Coulter Derides Call For New Iraq Strategy, Endorses Lieberman Approach
Coulter Derides Call For New Iraq Strategy, Endorses Lieberman Approach
Right-wing pundit Ann Coulter appeared on Fox News this afternoon to discuss the war in Iraq. Coulter derided the lawmakers who have called for a redeployment strategy from Iraq, questioning whether “FDR [had] to deal with this during World War II.” She argued that the only type of politician she “admires” is someone like Sen. Joseph Lieberman (D-CT) because he “does want to defend America and fight the war on terrorism.” Lieberman has argued “our troops must stay” in Iraq. Watch it.
Full transcript:
CAVUTO: Is this an extreme view – that the war is actually going to be a positive issue, I’m paraphrasing here, for Republicans in November.
COULTER: Oh sure, of course — because Democrats can’t be trusted with national security. I mean, we see it in these frivolous proposals to have a timeline, a plan, “what’s the plan?” Can you imagine FDR having to deal with this during World War II? “What’s our schedule? When do we pullout? Can we have a timeline? What’s your plan, what’s your plan, what’s your plan?”
CAVUTO: What did you make of Hillary Clinton saying we can’t have an open-ended policy but by the same token we have to have a sense of closure for this?
COULTER: Umm, yes. There is a clear position. There is something to run on.
CAVUTO: So you would admire more at least the politician that says a timetable to get out than going back and forth?
COULTER: No. I would admire a politician, not as much as basically your run of the mill garden-variety Republican, but as far as Democrats go like Lieberman, who apparently does want to defend America and fight the war on terrorism. He is the one facing a primary fight.
CAVUTO: You know, there is talk about him maybe bolting to a third party. The seeds are there for a third party movement. Do you buy that?
COULTER: I think he should come all the way and become a Republican. He wouldn’t be our best Republican but at left he’d fit in with the party that wants to defend the country.
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Since when has this faux/female become an expert on fighting a war. Was she a highranking military MAN at one time?
June 22nd, 2006 at 5:19 pmWhen they pull intellectually-barren comparisons to FDR out of their butts, you know they have nothing else. Ironic Ann’s simply an apologist for war criminals, nothing more.
June 22nd, 2006 at 5:21 pmCoulter derided the lawmakers who have called for a redeployment strategy from Iraq - - Ann, you didn’t bring the funny. I rely on you for the funny. Bring it, Ann, bring it.
June 22nd, 2006 at 5:23 pmBadmoodman,
Now that Ann is going more mainstream, she won’t be bringing the “funny”. It’s all about her career.
June 22nd, 2006 at 5:26 pmThe constant having to move her hair out of her face is not of star material, who’s betting on a hairstyle change for Ann soon?
June 22nd, 2006 at 5:28 pmThe real question, is why would Ann undermine lieberman by stating support for him when he’s already facing a tough primary. Is there an actual chance for the republican candidate to beat the guy running against liberman?
June 22nd, 2006 at 5:30 pm#5 - For Truth,
No hairstyle change in that girl’s future. She likes doing that. Cavuto likes it too. And Hannity. Ugh.
Since I put no stock whatsoever in anything that spews out of her mouth, I think I’ll just be a catty woman and concentrate on her looks. She’s got a nice ghoul look going on today, and she probably ought to check those roots — now that she’s peddling her ass, I mean book.
June 22nd, 2006 at 5:32 pmO.M.G…! if little binge-and-purge orphan annie is placing her boo-tay on the joementum bandwagon, maybe i ought to reconsider my lamont support…
http://takeitpersonally.blogspot.com/
June 22nd, 2006 at 5:32 pmFox News must be desperate to have Ann Coulter as a military consultant. Jeebus, the right-wingers sure love her don’t they?
June 22nd, 2006 at 5:33 pmLieberman must have just shit when he heard his name come out of Coulter’s mouth. Hey Joe, in for a penny–in for a pound. If you want to act and vote like a Republican–you get Coulter thrown in for nothing.
Remember: Bush and his Administration really are incompetent. And the American public sees it now. Iraq is his mess and no amount of dividing Democrats will make the Iraq sitaution go away.
June 22nd, 2006 at 5:34 pmCoulter is the best! She’s playing the Dems for the fools they are. A Lieberman defeat would expose the Dems for the militant anti-war party that they are.
June 22nd, 2006 at 5:36 pm#7 Zookeeper,
I agree, quite ghoulish today (more so than most). But, just out of curiosity, why does everyone unquestioningly refer to Ann Coulter as a female? I mean, that Adam’s Apple on her is bigger than most females’. And if she really is “totally female”, why is her e-mail address tom@anncoulter.com? Kind of strange if you ask me. (Yes, trolls, nobody asked me.) Also, I find it hard to believe that this person has anything resembling a maternal instinct.
June 22nd, 2006 at 5:37 pm“militant anti-war party”
Comment by Frag Kerry — June 22, 2006 @ 5:36 pm
And just what the hell does that mean? Militant and anti-war? That makes no sense.
June 22nd, 2006 at 5:39 pmmilitant anti-war party? really now FK, how can there be a militant anti-war party. And you really think Ann Coultergiest is the one to expose anything? it must hurt to be you.
June 22nd, 2006 at 5:42 pmI’ve noticed that when the left has nothing intelligent to say, they resort to name calling. I’d think that by now, if you can log onto lists like these, you’d be a bit more mature.
June 22nd, 2006 at 5:44 pmSince we are talking about bat-shit crazy, did Santorum find any more WMD today? Maybe he can help find the Easter Bunny and the Tooth Fairie or any specific details about what damage occurs to my or anyone’s marriage when two people of the same sex marry.
June 22nd, 2006 at 5:45 pmThis is just his usual backwash.
The cons attack FDR as a liberal until they remember he fought a war and won. They seem to think that the two don’t go together. What they don’t understand is that it’s not all about ideology - it’s about competence.
FDR was a competent leader - GWB is incompetent in almost every endeavor. FDR selected competent people and gave them the tools to do their jobs. GWB selects people loyal to him and his ideology, without regard for their competency, and lets them screw up their jobs.
If FDR performed as badly as GWB, he would have been severly criticized and would have deserved it. Germany and Japan would have won that war by now. Three years ago we attacked a country far less dangerous than either of those two and we’re still floundering around, no plan, no goal, no success.
Britain rolled through Iraq/Mesopotamia as a side show in both of the World Wars, and still managed to defeat the larger enemies. It’s all about competence.
June 22nd, 2006 at 5:45 pmIn case you missed it: The Hitler vs. Coulter Quiz: Can you correctly attribute the following quotes? 6/23
June 22nd, 2006 at 5:46 pmWho gives a shit? Can’t we stick to a position on this woman? Jesus Christ.
June 22nd, 2006 at 5:46 pmIf Ann Coulter is for it, I am against!! Just kidding. But she is hardly a realiable expert on any sort of foreign policy, and I think everything else she has said has been mean spirited, vicious and wrong. So why should her opinion give credence to anything at all.
June 22nd, 2006 at 5:48 pmLiebermann is picking up some very strange allies.
That’s funny rickd, talking about the left having nothing intelligent to say and resorting to name calling on a thread about Coulter. You’re a hoot!
June 22nd, 2006 at 5:48 pmmilitant anti-war party now that’s original.
June 22nd, 2006 at 5:49 pm#
I’ve noticed that when the left has nothing intelligent to say, they resort to name calling. I’d think that by now, if you can log onto lists like these, you’d be a bit more mature.
Comment by rickd — June 22, 2006 @ 5:44 pm
Rick go read a few of Mighty Aphrodites posts, ie all of them, and then get back to me about the name calling.
June 22nd, 2006 at 5:49 pmAlso, I find it hard to believe that this person has anything resembling a maternal instinct.
Comment by Wayne A. Schneider
Wayne, I assume she is a woman because Keith Olbermann said he went to college with her, and trannies usually don’t finish up their “work” by that age. That’s all I base it on. We have two transgender people (man to woman) here in town (that I know of), and they’re both better looking than Coulter.
Not all women have a maternal instinct! My youngest sister doesn’t have children, and thank goodness, because she’d probably leave it on top of the car while she made sure her little doggies were safe and sound inside, and then happily drive away.
June 22nd, 2006 at 5:50 pmrickd,
So you don’t think anyone from the right does this? How about this little exchange ovwer on the admin-hid-wmd thread?:
#76 - “….is far righter José MarÃa Aznar, FORMER Spaniard President and staunch ally of Bush in the runup to the Iraq war. I say FORMER because he was ousted when the Spaniard people came to vote.†- comment vy Evil Spaniard
******Dear Evil “Neutered†Spaniard - You are so right - Wimpy Spaniards were cowed and gave in to the demands of terrorists - I think those Madrid train bombings did the trick….
Comment by mighty aphrodite — June 22, 2006 @ 5:27 pm
Still think only the left resorts to name-calling when we have nothing intelligent to say?
June 22nd, 2006 at 5:51 pmBob–you’re right sbout competence–with Bush scrambling and groveling to get approval ratings above 40% (think about that–40%) he looks to clowns like Rove for “advice.” Remember the sage advice of Rove: what’s the best thing we can do to win the war on terror? Divide the country. “You’re either with us or with the terrorsits.”
Remember: Bush really is incompetent and he has bogged this nation down in an unending war of choice. And the American public sees it now.
June 22nd, 2006 at 5:51 pmIgnore little ricky, he has admitted he just shows up here to mess with us, and derail the thread. Why bother on an Anne Coulter thread? Who knows why?
June 22nd, 2006 at 5:54 pmI think that Bush would not have made it past swing shift manager at a taco bell if it wasn’t for his family connections. He would not have gone to Harvard and Yale without them.
June 22nd, 2006 at 5:54 pm#24 Zookeeper,
You know I respect Keith Olbermann, but is it possible the change was made before he met Coulter? :)
Also, I did not mean to imply that all women have maternal instincts, only that Ann Coulter doesn’t. Neither does Jane, which is one of the many reasons we never had (or adopted or raised in any way) children. We both know we would have probably killed them by now. And, of course, that would mean getting the death penalty and you know how I am about that!
June 22nd, 2006 at 5:55 pm#26 - Come back to earth. Bush was at 46% when he beat Kerry and the GOP picked up four senate seats.
AND by militant anti-war, I mean anyone who does not agree with the far left’s philosophy on the war gets run through the mud. You people are truly a close-minded lot who HATE anyone who disagrees with your agenda of retreat and defeat. Thankfully, you are not in power.
June 22nd, 2006 at 5:56 pmWhich is worse for a - Democratic - candidate’s campaign - George Bush’s endorsment - or Ann Coulter’s?
Just Curious.
June 22nd, 2006 at 5:57 pmI’ve noticed that when the left has nothing intelligent to say, they resort to name calling. I’d think that by now, if you can log onto lists like these, you’d be a bit more mature.
Comment by rickd
June 22nd, 2006 at 5:58 pm======================
Should folks have praised Hitler for having a nice head of hair?
Coulter said we should invade all Muslim nations,kill their leaders,and force the populations to convert to Christianity.
Now,If I criticize that remark,is it not intelligent?
#30 Do you know where the word “frag” comes from? Are you advocating that someone “frag Kerry”?
June 22nd, 2006 at 5:59 pmAND by militant anti-war, I mean anyone who does not agree with the far left’s philosophy on the war gets run through the mud.
Comment by Frag Kerry — June 22, 2006 @ 5:56 pm
You mean like the right has a attacked a 37 year decorated marine veteran because he does not agree with the far rights view on the war? Wake up to the hypocrisy you spew my friend.
June 22nd, 2006 at 5:59 pmOr what about Max Cleland, the guy who lost his limbs in vietnam? The republicans showed a willingness to drag him through the mud. Even John McCain got the short end of the stick when it looked like he might get the party nomination in 2000. Push polls accerted he had a black love child.
Please clean up your own house before taking a dump in mine.
June 22nd, 2006 at 6:03 pmDamn, damn, damn! At 44 years and counting, the old bag-o-bones is just 2 years too old to enlist.
June 22nd, 2006 at 6:07 pmKranzy - I hate you more than you hate me. Trust me. But, it was you folks who started this invective war by holding President Bush to a different standard on Iraq. You had no problem letting Clinton bomb Iraq on the eve of impeachment in the name of WMD.
The only reason you should fear people like myself and Ann Coulter is because we are like you. We will get in the mud and we will fight your hateful attacks. But rest assured, in the end we will win. And we will push our agenda through in spite of all your kicking and screaming.
June 22nd, 2006 at 6:09 pmI see Anorexic Ann is once again drawing on her wealth of military and political knowledge she has learned from the likes of Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity. Too bad her law degree doesn’t qualify her skinny ass for squat in military affairs.
Still, its nice of the bitch to suddenly be all for the US military. It wasn’t always so. In 1997 MSNBC fired Coulter after an exchange with Bobby Muller, president of the anti-war group Vietnam Veterans of America Foundation, in which she said, “No wonder you guys lost.”
I wonder if that skank will be repeating those words to some Iraqi veteran in five or ten years for following the “stay the course” leadership of Bush, Cheney, and Rummy.
June 22nd, 2006 at 6:09 pmHow would a man have maternal instincts? Annie doesn’t have them because “she” was not BORN female.
June 22nd, 2006 at 6:10 pm#29 - You know I respect Keith Olbermann, but is it possible the change was made before he met Coulter? :)
KO knew her in college, presumably around the ages of 18-22. No doctor I know of will even talk to someone about changing sex until they are at least 18. Then they have to go through years of psychotherapy, and at least a year of living as the other gender. Then you have to start with the surgeries. KO was probably eyeballs deep in geeky sports stats books, but he probably would have noticed something like that. Although, now that I think of it, he’s too much of a gentleman to ever say so…
I want to stop thinking about this now. ;)
June 22nd, 2006 at 6:11 pmYou people are truly a close-minded lot who HATE anyone who disagrees with your agenda…..
Comment by Frag Kerry
You mean like that skank, Ann Coulter? Yeah, I guess I do, dipshit.
June 22nd, 2006 at 6:13 pmKrazny,
And they say we’re the ones filled with hate.
Ah, conservatives. You gotta love ‘em, or else you would be just as hateful as they.
June 22nd, 2006 at 6:14 pmDoes anyone listen to her any more, except for the entertainment of it?
June 22nd, 2006 at 6:15 pmDude it was the right and the 10 years they spent on the witch hunt that pissed off the left. You and people like you are the far bigger hypocrites then me. You complain I hold Bush to a differant standard well guess what dumshit, bush invaded the country, Clinton didn’t. I am glad you hate me, I hope you don’t sleep well at night, grinding your teeth hating me. Frankly I don’t hate you. I pity you, I think you are misguided, but I don’t hate you.
peace
June 22nd, 2006 at 6:16 pm#40 Maybe she skipped the psychotherapy? :)
You’re right. There are far too many less unpleasant things to think about.
Good night all. Going home to watch the re-broadcast of the Mets game so I can see David Wright’s two home runs (which will bring smiles to Jane’s face, which is really what I want to see.)
June 22nd, 2006 at 6:18 pmThis is just an internet rumor, but here it is for what its worth. Ann is originally a drag queen out of Key West. She found a ‘two for one’ sex change coupon from a clinic in a remote part of Mexico and booked travel south with MA. Unfortunately, neither of them read the fine print and didn’t realize that Adam’s apple shaving and chest hair removal where not included. Unfortunately, their efforts to recover damages have been thwarted by medical malpractice caps which they originally supported. Anger over the botched surgery, their inability to recover damages and post-op hormone issues has resulted in the two venomous hags we have before us now.
June 22nd, 2006 at 6:19 pmYou’re fighting for a transient state that will never last.
Amen
June 22nd, 2006 at 6:22 pmWell Coulter did say something correct finally.
Lilly Livered Lieberman should go over to the republicans.
Because he sure as hell isn’ a democrat.
June 22nd, 2006 at 6:24 pmCourse she was wrong about Lieberman being “strong”.
Hes about as strong as Alan Colmes.
June 22nd, 2006 at 6:26 pm#25 - Dear Wayne - I stand corrected - the Spanish electorate voted out Jose Maria Aznar to show support for the poor, mis-understood Muslims who were only blowing up trains to demonstrate their displeasure about the “poor quality” of the Spanish train system. Frankly, I think their blowing up trains and mistakenly killing innocent Spaniards was just a teensy bit extreme. Their rail system seemed fine to me…..
About kids - really, patience and unselfishness are the key. You seem suitably maternal and Jane seems more than patient - but parenthood isn’t for everyone….
June 22nd, 2006 at 6:27 pmPlease Ann. What does a World War that were the result of 2 contries invading their weak neighbours with a military force have to do with a powerful country who invaded a weak country…oh wait..I get it..you just dont know what you are talking about. Again.
June 22nd, 2006 at 6:29 pm“It hurts me when I write a column and I don’t get Liberals hysterical and foaming at the mouth … that is their natural reaction” - Ann Coulter
I feel the same way! Also about the name calling, in the interest of expediency could you have them in one easy to cut/paste sentence? I mean how many times can you spout “NeoCon Nazi Racists Homophobe†before they begin to lose their meaning? Why not come up with a catch acronym or like me have fun with the text (ie m0onb@+).
June 22nd, 2006 at 6:33 pmKettle/Black
June 22nd, 2006 at 6:34 pmDubya. As far as Coulter comparing Iraq to WW2?
Iraq isn’t even a war.
Its an occupation. There’s a huge differnence.
Its not a war if you’re the only army on the battlefield.
June 22nd, 2006 at 6:34 pmThe army would make an exception for her and take her to join the ranks.
She should find out firsthand what it is really like over there in Iraq.
It’s the only way.
Just another chickenhawk. She would be the first to ‘cut and run’ when the going would get tough.
Dick Cheney would hide behind his lesbian daughters pants.
‘Republican’ babies cry the loudest.
June 22nd, 2006 at 6:36 pmYou folks who are so eager for the on-going killing and maiming should enlist, quickly, before Iraq throws us out. Wouldn’t want for you to miss the real thing.
A veteran.
June 22nd, 2006 at 6:42 pmSince you are so willing to fight, can you tell us which unit you will be with when they ship out to Iraq? Which branch did you say you were going into again?
June 22nd, 2006 at 6:43 pmAnother “compssionate conservative”
June 22nd, 2006 at 6:44 pmA question for Progs - Do you dislike Joe Lieberman to the same degree many conservatives dislike Lincoln Chaffee or Jim Jeffords??
June 22nd, 2006 at 6:44 pmMore to the point, we don’t confuse disagreement with dislike. Maybe that’s your problem.
June 22nd, 2006 at 6:47 pm#
A question for Progs - Do you dislike Joe Lieberman to the same degree many conservatives dislike Lincoln Chaffee or Jim Jeffords??
Comment by mighty aphrodite — June 22, 2006 @ 6:44 pm
not really, hate is not a family value among us like it is for you.
June 22nd, 2006 at 6:47 pmCAPTION CONTEST!!!
June 22nd, 2006 at 6:50 pmThe ring 3. Coming in theaters next month.
Coulter: “Can you imagine FDR having to deal with this during World War II?” - - The Allies made measureable progress in reacquiring sovereign nations’ territories from the enemy. We’re making zero progress in a battle that about ideology and has little to do with land acquisition. Oh Ann, you did bring the funny!
June 22nd, 2006 at 6:50 pm#5, how about a pony tail? Then the hairstyle would match the ass.
June 22nd, 2006 at 6:50 pmAnn Coulter = Marilyn Manson in drag.
It’s his “day job”, folks.
June 22nd, 2006 at 6:51 pmhe at least he wants to defend the country…(beat)…of israel.
June 22nd, 2006 at 6:51 pmI wonder if FDR had the same problem as Bush, namely that his supporters oppose instituting a draft and oppose rationing of gasoline or any raw materials that our troops might need. I wonder if FDR had a problem with his supporters demanding tax cuts. I wonder if FDR had the same problem avoiding soldiers’ funerals and a shrinking coalition of the willing. I wonder how what kind of insurgency FDR had to deal with after the liberation of France. I wonder if FDR’s children partied in D.C. rather than enlisting and fighting.
What were we complaining about? This comparison of Bush to FDR is great!
June 22nd, 2006 at 6:51 pmSince you are so willing to fight, can you tell us which unit you will be with when they ship out to Iraq? Which branch did you say you were going into again?
Comment by Spudge_Boy
May I suggest that Frag enlists for the 173rd Airborne (Sky Soldiers) in northern Iraq. That is the Kurdish area and about the only ones not trying to kill Americans or planting IED’s in an attempt to blow an ass, arm, or head off.
June 22nd, 2006 at 6:51 pmI have to disagree Robert, Marilyn Manson knows the what he says is bull, Ann believes the what she says. I have to say on a whole Marilyn Manson is saner then Ann Coulter. Or is it more sane?
June 22nd, 2006 at 6:52 pmYou can never say it enough times. I know I won’t stop until you guys stop being Neo-Con NAZI racist homophobes.
Because my 11 year old’s friends type that way.
June 22nd, 2006 at 6:53 pmA question for Progs - Do you dislike Joe Lieberman to the same degree many conservatives dislike Lincoln Chaffee or Jim Jeffords??
Not really… the beauty of being progressive is that we can embrace different ideas whereas you guys can only handle one at a time and therefore are forced to leave the party when you disagree.
June 22nd, 2006 at 6:53 pmI wonder if FDR had a problem maintaining a steady supply of fuel from Hitler’s oil-producing allies?
Come on, everyone can play this game! It’s fun!
June 22nd, 2006 at 6:53 pmhate is not a family value among us like it is for you.
June 22nd, 2006 at 6:54 pmComment by Krazny
They dont understand how one can argue passionately about things and then have a beer with the opponent.
A question for Progs - Do you dislike Joe Lieberman to the same degree many conservatives dislike Lincoln Chaffee or Jim Jeffords??
Comment by mighty aphrodite — June 22, 2006 @ 6:44 pm
progresives can disagree with out HATE…something your post shows the repugs are incapable of…thus you have Mann the hater Coulter…and Rush the lieing hater Limpballs…and Bill the lier who spews hate…and KKKarl the hate wins elections Rove
June 22nd, 2006 at 6:54 pmTo Frag Kerry: Just what is your agenda that you are going to get through? Just curious.
June 22nd, 2006 at 6:54 pmThey dont understand how one can argue passionately about things and then have a beer with the opponent.
Comment by Juan C
Maybe because they think if you admit you may not be right about everything, it is like admitting defeat, a loss of honor, or something.
June 22nd, 2006 at 6:56 pmYou can never say it enough times. .
Comment by Spudge_Boy — June 22, 2006 @ 6:53 pm
LMAO. Ain’t it the truth.
June 22nd, 2006 at 6:57 pmI don’t like the way Joe Lieberman is used to divide democrats. I don’t agree with Joe Lieberman on many things, but I think that those who want to “get rid of him” are making a mistake. I think that it is possible to be a good democrat and to be hawkish on Iraq. I believe that having people such as Murtha and Lieberman makes the democratic party rich. As of Ann Coulter, what she is trying to do is to make Lieberman unattractive, she has no idea what his ideas are for she doesn’t understand anything about policy.
June 22nd, 2006 at 6:58 pmHi ho Kermit the Freedom Frog here. I want you to look at three things:
1) WWII
2) Eastern Europe’s popular uprising against the Soviets
3) The Iraq “war”
Now sing along with me: “One of thse things is not like the other…”
June 22nd, 2006 at 6:59 pmAdam would be proud of that apple anne is sporting.
Ennyhoo, we don’t see anne or any other pundits signing up for war, they talk about fighting alot but in the end it is just more empty punditry.
Blank words spewn from blank minds.
June 22nd, 2006 at 7:00 pmAnything Coulter actually says about - - well, just about anything - - is a lot of blather designed to bring attention to herself and to keep her face before the (FOX NEWS) TV cameras. Nobody else wants her anymore. She has become FOX NEWS’s pet monkey, making meaningless, nasty noises that have become repetitious tedium. We may conclude that her ulterior motive in appearing so often on TV and her speechifying tours with her stupidities is to court favor, most recently, with Joe Lieberman. Her attempts to find a suitable boyfriend in Lieberman will certainly fall on barren ground since, after all, he is happily married and Jewish, besides. He has made that clear enough. Maybe Coulter, in her desperation to find love, hasn’t been paying attention. If FOX has any sense thay will drop her from their roster of “guests”. She’s becoming a liability: tedious, unattractive, and ultimately a BORE.
June 22nd, 2006 at 7:00 pmI don’t agree with Joe Lieberman on many things, but I think that those who want to “get rid of him†are making a mistake.
Comment by kiki — June 22, 2006 @ 6:58 pm
What are you kiki, one of his aides?
The only mistake we made was letting him get re-elected last time around.
He’s a BUM.
He’s a BUM who needs to be shown the door.
June 22nd, 2006 at 7:02 pmif you admit you may not be right about everything, it is like admitting defeat, a loss of honor, or something.
Comment by Kermit the Freedom Frog
or thinking that the penis shortens. Maybe that is the whole opposing behind “Cut and Run”. Something fallic, like Lorena Bobbit´s husband.
June 22nd, 2006 at 7:03 pm#51 - aphrodite - don’t look now, your pants are on fire! spain didn’t like being lied to that eta were responsible for their train bombs. it was nothing to do with caving to terror. your lie covers for aznar’s lie. liar.
June 22nd, 2006 at 7:08 pmAnything Coulter actually says about - - well, just about anything - - is a lot of blather ….
Comment by Francis V. Scalzi
Well, I can pretty much agree with that. But at any rate, I don’t have a lot of trust in anyone who has a bigger adam’s apple, thinner lips, and more hair on their legs than I have.
June 22nd, 2006 at 7:08 pmThey dont understand how one can argue passionately about things and then have a beer with the opponent.
Comment by Juan C
——————–
They equate argument with violence.
A debate must be opinionated hateful and ugly and avoided at al costs with a mcarthy style attack — just like Faux Nutwork.
June 22nd, 2006 at 7:09 pmFor those of you who did not vote for Gore in 2000 because of some unidentifiable bitter taste in your mouth, Ms ******* just identified what people in CT having been gagging on for three terms now.
June 22nd, 2006 at 7:10 pmA little off topic, sorry, .. Coulter and Lieberman belong together. Remember he/she is selling her self and so is Lieberman, republicans all the way…Reich wing lock step over the cliff and drag the country along. Misery loves company and they both are miserable…..
Next I know how to help out our global warming problem and our country at the same time…..Limited photo ops and long winded, hot methane spewing politicians only allowed to spew their hate and speeches 15 minutes per week….All sides….No more allowing kill the messenger mud slinging from trolls on all sites……What do you think.?
One more note, no duplicate mindless postings…..And above all remember this is 2006…..bush has been in charge since 2000, the mistakes are this administrations…..If there are any good things to talk about that has been accomplished while bush has been in office we would like to know. That ofcourse does not include huge tax breaks to the most wealthy……
Like I said before for those who speed read and miss half the posts….Clinton is not the president now and has not been since January of 2000….FDR passed away a long time ago and we don’t need any history lessons unless they are relevent to preventing more of the botched present problems….
June 22nd, 2006 at 7:17 pmAnn, there’s a hypocrisy the size of your adam’s apple in you disgusting argument:
COULTER: Democrats can’t be trusted with national security.
COULTER: Democrats […] like Lieberman apparently do[…] want to defend America and fight the war on terrorism.
And this is not the result of smoking crack in what way?
June 22nd, 2006 at 7:18 pm“hate you more than you hate me. Trust me.” By an Idiot
Frag Kerry you’re an Idiot. Shut up and kill yourself. The world does not need or want you.
June 22nd, 2006 at 7:20 pmThe pro-death / pro-war people are at it again. Why do conservatives have such an infatuation with killing?
June 22nd, 2006 at 7:24 pmActually I think Lieberman is really Ray Walston.
I’m just waiting for the little antenna to rise up behind his head.
June 22nd, 2006 at 7:25 pmAnd to accuse Aznar of lying when militant Basque separatists (ETA) have been responsible for alot of violence
June 22nd, 2006 at 7:26 pmComment by mighty aphrodite
I wish so much you had lived under Franco´s dictatorship and trying to speak up your crooked voice. Read a book, girl. Stop shopping at Gap and eating McNuggets.
Either that or Elmer Fudd.
June 22nd, 2006 at 7:27 pmNow I don’t usually get into people’s looks, but is that the worst picture of a still living human being you’ve ever seen?
I mean, get the Six Feet under crew out of retirement, and tell them they have a huge job to undertake.
June 22nd, 2006 at 7:28 pmhate you more than you hate me. Trust me.
June 22nd, 2006 at 7:30 pmComment by Frag Kerry
Thank you for summarizing right wing thinking.
COULTER: I think he should come all the way and become a Republican. He wouldn’t be our best Republican but at left he’d fit in with the party that wants to defend the country.
She then turned into a bat and flew away.
June 22nd, 2006 at 7:35 pmyou’re a liar aphrodite. aznar lied: “there is no doubt that eta is responsible” - washpo march 17, 2004. look it up. liar.
June 22nd, 2006 at 7:35 pmShe can have Lieberman, he’s a traitor anyway. TP, you only add credibility to this hag when you give her time in the column. If you are appalled at he 9/11 widow comments and call for Murtha’s death, why give her the time of day let alone press space. As far as I am concerned her name should never be uttered again, she should not be recognized, never have another interview or news(?) cast. If she is ignored and sells no more books, well I guess she lost.
June 22nd, 2006 at 7:36 pmI don’t know johnndrama. I think its a fine likeness.
Looks just like Skeletor.
June 22nd, 2006 at 7:39 pm#72 - “Not really… the beauty of being progressive is that we can embrace different ideas whereas you guys can only handle one at a time and therefore are forced to leave the party when you disagree.” Comment by Jon
****Dear Jon - Such a sweet sentiment, but not grounded in reality. Progressives are some of the most cleverly vicious people on the planet - who can forget Juliette Malveaux asnd her clever death wish for Clarence Thomas?? The progressive platform is based on harmonious co-exitence with others - in reality it about an economic, and socio-political platform - in short - POWER….
Funny thing, Jon, when I evolved from a prog to a conservative, I lost many acquaintances - obviously they were not quite as open minded as you. The progs i come in contact with due to the type of work I do are generally very nice people. (And the few who know I am a conservative, are DISMAYED!!!! One actually said, “My gosh, Aphrodite, I thought you were smarter than THAT…” I laughed and told him apparently I wasn’t…..
June 22nd, 2006 at 7:40 pmworfeus - the funniest one i’ve heard was Willie Tanner from Alf…
June 22nd, 2006 at 7:41 pmhuh? huh?
who can forget Juliette Malveaux asnd her clever death wish for Clarence Thomas??
Who?
June 22nd, 2006 at 7:47 pmwho can forget Juliette Malveaux asnd her clever death wish for Clarence Thomas??
Who? Sorry was this Juliette person someone who wrote books that liberals put on the best seller list? Or did she have a radio program that millions of liberals listened to? No, don’t recall that at all.
June 22nd, 2006 at 7:48 pmMighty Hermaphrodite, when you evolved from “prog”????????????????????? Come on is conservative cock really that great? Come on, don’t bullshit me either.
June 22nd, 2006 at 7:48 pmI read through this and I can’t help but think that TP has too many Senators or ex-Senators around there calling the shots. “The Lieberman Approach?” WTF?
She didn’t endorse his “approach”. She endorsed HIM and when on to invite him to become a Republican. I usually love TP, but this headline and the ensuing article make me think that there are TOO MANY Senators or Ex-Senators running around that office and they’re still in the mode of “Protect All Incumbants” from primary challenges. At what point do people stop worrying about keeping their jobs and start actually DOING their jobs?
June 22nd, 2006 at 7:50 pmShe looks like a pipe cleaner with a mouth.
June 22nd, 2006 at 7:55 pm#99 - “Either that or Elmer Fudd.” - Comment by CLUBBER WORFEUS
****You were right the first time - if Ray Walston were alive, he’d have a double.
(My associate was laughing and said ‘If Lieberman were alive Ray Walston could be resurrected to be his double’. He’s on your side of the fence - and a really funny guy.)
Dear Jealous of Jeff - (BTW - that sounds like a personal problem to me.) You sure seem to know alot alot ETA to me. How about the Red Brigade? What do you know about ELF? But we all know that people who assume so much generally do so without much foundation….
June 22nd, 2006 at 7:57 pmSo I guess when insurgents steal Iraqi uniforms and murder people in cold blood YOU assume those deaths were the responsibility of:
a.) Iraqi soldiers (they should have hung on to their uniforms with GREATER care.)
b.) US military (if WE weren’t over there, they could have a perfectly understood and unrestricted blood bath…)
in reality it about an economic, and socio-political platform - in short - POWER…
Yup, POWER to the people. What’s the problem?
June 22nd, 2006 at 7:58 pmWhy would we care what this whack job thinks? She’s insane.
June 22nd, 2006 at 8:00 pm“prog to a conservative” –Mighty Mouth
And the whole world belongs in one of these two groups mighty?
I suppose now that Mighty Mouth has become a ‘conservative’, which is a dead myth, that is now the place to be because mighty mouth thinks that it is.
Yet the mighty mouth, who is a self-described ‘open minded’ person, has just limited its open mind to one political group. Yet this same mouth also thinks conservatism means religion. In the mouths open mind there is only one religion and one political party. Yet this open-minded person wants poverty wages.
This open minded person thinks democracy, that one political party, comes from the end of a gun. That might makes right.
The bully on the playground turns out to be the chickenhawks in the white house.
open minded huh?
June 22nd, 2006 at 8:00 pmYour a close minded joke mighty mouth.
#110 - Dear Anti-Christ - Cicumcision makes all the difference….
June 22nd, 2006 at 8:01 pmWell, at least you told the truth.
June 22nd, 2006 at 8:03 pmAnd yet, you continue to do so on a daily basis.
June 22nd, 2006 at 8:07 pmCicumcision makes all the difference….
June 22nd, 2006 at 8:07 pmComment by mighty aphrodite
I dont like to brag…but thank you.
Mighty thinks people change from progressive to conservative? Yeah right, that is like heteros changing to homo and back.
Mighty, you change your beliefs very often? I don’t know anybody else that ever has. But then lying is something you do all the time, so we don’t believe you.
You are either for big business/big oil and have an issue with religiosity or you do not. That doesn’t change.
June 22nd, 2006 at 8:10 pm#118 - “And the whole world belongs in one of these two groups mighty?”
*****No. (Hint to you: You would APPEAR less ignoRANT if you didn’t try to read between the lines of what I write - you’re not very good at it.)
I suppose now that Mighty Mouth has become a ‘conservative’, which is a dead myth, that is now the place to be because mighty mouth thinks that it is.
******No. It’s a personal decision. When I was a prog, I was very PROUD of the stances for the poor and downtrodden that progs righteously promoted. (When I realized the “solutions” promoted divisiveness and were designed to ensure a pemanent under class, I left. When i realized ,amy secular humanist leaders - generally progs - were trying to turn society UPSIDE down - I left. When I realized prog philosophy did not take into account HUMAN NATURE - I left.- This occurred with the efforts of prog culture to feminize men. I have plenty of girlfriends to shop with - I don’t need Mr. Aphrodite to be my new “mirl-friend”)
And you accuse us of being”closed minded”….Ha-ha …Better look in the mirror, sugar…. Actually, I think you have demonstrated your prejudice and ignorance without further help from me….
*****Dear Ignoramous
June 22nd, 2006 at 8:13 pmWhy is mighty mouth talking about circumcision? I don’t talk about menstral cramps. Is it a dude?
June 22nd, 2006 at 8:13 pm#114 aphro-f***wit - the washpo knows more about eta and aznar’s lying than you know about it. he lied, and you are lying your a** off on this thread and others about spain’s people. you don’t know a damn thing about terrorism until you’ve lived in a country that faces it every day. liar.
June 22nd, 2006 at 8:16 pmYou are either for big business/big oil and have an issue with religiosity or you do not
June 22nd, 2006 at 8:19 pmComment by Spudge_Boy
It depends on convenience, I guess. Which one of all choices is going to make you feel good about yourself? It is about self-compliance. That is the only way you can never loose (to never fight), never suffer (never risking to live), never be wrong (never demand knowing the truth), and always be afraid of everything (always hate those who dont think like you).
Joe Lieberman has enough troubles. Does he need a crazy new friend?
June 22nd, 2006 at 8:19 pmJoe Lieberman has enough troubles. Does he need a crazy new friend?
June 22nd, 2006 at 8:19 pmWell, Coulter just won the election for Ned Lamont.
June 22nd, 2006 at 8:31 pm#132 That was really, really good. I wish I had it.
June 22nd, 2006 at 8:31 pmWhen I was a prog, I was very PROUD of the stances for the poor and downtrodden that progs righteously promoted
Comment by mighty aphrodite — June 22, 2006 @ 8:13 pm
Ok cool. Then please put some of that rich money where your mouth is, and buy a soldier a helmet update kit.
The cost of the kit is only 99 dollars for the Navy\Air Force kit, and 71 dollars for the Marine kit.
Buying one of these kits will rush a helmet upgrade kit straight to a GI in the field. These kits make the helmet capable of withstanding a much greater blast, increase the likelyhood of deflecting a bullet, and KEEP the helmet itself from smashing against the soldiers heads due to a large shock event.
Regardless of whether you support the war or not this site, set up by Cher, is saving young American lives NOW.
OPERATION HELMET
Do this MA, and I will look at you with new eyes.
June 22nd, 2006 at 8:39 pmIn fact everyone in here, if you haven’t done so already go buy a soldier a helmet upgrade kit.
Regardless of you position, I am sure you all can agree we can’t afford to wait for Congress to get off their asses and force the Pentagon to equip the troops with these.
The moment for that has already past.
Boots are on the ground now. So now is when the soldiers need these.
Buy one kit, and you have a soldiers back in a small way, everytime he goes out on patrol.
June 22nd, 2006 at 8:43 pmAnd remember. Its not that all the soldiers can’t afford these kits, although many can’t.
Its that they don’t have the time or the information to get one. This makes sure that they get it. From what we’ve seen so far, everytime a soldier gets one of these kits in the mail, they just open it up and start putting it in their helmet.
Just like it was military issued. Which it oughta be.
June 22nd, 2006 at 8:46 pmSpongey - Normally, I wouldn’t discuss such private matters either - but go back and read the vulgar post #110 - Your MOM wouldn’t want YOU talking l;ike that…..
June 22nd, 2006 at 8:51 pmWhat has she done for veterans lately?
June 22nd, 2006 at 8:52 pmShe is what you call support for the troops.
I doubt that she would be invited to our locale VA chapter.
Flaveus - Operation Helmet is one of MY favourite things to send $$ to. The entire Aphrodite Family has sent helmet update kits - I won’t brag and tell you how many - but GOOD job getting the word out!! Who knew I’d respect Cher again??
June 22nd, 2006 at 8:54 pmGotta run - -
I have only one thing to say to Mighty Asshole and her troll pals:
You are ignorant little America hating traitors.
June 22nd, 2006 at 8:59 pmI hope you get paid well to troll these sites, selling out your country should not come cheap.
MA
when I evolved from a prog to a conservative
Is your belief in evolution a carry over from when you were a prog, or did you mean “un-intelligently designed”?
I believe the intentions of most progs are honourable - but the execution often robs people of their individuality.
I’ll bite… What do you think we can do to change that without letting the truly needy slip through the cracks without the assistance they need?
June 22nd, 2006 at 9:01 pmahhhh yes the tokyo rose darling of the right…..
June 22nd, 2006 at 9:03 pmBelieve me not all women have the maternal instinct, as a child counselor for the welfare cases (in the past for 8 years) you see all the non-maternal instinct women. I think Ann is a woman with no fat, which exposes that adams apple. I know its fun to think shes a male, but seriously shes a she. I still dont like her though.
June 22nd, 2006 at 9:26 pmHere we go again the troll from the RIGHT CHICKEN WING PARTY opening the hole on her face with rhetoric beyond belief……… wait whats going on with her criminal dealings in Florida?
June 22nd, 2006 at 9:26 pmMA
when I evolved from a prog to a conservative
Is your belief in evolution a carry over from when you were a prog, or did you mean “un-intelligently designed�
I believe the intentions of most progs are honourable - but the execution often robs people of their individuality.
I’ll bite… What do you think we can do to change that without letting the truly needy slip through the cracks without the assistance they need?
Comment by Jon — June 22, 2006 @ 9:01 pm
Jon, you are wasting your time. MA is a degenerate single cell lying very sick and lonely person. It has no life outside the Blogs. It has made up a life, family and career. all of it complete bul$hit. When confronted with truth and facts IT “TOODELS”. Then waits tell the subject drifts and comes back with more made up crap. It has never backed up one claim with a reliable link..EVER. IT is a freak of nature.
June 22nd, 2006 at 9:32 pmMA, as a compassonate liberal I would like to reach out to you. I know you think your a loser and some how feel that aligning yourself with hate filled rethugs can some how make you feel better..it will not work (my fat bald sweaty) friend. You can not build yourself up by putting everyone else down. Joining up with the hate filled losers will not work. You will always be “You”. Think about it, there really is a wonderfull life out there. Unplug the computer, smell the roses..hell be nice to someone..give it a try.
June 22nd, 2006 at 9:47 pmThis occurred with the efforts of prog culture to feminize men. I have plenty of girlfriends to shop with
June 22nd, 2006 at 9:52 pmComment by mighty afrodite
You just showed what is your opinion about what women should do as social activities. And you call yourself mighty afrodite. Pffffft. What a retrograd.
Bush’s approval rating is lower than a transvestite hookers neck line and these enlightened bed wetters are still defending him? All they do is parrot rush. Brain dead sycophants that can vote but I suspect aren’t allowed to operate simple machinery like can openers. I wonder if rush is going to sell a rush doll .
June 22nd, 2006 at 9:55 pmIsn’t the whole “Porn Star/Meth Freak” look so 2003 at this point?
June 22nd, 2006 at 10:03 pmThis occurred with the efforts of prog culture to feminize men. I have plenty of girlfriends to shop with
Comment by mighty afrodite
You just showed what is your opinion about what women should do as social activities. And you call yourself mighty afrodite. Pffffft. What a retrograd.
Comment by Juan C — June 22, 2006 @ 9:52 pm
Juan, you devil you have figured out MA…IT is a piece of pure crap a big fat over weight bald pervert.. will not engage and can only spout out “Talking points”..It dose not have an origanal thought in ITS pea sized brain. IT loves to have some one tell IT what to think and say and worst how to feel. TOODELS will not come out an play..IT is here, but, will not come out an engage. You now “TOODELS” that has to hurt not to have one come back. Oh I know ..your in court with a really big case or at home with MR. Ma working on your brillant attack in court tomorrow.
June 22nd, 2006 at 10:16 pmIf Joe Lieberman is a “centrist” then Dracula is Clara Barton.
Lieberman is a RIGHT WING EXTREMIST. I hope Lamont runs ads linking Lieberman and Coulter.
June 22nd, 2006 at 10:41 pmThe real question, is why would Ann undermine lieberman by stating support for him when he’s already facing a tough primary. Is there an actual chance for the republican candidate to beat the guy running against liberman?
Comment by squegeeboo — June 22, 2006 @ 5:30 pm
No chance unless they rig our voting machines. Ned Lamont picked up the Former State Party Leader’s endorsement as well NOW, he even got a plug from the Green candidate for Senate. He’s on a roll and NoMoJoe isrunning scared.
This endorsement by the hag can only speed his retirement, but it’s nothing next to his performance today Leading the GOP charge against the Fiengold-Kerry ammendment! When, finally, the Democratic Party catches up to the electorate and calls for an end to the occupation, Hapless Joe Lie berman is the one that comes out on the wrong side, again.
we see it in these frivolous proposals to have a timeline, a plan, “what’s the plan?â€
Um… having a plan is frivolous? So does that mean there is no plan? Or is it a secret plan?
June 22nd, 2006 at 10:51 pmOr do they just refuse to consider an end to the occupation? How many more years of this? How many more kids mutilated and killed?
Maybe, if they told US that plan, there’d be a revolution.
Ann Coulter is an ignorant mouth piece of the Bush Administration, She does not know what she is talking about, her comments are a source for the comedy channel.
June 22nd, 2006 at 11:18 pmAlexy
By my count, Lieberman has been endorsed by Bill O’Reilly, Sean Hannity and Ann Coulter. Why should progressives support Lieberman again?
June 22nd, 2006 at 11:33 pmJoe Friday and Juan C.
You guys rip. Excellent work sirs.
June 22nd, 2006 at 11:36 pmGawd, why do they have to show his face everytime he makes a “comment”.
June 22nd, 2006 at 11:37 pmWho listens to this single, childless, unmarried, barren vulture?
-GSD
June 22nd, 2006 at 11:38 pmI didn’t say ideas, I said beliefs. You then go on to try and confuse beliefs with ideas. Beliefs are ingrained in your soul. ideas come and go. As for traveling. I have been to every state, except West Virginia. Not sure how we missed that one. I have also traveled to England, Spain and France. And of course, go to spend a lovely time in Kuwait and Iraq during Desert Storm. Didn’t change my beliefs one bit. Gave me some new ideas though.
Just like in the same post, you try and confuse big business with small business. Now, you know just as well as I do that I am talking about BIG business. I am talking about the telecos, big oil, big auto and the like. I work in a global company that is NOT considered big business. You know what I mean and are once again, trying to blur the line. I don’t. It goes against my beliefs.
June 22nd, 2006 at 11:47 pmCoulter defending Lieberman the traitor is just plain outrageous! Both of them are the lowest scum in the entire United States! Go get a room Ann and Joe > lol.
June 22nd, 2006 at 11:48 pmAs much as I regret Joe Lieberman’s stand on the war, I still hold him to be a good Democrat. One thing about the Democratic Party is the very that we don’t have to follow, in goose step, the pronouncements of our “leaders”. If we agree on most things, that’ll have to be what we settle for.
As Micklips said, “You can’t always get what you want; but if you try sometimes, you just might find you get what you need”.
June 23rd, 2006 at 12:16 amAs much as I regret Joe Lieberman’s stand on the war, I still hold him to be a good Democrat. One thing about the Democratic Party is the very that we don’t have to follow, in goose step, the pronouncements of our “leaders”. If we agree on most things, that’ll have to be what we settle for.
As Micklips said, “You can’t always get what you want; but if you try sometimes, you just might find you get what you need”.
June 23rd, 2006 at 12:16 amWho said it? Coulter or Hitler? Great quiz, just try it.
http://www.people.virginia.edu/ ~jac3he/ GiveUpQuiz/ hitlercoulterquiz.html
June 23rd, 2006 at 12:17 amWell, if MAN COULTER says she likes someone that is just as good as a vampire biting him on the neck.
So you will only hear me say this once, good job MAN COULTER. Can you also say you like AANOLD?
Oh, and MAN COULTER, I like how you aren’t hiding those dark circles around your eyes anymore. It looks much more attractive, you know media whore, crack whore, tranny, transy…. whateva.
June 23rd, 2006 at 12:26 amSwine “apologista”
June 23rd, 2006 at 12:36 amBash Babies for Bush
That is what they are asking of the troops.
Whether the issue concerns gay Americans, 9/11, abortion, judicial appointments or political corruption, a seamless continuum of hate runs from today’s governing conservatism through to its most extreme proponents. And that means the GOP differs only in degree - not in kind - from the cartoonish and sometimes criminal likes of Ann Coulter, Fred Phelps or Eric Rudolph.
For the analysis, see:
June 23rd, 2006 at 12:39 am“Ann Coulter and Conservatism’s Continuum of Hate”
This moron FragFag wrote “Coulter is the best! She’s playing the Dems for the fools they are. A Lieberman defeat would expose the Dems for the militant anti-war party that they are.
Comment by Frag Kerry”
Look here dude, why not leave the white trash house wagon park and join us more intellectuals somewhere between those barrels of beers you laughin’ stock you..??…LMAO!
and learn this, the meaning of words are much to hard for a nut case like you, you just proved that to the whole world (what a shame huh?..LOL!)
What I am aiming at is the “militant anti-war party”squable..dude..??? What the heck is a “militant anti-war” anything anyhow? could you please explain to the rest of us how in the name of all education poorness that something like this “militant anti-war” idea could even come to life in your brain?????
Can any one with a few more years of education behind their ears ever tell me what the heck “militant anti-war” means?
Because if I am not totally blind here, then the “militant” and the “anti-war” kind of seems to contradict each other…(LAUGHING MY ASS OFF FOR REAL HERE) what a freakin’ clown!
June 23rd, 2006 at 12:51 amHUAHAHAHAHAHAAA!!!!
I have to hand it to you who calls your self “BlackRain”. Dude is like a crazy one for real (referring to this Fragboy and his hilarious post. BlackRain must be a comedian of some sort because the way he slams it to that clown is funnier then much I have seen lately and damn straight to the point in a very intellectually joyful way. more troll pounding like this one and I will sleep peacefully and grinning like a wolf while seeing these pundit lambs chopped to harmless slices, let us all take of our satin gloves and shove it to these here half breeding Nazis screaming but low bitching little Nene-Cons. More of what you do and I lift my hat of for ya Sir BlackRain..but please, keep them having it.
June 23rd, 2006 at 1:00 amLieberman is the problem. Not the solution.
Democrats like Lieberman need to be shown to the door in November.
I’m serious. Vote the BUMS out. Forget their gerrymandering crap,
Get the word out.
Vote the BUMS out.
June 23rd, 2006 at 1:33 amLieberman: the Elmer Fudd (’be vewy quiet…I’m hunting tewwowists’) of Democrats–
To paraphrase Rodney Dangerfield: republicans, take this loser PLEASE!
June 23rd, 2006 at 1:51 amJoe Lieberman cannot win in CT, if he was actually a full member of the Republican party, so instead he masquerades as a phony Democrat > call him a Trojan Horse Republican! His job is to damage the Democrats from within and he has done a sinister job of it too! He convinced VP Al Gore to chose him as Al’s running mate in 2000, but actually he was working behind the scenes, for Bush Junior, to screw Gore out of the presidency! Old Joe forced the inclusion of unpostmarked absentee ballots that arrived from overseas in Florida after the election day > those ballots were invalid, but Joe agreed with GOP to have them counted for Bush! He stabbed Gore in the back for 30 pieces of silver from the Bush family! Ever since 2000, he has done the bidding of the GOP and defended Bush’s Iraq fiasco debacle quagmire occupation!
June 23rd, 2006 at 2:08 amAnn is right.
Vichy Joe Lieberman belongs with the GOP, but it shouldn’t be up to him. We should kick his sorry ass out of the Democratic Party.
His only choice should be if he wants the tar first or feathers.
June 23rd, 2006 at 2:11 amBetween the laughable Ms. Coulter, the democrats who don’t remember the damage done to their (my) party by the war-protesting progressives of the Vietnam era, and the vindictive rhetoric so many of those progressive direct at those democrats who differ from their (I hate to say it) radical point of view, it may well be the republicans can retain majorities in both houses of the Congress.
I am a lifelong democrat who also served on active duty in the military for over 30 years. Though called a warmonger by some progressives, my service was about preventing war if possible. I hope that the admonition of Teddy Roosevelt to “Speak softly but carry a big stick” is remembered by at least some of you. The military does have to fight wars in the name of “We the people” to whom they took a solemn oath of office when they pledged to “support, protect and defend” the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic”.
When our nation–by definition a group person–commits to another nation or group of nations that they will do something as in a treaty, accord or compact ratified by the Senate of the United States, that agreement becomes the law of the land. When military personnel are sent in harms way in fulfilling such a pledge, how can the service they render on your behalf be less than honorable absent the commission of a heinous crime by an individual rendering such service. After all, the failure of a military man or woman to carry out a lawful order given to them by a superior is a federal crime punishible by fine, imprisonment or even death.
Let us remember that those now serving in our armed forces are volunteers who have signed a contract with the rest of us to do what OUR government calls on them to do; and, like it or not, that government is headed by a crowd of people most of whom have never seen active military service.
During the last presidential campaign there were many hundreds of thousands of former military personnel (as well as those even then on active duty) who were turned off by much of what Howard Dean said or the way in which he said it. The memories of the way veterans of the Vietnam era were treated by anti-war activists remains all too fresh in the minds of those veterans.
Most career military personnel–those more senior officers and enlisted personnel who had 12 or more years of service–did not support the invasion of Iraq or the way in which it was done. Unlike those of us who rant and rave in forums such as this, they are not privileged to speak out for (like it or not) the are required to hold in abeyance the freedom of speech which they try to protect for all of us. They are not permitted by law to actively engage in political dialogue when in uniform or while representing themselves as military personnel. Would we want it any other way when we consider how many civilian governments have been overrun by military coups?
Then along came the “Swift Boat Veterans for Truth” none of whom served directly with John Kerry. Kerry had been highly decorated for his actions under fire and had, in fact, been wounded by enemy action on 3 occasions. I was and remain totally disgusted by the temerity of those veterans who took it on themselves to demean the honorable service of another veteran–especially when those doing so had no direct knowledge of Kerry’s service.
The Howard Dean rhetoric–rhetoric which seemed a direct slap in the face to many veterans–could not help but turn them off to Dean. The result was ever greater polarization as regards the military with republicans saying they supported the troops and that those who did not support the (internationally) illegal war in Iraq as being traitors to veterans. That bad karma militated greatly against Kerry’s chances to win.
I would admonish those who call themselves progressives to think of one thing–If you can’t get elected, you cannot run the show.
When you viciously attack incumbent democrats and hurt their reelection chances through your diatribes against them, you should remember that the candidate you support may not be elected. Your “progressive” vote may so wound an electable democrat that you insure the republicans you seem to so detest will win instead.
Republicans, and especially those rabid ultra-conservative pundits such as Ann Coulter and those who support her vindictivness, are taking full advantage of the division so many progressives are bringing to the democrat side of the equation.
As a democrat, as a French-American (only since some rabid republicans started talking about “freedom fries”), and as a service-connected disabled veteran who did his best to honorably serve all of you for over 30 years, I find it extremely disconcerting to read the abject hatred of each other so obvious in your writings.
We are all in this together and, at least from my perspective, we should totally honor those who serve in uniform even if we do not support the war in which we have been embroiled based on skewed intelligence for possibly nefarious reasons by NeoCons such as Richard Perle, R