeta, but they own the airwaves and get to portray us as they wish. We do not have that luxury.
I suppose it matters little what we actually say, given that sad fact.
Just once, I would love to let them spew in a vacuum, just so their arguments will collapse of their own accord.
And they send their shills like worfeus to help propel that little piece of propaganda.
They are desperate to disrupt the internet, and I fed into that a little bit so we could see them at work.
Keeta, freeman, do you see my posts at 292, 401?
Just checking. They're here for me.
June 11th, 2006 at 4:19 pmI believe I’ve disproven that.
Comment by Ken Daves — June 11, 2006 @ 4:13 pm
There's your problem Ken... you're delusional.
June 11th, 2006 at 4:20 pmSo the balls in your court TURDWEASAL.
Copy and paste this so called earthshattering post, that will once and for all expose me, so we can all see what a truthful guy you are, and what a liar I am.
Hurry up stupid.
We're waiting.
June 11th, 2006 at 4:20 pmDems should fight dirty.
Why do you think they call Delay the Hammer.
The repukes will stop at NOTHING.
Place you anger where it comes from. The Republican Operatives.
June 11th, 2006 at 4:20 pmthe bread and circus strategy is failing her The rules your playing by work onlyas long as the general population plays ball benito
June 11th, 2006 at 4:21 pmJust once, I would love to let them spew in a vacuum
Comment by Ken the TURDWEASAL Daves — June 11, 2006 @ 4:19 pm
We ARE in a vacuum lamebrain.
All your posts, and mine, are all here for inspection.
And that vacuum just sucked your dumbass right up.
Because what you CLAIMED you said, does not seem to be there for anyone here to see, but you.
June 11th, 2006 at 4:24 pm"Well, Ken, you might wanna note that this post has over 430 posts. You know whatthat does? Draws people into it. So, instead of keeping it one of the less noticable posts, you actually contributed to making it one of the most noticable posts instead."
I expressed already that I knew you were doing this. Everyone knows it. You can't help but show your true motives by way of trying to say "gotcha"!
But this is of no importance either.
I just think it's important that people know who they are dealing with when there are liars like you, drawing them in to adding numbers to the post.
Did you know that when you write a complaint to FOX (or any of them, for that matter) they take that as viewership?
That's what you're doing here.
It is a pity that content is not an issue for you, because again, you lose when you engage in a real argument.
June 11th, 2006 at 4:24 pmWhat gives TURDWEASAL?
Another post, but no COPY and PASTE from the MYSTERY post you CHALLENGED me to read?
Not very challenging.
June 11th, 2006 at 4:27 pmSo tell us, are you the BEST Ann Coulter has to send in here?
Because you SUCK.
June 11th, 2006 at 4:28 pmFor the last time, I wish we could all just ignore coulter and matalin and let them die of their own hatefulness.
Maybe it's good to counter them, and maybe that was the whole point of her being given air time.
With shills like worfeus here to think they're drawing me in, they expose themselves.
Just read worfeus's continual portrayal of the left as weak, lame, undecisive...
They do not help the left. And neither have I to this point only because I let you drag me down, but I had to expose you.
Why do you think worfeus called gore the best guy for president while simultaneously admitting that he was weak?
Sophisticated? They think so.
To some, they are just obvious. And obvious is never clever. Just shrill and evasive of the real issues.
June 11th, 2006 at 4:29 pmSigns that Worfeus is NOT what he claims to be:
#64 in response to a reasonable call for a boycott, a useful tool that hits the right where they feel it most: “Boycott?
Thats reich wing crap jmoor. We don’t try to silence people. Thats their schtick.â€
Boycotts have been used by every flavor of human. They work.
June 11th, 2006 at 4:32 pmleave no legitamate recources and we will see the anger of the mob Its revealing that the trolls probably play both sides of the fence here but no matter it will only serve to piss off the realpower here ! All cheneys money is ultimately just so many marks on a piece of paper if the people quit playing by his rules and that also can apply to the 2 % at the top and its ceo.s they may yet rid us of the neocons to save their own skins. better do it beforethis thing reaches critical mass folks
June 11th, 2006 at 4:32 pm#81. “Sure. Do nothing. Thats what Democrats have been doing for 8 years.
Guess theres no reason for you to change now.â€
He furthers the false portrayal of dems, while willfully fulfilling the other description, which is that we’re a bunch of whiners. Notice he uses “you†to describe democrats. This demonstrates a certain contempt for those he claims to prefer.
June 11th, 2006 at 4:32 pm#100 “I am standing up to a bunch of reich wing maggots who think they can say anything they want, and the little democrats will either cower and say, Oohh, don’t stoop to their level, or we will become “enraged†and throw a fit.â€
He is consistent in the way he portrays democrats or those on the political left. He also separates himself from those he mis-characterizes by using “their†and “little democratsâ€.
June 11th, 2006 at 4:33 pm#102. “When the democracts finally GROW A PAIR, then maybe we can get our planet back on track.â€
Echoing again the republican/media portrayal of those who oppose the right.
June 11th, 2006 at 4:33 pm#110. Under attack for being exposed as a pawn, he finally begins to self-identify with the left. What else could a pawn do? “Not that I think you are, but with a defeatist attitude like that, you might as well be.†Again, he continues the lie that we are defeatist. My posting here is proof alone that I am not defeatist.
June 11th, 2006 at 4:34 pmWow, thats your answer?
After cussing, swearing, throwing fits, talking about playing people, now you're trying to sound like your "above the frey" again?
Funny, but I couldn't help notice that you STILL have not bothered to take 20 seconds, and REPOST these magical posts you claim to have written, that SO FAR, NO ONE, but YOU, can see.
I'd say thats Game, Set and Match.
June 11th, 2006 at 4:34 pm#125. A little honesty never hurts: “In truth I have more respect for Ann Coulter than I do for many of the liberals and so called “progressives†in here.†This whole post is telling. It is the one time he lets his guard down and shows who he really is. He adds: “When you guys are capable of standing up to her and beating her at her own game, you’ll always be in second place.†Again, “youâ€. No logic at all to his comments here, but revealing nonetheless.
June 11th, 2006 at 4:34 pm#132 “Everytime someone in here makes a semi witty counter to one of the Coulterists, and you come in whining and balling about “playing nice†and telling everyone to “just ignore herâ€, you further reinforce the common prevailing notion that democrats are wimps, which is why the American people hesitate to vote for them.â€
Again furthering the false characterization set by our lying media. I think it’s clear who’s side he’s on.
June 11th, 2006 at 4:35 pm#135 “Hell maybe I should become a republican.
At least then I won’t be ashamed of my own sides commitment to victory.â€
Need I say more?
June 11th, 2006 at 4:35 pmdivide and conquer? effective in politics?
June 11th, 2006 at 4:36 pmThats right.
I stand by everyone of those posts two.
See the difference between a MAN, and a WORM, is that the man recognizes, and vocalizes his weaknesses, so he can turn them into strengths.
But a WORM like you, just likes to say you're tough, hoping that if you say it enough, someone might come to believe it.
June 11th, 2006 at 4:36 pmBut I can't help but notice in all your reposting of my posts TURDWEASAL, that you for some ODD reason, just can't seem to find that supposed post YOU wrote, that will expose me once and for all.
I mean, if you're busy cutting and pasting, why not take 20 seconds to prove me wrong once and for all?
Why not?
I know why.
June 11th, 2006 at 4:39 pmLet's go to a republican blog and wreake havoc. Stay united.
June 11th, 2006 at 4:39 pmLet’s go to a republican blog and wreake havoc. Stay united.
Comment by keeta — June 11, 2006 @ 4:39 pm
Well said Keeta, and thats the kind of spirit the dems need, but as for the repub blog?
I'd be happy too, but there are so many of them in here, why bother?
June 11th, 2006 at 4:49 pmOtherwise I can only conclude that you live in an alternate universe where your reality is different from the rest of us.
Comment by Willy — June 11, 2006 @ 4:55 pm
I think that's probably true regardless of the numbering :)
Both Worfeus and I have been here long enough for TP to know that we're here to be counted among the liberal voices. Ken is new and suspicious. I think he's probably a paid troll for Ann Coulter. If not, he's doing a great job of acting like one.
June 11th, 2006 at 5:03 pmhaving the opposite perspecyive would be great but obviosly this all just about being disruptive ,I ask again know any other blog spots for the right I just checked on redstate and there are no disruptive lefties and also no other opinions offered there.Just nice polite back slapping .I suggest a RESPECTFULL invasion of the rights blogs is probably over due
June 11th, 2006 at 5:36 pmFreeman: My understanding is that blogs with the "opposite" perspective tend to censor posts and then restricts postings from these “disruptive†posters. They don’t seem to like opposing viewpoints (Think Progress strives to be democratic; those on the right seem to prefer to emulate fascism). This is not from personal experience, but only what I've heard.
Unbelievable: Thanks for the response. I have been trying to give Ken Daves the benefit of the doubt that he may be progressive, but he sure doesn't act like it. If he is progressive, his style is VERY counter productive.
For what it's worth, in post 460 I should have written "with bated breath" instead of "with baited breath".
June 11th, 2006 at 5:54 pmLOL. freeman I like your style.
And you're right, it would be good to go into a reich wing blog and bash a few brains, so to speak.
But the problem is the right does not view free speech in the same manner as the left.
Why do you think all you see in there is backslapping and asskissing? Because dissenting voices are not welcome, nor tolerated. Just like tha Third Reich, you're either with them, or against them.
Not to mention they log IP addresses in there, so if your intent is on remaining anonymous, I wouldn't bother with them. You go in there and piss them off, they're liable to pull a Bill O'reilly on you, log your IP and try and have you arrested on some bogus charge of SPAM or something.
No free speech in the Reichstag blogs, thats for sure.
June 11th, 2006 at 5:58 pmWhere is Soupy Sales and the Marx Brothers when you need them? Three cheers to you that young college boy last year who threw a
June 11th, 2006 at 5:59 pmCream pie in Ann Coulter's face!!! You are my hero! Nothing says
humiliation than a cream pie in the face. Why not start this as a
national tradition? Every time she has a speaking engagement,
someone out there step up to the plate and sock it to her!
UNB, you were fantastic today.
June 11th, 2006 at 6:03 pmFor what it’s worth, in post 460 I should have written “with bated breath†instead of “with baited breathâ€.
Comment by Willy — June 11, 2006 @ 5:54 pm
Ah, we all do it on occasion. I do it myself. I only point it out to those who come in here and act all high and mighty. "Oh, look, you aren't perfect either!"
As for Ken, he couldn't have been a liberal. I agree with you on that. He was more like an articulate version of IRI. Same tactics and same refusal to find concensus.
Well, I hope he doesn't have a dog to go kick after this :)
June 11th, 2006 at 6:10 pmThree cheers to you that young college boy last year who threw a
Cream pie in Ann Coulter’s face!!!
Comment by Ruth Hellkamp — June 11, 2006 @ 5:59 pm
So Ruth, lets see. You just happened in here to tell us that?
Hmmm, I guess you're hoping we'll all jump on and say, YEA, hit her with a pie?
Because hitting Ann Coulter with a pie was a stupid, juvinile and criminal thing to do. It was assault. And anyone who endorses that kind of behavior just because they don't like someones words, is NO liberal.
Period.
June 11th, 2006 at 6:10 pmPoor damn dog.
June 11th, 2006 at 6:11 pmUNB, you were fantastic today.
Comment by FLAVIUS `WORFEUS — June 11, 2006 @ 6:03 pm
Not according to American Patriot :)
Thanks... you've done the same for me. Glad I could help. Though you were doing great on your own! Didn't really need me :)
I think Ken probably imploded. He had no game. :)
June 11th, 2006 at 6:15 pm#438 - "Dems should fight dirty" ???? LOLOLOL - Dems have been fighting DIRTY since the Civil War, since anti-Catholic spew hurled at Al Smith by the leftier-wing of the Dem Party, since Sam Giancana stole the election for JFK, and on and on and on....No, I think Dems know how to fight dirty. But I will agree, most Dems are indecisive - except that they HATE all things not liberal or socially aberrant.
June 11th, 2006 at 6:15 pmAnd UNB, I think you know exactly what I am saying when it comes to the Dems. I am not strengthing an argument against them.
If they're weak, my saying they're weak is not going to make them any weaker.
And if they're strong, my saying they're weak isn't going to affect them at all.
But you know what I'm talking about. I think we all do. You've seen it, on Meet the Press, or Hardball, when Tim Russert or Chris Matthews is trying to coax a decent response out of a democrat to defend themselves against someone calling them, oh say, weak on the war on Terror.
Instead of coming back, by demonstrating what wimps on the war on terror the repubs are, Kerry says something like, Well, its disengenuous at best....
Argggghhhhhhhhhhhhh
God is it too much to ask for one Sam Clemens?
We dig our own graves everytime we open our mouths.
June 11th, 2006 at 6:19 pmAnd NotSo Mighty Aphrodite?
Maybe keeta, whoever that is said that, but I never did.
Dems don't need to fight dirty.
They need to fight smart.
June 11th, 2006 at 6:22 pmFreakin Hilary standing there, They run it like a plantation. And you know what I'm talkin about.
What the hell was that?
What nimrod gave her that one to say?
We need less Steve McMahon's and more Steve Colberts.
June 11th, 2006 at 6:26 pmhey whorefeus—-what happened to your clubb?
Comment by Dork Face — June 11, 2006 @ 6:24 pm
I don't need a club for you pinhead.
June 11th, 2006 at 6:27 pmAnd Joe Liebermans?
We need ZERO Joe Livermans.
He cost us 00 and he costs us so much more now.
I wish he'd defect.
June 11th, 2006 at 6:29 pm"But I will agree, most Dems are indecisive ".....except for ClubberLang Worfeus who KNOWS the definition of assault and battery. Scrolling through your ongoing argument, I was trying to go back and find who was against the boycott of Ann Coulter's book. I don't have a problem with boycotting - I try very hard not to give financial support to to certain people. I don't contact Borders and tell them to NOT carry a certain author - YOU may wish to read that book and I don't want to interfere with your right to do so. (I wouldn't buy a ticket to see Barbra Streisand, or to listen to Al Franken and I haven't sat through anything with Tim Robbins since his brilliant performance in Shawshank Redemption.) But at the library I check out all the lib spew I can stomach and try to hear the alternative argument and conspiracy theory for what they are.
Wishing you more liberal fun and games....
June 11th, 2006 at 6:30 pmI try very hard not to give financial support to to certain people. I don’t contact Borders and tell them to NOT carry a certain author - YOU may wish to read that book and I don’t want to interfere with your right to do so
Comment by mighty aphrodite — June 11, 2006 @ 6:30 pm
Exactly.
A group of people getting together and saying, "we're not gonna buy this book" , or "we're gonna stop listening to this group and not buy their CD's" is one thing.
But when you threaten retailers with all out boycotts of their stores if they choose to carry it, then you've crossed over the line from protesting, and restricting.
One is free speech.
The other is Anti-Free speech.
People on both sides seem to have a problem discerning the difference.
June 11th, 2006 at 6:36 pmWe dig our own graves everytime we open our mouths.
Comment by FLAVIUS `WORFEUS — June 11, 2006 @ 6:19 pm
Why I'm an Independent. Those guys can never accomplish everything they say that they will, but atleast they are saying it to begin with...
I do know what you're saying.... And I'll tell you - people like to bitch at those who speak the truth. Very few are strong enough to remain strong... Let's hope there's someone to step forward soon. November is is just 5 months away...
June 11th, 2006 at 6:39 pmYea, to be honest thats why I'm not a Dem either. I don't classify myself because their is truth in both parties, as well as lies.
Problem is cutting through the crud and exposing some truth.
June 11th, 2006 at 6:43 pmBTW, MA, I don't you if you noticed, but your comrade there, DICKHEAD or whatever his name is, just called you a sensabe.
Now I don't know what a sensabe is, but it doesn't sound good.
Some kind of insect I am guessing.
June 11th, 2006 at 6:51 pmLet’s hope there’s someone to step forward soon. November is is just 5 months away…
Comment by unbelievable — June 11, 2006 @ 6:39 pm
Well I am praying Al Gore's gnads will drop, and he'll step up to the plate. Him and Feingold would make a really powerful team to beat whatever the right can put up.
Course, after the bowery boys present demonstration of their ability to run a country, I imagine the American people would vote in a water bottle before they'd vote in another republican President.
June 11th, 2006 at 7:01 pmThat's why'd I'd never buy Ann Coulters book, but I'd also never burn it.
Nazi's burn em.
Americans read, write, and sell them.
June 11th, 2006 at 7:16 pmNah, Clubber, sensabe DOES sound like a bug in Florida large enough to ride but the correct definition of sensabe is "sensible AND able"- it's QUITE a compliment.....
AND I MUSTagree with you on another point- what's the world coming to? I think the BEST ticket the Dems could run is Gore/Feingold!!!!! Smart, articulate, loads of sex appeal, one an expert in Constitutional law, foreign policy, military strategy and the other a tried and true environmentalist....a match made in heaven (sorry atheists). but expect a big floor fight to culminate after MUCH backstabbing from Hillary. She won't go down with out a fight - and I'm not referring to her husband's sexual preferences....
June 11th, 2006 at 7:21 pmPeople love to talk about boycotting the book, but what they really mean is boycotting the stores.
If you boycott the book, well, it just means you don't buy it, along with a bunch of other people.
Well if thats the case, we all boycott millions of books every day. In the Borders in our town, there are many books.
I have only bought a some of them.
So I guess I boycotted all those other books, along with the group of people who, like me, did not buy them.
Like that 'Men Are From Venus, Women Have A Penis' or some crap like that.;
Yea that one. I Boycotted the hell out of that one.
June 11th, 2006 at 7:23 pmNah, Clubber, sensabe DOES sound like a bug in Florida large enough to ride but the correct definition of sensabe is “sensible AND ableâ€- it’s QUITE a compliment…..
Comment by mighty aphrodite — June 11, 2006 @ 7:21 pm
Oh I'm sure it is.
June 11th, 2006 at 7:25 pmI think the BEST ticket the Dems could run is Gore/Feingold!!!!! Smart, articulate, loads of sex appeal, one an expert in Constitutional law, foreign policy, military strategy and the other a tried and true environmentalist….a match made in heaven
Comment by mighty aphrodite — June 11, 2006 @ 7:21 pm
Ok, I'm glad we agree. I think. :|
But you did leave out one small item on Mr Gore's resume.
He also happened to be the Vice President of the United States of America, for 8 of the most successful, profitable and downright fun 8 years this country has ever known, least in my lifetime.
This makes him the most qualifed Democrat in America right now, to lead us all out of the trainwreck the right will be handing to them.
June 11th, 2006 at 7:36 pmbut expect a big floor fight to culminate after MUCH backstabbing from Hillary. She won’t go down with out a fight -
Comment by mighty aphrodite — June 11, 2006 @ 7:21 pm
Don't worry. I do. So does the rest.
But Hilary is young, and I think if she saw that the party was leaning away, I think she might decide it would be better for her to stay in the senate, and make establish herself a little longer before going for the brass ring.
After all she is young still.
But I don't think she has the right stuff to win. I know it would be hard for me to vote for her. It was hard for me to vote for Kerry. It really took some soul searching.
Even though I think he is a vastly more respectable man than Bush, particularly when it comes to his military career, he was too much the life long politician. Too old school and polished. And to wishy washy.
I could see why he chose windsurfing as I am sure he was quite comfortable with a sport that permitted him to be carried wherever the wind blew him.
But Hilary's not getting the nod. She can't. Unless the Dems want deserters in droves.
June 11th, 2006 at 7:43 pmGore on the other hand is a genius. He is skilled in other things besides politics, something weed pullers like Bush will never understand.
Does Bush have any skills other than once he could fly a plane, sorta?
And digging dry oil wells for Arbusto doesn't count.
Think I'm lying just ask James Bath.
June 11th, 2006 at 7:46 pmI bet he's good at rooting out bole weevils though.
June 11th, 2006 at 7:48 pmThanks, Clubber, for reminding me about how great Gore's administrative experience is. What exactly did he DO besides manage to show up and vote to raise taxes as the exalted Senate President?? I wasn't aware of him doing more than the average VP duties of showing up at funerals, etc. Somehow, I got the impression Bill was the "bad boy" and Al was the "up-tight nerd" - but he sure shot my impression full of holes with that KISS on the happily ravaged Tipper.
June 11th, 2006 at 7:50 pm"I could see why he chose windsurfing as I am sure he was quite comfortable with a sport that permitted him to be carried wherever the wind blew him."
June 11th, 2006 at 7:55 pmF. Worfeus
******(applause, applause) VERY funny!!!! (& very true...)
Genius?———why, algore singlehandedly invented the internet!
Comment by Pookie — June 11, 2006 @ 7:57 pm
You know that is about as tired as the name "pookie".
June 11th, 2006 at 7:59 pmbut he sure shot my impression full of holes with that KISS on the happily ravaged Tipper.
Comment by mighty aphrodite — June 11, 2006 @ 7:50 pm
That kiss cost them a lot. It was too sloppy.
It left everyone thinking, get a room.
June 11th, 2006 at 8:00 pmQuick. How many times did Matalin say the word "point"? What was her point in doing so?
June 11th, 2006 at 8:01 pmThat's weird. I thought this was a thread about Matalin re:Coulter. It seems to have mutated into a debate about Gore. Somebody try the old change the subject routine to defend the indefensible? How's that working?
June 11th, 2006 at 8:06 pmWhat exactly did he DO besides manage to show up and vote to raise taxes as the exalted Senate President??
Comment by mighty aphrodite — June 11, 2006 @ 7:50 pm
Well lets see. He passed laws to get every school in America wired to the Internet, he was a stalwart advocate of the environment, and started new programs like GLOBE and pushing the Kyoto Treaty.
He advised the President on Foriegn Affairs, including spearheading Operation Deseret Fox, and removing Slobodan Milosevic.
In fact, if you think about it, Gore won his war.
June 11th, 2006 at 8:07 pmThats more than Bush has done in 6 years as President, lol.
June 11th, 2006 at 8:11 pmNew for Mary Matalin about being called Hitler or Nazis--if the shoe fits....In all my travels I have yet to meet a Republican woman with a heart. One wonders what group will next endure the despicable attacks of the right-wing of the Republican party. This really does mark a new low in public debate.
June 11th, 2006 at 8:31 pmNews flash for Mary Matalin being called Hitler or Nazis--if the shoe fits....In all my travels I have yet to meet a Republican woman with a heart. One wonders what group will next endure the despicable wrath of the extreme right-wing of the Republican party. This really does mark a new low in public debate.
June 11th, 2006 at 8:33 pmHe left the job for someone else to do
Comment by Pook — June 11, 2006 @ 8:30 pm
You mean finding the WMD that doesn't exist lol?
And you guy's are doing a "heck-uva-job" doing it too, LMFAO.
June 11th, 2006 at 8:46 pmPookie, #506:
Human rights? In Iraq?? Wowsers, is that ever news? If true, then I guess we must have just turned another corner in Iraq. I would think this must be about the 15th corner we've turned. Please let me know when we turn the 100th corner, then we REALLY will have something to celebrate. LMFAO
Pookie also says: "What a racist." That's another good one from a right wing troll. LOL
June 11th, 2006 at 9:19 pmHi. I think I've lost track of the conversation. I did want to say that I do think it's important to respond to Coulter's comments.
However, I don't at all agree with the tactic of calling her, or anyone else, and especially not each other-- names-- except perhaps lovingly or jokingly, of course.
Ken seems to believe that it is either black or white, either we ignore these attacks or respond in kind, thereby "lowering ourselves to their level."
I think a Third Way is extremely important, by responding in an assertive manner, so that some of the issues that she raises can be addressed. I believe that "perpetrators" will attack more if they are getting the result that they want, and if they think that they can get away with it. The term "swift-boating" has developed for this very reason, IMHO.
June 11th, 2006 at 9:47 pmTell you what, Pook is it?
Why don't you take the wife and kids on down to the Baghdad Hilton, and spend a couple of weeks.
Tour the local shops, take in the rich ethnic culture, and just have a general good time.
And don't forget to send us a postcard buddy!
Asta
June 11th, 2006 at 9:50 pmHowever, I don’t at all agree with the tactic of calling her, or anyone else, and especially not each other– names– except perhaps lovingly or jokingly, of course.
Comment by Tina — June 11, 2006 @ 9:47 pm
Tina, don't you have some poseys to sell at the airport or something?
June 11th, 2006 at 9:52 pmYes, Tina is right everyone.
The only way we are going to attract the votes of the midwestern hillbilly clans, is by talking to them "lovingly".
Hell it worked in 04 right?
June 11th, 2006 at 9:54 pmBTW Tina, nothing personal, just I've heard all the "lets play nice" bs I can stomach for a few days.
June 11th, 2006 at 9:57 pmMarkos from the Daily Kos just gave Lieberman his due on Meet the Press today.
Way to go Markos!
June 11th, 2006 at 10:35 pmClubb
I bet if you take your white ass down to east LA, Harlem or the "wrong" parts of many of our own big cities and try to get a room you probably would meet the same fate. How many americans are murdered here in a week? How many places here would you not dare to go? Our inner cities are only a little more secure than bagdad. And we've been around for more than 200 years. So whats your point?
June 11th, 2006 at 10:36 pmI think you're only hurting each other by talking that way. And you're doing the exact same thing that Coulter is doing-- although she is far more skilled at it. But of course you don't have to agree.
However, I do feel hopeless about liberals if this is the best they can come up with.
I do believe we are capable of more.
June 11th, 2006 at 10:38 pmbet if you take your white ass down to east LA, Harlem or the “wrong†parts of many of our own big cities and try to get a room you probably would meet the same fate.
Comment by mook — June 11, 2006 @ 10:36 pm
Are you freakin kiddin me? I'm live and work in DC, and I grew up in SE.
Don't try to think mook, you're gonna give yourself a brainfart.
Just stick to calling me a liar and a traitor and you'll be just fine.
June 11th, 2006 at 10:52 pmI think you’re only hurting each other by talking that way. And you’re doing the exact same thing that Coulter is doing– although she is far more skilled at it.
Comment by Tina — June 11, 2006 @ 10:38 pm
Ahh but I beg to differ.
She has a bigger pond to fish in, but that doesn't mean shes better.
I have asserted from day 1, that if Coulter were unfortunate enough to find herself in a blog with the Demon Worfeus, she would melt under the heat.
And if you want to prove that wrong, just tell her to come on in.
Tell her, Flavius Worfeus is at her service.
June 11th, 2006 at 10:59 pmI think you’re only hurting each other by talking that way.
Comment by Tina — June 11, 2006 @ 10:38 pm
No, we're not.
This is just a blog, and if you don't get hurt by someone calling you a Peabrain in a blog.
Bullets and bombs. Now those hurt. Fists hurt. Knifes and Guns hurt. Trees falling on you hurts. A strained Sacroiliac hurts, as does a groin pull.
But words don't hurt. They might piss you off, but they don't hurt.
Remember, you learned this in Nursery School?
Sticks and stones will break my bones but........
You finish it.
June 11th, 2006 at 11:04 pmI don't care where you live or work. If you in fact live in DC and you grew up in SE LA, then you know better than anybody that there are places you Just Dont Go. So--How many folks are murdered in our cities? Point is--Security there is not much better than Bagdad. So---what was your point?
There you go again--when you run out of intelect, you resort to ad hominim personal attacks. Running on "E" are we?
June 11th, 2006 at 11:06 pmI have asserted from day 1, that if Coulter were unfortunate enough to find herself in a blog with the Demon Worfeus, she would melt under the heat.
And if you want to prove that wrong, just tell her to come on in.
Tell her, Flavius Worfeus is at her service.
Come on CLUBB-----J*ck yourself again for us.......
June 11th, 2006 at 11:10 pmI have asserted from day 1, that if Coulter were unfortunate enough to find herself in a blog with the Demon Worfeus, she would melt under the heat.
And if you want to prove that wrong, just tell her to come on in.
Tell her, Flavius Worfeus is at her service.
Come on CLUBB—–J*ck yourself off again for us…….
June 11th, 2006 at 11:10 pmJune 11th, 2006 at 11:15 pm
I'm meeeeeeeeeelting, meeeeeeeeeeeeelting, meeeeeeeeeeeeelting..............
June 11th, 2006 at 11:20 pmYou know what mook?
You're absolutely right. Please take the following letter down and forward to all combat forces overseas.
June 11th, 2006 at 11:35 pm
In fact, lets make this the Army's new slogan.
June 11th, 2006 at 11:40 pm
Jeez, Chubb-------is that the best you can come up with? I'm beginning to get bored with this. You do have a flair for the dramatic though. Ever thought about taking up writing fiction? Maybe soap operas.........
June 11th, 2006 at 11:45 pm"these women got paid, they ought to take their money and shut up about it."
THAT is the most disgusting quote from Mr. Ann Coulter this week.
She's a scumbag, let's face it. She doesn't deserve any sort of forum, let alone the one NBC gave her on the Today show.
The fact is, people speak from their experiences. Ann has a heinous, awful life and speaks from that point of view.
Mothers Against Drunk Driving grew out of the grief of one mother. Tons of other political organizations started because of the personal experiences of their members.
THE MOST IMPORTANT POINT: Ann never does actually criticize the points made by these women!!! Instead of talking about where they're wrong when they say we haven't done enough to implement measures to keep this country safe, she simply calls them names.
I have a name for Ann- total moron!
June 11th, 2006 at 11:45 pmWell tell em them dumbass.
Don't run your yap to me.
Lets have you get a letter off to the troops right away telling them what sissies they are.
When soldiers start coming home, and they will, we will have them come see you so you can share your war stories about your dangerous commutes to the burger king, where you both work and eat 2 3rds of your meals, you all American hero you.
Cause God knows if its not much more dangerous in Iraq than here, I'm sick of hearing about it.
Lets leave em there for another 10 years.
June 11th, 2006 at 11:49 pmBTW that last comment was to mook, not you Tom.
June 11th, 2006 at 11:51 pmJeez, Chubb——-is that the best you can come up with? I’m beginning to get bored with this. You do have a flair for the dramatic though. Ever thought about taking up writing fiction? Maybe soap operas.....
June 11th, 2006 at 11:54 pmya know Chubb---i don't think you give a rat's ass aabout the troops.. all you care about is your little agenda---hating bush and anyone to the right of joseph stalin.
June 11th, 2006 at 11:58 pmGee you're repeating yourself.
Guess your little brain crapped out huh?
Ok.
Here, let me translate for you.
Jeez, Chubb——-is that the best you can come up with? I’m beginning to get bored with this. You do have a flair for the dramatic though. Ever thought about taking up writing fiction? Maybe soap operas….. = I am way out of my league as I am too damn dumb to even think of an answer.
Keep repeating yourself lamebrain, and I'll see you in the funny pages.
Night ladies.
June 11th, 2006 at 11:58 pmin fact i think you would rather lose this war just to be able to push this agenda even farther
June 12th, 2006 at 12:00 amchub don't the door hit you on the way out
June 12th, 2006 at 12:01 amya know Chubb—i don’t think you give a rat’s ass aabout the troops.. all you care about is your little agenda—hating bush and anyone to the right of joseph stalin.
Comment by pook — June 11, 2006 @ 11:58 pm
Well lets see, I'm the one who wants to bring them home, and you're the one who wants to keep them there for the next decade.
Yea, your concern is overwhelming.
June 12th, 2006 at 12:01 amYou only want to do what ever it takes to show bush a failure
June 12th, 2006 at 12:05 amchub don’t the door hit you on the way out
Comment by mook — June 12, 2006 @ 12:01 am
Pathetic.
You can't even think up your own stuff. Gotta copy mine.
Oh well. they say the highest form of flattery is impersonation.
Thanks lil buddy.
June 12th, 2006 at 12:06 amgood night ladies
June 12th, 2006 at 12:09 amYou only want to do what ever it takes to show bush a failure
Comment by poop — June 12, 2006 @ 12:05 am
Uhh, in case you missed the last 6 years, he doesn't need my help for that.
June 12th, 2006 at 12:09 amGood night Whorefeus
June 12th, 2006 at 12:10 amAsta poop.
June 12th, 2006 at 12:13 amWhy do we tolerate Coulter's superficial stupidity? The 9/11 widows are asking questions that the Government finds beyond the pale and Coulter won't let them be answered. Why does Coulter hate the truth? Why does the media allow her to make the pursuit of truth superficial? America deserves more truth and less trivialization that Coulter forces. Ignore her stupidity and give respect to those who deserve it. It's the American way.
June 12th, 2006 at 1:17 amWORFEUS I have some information for you posted on the Zarqawi thread above this one!
June 12th, 2006 at 1:43 amI saw that Jay.
It freaked me out. If its true, then I almost don't want to know.
God I hope thats not true Jay.
This deal just keeps gettin worse and worse.
June 12th, 2006 at 2:32 amRe #449: If the written word doesn't hurt, then why are you upset about Coulter's comments regarding the 9/11 widows? Why do you bother to get angry about it, and spend all this time on this blog?
June 12th, 2006 at 2:50 amKen (#8) is right on the money! The repugs have perfected and the media has facilitated this new type of distraction by outrage! Laugh it off and move back to the real issues at hand.
June 12th, 2006 at 2:54 amIf the written word doesn’t hurt, then why are you upset about Coulter’s comments?
Comment by Tina — June 12, 2006 @ 2:50 am
Who's upset?
You're the one complaining. Don't see me getting angry.
June 12th, 2006 at 2:57 amand spend all this time on this blog?
Comment by Tina — June 12, 2006 @ 2:50 am
Cause I'm havin a good time!
June 12th, 2006 at 2:58 amWhat is there to add? MAN COULTER is just a dirty cast iron-Ku****nt that spews garbage and sewage as far as one can see. Anyone defending her/him is guilty of being an enabler.
Off topic, since Man Coulter is being investigaed for felony voter fraud, why is it that he/she left the sex question blank on the voter registration?
And why is Man Coulter running scared and hiring the Bush lawyers to defend him/her?
I love Man Coulter on TV, it is the best comedy since Friends and Frazier left the air.
June 12th, 2006 at 4:13 amOh, also I wonder if someone called Bush (aka Dumbya) a harpie or venimous slut would Matalin (indicted co-conspiritor) say the world was on fire?
June 12th, 2006 at 4:15 amMatalin blew it. Coulter made a reprehensible statement that no normal journalist would have made and Matalin could not bring herself to face the reality. Once again the dittoheads are going deeper into this strange world of fantasy behind the looking glass. Next Matalin will talk about March Hares and liberal Walruses and Carpenters. Poor Mary.
June 12th, 2006 at 4:21 am#476, tina darling, REPUGs get upset, those of us in the reality based world laugh as Man Coulter, aka venimous slut spew her sewage. We need good entertainment, and those at FAUX news provide to us so freely. We spend time here on this blog to try and educated those REPUGnicans/REGRESSIVES that still believe that black people should be working the fields, and that women should be barefoot and pregnant in front of the wood burning stove...
So, on that note, if YOU CAN'T STAND THE HEAT, get out of our kitchen. Love and kisses, and hope you don't get pregnant while the repugs are on duty, as you MAY NO LONGER HAVE A CHOICE.
Personally, I think you should have a choice, as someone that obviously likes Man Coulter, I don't think you should reproducing. It only makes the gene pool that much shallower.
June 12th, 2006 at 4:22 amThe fact of the matter is, many September 11 widows did rake in millions of dollars, they became celebrities of sorts for their status of Sept. 11 widows, and probably felt they could use that clout to influence the government, and they did. The 911 commission was a good thing in that it exposed glaring problems in intelligence gathering and how 9/11 was handled. After a while, it did get tiresome of hearing and reading about these widows ALL the time. It's not that I don't have sympathy for them, but after a while it gets to be a bit much. There is a time and place for greiving, and after four and half years it's time to keep private grief private.
Are there gold diggers among some of the relatives of 9/11 victims? Most likely. But Coulter is a shameless opportunist too. How much money has SHE made so far?
Coulter was wrong to use the terms she did with the particular widows that she did, because it was hurtfull to all widows no doubt, and I don't think they were her targets. Coulter is a shrill republican blowhard. And including her inflammatory comments has made HER more of a celebrity, and it's made HER millions, so look whose calling the kettle black. She basking in the glow of being even more controversial and outlandish.
Both the widows she targeted and Coulter herself are luaghing stocks and fodder for bloggers and the legitimate media. They all need to get over themselves. But I must say, at least this ridiculous topic gave me a few minutes of entertainment :) :) thanks Coulter, thanks Widows
June 12th, 2006 at 6:26 amMatalin is indeed a Harpie, but not so Coulter. One cannot have a dick and be a Harpie which of course eliminates Ann the man.
June 12th, 2006 at 8:30 amSomeone should just video tape themselves giving her a blowjob, so she can go back to her cave..errr....
June 12th, 2006 at 8:59 amBut at the library I check out all the lib spew I can stomach and try to hear the alternative argument and conspiracy theory for what they are.
Wishing you more liberal fun and games….
Comment by mighty aphrodite #413
Lying bi*tch/basta*d...
You can't handle the TRUTH!
June 12th, 2006 at 9:30 amBut at the library I check out all the lib spew I can stomach and try to hear the alternative argument and conspiracy theory for what they are.
Wishing you more liberal fun and games….
Comment by mighty aphrodite #413
You lying bi*tch/basta*d...
You can't handle the TRUTH!
June 12th, 2006 at 9:31 amIt’s disgusting that this blond bitch is given the degree of attention for her biased idiot opinions and this person was only heard because he said one thing in response to 9/11.
Comment by Janie #200
Janie,
...this is the way our TREASONOUS, Bushite/corporate controlled MSM...
...shapes the "DEBATE OF HATE"...
...keeping the dumb dumber...
...inflaming the passions of the psychotic right wing race baiters and bigots...
...WASP al Cracker male privilege is at stake...
...and they're pulling out all the stops...
June 12th, 2006 at 9:40 amIs MS. Coulters name really Ann or is it Dan? The adams apple bouncing around causes some very real concern in this area (real women do not have adams apples that are visible).
June 12th, 2006 at 9:42 amComment by sangha #208
sangha,
Thanks for-ONCE AGAIN- exposing right wing inbred al Cracker, Bushite hypocrisy...
June 12th, 2006 at 9:44 ami agree that blondie is a nut case, but she is needed "out there" to remind everyone what the right wing of the rep. party is truly like...shuting her up, shuts them up and their words and ideas must be heard no matter how ugly so (hopefully) she will continue to speak for the right to show how wrong they are....
June 12th, 2006 at 10:05 amThere is a crucial point that I have often failed to see mentioned in any of the blog postings concerning Coulter's "Today Show" interview. Watch the clip again and note how many times she fits in the phrase "in the book". Her entire approach is all about the dollars! The more outrageous she gets, the more copies she sells....
June 12th, 2006 at 10:33 amThis is a perfect example of the conservative republicans penchant, obsession actually, to never, ever, break ranks and police their own, solidarity seems to be the raison de etre, and it is hurting the semi-responsible one who I at least respect despite my disagreements on policy. From the republican congress, to the administrations politburo, this is just an example of situation normal.
June 12th, 2006 at 10:38 amWorf, as far as I can tell there are about 4 people in here who like you, and even believe you (because they like you.)
I descended to your level yesterday deliberately to demonstrate my point.
Since I stopped writing, stopped providing you with someone to point to and say "Look how awful he is" the tide has turned again and most people are irritated by you and ignore you.
There are a few exceptions, but hopefully you will see that my participating in a tit for tat with you yesterday definitely undermined any credibility I may have had.
Your point about getting upset and fighting is right. But isn't it better to fight a good fight against real issues like: NSA wiretaps; tax cuts for the wealthy; Haydn taking over the CIA; Haditha and the iceberg of death it hints at; lies about WMD; psy-ops/Zarqawi; fake news stories planted in our and Iraqi media; lies about bin Laden; lies about 9/11...
You see, fighting about coulter is stupid, and it makes you no better.
Fighting about relative nothingness is a distraction, and dilutes the power that the left can have.
But I'm still not sure you're really concerned about a progressive left, largely because of your behavior.
I see that once I stopped being your foil, pretty quickly, except for your ditto heads, most people on this post were not on your side. Many people said the same thing I was saying.
From this point on, I will continue to ignore anything you say, because, you see, you are really no better than coulter, even if your politics differ.
June 12th, 2006 at 10:49 am"power that the left can have."
Hahaha......You're funny, no seriously, the left with power? Hahaha..
The left is dead, the unions are dead, and the democrats are pussies. Or maybe I'm just pessimistic, and like comma splices.....errr.....
June 12th, 2006 at 11:40 amEvery time the Dems mention the Republican part; they should call it the party of Ann Coulter. The Republicans use this device. "The party of Michael Moore", etc. You get kicked in the balls so many times, until you realize that it's time to fight dirty.
June 12th, 2006 at 11:46 amShe's right, of course. Once you put yourself into the political arena, you are fair game. Too late to say: "but I'm a 9/11 widow, you can't talk to me that way[sob] you big bully!" Tough titty, ladies....
June 12th, 2006 at 12:20 pmLooks like the paid trolls either love Man Coulter, or are getting paid over time to try to spin the ridiculous.
Anyway, ever notice that Man Coulter's hands, much like the adams apple are strangely large and sturdy? One could say that her hands just got that way from choking small animals, but I think it is 'cauze .......
Dude looks like a lady.... dude looks like a lady.
Look at Man Coulter's voter application, there is a huge blank around the sex question. Either Man Coulter was afraid to check both, or as we suspect.....
Dude looks like a lady... dude looks like a lady.
Ann, Ann, She's Our Man, If She can't bitch, no one can.
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June 12th, 2006 at 12:34 pmSorry, that should have been
Ann, Ann is a Man, if he can't bitch no one can.
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June 12th, 2006 at 12:38 pm#435 &&&& 436 - "….In all my travels I have yet to meet a Republican woman with a heart." - George Applegate
June 12th, 2006 at 1:42 pm****Poor George - you must not get out much. How do you KNOW the heartless women you meet are Repubs.? It might feeeeel that way as prog gals seem to wear their heart and anger all over their sleeves and faces....Don't worry, we Repub women aren't going to be on the prowl for the vast majority of prog-men. Repub women don't want to feminize our men - we have enough girlfriends.....
Your point about getting upset and fighting is right
Comment by Ken Crybaby — June 12, 2006 @ 10:49 am
Do me a favor there slappy.
Don't try to define my points. A, you suck at it, and B you haven't got a clue about what my points are.
Getting upset is your schtick schmuck. Not mine.
June 12th, 2006 at 2:27 pmWorf, as far as I can tell there are about 4 people in here who like you,
Comment by Ken Crybaby — June 12, 2006 @ 10:49 am
Well I guess you won't be buying my book then, "How to win friends and influence people"?
June 12th, 2006 at 2:29 pmI descended to your level yesterday deliberately to demonstrate my point.
Comment by Ken Crybaby — June 12, 2006 @ 10:49 am
Oh is that what you were doing?
Thanks for clearing that up, cause I was afraid you were going to blow a gasket there for a while.
June 12th, 2006 at 2:32 pmFighting about relative nothingness is a distraction, and dilutes the power that the left can have
Comment by Ken Crybaby — June 12, 2006 @ 10:49 am
Can't fault you there. Because your position that we should "do nothing" when Ann Coulter insults the widows of 911, just because they happen to disagree with her is about the weakest thing I could think of.
You're absolutely right. That kind of wimpy "lets play nice" crapola dilutes the power the left can have.
Well said wimp.
June 12th, 2006 at 2:36 pmYou see, fighting about coulter is stupid, and it makes you no better.
Comment by Ken Crybaby — June 12, 2006 @ 10:49 am
Fighting is not the word your looking for Ken. See fighting, well thats where people throw fists, bullets and bombs. People get hurt from fighting.
This is more accurately referred to as, "writing" and using "satire" to make a point.
While I'm sure this is fighting to the wimps in your neighborhood, but this doesn't even qualify as wrestling in mine.
Satire.
Its a bitch.
June 12th, 2006 at 2:41 pmFrom this point on, I will continue to ignore anything you say.
Comment by Ken Daves — June 12, 2006 @ 10:49 am
Outstanding.
Let me know how that works out for you.
June 12th, 2006 at 2:43 pmRepub women don’t want to feminize our men
Comment by mighty aphrodite — June 12, 2006 @ 1:42 pm
I know what you mean.
Its hard to feminize, or even educate a guy with one eyebrow (straight across) and a vocabulary limited to "git'r done" and a lot of "yups" and "shucks".
But they do make great laborers.
Just look at Bush?
Not much of a President, but he's great at pulling weeds.
June 12th, 2006 at 3:02 pmMighty Aphrodite--Even this transplanted Midwesterner knows what you are talking about. Real women don't want the Alan Alda/metrosexual types that the media glorifies. When I'm out with a lady, my 6ft, 350lb frame makes her feel protected. Later, she gets the benefit of my gentle, slow, strong moves as I take her to Nirvana.
June 12th, 2006 at 4:16 pmHow could Carville be married to her?
June 12th, 2006 at 4:44 pmWhen I’m out with a lady, my 6ft, 350lb frame makes her feel protected
Comment by Fred — June 12, 2006 @ 4:16 pm
Or smothered.
June 12th, 2006 at 7:13 pmFlavius--jealousy is so ugly! Don't hate me because I'm bigger than you and could squash you like a bug. Hate me because women like a big man over little pencil-necked geeks. Of course, women also prefer a man like me that pleasures them in every way imaginable...but that's a story for another day.
June 12th, 2006 at 7:26 pmA, you have no idea what my size is, and b, like Tuco said in the Good, the Bad and the Ugly, I like big fat men, because they make more noise when they fall down.
Blow me asswipe. You're probably Linda, lol.
June 12th, 2006 at 8:04 pmTonight (Monday, 6/12/06) the cable shows were full of the Ann Coulter
story. Featured on Larry King, Scarborough, was the clip of her spewing forth her
hateful statements made on the Today Show with Matt Lauer. Larry King featured
several 911 widows on his show.
On Scarborough's Show, one commentator made such an interesting comment, I
wanted you people out here on the Internet to hear it. He said, "What
does Ann Coulter know of a loving relationship with a man and having kids with
him compared to these 911 widows? Her relationships never last longer than the gestation period of a fly?"
He further said,"How upset could she be with the loss of a loved one, when the time involved
in the relationship was only one night from a one night stand?
My theory is that Ann Coulter is a frustrated freaky looking woman who resents
women who have real lives with real relationships! Also, she searches for love and
acceptance from Right Wing groupees who adore her every hateful word!
What's interesting to me is...
Ann Coulter with her prominent Adam's Apple and gangly body walks around
thinking she is "hot stuff", and frankly, I think she is ugly as sin! Yuk! Someone
should tell her that she is not attractive physically or mentally. In fact, she is
on the freaky side, poor thing!
It must be nice to make millions of dollars writing hateful, vicious books
and simultaneously expressing her love of God (who is on her side, of course. Oh I forgot, God is on Bush's side, too!
Coulter and Bush are both off their rockers, in my opinion!
June 13th, 2006 at 12:35 amSIGNED A LIBERAL WHO IS NOT GODLESS AND SUPPORTS OUR TROOPS, YET DENOUNCES THIS STUPID IRAQ WAR!!!
Theres only one thing that Coulters mad about when it comes to these widows, and thats that they're speaking out for the Democrats instead of the republicans.
If these ladies were supporting the war and the President, is there anyone here who honestly believes she would not be singing their praises?
Coulters not mad that they're speaking out.
She's mad that they're speaking out and they don't agree with her.
June 13th, 2006 at 2:42 amTheres only one thing that Coulters mad about when it comes to these widows, and thats that they're speaking out for the Democrats instead of the republicans.
If these ladies were supporting the war and the President, is there anyone here who honestly believes she would not be singing their praises?
She'd be tauting them as patriotic heroes.
Coulters not mad that they're speaking out.
She's just mad that they don't happen to agree with her.
June 13th, 2006 at 2:46 amReal women don’t want the Alan Alda/metrosexual types that the media glorifies. When I’m out with a lady, my 6ft, 350lb frame makes her feel protected.
comment by Fred
Why is it that the Repugs seem to have a penchant for overweight men: Dickhead Cheney, Karl Rove, Dennis Hastert, Bill Bennett, the outgoing CEO of Exxon-Mobil, and now Fred?
June 13th, 2006 at 3:54 amAnd, Fred, I don't know what you mean by "real women" if you think they should have protruding Adam's apples and shapeless legs like Ann-thrax Coulter. For your reference, I lack the protruding Adam's apple and have been frequently complimented on my shapely legs; no one would ever mistake me for a man. Everyone's certainly entitled to their own taste, and I wouldn't doubt that some women like your huge frame. But for me, no thanks to a 350-pounder.
I don't care if Illuminati member Mary Matalin sticks up for Coulter and her Ilk. They are all in the same nest as far as I am concerned...
Maybe Kay Griggs has dirt on them, too...
BTW, Man, this Website has more Trolls than medieval literature!
Maybe THIS is what we should be concerning ourselves with. The Enemy is within the gates...
More from http://www.tbrnews.org
Note: There is excellent reason to believe that the Department of Defense is deliberately not reporting a significant number of the dead in Iraq. We have received copies of manifests from the MATS that show far more bodies shipped into Dover AFP than are reported officially. The actual death toll is in excess of 10,000. (See the official records at the end of this piece.) Given the officially acknowledged number of over 15,000 seriously wounded (and a published total of 25,000 wounded overall,), this elevated death toll is far more realistic than the current 2,000+ now being officially published. When our research is complete, and watertight, we will publish the results along with the sources In addition to the evident falsification of the death rolls, at least 5,500 American military personnel have deserted, most in Ireland but more have escaped to Canada and other European countries, none of whom are inclined to cooperate with vengeful American authorities. (See TBR News of 18 February for full coverage on the mass desertions) This means that of the 158,000 U.S. military shipped to Iraq, 26,000 deserted, were killed or seriously wounded. The DoD lists currently being very quietly circulated indicate over12,000 dead, over 25,000 seriously wounded and a large number of suicides, forced hospitalization for ongoing drug usage and sales, murder of Iraqi civilians and fellow soldiers, rapes, courts martial and so on -
The government gets away with these huge lies because they claim, falsely, that only soldiers actually killed on the ground in Iraq are reported. The dying and critically wounded are listed as en route to military hospitals outside of the country and not reported on the daily postings. Anyone who dies just as the transport takes off from the Baghdad airport is not listed and neither are those who die in the US military hospitals. Their families are certainly notified that their son, husband, brother or lover was dead and the bodies, or what is left of them (refrigeration is very bad in Iraq what with constant power outages) are shipped home, to Dover AFB. This, we note, was the overall policy until very recently. Since it became well known that many had died at Landstuhl, in Germany, the DoD began to list a very few soldiers who had died at other non-theater locations. These numbers are only for show and are pathetically small in relationship to the actual figures (which we are now publishing.) You ought to realize that President Bush personally ordered that no pictures be taken of the coffined and flag-draped dead under any circumstances. He claims that this is to comfort the bereaved relatives but is designed to keep the huge number of arriving bodies secret. Any civilian, or military personnel, taking pictures will be jailed at once and prosecuted. Bush has never attended any kind of a memorial service for his dead soldiers and never will. He is terrified some parent might curse him in front of the press or, worse, attack him. As Bush is a terrible physical coward and in a constant state of denial, this is not a surprise.
Haven’t we had enough of this? (According to our email, 95% of our viewers’ responses to Mr. Harring’s explosive investigations have commented that they have certainly had enough. We have also been flooded with additions to the casualty lists that have to be carefully checked before a future posting. Ed)
How about a change in the law: When Chickenhawks (or anyone else, for that matter) want to send anyone into battle, they start with THEIR children, nephews, nieces, grandchildren, etc. etc... I have a feeling things would be more in line with George Washington's advice that we should not be involved in foreign entanglements...
We have utterly, utterly co-opted...
June 13th, 2006 at 5:05 amFlavius–jealousy is so ugly! Don’t hate me because I’m bigger than you and could squash you like a bug.
Comment by Fred #517
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!
...one simply CAN'T make this sh*t up...
...Freaky (Fred) sounds just like...
...Larry Mondello...
...the "little" calorically challenged bully on "Leave It To Beaver"...
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahha!!!
"(I ) pleasure them in every way imaginable?"
...you can bet THIS mofo has a problem gettin' it up...
...with women that is...
June 13th, 2006 at 9:42 amI wondered about the getting it up part Big Papa, also.
After all, he went out of his way to point out his "alternate" talents, lmao.
June 13th, 2006 at 12:15 pmShe looks, and sounds just like a witch, could she be. She never has anything positive to say. Even when she's talking about her clients, she's snarling and angry.
June 13th, 2006 at 11:36 pmWatch it there! You're giving witches a bad name!
June 14th, 2006 at 10:39 amCan anyone tell me who might have read Ann Coulter's book - what horrible things did these widows say to incur her wrath? Does her book present any specific arguments against them? I am only curious to ask here, certainly not curious enough to buy her book. Her public appearances simply seem to be mud-slinging. Why? And now this Mary Matilin. Why are these Republican women so very bitter.
If they argue the political views of the widows, then address it specifically!!
Are the Republican widows of 9/11 also the same happy widow - harpies they claim the Democrats to be. They too have been politically vocal. Is it good for one party, but not the other?
The widows have certainly opened themselves up to debate, but no one deserves to be accused of being happy about their husband's death. That's not an argument or debate. That's simply cheap shots. I'm sad for the children of those widows to hear their mothers referred to with such contempt. Unlike Ann Coulter, most of us do not wear the contempt of others like badges of honor.
June 17th, 2006 at 11:29 pmSlander: Liberal Lies About the American Right
Treason: Liberal Treachery from the Cold War to the War on Terrorism
How to Talk to a Liberal (If You Must)
Godless: The Church of Liberalism
The above are Ann Coulter book titles. Does this woman have a one-track mind? She's like a pit bull with her teeth sunken in to flesh.
Read up on her. She hates everyone except rich white men. She doesn't even believe women should have the right to vote. She believes in Apartheid. She claims the Episcopal Church is not a real church. OK, now I'm convinced, this woman is a nut case!!
June 17th, 2006 at 11:55 pmSomeone should come forth and tell Ann Coulter she is
June 19th, 2006 at 12:47 ama very ugly woman inside and out!!! She struts around
portraying herself as a raving beauty! I have news for her!
Ha ha ha.... you liberals are really something else!!! Really Emotional, with a minimal amount of logical thought.
Michael Moore owns you!!!!!!!!!!!
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