As Crime Spikes, Bush Slashes Law Enforcement Funding
As Crime Spikes, Bush Slashes Law Enforcement Funding
Throughout his tenure, President Bush and his staff have bragged about their efforts fighting crime. In his 2006 State of the Union address, Bush claimed, “Violent crime rates have fallen to their lowest levels since the 1970s.” In May 2006, Attorney General Alberto Gonzales said the country had “a violent crime rate at its lowest level in three decades.”
But new FBI statistics released Monday show that crime has actually jumped under the Bush administration. Violent crime in 2005 increased at 2.5 percent, the highest rate in 15 years for violent offenses. In his FY 2007 budget, however, Bush proposed cutting local law enforcement funding by a total of 52 percent. Some examples:
– Community Oriented Policing Services (COPS): Since 1995, COPS has put more than 118,500 new law enforcement officers on the streets. But Bush’s FY 2005 budget proposed cutting funding for the COPS program for the fourth consecutive year, including eliminating all funding for hiring. For FY 2007, Bush is trying to cut COPS by another 76 percent.
– Byrne Justice Assistance Grants: These grants give state and local governments funds to “prevent and control crime and to improve the criminal justice system.” Bush’s FY 2005, 2006, and 2007 budgets proposed eliminating the grants. (Congress hasn’t eliminated them, but has slashed funding each year.)
– COPS Interoperable Communications Grant: Succcessful program awards technology grants to law enforcement and public safety agencies for enhancing communication. Bush proposed eliminating the program in FY 2005, and has again proposed its elimination in FY 2007.
Bush’s motto: Take a bite out of crime (prevention programs).
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Bush is deliberately destabalising society in order to manipulate the american people into his way of thinking
Spend more money on health and care in the community
June 14th, 2006 at 1:09 pmIt’s all about funding his play war… just like the noble king he thinks he is.
“Let them eat cake”
June 14th, 2006 at 1:10 pmHe’s only good at making speaches and photo ops. When are people gonna wake up ???
June 14th, 2006 at 1:17 pm“Let them eat cakeâ€
Why do you hate Cake?
June 14th, 2006 at 1:24 pmThe crime rate is up because the economy is crappy.
June 14th, 2006 at 1:29 pmNotice how Bush is leaning? Like he’s thinking to himself “I want not to touch this low-salary scum…”
June 14th, 2006 at 1:31 pmHere is a classice example of Republican doublespeak.
The GOP says that it is tough on crime, yet it slashes budgets for fighting crime at a time when crime is on the rise.
June 14th, 2006 at 1:32 pmQuestion for the peanut gallery: Do you think that crime can be brought to 0%? Do you think crime rates are cyclic (they go up and down)? These two questions are mutually exclusive and there is NO empirical data showing that an increase in Federal funding results in a decrease in violent crime. But since the crime rate had been FALLING over the past years it would only make fiscal sense to cut funding for program that didn’t need it. Or may you think that we should fund every program forever?
June 14th, 2006 at 1:40 pmAmerica’s first (failed) used car salesman president. He’s still trying to pawn off lemons on us…….
June 14th, 2006 at 1:42 pmI am continually ashamed, for our country, for having such a buffoonish b’ser as a leader…..
“Houston murder rate shoots up 23 percentâ€
December 22nd, 2005
Heckuva Job Duhbya!
FOX news will likely blame all of this on the NO evacuees.
“N.O. Evacuees raise murder rates across the country.”
June 14th, 2006 at 1:43 pm-FAUX NEWS [Not]
RRS,
the leading cause of crime is poverty. when you go into an economic downturn, and poverty increases, an increase in crime follows. I guess from you statements you are soft on crime. Statistics are showing an increase in crime. If funding programs to help catch criminals and prevent crime is such a terrible thing, why do the republicans harp on the crime issue so much.
We also should not be cutting funding, when we are fighting against terrorists. The local police are the first line of defense. Why would you want to weaken our national security?
It would also make Fiscal sense to get out of Iraq, and to stop giving billions back to big oil. But I don’t see either happening anytime soon.
June 14th, 2006 at 1:47 pmGetting rid of the Byrne Grants has actually been a good thing. Byrne Grants have been used primarily by Drug Task Forces that are notorious for racial profiling. Many people on the left have been fighting for years to get rid of them. You might want to think twice before attacking Bush on that one…
June 14th, 2006 at 1:47 pmBut since the crime rate had been FALLING over the past years it would only make fiscal sense to cut funding for program that didn’t need it. Or may you think that we should fund every program forever?
Comment by Retired Republican Soldier — June 14, 2006 @
“HAD BEEN FALLING”
And the Soldier trips over his own boots.
Change the crime rate to war rate.
Now we see Bush has spent alot on Killing Folks,
A Humongous Debt, to fight terror, or Crime, as you say.
So how can you eat this cake Soldier?
June 14th, 2006 at 1:50 pmWhats the difference between a murderer and terrorist?
Do they both not want to kill you?
And do they not both require ships, planes, wars, torture, rendition.
Hey Soldier it costs money to imprison and torture, here or there, can’t you see that?
Or may you think that we should fund every program forever?
June 14th, 2006 at 1:54 pm~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
You Soldier, you mean like Bushes forever war?
The full spectrum dominance thing?
You don’t complain about this? why?
Are not the troops in effect just Nation Building Policemen stationed in Iraq?
All part of the politics of chaos.
June 14th, 2006 at 1:54 pm#8 - Another one of your ridiculous arguments. The topic is that crime rates have spiked, and Bush brags all the time about his crime fighting efforts, while at the same time cutting funding. Do you have a link we can go to in order ot read all about your assertion that there is no empirical data showing that an increase in Federal funding results in a decrease in violent crime?
June 14th, 2006 at 1:56 pmThe local police are the first line of defense. Why would you want to weaken our national security?
Nah. The Coalition of the Willing in Iraq and Afghanistan are our first line of defense.
“Fighting them over there so we don’t have to fight them over here” and all that.
/sarcasm off.
June 14th, 2006 at 1:58 pmYou might want to think twice before attacking Bush on that one…Think Twice? OK.
We got a Police WAR in Iraq to Fund!!
We have a Nation for our Troops,umm Bush Police, to Build!
But don’t attack Bush, he didn’t start the war right?
DID Bush say, Republicans, that he wouldn’t use the troops for Natin Building?
Is this or is this not a lie?
Why yes it was. But I shouldn’t speak out? And If we speak out against the one. who spoke misleadingly, thats an attack?
Do you teach your Children, Republicans, to lie such as Bush does?
June 14th, 2006 at 2:00 pmAnd why not?
#8,
Makes sense, if something is not needed, stop funding it. This thread is interesting, cuz us moonbats always think Bush is pushing for a police state. I for one, think some places overfund law-enforcement, like Arizona. I think education, quality of life, and good parenting are what directly effects crime rates. I won’t miss any cuts in law enforcement, I’ve never been a big fan of the mentality.
June 14th, 2006 at 2:02 pmWhy do you hate Cake?
Comment by squegeeboo — June 14, 2006 @ 1:24 pm
Why do you hate fifth grade history?
“Qu’il mangent de la brioche” (brioche is actually a type of bread).
June 14th, 2006 at 2:05 pmDumb Ass Republi-Trolls.
June 14th, 2006 at 2:08 pmBut deficits don’t matter, Reagan proved it!
But Bush will Slash the deficit it in half!
Even though it doesn’t matter.
Port Deals? Security? Why Bush bought all those expensive plastic buoys right? Those super secure hollow plastic boxes?
Oh But that was Business, Crony Capitalism, so it does not count?
How much did these Buoys, these giant hollow plastic beads cost?
~~~~
“Houston murder rate shoots up 23 percentâ€
December 22nd, 2005
Look Crime is dropping! Stop Funding these Programs!
/sarcasm on
“Why do you hate fifth grade history?”
Because I hate public education and the French Language.
June 14th, 2006 at 2:19 pmQuestion for the peanut gallery: Do you think that crime can be brought to 0%?
If I do you can’t fault my optimism. If I don’t, that’s no reason to give up.
Do you think crime rates are cyclic (they go up and down)?
Sure, Republicans get elected, crime goes up. Democrats get elected crime goes down. Republicans complain about crime, they get elected, crime goes up again.
These two questions are mutually exclusive and there is NO empirical data showing that an increase in Federal funding results in a decrease in violent crime. But since the crime rate had been FALLING over the past years it would only make fiscal sense to cut funding for program that didn’t need it.
Interesting logic. Would you make the same case against terrorism funding? If we haven’t been attacked since 9/11 (as Bush likes to say)…
Besides, I thought all these conceal-carry laws recently passed in the heartland was supposed to lower the crime rate?
June 14th, 2006 at 2:21 pmSquegee hates the fith grade. He was umm “abused” during elementary school.
=P
June 14th, 2006 at 2:26 pmCan’t invest and make money on private Police forces …yet (exception: Blackwater et al /military police) . You can invest in Private prisons however, and that is where a good chunk of the Bushco money is invested.
June 14th, 2006 at 2:30 pm“Violent crime in 2005 increased at the highest rate in 15 years, driven in large part by a surge of killings and other attacks in many Midwestern cities, the FBI reported yesterday.”
http://www.boston.com/ news/ nation/ washington/ articles/ 2006/ 06/ 13/ violent_crime_rates_spike_in_us/
I guess Retired Republican Soldier will have to change his (skewed) perspective on Pres. bush’s performance in “reducing” crime.
Either that, or he’s going to have to credit Fmr. Pres. Clinton HIS successful efforts at actually reducing violent crime!
June 14th, 2006 at 2:31 pm“Squegee hates the fith grade. He was umm “abused†during elementary school.”
Nah, School was fine, its church where the repressed memories come from.
June 14th, 2006 at 2:31 pmThat is why you shouldn’t have volunteered to be an alter boy.
June 14th, 2006 at 2:34 pm“That is why you shouldn’t have volunteered to be an alter boy.”
I was told I had too, otherwise Baby Jesus would cry.
Democrat Soldier
“The jump could also represent a lingering effect of the Sept. 11 2001″ Was in your article. So basically, this is all Clintons fault beacause…..(insert logic I can’t come up with offhand here)….which led to the democracts lead by Clinton allowing 9/11 to happen.
Makes Perfect Sense.
June 14th, 2006 at 2:40 pmBecause I hate public education and the French Language.
Comment by squegeeboo — June 14, 2006 @ 2:19 pm
If you hate public education, then pay back the government for your education and you can tell everyone you paid for your K-12. I assure you, private school teachers are not necessarily any better. In fact, because they are paid much less than teachers in public school - it’s debatable that they are better teachers. What is better is the smaller classroom size and the ability to kick out the trouble makers. (Why I switched to a charter school… same pay, but better rules : )
Why would you hate a language?
June 14th, 2006 at 2:49 pm“Why would you hate a language?”
Because I’m irrational when it comes to my distate of the French, which dates back roughly 10 years now, to when I went over there, and the only non-rude non-asshole parisian that I met was an American Expatriot.
June 14th, 2006 at 2:53 pmthe only non-rude non-asshole parisian that I met was an American Expatriot.
Comment by squegeeboo — June 14, 2006 @ 2:53 pm
What did you do to piss them off? I’ve spent a total of about 4 weeks there and they were always very nice, helpful and accommodating people… Even in Paris.
June 14th, 2006 at 3:08 pm“What did you do to piss them off?”
Got me, I was 12ish at the time, so prob. just a normal annoying tween. And to correct my statement, there were a decent amount that were just bland with me, like most other tourists, but all the ones that actually had any personality towards us were always on the bad side.
June 14th, 2006 at 3:12 pmBush and the law never did have a cordial relationship, anyway
Sorry, did you just try to re-use your global warming argument on the left wanting to catch criminals?
June 14th, 2006 at 3:16 pmA.) After 5 years of decline, there is a 2.5% increase in violent crime. That is hardly “under the Bush Admin. violent crime increased” — that statement is just wrong.
B.) Violent crime (regardless of what happened yesterday) is till DOWN in NYC. NYC did NOT experience any uptick! Point: the cities are not becoming bad again.
C.) Did he “cut” programs? I guarantee the Law Enforcement budget is bigger this year than last, but because some soft, touchy-feely programs were scaled back you want to say the pres cut law-enforcement - statement is totally false.
Why don’t you guys just give up?
June 14th, 2006 at 4:08 pmTerrance, according to the NRA, the conceal carry laws passed througout the midwest should have lowered crime, and liberal gun-grabbing NYC should see an increase. So tell them to give it up!
What soft, touchy-feely programs are you referring to, btw?
June 14th, 2006 at 4:13 pmWhy don’t you guys just give up?
Comment by Terrence — June 14, 2006 @ 4:08 pm
Because I don’t dittoheads like you running this country anymore.
=P
June 14th, 2006 at 4:19 pmBush wants the military and Blackwater mercenary thugs to patrol the streets of America, when he declares Martial Law, after he attacks Iran! Regular cops are NO longer needed according to Bush, so why fund them?!
June 14th, 2006 at 4:20 pm#8 - Do you think that crime can be brought to 0%?
Certainly. And there are various ways to accomplish that, too.
Do you think crime rates are cyclic (they go up and down)?
That they go up and down, yes. That they follow a definable cycle, no.
These two questions are mutually exclusive
No, they’re not. You didn’t ask if the crime rate could be brought to zero and kept there.
and there is NO empirical data showing that an increase in Federal funding results in a decrease in violent crime.
Apparently you haven’t read:
PREVENTING CRIME:
WHAT WORKS, WHAT DOESN’T, WHAT’S PROMISING:
A REPORT TO THE UNITED STATES CONGRESS
Prepared for the National Institute of Justice
But since the crime rate had been FALLING over the past years it would only make fiscal sense to cut funding for program that didn’t need it.
This statement absolutely defies logic. For example, would you argue that since there have been no terrorist attacks in the U.S. involving airlines we can now discontinue security measures in all of our airports?
Or may you think that we should fund every program forever?
Comment by Retired Republican Soldier — June 14, 2006 @ 1:40 pm
While I may think that, I choose not to. Besides, some programs should be eliminated. Like bombing countries back to the stone-age based on a pretextual case for going to war.
June 14th, 2006 at 4:57 pm[…] Think Progress […]
June 14th, 2006 at 5:03 pmBriseadh na Faire
Think about it, he is saying that the crime rate is cyclical, therefore you shouldn’t do anything about it right?
Now replace “the crime rate” with global warming. Its the same argument. Same logic, heck probably said in the same tone of voice.
Now replace “the crime rate” with the economy. Its the same argument. Same logic, heck probably said in the same tone of voice.
Am I alone in getting the feeling that there is a certain amount of talking point recycling going on here?
June 14th, 2006 at 5:10 pm#25 - Actually, after 15 years of crime decrease, we now have the very first increase. The first increase in crime since Pres. Clinton was in office! Hmmmm.
Well, the only difference is that Pres. Bush is decreasing the amount of money availabel to hire and traing new policemen. Go figure.
June 14th, 2006 at 5:16 pmit’s funny - I just bet if George Bush increased funding for cops all the liberals here would whine that Bush is turning America into a police state.
George Bush can’t even break wind without the kook fringe left going nuts. I have never seen such outright hate and contempt for a president in my life and I have seen them since Eisenhower. for those libs here whose mantra is “hate is not a family value” you sure do hate a lot.
June 14th, 2006 at 5:34 pmI saw plenty of outright hate and contempt during the clinton presidency so don’t even start with that shit.
June 14th, 2006 at 5:41 pmIf Bush would get something right once in a while, we wouldn’t be so quick to bash him. Frankly, cutting funding to police protection less than a week after trying to ramrod a bill to give even more tax breaks to the uber-rich just makes no sense, particularly not when he’s running the largest deficit in the history of our country.
Should we praise him for the Guinness World Record debt we’re racking up, perhaps? It’s good to be the best, I suppose.
June 14th, 2006 at 5:54 pmthere was hate because clinton was a sleazy scumbag( and so was her husband) but there was not the level of hate anywhere close to what it is today with Bush. Not even close. the problem now is that liberals are going nuts that Bush won 2004 and also the fact that the democrats were in power for almost 50 years and until 1994 when they were kicked out and they just cannot deal with being an irrelevant party. So YOU don’t even start with that shit!
June 14th, 2006 at 5:55 pmI just bet if George Bush increased funding for cops all the liberals here would whine that Bush is turning America into a police state.
And you would lose that bet.
June 14th, 2006 at 5:56 pmthere was hate because clinton was a sleazy scumbag( and so was her husband)
sleazy scumbat = you hate him because you hate him.
You hate Clinton because he cheated on his wife? Really? Not because his policies were detrimental to your life or anything reasonable like that?
Come on, let go of your hate. Talk to us.
June 14th, 2006 at 5:58 pmOk how about clinton selling missile tech to the chinese? how about the double standard of sexual harrassment with lewinsky, never mind the fact he cheated on his wife. How about signing the “brady” bill and breaking the oath he took to uphold the Constition? How about the first thing he did when he took office in his first term was outrageous retroactive taxes. How about having bin laden and letting him go, how about not reigning in Hussein. how about, Mogadishu where his lack of spine now has the region run by al queda.? How about Waco where his AG Janet ” the butcher of Waco” Reno murdered almost 90 men women and children?? How about that!!!!!!!!! I know they were gasp “religious” white people so that was ok Right? At least Bush does not barbecue and murder Americans.
June 14th, 2006 at 6:09 pmChris,
I was pointing out the hypocrisy of your position. You like to claim the left is filled with hate, well guess what so is the right. You have a laundry list of evils committed by clinton, well guess what We have a laundry list of evils committed by Bush.
Again put your money where your mouth is, if Iraq is such a great thing, sign up and go get blown up. Good riddance to bad rubbish.
Oh yeah your a pissant too.
June 14th, 2006 at 6:16 pm#49 - Chris - and your point is??? that you can throw out questions and allegations without the facts upon which their based? Is that how you wish to be judged? I certainly hope so, for that is precisely how you will be judged.
June 14th, 2006 at 6:20 pmI like that Chris apperantly supports pedophilia and polygamy, as long as its done in religious manner. And I loved the underlying subtext about the waco debacle. It’s okay as long as its brown skinned non-christians?
what are you really trying to say Chris?
June 14th, 2006 at 6:24 pmChris’ complaints against Clinton stem from right wing hatred. I would bet dollars to doughnuts that he doesn’t hate Republicans who did the same things (not counting the unfactual things).
Nice comment, Bush does not barbecue and murder Americans. No he barbecues and murders Iraqis who had nothing to do with 9/11. And in far greater numbers.
When it comes to a laundry list of valid complaints, we got you beat, pal.
June 14th, 2006 at 6:31 pmBriseadh na Faire and you are doing the same thing. my point is that even during the Clinton administration there was not the level of venom there is now for Bush. not even close.
Krazny let me tell you somthing you ignorant,arrogant ltiile shit. I DID serve my country over 30 years ago before you were even a drip off your fathers prick. i did serve my country proudly because i love this country and I believed in the mission: stopping communism. i still believe in that mission today but today we don’t have to go to overseas to fight communism all we have to do is go to colleges and websites like this. I tried to re- enlist after 9/11 but even with my “talents and record” I was deemed too old to go, but I would have gladly gone for the rights of even little turds like you speak freely.
June 14th, 2006 at 6:32 pmBullshit
you can make up whatever story you want but it is still bullshit. I can be arrogant yes, but at least I am not a lying turd like you.
June 14th, 2006 at 6:39 pmIf you are in the business of disassembling the Federal Government, why wouldn’t you cut law enforcement funding? GW wants chaos in the streets, so he can declare marshall law. Then he will have a perpetual war on terror over here, as well as over there!! And he will have a perpetual job! (first one in his life)
June 14th, 2006 at 6:44 pmwhy is swifboatian when i say it and real when you do?? an how dare you call me un- American!! you lttle moron??
June 14th, 2006 at 6:50 pmwhy is what I say hate speech and what you say is not?? you are the typical liberal hypocrite and you are so ignorant and bigoted you cannot see it.
First, I am not throwing out accusations. I merely pointed out the operation of the universal law as expressed by the statement “Judge not, that ye be not judged. For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged”
As far as relative levels of venom is concerned, that is a matter of perspective. However, for all of Clinton’s faults, he did not initiate a war of agression based on pretext and he did not reserve the right to torture. In short, from what I have seen, Bush has arguably committed international war crimes, whereas Clinton has not.
And, since you are willing to attack Clinton using the equivalence of sound bytes, you really have no cause to complaint when others attack Bush in the same manner.
June 14th, 2006 at 7:11 pmlol good stuff… i thought libs didn’t like cops anyway, all of a sudden after 9/11 you guys discovered the NYPD as a fashion statement…. i thought it was all about “therapy”, lighter sentences, being held at night, TV and internet access would help solve the crime problems… now it Bushes fault for trying to stop my money from adding another government bureaucracy to decide how my money should be redistributed over to to some schmuck mayor in some city i have never seen nor plan on visiting. i have enough problems with my taxes being used by my own mayor and govenor who i can’t stand. Not because they are “idiots” or aren’t “eloquent” either… but because their policies suck, and it is thier fault there aren’t enough cops.
Katrina should have taught you what federal government funding gets you… waste! because the local govenments build hospitality centers, and renovate court houses instead of infrastructure….
I live in Chicago, ask Mayor Daley about our wonderful parks. I think Marie Antoinette once said, “Let them eat, cake”
Ask Mayor Daley about why we have 8000 cops when we are supposed to have 13,000. He thinks we should add million dollar cameras… yeah they work… but for some reason they move the crime one block down… Ask him why the cops have to raise money for their memorial fund for a commorative monument and fund for famlies of fallen cops, meanwhile we have the hired truck scandal totalling millions, but builds park after park… and now he wants the Olympics….why cause he hates cops… about a Democrat who is about presentation and no substance…
Guliani had it right, now New York continues to get better and better….
My girlfriend is in the academy to become a cop and her brothers and father are cops…. its tougher tobecome a cop because the regiment is so much more strict… never mind their insurance, never mind stupid trial lawyers, nevermind the animosity towards them in the communities because of culture… they told her one of the first things you should expect in your first month on the job to spit on… the last thing to expect is to be thanked by anyone in the community for what your do.
The local jail here for example is completely run by the gangs…. and i mean even the officers who watch them… they guys come up in their ranks and make sure they have no records and then have them apply for the jobs… sick
criminals are constanlty working the system… hmm cell phones, internet, (even terrorists do this too, shhh…) All they do is sit around workout, watch CSI, and Law and order…. but your own states, and cities give them more refuge with government aid and “entitlements” instead of the people who are trying to get them off the street. Ask when the last time your local democrat mayor or govenor pushed for more cops and higher sentences and penalties for violent crimes as a campaign platform… you all freaked out when 3 strikes your out was implemented, but it worked damn well…
June 14th, 2006 at 7:17 pmyou all equal protection but not equal enforcment.
June 14th, 2006 at 7:24 pmas far as rightwing hate… i don’t hate liberals… but i here enough liberals and how they hate bush everyday. I didn’t even hate clinton… he was a shrewd man… who stuck his finger in the wind to see where the wind was blowing and try not to piss people off in the end he got stupid.. not to mention the most indicted and sentenced administartion… but hey i thank him for paving the way for a doer whether you like him or not 2 more years… And the Dems have had 8 to come up with ideas that would work but they have none… do any of you know their message and or platform? Last I heard Schumer said last Novemebe “early next year” Well?!
June 14th, 2006 at 7:35 pmi am speaking to government waste. we can afford it when our funds aren’t diverted for the mayor and his parks or his olympic bids, or “hired trucks” Bush isn’t cutting funding that can’t be done in my own state…. but Blagovich likes all his vote getting pet projects…. and our senators love pork….
June 14th, 2006 at 7:39 pmliberals are such lockstep sheeple. Free speech is only for what they say and anything that does not adhere to it is “hate speech”. i just guess that this is face of the new radical left in America. There is a double standard backed by incohernet and hysterical logic that is the same one used by criminals and mentally ill people to justify their actions and thoughts.
June 14th, 2006 at 7:40 pmwhoever said it first said it right, liberalism is a mental disorder
got ya didn’t I there liberal boy! ya just can’t deal with your own hatred and bigotry can you and you are typing a lot less so that means you are getting tired of hearing your stale old lies. Good.
June 14th, 2006 at 9:40 pmthe only thing i am a “victim” of is liberal hypocrisy and hate . keep up the good work untruthful you’ll grow up and get there someday if you just pay attention.
Yet another sterling example of Bush administration logic — there hasn’t been an increase in violent crime because we say there hasn’t been one. Yeah, we know what the statistics say…but who are you going to believe, us or the statistics?
Up is down, black is white, war is peace, freedom is slavery, etc., etc., etc.
June 14th, 2006 at 11:21 pmJoneser,
Try living in AZ with our lovely Maricopa county sherriff, Joe Arpaio, maybe you have heard of him. Ariznoa loves cops. You live in Moonbat Chicago land dude, you need to live in a redder state.
June 15th, 2006 at 12:36 amAnd how is it you know you are right. Are you blessed with ominiscience?
Have you considered the consequences if you are wrong? I sincerely doubt it, for if you had, you would not be so self-assured. You truly have no clue about the path you are heading down.
I did warn you:
Comment by Chris — June 14, 2006 @ 7:40 pm
you have been judged to be “lockstep sheeple.”
You have shown yourself to have a mental disorder.
You are filled with hatred and bigotry. You exemplify hypocrisy and hate.
You’ve damned yourself from your own mouth. Unless, of course, the Son of a Carpenter was wrong about the universal law.
June 15th, 2006 at 3:34 amFunny how Uber-Troll Chris is now ranting how liberals don’t allow free speech (though in fact, he is allowed to spew all his bile on this site without getting banned), when in another thread he advocated ridding the US of all liberals, whom he would like to send to Gitmo or perhaps France and Canada. Oh yeah, Chris the great upholder of free speech!
June 15th, 2006 at 3:39 amDon’t flatter yourself, Chris, that you’re causing any temper tantrums other than your own. I don’t know about bthruthful, but I’m sitting here quite calmly; my house remains in order with no broken dishes or cups on the floor; my husband is watching TV undistrubed; the cats are peacefully asleep, etc. For a man who claims to have been around in Ike’s days, you certainly sound like an immature spoiled child.
And don’t bother PMSing me again; I won’t respond to such silly claptrap (particularly from one who hypocritically complains about sexual innuendos in reference to Ann-thrax Coulter).
chris is right. the hypocrisy and hate coming from the so called progressives here just prove what they are really about. he is very right about why democrats keep losing election. There is no room for debate or discussion and the left wing has become hysterical over everything. Everytime he says something three or four of the left wingers just attack and he does do a good job of fighting them off, but rightfully so he gets pissed and fights back and when he does then the left wingers go just nuts . Listening to the left wingers here is like faciscm at it’s worst. What is wrong with liberals? they have all gone nuts.
June 15th, 2006 at 9:27 amAfter WWI the problem was “how to keep the boys (former soldiers) down on the farm” after they had been to Europe and gay Paree.
Of course, the great depression of 1929 solved that problem for an entire decade, making millions and millions of Americans perfectly willing to work at brutal jobs for subsistance wages.
Bush-Rove-Cheney in 2006 see their task as a similar goal, to take America BACK to the 1920s where disenfranchisement, low wages, segregation, and poverty were the norm in America.
So far, they are succeeding admirably, as the rising crime statistics show.
What is amazing is not how flagrant and brutal the Bush Republicans are about their “hate Americans” agenda, but how very little opposition their receive for their outsourcing, social-slashing, dehumanizing, trash-democracy agenda from people who should know better. (aka “The Democrat opposition” and “the mainstream media.”)
Can anyone IMAGINE a Gore, Kerry, or Clinton SLASHING law enforcement funding, as the crime rate rises, and while simultaneously bragging about “leading the war on terror”?
June 15th, 2006 at 9:57 amTROLL ALERT
June 15th, 2006 at 10:04 amLet’s ignore redhog, whose writing style (if one can call it “style”) is very similar to Chris’. There is no point in arguing with guys who excessively throw out words like “leftards,” “femi-nazis,” “commies/fascists” (as if the two were the same), ” “lockstep shepple,” etc., all the while bellowing that they’ve been victimized by our so-called hate speech. Poor fellows! But let’s not feed them.
From a cousin of mine in Texas, who used to be a Republican:
NEED YOUR HELP
Dear Friends and Relatives:
I have the distinguished honor of being on the committee to raise
$5,000,000 for a monument of George W. Bush. We originally wanted to
put him on Mt. Rushmore until we discovered there was not enough room
for two more faces.
We then decided to erect a statue of George in the Washington, D. C.
Hall Of Fame. We were in a quandary as to where the statue should be
placed. It was not proper to place it beside the statue of George
Washington, who never told a lie, or beside Richard Nixon, who never
told the truth, since George could never tell the difference.
We finally decided to place it beside Christopher Columbus, the greatest
Republican of them all. He left not knowing where he was going, and
when he got there he did not know where he was. He returned not knowing
where he had been, and did it all on someone else’s money.
Thank you.
George W. Bush Monument. Committee
P. S. The Committee has raised $1.35 so far.
June 15th, 2006 at 10:18 amreading lora’s post is like reading a liberal comic book. even attacks Columbus . how very politically correct. we are taking money to have liberal monument but we already have abortion clinics, gay bars and ghettoes so we can just pass for now.
June 15th, 2006 at 1:08 pmfemi- nazi that’s funny! and true
Chris and Joneser and any other Fascist/Republican,
June 15th, 2006 at 5:46 pmThis issue is just one more in a long list of hippocracies that GWB and his ilk expect theAmerican people to swallow day after day. You know like “Nochild left behind” which is drastically underfunded or national security which is achieved by sending almost all of our national guard and regulars to the other side of the planet. By the way a disproportionate number of those soldiers were cops and their jobs cannot be filled now because they have a guarantee that their job will be there if and when they ever come back. But, these reasons are not why I am writing. I am writing in reponse to the insults and hyperbole that populated this thread by both the right and the left. I could barely sift the good from the bad here and I’ll bet others agree. I am a liberal and I am proud of it because by definition it makes me open-minded and willing to exchange ideas. A conservative by definition has a closed mind and can see nothing, but what he has already decided is the truth. In mathematics this is ok 95% of the time. In a socio-political frame though it has no benefits and actually borders on the very definition of insane. You know do the same thing expect a different result…I will however address this one issue on which I can agree with the right. I am a well armed liberal and in addition to the training I have had on those firearms I am a 250 pound weightlifting bio-scientist whose hobby is dressing up in medieval armor and beating other people in armor senseless. So the next time you hurl insults at my brethren just remember that A) I am not a communist, and B) It is very likely that I could kick your ass. So I will always show respect for your view no matter how unreasonable and repetitive and I will expect the same from you and your compatriots. As a member of the SCA in southern California you will have no problem finding Big Mike. I will serve you a beer and some humility anytime you so in desire. Thank you. See you in November (hopefully your backsides as they send you packing back to the neanderthal cave from which you emerged). One more word…Evolve.
Well said Big Mike. I find right wingers absurd definition of liberals amusing, and irritating. Where do those definitions come from? How about from rich chickenhawks with an agenda designed to make themselves richer and/or more powerful. Who are the real sheeple?
June 15th, 2006 at 7:05 pmI too am a very well-armed liberal, a Vietnam vet who used the GI bill to expand my intellectual horizon. It’s called a “liberal” education for a reason. Cons make the huge mistake of branding liberals as pussies. I tell you this though, if the dittoheads and chickenhawks think I will sit on my ditty bag while they destroy my country-think again.
femi- nazi that’s funny! and true
Comment by reddog
redhog/chris,
June 16th, 2006 at 7:44 amGlad to have amused you. But you know what’s really funny is your silly attempt to convince us that you’re two different posters. You don’t have the writing skills to do so. George Will, Bill Buckley, David Brooks–just to name a few literate conservative writers–you are definitely not!
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