ThinkFast AM: June 21, 2006
ThinkFast AM: June 21, 2006
The two missing U.S. soldiers found yesterday were beheaded and showed signs of being “brutally tortured before their death.” Their remains are being sent to the U.S. for DNA testing, suggesting they “had been wounded or mutilated beyond recognition.”
The recently appointed head of U.S. Customs and Border Protection spoke out against a wall being built along the Mexican border. “I don’t support, I don’t believe the administration supports a wall,†Commissioner W. Ralph Basham said yesterday. “It’s not practical.”
The House will vote this week on an estate tax “compromise†bill from Rep. Bill Thomas (R-CA). “To lure Democratic senators from Washington state and Arkansas, Thomas included a lucrative tax break for the timber industry, pushing the total cost of the bill to nearly $280 billion.â€
Not exactly a free press in Afghanistan: “In a coordinated action this week,” Afghan intelligence operatives delivered an “unsigned letter” to TV stations and newspapers “ordering journalists to report more favorable news about the government.”
After revelations that AT&T set up a secret room in San Francisco that provided the National Security Agency with “full access to its customers’ phone calls,” Salon now reveals that AT&T has a “more integral” secret room in its Bridgeton, MO facility. “Although they work for AT&T, they’re actually doing a job for the government,” said a former AT&T employee.
Jack Abramoff’s lawyer, Abbe D. Lowell, is calling for stricter ethics reform “that goes beyond what Congress is willing to even debate.”
The AP has obtained the FBI files on playwright Arthur Miller, a “longtime liberal who opposed the Vietnam War†and “supported civil rights.†(In 1956, Miller famously refused to name names before Joseph McCarthy’s House Un-American Activities Committee.) One FBI report said Miller’s “religious” wedding ceremony was a “cover up” since he was a “cultural front man” for the secular Communist Party.
The conviction of Abramoff-linked former Bush official David Safavian yesterday “could embolden federal prosecutors to seek additional indictments against cronies of Abramoff.” Said one analyst, “This is the type of conviction that tends to loosen tongues.”
More media consolidation on the horizon? The FCC today “will embark on a new attempt to revamp media ownership restrictions,” with FCC Chairman Kevin Martin joining large media conglomerates in pushing for increased consolidation. (Just in time, The Nation has updated their graph of the National Entertainment State.)
Conservative alumni at colleges such as Dartmouth, Hamilton, and Colgate University, are attempting to take over alumni association boards and are pulling in right-wing bloggers to help them out.
And finally: Doctors are investigating the deadly effects of World Cup fever. “An exciting match can cause fans’ hearts to skip not one beat, but several, leading to a rather worrying incidence of cardiac arrest among soccer die-hards.†In an ongoing study on the phenomenon, German heart attack victims “are asked precisely what they were doing at the time of the attack, whether they were following football on the radio or television, or even watching the pundits after the game.â€
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At times like this, even you DDH’s have to like Fox News
It’s a mite good time, but I’d say it’s at least 5 minutes.
June 21st, 2006 at 9:14 amThe two missing U.S. soldiers found yesterday were beheaded and showed signs of being “brutally tortured before their death.†Their remains are being sent to the U.S. for DNA testing, suggesting they “had been wounded or mutilated beyond recognition.â€
Karma.
June 21st, 2006 at 9:30 amAnyone up early enough to see Bush speak in Vienna? I only caught the last few minutes where a reporter asked Bush why he thinks he’s failed so miserable to gain the hearts, minds, and souls of the Europeans in relation to the war (only 14% approve there).
He recited the exact same answer we Americans have heard over and over. That he believes he is doing the right thing. That he doesn’t govern based on polls. And that time will prove he was right. Worst of all though, he claimed America had a transparent democracy, and we debate things in the open. The man who is at the head of the most SECRETIVE presidency in history is claiming transparency, and open debate?!?
Then, (I believe it was) Wolfgang Schuessel decided to say that it was absurd to think that what Bush was doing was dangerous because the same kind of actions were taken by America to free Germany. Unbelievable. That he thinks Bush has actual freedom on his mind like past presidents is just astounding. I was hoping SOMEONE would have had the guts to call out Bush on this televised around the world event.
June 21st, 2006 at 9:33 amThe two missing U.S. soldiers found yesterday were beheaded and showed signs of being “brutally tortured before their death.†Their remains are being sent to the U.S. for DNA testing, suggesting they “had been wounded or mutilated beyond recognition.â€
Awful. 1000’s of awful for every soldier’s death or injury.
June 21st, 2006 at 9:34 amThe two missing U.S. soldiers found yesterday were beheaded and showed signs of being “brutally tortured before their death.â€
That may be true, but at least they weren’t degraded by having a dog leash placed around their necks and in turn earning the Islamic world’s moral outrage.
June 21st, 2006 at 9:35 am“That may be true, but at least they weren’t degraded by having a dog leash placed around their necks and in turn earning the Islamic world’s moral outrage.”
Maybe we should have just beheaded those people instead, apparently thats A. OK in the islamic world.
June 21st, 2006 at 9:37 amI was hoping SOMEONE would have had the guts to call out Bush on this televised around the world event.
Comment by NewNameAcquired — June 21, 2006 @ 9:33 am
I’ve begun to wonder about this. It’s their job to ask the tough questions and yet no one is. Why? I cannot come to any ratioal conclusion except – fear.
Isn’t that why people don’t do what they are supposed to – fear of the consequences?
June 21st, 2006 at 9:37 am“Isn’t that why people don’t do what they are supposed to – fear of the consequences?”
It’s also why they don’t do what they aren’t supposed to, on the plus side.
June 21st, 2006 at 9:39 am“(In 1956, Miller famously refused to name names before Eugene McCarthy’s House Un-American Activities Committee.)”
Funniest typo of the day!
(Hint: Wrong McCarthy. And no, the puppeteer would also be wrong.)
June 21st, 2006 at 9:40 amWasn’t someone saying something about Jimmy Carter and 48 hostages? You know, how they all got back alive?
June 21st, 2006 at 9:42 amPlease fix link on second-to-last item.
June 21st, 2006 at 9:43 amMaybe we should have just beheaded those people instead, apparently thats A. OK in the islamic world.
Comment by squegeeboo — June 21, 2006 @ 9:37 am
I certainly am not happy that this happend to an American. I feel for the families of these boys and am horrified at what they went through. Having said that, Americans cannot take the moral high ground here. NO torture is acceptable. NONE. We have American sodier’s on trial for murder and an investigation into Haditha. How can you not expect it to come back to haunt us?
June 21st, 2006 at 9:44 am#7 Unbelievable What consequences might they be fearing? Being fired from the “liberal media” (which is likely to managed by conservative power)? Probably. Being shut off from access to politicians? Probably. Maybe we need a true liberal/progressive “work protection program” for media people who face such consequences and need a safe place to work and make a living. And we need to make the shunning of access (think Helen Thomas) a story in itself.
June 21st, 2006 at 9:46 amLast in:
The new member of the board of the consulting board for the global policy of the Fox group, personally apointed by Rupert Murdoch: José MarÃa Aznar (right-right-winger), former President of Spain and firm ally (lapdog? lackey?) of Bush in the rising of Iraq War, against the Spaniard’s people, and now FORMER, again, thanks to the will of the same Spanish people. Oh, and he is the first non-WASP member of the board. Gee, what an honour.
June 21st, 2006 at 9:48 amThe entire Frontline episode on “The Dark Side” concerning Cheney from last night is up on YouTube:
http://www.youtube.com/results?search=Frontline&sort=video_date_uploaded
I intend to watch it when I get a chance. Supposed to be pretty damning stuff.
June 21st, 2006 at 9:50 am[...] Good news folks, the days of backroom deals seem to be giving way to telecom “secret rooms.” What exactly are these? Well it looks like the good folks at AT&T have two rooms, one in San Fran and we are just now learning of another in Bridgeton, Missouri, that allow the glorious National Security Agency to monitor and track AT&T’s customer’s phone calls. Doesn’t everyone feel more secure? I am thrilled that private companies are doing the investigative work for the federal government. WHAT IS GOING ON? Are people really ok with the idea giving the federal government such easy access to this information? Is this really neccessary to “win” the war on terror? Can anyone answer these questions with a straight face? I am starting to have a better understanding of how ignorance is bliss. [link] [...]
June 21st, 2006 at 9:51 am“Although they work for AT&T, they’re actually doing a job for the government,†said a former AT&T employee.
Aint privatization great? They get to track your calls and make money doing it.
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The conviction of Abramoff-linked former Bush official David Safavian yesterday.
A few more of these please.
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Seixons
And a lot less of these.
June 21st, 2006 at 9:54 amPLC,
That makes sense. We are mostly forced to be 100% employed at all times in this country, and I could see ho wthe fear of losing a job or credentials from a career you’ve put your life into building would give pause to taking the risks. It fits.
George Bush is mental child – with his poor attitude and sense of entitlement. He’s very vindictive and we see what he did to Joe Wilson for speaking the truth. Which he’s gotten away with.
I think an amnesty program would be great. But, I think there are loopholes there to get at people – or their spouses or something else. So it might help. I guess we find out by trying it… :)
I also think we need to find some independently wealthy journalists. I mean, isn’t that why George Soros created AP and TP? Nothing to fear? I still think he needs his own network… :)
June 21st, 2006 at 9:55 amC’mon folks….leave the trolls to their own pitiful lives. They have zero there so they come here to boost ego points. What could be more dull than engage in that.
Unbelieveable, that was kind of cruel saying the two guys who got ambushed & beheaded was karma. It may have been, but putting it like that is somewhat cheap.
June 21st, 2006 at 9:56 am(Thanks for fixing the McCarthy.)
June 21st, 2006 at 10:00 amUnbelieveable, that was kind of cruel saying the two guys who got ambushed & beheaded was karma. It may have been, but putting it like that is somewhat cheap.
Comment by kindness — June 21, 2006 @ 9:56 am
How so? I said the same thing as Jules, but just with less words.
I’m not into sugar-coating stuff. Please don’t expect me to be, or you’ll take my messages the wrong way. It’s not my nature to beat around the bush.
June 21st, 2006 at 10:01 am“Conservative alumni” link is broken.
June 21st, 2006 at 10:03 am.
karma – Hinduism & Buddhism. The total effect of a person’s actions and conduct during the successive phases of the person’s existence, regarded as determining the person’s destiny.
it’s not known if those 2 guys were directly involved in any abuse of iraqis… until it’s proven they DID, “karma” is not the proper term to use
June 21st, 2006 at 10:10 amThe entire Frontline episode on “The Dark Side†concerning Cheney from last night is up on YouTube
I watched this last night, and it’s a MUST SEE. It’s really good. I realized there are more reasons than I knew why Cheney and Rumsfeld are evil.
June 21st, 2006 at 10:11 ami heard al franken yesterday talking about american POWs from the first gulf war, that they were not mistreated by the iraqi captors… we’ve come a long way…down…
June 21st, 2006 at 10:14 amBillionaire arms dealers want to keep all of their money. The inheritance tax is unfair to billionaires, it costs them too much. They should be allowed to keep all of that money. What if they war should stop and they would be stuck with those millions upon millions of dollars worth of war machinery inventory and no war to supply? They need to keep those profits to offset the days and years of warless peacetime. Show some compassion for billionaires; support the repeal of the inheritance tax. It is the least you can do for your country.
Have a heart, jeesh. Work a little harder; it won’t take that much more effort to fill in the holes that the billionaire arms dealers make with their depeleted uranium bombs.
Apply for a job with I. G. Farben.
June 21st, 2006 at 10:14 amNot exactly a free press in Afghanistan: “In a coordinated action this week,†Afghan intelligence operatives delivered an “unsigned letter†to TV stations and newspapers “ordering journalists to report more favorable news about the government.â€
They’re learning the lessons we’ve taught them.
June 21st, 2006 at 10:16 amThe AP has obtained the FBI files on playwright Arthur Miller, a “longtime liberal who opposed the Vietnam War†and “supported civil rights.†(In 1956, Miller famously refused to name names before Joseph McCarthy’s House Un-American Activities Committee.) One FBI report said Miller’s “religious†wedding ceremony was a “cover up†since he was a “cultural front man†for the secular Communist Party.
If we think this kind of stuff isn’t going on again today, we’d probably be wrong.
June 21st, 2006 at 10:19 amFrom Rush Limbaugh’s website: “I perused the liberal kook blogs today, and they are happy that these two soldiers got tortured. They’re saying, ‘Good riddance. Hope Rumsfeld and whoever sleep well tonight.’ I kid you not, folks.â€
How can we challenge this asinine, slanderous comment? I didn’t find any “contact” method on his website.
June 21st, 2006 at 10:21 am#26 – Oh no! Not the billionaires! We must do something to help!
June 21st, 2006 at 10:23 amI’ll be first in line to deliver a swift kick in the ass with my steel-toed boots.
They’re learning the lessons we’ve taught them.
Comment by Zookeeper — June 21, 2006 @ 10:16 am
remember when bush met with putin? i remember thinking the along same line – that putin will impart his tricks-of-the-trade secrets to bush – and, hey! look what we got!
June 21st, 2006 at 10:23 amI didn’t find any “contact†method on his website.
Comment by PLC (Patriotic Liberal Christian)
The secret to Rush Limbaugh’s success…
June 21st, 2006 at 10:25 amit’s not known if those 2 guys were directly involved in any abuse of iraqis… until it’s proven they DID, “karma†is not the proper term to use
Comment by katy — June 21, 2006 @ 10:10 am
They were representatives of the United States of America’s military who tortures people, therefore it is exactly the right word,
June 21st, 2006 at 10:26 amIt’s not my nature to beat around the bush.
Comment by unbelievable — June 21, 2006 @ 10:01 am
That’s funny!!! I actually wish it was (OK bad joke).
People scream when “bad stuff” hasppens to an American overseas and yes it does suck, but I totally agree with unbelievable and since she already had the karma line and apparently people like spongebob didn’t “get it,” and of course that lawyer thing, I had to add more wording!!
June 21st, 2006 at 10:27 amrush@eibnet.com
June 21st, 2006 at 10:29 am#29 – PLC, Media Matters usually keeps track of this kind of stuff:
http://mediamatters.org/index
June 21st, 2006 at 10:31 am29, apparently, Rush is either back on his drugs or somebody is coaching him to say the most absurd quips that can come to an abnormal mind. Maybe Donald Rumsfeld asked him to say something about unknown knowns.
June 21st, 2006 at 10:32 amyeah, he certainly would never get the idea to say absurd things by reading lib blogs. nah couldn’t happen
June 21st, 2006 at 10:34 amMore AT&T news..
from SFGate
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/chronicle/archive/2006/06/21/BUG9VJHB9C1.DTL&type=business
here’s a sample – more at the link
AT&T has issued an updated privacy policy that takes effect Friday. The changes are significant because they appear to give the telecom giant more latitude when it comes to sharing customers’ personal data with government officials.
The new policy says that AT&T — not customers — owns customers’ confidential info and can use it “to protect its legitimate business interests, safeguard others, or respond to legal process.”
The policy also indicates that AT&T will track the viewing habits of customers of its new video service — something that cable and satellite providers are prohibited from doing.
Moreover, AT&T (formerly known as SBC) is requiring customers to agree to its updated privacy policy as a condition for service — a new move that legal experts say will reduce customers’ recourse for any future data sharing with government authorities or others.
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“While your account information may be personal to you, these records constitute business records that are owned by AT&T,” the new policy declares. “As such, AT&T may disclose such records to protect its legitimate business interests, safeguard others, or respond to legal process.”
It says the company “may disclose your information in response to subpoenas, court orders, or other legal process,” omitting the earlier language about such processes being “required and/or permitted by law.”
The new policy states that AT&T “may also use your information in order to investigate, prevent or take action regarding illegal activities, suspected fraud (or) situations involving potential threats to the physical safety of any person” — conditions that would appear to embrace any terror-related circumstance.
June 21st, 2006 at 10:34 amThat’s funny!!! I actually wish it was (OK bad joke).
I thought the same thing after I posted it :)
People scream when “bad stuff†hasppens to an American overseas and yes it does suck, but I totally agree with unbelievable and since she already had the karma line and apparently people like spongebob didn’t “get it,†and of course that lawyer thing, I had to add more wording!!
Comment by Jules — June 21, 2006 @ 10:27 am
And I thought the neocons liked sound bytes? I thought for sure he was gonna get that one – but thanks for the elaboration. We’re definitely saying the same thing. It is blood on Bush’s hands. All of Iraq is. Sickening.
The two boys were taken because of who they represent, and not personally selected on their own – therefore the karma is not theirs but the United States authorities’ karma – specifically Cheney, Rumsfeld and Bush.
I’m always surprised when I have to explain these things… Thanks for getting it. :)
June 21st, 2006 at 10:35 am#36 Flash Thanks for e-mail address for rush. It will do no real good except to help me feel that I did my part, but I sent the gasbag the following:
How does this type of slanderous, attention-seeking comment honor the U.S. soldiers recently tortured and killed in Iraq? What if one or both of them were “liberal”, would that make any difference to you? Or are you absolutely certain that no U.S. soldier is “liberal”?
June 21st, 2006 at 10:36 amSanto is back…
June 21st, 2006 at 10:38 am#38 Amy Either put up by citing any example of a liberal blogger saying anything close to what Rush claimed or shut up. And don’t try any “free speech” crap on me because slander isn’t protected speech.
June 21st, 2006 at 10:40 amLimbaugh: ‘Good riddance. Hope Rumsfeld and whoever sleep well tonight.’ I kid you not, folks.â€
That’s ridiculous. It goes against the ideology of being a liberal.
June 21st, 2006 at 10:42 amwell, darn, so it is karma that is the reason i am so pissed off and worried about the future, because i am a US citizen and therefore represent and am responsible for all those fools who voted against their best interest and landed us in this fascist/corpoatist mess…
nah, i don’t think so… and i don’t blame those 2 soldiers either…
payback are hell, but this ain’t karma…
that’s all i’m saying about that…
June 21st, 2006 at 10:43 amWhat I find so amusing is that reupugnuts come here knowing it is a progressive site and then get mad at what we have to say. I do not visit neo con sites because it would sicken me to read their trash. It is bad enough I subject myself to their inane utterances here!!
June 21st, 2006 at 10:44 amunbelievable
The thing that really sickens me with these two soldiers, is that in the end, nothing will change. Torture will continue on Gitmo, America will continue the GW Terror, and all that will happen is that the names of the victims on both sides will be turned into propaganda for both sides. Both sides will crow false victory, and it will not end.
June 21st, 2006 at 10:46 amyou poor little victim
June 21st, 2006 at 10:47 amamy you are not going to get a paycheck this weak if that is all you have. Dang, at least try to be a decent troll!!
June 21st, 2006 at 10:49 amamy
Explain?
June 21st, 2006 at 10:49 amyou should get a medal for all that you subject yourself to. such sacrafice. the world is beholden to you
June 21st, 2006 at 10:51 am#51 – Amy is just upset because someone dropped a house on her sister.
June 21st, 2006 at 10:52 amamy
I’m sorry you’ve lost me here, what the hell are you talking about?
June 21st, 2006 at 10:54 amnobody’s talkin to you boy. get a grip
June 21st, 2006 at 10:56 am#49 Amy If you’re referring to me as “poor little victim”, implying that I’m taking a helpless victim stance, you have no clue how real victims act. Rush, you, and others who make unsubstantiated personal claims are OFFENDERS and I, for one, will not be a helpless victim if I am a target. I’ll fight back! So again, prove it or shut up with your simplistic, childish name-calling as your only contribution to serious situations.
June 21st, 2006 at 10:56 am#29 PLC
June 21st, 2006 at 10:57 amI think this is the Email to rush lintball.
rush@eibnet.com
i’m beginning to see what you mean jules
June 21st, 2006 at 10:58 am#55 – I’ve got a really good grip on my arguments, sweetie.
You’d better be off, before someone drops a house on you too!
June 21st, 2006 at 11:00 amOh amy, I am sorry I had thought you were a troll. You mean you don’t like listening to noe cons either?
June 21st, 2006 at 11:01 amamy
I mean, really, what the heck are you talking about? I mean, you have me intrigued here, who is playing the victim?
June 21st, 2006 at 11:02 ampayback are hell, but this ain’t karma…
that’s all i’m saying about that…
Comment by katy — June 21, 2006 @ 10:43 am
You’re misunderstanding karma, and the context in which is was used – as the only time you speak to me is to try to show me up.
It is the United States military’s karma for torturing soldiers, that U.S. soldiers were tortured in return. Hence the saying “What goes around comes around.”
June 21st, 2006 at 11:02 ami can go on grading papers, and busting you twits up all day if i fell like it
June 21st, 2006 at 11:02 amThe elusive Michael Steele, the Republican Lt. Gov. running for Senate in Maryland, is holding yet another secret fundraiser with a high level Washington insider. Tomorrow Republican Senate majority leader Bill Frist will be holding an unannounced closed-door fundraiser for Steele in Ashton, Maryland (in northern Montgomery County). This event coming after a similar, yet highly publicized event the past weekend with John McCain — the so called moderate Senator from Arizona.
Last week Steele launched his new video touting himself as an outsider, proclaiming “if you think Washington works just fine, I’m not your candidate.†Well, publicly he will dress himself in moderate clothes, but if you follow the money you find otherwise. He is 100% connected with DC insiders, taking money directly from the main gears that keep the Republican political machine moving. Steele has held a secret capitol hill fundraiser with Karl Rove, a closed door fundraiser with Cheney in April, and pretended to snub Bush by avoiding him in Baltimore in May.
Read more… http://collegedemsofmd.blogspot.com/
June 21st, 2006 at 11:04 amtesting testing
June 21st, 2006 at 11:05 amWhat I find so amusing is that reupugnuts come here knowing it is a progressive site and then get mad at what we have to say. I do not visit neo con sites because it would sicken me to read their trash. It is bad enough I subject myself to their inane utterances here!!
Comment by Jules — June 21, 2006 @ 10:44 am
Seems like common sense to me… But I guess we’re dealing with people with no common sense (blind faith in their ‘authorities’, who you should never question).
Plus, I get the feeling that a lot of them under-estimate us. The heathens must be ignorant not to believe what we believe, so lets go enlightening them and convert them to our way of thinking…. And then they find they are way in over their heads because they are largely uneducated on the positions they hold, unlike us. That’s why there are a lot of former conervatives in here… :)
June 21st, 2006 at 11:06 am#61 – Ms. Amy is the victim of falling houses. Her sister (the Wicked Witch of the East) fell prey to a very nice single family home that originated from somewhere in Kansas.
There is a forcast of more houses in Ms. Amy’s future if she continues to make no sense at all and to rely upon outdated talking points from neo-con dunces.
Begone!
June 21st, 2006 at 11:07 am#63 Amy You’re still doing it – making a bunch of empty comments consisting mostly of name-calling (twits, boy, victim) and have yet to offer ANY substantial proof of your arguments. Come on, show all of us the “papers” you are “grading”.
June 21st, 2006 at 11:07 amDemocrat Soldier
Is that why nobody ever sees her when its raining?
June 21st, 2006 at 11:09 amit’s not known if those 2 guys were directly involved in any abuse of iraqis… until it’s proven they DID, “karma†is not the proper term to use
Comment by katy — June 21, 2006 @ 10:10 am
There is also this belief – that karma is a wheel, that all the negative things people do just goes up and spins on the karmic wheel, and where it stops and who is affected is a matter of randomness.
June 21st, 2006 at 11:10 am#66 – I will agree that most of the trolls simply repeat talking points without any forethought. Some just engage in name calling and refuse to consider constructive dialogue.
Then there are the few that actually want to have a reasoned debate. Few and far between, these are the ones who are not really “neo-cons” but conservatives of the old school who are just as upset over Pres. Bush and his cabal as are we. They just have better manners and less likely to insult without thinking about the subject.
June 21st, 2006 at 11:11 amAnd what happened to those soldiers, no matter how horrifying, this is what happens when you occupy a country that doesn’t want you there.
June 21st, 2006 at 11:12 amoh i see. you gotta hate bush the same as you all do, and then you become a good conservative. good one
June 21st, 2006 at 11:13 amBoth sides will crow false victory, and it will not end.
Comment by Bruce Gorton — June 21, 2006 @ 10:46 am
They don’t get it either. That actions have consequences. For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction. We tortured their people, so they tortured ours.
Why, if we had less people, I’d be for anarchy. But, we have too many peope not to have some forms of givernment. The problem is they attract the most corruptable people, and they all suck. They seem to exist to collect taxes which they mis-appropriate and wage wars. Like we need that?
June 21st, 2006 at 11:14 ami can go on grading papers, and busting you twits up all day if i fell like it
Comment by amy
Nice take, amy. I mean the “twit” thing. As long as you are grading papers, please note that the word “I” is capitalized. Also, “busting you twits up” is poor english. I think “busting up you twits” is the proper term. Finally the word feel is mispelled as “fell” and you need to finish your sentence with a period.
(_!_)
June 21st, 2006 at 11:14 am#71 – like the guy who works with spongebob dang I cannot remember his name! He is intelligent and usually has well thought out posts even though he’s a republican. I would not put him in the neo con category though.
June 21st, 2006 at 11:15 amThe two soldiers that were mutilated beyond recognition is actually good news for the neocon US government.
It will galvanize support for the troops, two grieving families will gain support from friends and neighbors, and, above all, increases in the funding for the ‘war’ in Iraq.
Billionaire arms dealers will gain more business with the US gov. Politicians gain political capital too.
It’s a win-win situation. War economies cause suffering and grief, but the gains for rich people increase. Everybody should be happy about that.
Worship the rich. Forget about ‘thou shalt not kill’ and ‘thou shalt not covet,’ they’re just a couple of obsolete commandments from a fictitious god. A golden calf offers much more.
We should all be shouting for more war and lots of it.
Is that too gruesome of a sarcastic remark?
June 21st, 2006 at 11:16 amAmy is just upset because someone dropped a house on her sister.
Comment by Democrat Soldier — June 21, 2006 @ 10:52 am
Hilarious! Now that is amy’s only real purpose here – comedic relief :)
June 21st, 2006 at 11:18 amJoe – that was priceless. Isn’t it cute how she believes she is “busting us up?”
What does that mean anyway? I always thought it meant to make someone laugh. Is she attempting humor?
June 21st, 2006 at 11:20 am63. Grading papers?? WTF – a teacher? Yeah I believe that. Your spelling is atrocious.
June 21st, 2006 at 11:20 am#73 – Oh, you poor child. You just swig that kool-aide and don’t even bother to ask why you’re doing it or what’s in it. Your poor little victim.
Sweetie, since you’re so busy “grading papers”, I’ll make this easy for you to understand.
“Good” conservatives don’t have to hate Pres. Bush, nor does everyone at this site “hate” Pres. Bush.
“Good” conservatives look at Pres. Bush without the “You must love the leader!” glasses the neo-cons want everyone to wear. They say things like “Hey, isn’t fiscal responsibility a conservative quality? Why isn’t Pres. Bush even considering the money he’s hemorrhaged since he was elected? Why is Pres. Bush ignoring the average citizen in favor of special rights and pro-corporate policies? Why does Pres. Bush want to shred the constitution?â€
I do not hate Pres. Bush, but I do hate many of the things the man has done to destroy the constitution, engage in multiple illegal activities, and to bankrupt the nation both fiscally and morally.
There now, sweetie! I’m sure that will help you as you turn away from the lemming behavior that neo-cons require of their faithful and to use your mind for something other than keeping your head from caving in.
June 21st, 2006 at 11:20 am#71 + # 72 That’s how we got into this ridiculous Iraq War. “Amy’s” posts are exactly parallel to the “debate” we had about how to handle Saddam and the terrorists. “You’re either with us or you’re against us”, agree or be “Anti-American”, seek and destroy. We who disagree have got to SHOUT, separately and in unison, to be heard.
To Amy: I’ve said what I need to, you haven’t. I’m done.
June 21st, 2006 at 11:20 amand as queen of the morons. what would be your purpose?
June 21st, 2006 at 11:21 amIt seems the trolls have only one bullet left – the “hate bush” mantra.
June 21st, 2006 at 11:23 amthanks 82. now go get your shine box
June 21st, 2006 at 11:23 amamy’s remarks seem to be right on for the republican talking points. Little talking points that make her look STUPID.
June 21st, 2006 at 11:25 amI would not put him in the neo con category though.
Comment by Jules — June 21, 2006 @ 11:15 am
Tundra. He’s stop posting here though. Said he’d rather go do than debate. So he’s putting together a charity golf event.
He is a good guy. Called himself Right of Center. Definitely was. Not a neocon.
June 21st, 2006 at 11:26 amAnyway…to get back on the track amy is attempting to derail….Rachel Maddow “the predictor” predicted on Air America this morning that there will be more indictments coming down by the end of July. I hate to get my hopes up, but hey, with this administration they could not be much lower!
June 21st, 2006 at 11:26 am#83 – Why, her job would be to appoint you the “Duchess of Being A Complete and Total Ass”, and “Baroness of Foot In Mouth Disease” and “Countess Comic Reliefâ€!
Of course, the job of “I’m a neo-con whore†and “I just repeat the talking points and don’t question my orders†is a natural fit for you, so no need for those appointments.
By the way, since you’re more than willing to sell your soul for a shiny new ideology that you refuse to question, I’ve got a really nice bridge to sell you!
June 21st, 2006 at 11:26 amWhat happened to the 2 soldiers is very tragic, but nobody seems to notice that their deaths are being used by the Pentagon to claim Al-Qaeda goons did it, which has a smell to it of some kind of staged event, like the beheading of Nick Berg supposedly by al-Zarqawi himself > the supposed new bogeyman replacement for Zarqawi now beheads 2 soldiers? Very convenient for the Bush Regime, but who actually beheaded them remains a mystery or a conspiracy perhaps?
June 21st, 2006 at 11:26 amI watched Frontline last night and it cleared up a lot of things that was on my mind. I always wondered how all educated mind could stand by an listen to Bush get all thecredit of running this goverment as dumb as he is. Bush is thier Charley McCarthy thier being Chaney, Rumsfeld and Rice. The Dark Side should seen by every voter. God help this country.
June 21st, 2006 at 11:27 amyou still upset about the beating i gave you the other day sister soldier? get over it. i did
June 21st, 2006 at 11:29 am#88 – I live to listen to Rachel Maddow in the morning! I love her “drunk prospector”!
She’s really got a great show. I just wish that, here in Austin, they’d stop blocking the Monday Morning 7:00 am Air America Radio News. Very distrubing.
June 21st, 2006 at 11:30 amNavy Vet… I wanted to see it but could only stay awake for a portion of it. I wake up at 4:45 so my eyes shut pretty early.
Just the part I saw made my skin crawl. Does anyone know if and/or when it will be repeated?
June 21st, 2006 at 11:31 am#92 – Riiiiggghhhttttt. And Pres. Bush is loved the world over, and the budget is in the black, and Usama bin Laden is on the run, and there’s no place like home!
My God, woman! Do you actually listen to the drivel that escapes your mouth?
If you truly feel that you “got one up on me”, then have I got a bridge to sell you! It’s really nice, and it’s going cheap!
June 21st, 2006 at 11:33 am#79. Busting us up is kind of a republican term these days. Far from a progressive defination of laughing, it means to be like GWB: the great divider.
Correct me if I’m wrong, but at least amy did get the term “twit” correct. That’s me, of course: Webster’s dictionary gives this defination to twit: “To taunt, ridicule, or tease, especially for embarrassing mistakes or faults.”
Of course, it also says the British Slang term of twit refers to “an idiot.” I wonder if she thinks we are all slang types?
June 21st, 2006 at 11:34 amDemocrat – I love Rachel, even more then Randi Rhoades. She is intelligent, funny, witty and very respectful. I would love to meet her.
June 21st, 2006 at 11:34 am#91 – Putting the resident troll (Little Miss Amy) in her place aside, I did not get the chance to see the Frontline program. I heard from a friend that it’s a great exposure piece. I’ll set my TiVo to get the program if they re-run it.
Navy Vet, do you know if Frontline has a transcript of that show available? I’d like to peruse it between giving trolls the red-a$$.
June 21st, 2006 at 11:36 am#88 Jules I hope Ms. Maddow is correct. I’m surviving here in Ohio under Bob Ney’s reign. Somehow, I mistakenly got on his supporter list and have been mailed some of his ridiculous campaign mail. I also sent him an e-mail against the proposed Constitutional Amendment to “protect” marriage and got a form letter in response that actually touted how he supported the amendment, proving that neither he nor his staff actually read the content of my e-mail. This guy is a poster child for this narrow-minded version of conservatism. We need to find out if he’s truly corrupt before November or I’m afraid he could still be re-elected.
June 21st, 2006 at 11:37 am#96 – Morning, Joe!
Little Miss Amy has delusions of adequacy, and must raise her opinion of herself by (sadly attempting) to tear others down.
June 21st, 2006 at 11:39 amRather then engage in debate (of which she is more than aware that she’ll lose) she would rather hurl invective and insult.
you still upset about the beating i gave you the other day sister soldier? get over it. i did
Comment by amy
Come on, be honest here. Its really you, I-RIGHT-I, writing in drag, huh?
June 21st, 2006 at 11:40 amAmy, you stupid bitch!
Go back to the playground and meet
some new friends. We’re all adults here
and you’re in over your head.
If you have AT&T for a vendor, seriously
consider switching. When you do, be sure
to include a short note telling them why.
Nothing gets the United Corporations of
America’s attention like losing accounts.
Tell them you’re encouraging all your friends
to terminate, as well.
PEACE…It could happen.
June 21st, 2006 at 11:42 amcome on sister soldier cry some more for mama. i love it so
June 21st, 2006 at 11:42 ambring it on simple ones
June 21st, 2006 at 11:43 amPLC – I am sorry to hear you are subjected to Ney. I cannot believe anyone would consider voting for him.
Last week I was driving through PA and passed this old beat up truck with an old man (who looked pretty beat up also) in it. He had Santorum bumper stickers in his back window. It saddens me to know that this person believes that Santorum is the best PA could do.
June 21st, 2006 at 11:44 amthe only time you speak to me is to try to show me up.
Comment by unbelievable — June 21, 2006 @ 11:02 am
un- it’s great that you have such a high opinion of yourself, but as for my motives in commenting, you really should not flatter yourself so much…
June 21st, 2006 at 11:45 amremember, i once told you “it’s not always about you”… still true…
#101 – Ewww! Now I’m going to have to wash my eyes! That’s a scary concept!
I doubt it’s true. Amy is a shrill harpy that cannot win arguments and continually claims she “wins” after failing miserably. Sort of like Pres. Bush. ;-)
“Right between the I’s” always writes in bold and is full of his won “rightness”.
Well, now that you mention it, if you take away the bold, Little Miss Amy does sound mysteriously like “Right between the I’s”.
Hey Little Miss Amy, lift your skirt and see if you’re an “outie” or an “inny”!
June 21st, 2006 at 11:46 amPlease don’t let “amy” hijack this thread — or any other thread. She’s not here to contribute anything; she’s only here to derail us. IRI is our knight in shining armour compared to this type of troll. Please don’t allow this to continue!
And while I’m asking, could we please not fight among ourselves?
June 21st, 2006 at 11:48 amHey back at you, Democrat Soldier. As for amy hurling invectives and insults, remember Webster’s defination of a “twit” being one who taunts and ridicules.
I’m heading down to the bar for a frothy one, so will check back later to see what kind of beating she hands out to you here.
June 21st, 2006 at 11:48 ami know it would make no difference to you sister.
June 21st, 2006 at 11:48 amJim West and Michael Huffington hired ‘amy’ to be with us today.
Gay ‘Republicans’ are… so gay.
June 21st, 2006 at 11:49 amJoe and Dem – I had thought that she (it?) sounded a lot like MA. But she does seem like a simpleton.
June 21st, 2006 at 11:49 amIs it time to make Amy a non-person in this thread and give her no more attention?
#105 Jules Ney vs. Santorum – who is worse? Tough call. I guess I’d rather have Ney, at least his hobby is golf (the only sport I have any hope in playing, and enjoy). I’m not sure what hobbies Santorum might have hidden in his closet.
June 21st, 2006 at 11:49 amthe shut-ins are imploding
June 21st, 2006 at 11:49 amThe Republitards must be running out of people
June 21st, 2006 at 11:51 amto Troll for them.
Jeesh! Now they’re sending out retarded ones.
Is this Jenna?
Jenna…put away the coke for a bit, at least until
you can spell.
that was easy
June 21st, 2006 at 11:52 amNey doesn’t scare me as much as santorum. Santorum would sell his mother into slavery if he thought god told him too.
June 21st, 2006 at 11:53 amgo worship your golden calf some more, amy. you know, the lost US government.
Maybe get some more drugs from Rush. He’s got plenty of them.
You need them.
June 21st, 2006 at 11:53 am#105 – When driving between Austin and San Antonio, I saw a truck with three “Rush is right!” bumper stickers.
I quickly put up my “Flush Rush!” And “Rush lies all the time!” clingers on the back window of my truck and slowly passed this guy. I drove next to him for a few miles and I saw out my rear view window as he read my message, and then he tried to catch up. After a few more miles, I let him catch up to me and started to yell and holler and give me the finger.
I waved back and smiled, and that made him madder.
It’s a great feeling to twist the tail on the monkeys!
Jules, personally I think that Rep. Ney is going to go down faster than Rush Limbaugh on a pile of pills. He’s too tainted by the stench of the neo-cons and the true “conservative” voters are starting to realize how much he’s screwed them.
June 21st, 2006 at 11:54 amyour master ordered you to ignore me.
June 21st, 2006 at 11:55 am#120 – Poor pathetic troll says “What?”
June 21st, 2006 at 11:57 amAnd while I’m asking, could we please not fight among ourselves?
Comment by Zookeeper — June 21, 2006 @ 11:48 am
This is what sets us apart from neo cons; we do not have the need to agree on every subject. I respect the right of my fellow progressives to disagree with my position on any subject matter. I would not trash them or their reputations for doing so. I will save that for the neocons!
June 21st, 2006 at 11:57 amnah, you’re too much of a twit to ignore. anyway, I’ve got your goat now. the poor thing is underfed and abused, just like the soldiers the US government has sent to Iraq to do the empire’s dirty work.
When you want your goat back, let me know.
bye
June 21st, 2006 at 11:58 amso amy, is that all you got? little one liners that make absolutely no sense?
June 21st, 2006 at 12:00 pmThis is what sets us apart from neo cons; we do not have the need to agree on every subject.
Comment by Jules
I understand what you are saying, Jules. I’m talking about the silly crap like what the definition of “karma” might be. We have lost trueblue and Sharon Cox over our constantly allowing trolls to take over our threads, and I’m sick of our own bickering.
June 21st, 2006 at 12:01 pmI wonder if Abbe D. Lowell will get any recognition for his push for higher ethical standards?
Of course, this will leave most of the elected Republicans scratching their heads wondering what “ethics” are, and if fries come with it. ;-)
June 21st, 2006 at 12:02 pm#124 – She (he?) can only work with what’s she’s got!
I guess the short non sequiturs are the only thing her brain can handle. Don’t forget, she’s got all those “papers” to grade!
June 21st, 2006 at 12:06 pmZoo – yeah I agree – there should be a choice of battles – but I am not going to get in the way of others expressing their opinion. Even Amy – but I have got to tell you that is a tough one cause she is so weird. I can handle many things but weirdness is just, well, weird!!
Dem – I love when I see people reading my bumper stickers. I live in Dallas so it is especially fun!! My daughter and I could not take my car when we drove across country because my husband was worried about what the red state neo cons would do to us or the car. Isn’t that sad? A person does not have to agree with me but for my husband to be afraid of someone actually harming me because of my opinion is just sad!
June 21st, 2006 at 12:07 pmremember, i once told you “it’s not always about youâ€â€¦ still true…
Comment by katy — June 21, 2006 @ 11:45 am
Oh please, you can try to say that after the fact, but it’s obvious that you did that to try to put me in my place – just like everything you have ever said to me. How’s that working for you?
June 21st, 2006 at 12:08 pmOf course, this will leave most of the elected Republicans scratching their heads wondering what “ethics†are, and if fries come with it. ;-)
Comment by Democrat Soldier — June 21, 2006 @ 12:02 pm
OK – I vote for this as the funniest (and most astute) post of the morning!!!
June 21st, 2006 at 12:13 pm#125 Zookeeper Good point, progressives/liberals need to show some basic unity (not lock-step but basic agreement on values) and civility to be a force in the political debate. I like the fact that we can discuss fine points where we disagree. Usually, these differences are only on the surface and, through our discussions, we find out the fundamental values we agree on. I like the fact that we don’t have a “master” to kow-tow to, unlike the neo-cons. I also agree that we can’t let trolls distract us. However, I think we have to follow them in their arguments or rantings long enough to let them trip themselves up, point out their hypocrisy and inconsistency, and then tie what they have posted back to the thread. To everyone here, if you ever see me getting too caught up in the troll’s rants, please let me know and challenge me to tie back to the thread.
June 21st, 2006 at 12:15 pmAn association of men who will not quarrel with one another is a thing which has never yet existed, from the greatest confederacy of nations down to a town meeting or a vestry.
—Thomas Jefferson
No matter how small you divide the group, they will argue about something. Human nature.
June 21st, 2006 at 12:16 pmJay Randal:
I think you are on to something about who killed those two soldiers.
June 21st, 2006 at 12:19 pmIf you’ll notice the Pentagon keeps hinting that Al Hamdi did this himself,and using msm to get their message out(Barbara Starr.et.al.)
My theory has been that Al Hamdi is all ready being held,then to be blown up,picture shown,and then Bush/Pentagon have propaganda victory.
I didn’t # this post because ‘amy’is obviously Santo,and will be gone soon.
,
Experience demands that man is the only animal which devours his own kind, for I can apply no milder term to the general prey of the rich on the poor.
—Thomas Jefferson
I’m putting together a ‘Greek Revival’ presentation, and am peppering the presentations with quotes from our founding fathers. They seem appropriate under the current shape of our government to be remembered here as well…
June 21st, 2006 at 12:21 pm#94 – Jules you can watch the entire “Dark Side” on the YouTube link provided in #15.
June 21st, 2006 at 12:21 pmcould not take my car when we drove across country because my husband was worried about what the red state neo cons would do to us or the car.
Comment by Jules — June 21, 2006 @ 12:07 pm
my daughter was worried about the same thing when we drove to austin texas this past november…
June 21st, 2006 at 12:23 pmeven i was a bit surprised that we got no reactions – UNTIL we were in austin – there, several people would smile and even comment “i like your bumper stickers!”
my car’s rear end leaves no question about how i feel about w and this mess he’s made…
i do get some looks and jeers in my own town though…
I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them.
June 21st, 2006 at 12:25 pm—Thomas Jefferson
#136 – Acutally, I’ve never heard of a car in Texas being damaged from the bumper stickers.
The only sticker I had removed from my truck was “I’m gay and own a gun. That’s ‘Mr. Fag’ to you!”
It was removed when I was at the Austin Chille Festival of 2005! Go figure!
June 21st, 2006 at 12:32 pm#61 – Ms. Amy is the victim of falling houses. Her sister (the Wicked Witch of the East) fell prey to a very nice single family home that originated from somewhere in Kansas.
Comment by Democrat Soldier — June 21, 2006 @ 11:07 am
A house from KS Dem Soldier? The same state that gave us Pat Roberts? I think not. Check again, I’m sure it must have come from MA
June 21st, 2006 at 12:32 pmComment by PLC (Patriotic Liberal Christian) — June 21, 2006 @ 12:15 pm
Comment by Jules — June 21, 2006 @ 12:07 pm
Thanks for the validation, PLC & Jules. ;)
June 21st, 2006 at 12:33 pm#137 Unbelievable
June 21st, 2006 at 12:34 pmKeep those Jefferson quotes coming. He is my favorite founding father. It’s amazing how intelligent, insightful, and prophetic he was.
unbelievable
If you are doing a Greek Revival presentation, throw in some stuff about Socrates.
June 21st, 2006 at 12:35 pmIt will be found an unjust and unwise jealousy to deprive a man of his natural liberty upon the supposition he may abuse it.
June 21st, 2006 at 12:36 pm—George Washington
PLC,
Me too! I am in love with the man’s mind! Those were some amazing FoundingFathers who resisted the corruption of government. Wish we could exhume them, clone themand run them for office again :)
For you:
We did not raise armies for glory or for conquest.
—Thomas Jefferson
When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty.
—Thomas Jefferson
When a man assumes a public trust he should consider himself a public property.
June 21st, 2006 at 12:42 pm—Thomas Jefferson
#138 – That’s a great bumper sticker, Dem Soldier!
An idiot in the small town where my parents live (pop. 3200) tried to run me into the river after the 2004 elections because I had a Kerry/Edwards bumpersticker on my car — the only sticker I had at the time. He was in one of those ridiculously huge trucks with the huge tires, American flags on sticks on both sides, gun in the rack, naked woman tire flaps, GWB stickers, Confederate flag stickers, the whole deal. It was the standard rebel yell, special finger waving, beer in hand idiocy. I waved back — with all my fingers.
June 21st, 2006 at 12:43 pmBruce,
Socrates, Plato and Aristotle, among other Greek philosophers have been represented in the ‘Ancient Greek’ presentation. My justification in doing so will be that in order to understand why the architecture of the time was designed as it was, it is first important to understand teh people who were living at that time and their state of mind… But my real reason is to get these kids to think :D
June 21st, 2006 at 12:45 pmBelief in a cruel God makes a cruel man.
June 21st, 2006 at 12:48 pm—Thomas Paine
Good morning UB. Wow, Jefferson. What a radical eh? Such ‘pre-911′ thinking. If Jefferson were alive today he would be immediately be swift-boated for that kind of talk.
June 21st, 2006 at 12:48 pmUnbelievable, ever been to DC? Quotes like that are literally written in stone EVERYWHERE. They must wear blinders when they go outside of the capital building.
June 21st, 2006 at 12:52 pmI didn’t # this post because ‘amy’is obviously Santo,and will be gone soon.
,
Comment by dark star — June
Nah, I was just over at Raw Story, and Santo is currently over there stinking up a thread about a new “conservative encyclopedia”.
June 21st, 2006 at 12:53 pmThose who expect to reap the blessings of freedom must, like men, undergo the fatigue of supporting it.
June 21st, 2006 at 12:53 pm—Thomas Paine
If Jefferson were alive today he would be immediately be swift-boated for that kind of talk.
Comment by Quadrajet — June 21, 2006 @ 12:48 pm
Seriously – no doubt… How ironic that the people who currently hold power owe to these men, and yet they act in complete opposition to their ideals and efforts. Hypocrisy is alive and well in the White House!
June 21st, 2006 at 12:57 pmAll wars are follies, very expensive and very mischievous ones.
June 21st, 2006 at 12:58 pm—Benjamin Franklin
Those are the lines which always go through my head when I hear Thomas Paine.
June 21st, 2006 at 1:01 pmThey must wear blinders when they go outside of the capital building.
Comment by madashell — June 21, 2006 @ 12:52 pm
No kidding. Theyreally either don’t get it or don’t care. The place is a shrine to the ideals of our forefathersand what this country represents, and how can they miss that?
I haven’t been since July 4th about a decade ago… Was the best place I have ever spent the holiday. I still think about it. Fireworks over the Washington Monument and Lincoln Memorial reflected in the Potomac… Was about 110 degrees too – but I think it just kept the crowds managable :)
June 21st, 2006 at 1:03 pmThose are the lines which always go through my head when I hear Thomas Paine.
Comment by Bruce Gorton — June 21, 2006 @ 1:01 pm
That’s a good one…
June 21st, 2006 at 1:06 pmNothing more scarier to a liberal than black conservative… thank goodness it wasn’t a woman… the horror!!!
June 21st, 2006 at 1:08 pmunbelievable
It’s off of a very good CD.
June 21st, 2006 at 1:09 pmDem – I bet someone took your bumper sticker because they wanted it for themselves.
Oh, I forgot to tell you all. On our trip we stopped in Hope, Ark. to visit the birthplace of the greatest president during my lifetime. I bought a bumper sticker and a t-shirt that says “I miss Bill”
Don’t you just love it. I really do miss Bill!!!
June 21st, 2006 at 1:09 pm#157 joneser
June 21st, 2006 at 1:11 pmWho is “it” – what are you referencing? I’m a liberal who doesn’t care what color the conservative is – only what their values, goals, and decisions are. And THAT does often scare me!
# 150 barfly:
Santo is also over here too.Go look at last night’s ‘Think Fast’,and check some of this morning’s posts.
June 21st, 2006 at 1:13 pmBush’s Baghdad Palace
by Nicholas von Hoffman
Among the many secrets the American government cannot keep, one of its biggest (104 acres) and most expensive ($592 million) is the American Embassy being built in Baghdad. Surrounded by fifteen-foot-thick walls, almost as large as the Vatican on a scale comparable to the Mall of America, to which it seems to have a certain spiritual affinity, this is no simple object to hide.
So you think the Bush Administration is planning on leaving Iraq? Read on.
June 21st, 2006 at 1:21 pmThe American Empire has a new palace. Hitler and Nero would surely approve…
I love how one of their storis for why the liberated Iraq is to free the people from a tyrant who killed people and mis-spent their money. Seems that the Pot doesn’t even know it’s black…
June 21st, 2006 at 1:46 pm#159 – While there were a number of Pres. Clinton’s policies with which I disagreed, he was a much better President than the current clown we’ve got stinking up the White House.
As I said in another post, we should repeal the 22nd Amendment, and let Pres. Bush and Fmr. Pres. Clinton run in 2008. I know who would win. It would really twist the tails of the monkeys when Pres. Bush lost by an overwhelming margin!
June 21st, 2006 at 1:47 pmDem – that is the reason the repugs hate him so much.
June 21st, 2006 at 2:13 pmAs I said in another post, we should repeal the 22nd Amendment, and let Pres. Bush and Fmr. Pres. Clinton run in 2008. I know who would win. It would really twist the tails of the monkeys when Pres. Bush lost by an overwhelming margin!
Comment by Democrat Soldier
Don’t even think it, Dem Soldier, my heart just gave a huge lurch. GWB for 4-8 more years after they steal another election? *screaming*
June 21st, 2006 at 2:22 pm#160 PLC
There was a discussion concerning Blackwell in Ohio. I was refering to the Ohio GOP candidate for Blackwell. I say that because it has always been my experience as a 20 something black male and I watch how black conservatives have been treated. I wasn’t speaking of you personally.
June 21st, 2006 at 2:24 pm#167 joneser
I didn’t think it was me but I also didn’t see any discussion about Blackwell, which I would have noticed because I’m an Ohioan supporting his opponent, Ted Strickland. For my own learning, how have you seen black conservatives treated and what might Blackwell experience?
June 21st, 2006 at 2:37 pmJudd and all posters…..Just passing through, Please forgive, totaly off topic…….What’s the latest on the Dubi ports deal.????? Heard on a news report a couple of day’s ago they have not sold and are running it as originaly planned, claiming they can’t find buyers. Yah right..Another off topic,, selling of the air lines, any spin on that one.?………..Blessings
June 21st, 2006 at 2:45 pmFrom CNN.com:
8 troops to be charged with murder in death of Iraqi
Iraqi colleagues killed U.S. soldiers, military says
Bush: Iran dragging feet; N. Korea rattling nerves
Kin ‘devastated’ to hear of soldiers’ deaths on TV
First minimum wage hike in decade defeated
Dobbs: Congress stiffs working Americans
GOP complaints delay action on Voting Rights Act
CNNMoney: Stocks sizzle: Dow jumps 100
Woman discovers birth mom was her co-worker
‘This is some nasty,’ dying inmate says
Gay buzz makes ‘Superman’ actor, director talk
Bear visits daycare, causes a lockdown
Bid to increase minimum wage nixed
Official: Marines, sailor to face charges in Iraqi death
June 21st, 2006 at 3:03 pmHey Sharon – Great tip!
All this Bush regime lunacy is making my head spin! They are treating this country like a disposable diaper…
June 21st, 2006 at 3:06 pmYep! worse actuely, more like a clogged toilet and bottom feeder bush can’t read the instructions on the drano can…His advisers keep telling him to continue to flush the same shit and the american public is denied a bucket, mop and plunger……off and running…Blessings to all…
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June 21st, 2006 at 5:02 pm166 – When I hear the comments about the Republicans “stealing” elections, I’m lead to believe the left is upset because they’re no longer the only one’s doing that!. Q. How many Democrats does it take to elect someone to office? As many as needed, regardless of whether they’re alive, dead, living in the area, felons, illegal aliens, etc…..
I hope you’re not still hung up on the 2000 election, or do you think the 2004 race was “stolen” too?
June 21st, 2006 at 5:55 pmrickd…
2000 was given to Bush by the Supreme Court. Gore won the popular vote, and from a BBC (independent) recount Florida as well.
Go read the Rolling Stone article on 2004.
I’m not a Conspiracy Theorist (just ask the 9//11 gang), but I do believe that foul play occured. Enough for Bush to never have been president and possibly to have not been a second term president. Karl Rove is a sociopath who needs to win at any costs and is known for playing dirty.
Also, before you go there – I’m not a Democrat. I thnk they are also corrupt, just currently not as much.
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