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	<title>Comments on: VIDEO: Feingold Argues Emergence of Al Qaeda Leader Shows &#8216;Insanity&#8217; Of Misplaced Priorities</title>
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		<title>By: Political News &#187; Feingold Argues Ã¢ï¿½ï¿½InsanityÃ¢ï¿½ï¿½ Of Misplaced Priorities</title>
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		<dc:creator>Political News &#187; Feingold Argues Ã¢ï¿½ï¿½InsanityÃ¢ï¿½ï¿½ Of Misplaced Priorities</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Aug 2006 10:37:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] On NBC Ã¢ï¿½ï¿½s Meet the Press, Sen. Russ Feingold (D-WI) argued that the broader al Qaeda network is gaining strength as a result of the Iraq war.read more&#160;&#124;&#160;digg story  Digg this [...]</description>
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		<title>By: moonbat patrol</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/06/25/feingold-somalia/comment-page-5/#comment-648033</link>
		<dc:creator>moonbat patrol</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jun 2006 14:12:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#247 wow dorfeus maximus you really must have given you thesaurus a workout ther with all them big woeds you used! Do you even know what any of them mean little fella?? Or did you ask a grownup to write that for you because some big bad anti- liberal was making you look more ignorant than you are??
    YOU are an asset to my argument. moonbats like you should keep posting and let the world know how ridiculous they are.. nice try colostomy bag!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#247 wow dorfeus maximus you really must have given you thesaurus a workout ther with all them big woeds you used! Do you even know what any of them mean little fella?? Or did you ask a grownup to write that for you because some big bad anti- liberal was making you look more ignorant than you are??<br />
    YOU are an asset to my argument. moonbats like you should keep posting and let the world know how ridiculous they are.. nice try colostomy bag!<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=648033', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Ernest</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/06/25/feingold-somalia/comment-page-5/#comment-645131</link>
		<dc:creator>Ernest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jun 2006 23:22:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had never seen an in-depth interview with Feingold before, and I came away very impressed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had never seen an in-depth interview with Feingold before, and I came away very impressed.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=645131', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: CLUBBER  WORFEUS</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/06/25/feingold-somalia/comment-page-5/#comment-644046</link>
		<dc:creator>CLUBBER  WORFEUS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jun 2006 17:32:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;give it up maxi pad you are way out of your leauge &lt;/em&gt;

Comment by Walt Whitman â€” June 27, 2006 @ 9:12 am 

Perhaps I am way out of my &quot;Leauge&quot; as you say, whatever that is supposed to mean.

But you&#039;re definately way out of your &quot;league&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>give it up maxi pad you are way out of your leauge </em></p>
<p>Comment by Walt Whitman â€” June 27, 2006 @ 9:12 am </p>
<p>Perhaps I am way out of my &#8220;Leauge&#8221; as you say, whatever that is supposed to mean.</p>
<p>But you&#8217;re definately way out of your &#8220;league&#8221;.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=644046', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: CLUBBER  WORFEUS</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/06/25/feingold-somalia/comment-page-5/#comment-644021</link>
		<dc:creator>CLUBBER  WORFEUS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jun 2006 17:24:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;who cares what left wingnut feingold says?? Maybe some turd ferret like dorfeus maximus does but he is like all liberals, nobody listens to them anymore outside of their kook fringe base.. like stayfreeus- maxipaddus here the star trek nerd who lives in mommies badement attacking those evil conservatives.

give it up maxi pad you are way out of your leauge and nothing you can say or do matters or will get me to stop voicing reason on this moonbat monolog you have going..you have not the intelligence of a clam . &lt;/em&gt;

Comment by moonrat bastard â€” June 27, 2006 @ 9:12 am 

Just when I thought you couldn&#039;t be any less articulate, any less erudite, your undereducated brain proves me wrong again.

Well done Hemmingway. 

You&#039;re a tribute to your cause.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>who cares what left wingnut feingold says?? Maybe some turd ferret like dorfeus maximus does but he is like all liberals, nobody listens to them anymore outside of their kook fringe base.. like stayfreeus- maxipaddus here the star trek nerd who lives in mommies badement attacking those evil conservatives.</p>
<p>give it up maxi pad you are way out of your leauge and nothing you can say or do matters or will get me to stop voicing reason on this moonbat monolog you have going..you have not the intelligence of a clam . </em></p>
<p>Comment by moonrat bastard â€” June 27, 2006 @ 9:12 am </p>
<p>Just when I thought you couldn&#8217;t be any less articulate, any less erudite, your undereducated brain proves me wrong again.</p>
<p>Well done Hemmingway. </p>
<p>You&#8217;re a tribute to your cause.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=644021', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: moonbat patrol</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/06/25/feingold-somalia/comment-page-5/#comment-644006</link>
		<dc:creator>moonbat patrol</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jun 2006 17:18:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>eblair funny you moonbats can dish it out but you sure can&#039;t take it ya hypocrite bastards! the worfeus sisters dish out some garbage but they don&#039;t get called to the mat because they are (ahem) start flowery language here: progressives. you hypocrite loser liberal scum you are all the same, brain dead hypocrite juvenile , sex obssesed dirtbags. 
  go tell somebody who cares eblair, you are just another moonbat turd on the road to proving your own stupidity .. how very progressive of you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>eblair funny you moonbats can dish it out but you sure can&#8217;t take it ya hypocrite bastards! the worfeus sisters dish out some garbage but they don&#8217;t get called to the mat because they are (ahem) start flowery language here: progressives. you hypocrite loser liberal scum you are all the same, brain dead hypocrite juvenile , sex obssesed dirtbags.<br />
  go tell somebody who cares eblair, you are just another moonbat turd on the road to proving your own stupidity .. how very progressive of you.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=644006', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: eblair</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/06/25/feingold-somalia/comment-page-5/#comment-643725</link>
		<dc:creator>eblair</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jun 2006 14:54:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>244 &quot;turd ferret&quot;...&quot;stayfreeus-maxipaddus&quot;...&quot;star trek nerd&quot;...&quot;moonbat monolog &quot;...this is what &quot;voicing reason&quot; looks like?  looks more like the rantings of a character on South Park or a hyped up 10 year old on the playground

or this earlier moonbat gem: &quot;hey maybe you can find a black,jewish, transexual,child molester fag who who has had a few abortions to run on the â€œprogressiveâ€ party ticket.
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha&quot;

that is voicing reason?  in what universe?  

shame on me though, for taking you the least bit seriously</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>244 &#8220;turd ferret&#8221;&#8230;&#8221;stayfreeus-maxipaddus&#8221;&#8230;&#8221;star trek nerd&#8221;&#8230;&#8221;moonbat monolog &#8220;&#8230;this is what &#8220;voicing reason&#8221; looks like?  looks more like the rantings of a character on South Park or a hyped up 10 year old on the playground</p>
<p>or this earlier moonbat gem: &#8220;hey maybe you can find a black,jewish, transexual,child molester fag who who has had a few abortions to run on the â€œprogressiveâ€ party ticket.<br />
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha&#8221;</p>
<p>that is voicing reason?  in what universe?  </p>
<p>shame on me though, for taking you the least bit seriously<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=643725', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: moonbat patrol</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/06/25/feingold-somalia/comment-page-5/#comment-643550</link>
		<dc:creator>moonbat patrol</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jun 2006 13:12:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>who cares what left wingnut feingold says?? Maybe some turd ferret like dorfeus maximus does but he is like all liberals, nobody listens to them anymore outside of their kook fringe base.. like stayfreeus- maxipaddus here the star trek nerd who lives in mommies badement attacking those evil conservatives.
 give it  up maxi pad you are way out of your leauge and nothing you can say or do matters or will get me to stop voicing reason on this moonbat monolog you have going..you have not the intelligence of a clam .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>who cares what left wingnut feingold says?? Maybe some turd ferret like dorfeus maximus does but he is like all liberals, nobody listens to them anymore outside of their kook fringe base.. like stayfreeus- maxipaddus here the star trek nerd who lives in mommies badement attacking those evil conservatives.<br />
 give it  up maxi pad you are way out of your leauge and nothing you can say or do matters or will get me to stop voicing reason on this moonbat monolog you have going..you have not the intelligence of a clam .<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=643550', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: CLUBBER  WORFEUS</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/06/25/feingold-somalia/comment-page-5/#comment-643134</link>
		<dc:creator>CLUBBER  WORFEUS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jun 2006 03:43:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with Feingold on this topic, 150 percent. He is right here. Of course the CIA has been telling us this now for 2 years.

Of course our invading Muslim holy land would be the best recruiting tool a Muslim religious extremist group could hope for.

What did we think they&#039;d do, toss flowers?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Feingold on this topic, 150 percent. He is right here. Of course the CIA has been telling us this now for 2 years.</p>
<p>Of course our invading Muslim holy land would be the best recruiting tool a Muslim religious extremist group could hope for.</p>
<p>What did we think they&#8217;d do, toss flowers?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=643134', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Global Geopolitics News &#187; Terrorism and Insurgency - Somalia: Islamic leader denies being on the US wanted terrorist</title>
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		<dc:creator>Global Geopolitics News &#187; Terrorism and Insurgency - Somalia: Islamic leader denies being on the US wanted terrorist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jun 2006 22:40:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] VIDEO: Feingold Argues Emergence of Al Qaeda Leader Shows  Think Progress, DC - Jun 25, 2006 This morning on NBC s Meet the Press, Sen. Russ Feingold (D-WI) argued that the broader al Qaeda network is gaining strength as a result of the Iraq war. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] VIDEO: Feingold Argues Emergence of Al Qaeda Leader Shows  Think Progress, DC &#8211; Jun 25, 2006 This morning on NBC s Meet the Press, Sen. Russ Feingold (D-WI) argued that the broader al Qaeda network is gaining strength as a result of the Iraq war. [...]<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=642499', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: eblair</title>
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		<dc:creator>eblair</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jun 2006 22:13:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Goat--more assumptions, huh?  who said anything about limiting executive&#039;s pay?!  (where the heck did you get that one from?! I&#039;ve actually never heard anyone, anywhere propose that).  who said anything about the state running health care (though if you mean Medicare and Medicaid those are very popular programs with bipartisan support and hardly Communist conspiracies to end life as we know it)?  who said anything about depending on the state for retirement (though if you mean Social Security, that&#039;s a very popular program with broad bipartisan support and hardly a radical Commie idea)

yes, I&#039;m sure I&#039;m not into Communism, Senator McCarthy.  Thanks for asking though.  And thanks for making baseless assumptions plucked from thin air.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Goat&#8211;more assumptions, huh?  who said anything about limiting executive&#8217;s pay?!  (where the heck did you get that one from?! I&#8217;ve actually never heard anyone, anywhere propose that).  who said anything about the state running health care (though if you mean Medicare and Medicaid those are very popular programs with bipartisan support and hardly Communist conspiracies to end life as we know it)?  who said anything about depending on the state for retirement (though if you mean Social Security, that&#8217;s a very popular program with broad bipartisan support and hardly a radical Commie idea)</p>
<p>yes, I&#8217;m sure I&#8217;m not into Communism, Senator McCarthy.  Thanks for asking though.  And thanks for making baseless assumptions plucked from thin air.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=642413', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Goat</title>
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		<dc:creator>Goat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jun 2006 20:51:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re the same crew who wants to limit executive&#039;s pay.  You&#039;re the same crew that wants state run health care.  Your the same crew that want us to depend on the state for retirement.  You sure your not into Communism?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re the same crew who wants to limit executive&#8217;s pay.  You&#8217;re the same crew that wants state run health care.  Your the same crew that want us to depend on the state for retirement.  You sure your not into Communism?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=642221', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: mighty aphrodite</title>
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		<dc:creator>mighty aphrodite</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jun 2006 19:42:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Parrot - YOU don&#039;t think there&#039;s enough govenment regulation???   Should there be more???  Socialism is a dirty word to the competitive as well as the co-oparative.  (But employees who KNOW exactly how many hours of vaca pay they have at all times, who rely on others to negotiate pay raises or health care benefits SEEM to love the  mediocre achievements of Socialism.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Parrot &#8211; YOU don&#8217;t think there&#8217;s enough govenment regulation???   Should there be more???  Socialism is a dirty word to the competitive as well as the co-oparative.  (But employees who KNOW exactly how many hours of vaca pay they have at all times, who rely on others to negotiate pay raises or health care benefits SEEM to love the  mediocre achievements of Socialism.)<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=642053', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: CLUBBER  WORFEUS</title>
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		<dc:creator>CLUBBER  WORFEUS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jun 2006 18:42:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey whats a pingback? 

Is that TP telling us to get back on topic?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey whats a pingback? </p>
<p>Is that TP telling us to get back on topic?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=641872', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: eblair</title>
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		<dc:creator>eblair</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jun 2006 18:35:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>sorry for doublepost</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sorry for doublepost<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=641846', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: eblair</title>
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		<dc:creator>eblair</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jun 2006 18:34:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting points Parrotlover--I definitely get annoyed by those who try to throw slogans around--socialist, communist, etc.  This is pretty brainless.  The question of how much regulation is an important one.  I don&#039;t trust companies--or anyone--to operate in a wholly unfettered manner.  That&#039;s why we have laws after all.  Nobody really wants &quot;the law of the jungle&quot;--especially not corporations which need to know the law, courts and governments will enforce their contracts, bail them out when they are in distress, provide roads and other infrastructure, provide schools to train future employees, provide trade representatives and other diplomats to hammer out deals with other countries allowing for trade, provide subsidies and other incentives for their businesses.

The &quot;free market&quot; is a misnomer.  Our current economy is of course regulated--by courts, by international agreements on tariffs, by Federal Reserve policymakers, by state and federal legislators who pass laws on the minimum wage, on the right to unionize (or not, in &quot;right to work&quot; states), on health and safety standards, on discrimination, on copyright and patent protection, on spending programs allotting research and development dollars.   The question isn&#039;t whether to regulate, it&#039;s when and how to regulate, and whether to acknowledge the reality that businesses don&#039;t succeed on their own.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting points Parrotlover&#8211;I definitely get annoyed by those who try to throw slogans around&#8211;socialist, communist, etc.  This is pretty brainless.  The question of how much regulation is an important one.  I don&#8217;t trust companies&#8211;or anyone&#8211;to operate in a wholly unfettered manner.  That&#8217;s why we have laws after all.  Nobody really wants &#8220;the law of the jungle&#8221;&#8211;especially not corporations which need to know the law, courts and governments will enforce their contracts, bail them out when they are in distress, provide roads and other infrastructure, provide schools to train future employees, provide trade representatives and other diplomats to hammer out deals with other countries allowing for trade, provide subsidies and other incentives for their businesses.</p>
<p>The &#8220;free market&#8221; is a misnomer.  Our current economy is of course regulated&#8211;by courts, by international agreements on tariffs, by Federal Reserve policymakers, by state and federal legislators who pass laws on the minimum wage, on the right to unionize (or not, in &#8220;right to work&#8221; states), on health and safety standards, on discrimination, on copyright and patent protection, on spending programs allotting research and development dollars.   The question isn&#8217;t whether to regulate, it&#8217;s when and how to regulate, and whether to acknowledge the reality that businesses don&#8217;t succeed on their own.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=641842', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: eblair</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jun 2006 18:32:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting points Parrotlover--I definitely get annoyed by those who try to throw slogans around--socialist, communist, etc.  This is pretty brainless.  The question of how much regulation is an important one.  I don&#039;t trust companies--or anyone--to operate in a wholly unfettered manner.  That&#039;s why we have laws after all.  Nobody really wants &quot;the law of the jungle&quot;--especially not corporations which need to know the law, courts and governments will enforce their contracts, bail them out when they are in distress, provide roads and other infrastructure, provide schools to train future employees, provide trade representatives and other diplomats to hammer out deals with other countries allowing for trade, provide subsidies and other incentives for their businesses.

The &quot;free market&quot; is a misnomer.  Our current economy is of course regulated--by courts, by international agreements on tariffs, by Federal Reserve policymakers, by state and federal legislators who pass laws on the minimum wage, on the right to unionize (or not, in &quot;right to work&quot; states), on health and safety standards, on discrimination.   The question isn&#039;t whether to regulate, it&#039;s when and how to regulate, and whether to acknowledge the reality that businesses don&#039;t succeed on their own.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting points Parrotlover&#8211;I definitely get annoyed by those who try to throw slogans around&#8211;socialist, communist, etc.  This is pretty brainless.  The question of how much regulation is an important one.  I don&#8217;t trust companies&#8211;or anyone&#8211;to operate in a wholly unfettered manner.  That&#8217;s why we have laws after all.  Nobody really wants &#8220;the law of the jungle&#8221;&#8211;especially not corporations which need to know the law, courts and governments will enforce their contracts, bail them out when they are in distress, provide roads and other infrastructure, provide schools to train future employees, provide trade representatives and other diplomats to hammer out deals with other countries allowing for trade, provide subsidies and other incentives for their businesses.</p>
<p>The &#8220;free market&#8221; is a misnomer.  Our current economy is of course regulated&#8211;by courts, by international agreements on tariffs, by Federal Reserve policymakers, by state and federal legislators who pass laws on the minimum wage, on the right to unionize (or not, in &#8220;right to work&#8221; states), on health and safety standards, on discrimination.   The question isn&#8217;t whether to regulate, it&#8217;s when and how to regulate, and whether to acknowledge the reality that businesses don&#8217;t succeed on their own.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=641836', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Parrotlover77</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/06/25/feingold-somalia/comment-page-5/#comment-641800</link>
		<dc:creator>Parrotlover77</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jun 2006 18:17:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;â€œAny of various theories or systems of social organization in which the means of producing and distributing goods is owned collectively or by a centralized government that often plans and controls the economy.â€&lt;/em&gt;

Good point.  Glad you brought it up.  This is a very loose definition that can be applicable to even the existing free market system in the USA.  Regulation becomes the public&#039;s &quot;means&quot; of producing and distributing and being &quot;owned&quot; by the people.  Think about it.  The government already subsidzes farmers to grow certain crops instead of others, taxes and tarrifs imports/exports, and controls the eb and flow of the economy through control of interest rates, money production, and so on.  The key is the amount of regulation and the amount of trust for the market to &quot;fix itself.&quot;  It will fit into either a free-market or state-run economy.  I happen to prefer free market (being a small business owner myself), so I suppose for a Socialist, I&#039;m actually &quot;conservative.&quot;  ;-)  For me, it&#039;s the social aspects that apply to me.  Healthcare for everybody and all that.  In today&#039;s terms, a single linear graph of political views does not fit.  That&#039;s why many systems use a two dimensional grid instead.

I&#039;d never support a state-run economy, but I do support a lot of regulation.  I&#039;m a registered Democrat with Socialist ideals.  &quot;Very Left&quot; Democrat, I suppose.

I guess I should stop being so nit-picky, considering that I cannot even &quot;nail it down&quot; myself without getting all abstract.  I think I just am tired of the thought that all aspects of Socialism deal with state-owned economy, so I tend to get on my soapbox.  :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>â€œAny of various theories or systems of social organization in which the means of producing and distributing goods is owned collectively or by a centralized government that often plans and controls the economy.â€</em></p>
<p>Good point.  Glad you brought it up.  This is a very loose definition that can be applicable to even the existing free market system in the USA.  Regulation becomes the public&#8217;s &#8220;means&#8221; of producing and distributing and being &#8220;owned&#8221; by the people.  Think about it.  The government already subsidzes farmers to grow certain crops instead of others, taxes and tarrifs imports/exports, and controls the eb and flow of the economy through control of interest rates, money production, and so on.  The key is the amount of regulation and the amount of trust for the market to &#8220;fix itself.&#8221;  It will fit into either a free-market or state-run economy.  I happen to prefer free market (being a small business owner myself), so I suppose for a Socialist, I&#8217;m actually &#8220;conservative.&#8221;  ;-)  For me, it&#8217;s the social aspects that apply to me.  Healthcare for everybody and all that.  In today&#8217;s terms, a single linear graph of political views does not fit.  That&#8217;s why many systems use a two dimensional grid instead.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d never support a state-run economy, but I do support a lot of regulation.  I&#8217;m a registered Democrat with Socialist ideals.  &#8220;Very Left&#8221; Democrat, I suppose.</p>
<p>I guess I should stop being so nit-picky, considering that I cannot even &#8220;nail it down&#8221; myself without getting all abstract.  I think I just am tired of the thought that all aspects of Socialism deal with state-owned economy, so I tend to get on my soapbox.  :-)<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=641800', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Parrotlover77</title>
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		<dc:creator>Parrotlover77</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jun 2006 17:52:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not a problem, eblair.  I just like to let fellow Progressives know that the &quot;S&quot; word is nothing to be ashamed of.  :-)  The trolls that generalize the left-wing as those who want to do away with the economy and make everything state-run amuse me, considering they support an administration that has continually tried to eat away at our civil rights and personal freedoms... Not to mention supports the massive unregulated consolidation of corporations into less larger entities, instead of more smaller entities.  I&#039;d love to hear how having only a few MegaCorporations that collude instead of compete is different from a state-run company.

So that begs the question, who is &lt;em&gt;actually&lt;/em&gt; closer to a Fascist regime that wants everything &quot;state-run?&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not a problem, eblair.  I just like to let fellow Progressives know that the &#8220;S&#8221; word is nothing to be ashamed of.  :-)  The trolls that generalize the left-wing as those who want to do away with the economy and make everything state-run amuse me, considering they support an administration that has continually tried to eat away at our civil rights and personal freedoms&#8230; Not to mention supports the massive unregulated consolidation of corporations into less larger entities, instead of more smaller entities.  I&#8217;d love to hear how having only a few MegaCorporations that collude instead of compete is different from a state-run company.</p>
<p>So that begs the question, who is <em>actually</em> closer to a Fascist regime that wants everything &#8220;state-run?&#8221;<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=641730', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: eblair</title>
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		<dc:creator>eblair</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jun 2006 17:51:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>that seems about right Worfeus.  thanks</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>that seems about right Worfeus.  thanks<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=641723', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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