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It is a quite interesting post but quite difficult to understand for me -

Interestingly, this was on CNN last week.

I enjoyed reading your blog. It is so interesting reading other peoples personal take on a subject.

It’s not like warm waters could build up over 30 years of climate change, could they? No, according to our friend here the effect would have to be immediate. Perhaps he could enlighten us: exactly how long does it take Gulf waters to build up heat from a warming climate?

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Seixon, as you can see, Kermit already explained it. I was trying to point out an example of how changing temperatures do not have an immediate effect on large bodies of water.

I’m sure you don’t care, but now you’re on my list of posts I won’t read. I defended you once, because it seemed like you were actually interested in debate. Now I agree with the others. Your posts make very little sense anymore, and you can’t respond reasonably to anyone else.

Why are you asking this question?
Is it abnormal for the lake to take 2 months to freeze and thaw?
If it doesn’t have anything to do with global warming, why in the hell are you even asking the question?

The lake would thaw when it’s warm enough, and freeze when it’s cold enough. That’s just about the best I can give you, and I fail to see the relevance in this discussion.

I’m struggling to understand just what in the hell you are going for here.

Seixon,
I used to live in the Buffalo, NY area on Lake Erie. We’d typically start to get freezing temperatures in October, and by November there were only isolated days above freezing. However, the lake didn’t freeze until January.
Tell me, why didn’t it freeze in November?

According to the weather graph here, it DID freeze in Buffalo, NY this past winter. In November.
I’m not sure what you are trying to get at.

In April, there was usually and end to temperatures below freezing, but the lake didn’t thaw until June.
Tell me: Why didn’t it thaw in April?

I don’t know, but the graph for the past years seems to indicate that it might have. Yet if it didn’t thaw in April but in June, wouldn’t that indicate that the season shifted a few months instead of generally getting warmer?

Now I know in the past it’s been hard for you to draw any logical conclusions, but give it a try and tell me if you think the oceans would respond to temperature changes more quickly or more slowly than a lake?

Well that’s certainly easy, but you seem to have missed the fact that the lake stayed colder until June, according to you, instead of just to April, and started freezing later than usual. In other words, according to you, the temperatures haven’t gotten any warmer, it’s just that the season was changed a few months forward.

By the way, from what I’ve heard, Buffalo winters are far warmer than they were when I lived there.

So what? That doesn’t prove anything. Just looking at the almanac for yesterday, the record high was 92 F, set in 1949, with yesterday’s temp at 78 F. Does that prove anything? No, and neither do your observations that it is supposedly warmer now than what it used to be when you lived there.

The climate changes naturally over time, back and forth. That’s all you are seeming to indicate here. The temperatures in Buffalo, NY are not unprecedented by any means.

In fact, check out this site and check on Buffalo, NY yourself. Here you can see that as of 2003, the winter temperature is no warmer than it was in the early 1930s, and in fact colder than it was in 1881.

As for yearly, Buffalo, NY is no warmer today than it was in 1921, the late 1940s, and even the late 1890s.

Check it out for yourself. If you really believe global warming has effected Buffalo, NY, you are seriously mistaken.

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Now I know in the past it’s been hard for you to draw any logical conclusions, but give it a try and tell me if you think the oceans would respond to temperature changes more quickly or more slowly than a lake?

By the way, from what I’ve heard, Buffalo winters are far warmer than they were when I lived there.

Here’s a good story about the present cohort of scientists denying climate change:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/05/23/AR2006052301305_pf.html

Blogger John Quiggin has a good summary of this story:

If you read the piece with any attention it’s impossible to avoid the conclusions that”

* Richard Lindzen, prominent MIT climate scientist, is an irresponsible contrarian, who’s prepared to defend an implausible position on the off chance of being right when everyone else is wrong

* The Competitive Enterprise Institute, well-known Washington thinktank, is a set of industry shills who will say whatever Exxon pays them to say

* William Gray, respected hurricane expert, is a raving loon who thinks climate change is a conspiracy to bring in world government and compares Al Gore to Hitler (as Achenbach notes, it’s almost impossible to keep the Nazis out of the discussion in GW-sceptic circles)

* All these guys know the score as regards the others

http://crookedtimber.org/2006/06/01/yet-more-hackery/

…Not to mention that there are tons of regulations and laws on the books already that support a clean environment.

None that support cutting CO2 emissions. In fact the federal government is actively trying to stop the states from cutting CO2 emissions. (I thought Republicans were for states rights?)