Courtesy of ThinkProgress by way of neo-sometimeycon Andrew Sullivan, The National Review’s John Derbyshire engages in a little bit of “truthiness”:…

Comment by Krazny #3

Krazny,

…FINALLY sees the light…

Mike Corbeil
Candian-American-Canadian (which makes me American three times over, given Canada can also call itself America, as can also all countries of South America)

I might possibly differ in some respects, but overall surely minor, for I agree with his main logic, that withdrawal, not only redeployment, is what is NECESSARY.

NOW, what is all the off-topic NONSENSE about Americans being market pigs, of multiple TV sets, computers, cars, and so on, what the hell does that have to do with discussing whether or not the US MUST WITHDRAW from Iraq! It has nothing to do with it, is the real answer, the really valid one, that is. Meanwhile, it does provide us with another answer, which is not an answer but, instead, an illustration of how morally devoid, hellishly selfish Americans are in too far great numbers. War cannot be justified based on your assinine selfish wants, and it can’t be justified even for needs; except the need of applying self-defence or defence when criminally aggressed.

But it’d be interesting to see or hear or read about Bush et al using that hellbent argument. They are hellbent, about as extremely as humans can get, but they’re careful in their political statements, and they have not yet used one of the above nature, which IDIOTS and indeed morally DEVOID people, or moral DEVOIDS, produced here.

And those people just made it clear that they are also WAR CRIMINALS; trying to justify war of entirely criminal and hellbent aggression based on such assinine selfish wants, which would not be wants at all, if these idiots were sane. There is such a thing as a person being both idiot and sane, like people who are a bit too simpletonian, but all while being able to discern the difference between right and WRONG, and always siding with the former, RIGHT. These idiots here are not sane though; they are WAR CRIMINALS, right in league with the rest of the leaders of this hell’s reign on earth.

I’d call them SCHMUCKS, but this might not be accepted here, so ….

Mike Corbeil
Canadian-American-Canadian

We have earned to be cut off from their oil. That was one of the dangers bush accepted when he went into Iraq under complete lies.

If he refused to talk about oil as a reason, we couldn’t get the media to discuss oil at all, so we weren’t able to have a public debate about all the possible outcomes.

As long as we are in Iraq, we cannot hope that they will put down their arms. That’s a little like the Israelis standing in the occupied territories and saying, okay, put down your arms and we’ll stay only a little longer.

We have lost all credibility and the only option is an immediate withdrawal to other bases throughout the region but ONLY so that we may be on call to help with rebuilding at the request of WHATEVER government is established in Iraq by Iraqis.

Anything else is just pie in the sky.

You must generate electricity from fuel, just like you must generate Hydrogen from fuel. While you could argue that Hydrogen and Electricity are fuel, they are not the fuel source – and therefore are more readily described as battery/storage mediums.

You do not generate hydrogen out of fuels. Hydrogen is an element that must be extracted from compounds that contain it. Water, for example by electrolysis. Electricity is not a fuel, it is an energy flow in the form of moving charges through a conductor. Once, hydrogen is obtained it can be used as a fuel, because it can burn (see blimp Hindenburg), it can stored energy due to its high specific heat capacity, it can be transported through ducts underground to stations, pretty much like gasoline. So, in sum, wind, solar, tidal, wave, geothermal, biomass are renewable energy sources (RES). Hydrogen is not. (I know you did not say so, I am just summarizing) Hydrogen have to burn in order to be useful OR it can be used in fuel cells, which is the most friendly of all the applications I can think of involving hydrogen. Now, solar concentration can dissociate water molecule to obtain hydrogen, so, some RES can be used to get hydrogen, but as you say it can be really complicated and unpractical.
I know, I am being picky and I really like everything you post. I get excited about this issue. Dont take this offensively.

I just prefer to have the free market system take care of it.

Comment by Jerad

You are but a low employee that promotes big companies for nothing. When free market system take control of everything, you wont have anything to claim of your own, as contradictory as it may sound. The whole porpuse of capitalism is to accumulate wealth…and guess what? you wont be that guy. You support a system that excludes you. You cant be that stupid.

They will, and they have, stooped to the lowest levels of human dung, they are bottom feeders supreme. Scum of this earth. Most of them wear womens underwear.

No, we will continue to use oil until it gets so expensive it wrecks the economy, at which point nobody will have any spare capital to spend on R&D.

I just prefer to have the free market system take care of it.

Or we could just go back to discussing how great it would be for all of us to right mules to work instead of SUV’s. Discussion is fun, but it won’t just happen out of magic pixy dust (It ain’t the 60’s anymore :) ).

That is just logic though.

That is selfish and stupid. It has nothing to do with logic. I dont see the silogism there.