The House Judiciary Committee this morning “unexpectedly passed a Democratic resolution calling on the Justice Department to turn over all requests made by the National Security Agency and other federal agencies to telephone service providers to obtain information without a warrant.”
Yeah, right, they’ll comply.
June 21st, 2006 at 11:00 amshow me the money
June 21st, 2006 at 11:01 amTotally a political move on the repugs part!!! Even if they receive anything they will sit on it.
June 21st, 2006 at 11:02 amDo you think the Republican’ts are feeling the heat of the mid-term elections or is this just a ploy to get the information and declare that Bush & Co are doing a brave and noble thing spying on us for our own safety?
June 21st, 2006 at 11:02 amThe only way that Republicans would let this get through is if there was nothing there to find. I think we all know that domestic spying is nothing more than a ploy by Liberals.
June 21st, 2006 at 11:03 amWell, let’s see, choose your response –
Sorry, but you folks don’t have the security clearance you need to view the material.
Sorry, but we can’t release that information to you because it would compromise national security.
Sorry, but we can’t release that information to you because it is covered by executive privilege.
Sorry, but due to the president’s inherent powers we don’t have to do anything we don’t want to do.
NO.
June 21st, 2006 at 11:08 amWally – you need an all of the above
June 21st, 2006 at 11:12 amI doubt the Congress has the balls to do anything about the NSA spying on the entire nation, because they are either accomplices in allowing it or compromised by dirt dug up on them by the NSA?!
June 21st, 2006 at 11:12 am#6, Right on, Wally!
June 21st, 2006 at 11:18 amThat’s the only reason this is passing,
but now they can say, “We passed a bill
by the Dems”, knowing all along no one
can get through that NSA door but Cheney.
AT&T couldn’t wait to comply.
Now they can charge exorbitant fees to the
Feds in the name of fighting the war on terra.
Domestic Spying? We’re paying for them to
do it while we also pay our monthly telcom bill.
Who said you couldn’t have it both ways?
Tap, Tap, anybody there?
Democrats must have had pictures of some sort of the republicans voting this through.
my bet – the repubs all had myspace accounts that listed themselves as being high school kids,
June 21st, 2006 at 11:32 amNotta a chance in the world they ever give this stuff up. They’ll invoke “security” as many times as necessary.
June 21st, 2006 at 11:33 amDon’t get too optimistic, folks.
June 21st, 2006 at 11:52 amLet’s see how ths shakes out.
#6, Wally, I am sure any and all of your options will be used at any given time.
Eh, the telephone companies didn’t handle requests from the NSA directly, they sold their info to a third party who sold it to the NSA.
June 21st, 2006 at 11:59 amMore smoke and mirrors.
June 21st, 2006 at 12:39 pm#6 – All of the above. Hurry up, November…
June 21st, 2006 at 1:18 pmIt’s a sad state that this thread is getting hit.
People just don’t trust congress to do the right thing regarding Domestic Spying.
America is going to open up and squeeze a big fat turd on the Democrats if they don’t do something about Domestic Spying.
June 21st, 2006 at 1:26 pmI’m sorry, I forgot Dick Cheney’s response –
June 21st, 2006 at 1:41 pmF*ck you
#17 – That one, too.
June 21st, 2006 at 1:44 pmWelcome to the new Secret Multinational Corporate State of America
The government is killing off services by purposely performing incompetently. If the people don’t understand that the government that they have is purposely being drowned by those in power, then they don’t deserve to live in a free country. The Constitution and Bill of Rights are then no longer any better than scratch paper to be trashed. The people did not question 9/11, the under manned illegal war on Iraq when it was show to be so, the massive amount of money being given to companies in no bid contracts, privatization of our parks and recreation areas, watering down or eliminating clean air, water and allowing increases in all forms of waste and pollution, … corporate energy policy, drug policy, ….
Corporate corruption is in the trillions. Derivatives are fabricated assets of chance on putting dollars on a bet to break in a calculated direction (asset modeling!) and is banked before the race is even run, if it is even run. The US companies own $17.5T in this BS while investing little. It is like saying that you own your house when you move in and you put 5% down and make no payments. This makes the savings and loan scandal look completely honest. Meanwhile, corporations are being paid big money to build in Iraq, Afghanistan, New Orleans and everywhere else in the world and doing none of the work but getting paid! Accounting is worse than any snake oil sales job ever as even good will has been put on the books at values of billions by multinational corporations. When have you been able to sell good will and is there any in this environment? Depreciation is accelerated beyond any reasonable definition so assets used in production, where there is production, is valued at nothing. Offshore tax havens are amazing as the cost of a patch of land that does nothing costs millions every year. Two sets of books are kept by multinationals, one to state earnings and one to pay taxes. Audit trails are not available or incalculable by the creation of mazes that lead auditors to dead ends. Top management makes money out of thin air in retroactive low fixed price deals of stock shares that are in the hundreds of thousands of shares to millions.
The end of the 5 day week and 8 hour day, loose of pensions, increase in the number of low paying wage jobs while increasing H1B visas, mass movement of infrastructure jobs overseas, outsourcing… all with massive tax benefits. Work more and have less purchasing power. Homes that are not owned but mortgaged with financial service scams of interest only loans…
US is not competitive in any area except weapons for trading. Subsidized farming as bad as the Soviets ($100B in subsidies). Loss of manufacturing. Companies use Asset Light Enron style of accounting to falsify manufactured goods production (when the entire product was made overseas) – the only thing that many manufacturing companies own in the US is the margin between cost of manufacture overseas and sales price into the sales chain. Products are “manufactured” here in name only, just as Enron owned none of the assets (i.e. gas pipelines and stations) but just the margin on gas.
June 21st, 2006 at 2:52 pmThat is sort-of a shocker.
June 21st, 2006 at 10:09 pm