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		<title>By: canada debt national</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/06/20/north-korea-missile/comment-page-2/#comment-4782182</link>
		<dc:creator>canada debt national</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Apr 2008 05:02:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;canada debt national&lt;/strong&gt;

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		<title>By: SEA HOLLY</title>
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		<dc:creator>SEA HOLLY</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Mar 2008 09:45:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;SEA HOLLY&lt;/strong&gt;

I Googled for something completely different, but found your page?and have to say thanks. nice read?</description>
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<p>I Googled for something completely different, but found your page?and have to say thanks. nice read?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4410686', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Holly</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/06/20/north-korea-missile/comment-page-2/#comment-647232</link>
		<dc:creator>Holly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jun 2006 20:20:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>UM...
Do any of you remember team Clint-Jong? It was the Clinton Administration that aided the North Korean Government. &quot; The U.S.-supplied light water reactors will produce plutonium sufficient to arm 65 nuclear warheads each year.&quot; Now I know Bush isn&#039;t perfect...but come on. People are still sticking up for Clinton after all his &quot;mistakes&quot;... Let&#039;s put blame where blame is due!!! &lt;strong&gt;Wake up America!&lt;/strong&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>UM&#8230;<br />
Do any of you remember team Clint-Jong? It was the Clinton Administration that aided the North Korean Government. &#8221; The U.S.-supplied light water reactors will produce plutonium sufficient to arm 65 nuclear warheads each year.&#8221; Now I know Bush isn&#8217;t perfect&#8230;but come on. People are still sticking up for Clinton after all his &#8220;mistakes&#8221;&#8230; Let&#8217;s put blame where blame is due!!! <strong>Wake up America!</strong><a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=647232', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Wilbert</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wilbert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jun 2006 17:31:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>EEUU Porque no dejan vivir en paz al resto??? la sed de sangre les ahoga</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>EEUU Porque no dejan vivir en paz al resto??? la sed de sangre les ahoga<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=636602', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Yashmak</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/06/20/north-korea-missile/comment-page-2/#comment-633995</link>
		<dc:creator>Yashmak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jun 2006 14:30:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Do you prefer the old-fashioned kind of murder,such as the invasion of a nation using lies and distortions? 

comment by Steve53

Do you prefer the kind of murder that was going on there before?  Seriously.  Since when has the left been opposed to the removal of an oppressive, genocidal dictator?  I mean, they weren&#039;t back in the Serbia days.  None of them said word one when we went into that country without UN approval under Clinton.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do you prefer the old-fashioned kind of murder,such as the invasion of a nation using lies and distortions? </p>
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<p>Do you prefer the kind of murder that was going on there before?  Seriously.  Since when has the left been opposed to the removal of an oppressive, genocidal dictator?  I mean, they weren&#8217;t back in the Serbia days.  None of them said word one when we went into that country without UN approval under Clinton.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=633995', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Fresh Tasty Ideas &#124; Blog Archive &#124; Thinkfailure.org</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fresh Tasty Ideas &#124; Blog Archive &#124; Thinkfailure.org</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jun 2006 20:43:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Those American patriots at thinkprogress.org openly state they want our missle defense system to fail when North Korea launches their ICBM. Yeah, they really said that. Is it any wonder Americans don&#8217;t trust liberals with matters of national security?   North Korea, liberals, missle defense, military, nuclear, politics, news [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Those American patriots at thinkprogress.org openly state they want our missle defense system to fail when North Korea launches their ICBM. Yeah, they really said that. Is it any wonder Americans don&#8217;t trust liberals with matters of national security?   North Korea, liberals, missle defense, military, nuclear, politics, news [...]<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=633149', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Steve53</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jun 2006 20:39:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wonder how many liberalism is going to murder by negligence and blind idealism and pacifism this time! 

Comment by John Simpson 
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Do you prefer the old-fashioned kind of murder,such as the invasion of a nation using lies and distortions?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=633143', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Steve53</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jun 2006 20:33:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>North Korea,the United States. 
 
Name two countries with dangerous leaders.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>North Korea,the United States. </p>
<p>Name two countries with dangerous leaders.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=633127', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jun 2006 16:58:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t know if the &quot;stunt&quot; line really applies here fellas.  The last td-2 test in 1998 flew over Japanese soil, a case-closed infringement on Japan&#039;s sovereign borders. 

This was a very thin assessment of the MDS and the politics behind its development. Not everything is a conspiracy guys, relax.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know if the &#8220;stunt&#8221; line really applies here fellas.  The last td-2 test in 1998 flew over Japanese soil, a case-closed infringement on Japan&#8217;s sovereign borders. </p>
<p>This was a very thin assessment of the MDS and the politics behind its development. Not everything is a conspiracy guys, relax.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=632665', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: John Simpson</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Simpson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jun 2006 16:06:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank You, Bill Clinton and Madeline Albright! That Agreed Framework really turned out gangbusters, huh? Can&#039;t wait to see a similar Bush plan work as well with Iran. Friggin&#039; liberal wack jobs keep getting us killed by the bushel. If they had stopped hitler in 1936, 50 million people wouldn&#039;t have had to die. I wonder how many liberalism is going to murder by negligence and blind idealism and pacifism this time!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank You, Bill Clinton and Madeline Albright! That Agreed Framework really turned out gangbusters, huh? Can&#8217;t wait to see a similar Bush plan work as well with Iran. Friggin&#8217; liberal wack jobs keep getting us killed by the bushel. If they had stopped hitler in 1936, 50 million people wouldn&#8217;t have had to die. I wonder how many liberalism is going to murder by negligence and blind idealism and pacifism this time!<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=632526', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Bryan J. Smith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bryan J. Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jun 2006 14:41:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, Clinton poured the most money in missile defense since Reagan.  Clinton was big into Defense R&amp;D CEOs (e.g., Loral), and if you were an engineer in the mid-to-late &#039;90s (like I was), Clinton spent billions and billions on TMD as well as NMD.  W. actually fielded TMD, eliminating high-budget R&amp;D and bringing costs down, while pushing NMD forward while Clinton had left it a stangant money pit (long story -- e.g., honoring stupid 1970s Soviet-era agreements).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, Clinton poured the most money in missile defense since Reagan.  Clinton was big into Defense R&amp;D CEOs (e.g., Loral), and if you were an engineer in the mid-to-late &#8217;90s (like I was), Clinton spent billions and billions on TMD as well as NMD.  W. actually fielded TMD, eliminating high-budget R&amp;D and bringing costs down, while pushing NMD forward while Clinton had left it a stangant money pit (long story &#8212; e.g., honoring stupid 1970s Soviet-era agreements).<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=632331', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Yashmak</title>
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		<dc:creator>Yashmak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jun 2006 14:26:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I cannot understand the mentality that would hope our ballistic defense missile system won&#039;t work.  What insanity.

In fact, however, it has successfully intercepted more targets than it has missed.  In the endeavor of trying to shoot a bullet with a bullet, 4 for 7 is not a bad track record.  And that is, in fact, the system&#039;s track record. . .although you&#039;d never know it from the link provided above.  Far from the &#039;better chance of hitting a missile with a slingshot&#039; statement.  I guess cherry picking from the available information on the topic makes it easier to portray this as a &quot;stunt&quot;.

To paraphrase Tacitus, who apparently understood politics far better than the author of the article above, to allow one slight against you is to encourage the commission of others.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I cannot understand the mentality that would hope our ballistic defense missile system won&#8217;t work.  What insanity.</p>
<p>In fact, however, it has successfully intercepted more targets than it has missed.  In the endeavor of trying to shoot a bullet with a bullet, 4 for 7 is not a bad track record.  And that is, in fact, the system&#8217;s track record. . .although you&#8217;d never know it from the link provided above.  Far from the &#8216;better chance of hitting a missile with a slingshot&#8217; statement.  I guess cherry picking from the available information on the topic makes it easier to portray this as a &#8220;stunt&#8221;.</p>
<p>To paraphrase Tacitus, who apparently understood politics far better than the author of the article above, to allow one slight against you is to encourage the commission of others.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=632307', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Zaphod</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zaphod</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jun 2006 11:31:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bah humbug, all that flapping around like fools, its obvious man was never meant to fly, but some of those idiots dream about reaching the moon.

Others dream about protecting their friends, family, and even the local champagne socialists from a deranged pyschotic who is willing to starve his population for the most phallic symbol in a 3rd world dictators imagination, an Inter Continental Ballistic Missile.

So, GWB isn&#039;t the sharpest tool in the shed. His 2nd term is almost up. he can never be the prez again. 
How many americans will GWB starve before he&#039;s gone?
How many north koreans will Kim starve before he&#039;s gone?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bah humbug, all that flapping around like fools, its obvious man was never meant to fly, but some of those idiots dream about reaching the moon.</p>
<p>Others dream about protecting their friends, family, and even the local champagne socialists from a deranged pyschotic who is willing to starve his population for the most phallic symbol in a 3rd world dictators imagination, an Inter Continental Ballistic Missile.</p>
<p>So, GWB isn&#8217;t the sharpest tool in the shed. His 2nd term is almost up. he can never be the prez again.<br />
How many americans will GWB starve before he&#8217;s gone?<br />
How many north koreans will Kim starve before he&#8217;s gone?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=632145', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: rightnumberone</title>
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		<dc:creator>rightnumberone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jun 2006 10:20:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;We have to hope that neither stunt succeeds.&quot;

Why would we have to hope? Clearly, the missile defense system won&#039;t work, right? The systems &quot;have never been realistically tested and are known to have serious operational problems. They have as much chance of hitting an incoming missile as a kid with a slingshot.&quot;

How could it possibly work? If it can&#039;t possibly work, then why would we have to &quot;hope&quot; that it doesn&#039;t.

It almost sounds like you think it MIGHT work, and that if it did work, that would be a disaster.

It&#039;s almost as if you think, on the off chance it DOES work, then it wouldn&#039;t have been a stunt after all, but rather an effective way of demonstrating to North Korea that even if it spends money building missiles instead of feeding its people, it would have been a waste of their time.

And it almost seems like you &quot;hope&quot; it doesn&#039;t work, so that you can be proven right in your assertion that it could never work.

Otherwise, you&#039;d look like a complete idiot for having said it could never work better than a kid with a slingshot.

Oh ... &lt;em&gt;now I understand why you hope it doesn&#039;t work&lt;/em&gt;. Makes sense now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;We have to hope that neither stunt succeeds.&#8221;</p>
<p>Why would we have to hope? Clearly, the missile defense system won&#8217;t work, right? The systems &#8220;have never been realistically tested and are known to have serious operational problems. They have as much chance of hitting an incoming missile as a kid with a slingshot.&#8221;</p>
<p>How could it possibly work? If it can&#8217;t possibly work, then why would we have to &#8220;hope&#8221; that it doesn&#8217;t.</p>
<p>It almost sounds like you think it MIGHT work, and that if it did work, that would be a disaster.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s almost as if you think, on the off chance it DOES work, then it wouldn&#8217;t have been a stunt after all, but rather an effective way of demonstrating to North Korea that even if it spends money building missiles instead of feeding its people, it would have been a waste of their time.</p>
<p>And it almost seems like you &#8220;hope&#8221; it doesn&#8217;t work, so that you can be proven right in your assertion that it could never work.</p>
<p>Otherwise, you&#8217;d look like a complete idiot for having said it could never work better than a kid with a slingshot.</p>
<p>Oh &#8230; <em>now I understand why you hope it doesn&#8217;t work</em>. Makes sense now.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=632088', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Bluestocking</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bluestocking</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jun 2006 09:25:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On Fox News, they had a commentator on who was on to talk about this missile - and he said so clearly â€œâ€¦.if it IS a test.â€ - I thought that was a nice scare tactic to Fox watchers. I couldnâ€™t believe that anyone â€œcredibleâ€ would even suggest that N. Korea is preparing a pre-emptive strike on the US. Now I realize that the government of N. Korea might be a little nuts (possibly an understatement), but surely they realize that a single strike on the US would mean â€œLake N. Koreaâ€ in short order. --  MrTimPA

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If North Korea were the only country at issue, Tim, I might be inclined to agree with you. However, it appears that you and a number of other people on this board are failing to take into consideration North Korea&#039;s neighbor to the north.  Very large, more people than any other country on earth, nuclear power...goes by the name of China?  Yes, I know that the United States is doing business with them but it is not necessarily safe to conclude from this that they are our friends or our allies -- and no matter what dealings they may have with us, I sincerely doubt that they would take kindly to seeing nukes and/or other assorted weaponry, armaments, etc. lobbed so close to their front porch.  Let&#039;s not forget that China has its own issues with the United States on the subject of Taiwan -- and if I&#039;m not mistaken, didn&#039;t Chinese forces fight alongside the North Koreans during the Korean War?  Even though China has come out against the development of nuclear weapons by North Korea and is not quite the unconditional ally they once may have been, the two countries nevertheless have a long-standing friendship -- and if forced to choose between casting their lot with us against North Korea, or with North Korea against us, there&#039;s no guarantee that they would choose us.  To those who scoff at the idea of such a small country as North Korea serving as the fuse to the powderkeg, let&#039;s not forget that World War I was touched off by one citizen (not even the ruler) of a comparatively small nation (Serbia) who assassinated the heir to the throne of a much larger nation (the Austro-Hungarian Empire).  Such things ARE possible -- unlikely, perhaps, but nonetheless possible.

Let&#039;s face it...if there is any country left in the world which still has the potential to present a serious threat to the United States in a head-to-head conflict, that country is almost certainly China.  If we succeeded in winning such a conflict (although this is by no means assured either), there is at least a fair-to-middling chance that our victory would be something of a Pyrrhic one.  The ties between China and North Korea cannot and should not be dismissed from the equation out of hand.  My  concern (although I sincerely hope it proves itself unjustified) is that a successful North Korean missile test will put us in something of a damned-if-you-do, damned-if-you-don&#039;t position.  If the missile test should succeed and our missile defense fail, it would show that we are not invulnerable.  I may vehemently disagree with the views of my conservative opponents -- yet contrary to what some no doubt might be inclined to believe, I would not wish them to fall victim to a mushroom cloud (I only wish I could say the same for many of them).  I&#039;m inclined to think that one of the earlier posters may be right when he thinks it unlikely that Kim Il-Jong would go to such extreme lengths to develop weapons that he has no serious intention of using. If the missile test succeeds and our missile defense succeeds in shooting it down, Kim Il-Jong strikes me as unstable enough to the point where he might still declare this an official Act of War -- he has, after all, indicated that he has developed nuclear weapons and will use them if the United States takes military or other aggressive action against the United States.  The idea of a country the size of North Korea declaring war on the United States may seem ludicrous to the point of being laughable...but to my way of thinking, add China to the equation and suddenly it doesn&#039;t seem quite so funny as it did a second ago.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On Fox News, they had a commentator on who was on to talk about this missile &#8211; and he said so clearly â€œâ€¦.if it IS a test.â€ &#8211; I thought that was a nice scare tactic to Fox watchers. I couldnâ€™t believe that anyone â€œcredibleâ€ would even suggest that N. Korea is preparing a pre-emptive strike on the US. Now I realize that the government of N. Korea might be a little nuts (possibly an understatement), but surely they realize that a single strike on the US would mean â€œLake N. Koreaâ€ in short order. &#8212;  MrTimPA</p>
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<p>If North Korea were the only country at issue, Tim, I might be inclined to agree with you. However, it appears that you and a number of other people on this board are failing to take into consideration North Korea&#8217;s neighbor to the north.  Very large, more people than any other country on earth, nuclear power&#8230;goes by the name of China?  Yes, I know that the United States is doing business with them but it is not necessarily safe to conclude from this that they are our friends or our allies &#8212; and no matter what dealings they may have with us, I sincerely doubt that they would take kindly to seeing nukes and/or other assorted weaponry, armaments, etc. lobbed so close to their front porch.  Let&#8217;s not forget that China has its own issues with the United States on the subject of Taiwan &#8212; and if I&#8217;m not mistaken, didn&#8217;t Chinese forces fight alongside the North Koreans during the Korean War?  Even though China has come out against the development of nuclear weapons by North Korea and is not quite the unconditional ally they once may have been, the two countries nevertheless have a long-standing friendship &#8212; and if forced to choose between casting their lot with us against North Korea, or with North Korea against us, there&#8217;s no guarantee that they would choose us.  To those who scoff at the idea of such a small country as North Korea serving as the fuse to the powderkeg, let&#8217;s not forget that World War I was touched off by one citizen (not even the ruler) of a comparatively small nation (Serbia) who assassinated the heir to the throne of a much larger nation (the Austro-Hungarian Empire).  Such things ARE possible &#8212; unlikely, perhaps, but nonetheless possible.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s face it&#8230;if there is any country left in the world which still has the potential to present a serious threat to the United States in a head-to-head conflict, that country is almost certainly China.  If we succeeded in winning such a conflict (although this is by no means assured either), there is at least a fair-to-middling chance that our victory would be something of a Pyrrhic one.  The ties between China and North Korea cannot and should not be dismissed from the equation out of hand.  My  concern (although I sincerely hope it proves itself unjustified) is that a successful North Korean missile test will put us in something of a damned-if-you-do, damned-if-you-don&#8217;t position.  If the missile test should succeed and our missile defense fail, it would show that we are not invulnerable.  I may vehemently disagree with the views of my conservative opponents &#8212; yet contrary to what some no doubt might be inclined to believe, I would not wish them to fall victim to a mushroom cloud (I only wish I could say the same for many of them).  I&#8217;m inclined to think that one of the earlier posters may be right when he thinks it unlikely that Kim Il-Jong would go to such extreme lengths to develop weapons that he has no serious intention of using. If the missile test succeeds and our missile defense succeeds in shooting it down, Kim Il-Jong strikes me as unstable enough to the point where he might still declare this an official Act of War &#8212; he has, after all, indicated that he has developed nuclear weapons and will use them if the United States takes military or other aggressive action against the United States.  The idea of a country the size of North Korea declaring war on the United States may seem ludicrous to the point of being laughable&#8230;but to my way of thinking, add China to the equation and suddenly it doesn&#8217;t seem quite so funny as it did a second ago.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=632065', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Thuy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thuy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jun 2006 06:18:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also wanted to mention that ...just like in poker, when your down to your last few chips... you go &quot;all in&quot;.  The same can be said with a country that has left its ppl starving in the dark (ie no electricity... no night lights, no heat, and dead cars) for decades, all to fund and fuel their military growth, is probably set on using them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also wanted to mention that &#8230;just like in poker, when your down to your last few chips&#8230; you go &#8220;all in&#8221;.  The same can be said with a country that has left its ppl starving in the dark (ie no electricity&#8230; no night lights, no heat, and dead cars) for decades, all to fund and fuel their military growth, is probably set on using them.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=631971', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Thuy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thuy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jun 2006 06:09:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So this article is based on an analysis done in in June 2001?  And that missile that was launched in 1998, went clear over Japan and into the Pacific, indicating that N.Korea is capable of sending a missile straight into Tokyo.  Maybe no concern to You who&#039;s writing in the US, but this Taepodong-2, which is fully fueled, has a range of 9300km, enough to go to Alaska, California, Washington state, Etc.  Whether or not this missile will detonate and dump nuclear radiation is not the only problem we face.  Just having a missile land in San Francisco, or Pearl Harbor Hawaii, will be enough to stir a lot of destruction.  2 planes Hitting the twin towers with nuclear core what so ever, killed over 3,000 people.  So I don&#039;t see why your taking this lightly?!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So this article is based on an analysis done in in June 2001?  And that missile that was launched in 1998, went clear over Japan and into the Pacific, indicating that N.Korea is capable of sending a missile straight into Tokyo.  Maybe no concern to You who&#8217;s writing in the US, but this Taepodong-2, which is fully fueled, has a range of 9300km, enough to go to Alaska, California, Washington state, Etc.  Whether or not this missile will detonate and dump nuclear radiation is not the only problem we face.  Just having a missile land in San Francisco, or Pearl Harbor Hawaii, will be enough to stir a lot of destruction.  2 planes Hitting the twin towers with nuclear core what so ever, killed over 3,000 people.  So I don&#8217;t see why your taking this lightly?!<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=631968', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Bob Jones</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jun 2006 05:45:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hope the missle defense does not succeed too, and I hope Kim&#039;s missle lands on your head, you asshats</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hope the missle defense does not succeed too, and I hope Kim&#8217;s missle lands on your head, you asshats<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=631960', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Juan C</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jun 2006 04:40:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;if there was a way to 100% guarantee the likes of Kim Jong-il wonâ€™t use a nuclear device&lt;/blockquote&gt;
You mean like when US used twice nukes over civilians back in 1945? Oh, you added this: 
&lt;blockquote&gt;against the US&lt;/blockquote&gt;

ahhh, it really doesnt feel the same when the nukes are pointing at you, right?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>if there was a way to 100% guarantee the likes of Kim Jong-il wonâ€™t use a nuclear device</p></blockquote>
<p>You mean like when US used twice nukes over civilians back in 1945? Oh, you added this: </p>
<blockquote><p>against the US</p></blockquote>
<p>ahhh, it really doesnt feel the same when the nukes are pointing at you, right?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=631918', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: katy</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jun 2006 04:21:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Does the Bill Clinton â€œcryingâ€ at the Ron Brown funeral qualify as a political stunt?
Comment by rickd â€” June 20, 2006 @ 6:06 pm&lt;/em&gt;

hmm... the &quot;&lt;strong&gt;true colors&lt;/strong&gt;&quot; always show up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Does the Bill Clinton â€œcryingâ€ at the Ron Brown funeral qualify as a political stunt?<br />
Comment by rickd â€” June 20, 2006 @ 6:06 pm</em></p>
<p>hmm&#8230; the &#8220;<strong>true colors</strong>&#8221; always show up.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=631893', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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