Comments on: Murtha Attacked by the Right For Quote Falsely Attributed to Him

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By: NEAL

NEAL — Wed, 16 Aug 2006 04:31:42 +0000

Bes plan?

Redeploy Mullah Murtha to Okinawa!

By: chancuff

chancuff — Wed, 12 Jul 2006 18:16:27 +0000

Despite an email warning to Mr. Pasco to contact Sharon Rosenhause, Managing Editor at the Sun-Sentinel, irey.com continues to maintain this page.

“Is Murtha channeling Marty McFly? Congressmanâ€™s June 27 press release magically includes information from â€¦ June 28?”

http://www.irey.com/news/Read.aspx?Id=61

In my email exchange with Mr. Pasco yesterday he attempted to float this clever headline with me in an email. I responded to him with this:

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If you really want to follow this “rapid crash journalism” course of action of yours, let me assist you in doing so properly. This is John Murtha’s original press release issued by Cindy Abram on June 27th.

http://theinfozone.net/PDFfiles/MurthaPressRelease.pdf
…
You can understand why Cindy Abram updated Mr. Murtha’s press release from the 27th now, I presume. After all, most would conclude that the Sun-Sentinel, who created this mess to start with, was in a better position to fix what Elizabeth Baier broke than theinfozone.net.

Please note: Ms. Baier as well as her editor Ms. Rosenhause are recipients of this email.

Mr Pasco(sic), perhaps they will be gracious enough to assist you towards a more lucid understanding of your “Marty McFly” insight.
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Apparently Mr. Bill Pascoe puts more faith in continuing his slander strategy than makes sense.

Ms Rosenhause has her own special part in this. The Sun-Sentinel has removed their retraction … the correction that rewrote the “the shot heard around the world” first paragraph. The Sun-Sentinel has suddenly placed it in their paid archives, removing it from public domain. The only way you will find the unethical rewrite (still in public domain) is through google cache. You may wish to contact her as well.

For the sake of clarity, inquiries regarding THIS turn of events should include the Subject Line: Mr. Bill

Bill Pascoe
bill@irey.com
phone: (724) 258-2300

Sharon Rosenhause
srosenhause@sun-sentinel.com
phone: (954) 425-1200

Cliff Hancuff
The World of Journalism Is Flat, Too

By: James Murray

James Murray — Mon, 03 Jul 2006 16:12:32 +0000

How John Murtha was ‘Framed’

TIZ

By: James Murray

James Murray — Fri, 30 Jun 2006 15:08:30 +0000

The Infozone has updated this morning (June 30th, 2006) featuring Revisionist Journalism

TIZ

By: Think Progress » Murtha Misquote: O’Reilly and Hume Correct the Record, Scarborough and Carlson Stay Silent

Fri, 30 Jun 2006 14:17:58 +0000

[...] Last Sunday, the South Florida Sun-Sentinel reported that Rep. John Murtha said he believed the “American presence in Iraq is more dangerous to world peace than nuclear threats from North Korea or Iran.” The report was quickly seized on by conservative media — including Brit Hume, Bill O’Reilly, Joe Scarborough and Tucker Carlson — to attack Murtha. [...]

By: Curt in NM

Curt in NM — Thu, 29 Jun 2006 16:44:29 +0000

gail bulfin, you really ought to resign. Get your propaganda machine and move to KStreet with the rest of the facists. You people (Liars and Crooks) make me sick

By: Redleg

Redleg — Wed, 28 Jun 2006 21:40:34 +0000

Nikolai,
True the Dems were way too passive prior to the Iraq war resolution. I am still more angry at Bushco than the Dems because Bush is the one who decided to invade. The Dems merely gave him the authorization (although I believe many Dems hoped Bush would use more restraint).

You did hit the nail on the head- many Democrats probably were afraid to oppose Bush because they were concerned about being painted as unpatriotic in the aftermath of 9-11. Bush, Cheney, and Rove effectively used 9-11 to pistolwhip all congressmen and women into supporting the get touch policy re: Iraq.

By: Pat Weller

Pat Weller — Wed, 28 Jun 2006 20:29:43 +0000

It constantly amazes me how easily Americans are duped (by those who have NEVER served in the military) into believing that those who HAVE served in the military are unpatriotic.

As an extension of that problem, it constantly amazes me that veterans don’t stick together to defend their own against such slander.

That’s what our soldiers have to look forward to 20 years down the road (if they survive Iraq) — that they will be called unpatriotic because of their politics???? What a sad legacy from this “new” Republican Party.

By: NCN Daily Mail » Murtha Attacked by the Right For Quote Falsely Attributed to Him

Wed, 28 Jun 2006 20:21:38 +0000

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By: nikolai

nikolai — Wed, 28 Jun 2006 18:07:47 +0000

comment 93; redleg:

You said, “We should all be angry that Bush and his cronies have made a mess of things and that the GOP lackies have greased the wheels and helped all this happen.”

Sure, but we should be even ANGRIER that our Democratic congressmen let it happen as well, under the guise of WMD. I sat and watched this whole debacle unfold on my TV screen, and knew it was BS, why didn’t the Dem senators? The answer is, they DID know, but were afraid to appear “unpatriotic”, or, they had alterior motives of their own. The only senator who really protested was Senator Byrd from West Virginia; little old hillbilly, coal producing West Virginia. So let’s take a look at the bigger picture, shall we? About 99.9% of our politicians, Repubs and Dems alike, are in someone’s pocket. The remaining .1% are senators like Byrd and Murtha. Period.

By: heatherfan

heatherfan — Wed, 28 Jun 2006 17:40:45 +0000

Brian,
I completely agree with your comments about nuance. It does not surprise me that Murtha would take the military side of this issue. I don’t agree with HIS plan for troop withdrawls. I personally think that relocating them to another area in the middle east is not the best plan. Now I’m not a military expert and I respect his opinion. I don’t claim to have the answer to this situation. Getting back to the New York Times story though. I agree that the press should be very aggresive in telling us what the government is up to. I really think this is an important debate. Obviously there is a line, if they had reported the details of troop movements during a war we would all agree that they should face serious consequences. Now I’m not saying what they did is on par with that, what I am saying is there is a line and we need to establish what that line is. I don’t want them prosecuted, although I do think there needs to be some sort of forum for determining what is appropriate for the media to publish and what right the government has to protect it’s operations. So many on the left salivated for over a year at the Valerie Plame leak, yet this time they seem to be taking the side of the Times. I’m not saying everyone has or even that you feel that way. It’s just ironic that the Plame leak was not nearly as serious as this leak and yet because it’s the Times they seem to get a free pass. Of course the person in the Government who leaked this should also be held accountable.

By: Redleg

Redleg — Wed, 28 Jun 2006 17:13:01 +0000

Brian,
I agree with what you say about Murtha but have to add- many Democrats are “anti-abortion.” We would like to see abortions become very rare. It so happens that we also support the woman’s right to choose whether to use birth control and whether to terminate an unwanted pregnancy. The right-wing uses the term “pro-abortion” to incorrectly frame the Democratic position.

By: blaze

blaze — Wed, 28 Jun 2006 17:08:53 +0000

Repugs seem to think that just because Murtha may have asked the NY Times to sit on the financial records story that it is alright to lie about what Murtha said in a speech. Whasup with that?

I also wonder why the Repugs aren’t up in arms against the Wall Street Journal for its reportage regarding the same illegal action. I guess they don’t want to stifle the mouthpiece.

By: Brian Coughlan

Brian Coughlan — Wed, 28 Jun 2006 16:54:42 +0000

Oh sweeeeet irony. â€
Comment by Heatherfan

This is a classical rightwingisim. Nuance of any kind simply short circuits the rightwing brain. Murtha is welcome to his opinion in this as in everything else. Much of what he says I agree with, some of it I donâ€™t.

Perhaps I was overly harsh, the tone of your comment pushed the ol’ hot buttons, I may have been too quick to judge. Now that the record has been set straight regarding Murtha’s comments, can you address my comment about nuance?

Where you really suprised by Murtha’s stance on the “national security” issue? Do you genuinely think that “liberals” would be suprised by his stance on this issue? Also are you aware Murtha is anti-abortion?

Oh yes, he’s quite the conservative really. Looking forward to reading your responses.

By: Krashkopf

Krashkopf — Wed, 28 Jun 2006 16:42:03 +0000

Here is the “Correction” published today by the South Florida Sun-Sentinel:

Corrections and clarifications for June 28

Correction: An article in Sunday’s editions misinterpreted a comment from U.S. Rep. John Murtha, D-Pa., at a town hall meeting in North Miami on Saturday. In his speech, Murtha said U.S. credibility was suffering because of continued U.S. military presence in Iraq ,and the perception that the U.S. is an occupying force. Murtha was citing a recent poll, by the Pew Global Attitudes Project, that indicates a greater percentage of people in 10 of 14 foreign countries consider the U.S. in Iraq a greater danger to world peace than any threats posed by Iran or North Korea.

By: BadgersBite

BadgersBite — Wed, 28 Jun 2006 16:41:45 +0000

The GOP stands for:

G reed
O ppression
P ropaganda

I don’t know why the Dems are not asking everyday why the President thinks he can disobey laws at will. He has signed over 750 signing statements stating just that. Is the President above the law? The founders didn’t think so!!

By: Denny

Denny — Wed, 28 Jun 2006 16:31:44 +0000

# 86-American Patriot:

Long time,no see.Good to have you back.

By: Redleg

Redleg — Wed, 28 Jun 2006 16:22:29 +0000

Heatherfan,
Thanks for the cogent psychoanalysis. I didn’t realize how angry I was but you showed me the light. You and Charles Krauthammer must have studied psychiatry at the same university.

You may not be a right-winger but you sure love to use Ann Coulter’s favorite ad hominem attack: questioning the sanity of a person because you disagree with them. I made several cogent points which you sneeringly ignored in your response to me. If you didn’t understand why I included the information about the pattern of GOP lies then you must be obtuse or willfully ignorant. Perhaps you’re delusional- how’s that for cheap psychoanalysis?

Perhaps I do have some anger, but it is not misplaced or pathological. We should all be angry that Bush and his cronies have made a mess of things and that the GOP lackies have greased the wheels and helped all this happen.

I have read a number of your comments on this thread and others. You claim to be independent of either party but I have discerned a clear pattern of bias against lefties in your posts. Perhaps I am wrong in judging you this way but given your personal attacks against me, I doubt it.