The administration’s secret timetable.
By on Jun 24th, 2006 at 8:41 pm
The administration’s secret timetable.
“The top American commander in Iraq has drafted a plan that projects sharp reductions in the United States military presence there by the end of 2007, with the first cuts coming this September, American officials say…after criticizing Democratic lawmakers for trying to legislate a timeline for withdrawing troops, skeptics say, the Bush administration seems to have its own private schedule…”
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Oh you mean they intend to “CUT AND RUN”
June 24th, 2006 at 8:48 pmor “leave and live”
June 24th, 2006 at 8:48 pmMaybe it will be in October? No one likes to set anything in stone. Nice to leave a little flexibility, eh?
June 24th, 2006 at 9:13 pmAccording to a classified briefing at the Pentagon this week by the commander, Gen. George W. Casey Jr., the number of American combat brigades in Iraq is projected to decrease to 5 or 6 from the current level of 14 by December 2007.
June 24th, 2006 at 9:28 pmWTF??????? why does the friggin NY times keep insisting on publishing classified damn information to help our enemies?? how do they keep getting away with aiding and abetting the enemies of the Unitted States???????? I mean the last time i looked the NY times building was in NY City. NY City is still in the Unoted States isn’t it ?? Whose side exactly is the NT Times on?? Can’t they like look out their windows and like se where the Twin Towers use to be?? have they gone that far over to the dark side that they are going to let the enemy insurgents and terrorists in Iraq the goddam battle and withdrawl plans??
what the hell is going on in NYcity with the times?? why don’t they just break into the pentagon and just give our enemies all the damn classified secrets to them and get it over with?? What’s next ? the NY times is going to let Iran and North Korea what our plans our?? God I hate the NY times … they are almost as traitorous as some of the moonbats who post here.
Regardless of what anyone says, the U.S. has no intention whatsoever of leaving Iraq. They will, however, be forced out and a lot sooner than most people think. The insurgency is in such complete control that the puppets and puppeteers don’t dare leave the Green Zone. By the way, moonbat patrol, I’m a New Yorker and nothing makes me sicker than a piece of human garbage like yourself using our tragedy to promote your fascist agenda.
June 24th, 2006 at 9:39 pmI knew this was coming. Remember the Bush whitehouse is still in campaign mode.
The Kerry/Feigngold amendment this last week was meant to seperate the repubs from the dems. The dems won by forcing the issue and let the votes fall where they may. Only 9 dems voted for the amendment showing the public, who wants to get out of Iraq, where their senators stood.
Of course the administration is falling back to plan B. They have to show the intention of planning this all along. The whitehouse is in trouble and they know it.
June 24th, 2006 at 9:50 pmAs with so many stories, the devil is in the details. “…A plan that projects sharp reductions in the United States military presence there [Iraq] by the end of 2007, with the first cuts coming this September.” This is supposed to be cause for celebration? This report is riddled with ambiguity. “First cuts coming in Sept.” What does that mean? 10,000 troops returning to this country? Could it mean 5000? Perhaps 500? Maybe 50? “Sharp reductions … by the end of of 2007.” There are approximately 135,000 American troops in Iraq at the present time. Are they saying they would be “sharply reduced” to 100,000? I strongly suspect that if Bush and Cheney’s daughter’s were somehow fighting in Iraq, that this administration would be laboring a hell of a lot faster than they are now to get ALL of those troops returned to this country as soon as possible, if not now.
June 24th, 2006 at 10:01 pmSo what the article is saying is: Just before the midterm elections, maybe late August the republicans are going to introduce a plan to get our troops home. W will of course endorse this, saying that the Iraqi’s are standing up. And see this proves we are winning. All of the Republicans who are shouting “stay the course” can say.. see we were right.. and get their cake and eat it too. Then they can start calling the Democrats more names and shifting the blame to them..
June 24th, 2006 at 10:02 pmmeanwhile….
a bomb is ready to go off.. look for an October suprise.. bush needs “something catastrophic” to “save” his numbers.. betcha it will link to Iran. I anticipate, a late november attack.. i am sorry.. brining the perpetrators of this horrible deed to justice.. Lets just hope he gets it right, and doesn’t accidentally invade Armenia, i mean they are so close together on the map!
they are almost as traitorous as some of the moonbats who post here.
Comment by moonbat patrol — June 24, 2006 @ 9:28 pm
You mean you?
Your named moonbat, so I guess that means you?
You’re a traitor? Really?
I knew it!
June 24th, 2006 at 10:05 pmFrom my post in the Iraqi timetable thread:
Something tells me the Repubs are going to take them up on this, but hold out until after the midterms. Let’s hope they’re not still in control of both the House and Senate at that point. Leave it to them to seriously screw this up.
Let’s hope the Dems figure out the bait and switch and get their act together.
June 24th, 2006 at 10:05 pmSherry G – 12 dems and 1 ind voted for the Kerry-Feingold proposal to redeploy American combat troops out of Iraq by July 1, 2007, 13 total:
June 24th, 2006 at 10:08 pmSen. Daniel Akaka (D-HI)
Sen. Barbara Boxer (D-CA), co-sponsor
Sen. Richard Durbin (D-IL)
Sen. Tom Harkin (D-IA)
Sen. Daniel Inouye (D-HI)
Sen. James Jeffords (I-VT)
Sen. Edward Kennedy (D-MA)
Sen. Frank Lautenberg (D-NJ)
Sen. Patrick Leahy (D-VT), co-sponsor
Sen. Robert Menendez (D-NJ)
Sen. Ron Wyden (D-OR)
Progressives need to start predicting what dirty tricks the neoconservatives might pull in the run-up to the November election. Doing so takes away some of their ability to actually use them.
June 24th, 2006 at 10:13 pmThen those are the only democrats who get to keep their seats.
Throw the rest of the bums out.
June 24th, 2006 at 10:15 pmkaty, even though your count included them, it might be nice to add Kerry and Feingold to the list.
FLAVIUS `WORFEUS, there was another amendment and to be fair some Senators may have favored that one. It started removing our troops this December but didn’t give a final date. Which although irritating as hell, may be better militarily speaking.
Of course my stupid, evil, I can’t stand him, Democratic Senator voted against that one as well so he has no excuse.
June 24th, 2006 at 10:22 pmthat list was from an email from kerry after that vote…
here is the last part of his message:
Please call, write, or email these Senators and acknowledge their leadership on Iraq.
Let me be absolutely clear. Russ Feingold and I would have forced this vote even if the outcome were going to be 98 to 2. Ending the Bush administration’s disastrous approach to this war isn’t about counting votes. It isn’t about legislative strategy or electoral calculation. It’s about applying constant pressure to change a broken course.
It’s about utterly rejecting the desperate tactics of cowardly political operatives like Karl Rove who, as John Murtha pointed out, have no qualms about telling our soldiers to “stay the course” from the comfort of their air-conditioned offices at the White House.
It’s about doing what’s right.
Karl Rove may worry about losing votes. It’s our job to worry about young Americans losing their lives. It’s our job to provide a new vision that offers real security for America while giving the Iraqis their best chance for a stable Iraq.
I will keep doing what’s right on Iraq, and I won’t stop until our troops are home and the future of Iraq is in the hands of the Iraqi people.
June 24th, 2006 at 10:40 pmWell I say if they can’t get together on a bill then fire all the bums.
Thats the problem with us libs. Independent thinking impacts the team mentality.
We need to understand that at the end of the day, without cohesion, we got no game.
June 24th, 2006 at 11:05 pmWell, sorry to say the democrats had a golden opportunity to lead the other day? If they could not see the wisdom of kerry’s proposal then they could have taken the more relaxed Levin one, but alas? The chnace has been squandered. this nation is sure to rupture …
June 24th, 2006 at 11:07 pmI am so sick of their freaking crap. Could we possibly have a bigger gang of f@ckups running our country right now?
June 24th, 2006 at 11:08 pmThe Bush Regime troop reductions for Iraq are just for show, and nothing to even talk about, since the end of 2007 is 18 months from now! Anything could happen between now and end of 2007!
June 24th, 2006 at 11:10 pmWell, now all the insurgents have to do is wait us out. The Bush administration is not only going to cut and run,but also give amnesty to the very people who have killed and maimed our troops. This to me sounds much weaker on terror than any plan offered up by the Dems.
June 24th, 2006 at 11:15 pmI believe the mantra of repugs being stronger on terror then dems will be defeated with this revelation and add one more failure to the ever growing list from these wimps.
If in reality the Bush Regime did remove some troops by end of 2007, that still would mean about another 1,500+ killed, and thousands more maimed too! About 500 soldiers are killed every 6 months in Iraq presently!
June 24th, 2006 at 11:19 pm…also give amnesty to the very people who have killed and maimed our troops…
Comment by Vance — June 24, 2006 @ 11:15 pm
THAT notion is thoroughly confusing… did you all hear stevens’ remarks on the floor?:
“well if that’s amnesty then i’m for it!” sheesh…
and jay, i agree about the show… they aren’t building an “embassy”/base the area size of Vatican City to give it away…it’s permanent occupation for sure…
time for SNL… i’m gone…
June 24th, 2006 at 11:26 pmGod I hate the NY times … they are almost as traitorous as some of the moonbats who post here.
nice try seixon
June 25th, 2006 at 12:22 amWTF??????? why does the friggin NY times keep insisting on publishing classified damn information to help our enemies??
– moon bat patrol
ask yourself whom gave it to them, ask yourself why a bush insider would give them, a media outlet this information.
Actually this is not a big secret at all., house transcripts with the banking commission reveal quite a bit, all on the public record, the 9/11 report had some terrorist banking information in it, it was however deleted from the public release of the 9/11 report. If you are trying to say this was some great technological secret, thats NEW, then you are wrong..very wrong.
June 25th, 2006 at 12:30 amPlease stop the paranoid rants moon bat patrol.
Hey Right.
I think I may have hit you with some friendly fire earlier by accident.
It was the name. It threw me and I guess its just a reflex or something.
Anyway sorry.
June 25th, 2006 at 1:49 amThe insurgency is in such complete control that the puppets and puppeteers don’t dare leave the Green Zone.
The worst is how this has been reduced to such a dreadful no win situation. Staying is a disaster, leaving is a disaster. The damage to what few scraps of international law we had is incalculable. The wave of terrorism this is likely to unleash, may last decades, and will be resolved in the end by accomodation, not a military solution. This is obvious to anyone who has not been in a persistent vegative state for the last 30 years.
I like to come here and remind myself that not all americans are nascent fascists.
June 25th, 2006 at 3:45 amSmoke and mirrors. The maladministration of GFH Bush is LYING, again.
They don’t know who they are, if they don’t lie.
Those airbases are permanent, and utterly illegal.
They need to keep their troop-strength, such as it is, up, and will.
Don’t buy the hype. This is just to provide yet another delusion to the American people, via the convenient NO FOLLOWTHROUGH corporate media cheerleading.
June 25th, 2006 at 6:02 amThis is because the Bush administration cares more about creating slogans than accomplishing anything useful. The Bush administration has no choice but to honor the timetable put forth by the Iraqi government. But the real question is whether the redeployment by the Cheney-Rumsfelf axis of evil is to continue the pursuit of Armeggedon by attacking Iran. I have my money that Darth Cheney intends to pursue another war.
June 25th, 2006 at 6:18 am“(T)he Bush brand of competitive sourcing, with its get-rich-quick schemes and do-little jobs for administration pals, spread like a cancer throughout the executive branch. It explains why tens of thousands of displaced victims of Katrina are still living in trailer shantytowns all these months later. It explains why New York City and Washington just lost 40 percent of their counterterrorism funds. It helps explain why American troops are more likely to be slaughtered than greeted with flowers more than three years after the American invasion of Iraq.†Frank Rich.
June 25th, 2006 at 6:47 amI think the Times, both of them, are trying to push the administration’s hand regarding prosecutions for journalists and intel leakers. Sure the program,s have been compromised, which in itself is as debatable as V. Plame’s outing, but aren’t the Congress and the White House becoming impotent? All the fist pounding and accusations are just bluster if there are no prosecutions.I think the Adminisrtations obfuscatory, weasel like manner on so may issues regarding truthful information is being used on them. Now, where is Porter Goss? Is Dana Priest under indictment, or James Risen? I really believe this info about the SWIFT program is just one of many coming down the pike to call the Administration’s hypocritical bluster on treasonous accusations.
June 25th, 2006 at 7:45 amSorry the last post was for the Cheney thread.
June 25th, 2006 at 7:52 amYes, as Bush was busy tarring the Democrats for “cut and run,” he was also devising the same. In addition to working with the Iraqis to devise a withdrawal plan. But if you look closely at the drawdown plan, I believe you’ll see it’s pure spin timed to appease Americans by November. Out of 130,000 troops in Iraq, the commander’s plan calls for withdrawing 28,000 by the end of 2007. Not exactly a sharp reduction!
June 25th, 2006 at 8:33 amHey Moonbat, does this make Donnie a traitor too????
June 25th, 2006 at 9:09 amI agree with the comment posted by Leslie above. The current plan calls for a reduction of only about 28,000 troops from the total, which is barely above 20%. That’s not as much of a reduction as I’d like to see.
June 25th, 2006 at 9:18 amThe Bush Regime will never end the Iraq occupation as long as they remain in power, so this is another reason to impeach Dubya and Dicky ASAP! The sooner they are gone, then the sooner all the troops can come home from Iraq!
June 25th, 2006 at 9:52 amArmy wives get phone death threats from Iraq
Wives and family members of soldiers fighting in Iraq have received telephone calls, believed to include death threats, from insurgents, according to military documents seen by The Sunday Telegraph.
The “nuisance” calls have been made with increasing frequency over the past few weeks after insurgents managed to obtain home numbers from soldiers’ mobile telephones.
The growing number of calls has led to an investigation by the Royal Military Police, which has issued a warning to all soldiers in Iraq to take great care when using mobile telephones to call home.
SOURCE
June 25th, 2006 at 9:52 amWhatever makes sense before the November elections is the “right” thing to do, I suppose.
June 25th, 2006 at 10:08 am[...] Apparently Bush has secretly been planning to do just that all along, while he excoriates those who have even suggested it. The Iraqis have now gone on record demanding it. [...]
June 25th, 2006 at 10:08 amJust because they start writing up a plan, doesn’t mean they will follow the plan. This is a ploy to convince the american public the repulicans are planning to get out of Iraq. I would be suprised if they actually pulled any troops.
June 25th, 2006 at 10:36 amHere’s a reasoned analysis as to why Iraq, Katrina and our government = FUBAR
http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/features/2006/0607.wolfe.html
Even smart Republicans just have no answer to this, and the best they can do is try to explain away their big W. or act as apologists.
June 25th, 2006 at 10:44 amsandman, beyond FUBAR, this shit is quickly becoming SNAFU.
June 25th, 2006 at 12:29 pmWAKE UP FOLKS!
General Casey came back to consult with the prez and the War Department just as the Dems were bringing up two resolutions on withdrawal.
He was told by Rover boy to announce, ahead of those votes, his egghead plan, which is the same as the dems plan. And – the ignorant neo-cons posting on this site under the pay of Rove know it, but are stupid.
Casey was told, I mean ordered, to announce a plan for withrawal PRIOR TO THE ELECTION. Doubt that, you are a fool!
The Bush Regime is playing politics with the lives of thousands of service people, and the neo-cons think it is fine what he is doing, but disgraceful what the dems are doing. Does it make sense? Only if you are a moonbat patrolist. That individual is so far out in right field he dont know where home plate is.
June 25th, 2006 at 12:47 pmGeuss the spin will have to be “Democrats influence Republican Iraq withdrawal timelines”. Or “Bush finally acts upon the advice of Democrats by annoucing early troop withdrawal.”
June 25th, 2006 at 2:26 pmActually, this will help the Democrats, such as Jack Murtha, in the fall by showing support to their demands for troop withdrawal. It’s all in the presentation.
There will still be issues with health care, Medicare Part D, education, and the HUGE DEFICIT. It would be great if Ross Perot appeared with those charts. A picture is worth a thousand words.
June 25th, 2006 at 2:29 pmNow’s the time for every Democrat to accuse the republicans of “cutting and running” and “being there for the first shot but having no stomach for the long war”…
June 25th, 2006 at 2:30 pmHey bones – like your name. Guess it could mean the bones of the fallen because of an illegal invasion into a sovereign nation.
You are correct. It’s time for the Dems to take the Repubs words and turn these words against the Repubs.
I like Senator Kerry’s statement regarding traitor Rove’s concern about votes in November and Democrats’ concern about saving American lives.
June 25th, 2006 at 2:54 pmThere are those who oppose the present administration, with Body and Soul…
But the idiots who publish the items at this web-site are such tools of misinformation, as to serve so eagerly (and seemingly with such ignorance) the administration’s talking points.
And so you’re going to advance their sudden talking-point (suddenly after the Senate’s surprisingly strong 39 member support for redeployment)…
Their bullshit about a “secret redeployment plan”?
You here are such idiots, you’re only retarding the movement; you’re such easy dupes and stupes for administration talking points…
Just who is it so stupid as to give money to such liberal morons who are played so easily by the fiddle of an Evil Administration?
June 25th, 2006 at 7:06 pmNot only should the Dems lean on the abundant corruption and incompetence of the GOP, they should take on Karl Rove’s brand of underhanded campaigning, and his use of these ‘flip-flopper’ and ‘cut and run’ themes to avoid or confuse serious debate. Karl has made himself ‘fair game’ by personally attacking Dems; it’s time to make Rove’s dirty politics a national campaign issue. If the Dems need some help with research, they can start with ‘Bush’s Brain’ (the book and film) and move on from there; he’s got a record as long as your right arm.
June 25th, 2006 at 7:53 pmWhy does the Bush administration hate America since they’re apparently ready to cut and run?
June 25th, 2006 at 9:19 pm