Fox Gets ‘Fair And Balanced’ Access to Guantanamo
Fox Gets ‘Fair And Balanced’ Access to Guantanamo
Last week, the Pentagon “shut down access entirely” to the Guantanamo Bay prison after the suicide deaths of three detainees. Journalists covering the suicides had their clearances revoked and were immediately flown back to the United States, and regular visits between detainees and their lawyers were cancelled. Human rights groups protested:
This press crackdown is the administration’s latest betrayal of fundamental American values. The Bush Administration is afraid of American reporters, afraid of American attorneys and afraid of American laws.
Afraid of American journalists, that is, as long as they’re not from Fox. This morning, Fox News analyst Judge Andrew Napolitano described how the Defense Department had personally invited him on a trip to Guantanamo on Wednesday:
NAPOLITANO: I was doing my radio show with Brian Kilmeade the other day and I get an email from the Defense Department saying, “We have an extra seat on a flight down to Guantanamo, would you like to come?” So, of course, I cleared it all — I cleared it here with our superiors. …
HOST: What’d you see?
NAPOLITANO: Well, we saw everything. … We saw all six camps. … We had FBI interviews, I actually sat down and examined the evidence they’re going to use at trial with prosecutors. It was very detailed.
HOST: That was some kind of access.
NAPOLITANO: It was. It was great.
Napolitano offered his fair and balanced review of conditions at the prison: among other glowing reviews, he claimed it is “now gentle, almost child-like the way they treat the detainees.”
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I’m sure this guy’s hairline is closer to his eyebrows every time I see him.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,2155,00.html
June 23rd, 2006 at 1:44 pmInstead of hard and rough glowsticks up the butt, detainees will be interogated with soft, plush objects up the butt. And they’ve sanded the edges of teh waterboard so prisoners are less likely to injur themselves in the struggle for air!
June 23rd, 2006 at 1:46 pmJust remember, a certain Rightwinger thought it was funny when her child stuck firecrackers up the backsides of frogs.
June 23rd, 2006 at 1:48 pmSo, it’s a “kinder, gentler” prison? “Now…poke him with…the SOFT PILLOWS!” (No one expects the Gitmo Inquisition!)
June 23rd, 2006 at 1:49 pmPersonally, I would rather the guards acted like adults.
June 23rd, 2006 at 1:51 pm“[. . .] gentle, almost child-like the way they treat the detainees.â€
“Eat your feces! How can you have any pudding if you don’t eat your feces?”
June 23rd, 2006 at 1:52 pmAs if they’re going to trot out the prisoners with bruises for Judge Nappy. Did they all sit down for juice and graham crackers?
June 23rd, 2006 at 1:52 pmGive me a freakin’ break…
The MSM is a bunch of cowed lemmings. They should be outraged at their exclusion to the exclusivity of Fox News. Aren’t there ANY news directos with a set of balls anymore?
June 23rd, 2006 at 1:56 pmA great way to run our country, provide important national security information to only one cable network.
“Adults in charge”?
June 23rd, 2006 at 1:58 pmBadmoodman I hereby invoke an old post of mine:
June 23rd, 2006 at 2:00 pmDamn, when are fox news, and the republican party going to merge? I mean why bother with different headquarters and stuff.
June 23rd, 2006 at 2:01 pmYeah, I’m sure in the same child-like way Andrea Yates and Susan Smith treated their children…
June 23rd, 2006 at 2:02 pmSince both the Pentagon and Fox News Channel are notorious for not telling people the truth, why should we be bothered by any of this? The judge is being used to promote lies and falsehoods. And since he seems more than happy to do so, I see no reason why he should be afforded any respect at all, former judge or not.
June 23rd, 2006 at 2:03 pm#10 - Truly inspired work, Bruce.
June 23rd, 2006 at 2:06 pmThat’s going into my quotes file, with your permission, of course. ;)
As I have said before and I will say again:
Fox News puts the bull back in cock and bull!
June 23rd, 2006 at 2:08 pmhe got an email from the defense dept.?
this administration has made a mockery of journalism.
June 23rd, 2006 at 2:10 pmOhhhh, crayons, cookies and milk! And nap time! Wheeeee!!!!
June 23rd, 2006 at 2:12 pmAFter reading this it is hard not to think of the deception at Theresienstadt
June 23rd, 2006 at 2:12 pmZookeeper
Of course.
June 23rd, 2006 at 2:18 pmGee, maybe he’d like to vacation there with his family.
A good retirement spot perhaps?
June 23rd, 2006 at 2:27 pmHow can an objective person view this and NOT see FoxNews is the propaganda arm of this administration?
June 23rd, 2006 at 2:31 pmThis completely ends all speculation that Fox is nothing more than a media propoganda wing for the Republican Party…..
June 23rd, 2006 at 2:33 pmHow can an objective person view this and NOT see FoxNews is the propaganda arm of this administration?
Comment by Nicho (the other one)
June 23rd, 2006 at 2:46 pm============================
I know.Unbelievable,isn’t it?
Human beings seem to have an amazing capacity to utterly lie to themselves.
Wait one damn minute!
The reason given for booting the media last week was that other media outlets were threatening to sue if they were not allowed in.
Does this mean that all the other media outlets now an open door to sue?
CNN should be calling their lawyers.
June 23rd, 2006 at 2:46 pm#11
Can I infer from your statement that all of the other channels already merged with the democratic party?
June 23rd, 2006 at 2:47 pm#25 No, Grandpa, you may not.
June 23rd, 2006 at 2:55 pmIf you have ever watched the judge, you know this s**t head is naieve, and is just what the Bush administration uses to push thier agenda.
June 23rd, 2006 at 2:59 pmLOL #25,
I know you need to believe in a “liberal media” but please the media didn’t give clinton a free pass on anything. Fox news on the other hand not only gives bush a free pass on everything, but stunts like this, and yesterdays blather about “finding WMD’s” sure they are deeply in bed with the republican party.
You have to understand, reporting an event, and stating the facts does not make them “liberal”. Saying things like no WMD’s found, 2500+ soldiers dead, new violence in Bagdad, or only 4 hours of elecricity per day are facts.
This is stupid crap made for stupid people, who want to truly believe in the Great Decider.
June 23rd, 2006 at 3:03 pmI didn’t realize they were still letting people on the NeverLand Ranch…What a scoop.
June 23rd, 2006 at 3:03 pmFurther proof that Fox is the propoganda arm of the GOP. Anyone see any resemblence to 1984? Maybe it’s just me.
June 23rd, 2006 at 3:03 pmThey don’t even try and hide their bias anymore
June 23rd, 2006 at 3:03 pmwhen you can’t allow a reporter to cover a situation due to those inconvenient truths
June 23rd, 2006 at 3:12 pmyou send in the fox to cover the henhouse
They are treated so well, they want to commit suicide. Talk about the phrase “they are so happy, they could just die!”
June 23rd, 2006 at 3:17 pmThere is no doubt that Fox is the propaganda outlet for Bush&Co. They love the favored treatment - when their guy is no longer in power and Fox is abandoned, whatever will the traitors to America do?
X :I’ve been told Dinsdale Piranha nailed your pelvis to the floor.
O: old Dinsy? …no ,…never,..never….he was a smashing bloke. Like a brother.Never
X : But there is film
O : He had to. Nothing else he could do. He didn’t want to, but I insisted. He was a real darling
X: I understand he nailed you wife’s head to the coffee table
O: NO,…NEVER..not old Dinsy……well he did do that yeah, …just a bit. He was a hard man, but fair.
June 23rd, 2006 at 3:22 pmAttempts at suicide are called “hanging gestures”, nuff said.
June 23rd, 2006 at 3:26 pmI guess they took Napolitano because Joe Goebell’s wasn’t available?
June 23rd, 2006 at 3:30 pmMy daughter is from Russia. I guess this will take care of her longing for a state controlled media.
June 23rd, 2006 at 3:37 pmAfter that we had pepperoni pizza, you know, with all that cheese slurring out, two lemon margaritas and as desert, they served us a whole bag of M&M´s. It was very very detailed.
June 23rd, 2006 at 3:39 pmAnd everyone has a pony!
June 23rd, 2006 at 3:42 pmAnd everybody at Gitmo has a pony!
June 23rd, 2006 at 3:43 pmI wonder if he got to go on the Wateboard ride?
June 23rd, 2006 at 3:48 pm[…] In So Many Ways….. […]
June 23rd, 2006 at 3:54 pmThink Progress Conspiracy Theory Shot Down
June 23rd, 2006 at 3:59 pmhttp://bareknucklepolitics.com/?p=1549
These MF’ERS I HOPE THEY ROTT IN HELL AND I HOPE THAT DEMS WIN AND WIN THE PRESIDENCY AND NOT ALLOW THIS BASTARDS ANYWHERE NEAR PRESS CONFERENCES TO SEE WHAT KIND OF BULLSHIT THEY DISH OUT,
June 23rd, 2006 at 4:01 pmTHESE CARRY CARRY THIS ADMINISTRATION’S JOCK AND THEN SOME
June 23rd, 2006 at 4:03 pm[…] ThinkProgress has the story about how Andrew Napolitano was singled out for a guest pass to the Cuban detainee facility. But since the original story claimed the prior evictions were to prevent lawsuits from news outlets that were not present, does this mean that these other media outlets are now free to sue because Fox was allowed in and nobody else? […]
June 23rd, 2006 at 4:05 pmFox News is awesome. Support our War on Terrorism!!! We have to kill all terrorist before they start killing us even if they are women & children. They hate us because we have so much freedom. Their religion promotes suicide bombers and hate where as our religion promotes love and freedom. Our president needs to take away more civil liberties from you so-called “liberals” because you are not letting the US accomplish Israel’s Special pipeline construction in Iraq. Thats what were there for. Get over this US is there for Oil. You got that wrong, we are in Iraq for Israels interest not Americas. We support Israel and support them ethnic cleansing the Palestinians so that their state can expand. The Bible and Torah have united and anyone standing in our way will be wiped out. Now I must tune into Fox News and spread the word. Oh and dont worry some of your Democrat politians are in this too. Don’t assume this is all Republicans fault. Its the Democrats as well. Thank you for reading my opinion, now I go worship Moloch.
June 23rd, 2006 at 4:09 pm‘It’s child-like the way they treat the detainees’. Yeah that’s becuase they held actual children there ages 12-16 for several years…. and we heard little of that in the MSM. especially FAUX News.
June 23rd, 2006 at 4:10 pmhey faux news wants hilary clinton to run. i guess we must vote since she is a democrat. right?
June 23rd, 2006 at 4:20 pmhttp://www.airtorture.com
Free flights anywhere in the world
June 23rd, 2006 at 4:31 pm#11
Can I infer from your statement that all of the other channels already merged with the democratic party?
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Your sense of reasoning is warped! Could it be senility, grandpa?
June 23rd, 2006 at 4:36 pmFox is Murdock he’s from Australia his news papers even in Australia do not report this sort of news why should he report anything he is part of the rot
Thursday June 22, 10:32 AM
Australian troops shoot Iraqi minister’s bodyguards
By 7News
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The Vice Chief of the Australian Defence Force has confirmed that Australian soldiers protecting a trade delegation in Baghdad have mistakenly killed a bodyguard working for the Iraqi trade minister.
Three other people were wounded in the incident.
All were wearing civilian clothing and armed with rifles when they tried to overtake the trade convoy.
It was believed the Australians thought they were insurgents. An investigation is underway.
Initially it was reported that private security contractors protecting the convoy may have shot the men, but the ADF has confirmed members of its own security detachment were involved.
Lieutenant General Ken Gillespie expressed deep regret at the injuries and loss of life.
Pictures from the scene showed a white four-wheel-drive vehicle with bullet holes in the windscreen, which appeared to have run off the road. Blood was visible at the driver’s side door.
The Iraqi minister, Abdel Falah Al-Sudani, has called for trade with Australia to be suspended immediately.
He described the shooting as intentional criminal aggression and called on the Australian government to compensate the victims, describing the dead man as a martyr.
Australia has been trying to re-establish trade ties with Iraq in the wake of the AWB kickbacks scandal, where the national wheat exporter was found to have made secret payments to Saddam Hussein’s regime prior to the US inva
June 23rd, 2006 at 4:37 pmMy wife and I would like to go there for our thirty-third anniversary next month.
June 23rd, 2006 at 4:39 pmFox gives it four stars.
Can i get anymore corrupt!!! What this white house is allowed to get away with is beyond me!!!! only the bush administration can pick and choose who they want to send to their little nazi concentration camp. of course, faux news will paint a glowing picture!!!! what a bunch of assholes. i’ve had it with the lot of them!!!!!!!
June 23rd, 2006 at 4:42 pmThe correct spelling is FAUX Gnus.
Also, who cares if the other MSM journalists weren’t invited. Their accounts would not have been much different because they all work for the same corporate fascists.
The MSM is dead! Long live the internet!
June 23rd, 2006 at 4:55 pm[…] First up, ThinkProgress has an interesting tidbit about FoxNews being uniquely granted access to Guantanamo even after the rest of the media has been escorted off the island. This morning, Fox News analyst Judge Andrew Napolitano described how the Defense Department had personally invited him on a trip to Guantanamo on Wednesday: […]
June 23rd, 2006 at 5:17 pmIt is now official: Fox News is a branch of the government.
June 23rd, 2006 at 5:30 pmWell, if you saw Nora Odonnell on Hardball talking to a recently released prisoner from Gitmo, you’d think she works for the Bush administration.
NORA?
We used to think you were a hot babe.
Now you’re starting to look like Ann Coulter.
June 23rd, 2006 at 5:48 pmI don’t care how they’re treated as long as they haven’t been convicted of a crime.
I’ve heard some contrarian reports from the judge and I thought he’d have picked up on something this basic.
I guess he’s getting to like being a star.
June 23rd, 2006 at 5:50 pmElements of our own Gov’t were complicit in 9/11!!! How long are we going to play the “Eperor Has No Clothes”???
June 23rd, 2006 at 5:51 pmI find it so amusing that liberals are so scared of and annoyed with Fox News. For years, the left has had a complete monopoly on news coverage. The New York Times, CBS News, CNN, et al. could always be counted on to tow the liberal line and parrot the Democratic Party’s message. Now that Fox News is on the scene and actually dares to present an alternate viewpoint, the left is outraged. I can understand the frustration…Liberals had a monopoly and now it’s gone.
June 23rd, 2006 at 5:55 pmI find it so amusing that liberals are so scared of and annoyed
Comment by Exley — June 23, 2006 @ 5:55 pm
I know you’re kidding right?
Fox news isn’t news, its the propaganda arm of the right wing.
Now put on your armband and get back to work dexter, or we’ll cancel your subscription to Soldier of Fortune.
June 23rd, 2006 at 5:58 pmThe New York Times, CBS News, CNN, et al. could always be counted on to tow the liberal line and parrot the Democratic Party’s message
Comment by Excrement — June 23, 2006 @ 5:55 pm
LMFAO…holy crap.. yea, you’re right nimrod, CBS, CNN, NYT, NBC, ABC, BBC, all against you. In fact, every major news orginazation is against you.
Wonder why?
June 23rd, 2006 at 6:03 pm#62.
Hey, I am just saying you guys really seem to be worked up into a lather not only that Fox News has shattered the liberals’ and DNC’s monopoly on news coverage and its concomitant anti-Republican bias, but also over the fact that Fox is demolishing its liberal competitors (CNN, MSNBC) in the ratings…
As a former president once said, “I feel your pain,”
June 23rd, 2006 at 6:05 pmExley, I know that you and Wayne had a nice, civil conversation yesterday, but…I have to disagree with your post entirely. First, no one is “scared of” Fox News. Annoyed, yes; outraged, sometimes; disgusted, almost always. As far as the “left has had a complete monopoly on news coverage”, that’s just crap. The reporting of hard facts should not be confused with ‘to[eing] the liberal line…” When it comes to news, i.e., facts and events going on around the world, what “alternate viewpoint” is there other than the truth?
June 23rd, 2006 at 6:11 pmYou’re the one in here that seems to be “worked up” excrete.
I’m just laughing at you.
In fact, I watch Bill O’reilly’s “The Factor” almost nightly, just for laughs.
I even suggested he change the name of the show to “The Laugh Factor(y)”.
:D
June 23rd, 2006 at 6:14 pmHere dexter, lets see what that Liberal Rag known as THE WASHINGTON POST has to say about you and the Bowery Boyz.
June 23rd, 2006 at 6:17 pmSee?
I just proved your point for you.
Everyone but your cartoon buddies over at Pox News is against you.
Even the Washington Post.
June 23rd, 2006 at 6:19 pmwhy is everybody (or anybody) all in a twit about the care of these islamic terrorist scumbags?? Whose side in this war exactly is everybody on?? nothing like rooting for the home team kids!!
June 23rd, 2006 at 6:24 pmI personally don’t care if they are forced to run around naked with their sacred koran super glued to their foreheads, their butts tattooed with the likeness of their “allah” and force fed pig guts personally. scre em.
Where the hell is your outrage over two of our boys who were captured , tortured, slashed with machetes and beheaded?? Where is your cry for the Geneva convention rights for them?? where is your sense of decency for these American kids who were killed brutally?? That is why I say we should force these Islamic terrorist scumbags to be force fed pig shit until they bust!
# 65 Jane, Yes…Wayne and I did a civil discussion yesterday. It was a pleasure to discuss differences calmly without name-calling (CLUBBER WORFEUS should try to emulate that type of courtesy. I notice he has already degenerated into name-calling)…I am simply saying that this site seems to be inordinately focused on Fox News. Let us say, for the samke of argument, (I mean “debate”.. No arguing here) that Fox has a slightly more conservative tilt (I do not deny that, by the way). So what? Isn’t debate and the free exchange of ideas something to be encouraged. I disagree with you when you say that most of the news media does not have a liberal-bias (In my opinion, it clearly does), I think it is healthy that an alternate analysis of the news is highly desirable. I think the fact that Fox News is so highly rated shows that much of the American people agree with that.
June 23rd, 2006 at 6:29 pmIf people want to receive their news with a slightly more liberal tilt, they get to watch CNN or MSNBC or read The New York Times or The Washington Post….If others want to watch their news with a more conservative viewpoint, now they have Fox News. Its competition in the marketplace od ideas. I do not think that is a bad thing.
I’d like to see you with something supoerglued to your forehead moonbitch patrol.
June 23rd, 2006 at 6:29 pmOne more step towards demolishing America.
June 23rd, 2006 at 6:30 pmOne giant leap towards a facist state!
Too bad his Honor didn’t leave his wife there.
June 23rd, 2006 at 6:32 pmIt was a pleasure to discuss differences calmly without name-calling (CLUBBER WORFEUS should try to emulate that type of courtesy.
Comment by Excrement— June 23, 2006 @ 6:29 pm
Awww boo hoo. Looky. The little Nazi sympathizer got his feelings hurt.
If you don’t like being called names dimwit, what the hell is your slimey greasy lying right wing butt doing in an OPPOSITION blog?
Go cry to your momma little girl.
June 23rd, 2006 at 6:32 pmI personally don’t care if they are forced to run around naked with their sacred koran super glued to their foreheads, their butts tattooed with the likeness of their “allah†and force fed pig guts
Comment by moonrat — June 23, 2006 @ 6:24 pm
Really?
Ok.
Send us your guts and we’ll feed them to em.
June 23rd, 2006 at 6:34 pmI am simply saying that this site seems to be inordinately focused on Fox News.
Comment by Excrement— June 23, 2006 @ 6:29 pm
And you seem inordinately focused on defending Fox news.
So tell us.
Hows the pay over there?
June 23rd, 2006 at 6:36 pmExley, I like my news to be, well, news. I can provide my own slant myself without someone telling me how to think about it. Another thing that I forgot to mention is how ‘news’ and ‘news-like’ talking-head shows just seem to blur the line dividing them. Give me the news of the day on one broadcast, then, if you insist, give me the news with ‘analysis’. Just make sure they’re separate.
And, while I usually try to be civil, I have to agree with Worfeus’s comment #71 about Moonbat Patrol.
Wayne and I are heading home, everyone have a good weekend!
June 23rd, 2006 at 6:40 pmActually Clubber, I didn’t get my feelings hurt. It, in fact, pleases me when I see you having to resort to such childishness. It reveals just how you really have nothing of substance to say. I can’t help but believe your outbursts embarass some of your more mature colleagues who actually take the time to post thoughtful comments and responses. I was simply trying to help you. You undermine your credibility when you resort to such juvenile antics.
June 23rd, 2006 at 6:41 pmActually Clubber, I didn’t get my feelings hurt.
Comment by Steaming Pile of Excrement — June 23, 2006 @ 6:41 pm
Then what the hell are you crying about ?
June 23rd, 2006 at 6:44 pmGeesh.
Give me Aphrodite any day.
Least she isn’t such a crybaby puss.
June 23rd, 2006 at 6:44 pmI was simply trying to help you.
Comment by sExley — June 23, 2006 @ 6:41 pm
Yea? Well shut up then and kneel a little lower.
June 23rd, 2006 at 6:47 pmJane, I agree…News and analysis should be kept separate. But unfortunately I find that is not always the case with much of the mainstream media, which all too often displays a liberal bias. I too would like to see news delivered objectively and fairly. But until that happens and the mainstream media reports the news without a liberal bias, conservatives are entitled to a news outlet that provides the news without such bias. It was the journalistic “sins” of the mainstream media over the years that gave rise to the market for Fox News.
Have a good weekend. I too am leaving.
June 23rd, 2006 at 6:48 pmAnd Clubber, you have a nice weekend too. You are a very amusing little man.
June 23rd, 2006 at 6:50 pmTell you what.
I’m gonna do you to mooks a favor.
When the Nuremburg 2 trials come out, and we’re hanging your murderous cowardly unAmerican kind, just plead insanity.
We’ll believe it.
June 23rd, 2006 at 6:50 pmAnd Clubber, you have a nice weekend too.
Comment by Excrement — June 23, 2006 @ 6:50 pm
Why thank you!
You too mook.
June 23rd, 2006 at 6:52 pmSomeone should call Child Protective Services.
If Napolitano thinks that’s “childlike”, clearly his own kids (if any) are in danger.
June 23rd, 2006 at 6:53 pmSince Faux News is really not a news station, more like a RNC talking points provider, other news media should not be all that upset. It’s just propaganda they are after and we all know you in the rightwing media like NBC, MSNBC, NYT, WaPo, and of cource the WSJ, would have none of that. Is this why you other news providers just repeat the RNC talking points, so you’ll get invited to Gitmo for tour of their new and improved, soft ,”child like” wing? In keeping with the “child like” conditions, Republican Kool Aid will be served before all torture and is available for purchase between sessions.
June 23rd, 2006 at 6:54 pmNot too late for some of you guys to enlist since they’ve had to raise the recruitment age to 42. We expect all brown shirts under that age to enlist today for duty in Iraq.
Good point Dr Bill.
Course, we should get some sort of disclaimer flashed on screen before the Goebbels gang opens their mouths every night on POX News.
Just something like;
June 23rd, 2006 at 7:02 pmgood luck clubber you’ll need it pal!! Clubber we know who side you are on now don’t we?? I guess you would rather live under some gutter religion rule wouldn’t ya? I would love to see that for just one minute
June 23rd, 2006 at 7:16 pmClubber: hey you can’t do that it’s unconstitutional
Muslim: BANG!
Clubber: hey you shot me!!
Muslim. Achmed get me the big knife this infidel is not dead yet.
Clubber: hey that’s aginst the geneva convention too!
muslim: slice, hack , cut
Clubber: gurgle, gurgle… sound of headless body falling on floor. end of story
it’s “hip” to rail against Bush ain’t it?? makes ya feel all cool and progressive but in your little insular world you obviously have no concept of the magnitiude of the real threat. You think Bush & co are fascist?? i would be interested to see how well you like living under Islamic law and punishment. I’ll bet after , oh say maybe 20 seconds or so you would be willing to admit that Bush isn’t so bad after all.
but hey don’t take my word for it . next time we are attacked or under threat call that little senile apple doll of the left Helen Thomas. Or maybe the NY times and Boston Globe will help…no, maybe john Kerry … no, he will be hiding under his bed. Murtha, feingold… ah, no again they will be hiding under ted kennedy’s fat ass looking for shelter.
you talk an almost good fight worfeus but if the fretilizer hit the ventilator (translation for liberals- “the shit hit the fan”) you and all your “progressive” little hipster-whiners would be yelping that Bush did not do enought to protect us… right before some muslim dirtbag cut your head off with a dull rusty machete…….
Thanks to Gitmo you can bet Al Qaeda met its recruitment goals without any problems. It’s no surprise the ‘real’ press was kicked out and only Fox News given access. It’s probably too late anyway. The damage has been done. The USA’s image is already pass the Catch-22 threshold in the Arab world. Invading Iraq made sure of that. Gitmo and the other prison scandals are just icing on the cake.
June 23rd, 2006 at 7:23 pmI know you’re nothing but a coward and a liar.
Thats what I know moonbitch.
Too afraid of a tiny country in the middle east with no Navy, no Long Range Air Force and no ability to deliver a nuke, even if they could make one, which they can’t.
You’re a coward.
And you’re a traitor to everything it means to be American.
Everything my father and his brothers fought for in WW2, and everything good in all of us.
You’re an enemy to freedom, and you’re an enemy to democracy.
A bigger enemy than any terrorist could ever be.
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June 23rd, 2006 at 7:27 pmTerrorists can blow up buildings, and kill people.
But they’ll NEVER be in this situation you describe moonrat. Unless of course most Americans are cowards like you, and turn the entire world against us.
America is stronger than any terrorist bomb or any terrorist act. America is an idea. Its a mentality. America is true freedom, where the strong protect the weak, and where all other countries can live without fear of us, because they know America is a nation that ENDS wars, but never start them.
America is greater than you or I, or any terrorist. America is the truth.
You are the lie.
June 23rd, 2006 at 7:37 pmnice try again clubber but the personal attacks which are your standard MO don’t really cut it. Quit acting like a five year old and put aside your blind rage at Bush and try to think rationally about the real threat. Yeah they don;t have all the tech and military stuff but they did have enought smart to attack us in a way that collectively hurt the american spirit.
June 23rd, 2006 at 7:45 pmYou say that your realtives fought in WW 2 and that is admirable and honorable but think about it for a minute. if you took your values as to this war and put it in perspective of WW2 then where would we be?? maybe living uder German or Japanese rule??
it’s easy for you to sit at your keyboard and call me a coward. Maybe I am a chickenhsit. But I am a chickenshit who does not want to live under the threat of another attack on amenrican soil. I am a chickenshit who does not want to live under Islamic law. I am willing to fight and support the people who fight to stop those that would attack us and our country .
I know that fighting with you is fruitless. you and i are worlds apart when it comes to these things but the personal attacks on someone who disagrees with you is juvenile and counterproductive and only benefits the real enemy. I am not a traitor . I love this country and do not want to see it fall into the hands of islamic terrorists or people like you.
Yeah they don;t have all the tech and military stuff but they did have enought smart to attack us in a way that collectively hurt the american spirit.
Comment by moonbatty — June 23, 2006 @ 7:45 pm
Hurt the American spirit. BAW HA HA OMFG, that is the funniest damn thing I’ve heard in a long time…stop, you’re killing me.
June 23rd, 2006 at 8:05 pm#89.
Do you just not get that as Americans, over the last 200+ years, we have fought to become a civilized nation. That means that even though our enemies may use barbaric tactics, we MUST rise above the sludge and show that there is a better way of representing our nation and it’s goals.
We are OUTRAGED at the disgusting manner by which our troops are vicitmized… but if we utilize the same tactics, or are found to use torture, we become no better than our enemies (just sludge)… but I assure you, we are a better people, a better nation. The fact than you can spout off about how you think we should treat or kill our enemies like they kill us, with no regard to the treaties and agreements we have signed is proof we are a better nation… Every citizien, even the less civilized or less intelligent can say what they like with the freedom of knowing you are protected by our Constittion… unless of course, the Administration decides you can’t spout off, in which case they’ll just add a signing statement to any law to allow themselves to disregard said law they just signed… Or they’ll tell a Judge hearing a case about ‘alleged’ spying that ‘might’ be proven to be illiegal that the Judge who represents a consititionally protected co-equal branch of the same gevernment cannot allow the case to be adjudicated because it would reveal State Secrets, so as to sweep the whole topic under the rug… I mean can’t a Judge just hear the case and make a determination in secret?… If not, is the Judicial Branch really co-equal?.
If you cannot or don’t want to see the headlights coming, that’s you’re prerogative, but some of us want off this train, and hopefully we can come together in large enough numbers to initiate change.
All you have to do is imagine you’ve been arrested for something you know you didn’t do, but you’re not allowed to make a phone call, or talk to an attorney, or even let your family know you’re alive…. FOR YEARS… imagine that this is the United States of America, the same country with freedoms that you swore allegiance to ‘under God’ when you were in Elementary School… Just imagine this scenario, then maybe you might be able to admit… it’s a ‘little’ scary ain’t it?
Peace and Good Luck!
June 23rd, 2006 at 8:07 pmNo really, stop it.
You’re killin me.
June 23rd, 2006 at 8:08 pmI am a chickenshit
Comment by scardybat patrol — June 23, 2006 @ 7:45 pm \
First honest thing you’ve said all night.
June 23rd, 2006 at 8:11 pmI don’t know. This all seems kind of gay.
June 23rd, 2006 at 8:15 pmSeriously though moonjap, if you honestly think that the backwards nations of the middle east are going to “overrun” the United States of America, than you are more of a chicken than anyone I have ever met.
You want to be afraid of the new Chinese-Russo alliance? Ok. Cool. We can talk.
You want to be concerned about Bin Laden coming out of hiding in Kashmir and overthrowing Musharif and seizing the Nukes? Sure. I’m down with that.
But being afraid of the tiny nation of Iraq, is like Don Knotts being afraid of Mike Tyson.
Grow a pair.
June 23rd, 2006 at 8:15 pmLOL, I mean Mike Tyson being afraid of Don Knotts.
That would make you Mike.
June 23rd, 2006 at 8:20 pmSee, Americans aren’t opposed to defending their country. In fact, they embrace the idea.
We’re just against Nazi like occupations of tiny defenseless nations.
June 23rd, 2006 at 8:26 pmyou progressievs are so moronic, no wonder you cannot get elected to public office. Nazi, nazi nazi the call of the great American moonbat moron.
June 23rd, 2006 at 9:14 pmall you juvenile leftards can do is hurl insults and further convince the world that ten year olds should not have access to computers.
Hey idiot! butthead worfeus shut up and pay attention and you might just learn something. Bin Laden flew foor planes and killed 3000 Americans you juvenile idiot.
I musta got your little panties in knot tho - I mean what 5-6 posts over my last post. Feels like your heads gona assplode over the fact that somebody is smarter than you doesn’t it. How dare i disagree with the great clubber worfeus.
i mean where did you get THAT retarded name?? Is it a cross between clubber laing from roicky and the ugliest star trek character?? you must have given that name to yourself to boost your underinflated ego . The more you write the more I am convinced you are some 11 year old kid on his mommies computer. your juvenile attemempt at intellect is pathetic but typical of the moonbat chickenshit left.
so in closing clubhead grow up and look around you. get off your mommies computer and quit trying to score with all the skanky hippy girls and smoking pot in mommies basement and someday maybe you’ll progress from being the illiterate immature punk you are today.
moonbat pat thinks he is smart ,sorry, not after that retard ramble hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaahhaahhaahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahahahah!WHEW!
moon bat thinks he or it is not a chickenhawk backer, thus a chickenhawk himself hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaahahahah PFFT!
get back to the trailer white trash fairy your big fat pig mother is getting things out a balance siiting all alone in the front.
man these rightards sound stupid
June 23rd, 2006 at 9:42 pmIsn’t Faux News is a subsidiary of Halliburton?.
June 23rd, 2006 at 9:56 pmHey moonbatty.
Nazi.
June 23rd, 2006 at 9:58 pmBut nice rant.
Lets us all see just how easily I push your wittle buttons.
Lamebrain.
:D
June 23rd, 2006 at 10:14 pmI am a chickenshit
Comment by moonbat patrol — June 23, 2006 @ 7:45 pm
:D
June 23rd, 2006 at 10:16 pm“Well, we saw everything. … We saw all six camps. … We had FBI interviews, I actually sat down and examined the evidence they’re going to use at trial with prosecutors. It was very detailed.”
very detailed????
you mean like Colin Powell’s presentation to the UN? Seems like that was “very detailed” too, yes? Remind me again, how many of those “details” were grounded on fact, i.e. they were ever shown to be true AFTER the illegal invasion?
why do RWNs hate America?
June 23rd, 2006 at 10:27 pmHow much more are we expected to swallow from this ‘leadership’? How much more blatantly can we be insulted? With all of the whirlwind of ridiculous behaviors that are being displayed with the Canadian thing, the Miami thing, with Snow now being ‘the teacher’ mouthpiecing for the ‘the decider’, etc., etc., etc. and now this piece of engineered b.s……..we must have someone somewhere in the media who can put all of this together and present it so that even neocons can see through it. Of course they already know it’s b.s. and they laugh. It’s really amazing that all of this, which is so immature, is being fed to all during the prelim to the elections……..and sadly there are some who will really believe it.
June 23rd, 2006 at 11:33 pmFOX News whores should go live at GITMO for a year as prisoners, then report back about their treatment!
June 24th, 2006 at 12:00 amFoxNews covering Guantanamo. Absurd.
June 24th, 2006 at 12:40 amThey will whitewash the Guantanamo story.
Maybe they should cover real news, like caging protestors, forcing book outlets to stop selling books like
“America Deceived” by E.A. Blayre III because of it’s Orwellian nature and scenes involving Foxnews anchorwomen.
Maybe Foxnews shouild cover the inside job on 9/11 or NSA wiretapping ALL phones (without a warrant).
No, that may require reporting news.
Support Indy Media.
Last link (before Google Books gets a call from Foxnews):
http://www.iuniverse.com/ bookstore/ book_detail.asp?&isbn=0-595-38523-0
[…] As reported by Thinkprogress, the Pentagon shut down access entirely to the Guantanamo Bay prison after the suicide deaths of three detainees. Journalists covering the suicides had their clearances revoked and were immediately flown back to the United States, and regular visits between detainees and their lawyers were cancelled. […]
June 24th, 2006 at 1:00 amIf its ““now gentle, almost child-like the way they treat the detainees.†then why don’t they allow another network besides Fox to visit?
DO THEY THINK WE’RE RETARDED???
June 24th, 2006 at 1:25 amwhy wouldnt the right wing send its own station? the merger between the press and gov is now beginning. first, cheney only wants his own far right wing party’s “news” channel on, now the administration only allows its own de facto station to cover the guatanomo news first hand.
this has more in common with the old soviet union than the u.s. (as the far right is, not coincidentally, starting to dismantle the critical checks on governmental power under our constitutino, and upon which our nation was founded)
look, anybody NOT a right wing republican. please get this message out. post it everywhere, on conservative sites. moderate sites. send to real (if “bad”) media sources:
meanwhile, here’s a few examples on one of its frontline “fake” journalists, to being to set the record straight. hey may have more in common with hussein than he thinks….he just happened to have been born in America…..
June 24th, 2006 at 1:58 am#89-Moonbat Patrol, “next time we are attacked”- considering BushCo ignored more than 50 warnings that an attack was coming BEFORE 9/11, it seems THEIR lack of an ability to comprehend the magnitude of the real threat is exactly what got us to this point in the first place. I don’t trust their judgement. And if we are attacked again, I’m sure you will be first in line, demanding an explanation for how they let it happen, because they were doing everything they could, legal or not, to keep us safe, won’t you?
June 24th, 2006 at 2:50 amRight on, #10
June 24th, 2006 at 7:59 amWow! How convenient! The DOD contacts this guy DURING his show, with an ‘out of the blue’ offer he couldn’t resist. They just HAPPENED to have this ‘extra’ seat on this flight, and this guy instantly came to mind as THE perfect person to fill it! Cause kicking out all of the journalist’s might have given people the wrong impression, like maybe they have something to hide. Don’t want THAT! And they give him ‘the Grand Tour’, focusing on all of the ‘highlights’ and even a shot of one of those “terrorist killers”, as GWB calls them, looking down right at ease, and relaxed. And he even got access to the evidence against the detainees, their lawyers don’t even get that! I wonder if he got to try that “Lemon Chicken” they serve to those pampered prisoners. And he fell for it, hook, line and sinker, as if there was any doubt he would. But who was that guy in the picture? I can’t imagine BushCo would take a risk like that! He might be recognized by Al Queda, since they watch Fox News, 24/7. He could have sent a signal somehow. Careless! Who would believe this ‘infomercial’, courtesy of the DOD and Fox News? Some trolls I can think of, of course, but that is a given. They WANT to believe it. This must be that ‘transparent government’ thing GWB was talking about, because it’s transparent, all right.
June 24th, 2006 at 8:06 am[…] • The Pentagon banned the media from the Guantanamo Bay prison after the suicide deaths of three detainees with the exception of….., FOXNews (GOP-TV). Fox News analyst Judge Andrew Napolitano even chortled about how the Defense Department had personally invited him on a trip to visit Guantanamo. Let me say this again: it's time for Donald Rumsfeld to resign or be fired. Enough already. […]
June 24th, 2006 at 8:13 amprogressive moonbats prove what steaming piles of dung they are everytime they open their mouths. We should move the Islamic prisoners from Guantanamo and start putting some of the stupid dirtbag liberals there.
June 24th, 2006 at 9:28 amno wonder you idiot moonbats keep losing elections . I have never seen such a collection of shitheads and morons like I see posting here.
queer for karl Rove?? WTF ?? where do you idiots come up with these names. I would not be proud about calling myself a sexual degenerate homo.
traitorous slime , only slightly worse than little rabid poodles barking.
America love it or leave it you sick dirtbags.
at this point anyone who believes anything they hear on tv (any channel) is just retarded
June 24th, 2006 at 10:12 amThe whole situation is so sad its funny!
June 24th, 2006 at 10:15 amSo sad its funny!
June 24th, 2006 at 10:18 amSo sad its funny!
June 24th, 2006 at 10:18 am[…] Think Progress: Fox Gets ‘Fair And Balanced’ Access to Guantanamo […]
June 24th, 2006 at 11:03 am# 123,124,125-Ben:
You better hope all those ‘dodders’ are over 18 years of age.
June 24th, 2006 at 12:15 pmWhy is it that the trolls have no idea what America is/was all about. All they can do is yell about how the “Lib’s” are UNamerikkkan and shitheads, etc,. They never have anything but trash and garbage to spew, no answers or rational thinking. Just hate and ignorance. How droll.
Welcome to room 101.
June 24th, 2006 at 12:27 pmprogressive moonbats prove what steaming piles of dung they are everytime they open their mouths. We should move the Islamic prisoners from Guantanamo and start putting some of the stupid dirtbag liberals there.
Comment by moonbat patrol — June 24, 2006 @ 9:28 am
Aww..watsa matter?
Did the progressives make a fool out of you again Herr Goering?
I know its hard being a nazi pig but don’t worry. You’re 15 minutes are about up.
June 24th, 2006 at 12:29 pmwhere do you idiots come up with these names. I would not be proud about calling myself a sexual degenerate homo.
traitorous slime , only slightly worse than little rabid poodles barking.
America love it or leave it you sick dirtbags.
Comment by moonrat inbredmole — June 24, 2006 @ 9:28 am
Yes, I know its frustrating, but you’re as impotent in here as you are in your sisters bed.
:P
June 24th, 2006 at 12:35 pmWhy is it that the trolls have no idea what America is/was all about. All they can do is yell about how the “Lib’s†are UNamerikkkan and shitheads, etc,. They never have anything but trash and garbage to spew, no answers or rational thinking. Just hate and ignorance. How droll.
Funny that sounds similiar to the rhetoric the left uses When are people going to realize that both sides are FOS.
June 24th, 2006 at 12:50 pmho hum - the wofeus sisters are in liberal attack mode. That means if they can leave their brothers behind long enough they get on their parents computer and try to write thoughtful intelligent comebacks to the big bad conservatives. I, like the rest of america laugh at you and revel and rejoice in your immature little tantrums.
but # 123 that was a good if not ameteurish attempt at Icelandic .
the morons are out look out America ! if they can’t fight you with logic they will call you names..oh no!
June 24th, 2006 at 1:03 pmWll said. The corporate media is our NUMBER ONE ENEMY.
The FOXymorons just do it a bit better than the others. But they’re all complicit in all the crimes of this administration.
What’s a FOXymoron? Duh.
June 24th, 2006 at 4:19 pm
Nothing is more dangerous for fascist like governments than an informed public.
June 24th, 2006 at 6:04 pmGuantanamo By the Numbers;
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/ jeralyn-merritt/ guantanamo-by-the-numbers_b_15317.html
“1. Fifty-five percent (55%) of the detainees are not determined to have committed any hostile acts against the United States or its coalition allies.”
“2. Only 8% of the detainees were characterized as al Qaeda fighters. Of the remaining detainees, 40% have no definitive connection with al Qaeda at all and 18% are have no definitive affiliation with either al Qaeda or the Taliban.”
Read the rest in the link, and also watch “The Power of Nightmares”.
I read somewhere that we are 24th in the world for freedom of information. Are we fascist yet?
June 24th, 2006 at 8:19 pmMoonrat.
It was my pleasure.
June 24th, 2006 at 11:46 pmDon’t you get it? Gitmo is a smokescreen so no one will focus on the secret torture camps in Eastern Europe, where we can only guess at the Gestapo treatment of the prisoners.
June 25th, 2006 at 3:12 am[…] Great. Wonderful. I’m a little behind on this one, too, but it still managed to give me the same ache in my stomach that it would’ve if it were new: So, a week ago, the DOD tossed reporters out of the Guantanamo Bay detention camp. Big surprise, there. Embarrassed by the prisoner suicides, they couldn’t have the pesky media around to perhaps give the slightest, thinest of hints as to the horrors behind those fences. Now, as of Friday, the government has relented and once again, the Gitmo operation will be exposed to the light of day. Well, the light of Fox. In the spirit of being fair, balanced and entirely above board, Fox News analyst Judge Andrew Napolitano was personally invited by the Pentagon to pop on down and reveal the truth about our little gulag. And what did the good judge have to say about the prison camp? Speaking of the conditions in the camp, His Fair and Balancedness pronounced: … [it is] now gentle, almost child-like the way they treat the detainees. Sigh. [link] […]
June 25th, 2006 at 9:13 pmNo, let’s be factual, 3000 Americans were NOT killed on 09/11/01… nearly 200 of the victims were our TRADING partners from Canada, Britain, France, etc. Which is why it was so easy to put together a REAL coalition, to go after the REAL terrorists. It was, after all, the World TRADE Center…
And the attack on the Pentagon was NOT ‘terrorism against innocent civilians’… if the PENTAGON isn’t a legitimate military target than nothing in the world IS… I just can’t believe those Bozos were so lax they couldn’t even put some grunt on top of the Pentagon, like they have on the White House, with a Stinger…
And NOW we’re supposed to blindly ’stay the course’ with the assholes who were ASLEEP AT THE SWITCH (at the least) on 9/11… why, because they were so INCOMPETANT? Right, ’stay the course’ and receive ‘more of the same’… great… (HEAVY sarcasm)…
June 26th, 2006 at 12:32 amEVERYTHING IS EVERYTHING, WHAT IS MEANT TO BE WILL BE!
June 26th, 2006 at 7:28 amFor the first time in my life, I can truly say that I am ashamed of “My fellow Americans”.
I found this blog by accident, while researching a story about teaching bias that I heard on a radio station. I am now ashamed, because I as and American, am thrown in with what has become “Common” thought. It is truly shocking to actually see that there are so many people in this country that blindly follow the media and what they are told.
You spout hatred and disgust and have very little in the way of anything constructive other than “down with the government”. Unless you.. not what you have heard or been told, have actually been there, then please understand that neither side the reporting may be the absolute truth. For a country as great as ours to be even remotely associated with Nazi’s by its own citizens shows just how far from the truth you have led by the nose. In the countries that many of you say we are terrorists to, your comments aginst the government there would have you beheaded and your head placed on a pole in your front yard for all your neighbors to see what happens to those that dont agree with the establishment.
I believe America is a great nation. I believe this because I have personaly seen the good we do, and enjoy the freedoms that we have that we are trying to allow others to have. If the masses, and yes that means many of you continue to take for truth everything that you hear, or read or see on TV, then what is America will soon become what you fear it to be alredy. America will fall from internal dissent and another nation WILL take over. Then you will truly have something to be upset about when you no longer have the freedoms to speak out in such a forum as this.
GOD bless America, and the people that defend her!
June 28th, 2006 at 10:18 am[…] Contrary to claims in the U.S. media that conditions in Guantanamo have improved, Australian terror suspect David Hicks, who is being held at the prison camp, told relatives that conditions have worsened since three inmates committed suicide last month. […]
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