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Malkin On Detainee Suicides: ‘Boo-Freakin-Hoo’»

Yesterday on Fox News, Michelle Malkin mocked the suicides of three Guantanamo Bay detainees. Her reaction was so out-of-line that even O’Reilly took exception. Watch it:

    Full transcript below:

    MALKIN: And really, the reaction to the suicides should be, “Boo-freakin-hoo.”

    O’REILLY: Well, I don’t know about that. I don’t want anybody, you know, killing themselves, but I do believe it was a political statement. Anyway —

    MALKIN: Exactly.

    O’REILLY: If I were in Guantanamo Bay, and I couldn’t get out — and these guys will never get out, believe me — I might commit suicide too.

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    366 Responses to “Malkin On Detainee Suicides: ‘Boo-Freakin-Hoo’”


    1. blogenfreude Says:

      Quick, somebody lock O’Reilly up …


    2. Chris Says:

      I agree with Malkin’s comments what are we to expect from people who will do anything to kill us and die for their cause if they want to kill themselves then by no means should we stand in the way just let them do it, thats one less detainee they have to deal with down there.

      People are crazy to think we need to be trying these people in US Courts, they are Not US Citizens therefore they have Zero rights and if anyone thinks otherwise is flat out wrong.

      My question to all of those who think that is do you really think if a US Soldier were taken prisoner in a radical middle eastern country would they be treated the same way we have treated these individuals at Gitmo?..The answer is no they would be tortured and some probably killed but no one who champions for human rights would care about that, instead your all worried about torturing some foreigner about information on terrorist activity.

      So in closing I agree with Malkin when I say Boo Freakin Hoo….


    3. Badmoodman Says:

      Are there any serious adults running Fox News? Anyone…..?


    4. Ugh Says:

      they are Not US Citizens therefore they have Zero rights and if anyone thinks otherwise is flat out wrong.

      Obviously you’ve never read the Constitution, try it some time.


    5. Don Says:

      The real problem is that there is no guarantee that the detainees are even guilty of anything. I hope some foreign government arrests Malkin overseas and holds her for 3 years without charging her with anything or access to a lawyer.


    6. PointMan12 Says:

      I’m sure glad there is a safe place on the internet for us to go where we can find comfort amongst friends who share our sorrow for the poor terrorists who choose to kill themselves rather than go through torture at the hands of our evil dictator - Bush. Just because they elected to all reach their wits end at exactly the same time and in exactly in the same manner does not mean that it was a coordinated effort to stick it to their mortal enemy - Us. Sacrificing their own lives to further their cause is something that these poor lost Nomads that were rounded up in the desert on their way to prayers would never conceive of doing. This is the last straw. If Bush doesn’t do exactly what the terrorists want and shut down Gitmo then he should be impeached!


    7. Punchy Says:

      If I were in Guantanamo Bay, and I couldn’t get out — and these guys will never get out,

      Uh….one was scheduled to be released, O’LIElly. To get out. Ready and able to go home. But they never told him.

      Un-effin’-believable.


    8. bob Says:

      who clipped the still for this post? it’s very good. i can almost see the chrome from my trailer hitch.


    9. s Says:

      Disgraceful, vugar, immoral woman


    10. Chris Says:

      why is it whenever you refer to Malkin and Coulter you use terms like “hermaphrodite” and such?? I thought hermaphrodites and queers and other sexual degenerates were like heroes to you leftards??
      There must be some good adults runningFox because they far and away have the best ratings of any news on TV.
      why is it you leftist traitors here mourn over a few less terrorist scumbags but don’t really care when ourservicemen are killed. Well you only care when US troops are killed to further your anti -war stance.
      they ought to change the name of this forum to “Think Traitor” for all the anti- American dirtbags here.
      I HAVE read the US Constitution- I just read the original version not the abridged liberal/progressive version that states you can change it to suit your leftist agenda. Besides the Constitution only protects Americans on American soil.


    11. Parrotlover77 Says:

      O’Reilly almost sounded like he might have a microscopic amount of compassion. This is confusing me. Is it opposite day?


    12. Matt O. Says:

      Michelle Malkin is a disgrace to humankind.


    13. Chase Says:

      Punchy - Wrong. He wasn’t going “home” as in back to his house, bomb vests and Soviet SAAMs - he was going to be transferred to Saudi Arabia to sit in jail.

      Truth be told (and I know it can’t here) he was probably better off in Gitmo than in Saudi prison. At the very least, every lib human rights org on earth is watching Gitmo with an eagle eye.

      These guys were terrorists, plain and simple. They killed themselves primarily to make a political statement. Read their bios - these aren’t guys rounded up without cause in Detroit or London. These were actual(!!!) Western Democracy hating terrorists.


    14. David Says:

      To Chris and Ugh,

      I think your morale compass is broken, go back to your playground.


    15. Anon1 Says:

      Chris, the problem is that you just buy into anything this adminstration throws at you. They say these guys are locked up because they are guilty of something, and you believe it, just like you probably believe anything your minister or priest says. Is it possible that many of these people have done nothing? The answer is yes. In that case, they deserve to be tried. If we don’t have any evidence of wrongdoing, then they go free. It’s really that simple.

      How can you look at yourself in the mirror every day knowing that you allow others to shape your opinions. Get some courage!


    16. Keith H. Says:

      Newk Fux Newz for Sheep Now.


    17. Zookeeper Says:

      What more can I say?
      Malkin makes BO look sympathetic - the apocalypse is now.

      CAPTION CONTEST!


    18. Mr. Evil Says:

      She’s trying to compete with Ann Coulter for the ‘Evil, Wicked, High Priestess Of Misery From Which There Is No Escape’ title.


    19. cynicalgirl Says:

      #3, Chris, why do you hate the Constitution?


    20. Anon1 Says:

      Oh, and Chris, we’re not traitors. The best form of patriotism is to question idiotic political policies. Now go away and leave the discussion to the adults.

      Bastard.


    21. MrTimPA Says:

      Shades of The Wizard of Oz - could someone toss a bucket of water on her? Sheesh.


    22. GSD Says:

      It is amazing how simply robotic right wingers are when it comes to glomming onto spin phrases…..”This was a political statement”….Maybe it was, maybe it was 3 men who knew that they were never going to get any legal redress and decided to make an exit.

      Just like the Coulter hubub…..How many wingers have adopted the “larger point” meme? “Sure the attack on the widows was provacative, but “THE LARGER POINT” is that the liberals always offer up victims.

      This angle of argument coming from a party and a Whitehouse that put into place Tony Snow “a cancer survivor” who broke down into tears on his first day on the job talking about his cancer….From the party and Whitehouse that used a young girl who’s father was killed in Iraq as a campaign commercial…from the party that nominated Bob Dole, wounded and maimed in WWII as a presidential candidate.

      Now we have “Christian” Michelle Malkin, who’s reaction to a suicide is “boo-freakin-hoo”. Michelle must have forgotten Jesus when he said: “What you do to the least of mine, you do to me.”

      To any supposed Christians, I bet that Jesus’ compassion would extend to those in Gitmo.

      -GSD


    23. Retired Republican Soldier Says:

      It’s too bad that three prisoners hung themselves, can I send the other four hundred some rope?


    24. PointMan12 Says:

      Anon1, the problem is that you just buy into the fact that anything that this administration throws at you is lies and of evil intent. Anything! You think that just because they say that many of these inmates are not guilty of anything at all, and you believe it, just like you probably believe anything that comes out of Al Gore’s travel weary lips. If you ever wanted evidence of the guilt of these three individuals it can be found in their orchestrated Broadway production of “Death of a Jihad’sman”. What person not bent on destroying all that is Western join such a demonstration? It’s really that simple.

      How can you look at yourself in the mirror every day knowing that you allow others to shape your opinions? Get some courage!


    25. jane troll Says:

      i had no compassion for them until they hung themselves. now, i compassionatly wish they would all follow


    26. Zwack Says:

      Chris,

      You obviously haven’t read the constitution. There is this small section known as the Bill of Rights….

      That includes bits like this…

      Amendment IV

      The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

      Amendment V

      No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a grand jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the militia, when in actual service in time of war or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offense to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.

      Amendment VI

      In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury of the state and district wherein the crime shall have been committed, which district shall have been previously ascertained by law, and to be informed of the nature and cause of the accusation; to be confronted with the witnesses against him; to have compulsory process for obtaining witnesses in his favor, and to have the assistance of counsel for his defense.

      See what that says? Notice it uses the term “PERSON” not “CITIZEN”. The distinction is clear… No Person means NOBODY. No Citizen would mean No person who is a citizen. The framers of the constitution must have understood the difference because in Article II we find this…

      No person except a natural born citizen, or a citizen of the United States, at the time of the adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the office of President; neither shall any person be eligible to that office who shall not have attained to the age of thirty five years, and been fourteen Years a resident within the United States.

      If they had meant “No Citizen” then they would have said “No Citizen” The difference is clear.

      So, if you don’t mind being held, without charge, indefinitely, that’s fine… But don’t impose your will on others.

      And as for Michelle Malkin… WTF… She’s a Political Analyst? Doesn’t Analysis require critical thinking?

      Z.


    27. NewNameAcquired Says:

      #11… You said, “why is it you leftist traitors here mourn over a few less terrorist scumbags but don’t really care when ourservicemen are killed.” Please, point me to a single post where one of us said we did not care about a soldiers death. Also, point me to the proof that the men who commited suicide were actually terrorists.


    28. Smack Says:

      Are the ‘detainees’ human beings with certain rights or not? Thats the question you need to ask yourself. If you answer no, then you follow in the footsteps of every tyrant in history that seeks to dehumanize thier enemy. If you answer no, you are the mortal enemy of true Americans. There is no debate here. Its a fact.


    29. PointMan12 Says:

      There you are folks…the US Constitution is enforceable on all citizens of the world. And they say Bush pushes his ill-gotten notion of democracy on other nations. This Chris has the new world order all worked out.


    30. unbelievable Says:

      they are Not US Citizens therefore they have Zero rights and if anyone thinks otherwise is flat out wrong.

      How about their rights as living beings?

      Well, we’re letting polar bears cannibalize themselves, and we certainly know that polar bears are a much higher priority on the neocons’ list of things to let live than people of ethinicty.

      Makes Michelle Mouthpiece a really vile hypocrite…


    31. jane troll Says:

      the bill of rights was written for and about american citizens. the two words you speak of can be used at anytime, always referring to americans only.

      not combatants in any other country.

      how pathetic


    32. David Says:

      To all you holier-than-thou people who like to pass judgement on people without knowing all the facts, the fact that America had due process was one of the things that made America great. Know we are just a country that wants to bully, lie, cheat and steal our way to power or to keep what limited power we have left in the world in our grasp.

      Regardless to what degree these prisoner were involved in terrorism, they should be treated fairly and humanely.

      We are fighting a war against an idea, it cannot be won with torturing and confining people without giving them some way to prove themselves innocent.


    33. NewNameAcquired Says:

      #27… I think what Chris was saying was that he read the constitution without the amendments. He said “I HAVE read the US Constitution- I just read the original version not the abridged liberal/progressive version that states you can change it to suit your leftist agenda.” So I assume that means leaving out all the Amendments.


    34. Ugh Says:

      #27 - I guess that must be the “abridged liberal/progressive version” that Chris is referring to, presumably including the 13th Amendment as well.


    35. unbelievable Says:

      Weren’t her parents born OUTSIDE the US (Phillipines)… I hate to think how she treats them…


    36. Willy Says:

      Wow! As the trolls on this thread confirm. The right have no morals. And this is from a group, most of whom, consider themselves to be “good, decent” Christians. I can smell the hypocrisy reeking from them all the way through my computer.


    37. Smack Says:

      We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.

      I believe this explicitly includes ALL MEN! Do you believe that or not?


    38. unbelievable Says:

      CAPTION CONTEST!
      Comment by Zookeeper — June 13, 2006 @ 12:10 pm

      I can’t come up with anything civil…


    39. jane troll Says:

      i know 3 dudes at gitmo that wont be flying any planes into anything - ever


    40. Ugh Says:

      i know 3 dudes at gitmo that wont be flying any planes into anything - ever

      You’re still available for such duty, unfortunately.


    41. Smack Says:

      Jane - for all your venom, you might as well asume they already flew planes into buildings. What do you really know about the prisoners in gitmo? What can we know about them when they are not even allowed to plead thier case? They have no rights, not even those afforded to prisoners of war. How do you justify that as an american? You cannot, because it is UNAMERICAN.


    42. Ugh Says:

      i know 3 dudes at gitmo that wont be flying any planes into anything - ever

      You’re still available.


    43. jane troll Says:

      that all you got?


    44. unbelievable Says:

      i know 3 dudes at gitmo that wont be flying any planes into anything - ever
      Comment by jane troll — June 13, 2006 @ 12:35 pm

      What, because jail wasn’t already stopping them from doing that?


    45. Jim Says:

      Is there some sort of Who-Can-Spout-The-Most-Hate Contest between Malkin and Coulter? Or are these two actually the same person but with two different personae; a woman and a drag queen?


    46. jane troll Says:

      three empty ropes at gitmo available, no waiting


    47. Zwack Says:

      the bill of rights was written for and about american citizens. the two words you speak of can be used at anytime, always referring to americans only.

      not combatants in any other country.

      how pathetic

      Comment by jane troll — June 13, 2006 @ 12:29 pm

      Indeed you are if you feel that you have to defend this sort of thing…

      The Bill of Rights (and the entire constitution) did not distinguish between Citizens and non-citizens for a very good reason… The disctinction was exceptionally arbitrary at the time.

      The British Government refused to allow anyone to give up citizenship until the middle of the 19th century. Thus if you were born British you could always be tried (or conscripted, or shanghaied) as a British Citizen. Anyone who was a “British Citizen” in America before the revolution was still considered by the British to be a British Citizen. Given that the constitution uses both People/Person and Citizen and DRAWS A DISTINCTION between them it is not surprising that the courts have found in the past that the two terms are not indistinguishable.

      Z.


    48. David Says:

      To Jane Troll:

      Don’t worry about them terrorist, your rights are eroding away pretty fast, maybe one day you can join them and hang yourself.


    49. NewNameAcquired Says:

      This administration LOVES trolls like Jane. All they have to do is dress up brown skinned people from an area where we are creating terrorists…. and lock them up and SAY they are terrorists. That seems to be all these idiot trolls need to come to a conclusion.

      It doesn’t matter what you trolls say… you DON’T know the facts. You DON’T know if they are terrorists or not.

      None of us here are saying any of the men who committed suicide WERE innocent. We are only asking for fair trials for all, because it doesn’t matter where you live in this world, we believe you are innocent until proven guilty.


    50. jane troll Says:

      i gotta feeling i know which one jim has a crush on. come on out jim. we will support you


    51. RunningDogLackey Says:

      My fave is O’Reilly dismissing their suicides as a “political statement.” That’s almost as good as the Administration spokesperson who decribed the suicides as a calculate act of asymmetrical warfare. As a nation, we’re nuts.

      Americans have become as callous and bloodthirsty as our enemies. We were supposed to stand for something better than that, but we don’t anymore. Too many of our “Christians” and “patriots” have decided its OK to be a feral mob of flag-waving psychos.


    52. katy Says:

      i know 3 dudes at gitmo that wont be flying any planes into anything - ever
      Comment by jane troll — June 13, 2006 @ 12:35 pm

      i’d think the cia, fbi, nsa, etc should know about that -
      turn yourself in?


    53. David Says:

      Jane troll is probaly guy, to scared to post his real name. LOL.


    54. Smack Says:

      Jane, you ignorant slut.

      You’re a sickness in America and your type must be fought. You think you’re a patriot but you dont stand for anything American. You delight in the deaths of other human beings, judging them guilty without the benefit of trial. You condone the illegal and immoral imprisonment of human beings without trial, tribunal and without representation. You are anything but American. You’re a NAZI.


    55. jane troll Says:

      zwack, give it up ol’buddy. they dont call it the american bill of rights for nothing


    56. jane troll Says:

      that it little smack boy. turn your hatred toward me. i love it. i can take it


    57. David Says:

      Jane, maybe you wouldn’t be so uncaring if you got laid once in a while.


    58. Keith H. Says:

      And now you do what they told ya, now you’re under control
      And now you do what they told ya, now you’re under control
      And now you do what they told ya, now you’re under control
      And now you do what they told ya, now you’re under control
      And now you do what they told ya, now you’re under control
      And now you do what they told ya, now you’re under control
      And now you do what they told ya, now you’re under control
      And now you do what they told ya!


    59. Anon1 Says:

      PointMan

      No. Again you’re wrong. I question everyone, right and left. I do my own research, I butter my own toast, thank you very much. And when wer’re talking about liberal policies, then I’ll quesiton that as well on this board. But, little boy, we’re talking about Gitmo, and Bush’s policies. So the opportunity is not before me.

      And when I look in the mirror, little one, I’m just fine. Nice try, though.


    60. Smack Says:

      You’re a sociopath, Jane. You should admit yourself to the nearest mental health facility.


    61. jane troll Says:

      yeah ok katy, i’ll let em know about those hangings. yeah katy your’e right they probably don’t yet. good job katy. (bless her heart)


    62. Speed Says:

      Chris is yet another scoundrel who has found his last refuge.


    63. jane troll Says:

      poor little woman hating david.


    64. David Says:

      Remember people,

      “Don’t feed the Trolls”.


    65. Zwack Says:

      Jane….

      I am not now, nor have I ever been your buddy. I am not particularly old either…

      And uh… it’s known as “The Bill Of Rights” NOT “The American Bill Of Rights”…

      Try a Google search on both terms. You’ll find 6,100,000 entries for “The Bill of Rights” but only 33,800 entries for “The American Bill Of Rights”

      Even more telling is the top link…

      The Bill of Rights
      THE BILL OF RIGHTS Amendments 1-10 of the Constitution. The Conventions of a number of the States having, at the time of adopting the Constitution, …
      usinfo.state.gov/usa/infousa/facts/funddocs/billeng.htm - 6k - Cached - Similar pages

      Yes, the US Government calls it “The Bill of Rights”…

      Z.


    66. jane troll Says:

      you scared dave?


    67. David Says:

      woman hating david, LOL

      nice try - next.


    68. Jim Says:

      Trolls like dear ol’ Jane (bless her tiny little heart) are dimestore versions of Malkin/Coulter. They want to be famous for spouting hate but lack even the modicum of talent those two hags possess.

      Sad really. They’re like those kids in school who would get into trouble just to get attention. Even if it was negative.


    69. David Says:

      I am scared??????????

      whatever - next.


    70. Bruce Gorton Says:

      Jane

      This Constitution, and the laws of the United States which shall be made in pursuance thereof; and all treaties made, or which shall be made, under the authority of the United States, shall be the supreme law of the land; and the judges in every state shall be bound thereby, anything in the Constitution or laws of any State to the contrary notwithstanding.

      Now don’t the Geneva Conventions class as a treaty?


    71. Patriot Says:

      There is only one solution to the Nazis who have stolen this country from the people (and Nazi asshats like many commenting here in support of torture, murder, and the destruction of our civil liberties): Paper Ballots, Hand Counted. We must vote this scum out of office, impeach, indict, imprison or execute, and then take away the right to broadcast from Mammoth Lying Operations like Fux “news” and the other corporate media whores. All of which is moot if the Nazi nuke Iran and put in place martial law before the elections — which is very likely at this point.


    72. jane troll Says:

      dont flirt with me zwack


    73. Mr. Evil Says:

      Anyone notice at the bottom of the pic of Michelle in the ticker. Just to the right it says “Terror Alert: E”. I’m assuming “E” was to be “Elevated”. Here they come again just in time for the November elections! Your old favorite, the great American terror alert rainbow color chart!

      So, Jane Troll (whore tool), time to be afraid. They’re coming for you Jane! Feel the fear! Run, Jane, Run!!!


    74. Moderated Says:

      Moderated by Admin


    75. Sirhotspur Says:

      I think our little Michelle is bothered that Ann Coulter is getting all the negative attention and wants to make sure that people remember that there is more than one female lunatic “pundit” avail for morning junkets.


    76. jane troll Says:

      you go patriot!!! now thats what i’m talkin about.

      all your buddies here will be pulling the lever for you


    77. big johnny Says:

      Well, I thought that the Bill of Rights was designed to not only enumerate the rights inherent to the individual, but equally importantly to proscribe the power of the government. Clearly, there is not expressed authority in the Constitution that gives the government the right to hold these people without a trial or charges. That is the point of the Bill of Rights - it is a double stricutre: individuals have rights that are protected, AND the government has no basis upon which to deny those rights. That’s just what I thought.


    78. David Says:

      Jane - the first step is the hardest, admitting to yourself you have a problem.

      You know what I am talking about, like when people stop talking when you walk up to them, and quickly find something else to do to keep from socializing with you. It’s all right, its not your fault. Your just not likeable, but there is hope.


    79. jane troll Says:

      #75 — this web site has not the balls to admit it. but what you say is what they are all thinking. and this web site should be the home for that kinda crap


    80. jane troll Says:

      feed me dave. come on. dont cry


    81. questioning authority is patriotism at it's finest Says:

      I can’t beleive the inuman monsters that the bush fanatics will follow no matter what! Are they all on drugs or something (maybe the drug of ignorance perhaps)


    82. David Says:

      Jane, your probaly so fat, I couldn’t feed you enough to satisfy you.


    83. Zwack Says:

      Jane,

      If you think that that is flirting then you should get out and meet some real men once in a while. Not your sad excuse for a boyfriend who gets drunk and beats you up every Friday night. I was being civil… Which is apparently more than you can do.

      As you obviously can’t debate are delusional, and refuse to admit when you are wrong I can’t see any point in continuing this conversation.

      As William Burroughs said in his “Words of Advice for young people“…

      Do not offer sympathy to the mentally ill. Tell them firmly, “I am not paid to listen to this drivel. You are a terminal fool.”

      Z.


    84. Lyn Says:

      Chris -

      You are an ill-informed idiot.
      Have a nice day.


    85. R Says:

      Chris you are so out of line - where do you get off saying that liberals don’ t care when a serviceman is killed. You can’t say such stupid crap just to make a non-point. You know who doesn’t care about the men/women in military — people like YOU!! The administration aka war criminals sent mostly kids off to die in a war that didn’t need to be fought and thousands of families have been ripped apart - and hundrends of thousands of innocent Iraqi’s have died for no reason. So who doesn’t care - the chicken hawks running the show and people like you who just regergitate what they’re told! There was no reason to fight this war, yet our soldiers continue to die for nothing. Saddam was a fascist dictator but he was contained - now we’ve increased terrorism in the world and made terrorist recruiting efforts much easier. We are not safer today - just look at the facts and stop believing the bull your being fed - there is no excuse for being un-informed. As far as Gitmo - again no excuse for being un-informed, there are hundreds being held there that haven’t done anything and how dare you compare how other countries would handle our prisoners - this is America you idiot, we use to do things differently here!


    86. Smack Says:

      The truth about trolls is they have nothing to add to the dialog. They wont debate because they lose, so they sow discord into the conversation by taking the most extreme position possible. They never can back up this position with logic because its totally illogical and is designed to provoke an emotional response. I’ve been caught up in it more times than I like to admit, mainly because I cant believe that someone would take up such an insane position.

      The main thing to realize, is that these people are in the minority. They have always been.

      Man’s nature is not essentially evil. Brute nature has been known to yield to the influence of love. You must never despair of human nature. - Mohandas Gandhi


    87. jane troll Says:

      bring it to me little dave. that all you got little boy? are you gonna run away again?


    88. proudleftists Says:

      Malkin is without a soul.I believe she is a Catholic.The Nuns MUST be proud of here.This phoney-baloney conservative “macho” cr*p is sickening!


    89. Jim Says:

      notsobigbelow = jane troll

      Not satisfied enough trolling under one pseudonym.


    90. Ann Arky Says:

      violence begets violence.
      suicide begets suicide.

      There’s no getting around it, everyone will pay, eventually, for the debacle in Iran. There are no good guys in this war, only victims. There’s no “US and THEM” there’s only us - all of us, and all of us are paying the price for violence as a solution to a problem that stems from greed and the hunger for power. While this boat is slowly sinking y’all should stop snapping at eachother and start figuring out what we’re going to do to keep from sinking. We all have our self-righteous opinions but no one will be very interested in them once the water has risen above our nostrils.


    91. Beth Says:

      They were obviously holding them and mistreating them while trying to figure out WWJD!!!!!!!!


    92. jane troll Says:

      poor zwack. he’s finished having a conversation and nobody gives a shit! what will he do next that no -one gives a shit about?


    93. kindness Says:

      why are you all bothering with janetroll & chris? They are trolls for christ’s sake! They won’t admit being wrong, that isn’t their point. Their point is to screw with our heads.

      Don’t let the trolls dictate your day. read them once, skip them afterwards. They aren’t worth the bother of trying to communicate as they won’t. Not on an adult level.

      We are all agreed that even non-citizens on US soil (Guantamo is technically US soil) have the same rights as citizens. Well except our resident trolls. Who cares about those numb reichtwingnutz though? i sure as hell don’t.

      Malkin? right up there with Michael Savage & Ann (transexual) Scarecrow.


    94. David Says:

      Jane, Jane, Jane.

      You don’t even realize who is playing who. I am having fun with you. I love insulting people who are to stupid to realize they are being insulted. I have called you fat, unsocialable, and told you that you needed to get laid, and you take it bending over like a trooper.

      All the people on this board know you for what you are, you are not fooling anyone, I am sure your parents are proud they raised such a weak pathetic person.

      But alas, the fun must end, I have worldly duties to attend to.


    95. Anon1 Says:

      kindness, you’re right.


    96. Smack Says:

      Trolls hijack threads so that the dialog is redirected at them instead of the topic.


    97. r Says:

      Jane, you have nothing intellient or meaningful to say - why don’t you continue you’re childish posts on MySpace.


    98. cizzle Says:

      right! so step right up jane and take one of those ropes! help protect our freedoms!


    99. jane troll Says:

      you’ve got jim convinced that ann is a boy. this site should be re-named the simple mind


    100. moderated Says:

      [Moderated by admin.]


    101. Bill Ahern Says:

      This chick is a low-rent Ann Coulter. Why are we wasting time on her?


    102. thot's Says:

      In Nazi Germany the German people laugh,mocked,beat and turned in their Jewish neighbors are we as Americans turning into something close to this?


    103. jane troll Says:

      bring it on little children. i love it.


    104. Juan C Says:

      O´Reilly:

      I might commit suicide too.

      Someone please take him to visit the prison.


    105. jane troll Says:

      evryone is getting a new identity. i wonder which one little davey is


    106. Chris Says:

      all you lefties here sound like an illiterate cross between Michael moore and john kerry. You leftards all follow that same liberal lockstep don’t ya?? You believe everything the NY Times and Boston globe and moveon.org don’t you??
      Michelle Mailkin should be president!


    107. dlet Says:

      Malkin and Coulter should stop politicing this issue. I mean when their minds died it was a tragic incident but now they are making money off of this event by writing books and trying to influence our government . And I am sure they are happy their minds were killed. I bet their minds would have left them anyway if they weren’t destroyed in that kool-aid attack. Stop being media whores just because you were afflicted with this tragedy.


    108. bobcat_grad Says:

      Could the 10% of America furthest to the right stand up? Great, now the 10% of America furthest to the left stand up? Good. Now you 20%, we’re going to lock you in Wyoming (hey, nothing personal, Wyomians, you just have a lot of space available) and let you duke it out.

      The other 80% of us have crap to do. We’ll get more accomplished in one week without you around than has been ‘accomplished’ in the past six years.


    109. Solitaire Says:

      All crazy pundits to the breach! Stick your fingers in the dyke! Stick your whole head in any hole you can find! The leaks are turning into floods, and the most extreme measures are called for! Malkin and Coulter, climb on in there and start sliming, girls, the End Days that the far right have called down from on high is looking pretty stupid to the rest of us, so do not seem to be backing away! The END depends on you. Get in there and call everyone as many vile names as possible girls. You can get the hate back on track.


    110. George W. Bush Says:

      JANE! who let you out! Get back under my desk this instant and where is your inbred brother John? Bad girl! No treat for you!


    111. Unholy Moses Says:

      First of all Keith H. (comment #59) gets props for the Rage Against the Machine reference. And post #75 is disgusting.

      With that being typed, I would like to make sure I have a few things correct:

      Traitor = Someone who belives we should abide by treaties we have signed and not treat our enemies the same way they would treat us, thus proving that we are better than them. It’s someone who knows that torture is ineffective and inhumane, and that the rule of law should apply.

      Patriot = Someone who disregards all treaties we have signed and should treat everyone that disagrees with us like crap because, you know, they wouldn’t treat us well. It’s someone who thinks torture is just dandy because the person on the receiving end deserves, whether or not they’re actually guilty.

      Do I have that right?


    112. Humanist Says:

      You all waste your time on the antagonists. I mean, really, why? In their world, which they are forcing upon you, all is great and the murderous thieves that you all have become is “okay” because you all are making a profit out of it.

      Think of it this way. When the world rises up and wipes the US off the map, they will be the ones standing there with their thumbs up their asses saying - “Who could have seen that coming?” To which you will be able to reply - “Anyone with a modicum of sense! Now, grab that broom and dustpan so that we can sweep up the ashes of our families.”

      You all are speeding down a dead-end road headed for a catastrophic event but instead of doing something about it, you, like spoiled children, just sit there and argue about which radio station should be playing.


    113. Juan C Says:

      Fox News is really a circus. My god, what kind of political eloquency: Boo-Freakin-Hoo. Ms. Malkin: Thank you very much for confirming the fact that Right Wingers are really a bunch of illiterate thugs when it comes to intelligence, elegance and diplomacy.


    114. bobcat_grad Says:

      Chris -

      Rush called. He needs his listener back.


    115. El Perro Patron Says:

      Perfect. I love these lunatics. They are the true heart of the modern day rethuglican party. If the Dems have any strategy-sense at all, they will use the words of idiots like Malkin and Coulter against the rethugs every minute of everyday. Really put the cold dead soul of the party on display and ask the American people if this is really the kind of ethics and mentality that they want representing them in DC and the state capitols


    116. Shep Says:

      CAPTION:

      “Oooooh! That is big!”


    117. Antagonist Says:

      The fact that women like Michelle Malkin and Anne Coulter have the prominence they do in America is a sad testimony of the absence of any strong leadership from its men. Nature abhors a vacuum. When the men in the positions of power and influence won’t say it like it is—then women will rise to the occasion and will say those things. Granted, her message sounds rather harsh, but only those who refuse to put the issues concerning the war on terror in perspective will be offended.


    118. bonsavant Says:

      she is nasty looking….fake tan and all


    119. JTH Says:

      In addition there is very solid proof that over 90% of all gitmo detainees were handed over to our troops by bounty hunters (american and afghani). Most / if not all have never committed a crime nor were they carrying arms or fighting against us.

      Most of them are former anti-taliban fighters who were taken into custody by rival war lords.


    120. Badmoodman Says:

      And when the Jews chose mass suicide at Masada rather than succumb to the Romans they were martyred for all of history. So those of you who are rejoicing at the Gitmo suicides unmittingly support their cause. Aren’t you proud?


    121. moderated Says:

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    122. moderated Says:

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    123. Badmoodman Says:

      unmittingly - - umm, unwittingly. Carrion….


    124. troll Says:

      Humans are the cause of global warming according to libs. Maybe more of the libs should take the detainees lead and save the Earth.


    125. venmax Says:

      Hermaphrodite!?

      Are you using the same type of dick I’m using?


    126. schar Says:

      Regardless, let’s not confuse morality with legality Is it right to lock up these peopl in Gitmo? Is is really OK to put these people in cages, with them not knowing if or when they could be released? Is it right that many of these people are probably innocent and/or uncharged with any crime against humanity? As far as I’m concerned, this argument really has nothing to do with the Constitution or the Bill of Rights. It’s down to basic right and wrong for me.


    127. proudleftists Says:

      How did America become so full of rage and hate.Does “Born-Again Christianity”,have anything to do with it?WHO WOULD JESUS KILL?


    128. bobcat_grad Says:

      Granted, her message sounds rather harsh, but only those who refuse to put the issues concerning the war on terror in perspective will be offended.

      I wish I had the time to point out the callousnous and backwards rationality in this statement.

      But, alas, I have work to do. Good luck with your hate-filled rhetoric and your trouncing on basic human rights and decency.

      Jesus would be so proud of you. And the founding fathers. I’m sure they’d be pleased, too.


    129. sig@zipa.com Says:

      And these are the people le who call themselves ‘pro-life.’ Boo-Freakin-Hoo.


    130. PinkDome Says:

      Right-wing media whores (you know who I’m talking about)…

      Michelle Malkin and Ann Coulter are keeping their names in the news (or at least the liberal blogosphere) this week. Ms. Malkin seems to think that suicide is painless and as for Ms. Coulter, well, she’s making the same ass……


    131. Jim Says:

      CAPTION: “My lips are stuck this way from kissing Neocon ass for the past five years.”


    132. proudleftists Says:

      Michelle was getting envoius of Anne,who has been getting all the bloggers space lately.So she felt compelled to make a lunatic remark.


    133. Moderated Says:

      Lol! …and btw all you lefty-geeks. You can stop the fake-bashing on Malkin on her looks.

      [Moderated by admin.]


    134. Juan C Says:

      Troll, Jane, Chris, this is my answer to you: whatever, kids.


    135. troll Says:

      You call yourself pro-choice. They choose to commit suicide. We just support that choice.


    136. bobcat_grad Says:

      Lol! …and btw all you lefty-geeks. You can stop the fake-bashing on Malkin on her looks.

      We all know that if you saw a picture of her wearing a catholic school-girl skirt while playing an X-box you’d spooge all over in a matter of seconds.

      How piously conservative of you.

      Does your God know you use words like ’spooge?’


    137. troll Says:

      boob you are a narrow minded bigot. Not every conservative believed in God. MORON


    138. Jim Says:

      Catholic school girl outfit…. can you say “projection”? I thought you could.

      I’m glad these trolls as well as Malkin/Coulter are exposing the right for the hatefilled, racist, christofascists they are.

      Keep it up. The more America sees you for what you really are the more they’ll reject you.

      Like poll numbers show they’re doing. You’re on the path to extinction.


    139. Nick Says:

      Unfortunately, I believe most Americans feel that an American life is worth more than any other life. This is definitely reflective in the responses of people who could truly care less whether or not the captives of Guantanamo are guilty. These people feel that a non-American life is worth shit. How miserable.


    140. Antagonist Says:

      The left laments these suicides since these individuals were not able to take any innocent civilians with them. Alas, the maximum effect could not be utilized in your anti-war chant. Nonetheless these suicides took place at Gitmo, Your treasonous imaginations will have to take solace in your limitless invention of scandal and cover-ups.


    141. Nick Says:

      I’m curious as to when valuing a life became treasonous.


    142. Juan C Says:

      Antagonist. I am sure you got it all covered, little scared bunny.


    143. Bobo Says:

      Fox news is nothing more than a Jerry Springer news network of bull _hit, lies and misinformation


    144. Lewis Singh Says:

      I acn only hope that the Warrior President declares war on the Phillipines just so that this bitch can be interned and she can enjoy all the wonderful amenities of prison camp.


    145. Dago T Says:

      Chris, Chris, Chris. We leftards DO care about U.S. servicemen and women. That’s why we’re calling for them to COME HOME!!!!


    146. Jason Says:

      The problem is not that they commited suicide but why..There is a reason why the Red Cross and the UN have not been permited to see the prisoners. We all know people like ( Chris) who have stated absurd comments on this blog and people like Ann Coulter only speak out of fear. Its a shame that only 29% of people think this way. With education lacking in the last few years, I see why… The gitmo prisoners are being held without reason and that alone should be a real fear for the citizens of the United States


    147. For Truth Says:

      Oh Michelle, your just trying to get attention, like your friend Ann did.


    148. kashkrupa Says:

      Even Nazi war criminals had representation. The Japanese, too. But it’s a new day and I guess we can treat anybody anyway we want. I mean who’s gonna stop us? War gives us the permission to stoop as low, or even lower, than our enemies just as long as we win. Once the dust has settled, then we can all reset our moral compasses.


    149. venmax Says:

      How piously conservative of you.

      Does your God know you use words like ’spooge?’

      This idea - more than ANY OTHER - is exactly why The Democrats have been losing power for the last 40 years. You farking morons believe that everyone voting for Republicans is a religious conservative.

      Hate to break it to you - DUMBASS - but we’re not. We’re the Libertarians you’ve managed to chase out of the party by bending over and worshiping at the alter of global dictator-appeasement, moral and cultural relativity, and political correctness.

      Don’t blame all the real men from leaving your side of the aisle. They’ve never liked panty-waists before, and they never will.


    150. Jonathon Says:

      It does really seem like conservatives are in a race to the bottom for which of them can be the most insensitive and outrageous in their rhetoric. Both Coulter and Malkin have made the fortunes by these types of statements. It is a damn shame that either of these fakirs are considered “analysts” by anyone, even if we are talking about Faux News.

      The truth about Gitmo is that the United States is illegally holding prisioners outside of our territory to place these detainees in a grey legal status and so that they can avoid (for as long as possible) the due process that is guaranteed under our Constitution. There is no reason that the men being held at Gitmo can’t be brought to US soil and face trial. President Clinton was able to pursue and prosecute the men responsible for the first bombing of the WTC without resorting to holding them on foreign soil, throwing out the Geneva Convention and ignoring the US Constitution. Why can’t Dubya do the same thing with these men? Despite the possibility that some of them could be members of Al Qaeda or the Taliban, are they not still human beings? Have we no respect whatsoever for the lives of other people? It doesn’t matter one whit if “the other side” would respond in kind; what matters is who we are and how we comport ourselves.

      PS: I’d like to suggest that we stop feeding the trolls. They are not here to discuss issues, or even to learn new facts or to hear the opinions of others and engage in civil discourse. They are here to bog us all down in tangential discussions that are (mostly) irrelevant to the topic at hand. Since they can’t seem to defend Malkin’s remarks they resort to name-calling, spurious arguments and outright lies. If no one engages them they will go away. Besides, we all know that many of the recurring trolls on this and other progressive websites are paid employees of the GOP and spend their days sowing discord whereever they can. Is it really worth anyone’s time to “argue” with such people?


    151. Karl Rove Says:

      Just a reminder:
      Your leftist leadership supports the Long War-and the accompanying NSA spying and “Enemy Combatant” classification as expressed by President Bush which allows for indefinite detention without representation as well as rendition. See you at the polls!


    152. bobcat_grad Says:

      People like Chris, venmax, troll, and others (posters on ‘our’ side as well) have illustrated one thing for sure:

      Political discourse in this country is dead. Hatred and namecalling has replaced it.

      Way to go, us. If we just keep calling each other names, that’s bound to fix all of the problems, right?


    153. God Says:

      Aww, she is so cute, boo freakin whooo!!! THey could be just like a nigga in the wrong place at the wrong time, but would that matter??. White people(chris) just can’t understand that I guess.


    154. unbelievable Says:

      Comment by Antagonist — June 13, 2006 @ 1:40 pm

      Go take a lesson on anatomy… You don’t need a penis to have a thought or an opinion…

      Actually, if you’d go do some research, you’d find that in countries where women have equal rights - the country is much better off. Countries where women have equal rights, like Sweden, Norway, Germany, Spain and Canada, have less crime and better health than those where women are second-class like oh, pick one in the Middle East where they are constantly at war with one another of nonsense like religion…


    155. Antagonist Says:

      …But, alas, I have work to do. Good luck with your hate-filled rhetoric and your trouncing on basic human rights and decency.
      Jesus would be so proud of you. And the founding fathers. I’m sure they’d be pleased, too.
      Comment by bobcat_grad — June 13, 2006 @ 1:46 pm

      You probably believe in the liberal, humanitarian, peace-loving, politically correct Jesus of your imagination, and not the Jesus in the Bible. There are innumerous examples of absolutes in the Bible—good and evil, right and wrong, heaven and hell, wise and foolish, friend and foe. Jesus himself said that he who is not with me is against me. That being said, there are absolutes in the world today. We are at war against an enemy who will terrorize our cities, our citizens, and our way of life—unless we stop them. When a war is declared, a line is drawn. Assuming that you are a U.S. citizen, your country is at war! You’re either on one side of that line, or on the other. When one has more compassion for the enemy or its allies, than they do for the good of their own country, then it’s not hard to figure out which side of the line they’re on…Traitor!


    156. Me Says:

      Don’t you people have Jobs? Go to work and be productive instead of make each other feel good on blogs.


    157. Bruce Gorton Says:

      bobcat_grad

      The trouble is, if you look at the replies the Right’s actually come up with, particularly Jane Troll, there is no argument there. Take away the Ad-Hominem attack and the lies, and there is nothing left, so its pointless even trying to argue.

      And yes, there are leftwingers who are just as bad. Frequently I am just as bad, but frankly, what else can you do in the face of posts like the following?

      The left laments these suicides since these individuals were not able to take any innocent civilians with them. Alas, the maximum effect could not be utilized in your anti-war chant. Nonetheless these suicides took place at Gitmo, Your treasonous imaginations will have to take solace in your limitless invention of scandal and cover-ups.

      Comment by Antagonist — June 13, 2006 @ 2:03 pm


    158. TruthtoPower Says:

      Jane only proves - some AMericans deserve 1000 911’s
      shes a lowlife


    159. Jason Says:

      Jon- I think your using big words that they wont understand… As their president says, “See, in my line of work you got to keep repeating things over and over and over again for the truth to sink in, to kind of catapult the propaganda.”. Whats next leaflets from above. Its truename calling and bashing is what the scholl yard bully use to do. I do enjoy Coulter coments abouut the 9/11 wives as if they are enjoying thier husbands death buy going on TV and denouncing the administration…But yet Coulter has made more money from 9/11 then she ever did before or at least before when she a man ( ok sorry, I should have not said that becuase i know that I will be called un american and a leftist) Let me put on my flag lapel first..There, am I ok now!


    160. Tobey Tall Says:

      What a unacceptable society you all live in, comments like hers would not be on TV to brainwash American mentality, bashaka to America


    161. unbelievable Says:

      So, this is what it looks like in the pre-civil war years of a country…


    162. For Truth Says:

      Unbelievable,

      Your right about countries with women’s rights. I know how you feel about animal abuse, but how do you feel about plant abuse?


    163. Jim Says:

      Why is it that the only discourse the conservatives can provide is what we’ve witnessed in this thread and in the words of Malkin/Coulter?

      What happened to principled, thinking conservatives? I remember them. They USED to exist.

      Conservatism is dead. What passes for conservatism wouldn’t be recognized by the famous conservative leaders of yesteryear.

      We live in an Atwater/Rove created world now. I wouldn’t mind having a REAL conservative instead of this failed-human dictatorial imbecile we currently have POSING as a conservative.


    164. Martin Says:

      Fascists will not let go until their country is in ruins and the surviving people just can’t take the crap anymore and put them into a dim corner where they have to shut up.
      Fascists preach hate and hate seduces the masses. Hate makes people feel important, powerful. They can forget that they have an unimportant life in some cubicle when they feel better than billions of others who are ‘enemies’.
      Once hate takes hold there is no stopping until many died and towns lie in ruins. Hate destroys. Haters can destroy many others but in the end they self destruct.
      O’Reilly, Coulter, Mallkin etc. will one day be remembered with the same disdain as a Goebbels. But they have their time during which they successfully seduce their audience and turn them into killing zombies.
      And fascists cannot be converted with arguments. They feel they are right and if you are not of the same opinion, you become their enemy. Fascists might develop doubts in their superiority when they bury their kids or dig out their families from under the rubble but then it is too late.

      “I sit and watch as tears go by”


    165. For Truth Says:

      Real conservatives are much more polite than Malkin, Coulter, et.al. What happened?


    166. Zwack Says:

      Antagonist…

      Jesus also told people to turn the other cheek…

      and said that

      He who is without sin should cast the first stone…

      So, which is it to be? The love one another Jesus or the kill my enemies Jesus?

      Wait,… Did Jesus say “Kill my enemies?”

      Ummm….

      Ummm….

      I give… perhaps you can find that quote for me.

      “‘My country, right or wrong’ is a thing no patriot would ever think of saying except in a desperate case. It is like saying ‘My mother, drunk or sober.’” -
      — GK Chesterton

      Z.


    167. Jason Says:

      BTW- for all you leftist, commie, un godly traitor bastards that we are, should we be explaining that terroist is nothing new. Its an old concept. I am not saying its right but I dont see many people running to help stop the IRA and counties in Africa. I dont see this govt speaking out about the Michigan Malisha anymore. We are all human beings so why dont we act like it.



    168. Bruce Gorton Says:

      Derric

      Only before it leaves the womb, after that its either rich or a burden on society.


    169. Fat Tony Says:

      The fact that so much space is being devoted to Michelle Malkin’s reactionary vitriol proves that she’s already accomplished her goal.


    170. Antagonist Says:

      #155
      In your tireless war on religion, you will even stoop in an attempt to reinvent the human species. Men and women are indeed equal, yet we are different. We’re different physically, emotionally, and psychologically. In face, recent studies have proven that there’s even a difference between male an female brains. The way we process information is different. Like it or not, men and women have roles—in the family and in society. And before you get all huffy, I’m not suggesting that womens roles are subservient to mens roles. We live in an age where men by and large have abandoned their roles. Hence we have a generation of girls living in confusion—overwhelmed by the pressure of living up to ever changing expectations of who they’re supposed to be. If you would take your own advice and do some research, you would change your opinion. Find the societies which have the healthiest, most functional families, and you’ll see people who are content in their roles as men and women. You’ll also find a strong society. That’s what made America Great, but as Americas’ families disintegrated, we’ve become plagued with insurmountable social problems—and weakened as a nation.


    171. unbelievable Says:

      how do you feel about plant abuse?
      Comment by For Truth — June 13, 2006 @ 2:37 pm

      I saw a show on television years ago. It was documentary show. They aired the results of a study that scientists had done with plants. They connected electrodes to the plant to monitor its biorhythms (I think). The plants were subjected to a series of tests to see if they had any measurable reaction to their own abuse, as well as the abuse of other plants and animals. The results were profound.

      Not only is a plant stressed by abuse it receives, but it is also stressed by the abuse to other living things in its envirnoment. They used the results to explain the health of house plants…

      I think those who abuse anything are the problem - whether a plant or a puppy or another human being. Someone who gets off on torturing other living beings is not fit to be around other living beings…


    172. Earl Henstra Says:

      Come on guys, it was all planned, MM will say it and BO will question it. Make’s one of them appear human.


    173. troll Says:

      You are too funny. Have you been paying attention to the writings from the leftards here? Hate and bigotry are second nature to you guys. You just think your brand of hate is normal so you think you hold the highground when indeed you blazed the path of intolerance.


    174. troll Says:

      No lib said a word when you racist pigs made bigoted comments about malkins race. Give me a break.


    175. Jason Says:

      Hey Troll- Please tell me 3 left thinking progressive pundits that attack and also are bigots plus promote hate.


    176. troll Says:

      And sexist comments. you’d think at least unbelievable who allegedly is a progressive woman would have called the pigs on that but no she turns a blind eye on the blatant racism and sexism of the left.


    177. w346 Says:

      God bless us all


    178. unbelievable Says: