Newsweek reports on a draft copy of a national reconciliation plan soon to be announced by Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki. It will ask for a firm U.S. withdrawal plan to be enforced by a United Nations resolution. Kevin Drum thinks Bush should seize on the plan to declare victory and “assure everyone that the job is close to done.”
Get out now.
June 24th, 2006 at 5:07 pmSo the Iraqi’s are cut and runners? How’s the GOP going to play this one?
June 24th, 2006 at 5:14 pmSaddam’s gone, no WMD, no oil for US, no freedom on the march for Iraq, no peace in te middle east, no connection to 9-11, untold thousands dead and suffering, and no utilities. What else can we do for Iraq? Since the great majority of the USAAND Iraqi people have lost faith in President Bush and his Administration’s handling of all aspects of the war, why not leave.
June 24th, 2006 at 5:16 pmThis is a chance to get out with honor and perhaps bring an end to the insurgency. It makes sense , therefore the Bush administration will not do it.
June 24th, 2006 at 5:17 pmGive them a chance to make it work.
Something tells me the Repubs are going to take them up on this, but hold out until after the midterms. Let’s hope they’re not still in control of both the House and Senate at that point. Leave it to them to seriously screw this up.
June 24th, 2006 at 5:18 pmGet out now.
Comment by Sybil — June 24, 2006 @ 5:07 pm
Did you hurt yorself coming up with that exceptionally witty repartee?
June 24th, 2006 at 5:22 pmSo what do we call the troop movement out of Iraq…
Operation Castration Oil?
Operation Bloated Budget?
Operation Diligent Restraint?
Operation Die for a Lie?
Operation Sisyphus Waltz?
or just…
Operation Hopeless Endeavor?
June 24th, 2006 at 5:32 pmSomething tells me this has all the hallmarks of a “Rove” solution to save the decider’s ass! It would take an astronomical amount of “head in the sandness” to really believe that the Iraqi PM would even think about something like this without first clearing it with the bushies.
June 24th, 2006 at 5:37 pmbadmood-
June 24th, 2006 at 5:40 pmhow about MISSION ACCOPLISHED?
Call the GOP back for a vote oh sorry it doesn’t count. Let’s see we invaded Iraq gave them trillion dollars, killed woman/children appointed a puppet President and we steal their oil , what do we get in return a get out and don’t let the door hit you in the butt. Oh yes Bush said they didn’t have to pay us back for the money we spent. Now Americans see what the world saw about Bush stupid is stupid does. Now we the taxpayers will pay for the mistake. Tony Snow wont have our troops deaths to call just numbers anymore. We have to stay the course oh they want us out we might have to fight them to stay for the oil that is.
June 24th, 2006 at 5:49 pm# 6: You just hate that I’m # 1 as usual,and you are,as usual,bringing up the rear.
June 24th, 2006 at 5:53 pmBut hey,look at the bright side,everyone likes a nice ass.LDO (laughing derriere off).
We all know what is happening here. Bushco & Rove have pressued the Iraqi prez and prime minister to ask the US to leave.
They will do so in the unmistaken belief that they are saving King Georges ass. You know of course that these Iraqi officials are paid whores, paid by the US government. Paid millions of dollars to do the bidding of Bushco. Money talks, bullshit walks.
These ex-pats were all formerly in the US living it up on your dime. They were given huge amounts of money, cars, houses, apartments, credit cards, everything they needed to live the grand life style.
About five of the top Iraqi officials were urged to come to the US by Bush as soon as Cheney and he put their heads together in 2000. GOOGLE IT!
June 24th, 2006 at 6:04 pmLeave? Nah, don’t forget the permanent military bases and supersizes embassy. PNAC plan…
June 24th, 2006 at 6:09 pmAt least 2,520 members of the U.S. military have died since the Iraq war started in March 2003, according to an Associated Press count.
READ THIS
Maliki’s Master Plan
A national reconciliation plan for Iraq calls for a timetable for withdrawal of U.S. troops and, controversially, amnesty for insurgents who attacked American and Iraqi soldiers.
By Rod Nordland / Newsweek
June 24, 2006 – A timetable for withdrawal of occupation troops from Iraq. Amnesty for all insurgents who attacked U.S. and Iraqi military targets. Release of all security detainees from U.S. and Iraqi prisons. Compensation for victims of coalition military operations.
Those sound like the demands of some of the insurgents themselves, and in fact they are. But they’re also key clauses of a national reconciliation plan drafted by new Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki, who will unveil it Sunday. The provisions will spark sharp debate in Iraq—but the fiercest opposition is likely to come from Washington, which has opposed any talk of timetables, or of amnesty for insurgents who have attacked American soldiers.
June 24th, 2006 at 6:24 pmYou just hate that I’m # 1 as usual,and you are,as usual,bringing up the rear.
Oh yeah, that’s it. (Rolling eyes) No, really, you aren’t worthy of the energy to hate. I think you’re a silly lttle gnat without a single functioning brain cell who can’t say anything even remotely intelligent or venom-free. That does get hate, it gets pity.
If you get off on posting first in a thread, well, I get why you’d also think someone would lie about being a teacher to impress people. Here’s a bit of reality – people lie about beign doctors or modeling agents… not public high school teachers.
But hey,look at the bright side,everyone likes a nice ass.LDO (laughing derriere off).
Comment by Sybil — June 24, 2006 @ 5:53 pm
Well, you are an ass. Can’t call you nice however.
June 24th, 2006 at 6:28 pmBush will do what he’s been doing for weeks. Just ignore them. Pretend he doesn’t hear the increasing calls by Iraqi officials for the US to set a timetable. It will take mass protests by millions of Iraqis to get the Idiot-in-Chief’s attention, and then he’ll just call them terrorists and carpet bomb them.
June 24th, 2006 at 6:47 pm#13: Also known as Crusader Castles. What happened to them in the end wasn’t pleasant.
June 24th, 2006 at 6:51 pmBush has no intention of leaving Iraq. Ever. Anyone who doesn’t get that should immediately extricate their head from their ass.
June 24th, 2006 at 6:56 pmSybil – MA,
You fired the first shot. About a month ago.
Yes, everyone can see who is the miserable little troll (hint: you).
I’m still waiting for you to show me a link of where someone has paid you a compliment…
June 24th, 2006 at 7:07 pmThe proposal recognizes “the necessity of agreeing on a timetable under conditions that take into account the formation of Iraqi armed forces so as to guarantee Iraq’s security,”
Why does that sound familiar? Oh yes, that’s been our policy all along. As the Iraqi forces stand up, we’ll stand down. The US will claim victory in Iraq when their government tell us they are ready to take over. Sometime in 2007.
June 24th, 2006 at 7:12 pmSugar Magnolia, do you really think Bush-Cheney spent all this blood and treasure just so the Shiite majority could have elections and set up an Islamic state? If that’s what you believe, you’re in for a big surprise.
June 24th, 2006 at 7:16 pmAt least it won’t be a Stalinist regime that attacks it’s neighbors, commits genocide on it’s own people, spends all of it’s money on palaces and weapons, and is our ally in our war on terror.
June 24th, 2006 at 7:25 pmtime to send in another two hundred thousand troops to die for the empire and spend another trillion dollars.
cut and run? no freaking way.
The oil is the sweetest thing on earth, it is what pays the mostest.
oil rustlers, inc. is the way to go.
The Bush twins are partying tonight with Paris Hilton. Nothing else matters.
June 24th, 2006 at 7:31 pmFrom the Newsweek article:
But in Iraq, even a senior military official in the U.S.-led coalition said Friday that the coalition might consider a timetable under certain circumstances. And the official was careful to point out that a distinction needs to be made between terrorists and the resistance.
NOW it’s important to make a distinction between the two, since they’ve gotten all the political mileage they can from calling them “dead-enders.”
At least it won’t be a Stalinist regime that attacks it’s neighbors, commits genocide on it’s own people, spends all of it’s money on palaces and weapons, and is our ally in our war on terror. Comment by sugar magnolia — June 24, 2006 @ 7:25 pm
More domino effect dogma. Since Vietnam fell to the communists, now we are all ruled from Beijing, right?
June 24th, 2006 at 7:39 pm“And the official was careful to point out that a distinction needs to be made between terrorists and the resistance.”
So terrorists who killed Americans are bad, but resistance fighters who kill American troops are acceptable?
Where’d Alice go? It’s tea-time . . .
June 24th, 2006 at 7:47 pmSince Vietnam fell to the communists, now we are all ruled from Beijingur
You clearly do not know your history. After the US cut and run Vietnam alienated China by invading and taking over Cambodia and installing a military presence in Laos. Vietnam then became closer to Moscow. Many thousands were slaughtered. And congress prevented the US from doing anything about it. Progressives want the same thing to happen in Iraq. Allow our enemies to come in and take over. Defeat is the progressive’s mantra.
June 24th, 2006 at 9:11 pmDoes it seem just a little bit funny to anyone else that Newsweeks big splash story on PM Nouri al-Maliki and the leak through the NY Times of Gen. Casey’s secret plan to withdraw troops by Sept this year? The heat is on the Bush whitehouse and they still think American’s a stupid. It’s spin time!
June 24th, 2006 at 10:08 pmDoes it seem just a little bit funny to anyone else that Newsweeks big splash story on PM Nouri al-Maliki and the leak through the NY Times of Gen. Casey’s secret plan to withdraw troops by Sept this year? The heat is on the Bush whitehouse and they still think American’s are stupid. It’s spin time!
June 24th, 2006 at 10:09 pmSugar dear, what makes you think the new Iraqi government (whose authority doesn’t extend beyond their own offices in Baghdad) will be our ally? They are much friendlier with Iran than they ever will be with us.
“Defeat is the progressive’s mantra.”
Oh, that’s nice. You just keep telling yourself that while you play with your George Bush flightsuit doll.
June 24th, 2006 at 10:46 pmLeader of Iraq is just a Bush stooge, so he does what he is told and nothing more > PERIOD.
June 24th, 2006 at 11:15 pmYou clearly do not know your history.
Comment by sugar magnolia — June 24, 2006
I remember how the domino principle worked (or didn’t).
Sarcasm is lost on the unimaginative, I guess. That was what we were told would happen (the domino effect) – or were you too young to remember, and so are getting your knowledge second-hand? They are trumpeting the same nonsense in Iraq, and the gullible are eating it up like creamed corn.
June 24th, 2006 at 11:54 pmDefeat is the progressive’s mantra.
Comment by sugar magnolia — June 24, 2006
And war profiteering is the conservative call to arms.
June 24th, 2006 at 11:57 pmHey Sugar, selling weapons to terrorists (Reagan) and then pardoning the guilty parties (Bush 1), shows how little republicans really value national security. No matter how much you squeak, history will still record that the worst terrorist act in American history happened under Bush, a Republican.
And as far as those weapons to Iran; how many munitions currently being smuggled from Iran into Iraq in the form of IED’s, first started out as the explosive components of TOW missiles traded to Iran in the 80’s?
And if you say that the missiles’ explosives would have been inert by this time, I would point out the same can be said of Bush’s weak-ass WMD assertion.
June 25th, 2006 at 12:15 am# 20 unbelievable;
What ever credibility you thought you had is slowly being chipped away.If you live for the cyber compliments you get–well,that’s truly sad.
June 25th, 2006 at 3:27 amI’ll keep it short so you can go fish for more compliments,Chump.
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#27
June 25th, 2006 at 7:51 amAfter Viet Nam invaded Cambodia “many thousands were slaughtered” Actually, millions were slaughtered by the Khmer Rouge before Viet Nam put an end to the genocide. Don’t go around telling people they don’t know history when you apparently don’t know anything yourself.
I think you’re a silly lttle gnat without a single functioning brain cell who can’t say anything even remotely intelligent or venom-free. That does get hate, it gets pity.
That’s exactly what I think when Coulter Republicans open start spewing from their snake holes.
June 25th, 2006 at 8:13 amWhat ever credibility you thought you had is slowly being chipped away.
Exactly the opposite. Four or five delusional wingnuts not liking me doesn’t count. They don’t like anybody who uses their brain for thinking rather than a doorstop – like you.
However. fourty or fifty progressives thinking you are irrelevent does.
If you live for the cyber compliments you get–well,that’s truly sad.
I’ll keep it short so you can go fish for more compliments,Chump.
,Comment by Sybil — June 25, 2006 @ 3:27 am
Damn you are slow. I don’t live for them. It’s not about me. It’s about you. You are always knocking people who pay me compliments. Clearly they matter to you immensely or you wouldn’t make such a hissy fit over them. Compounded by the fact that no one ever pays you any valid attention, much less compliments shows that they matter far more to you than me.
And, by the way, the people who are leaving these posts are real people – even if you can’t see them…
June 25th, 2006 at 9:36 amArmy wives get phone death threats from Iraq
Wives and family members of soldiers fighting in Iraq have received telephone calls, believed to include death threats, from insurgents, according to military documents seen by The Sunday Telegraph.
The “nuisance” calls have been made with increasing frequency over the past few weeks after insurgents managed to obtain home numbers from soldiers’ mobile telephones.
The growing number of calls has led to an investigation by the Royal Military Police, which has issued a warning to all soldiers in Iraq to take great care when using mobile telephones to call home.
SOURCE
June 25th, 2006 at 9:51 amThe Bushie admin does not want to leave Iraq because of the OIL. It is written in the Iraq constitution that the US will get part of the OIL. Our young men and women died for OIL not to give the Iraqi people freedom.
June 25th, 2006 at 9:56 am[...] Apparently Bush has secretly been planning to do just that all along, while he excoriates those who have even suggested it. The Iraqis have now gone on record demanding it. [...]
June 25th, 2006 at 10:09 am# 38:
For once you’re right,it is about me,and you sure are paying alot of attention.
June 25th, 2006 at 12:28 pmGet your own life,Chump.(LDO)
For once you’re right,it is about me,and you sure are paying alot of attention.
If you call kicking a stump to check for termites attention, well, then you’re much more desperate for it than you realize.
Get your own life,Chump.(LDO)
Comment by Sybil — June 25, 2006 @ 12:28 pm
I already have. Now it’s your turn.
June 25th, 2006 at 3:00 pm# 43;
You remind me of that Cheez-it commercial:
June 25th, 2006 at 3:26 pm”Get your own box.”
I don’t watch commercials.
June 25th, 2006 at 4:49 pmYea,right.
June 26th, 2006 at 2:04 amYou can change the channel when they come on, you know… Sheesh. Don’t your ever use your brain for anything except to keep your skull cushioned?
Commercials are the Big Industry’s way of selling you their garbage – and psycologically making you feel inferior without their crap. It’s their propaganda (which is why the repeat it over and over as your hero King Geroge explained must be done), so that you will buy their stuff. 99% of it is crap you don’t need. So I boycott commercials. Not hard to do when you only watch 2-3 hours of television per week. Just push the buttons on the remote….
June 26th, 2006 at 8:03 am#47- Good morning, Ms.Unbelievable! May I “cyber-compliment” you on your always insightful comments? Clearly, SOMEONE is unable to cope with the extreme envy, so openly displayed, for all to see. Amazing what motivates some people, and how ashamed they can be of it. But it explains alot, self-hatred does nasty things to a person, as we see. I am proud to be a member of your ‘fan club’!
June 26th, 2006 at 8:32 am# 48:
I think you mean her cult of hateful,mind-less idiots.
June 26th, 2006 at 11:55 amCyra,
As Zoo would say *Blush* :)
Thanks. I know what yuou mean about the actions of those who hate themselves. This particular version of the Denny-E.Coli-MA series really hates itself. Practically wets itself when it talks about violence and smite. So sad.
By any chance, do any of your cats open cabinet doors? My female cat likes to open them, but doesn’t go inside. Thought it was strange.
June 26th, 2006 at 12:01 pmI think you mean her cult of hateful,mind-less idiots.
Comment by Sybil — June 26, 2006 @ 11:55 am
You mean you and all your multiple personalities? We know you’re hateful already. Your posts prove it.
June 26th, 2006 at 12:05 pmShow,then,one comment of mine about ‘violence and smite.’
June 26th, 2006 at 1:48 pmShow just one,and then I’ll believe your malarky.
(you choose violent words):
That vicious resident attack dog tries to maul everyone who doesn’t bow down to her:
Comment by Sybil — June 22, 2006 @ 12:54 pm
M.A.ignores you,except when she slaps you across your deserving grill Comment by Sybil — June 25, 2006 @ 3:05 am
http://thinkprogress.org/2006/06/21/senate-iraq-debate/
(yelling AT someone who hadn’t said a word to you is verbal violence):
LET ME TELL YOU ,YOU YOU UNBELIEVABLE SCAG.
I HAVE NEVER MADE AN ATTACK AGAINST GAY PEOPLE ON THIS WEB-SITE.
UNBELIEVABLE–GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT YOU BUSY-BODY SPINSTER HAG!!
Comment by Denny — June 15, 2006 @ 2:48 pm
http://thinkprogress.org/2006/06/15/constitutional-convention-gay-marriage/#comments
(And smite doesn’t get defined any better than this):
Denny is a third person,he told you that a while back.
Now it seems that Denny attacked you first,but remember,Denny was created for you after you attacked another ‘person’without provocation
Comment by Denny — June 8, 2006 @ 12:38 pm
http://thinkprogress.org/2006/06/06/cei-antichrist/
(nasty, vile and will cause violent vomitting):
Oh yea,and both of you can kiss my beautiful ass.
Comment by Sybil — June 17, 2006 @ 4:12 am
http://thinkprogress.org/2006/06/15/thinkfast-am-june-15-2006/#comments
June 26th, 2006 at 2:23 pm# 153:
Thanks for doing your home-work:but who is this Denny?
June 26th, 2006 at 4:01 pm:
I think you’re a silly lttle gnat without a single functioning brain cell who can’t say anything even remotely intelligent or venom-free.
June 26th, 2006 at 4:37 pm=================================
“Get out now.”…full of venom?
A fine example of venom:your post.
Denny = Sybil = E. Coli = GURU = other personalities.
Don’t start lying about it as well. You write the same, have the same bad grammar, and recall the same events. It’s you. You’re too obvious.
June 26th, 2006 at 5:05 pm“Get out now.â€â€¦full of venom?
Comment by Steve53 — June 26, 2006 @ 4:37 pm
That one was lacking in intelligence. The venom is weeks and weeks of nasty comments that started unprovoked. Harder to see when you don’t know the history. It’s not contained to this single thread.
June 26th, 2006 at 5:14 pm# 55,Steve53 :
Thank you for seeing the truth and the ‘venom’that comes from unbelievables fangs.
June 27th, 2006 at 2:31 amI could show you worse cases of her hatred,anger,lying,bitterness and arrogance;but neither you or I have time for that much idiocy and immaturity.
She is a school-yard bully and a self-appointed attack dog at this site,and a few here bow down before her ;I w’ont,so she starts with the name calling.Watch what I say.
Puny,gnawing little humans can live in paradise,or destroy the planet.
Comment by Steve53 — June 26, 2006 @ 1:29 pm
You are also Steve… This si your writing style and your non-existent grammar style. So, there is no one else. Just you. And the reason you don’t validate your claims is because you have no proof. You’re just an angry little toad who likes to insult those you envy to feel better about yourself.
And you’re not fooling anyone with your deception, Steve. or Denny, or Sybil, or E. Coli, or MA…
June 27th, 2006 at 1:52 pm# 59:
Keep snootin’,Dog,you’ll figure out that Steve53 is not me;just like all the other names you call me.
June 27th, 2006 at 2:32 pmI’m sure you know that Steve53 is not me,you just hate being invalidated.
Mam,you are a shrew.
One other thing;once I posted on the ”puny” board,I did not return until just now to find that Steve53 comment.
June 27th, 2006 at 2:46 pmNow you tell me ;Do you not think that I would have called you out on how you spelled ”distionary”?Not because of the typo,but the irony of your context.
You are all those multiple personalitities who write the same, attach to the same issues, spell the same and use the same grammar. Stop lying. It just makes you look even more desperate that you already are.
June 27th, 2006 at 6:17 pmWell then,you just keep your eyes open.
June 28th, 2006 at 2:14 amThe next time I happen to see Steve53 commenting,I’ll give him a shout out,and if he responds,we’ll see what he says.
Next you’re going to tell me that I was Rob too.
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