VIDEO: Sen. Levin and Fox Anchor in On-Air Scuffle Over Iraq Plan
By on Jun 27th, 2006 at 11:59 am
VIDEO: Sen. Levin and Fox Anchor in On-Air Scuffle Over Iraq Plan
This morning on Fox & Friends, anchor Brian Kilmeade and Sen. Carl Levin (D-MI) had a heated exchange over Gen. George Casey’s stated plan to begin redeploying U.S. forces out of Iraq by the end of 2006.
Levin ended the segment by telling the anchor, “Well, thank you for your opinion. But I was hoping this would be an interview of me rather than an interview of you.” Afterwards, Kilmeade was shown scowling and shaking his head. Watch it:
Read the full transcript HERE.
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Levin’s foot must be tired from kicking so much ass all day.
June 27th, 2006 at 12:02 pmWell, there’s one more Democrat with a spine.
June 27th, 2006 at 12:04 pmThat’s hot…
June 27th, 2006 at 12:06 pmThis more approprate name for the network may be too big to fit as a lower third graphic, however:
“FOX & Friends… & Enemies, & Our Own Personal Bias & Peronal Opinion… & A Hearty Helping Of Lies & Spin.”
June 27th, 2006 at 12:06 pmNot sure what Levin expected when he showed up on Fox and Friends. Since this is not really a news organization any pretense at interviewing is just a sham. Since Ailes is on the warpath about low ratings I would not be surprised to see the Fox “commentators” start challenging their guests to armed duels.
June 27th, 2006 at 12:10 pm“Well, thank you for your opinion. But I was hoping this would be an interview of me rather than an interview of you.â€
OUCH! Way to go Senator Levin!
June 27th, 2006 at 12:12 pmGreat job Senator Levin.
June 27th, 2006 at 12:14 pmI think all Democrats that agree to be on Fox/Saudi News should throw in some ridicule for Fox/Saidi News at every opportunity, because the only reason Fox/Saudi News wants Democrats on their network is to make them look bad and attack them.
as we see theres more to this than meets the eye at first blush…levin/kerry come forward with a time table, even NIXON had one for leaving Viet Nam?
June 27th, 2006 at 12:15 pmDid you see the Mcgaughlin report as Blankley and Buchanan near left their seats when Nixon was called “cut and run”?
Senator Joe Bidens plan calls for a partition of the country which ha sits merit? based on the notion since the parties have deep divisions sectioning the country is the way?Sort of the United States of Iraq?
I mean think about it, Iraq didnt even exist til britain decreed itds boundaries?
But nearly the next day General casey announces a reduction???!!!
Who is playing who for a fool here? And ‘ol Murtha he must be saying I told ya so?
Its astonishing that one more time again the republicans cant shoot straight? the most inept governnace inb the history of the nation.
I for one will not refer to anyone as “cut and riun” asFox’s Gibson?
Kilmeade, this is the same guy who during the DC sniper scare was saying we need to investigate the military because JAM was an ex-sniper, this was while the Troops were over in Iraq fighting for his sorry ass’s freedoms. Last night on an older Daily show they also showed a clip of this moron saying ” Give a hundred monkeys typewriters and one of them could write the bible” DBD, douche bag deluxe.
June 27th, 2006 at 12:15 pmMan I want a real scuffle. I want to see Murtha put the ruthless smack down on BO, until BO is curled up on the floor crying for his mommy.
June 27th, 2006 at 12:27 pmThis is great! Progressives need to comment on the process (”interview you”) as well as the content (what Casey said) whenever possible. Only then is there any chance to challenge the agenda of the right wing media.
June 27th, 2006 at 12:28 pmLooks like another Fox Clownhole that Roger Ailes might have to fire now that his network is sinking in the ratings.
-GSD
June 27th, 2006 at 12:36 pmWouldn’t it be great to see some real fights break out for once? I think it’s appropriate. If they love this country as much as the rest of us do, they’d want to break their f***ing jaw passing them in the halls of Congress for what they are doing to it.
June 27th, 2006 at 12:39 pmIf republicans/fox news people are pointing fingers at democrats for what they are calling “cutting and running” on the Iraq war, then the democrats should start pointing fingers at the repugs for “cutting” taxes for the very rich and “running” up the deficit. The republicans are the real “cut and run” cowards.
June 27th, 2006 at 12:39 pmBrian Kilmeade is just another rightwing talk show wannabe who couldn’t make it as a sports anchor and dreams of one day going it alone like Sean Hannity. His big mouth keeps him out of the spotlight, however.
Here is an example of how Kilmeade’s killer mouth over loads his pea sized brain:
On July 8th, 2005, a day after London’s subway system was attacked by terrorists, Kilmeade asserted : “I think that works to our advantage, in the Western world’s advantage, for people to experience something like this together.”
Keep on keeping on, Brian. We appreciate your help on the issues.
June 27th, 2006 at 12:45 pmThis is so ridiculous. It’s like the home shopping network. They just want to you to buy what they are selling
It’s so low grade, unprofessional journalism.Did I say journalism. I think most journalists in this country and the whole world agree that FoxNews is a joke, not a news network.
Just wait untill they start calling Bush, Dear Leader
June 27th, 2006 at 12:45 pmApparently Brian Kilmeade, the toady, is taking the words of Roger Ailes to heart and wants to secure his job. He didn’t do too well, though.
June 27th, 2006 at 12:45 pmFox News is the butt of many jokes as the propaganda machine for BushCo. Ailes should consider that fact when evaluating his personnel.
Levin shows what all Democrats should do when abused by ignorant news readers – stick to the point and smile as you deliver their deserved sarcasm.
prop·a·gan·da (n) – information that is spread for the purpose of promoting some cause
see: FOX
June 27th, 2006 at 12:49 pmI thought Levin was gonna cry when he couldnt follow his scripted talking points.
June 27th, 2006 at 12:49 pmNO WONDER FOX RATINGS ARE DOWN – BECAUSE OF CLOWNS LIKE KILMEADE. WHAT AN ASSHOLE.
June 27th, 2006 at 12:49 pmThose Fox morning clowns are the worst….how can anyone take them seriously?
They remind me of the cast of the Drew Cary Show.
June 27th, 2006 at 12:51 pmThis same tool Kilmeade was interviewing NYC Police Chief Ray Kelly during the Repuke convention on how to deal with protesters. Kelly was civil, Kilmeade kept saying how he wanted to beat up protesters. I am suprised no one confronted him outside after his show
June 27th, 2006 at 12:53 pm” …then the democrats should start pointing fingers at the repugs for “cutting†taxes for the very rich and “running†up the deficit. The republicans are the real “cut and run†cowards.”
June 27th, 2006 at 12:54 pmOh, obie, I like that. With your permission, I will be sure to use it every chance I get and encourage others to do the same. Thanks.
I would rather be lit on fire than have to sit through a segment of Fox & Anything but I’m glad we have some senators in this country willing to bite the bullet and get on that right-wing propaganda machine and throw a bit of truth and reality in their face.
June 27th, 2006 at 12:54 pmThank you, Senator Levin.
My god, what an asshat that interviewer is.
June 27th, 2006 at 12:56 pmWhy do you think it’s called the FOX network.
June 27th, 2006 at 12:57 pm“Earth” the sitcom is a comedy for the rest of the universe.
That was refreshing!
Feingold & Levin in 2008?
June 27th, 2006 at 12:58 pm“I thought Levin was gonna cry when he couldnt follow his scripted talking points.” said Brandi with an i.
June 27th, 2006 at 12:58 pm- – GACK.
#27 temperance
June 27th, 2006 at 1:00 pmOnly if democrats get a clear majority in the Senate – otherwise we will continue to need them there.
WMP?
But Levin, bless his heart, is still a “Fox Democrat”
June 27th, 2006 at 1:02 pmTypical Faux tactics.
Lie, Deny, Avoid, Blame, accuse.
The Immoral Theocratic Republicans.
These people, to do GOD’s work have rationalized lying.
“Christianity and Democracy are inevitably enemies.” Rousas Rushdoony
These are not Christians folks, they are the enemy of democacy, not the friend of it, and as such, these Rushdoonies are actually enemies of the State.
June 27th, 2006 at 1:06 pmThey are enemies of the constitution.
Brandi with an i.
- – GACK.
Comment by Badmoodman
Stripper name…
June 27th, 2006 at 1:09 pmSince Ailes is on the warpath about low ratings I would not be surprised to see the Fox “commentators†start challenging their guests to armed duels.
Comment by Sluggo — June 27, 2006 @ 12:10 pm
It still wouldn’t be original. Remember Sen Zell Miller telling Chris Matthews something like, “If this were the old days, I’d challenge you to a duel!” Whatever the Senator’s intent, it turned out to be one of the funniest moments in live television history.
June 27th, 2006 at 1:09 pmWell there’s another Democrat we’ll never see on Fox News again. Good for Levin.
Fox News, just like the Bush Republicans, always put themselves before the good of the country.
June 27th, 2006 at 1:10 pmYet further proof that FOX NEWS is the unofficial PROPAGANDA outlet of the Bush Regime. Edward R. Murrow must be rolling in his grave.
June 27th, 2006 at 1:10 pmWhy would any sane person appear on Fox? You know they’ll make you look bad no matter how good you are. Boycott Fox appearances!
June 27th, 2006 at 1:11 pmHa! It’s about time someone smacked down Brian the Brain(IQ 67). He is so idiotic and stoopid I can’t even stand to watch that show for 5 minutes.
June 27th, 2006 at 1:12 pmjust another fat old jew democrat pissed off because his party is no longer in power and never will be again until they loose the yellow stripe up their spines (whats left of their spines).
June 27th, 2006 at 1:13 pmwho really cares other than moonbats what this old fart says?? I damn sure don’t.
but PLEASE keep it up you left wingnut democrats! you did more to help the republicans stay in power than ALL the commericals, speeches, debates etc.
with the Levin- Feingold- schumer- scumbag nutjobs joining the ranks of Sheehan ( possibly the queen moonbat),Michael Moore. that unfunny jew-dork Al Franken, babs streisand, and other hollweird scum they are in good comapany.
please, please ,monbats keep on doin’ watcha doin’!!
What does Roger Ailes expect? When you tie your entertainment channel to a political party, the ratings are inseparable from the party. C’mon, his his senior war correspondent claims more combat experience than a Vietnam vet by virture of being hit in the head by a chair-wielding skinhead on a talkshow.
Fair and Balanced. Fair to middlin’ at best, and truth balanced with as much bullshit as can be piled on the scales.
June 27th, 2006 at 1:17 pmSince Fox isstrictly a propaganda outlet for the Republican party, any Democrat is a fool to appear on Fox. They avoid Pat Robinson’s network and should do the same with Fox. If Fox was reduced to being a RNC echo chamber viewers would realize that they are watching a biased program.
June 27th, 2006 at 1:18 pmThank you Senator Levin! ’bout time somebody called out one of these phony “news readers” on Al-FOXzeera!
June 27th, 2006 at 1:18 pmDammit #28, I was drinking soda when I read your comment. Now it’s on my desk and I fell on the floor laughing. “Brandi with an i.” Good stuff.
June 27th, 2006 at 1:20 pm#36….I agree. Why the hell does any progressive go on FOX? Boycott FOX.
June 27th, 2006 at 1:21 pmFOX should really second-guess whether to have Dems on at all… too risky that some (like Levin) might actually make a good showing, and they can’t have that!
Just backtrack to letting Kilmeade and his moronic cohorts read their version of ‘news’, without dissent, to the idiots that follow this joke of a news channel.
June 27th, 2006 at 1:21 pmBrian Kilmeade? Who in the hell is Brian Kilmeade?
June 27th, 2006 at 1:21 pmWhen did rude, disruptive, and combative behavior with guests become de rigueur for “news” reporters? This is precisely the kind of bevhaior we, as parents, would NEVER permit. But a so-called “news” network uses this tactic repeatedly to bully people they don’t agree with. How shameful. Fox must go.
June 27th, 2006 at 1:23 pmIf Dems don’t go on Fox they are derided for being scared and weak. You go with the knowledge that you are heading into the fire so to speak.
June 27th, 2006 at 1:23 pm[moderated by admin.]
June 27th, 2006 at 1:24 pm“Brandi with an i.†– - And you just know that when it’s written in longhand, that ‘i’ is a smiley face. Ok, moving on…
June 27th, 2006 at 1:27 pmFOX is such a piss network. One of these days you just watch, that bunch of right wing wacko’s calling themselves news are going down the toilet. People are begining to catch understand they are a mouthpiece for the Republicans, and are turning them off. The reason for their drop in polling recently is diretly related to dropping Repugs numbers. Go to hell FOX you slimey bastards.
June 27th, 2006 at 1:29 pmYou ought to try it, cockbreath.
Comment by Joe Sixpack
Sorry, Moonbat Piss. I apologize for that remark. It’s that old rightwing, conservative streak that is still in me that makes me say such filth.
June 27th, 2006 at 1:30 pmWay to use race as a pejorative. Adds instant credibility!
The word “moonbat” is a shibboleth. Rather than making your point, it identifies you as someone buying whatever Fox <TACC> is selling. So congratulations on that, too.
Next time, could you please keep your comment on topic? Sen. Levin is quoting Gen. Casey. The administration says they listen to the generals on the ground, while calling the democrats cowards for saying the exact same thing. Sounds like politicizing war to me.
I bet you’re impressed with how studly Kilmeade appeared when he snipped, “I listened to you talk. I watched you read.”
June 27th, 2006 at 1:30 pmThere is a media war and the Democrats are losing!!! Once the GOP opens a full on investigation of the NY Times, the Dems will be hurt even more. They will have to side with treason over national security.
No wonder ThinkProgress hates us. You can’t beat us. You need to learn how to play the game – we destroy you EVERY time.
June 27th, 2006 at 1:33 pmIf you watch Fox News like I do, you will notice any time a Lieberal starts to make a point that cannot be shouted down by a Foxcaster, or if the person on Fox can’t fall back on their talking points, they always seem to be “Up on a hard break”.
This is Foxspeak for “Cutting and Running”
Watch it, they do it every time!
You know the Liberal guest has them on the ropes when they say that. Brian kept talking to get his point out, despite having to immediately dump to a commercial, wich is the true meaning of a “Hard Break”.
June 27th, 2006 at 1:33 pmAnd you just know that when it’s written in longhand, that ‘i’ is a smiley face.
Comment by Badmoodman
I was thinking tiny hearts…
June 27th, 2006 at 1:34 pmI read LEVINS comments and all he does is spin…he is the most phoney politician with those glasses on the end of his nose i have ever laid eyes on… he belongs as a professor in a liberal university talking down to students. why don’t you leftest take your blinders off… cheers Dwight
June 27th, 2006 at 1:34 pmI posted a comment on this type of “interview” conducted by Fox some time ago. Their favorite trick is if they have ONE person on, and it is a democrat (which they always refer to as the far left) that person hardly gets a sentence out of his mouth before the Fox interviewer chimes in and interupts with some stupid comment to throw the “far left” person off stride. If there are TWO persons, a neocon and a “far lefter” they will let the neocon talk without a single interruption to complete his/her point. As soon as the “far lefter” starts to talk, the interruptions by the Fox commentator start again! Its a favorite ploy of theirs. Another is to pair up a vociferous, rabid neocon, with a weak “far lefter.” Witness Hannity and Colmes as an example! And O’Reilly, he is in a class by himself, even threatening to throw persons off the set if they say something he does not agree with. The Fox claim of being fair and balanced is more like unfair and unbalanced and is nothing short of a modern day sham!
June 27th, 2006 at 1:38 pmThis interview is more reason to NOT! watch Fox (Faux) news and the Fox freaks who fancy themselves as being the talent. I am looking forward to Murdock cleaning house of these rude launchy interviewers who are not curteous to guests and always talk over them.
That sucking sound you here is the FOX ratings falling off a cliff! Ya whooooooo!!
June 27th, 2006 at 1:39 pmAh, darling #38.
“just another fat old jew democrat “. There you have it, folks. Republican racism at its finest.
June 27th, 2006 at 1:40 pmmoonbat = Rush fluffer
June 27th, 2006 at 1:42 pmthere’s no credibilty hangin’ with known drug addicts
why don’t you leftest take your blinders off… cheers Dwight
Comment by dwight s
(_!_)
June 27th, 2006 at 1:42 pmMMIAT (#53) – it’s interesting that you are proud that the Republicans are better at politicizing situations than the Dems are. Is that really soemthing to be proud of? It seems that, to you, the important thing is that Republicans ‘win’ regardless of the impact to this once-great country.
Another example of ‘Party Before Country’.
June 27th, 2006 at 1:42 pmZoo: I was thinking tiny hearts… – - Well, I assumed that would the ‘a,’ but you could be right. (stop me before I get pissy again.)
June 27th, 2006 at 1:44 pmBoycott Fox and all their advertisers. We need to get this thing started. Hit them in the pocket book since all they understand is $.
June 27th, 2006 at 1:45 pmReference #56
Guess we could expect that type comment from a neocon troll. How does Levin stack up with your holier than thou Tom Delay. Its just like a Rabid right winger to attack someone on his LOOKS rather than the substance of what he/she says. You only post on here because you THINK you have all the answers. Why not try giving us dumb democrats the benefit of your superior thinking on a solution for the war, as a starter, and when you finish with that, there are at least another dirty dozen things you could “clear up” for the Decider!
June 27th, 2006 at 1:46 pmmy lefttesti kinda hurts dwight. massages?
June 27th, 2006 at 1:47 pmWhen I despair, I remember that all through history the ways of truth and love have always won. There have been tyrants, and murderers, and for a time they can seem invincible, but in the end they always fall. Think of it – always.
-Mahatma Gandhi
June 27th, 2006 at 1:48 pmBadmoodman,
Well, I assumed that would the ‘a,’ but you could be right. (stop me before I get pissy again.)
I see you caught my meaning. ;)
June 27th, 2006 at 1:52 pmYou? Pissy? Never!
[moderated by admin.]
June 27th, 2006 at 1:55 pmI never watch Fox because I know it’s dog doo doo, but I watched this clip. Those people are RUDE! It’s almost like watching a public flogging! Now I know, again, why I never watch Fox News!
I like Senator Levin’s remarks about his interview vs the idiot’s opinion. They really don’t want to hear anything else but their own voices. ARRGH!
June 27th, 2006 at 1:56 pmI am so proud that Senator Levin is my senator. We have another great senator in Michigan, Debbie Stabenow. And a great governor, Jennifer Granholm. Way to go, Dems with guts.
June 27th, 2006 at 1:57 pmKilmeade is a jackass. He isn’t smart enough to be a sports anchor and quite frankly the only that keeps him off of disability and employed is that he is so obnoxious he makes the others look brilliant.
Think of the kind of people we have walking around that not only devour everything that Hannity and Bill O spit out, but believe him word for word too.
That is why the Dems have such an uphill battle.
June 27th, 2006 at 2:00 pmLove that head shake at the end.
June 27th, 2006 at 2:04 pmDude was pissed he got caught spinning instead of interviewing.
Hey, #38 moonbat patrol, and your party is doing a great job of getting Dems back in power.
June 27th, 2006 at 2:06 pm#47, I still don’t know why Dems appear on Fox at all…after all, they didn’t appear in those White House financed fake news segments, and Fox is about the same level of talking point spewing propaganda. Dems gracing Fox with their presence gives Fox the appearance of integrity.
If the Democratic party took a stand to refuse to allow any members go appear on Fox for its general GOP-biased badness, the lack of fairness and/or balance might finally draw attention.
June 27th, 2006 at 2:06 pmBrian Kilmeade was exceedingly polite. Senator Levin would have made less of a partisan fool of himself IF he had read not ONE scenario proposed to General Casey but an additional hypothetical situation. But as Dems are aware that both sides of a story confuse “critical thinkers” on the Left, they often resort to emotional mudslinging.
Hint to noted television news critic, William Day. Your observation regarding the interview style of certain television personalities MIGHT carry a bit more weight had you noted the position titles ascribed to conservatives on various shows for the last 15 years. I am sure it was a “time crunch” rather than your faulty or selective memory
P.S. Rupert Murdoch would like to take this opportunity to thank Think Progress for being such devoted viewers of Fox News Channel.
June 27th, 2006 at 2:09 pmTwo years ago I started watching and listening to politics from both sides. I’ve watched Fox & Friends, O’reily, Sean H., Rush L. and a couple of others and the conclusion I have come to is that these people are evil in the worse way. There not sensitive to minorities, they lie with a straight face and they do not agree with the other mainstream outlets when the facts are in front of them. Last month or so I stopped listening and watching them. Good job conservatives or republicans or whatever you call yourselves and Sean H. you are not a gret American!
June 27th, 2006 at 2:10 pmmy dear leftest…i used to be a lefty but then i actually got into politics… the easiest way to debate a liberal is hit them with facts… look at your party and who controls it and then you tell me you have the answers…. give me a break…i could give you chapter and verse why your party will lose again.. but i actually have to work for a living so you democrats will have social security when your old….. cheers Dwight
June 27th, 2006 at 2:11 pm#75, maybe, but I also think that having faux journalists antagonize democratic figures turns off many people, and exposes their bias. As long as you have gutsy types like Levin, it might not be so bad.
June 27th, 2006 at 2:12 pmFINALLY, some of the Democrats have located their balls. Now if we could just get the other 95% to do the same we might actually have an effective party that can win an election!
June 27th, 2006 at 2:13 pmkilmeade ate his lunch
June 27th, 2006 at 2:15 pmP.S Nico – If you call the teensy Kilmeade/Levin exchange an “on-air scuffle”, you have obviously never been in or seen a “scuffle”
From Freeonline Dictionary
1.) verb – To fight or struggle confusedly at close quarters
2.) verb – A rough disorderly struggle
3.) noun – A hoe that is manipulated by pushing and pulling. Also called a Dutch hoe, scuffle hoe.
I didn’t know Senator Levin was Dutch?
June 27th, 2006 at 2:20 pmRun it again and dig the look on Killjoy’s face. He knows he got punked.
June 27th, 2006 at 2:20 pm…i used to be a lefty…
Comment by dwight s — June 27, 2006 @ 2:11 pm
really, you guys don’t have to lie about this… doesn’t wash…
June 27th, 2006 at 2:21 pmdoesn’t even matter…
Fox does not do news, they do proaganda. They’re not about to criticize their President or MyPedatorSpace or Mancow the porn purveyor, or any of the other drek they pass as news converage.
The folks who live on the hill these days are not Americans; they’re just followers of Country A.
June 27th, 2006 at 2:21 pmDew ite makes no sense.
June 27th, 2006 at 2:22 pmYeah, those trashy trailer park conservatives know all about a ‘good scuffle’. By their definition, someone has to lose teeth or get a black eye.
June 27th, 2006 at 2:22 pmNice cut and run Dwight. Issue a challenge then excuse yourself.
I can usually get bushbots to put up a pretty good fight myself, but then I ask them what’s more important, Bush or the US Constitution.
June 27th, 2006 at 2:23 pmFox News: The Official News Outlet of the Republican Party
Every day the bias gets a little more blatant. As the Republican Syndicate implodes in Congress, the Propaganda Organ has to work a little bit harder misinforming their audience.
Levin’s final remark was a thing of beauty. Kilmeade “got it” way too late to nuetralize it. Funny stuff.
June 27th, 2006 at 2:23 pmKilmeade’s chin quivered!
:D
June 27th, 2006 at 2:23 pmBrian Kilmeade needs to go. He is no journalist – he is the story.
—-
kilmeade ate his lunch
Comment by jc — June 27, 2006 @ 2:15 pm
kilmeade isnt in the business of doing anything with anyones lunch. sure, he is a freeper plant that cares nothing for journalism, but he needs to learn to report not promote.
June 27th, 2006 at 2:25 pmWhen Fox News, the La La Land Branch of Right Wing Journalism, have guests like Carl Levin, who has both feet firmly rooted in reality, there’s bound to be some friction, or an uncomfortable disconnect. Much akin to watching a badly scripted and badly drawn cartoon (in this case Brian Kilmeade) interacting with an intelligent and rational human being (as in Carl Levin). On most days it’s hard to tell whether Fox is competing with the Cartoon Channel or the Comedy Channel.
June 27th, 2006 at 2:25 pm#79 – “maybe, but I also think that having faux journalists antagonize democratic figures turns off many people, and exposes their bias.” – Anonymouse ONE
The pansies must be in bloom in Prog Party headquarters – but go back and look at some of the “hard hitting” interviews done by Sam Donaldson, Dan Rather, Peter Jennings, etc. Your hypocrisy is showing – and sadly predictable….
’til later….
June 27th, 2006 at 2:26 pm#53 The Old Bushie admin. will never investigate the NYT because the people of America will never stand for this.
By the way in November the Dems will take over both houses and Old Bushie and his corrupt admin. will be IMPEACHED.
you can cry in your beer.
June 27th, 2006 at 2:29 pmKashKrupa,
typically I find comedy central to be more informative. On the other hand if you view fox as a parody, its good stuff. Kind of like the colbert report 24/7.
June 27th, 2006 at 2:33 pm#38 just another fat old jew democrat pissed off because his party is no longer in power and never will be again until they loose the yellow stripe up their spines (whats left of their spines). -moonbat patrol
There’s nothing quite like anti-semitism to further invalidate a comment which, in actuality, contains nothing more than caustic name-calling. Who still uses jew as a slur? Furthermore, Hollyweird? honestly. I feel there is some sort of shooting-fish-barrel game going on with this ass-clown. Though i’m still willing to play:
June 27th, 2006 at 2:40 pmI especially like the multiple ‘moonbat’ comments as though its a valid point. I’m curious how the imperial wizard even stumbled on this site.
And to Moon-bat patrol himself, please keep your narcissistic and inflamatory diatribes to yourself, this isn’t the third-reich.
#
just another fat old jew democrat pissed off because his party is no longer in power and never will be again until they loose the yellow stripe up their spines (whats left of their spines).
who really cares other than moonbats what this old fart says?? I damn sure don’t.
but PLEASE keep it up you left wingnut democrats! you did more to help the republicans stay in power than ALL the commericals, speeches, debates etc.
with the Levin- Feingold- schumer- scumbag nutjobs joining the ranks of Sheehan ( possibly the queen moonbat),Michael Moore. that unfunny jew-dork Al Franken, babs streisand, and other hollweird scum they are in good comapany.
please, please ,monbats keep on doin’ watcha doin’!!
Comment by moonbat patrol — June 27, 2006 @ 1:13 pm
Compassionate Conservativism at it’s best
June 27th, 2006 at 2:40 pmMy best customers here in DC are Republicans so I am quite used to seeing them receive a nasty spanking.
June 27th, 2006 at 2:42 pmThe rudeness that is displayed on FOX diminishes the quality of our society and everyone of us if we allow this to become the standard. Please dont let yourself be one of the 32% who watch Faux (Fox) and think Bushy is doing a good job. There are facts and there is Fox.
June 27th, 2006 at 2:46 pmThis interview and the comments thereafter made me realize that Fox News needs new talent—like Bagdad Bob. That would lift their ratings and brighten everyone’s spirits at the same time.
June 27th, 2006 at 2:47 pmYou people are all correct who condemn Faux News. So many people despise our current president that I don’t think even the constant bombardment from the nitwits who are the Faux personnel can help him. The thing that really, really, really scares me are the voting machines manufactured and maintained by Deibold, et al with nothing traceable. The republican people cannot be allowed to steal another election.
June 27th, 2006 at 2:47 pmMoonbat patrol-
“wa wa wa, blah blah blah blah blah bla blah, wa wa wa wa democrats wa wa wa wa, blah blah, blah, blah. blah blah blah blah blah blah michael moore blah blah blah blah, wa wa wa wa wa.”
Do conservatives even think? I know democrats(Hillary is not one bit progressive) do not think that much either, but conservatives are just retarded………….
June 27th, 2006 at 2:51 pm#78 Dwight…… are you there, hello!!!! You didnt make a comment on the recent racist remarks O’reily, Snow and other Fox cronnies made. I still will not give them anymore ratings on TV or RADIO and will spread the word about it. C’mon why 90% or so of blacks dont vote RIGHT CHICKEN WING PARTY ? YOU TURD!
June 27th, 2006 at 2:58 pmI hope everyone watched the video… the last 10 seconds are priceless. Looked like the FOX jocks were gonna cry… priceless.
June 27th, 2006 at 3:00 pm#38 – Moonbat patrol – Shame on you! As a conservative whose Jewish mother was able to leave Nazi occupied Europe as a small child, might I suggest shaving your head a little more smoothly before you take your sheet and hood in for their annual dry-cleaning.
Having read some of the anti- Semitic viciousness from the radical left and extreme right on this website – I am convinced that both sets of NUTCASES meet in the circle.
June 27th, 2006 at 3:00 pmWho still uses jew as a slur?
Comment by Matty — June 27, 2006 @ 2:40 pm
“Deputy Leader Dick’s hunting buddies.”
June 27th, 2006 at 3:02 pmfunny video at Jesus’ General
This is the same guy who indicated he was afraid to sleep on a sleeping Porch, after he was told what it was, one morning. He whined but what about the flies? This while he was cheerleading for the runup to the war.
Also, when GWB belatedly flew over the Katrina disaster, he characterized it as
June 27th, 2006 at 3:05 pm
#106 MA
June 27th, 2006 at 3:08 pmI actually agree with you on this one. Moonbat patrol’s anti-Semitic slur was disgusting. I’m afraid, however, that s/he has no shame in his/her disagreements with others.
They’re Just More Important Than You Are
Are any secrets more important than the New York Times’s sources?
By Andrew C. McCarthy
The echo trails off the last defiantly gleeful chorus of “We Are the World.†Reality stubbornly dawns on you: There really are bad people out there. They are the world, too. And they want to kill you.
They refuse to be reasoned with. They can afford to. They’re not a country. They don’t have to worry about defending a territory. They are seeped into places that can’t be bombed into submission. They are the world, after all. They are the children — or at least hidden among them. No “Mutually Assured Destruction†here.
No, you have only one defense: Intelligence. Superpower power is useless. What are you gonna do? Hit them where they live? Bomb Hamburg? Bomb London? Bomb New York?
Not an option. Your nukes, stealth fighters, carpet bombers … they’re largely irrelevant. This is not about killing an advancing brigade. It’s about killing cells. A handful of operatives here and there, nestled among millions of innocents.
The real challenge is not how to kill them — or at least capture them. It’s how to find them. How to identify them from among the hordes they dress like, sound like, and even act like … right up until the moment they board a plane. Or wave cheerily alongside a naval destroyer. Or park their nondescript van in the catacombs of a mighty skyscraper.
The only way to prevent terrorist attacks is to gather intelligence. It is to collect the information that reveals who the jihadists are, who is backing them with money and resources, and where they are likely to strike. There is nothing else.
How do you get such intelligence? Your options are few. The terrorists you capture, you squeeze until they break. Since your laws and protocols forbid physical coercion, you must employ psychological pressure — relentless detachment and loneliness that may render a battle-hard, hate-obsessed detainee hopeless enough and dependent enough on his interrogators to tell you the deepest, deadliest secrets. So you move your captives to places where they will be isolated, and forlorn, and … eventually — maybe after a very long time — moved to tell you what they know about their fellow savages.
Otherwise, you use your technological wizardry to penetrate their communications. You use your mastery of the global web that is modern finance to find the money and follow it — until you can pierce the veiled charities and masked philanthropists behind the terror dollars. Until you strangle the supply lines that convert hatred into action.
All the while, you never underestimate your enemies. You know they are clever, resourceful, and adaptive. You know they study you, just as you are studying them. More effectively, in fact. After all, when you find their vulnerabilities, there is still due process. When they find yours, there is murder. Mass murder.
Life or death. Which one it will be turns solely on intelligence and secrecy. Can you find out how they next intend to kill you, can you stop them, and can you prevent them from knowing how you know … so you can stop them again?
Simple as that. Modernity has changed many things, but it hasn’t changed that. In command of the first American military forces, and facing a deadly enemy, George Washington himself observed that the “necessity of procuring good intelligence is apparent and need not be further urged…. [U]pon Secrecy, Success depends in Most Enterprises … and for want of it, they are generally defeated.â€
What on earth would George Washington have made of Bill Keller, executive editor of the New York Times, and his comrades in today’s American media?
What would he have made of transparently politicized free-speech zealots who inform for the enemy and have the nerve to call it “patriotism.â€
Who say, “If you try to isolate barbarians to make them hand up the other barbarians, we will expose it.â€
“If you try to intercept enemy communications — as victorious militaries have done in every war ever fought — we will tell all the world, including the enemy, exactly what you’re up to.â€
“If you track the enemy’s finances, we will blow you out of the water. We’ll disclose just what you’re doing and just how you’re doing it. Even if it’s saving innocent lives.â€
And why this last? Remember five years ago, back when they figured “you’re not doing enough†was the best way to bash the Bush administration? Remember the Times and its ilk — disdainful of aggressive military responses — tut-tutting about how the disruption of money flows was the key to thwarting international terrorists. So why compromise that?
Is there some illegality going on in the government’s Terrorist Finance Tracking Program (exposed by the Times and other news outlets Friday)? No, no laws have been broken. Is there some abuse of power? No, there seem to have been extraordinary steps taken to inform relevant officials and win international cooperation. Why then? Why take action that can only aid and comfort the enemy in wartime?
Because, Keller haughtily pronounced, American methods of monitoring enemy money transfers are “a matter of public interest.â€
Really? The Times prattles on about what it claims is a dearth of checks and balances, but what are the checks and balances on Bill Keller? Can it be that our security hinges on whether the editor of an antiwar, for-profit journal thinks some defense measure might be interesting?
Well, here’s something truly interesting: There are people in the U.S. intelligence community who are revealing the nation’s most precious secrets.
The media aspire to be the public’s watchdog? Ever on the prowl to promote good government? Okay, here we have public officials endangering American lives. Public officials whose violation of a solemn oath to protect national defense information is both a profound offense against honor and a serious crime.
What about the public interest in that? What about the public interest in rooting out those who betray their country in wartime?
Not on your life.
National-security secrets? All fair game. If it’s about how we detain, or infiltrate, or defang the monsters pledged to kill us, the New York Times reserves the right to derail us any time it finds such matters … interesting.
But the media’s own sources? That, and that alone, is sacrosanct. Worth protecting above all else.
National-security secrets, after all, are merely the public treasure that keeps us alive. Press informants are the private preserve of the media.
And they’re just more important than you are.
June 27th, 2006 at 3:08 pmWE REPORT on Liberal whackjobs
YOU DECIDE they’re full of crap!
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June 27th, 2006 at 3:15 pm[...] It’s really quite funny — Sen. Carl Levin (D-MI) was on Fox & Friends and was getting the usual manhandling of a liberal by Brian Kilmeade. The one thing you notice when you watch regular news is how questions are posed to a guest. Then when you watch FoxNews, it’s like a tequila shot of stupidity. In this video, brought to you by the good folks at ThinkProgress, Kilmeade serves up an example of how to be an editorial interviewer. KILMEADE: But Senator, just one question for you. Just real quick, one last question for you: Why do you think the president would keep troops there past when they should be? [...]
June 27th, 2006 at 3:21 pm[...] Of course, Mr. Kilmeade already seems to know the answers before he asks questions, perhaps explaining why the ‘debate’ is so easy to follow. [...]
June 27th, 2006 at 3:24 pmso, bill, what does andy (nat.review online) say about the wall street journal’s printing the same story?
and, for future referene, a paragraph or two and the link will suffice…
June 27th, 2006 at 3:33 pmoh, that’s right… we’d probably skip the nro link…
#109 – PLC, It is good to know we can agree on at LEAST one issue. I have long been convinced that people often have more in common than biases permit.
June 27th, 2006 at 3:36 pmP.S. I do hope that moon/patrol remembers to retain the sheet tags on his kkklan costume – we wouldn’t want him to commit a fashion faux pas and put in on backwards….
It is a real laff to see the born-again Cretins here trying to defend Faux News propagandists like Brian Killme.
June 27th, 2006 at 3:47 pmQuote NO 78
…….”but i actually have to work for a living so you democrats will have social security when your old….. cheers Dwight
Comment by dwight s — June 27, 2006 @ 2:11 pm
Dwight,
You can work as long and hard as you’d like, it won’t matter. Your president now holds the distinction of spending more of America’s money than any former president. When Social Security falls on it’s financial ass due to the cost of funding war after war, intelligent people will know exactly which party to blame. Right now, you’re in denial.
Try this. Turn Rush, Hannity, and all the other conservative talk show hosts (all who did not join their country’s miliary) “OFF”. You might walk up.
Until then, continue to work hard my friend. We’ll need your tax dollars to to fund your presidents next war.
June 27th, 2006 at 3:51 pmI assume you’ve already enlisted?
#115 MA
June 27th, 2006 at 4:04 pmOK, then I challenge you to take a good long look at some of your posts and see if you see a trace of bigotry against progressives (not to the Anti-Semetic level, of course). If you do, how about trying to let go of it a bit? I’m not saying become a flaming liberal but changing your approach to your posts? Your response to Moonbat Patrol suggests that your posts and your heart are not aligned. I think you are better than some of your posts.
Why do the Democrats even bother to go on that “newschannel”? Just tell them to go F-Off and interview their zombie GOP congressman who are who they really are interested in hearing from anyway. Levin should have challenged Kilmeade and said to say it to his face, then watch the punk cry. If you let the Republican crackpots do their lies and spins, they will do it because they know no one will say anything. On that show Dayside on Faux, Carl Bernstein shut the whole Faux audience up when the anchor asked if the media was as hard on Clinton adminstration as it is on Bush, he said while Clinton was disingenuous on matters of a woman, Bush has been disingenous on the war, reasons for going to war, the way soldiers were dying in Iraq, being the most secretive govn’t since Nixon, looking to grab more power everyday, etc. None of the audience booed the dissent or criticism of Bush like they normally do, he shut their asses up. The Dems should learn from that.
June 27th, 2006 at 4:07 pmI love to see old democrats kick ass.
June 27th, 2006 at 4:09 pmmighty aphrodite,
I find it odd that you would attack moonbat patrol for a racial slur, but you backed up I-RIGHT-I’s racial slurs. Are you going soft on us or is it that you really do have an issue with it, but just like the way you prop up Bush, you would prop up I-RIGHT-I. Is I-RIGHT-I a friend of yours?
June 27th, 2006 at 4:09 pmWhat a douche bag that Brian is.
June 27th, 2006 at 4:10 pmPLC – How nice of you to critique “my approach”. No offense, but some of us are a bit more concise and sarcastic and others are a bit more sacharine and boring. I’ll take valuable time and track back…When you and your prog friends trace some of YOUR bigotry against conservatives.
I was a liberal before they adopted the moniker “progressive”. I found the programs strated with good intention by progs were often dismal failures with the exception of Head Start. But those programs continued nonetheless. I found the sneering intolerance of secular humanist superior to any Christian or Jew. The progressive movement has done much to elevate the absurd and/or deviant to the level of normalcy.
I like many different types of people – and dislike others. I try to be polite to all I meet. But while I appreciate your constructive criticsm I have noticed a deafening silence from the LEFT in terms of the bigotry and filth that is often posted here. I say what I mean directly (or though sarcasm and irony) and appreciate this forum for the opportunity to present an alternative view.
June 27th, 2006 at 4:18 pm“…and resort to namecalling or saying something rude…You ought to try it, cockbreath”
I spit coffee everywhere. Perfectly timed and sublimely aimed when considering referring to such an indivdual as “cockbreath” is just a simple observation, not namecalling. Great troll-shot!
June 27th, 2006 at 4:19 pmSponge – I agree with I-R-I 80% of the time. That’s 5% more than I agree with Mr. Aphrodite. We call it a “difference of opinion”.
June 27th, 2006 at 4:21 pmDemocrats should start a public boycott of the Faux News channel to draw attention to their biased ‘reporting’.
Maybe if it was just hardcore republicans 24/7, it would be more obvious what they are about – SPIN and attack.
In my opinion, any Democrat who goes onto that network in any capacity, is a cog in the propaganda machine.
June 27th, 2006 at 4:26 pmI too was very upset with Brian Kilmeade because I think that the press has a duty to allow yahoos like Levin spout through their talking points BEFORE they shoot them down. Levin hardly had a chance to work Karl Roves name into the discussion before Brian cut him off. Also he never got a chance to blame the rest of the vast right wing conspirators (Carlyle group, Halliburton, Etc.). Shame on you Brian and next time you have one of the Grand Wizard 3rd level Mo0b@t+5 on let them at least finish his talking points blaming Bush and praising Cuba.
June 27th, 2006 at 4:30 pmDemocrats should start a public boycott of the Faux News channel
Comment by blonkert — June 27, 2006 @ 4:26 pm
not a good idea… if it’s only repugs, then only repugs get heard…
June 27th, 2006 at 4:30 pmat least a dem or 2 will plant that little seed occasionally…
every little bit…
Just a minute. Haven’t we been critical of the propensity of the media to merely offer opportunities for pols to make accusations and to bloviate and not ask pertinent, critical follow up questions? The Fox moderator–whoever the hell he is–was doing what should be done, I think, even if he’s cheerleading for the GOP.
One would ask however that Fox extend it’s critical eye to those it agrees with and not reserve it for Democrats.
June 27th, 2006 at 4:33 pm123 Mighty Aphrodite
As far as I know, I have no “prog friends” here. Geez, I live in such a red area that I don’t have many “prog friends” at all. And I don’t accept bigotry from my friends either. I’m not surprised, given your response to Moonbat Patrol, that you are a disillusioned liberal. And I agree that many of the liberal solutions have been failures. But isn’t it better to try and fail, than to not try at all? And were the problems in the solutions or in the funding and execution (often linked to funding)?
Could you explain: “I found the sneering intolerance of secular humanist superior to any Christian or Jew”
I also agree with you that some progressives/liberals/lefties on this site can be crude, rude, filthy and should be called on it – which I have seen at times, BTW.
June 27th, 2006 at 4:34 pmMighty Mouth has been caught in his own web of hypocrisy… He’s only offended by things he feels personally about – but cannot apply it to things others feel personally about. Why he can joke about dead children, Katrina Victims, Iraqis slaughtered in war, etc.
Good job PLC of showing him his own reflection in a mirror. Unfortunately, much ike the lower primates, he cannot understand that it is simply himself…
June 27th, 2006 at 4:37 pmWell, considering that 75% of what I-RIGHT-I said was racist, that’s an aweful lot of racism you agree with.
June 27th, 2006 at 4:40 pmI loved the retort: “It was an interview. I let ya talk and I watched ya read.”
Pretty much says it all right there.
June 27th, 2006 at 4:41 pmSpudge,
I think your being awfully generous with your 75% figure on how much of what IRI says is bigoted in some way. He is in a small group of people who have been banned from this board.
June 27th, 2006 at 4:44 pmThe Democratic Party -By Linda Bowles
The base of this party consists of a number of special interest groups, including the sky-is-falling environmentalists, abortion industry workers, bilingualists, illegal immigrants, ideologically homeless ex-communists, communists, convicted felons, unconvicted felons, pornographers posing as artists, propagandists posing as journalists, network anchors posing, food stamp junkies, anti-American multiculturalists, hard-core feminists, abused and abusable women, the venereally diseased, anti-tobacco fascists, anti-religious bigots, latent anti-religious clerics, pro-gay clergy, gay clergy, government employees, union bosses, government contractors, the sexually disoriented, educrats, trial lawyers, the willing poor, drug addicts, old sin New Age atheists, race hustlers, members of the black caucus, professional victims, punk musicians, condom manufacturers, proud and practicing members of the North American Man Boy Love Association and dead people buried near Chicago
June 27th, 2006 at 4:53 pmComment by Brandi — June 27, 2006 @ 4:53 pm
Has no facts, resorts to calling names…
June 27th, 2006 at 4:56 pmROFL,
out of Brandi with an i’s absurd list this is my favorite.
bilingualists. Cause you know anyone who speaks two languages is bad. A close runner up would be punk musicans. However since most of them tend towards anarchy, I don’t think they and “big government democrats” have much in common.
but thanks for the laugh Brandy.
June 27th, 2006 at 4:57 pm“I thought Levin was gonna cry when he couldnt follow his scripted talking points.”
Comment by Brandi — June 27, 2006
WHAT PLANET ARE YOU FROM BRANDI. THE ONLY ONE WHO WAS READY TO CRY WAS BRIAN KILMEADE. YOU MUST BE CONFUSED!
June 27th, 2006 at 4:59 pmThe base of this party consists of …
Comment by Brandi — June 27, 2006 @ 4:53 pm
an EXCELLENT example of a run-on sentence!
and ad-hominem bullshit!
very good, brandi-with-an-i
June 27th, 2006 at 5:02 pm“but i actually have to work for a living so you democrats will have social security when your old….. cheers Dwight”
HEY DWIGHT. YOU JUST DID A TROLL DRIVE BY. YOU COME ON HERE MAKE SOME DUMB COMMENT ABOUT LIBERALS AND THEN YOU CAN’T WAISTE YOU TIME AND YOU’RE A COWARD SO YOU SPLIT.
DWIGHT – COWARDLY TROLL DOING THE DRIVE BY HIT AND RUN COMMENTS STINKING UP THE PLACE WITH MISPLACED ANGER AND SELF MANGLED REASONING.
June 27th, 2006 at 5:05 pmWe are now finally beginning to see some backbone from a variety of influential politicians…It is a measure of how urgent the governmental crisis in the U.S. has become. The Bush Administration, Fox/Newscorp, Halliburton, the pharmeceutical giants, and banks are running the show…just like Eisenhower predicted. Last year Nelson Mandela and other international figures were the only ones speaking out, but no one of consequence here…Now it is prominent Republicans and Democrats alike…which frankly makes the whole thing feel pretty frightening….Five Days in May kinda feeling….Cheney appears on TV and tells us that Bush is “incapacitated” and that he is now in charge…Yikes!
June 27th, 2006 at 5:16 pmI disagree that so called liberals should boycott Fox news, or any other media organization. I also disagree that so called liberals should behave in any way other than with respect to those conducting interviews. It does not matter how others might behave or what the motives of others might be. Standing for truth and representing civility matters. Falling into a trap in which so called liberals begin to act in a manner characterized by the Fox folks is hardly the answer. The answer is continuing to show up any where, any time to speak the truth in a way that honors genuine dialogue. True, many folks watching Fox may not appreciate truth and civility (especially the later it would seem). Yet, some viewers might indeed recognize and appreciate the message and the manner in which the message was delivered. I believe it is that later audience that so called liberals might influence.
June 27th, 2006 at 5:21 pmGood for Levin..
He said just what George Soros pays him to say..
Frank
June 27th, 2006 at 5:39 pmBrandi,
Based on your post, I’m convinced that your father should have bought a condom (from one made by one of the condom manufactures you mentioned in your post) and used it on the day of your conception.
CED
June 27th, 2006 at 5:49 pm#144
Good for Levin..
He said just what George Soros pays him to say..
Frank
Comment by Frank — June 27, 2006 @ 5:39 pm
What we have here, is the perfect example of someone opening their mouth,
June 27th, 2006 at 5:56 pmand having Rush Limpball’s words come out.
Rush by the way, who never served in seved in Viet Nam.
I guess Brian Kilmeade got the memo from Roger Ailes that he won’t accept any slackers over there at Fox, now that their ratings are sliding faster than a penguin on a melting glacier.
http://www.broadcastingcable.com/article/CA6346894.html
“Insiders say that, even though Fox News remains No. 1, Ailes is fuming over the complacency he senses among staffers.
Production values are slipping, and bookers aren’t competitive enough, relying too heavily on the same pool of faces and settling for authors or actors after they’ve already been on CNN or … gasp … MSNBC…”
Gee, maybe because Fox treats its guests like crap and doesn’t let them finish answering questions, then lies about them when they’re off the air.
June 27th, 2006 at 6:13 pmI guess Brian Kilmeade got the memo from Roger Ailes that he won’t accept any slackers over there at Fox, now that their ratings are sliding faster than a penguin on a melting glacier.
http://www.broadcastingcable.com/article/CA6346894.html
“Insiders say that, even though Fox News remains No. 1, Ailes is fuming over the complacency he senses among staffers. Production values are slipping, and bookers aren’t competitive enough, relying too heavily on the same pool of faces and settling for authors or actors after they’ve already been on CNN or … gasp … MSNBC…”
Gee, maybe because Fox treats its guests like crap and doesn’t let them finish answering questions, or lies about them when they’re off the air, or pulls stunts like this one. Ya think?
June 27th, 2006 at 6:15 pmOops sorry for the dupe post.
June 27th, 2006 at 6:16 pm# 106 chill out dingbat and quit using the holocaust card. It’s old and worn out. All I said was guy was a fat old jew. tell me how in the hell that was racist???
June 27th, 2006 at 6:21 pmit fu**ing true!! what the hell is your problem oh hypersensitive one.
That is the real problem with this country. anytime anyone tries to speak freely about how they feel the left wingnut (yeah you are conservative-bullshit!) chorus chimes in and in trying to exclude bigotry is so bigoted themselves they drown out the conversation with thier asinine politcal correctness.
Schumer, Levin, and Feingold in my estimations are scumbags and enemies of America. they just happen to be democrats( I CAN say that can’t I without being labeled racist??) and they happen to be JEWS. I said nothing disparaging of jews so shut the hell up sit the hell down and quit PMSing that somebody dared utter the word (gasp) Jew.. cheeze what a bunch of nutjobs here.
oh yeah George soros, bill & hillary clinton, levin, schumer, kennedy, franken, streisand , feingold NEVER SERVED IN ‘NAM either so just WTF is your point #146. yeah you guys rail against campaign finance reform but worship that left wing commie Soros.. he’s not even an American!!
liberals are such hypocrites, I wonder if they even realize how disillusioned they are.
Fox news is CRAP (Contemptible Reporters Asshole Pundits)
June 27th, 2006 at 6:42 pmA quote from Mr. moonbeam:.
…….”oh yeah George soros, bill & hillary clinton, levin, schumer, kennedy, franken, streisand , feingold NEVER SERVED IN ‘NAM either so just WTF is your point.
I’d be more than happy to debate you, but after reading a few of your posts, you don’t seem to display the intellect needed to compete.
But what the hell, I think your question deserves an answer.
My post is simple. It should be relatively easy to understand, even for someone like yourself who doesn’t know how to spell or use simply punctuation.
Are you ready Mr. Moonbat?
The men and women you mentioned are NOT promoting the war. Hannity and Limbaugh are. That’s “WTF” I’m refering to. Now, do you understand? If not, I’ll be happy to stick around and answer another one of your questions.
Oh, are you the kind of man who would promote the war, but himself be too afraid to actually join the military? No, not you!
June 27th, 2006 at 6:47 pm[...] “Well, thank you for your opinion. But I was hoping this would be an interview of me rather than an interview of you.” – Sen. Levin to Fox News anchor Brian Kilmeade [...]
June 27th, 2006 at 7:08 pmBush worshippers are repulsive. They NEVER use logic or facts to show why they think Bush was right when he let the 9/11 attacks happen without lifting a finger. They lie and deny that he just let it happen.
June 27th, 2006 at 7:16 pmThey also never give true reasons why he still refuses to guard our nuclear power plants or chemical plants. In fact, the mainstream media WON’T EVEN DISCUSS THE TOPIC.
The Bush-worshippers still claim that IT WAS WORTH IT to spend $350,000,000,000 and counting to kill 100,000 Iraqis, who never did anything to us.
One way to instantly tell a Bush-worshipper from a normal person is to read their “writings” and see if they don’t give a logical reason for their claims, but instead call someone a “moonbat.” That magic word somehow translates to mean BUSH IS ALWAYS RIGHT SO THERE IS NO NEED FOR A PERSUASIVE ARGUMENT.
BUSH CULTISTS ARE PATHETIC IMBECILES.
#130 – “Could you explain: “I found the sneering intolerance of secular humanist superior to any Christian or Jew— Comment by PLC
******Gladly – A trifling example may be read in the toxic religious bigotry posted by unbelievable and to a lesser extent, zookeeper, krazny, sponge, etc. They are welcome to believe in nothing more wise than her/himself. Her/his intolerance of other’s faith and beliefs is rather sad and at times pathetic. The secular humanist/atheist movement is self-centered and self-absorbed although they protest such is not the case. Sadly, I have found that many atheists believe as they do to shrug off social and moral mores. A real eye-opener for anyone with a belief in God is a book Paul Kurtz’ edited, “The Humanist Manifesto 2000″. When one bases all their “empirical evidence” on hurt feelings and religious misunderstanding, such evidence lacks empirical value. As a believer in God who believes that God designed the science that is worshipped, I have GREAT sympathy for those who believe in nothing greater than themselves.
June 27th, 2006 at 7:42 pmNow that’s the way these fake reporters from Faux news need to be slapped down and called on their crap. Kudo’s to Senator Levin.
June 27th, 2006 at 7:46 pm#150 – My dear Mr. Batroll – Being fairly new to this blog, I can forgive the fact you know so little about the players here on the playground. You obviously know nothing of my conservative credentials and I certainly wouldn’t want you to over tax that gland in you skull doing ANY research. You may choose to forget the Holocaust as you (thankfully) did not lose family or friends in such a terrible episode. Your comment “quit using the holocaust card. It’s old and worn out,” makes as MUCH sense as, “quit using the Revolutionary War/Civil War/Great Depression card. It’s old and worn out.”
I HATE political correctness as it is a form of censorship but I pity BIGOTS more. Perhaps Mr. Levin could lose a few lbs. At least he has found a better barber.
June 27th, 2006 at 8:02 pmBrandi – I LOVED your concise and accurate description of the Democrat Party base. I was amused when one retort criticized “bilingualism”. NOOOWWW that’s worth a response!
June 27th, 2006 at 8:13 pmFrankly, the fact that some people in America speak two languages does not bother me in the least….but when dealing in business with the public, English please.
Levin is a horse’s ass. Always has been, always will be.
June 27th, 2006 at 8:38 pmdear miz permanent victim: was the holocaust wrong? of course it was. Do you get automatic victimization status because of a realtive? I think not. Is anyone who uses the word jew a nazi, well maybe to you. is anyone who criticizes a jew a nazi?? You seem to think so. Your self described victimization and moral superiority is indicative of the victimization industry in America.
June 27th, 2006 at 8:43 pmMore Russians were killed by stalin & lenin than jews and I have yet to hear of a Russian holocaust.
My grandfather was killed by the nazis fighting in the Italian underground yet I do not consider myself a victim. How many generations is it going to take your family until they do not cash in on the victimization superiority trip?
At least my grandfather fought and did not allow himself or his friends to be blindly led like sheep to the slaughter. maybe that is where I get my obstinate, hard headed, kiss my ass attitude when it comes to victimization. i will fight before I give in or give up. Just like I will not give in to the liberals or anybody else one inch of what i believe in despite the slurs, innuendo, and meanness. i thrive on it. i will fight and not put up with these morons or you claiming moral superiority especially when they or you have none.
take your hypersensitivity and your victimization and put it where the sun don’t shine girl. At least i come from a long line of fighters not victims.
[...] Think Progress has the transcript: [...]
June 27th, 2006 at 8:54 pmRepubs think Bush is not just the American president, they think he is America, . When
they say Dems are bashing American, they mean that Bush is being questioned. They then get the vapors because they are suffering from the Republican Sissy Syndrome.
Remember, the only one to cut and run was Bush in Viet Nahm.
June 27th, 2006 at 9:32 pmAnyone with two brain cells to rub together knows that Fox News [sic] Channel is the Ministry of Propaganda for the Republican Party. Studies have shown over and over again that regular viewers of Fox News [sic] Channel are the least well informed of Americans. In a survey the overwhelming majority of Fox viewers said that Saddam was behind 9/11 and that we had found all the WMD the White House had promised including the nukes. Fox liars never contradict Right-Wing interviewees, but they’ll talk over a Democrat and make false claims while they do it. It’s no wonder Tony Snow, spokesmodel for the Bush Administration, recently called ABC a competing network. Fox? White House? Same thing. He doesn’t even try to hide that. Brian Kilmeade would be fired from a real news agency for editorializing and talking over a guest. He’ll be promoted by Faux News.
http://www.newshounds.us/2006/05/18/tony_snow_suggests_hes_still_with_fox.php
June 27th, 2006 at 9:49 pmThat Kilmeade is a little punk He’s Limbaugh lite, and never let’s anyone he disagrees with finish a sentence. This is the rightwing way, they are some of the dumbest, illogical, ill-informed people to ever be given a platform.
June 27th, 2006 at 9:57 pmI understand that Fox’s ratings are beginning to fall(how’d they ever get up) and nothing make me happier. It’s amazing that an organization can purposely misinform people and be successful at it. But the, churches have done, and do do this all the time.
One of these days Kilmeade is going to get into someones face and then….,
“monbats keep on doin’ watcha doin”
am i wrong or is this french? mon dieu!
June 27th, 2006 at 10:29 pm(not that there’s anything wrong with that, heh)
sounds like you come from a long line of idiots, mondieu patrol
June 27th, 2006 at 10:34 pmMoonbat.
After reading just a few of your posts, I’m convinced you’re nothing but a lot of hot air. You just enjoy winding people up.
As a result, I’ve decided to spend some time debunking your horseshit.
Each time you make a statement that you cannot back up, I’m going to call you on it. You’re way over your head this time Moonbat. I’m more intelligent, I’m more informed, I’m more articulate….and more importantly, I know how to spell.
This is going to be fun. Let’s see if you can wind ME up.
You say you will “fight and not put up with liberal morons”.
June 27th, 2006 at 10:44 pmNow’s your chance to tell the audience Mr. Moonbat. Other then fight liberals on the internet, tell us what else you’ve done to protect your country.
There’s a reason Fox News has been re-branded as Faux News.
June 28th, 2006 at 1:31 amDwight S. said:
“i could give you chapter and verse why your party will lose again.. but i actually have to work for a living so you democrats will have social security when your old….. cheers Dwight”
I remember kids like you when I was growing up in the Bronx, Dwight. They COULD have beaten me up, but they heard their Mom calling them to come in for dinner.
I’m sure you were *going* to join the military so you could fight the Satan-loving A-rabs but you had a hangnail the day your buddy was going to drive you to the recruiting station. Just like Rush Limbaugh who *would* have joined up if it wasn’t for that pesky anal cyst.
Guys like you make me laugh…really hard. I’ll bet you don’t even realize what a coward you truly are. Denial is funny to watch.
June 28th, 2006 at 2:58 amBullshit. You are a lifelong conservative if I ever saw one, hell for that matter you subscribe precisely to what the English term a “Tory Woman.” Pretending to be a convert is a very old and dishonest trick, I for one am not falling for it.
June 28th, 2006 at 5:03 amUnfortunately Fox is not alone….NBC & CNN are in a struggle to sink as low
June 28th, 2006 at 5:04 amWell, Sen. Levin was right to say that.Everyone knows that FOX (fake) NEWS does that crap.It may have been sarcastic,but it was true.
June 28th, 2006 at 7:37 amTo Moonbat Patrol
June 28th, 2006 at 8:34 amIf referring to “jew” in your post was not intended as an insensitive or bigoted comment, why was it included at all?
Re: moonbat patrol comment – “just another fat old jew democrat pissed off because his party is no longer in power and never will be again until they loose the yellow stripe up their spines (whats left of their spines).
who really cares other than moonbats what this old fart says?? I damn sure don’t.
but PLEASE keep it up you left wingnut democrats! you did more to help the republicans stay in power than ALL the commericals, speeches, debates etc.
with the Levin- Feingold- schumer- scumbag nutjobs joining the ranks of Sheehan ( possibly the queen moonbat),Michael Moore. that unfunny jew-dork Al Franken, babs streisand, and other hollweird scum they are in good comapany.
please, please ,monbats keep on doin’ watcha doin’!!
Comment by moonbat patrol — June 27, 2006 @ 1:13 pm
June 28th, 2006 at 8:42 amNow we know you are a NAZI 45lphi
Carl Levin takes on the Bush flaks at Fox…
Sen. Carl Levin did the damned thing on Fox the other day, taking on one of the president’s many protectors at the “fair and balanced” network….
June 28th, 2006 at 9:05 amWhen searching for cogent discussion of a political nature, I seldom seek out individuals with the nom de plume “Brandi with an i”. Now, when I need to secure entertainment for the next bachelor party, I’ll look you up.
June 28th, 2006 at 9:22 amI thought Levin could’ve broke out with the sarcasm even earlier than he did. When you listen to Kilmeade trying to end the interview with his “final word” gravitas hoping Levin would just go away, Levin simply cannot put up with it anymore. It is an absolute travesty that interviews are held with this type of agenda-driven news. Fox should be ashamed of themselves, regardless of political viewpoints.
June 28th, 2006 at 9:26 am[...] Carl Levin shows that at least one Democrat has a spine. Even if only during the last few seconds of interview on Fox. Democrats, that’s what’s called “a start”. [Think Progress] [...]
June 28th, 2006 at 9:36 amThe enablers who work for Fox News are nothing more than Bush whores-it is the equivalent of a Republican cathouse!!!!!!
June 28th, 2006 at 9:52 amI will only say that I did serve my country and have an honorable discharge, the rest is none of anybody’s business.
June 28th, 2006 at 10:45 amI find the typical liberal moonbat response. Bash Bush, Rush, Fox, ant conservative that dares diverge fron the liberal goosestep. How about all the liberals here who ask of my service- how about YOUR service other than call “nazi” anybody that disagrees with you what the hell have any of you here done??
# 174 who died and left you the arbiter of “sensitivity”?? who the hell are YOU to judge me??
but your name says it all liberal soldier – like I said before that inplies a moonbat in a chicken suit.
all you who hypocritically claim tolerance andal that crap are the most intolerant and bigoted group of small minded bigots I have ever seen. You are like the liberal-progressive KKK. I have really never seen such hypersensitive , nasty, judgemental morons before. If anything anyone from outside these posts reading them would discern that progressives are mentally delusional, immature, foolish little people.
I reiterate my past plea. PLEASE keep doing what you are doing and show yourselves to America. It will guarantee for all times that you will never have any politcal power again. You may have a few tires old liberals spouting liberal bullshit but Like levin and others they will have no power and outside of moonbat forums here nobody will listen
good job moonbats!
181 Moonbat Patrol
Again, I ask you why you chose to identify anyone as a jew (post 38). You’ve blown a gasket and in a “hypersensitive” manner have protest being called on this. What you haven’t done is explain why you identify anyone as a jew. Would you be offended or question someone’s reason if they identified Bush as a christian when criticizing his actions? I would have the same question for that person as I do for you. That does not make me an “arbitrer of sensitivity”. It makes me an advocate of reason. Instead of trying to label me, how about providing me an answer.
June 28th, 2006 at 11:07 am#171 – “Bullshit. You are a lifelong conservative if I ever saw one, hell for that matter you subscribe precisely to what the English term a “Tory Woman.†”
ANOTHER insightful comment by Bruce
******Naturally, you’re incorrect – but why change NOW? At one time, I admired the committment and compassion of the Left – until I looked behind the curtain and saw ithat politics is all about POWER – and what values one wanted that power to uphold.
June 28th, 2006 at 12:36 pmAs an idealistic young person, I became DISGUSTED the way my former party and the Left pilloried an old man, Ronald Reagan, about AIDS. NEVER criticizing the slutty behaviour, etc. that launched AIDS off the platform, protesting the proposed closure of San Franciscan “bath-houses” was the heigth of irresponsibility and buck-passing. Some gay activists actually breathed a sigh of RELIEF (how twisted is that?) when heteros and transfusion patients started to be affected. THOSE patients would take the onus off THEM.
I became saddened that many on the Left despise America. A country founded on high ideals by imperfect men, this nation has confronted some of it’s inequities head on and become the better for it. Plessy v. Ferguson was the core of continued educational segregation and was thankfully overturned by persistent liberals.
I am not an advocate for the death penalty – in my line of work, I see honest mistakes. The uneven application of this permanent punishment is very disturbing.
Formerly pro-choice, I realized that abortion is used mostly as a back up for failed birth control. Women’s convenience is not superior to a tiny baby’s life.
I became disturbed by the “freaks running the show”. Moral relativism, while sounding kind and accepting, is neither.
I found the majority of the Left denigrated the importance of fathers. Talk to inmates in prison and you will be stunned at the numbers raised by overworked or never-worked single mothers. It is heart breaking. (I believe the increase in numbers in violent youthful offenders is DIRECTLY linked to the spike in out-of-wedlock births.)
With an “anything goes” mentality – EVERYTHING usually does.
MA references Paul Kurtz? Now there’s a surprising sign of intelligence from a Bushie.
A more relevant book on Religion is Sam Harris’ “The End of Faith”. You can believe or not believe as you see fit, but keep your respective myths the hell out of politics.
June 28th, 2006 at 12:48 pm#182 I do not owe you any response, who the hell are you to question my speech or any contents thereof? Is free speech only for liberals? only for those that are politically correct? only thise who agre with you ??
June 28th, 2006 at 1:17 pmyou complain about me labeling you but yet with typical liberal hypocrisy you find it natural and acceptable to label me because I dared used the word (gasp) jew. Levin is a jew. I know in your feeble liberal mind that you are trying depserately to find the nazi connection to anything anybody who does not toe the politcally correct goosestep says.
you are most certainly not an advocate of reason as you so glowingly refer to yourself as. You are a liberal witch hunter looking for a conseravtive to burn at the stake for speaking his mind.
binomial nomeneclature is how scientists name things . Everything no matter how small or large is defined in language by it’s name.
how I choose to speak is protected under the first ammendment and I excercise that right to say anything I want when I want , to who I want and how I want with no explanation neccessary.
I am an old white guy. thats who i am. levi is liberal jew that’s who he is and you are a PC liberal hypocrite- and that is who you are.
Clear example of Faux news dipshit appealing to its trailer trash audience.
June 28th, 2006 at 1:35 pmmighty aphrodite
Like I said, you were never a liberal.
Did you ever ask the gays why AIDS becoming a wider issue was a relief to them? Probably because they knew that so long as it was just the “Degenerate” homosexuals who had it, no effort was going to be made to cure it. When it was a “Gay thing” it was seen by many on the right as being a solution to a eternal problem, as a punishment by god on those who did not subscribe to his teachings (and yes, I have come across this argument) and as a issue to do with “Slutty behaviour.”
I have seen the rightwing white guys say the same thing about AIDS in Africa, its a solution.
You accuse the left of moral relativism? Tell me, who has accepted that the US constitution only applies in peace time? Not the leftwing.
You state that abortion is wrong, but you do not support helping unwed mothers, or improving funding for public education and foster care. You claim that a father is highly important, and I agree a father is, but you forget about abusive relationships, or “Deadbeat dads” who ditch their pregnant girlfriends. Indeed you actually argue in one paragraph that unwed mothers raise a lot of criminals, right after your statement on abortion being wrong.
You are a lifelong rightwinger. Admit it.
June 28th, 2006 at 1:40 pmPoor Li’l Brian. He must get tired of playing Butthead to Steve Dorky’s Beavis. I saw him completely discombobulate while interviewing Cynthia McKinney a coulpe months back. What a clown. It was embarrassing.
June 28th, 2006 at 1:57 pmBluedog49
Excellent point.
June 28th, 2006 at 2:00 pm185 Moonbat Patrol
June 28th, 2006 at 2:30 pm1. I agree, you don’t “owe” me any response.
2. I support your right to speech.
3. I also reserve my right to speech.
4. You are posting on a public, progressive blog discussion site, giving implicit
permission to me and others to question your comments.
5. I did not label you for using “jew” in a post. Others did, you denied any bigotry,
and then I simply asked why you used the term, then. A simply admission that
it had nothing to do with the rest of your content or an explanation would have
satisfied me (I know, you don’t exist to satisfy me)
6. I’m done.
#184 – “MA references Paul Kurtz? Now there’s a surprising sign of intelligence from a Bushie. A more relevant book on Religion…” – comment from nanlich
***** “A more relevant book on Religion….”(???) I was referencing the non-religion of intellectual elitists. (The fact you and others choose to believe as you do is none of my business. KEEP your “beliefs” out of politics….)
#187 – “Maybe you can explain how feeling you have a personal relationship with the creator of the universe is NOT self-involved. ” – Comment by Bluedog49
***** I suppose acknowledgement of One infinitly greater than one-self could be termed “self-involved” – but I believe humility is a better term.
#189 – Dear Bruce – Some people have a difficult time digesting what they have read so I will clarify my earlier points for a few minutes. From your post:
“Did you ever ask the gays why AIDS becoming a wider issue was a relief to them?”
****** Go back and read the AIDS premise and THEN come back and tell me where ANYTHING I said about the plight of the gay community is wrong. Where you and I disagree: many urban homosexuals were not willing to take recommended steps to slow the transmission of the disease. How twisted to be happy that other demographic groups become infected to lessen your own angst.
Back to Bruce – “I have seen the rightwing white guys say the same thing about AIDS in Africa, its a solution.”
******* WHO said such an awful thing?
More from Bruce – “You accuse the left of moral relativism? Tell me, who has accepted that the US constitution only applies in peace time? Not the leftwing.”
******** This statement is a pitiful stretch and completely irrelevant. (This premise might have fit more logically in countering my leftist anti-American argument…but you were grasping at straws and this statement proves it.) Examples of LEFTIST moral relativism:
Defending a mother’s right to abort and NEVER mentioning the valuable, unselfish concept of adoption.
The medicalization of deviance. (This began with attorneys proposing Dan White’s “Twinkie Defense” during his murder trial in San Francisco.)
Your ignorance about what I do to support unwed mother’s would be stunning if it did not expose your abundant stupidity. I donate money and my professional services to several homes for unwed mothers. (Perhaps your only contribution to unwed mothers was making them one in the first place.)
About abusive relationships and deadbeat Dads. I think both are despicable. But lets be honest, most people these days have sex first and talk later. Rarely does someone suddenly become an abusive boyfriend. There is often small signs which offer indications of potentially increasing abuse – sadly some women ignore the signs or try to change Mr. Wrong. THAT was his parents’ job – not hers. WOMEN must choose better MEN!! Most solid citizens who get up, go to work, pay their bills, don’t abuse drugs or alcohol don’t become deadbeat Dads. I am sure we have watched perfectly nice men and women choose the same type of “thrilling” or “sexy” boyfriends and girlfriends again and again. I didn’t need to get bit twice by a snake to know it hurt. When a new snake slithers up, send it packing
I do not argue that abortion is a method to curtail crime as a Dr. Morganthaler of Canada argues. If women had higher moral standards there would be fewer illegitimate births. Adoption is the best and most viable solution. In cases of rape or incest, I am a huge proponent of immediate dilation and curettage.
I’m not a saint – but I have seen some of the saddest situations occur because of stupid choices.
I suspect you’ve been a lefty all your life – the tip off was your equating the theoretical and hypothethical with personal morality. (It is, and was, a classic leftist arguing device.)
‘tol much later……..
June 28th, 2006 at 2:40 pmBluedog – Please read my comment to Bruce – it addresses most of your DNC talking points. But to your other talking tidbits:
#190 -”I see. So now, as a “small-government conservative,†you think the government should force women to carry a pregnancy against their will. Interesting.
Comment by Bluedog49
*****A completely specious argument – but maybe you knew that… Government doesn’t allow me to kill others (other than in self-defense). It doesn’t allow me to neglect my children. I think women – who have the power sexually – should be MUCH more particular in their choices. Freedoms are not absolute, but you knew that…
#191 – “The rate of out-of-wedlock births follows the poverty rate.” – Blueboy
*****Blue – YOU are COMPLETELY WRONG. In 1960, when black poverty was significantly higher, the black illegitimacy rate was 7%. The rate for whites was slightly below 5%. With the black illegitimacy rate hovering at 70% and whilte illegitimacy rate at 37%, declining moral values should be blamed for out of wedlock births. If $$$ alone was the answer to curing poverty, there should be NO MORE peverty as we have spent more money on entitlement programs than we have on defense since 1965. It is not simply a lack of $$$ – it is a lack of character and culture.
#193 – “At what age does it become unseemly to criticize a President of the United States for his policies? If a President is too old to be criticized, is he or she qualified to be President?” -comment by dog
*****Bluedog Gorton – CONGRATS!! YOU have passed the PROG test. (ie. Never argue the argument – deflect.. and then deflect some more,….) The AIDS community BLAMED a President of the US for the disease caused by THEIR aberrant behaviour. That’s more than a little twisted – but it is a perfect example of modern progressivism. Criticize Star Wars or the Evil Empire remark – but assume responsibility for your own behaviour….if you’re capable…
Gotta run….
June 28th, 2006 at 2:59 pmSome gay activists, figured that with the advent of AIDS spreading to straight people, something would get done about it. It was not a matter of taking the onus off of anybody. I know gay people, and where I live they are a shit sight more careful about AIDS then most straight people I know. That is why the bulk of people in South Africa with AIDS are straight.
Here is the leftist morality on abortion: Abortion is a last resort. It it is not something anybody ever does lightly, however, in a society where there are limited resources, where not all children get adopted, and where there is a definite stigma attached to being a single mother (that would be you and all of your preaching about slutty behaviour) it is better to have the abortions legal and safe then to have them done in back alleys with wire coat hangers. Abortion will always exist, the question is, how can we can limit the harm it does.
Very comendable, if you actually do it. Personally I don’t think you actually do, your lack of empathy more then gives me doubts about the veracity of your claim, after all aren’t they all just sluts who should have chosen better men?
June 28th, 2006 at 3:20 pmRegardless of the rest of Fox News, I think BK’s commenting on Levin’s last answer and spinning it with his opinion is irresponsible journalism. Even if his comment had been favorable towards the Dems, it still would be irresponsible. If he’s going to make a comment like that, it should only be to play devil’s advocate (thus prefaced with an introduction like, ‘But so and so says…’), and should not have been said at the end of the interview when Levin could not respond. It’s the mark of a bad journalist, conservative or liberal.
June 28th, 2006 at 4:56 pmRegardless of the rest of Fox News, I think BK’s commenting on Levin’s last answer and spinning it with his opinion is irresponsible journalism. Even if his comment had been favorable towards the Dems, it still would be irresponsible. If he’s going to make a comment like that, it should only be to play devil’s advocate (thus prefaced with an introduction like, ‘But so and so says…’), and should not have been said at the end of the interview when Levin could not respond. It’s the mark of a bad journalist, conservative or liberal.
In addition, #38, do you call Senators Arlen Specter or Norm Coleman, both of whom are good Jews, ‘old jew republicans’? Shame on you for highlighting your anti-semitic views while trying to discredit those of the other party.
June 28th, 2006 at 4:59 pmNo. 38 is nothing but a troll.
Ignore him people. He’s just a little wap who likes to to rant and he has a forum to do it. I’ll bet if nobody responds to him again, he’ll turn his PC off and go outside and play.
June 28th, 2006 at 5:48 pmLevin is just like all Democrats – everyone elses opinions are not as good as theirs, and if they are different they dont want to hear them.
Reading all your comments, it is pretty clear why you guys are out of power.
June 28th, 2006 at 7:11 pm#199- good
June 28th, 2006 at 7:43 pm#207- spoken like a true moonbat! i may be a troll but I am right! and you took the time above all other posts here to respond soley to my post so maybe it’s time you turned off your computer and go play in traffic.
#204 – “….leftist morality on abortion. It it is not something anybody ever does lightly, however, in a society where there are limited resources, where not all children get adopted, and where there is a definite stigma attached to being a single mother…”
******I believe many abortions are very traumatic for the mothers. But there are some women for whom such a procedure is a huge relief and is a matter of convenience. Here are a few of the reasons I have personally heard over the years from women who obtained legal abortions: Failed birth control, parents who would be disappointed, “damaged” baby, an affair gone bad, a promotion at work, selective abortion of a triplet or quadruplet, an affair with a married man….and my personal all-time favourite – a vacation which “could not be interrupted”.
Your assertion regarding the “definite stigma attached to being a single mother” is…..where?? Not among our secular humanists and atheists, our suburban neighbours, Hollywood, sophisticated Europeans, or residents of America’s inner cities. Where is the stigma?
“Very comendable, if you actually do it. Personally I don’t think you actually do, your lack of empathy more then gives me doubts about the veracity of your claim,” – Comment by Bruce Gorton
June 28th, 2006 at 7:43 pm******You are free to think as you wish. But really, your opinion of me is none of my business.
Interesting – minus the condescending tone I actually COULD be MA. Yet I am a moderate registered as a democrat and who NOW wouldn’t vote GOP for anything after what I have witnessed the past 3 years. The country is being raped by this administration. Children left behind. No real “protection” from the “bad guys” but lots of debt for my children to inherit.
I do not at all disagree with a good number of her points although her data is not cited and yes, poverty, the parental substance abuse and lack of education are also factors linked with the advent of criminal behavior.
It sounds like she wants to legislate “correct decisions” – which is an admirable attempt to solve all that is bad and wrong. It just sounds very nanny state to me. I’, not a big fan of the nanny state whenit over-reaches, although paying attention when a category 4 hurricane is headed to a non-swing-state would be helpful for all involved.
I am stuck on MA’s verbage regarding abortion: if it is rape/incest then the word killing is not used, anything else- you are killing!! I am all for adoption as a solution to unwanted pregnancies – but if you are against abortion because it is murder thenuse the same term when describing abortions. If it is killing in X case it is killing in Y case- but you will just support that kind of Y killing.
Actually, we all do it…that is why moral relativism is is a bunch of bunk that is thrown around to make the thrower look so superior.
MA, your beliefs are admirable, not even THAT far from my own, but they certainly are not what the GOP stands for. If you feel comfortable there then that’s great. But I have to answer to God one day and after the past 3 years….it’s a vote for pure evil.
June 28th, 2006 at 7:57 pm#208 -“The AIDS community BLAMED a President of the US for the disease caused by THEIR aberrant behaviour.â€
‘Right. I’m sure every person with AIDS thought they got it because of Reagan. Talk about a “straw man.†Please don’t play dumb. Nobody blamed Reagan for the disease. They blamed him for the inexcusable delays in dealing with the disease’
Comment by BlueDAWG.
******* Your straw dog accusation is laughable. I never heard ONE spokesperson for the gay community speak about behaviour before 1987. But you did hear them shriek about Reagan. After the dust had settled and researchers studied the self-mutating virus, tons of money were provided by government and private sources intent on finding a cure and alleviating the suffering of those stricken. Your expectation of an instantaneous response neglects to consider the realities of medical research or narrowing the method of disease transmission – BUT it does point to your EXTREMELY impatient manner SO common these days….
You adroitly blur the argument between abortion, illegitimacy and poverty, which was not your previous stance. Nothing has changed from your original refutation and now. Poverty did NOT contribute to black or white illegitimacy in 1960 when poor people had far fewer resources. (That is not to say that there were not a number of “6 month babies”, but their parents GOT married.) YOU can repeat your misinformation till you are BLUE in the face and that won’t change the facts. The ONLY researchers who back up your claim are the biased group at the Alan Guttmacher Institute.
Not surprisingly, YOU are WRONG when you say I “condemn” women who have had abortions. I sincerely pity them – and that is a far cry from condemnation.
June 28th, 2006 at 8:02 pmI sincerely pity them – and that is a far cry from condemnation.
Comment by mighty aphrodite — June 28, 2006 @ 8:02 pm
Pitying from your perch does little. Try praying.
June 28th, 2006 at 8:04 pmWhy are the Democrats not boycotting the Right Wing Talking Points network? Don’t they know that by just being on the programs this network produces they give tacit credibility to the network?
If they would boycott this network in mass, it would make a statement. I don’t watch the right wing programs or the idiot talking heads anyway, so I would not be missing anything if the Dems just did not show up.
June 28th, 2006 at 9:52 pmAm I the only one who thinks of a modern-day Ben Franklin every time I see Levin? (And kudos to Levin for getting in the last word to the Shrill O’Really wannabe Kilmeade).
June 29th, 2006 at 12:17 am# 217 you must be all i see when i look at him or any liberal is the urge to puke. He looks more like Golda Miere (sp?) or helen thomas in reverse drag.
June 29th, 2006 at 9:09 amI also see someone who has been living on the public dole for 30 years who is very upset America voted his party out of power.
Ben Franklin … if that was so we would still be British subjects.
Its very funny to watch you bloated butt heads implode over Fox News. Stop watching it you stupid idiots. Im sure there are many shows Levine could go on and be lobed a bunch of candass questions with no rebutel kind of like the free ride Al Gore has gotten on his stupid ass global warming tour. If that lying dumb ass Dan Rather were still on the news you could watch his B.S. oh I forgot he resigned in disgrace
July 1st, 2006 at 5:43 pmJust browsed this blog, and after reading some of the comments, turned to the “terms of use”. Has anyone ever read it? “You agree not to:
July 27th, 2006 at 9:30 am• Post any messages or provide links to any messages that endorse or oppose a particular political party or candidate for office.” WHAT A JOKE!!!!!!!