VIDEO: Hatch Says Banning Flag Burning Is ‘The Most Important Thing The Senate Could Be Doing’
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VIDEO: Hatch Says Banning Flag Burning Is ‘The Most Important Thing The Senate Could Be Doing’
On the Senate floor yesterday, Sen. Orrin Hatch (R-UT) said there was nothing the Senate could be doing that was more important than banning flag burning. Watch it:
Is Hatch familar with the Iraq war, terrorism, the energy crisis, the 45 million Americans without health insurance or the 37 million Americans living in poverty?
Transcript:
I was asked this afternoon by a large body of media: Is this the most important thing the Senate could be doing at this time? I can tell you: You’re darned right it is.
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Shut up, Hatch. Imbecile.
June 28th, 2006 at 11:50 amAnother Republican disgrace! Shocking!
June 28th, 2006 at 11:51 amEnd the War for Oil
June 28th, 2006 at 11:52 amHere is David Horsey’s thoughts on the flag burning amendment, and why it is important.
http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/horsey/viewbydate.asp?id=1415
LOL good for a laugh anyway.
June 28th, 2006 at 11:52 amIts called “slight of hand.” Watch what this hand is doing while this one hands away the wealth of the country to special interests.
June 28th, 2006 at 11:52 amOrrin Hatch is the smartest, wisest man on the planet.
Ever
God himself solicits Orrin for advice.
June 28th, 2006 at 11:58 amSen. Orrin Hatch is one of the most corrupt and stupid members of the Senate! The citizens of Utah should be ashamed to have him as their senator! Before this flag burning nonsense came up, he said that stopping Gay marriages was the most important thing for the Senate to debate > lol. ( Note: Mormons who believe in having multiple wives should NOT froth about the santity of marriage, between one man and woman, because they are hypocrites on marriage!)
June 28th, 2006 at 11:58 amThis statement should go on cards that are sent to the families of servicemen and women in Iraq, Katrina refugees, every family without health care and see what happens….probably nothing since this country seems so brain dead to the situation it is in but at least they would have a nice card from a Senator.
June 28th, 2006 at 11:59 amYou know, the most important thing the senate should be doing, is:
Shutdown the Domestic Spying Programs
June 28th, 2006 at 11:59 amHatch is wrong. Banning flag burning doesn’t even rank in Pat Robertson’s Top 5.
June 28th, 2006 at 12:02 pmHere’s something Congress could be doing—upholding the oath of office to preserve, protect and defend the Constitution.
June 28th, 2006 at 12:03 pmIs this Hatch guy for real. I cann’t believe he thinks this is the most important thing.
What about health insurance, energy, gas prices, jobs, the trillions and trillions of taxpayers money we are spending on Iraq, bringing our troops home and so on, and so on. You get the idea.
June 28th, 2006 at 12:04 pmThe most important thing the Senate should be doing is looking for new jobs.
June 28th, 2006 at 12:05 pmBecause if you ban the American flag burning, the terrorists will go home quietly. Is he serious? I’m starting to believe this amendment the repugs were seeking was the beginning of a plot to ultimately destroy the American symbol. Though the amendment was disguised as something that would seem to protect the American symbol, the language they were using in it was very vague. It could have beem applied to any representation of the flag (ie. printed on a bumper sticker, a t-shirt, etc, etc) The plan was first to force Americans to take down the flags, images of the flags, etc, then replace it with the flag on the New American Empire. watch out.
June 28th, 2006 at 12:06 pmORRIN HATCHED!
June 28th, 2006 at 12:06 pmGeeze, we can’t take on issues that might actually help Americans….this is about getting votes in November…to hell with solving problems…we need to get votes!!!
June 28th, 2006 at 12:08 pmIs Hatch familar with the Iraq war, terrorism, the energy crisis, the 45 million Americans without health insurance or the 37 million Americans living in poverty?
Nope. He lives in his own little rich boy’s bubble with only fairytale things allowed inside…
June 28th, 2006 at 12:10 pmSen. Orrin Hatch is one of the most corrupt and stupid members of the Senate! The citizens of Utah should be ashamed to have him as their senator!
Comment by Jay Randal
Have you no compassion? No sympathy? Did it ever dawn on you that he might be the product of Mormon polygamist inbreeding?
June 28th, 2006 at 12:10 pmDoes anyone but me see what’s going on? The Republicans are trying to tie the Senate up in useless debate that only panders to their base until the election. Their hope is that it will whip the religious fundamentalists into a frenzy and they will turn out en-mass to re-elect their Senators.
I think they have, in the words of W, miss-underestimated the intelligence of their base. They figure the average bumpkin from Kansas will see pictures of flags burning and rush to the polls. Well I drove through Kansas recently with a “Impeach W†sticker on my bumper. I was stopped numerous times, not by outraged locals, but by locals who gave me the thumbs-up or personally told me they agreed.
Let’s hope that translates to a Democratic Congress in November.
June 28th, 2006 at 12:11 pmI was asked this afternoon by a large body of media: Is this the most important thing the Senate could be doing at this time? I can tell you: You’re darned right it is.
Damn straight! And Harriet Miers is still the most qualified person for the Supreme Court!
June 28th, 2006 at 12:13 pmwell, harry reid, the bastard, voted for it…
June 28th, 2006 at 12:14 pmYou’re doin’ a heck of a job Hatchy!
June 28th, 2006 at 12:15 pmYour tax dollars at work. Jesus guys.
June 28th, 2006 at 12:15 pmOn the raging controversy over the judiciary, Robertson claimed that judges are a greater threat to the United States than Al Qaeda. He stated that only Christians and Jews should be judges and in essence called Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg a communist.
That Pat Robertson, such a pillar of the “moral majority” (who are rarely moral, and only by complete accident).
What a crack pot!
June 28th, 2006 at 12:16 pmY’know, listening to the repukes speak makes me want to burn my flag.
June 28th, 2006 at 12:16 pmSure there is no need for something like Ethics reform. That not important to the American people.
June 28th, 2006 at 12:18 pmHow about we trade. I’m okay with banning flag burning if you repugs let us restore all civil rights that have been removed since 9/11, restore due process for gitmo detainees, roll back all of Bush’s tax cuts, keep the estate tax in effect, STOP trying to dismantle social security, mandate lower emissions from new vehicles and all factories, finish rebuilding New Orleans, appoint an independent non-paritsan group to reorganize FEMA, the FDA, and the EPA, at least DISCUSS socialized medical care, and lock Cheney in a box. What did I miss?
June 28th, 2006 at 12:18 pm19. Apparently the only states that have bush at slightly over 50% favorable, are Idaho, Wyoming, and Utah (I believe).
June 28th, 2006 at 12:19 pmThere is seriously something wrong with Orrin Hatch — other than being really stoopit.
#7 - Jay, not all Mormons are like that. The polygamists are extra whacko, truly scary, fundamentist Mormons. (FLDS)
June 28th, 2006 at 12:19 pmI don’t a lot of time to blog lately, so I will be short:
F*ck Hatch.
June 28th, 2006 at 12:19 pm#19 I think you are on to something.
The Republicans want to bring debates up so they will win in November.
The Dems need to win both houses in November so we can take our America back.
Impeach Old Bushie and his Admin.
June 28th, 2006 at 12:20 pmthe flag is the last refuge of the scoundrel .This is all these people have left to rally the base ,the flag and the ammendment on gay marriage both which had no chance of passing the senate .Despite the Dems adroit PR move in almost passing it .Now what we really need is an amendment to safe guard what the flag used to stand for ,integrity,ethics,liberty tolerance and the right not to be spied on by a fascist gov’t !This ones long overdue !
June 28th, 2006 at 12:20 pmAnd the most important thing the American people can do is VOTE THESE IDIOTS OUT!
June 28th, 2006 at 12:21 pm#30 - Well said, For Truth, well said. *applause*
June 28th, 2006 at 12:23 pmSorry, this whole flag burning bullshit isn’t even making it past my republican parents. They see this as a big fat waste of time. So, no this does not pander to their base. It is costing them votes.
June 28th, 2006 at 12:24 pmbetter late than never… i’ll try this thread also:
what kind of “troubleâ€, except to myself, would ensue if i hung my flag on the 4th, as usual, EXCEPT UpSideDown…? i understand that means “distress†- would it be WRONG to do so at that time?
June 28th, 2006 at 12:26 pmseriously - any thoughts, suggestions about that idea?
Another tool in Bush’s box. What a friggin’ senate full of boobs and clowns.
-GSD
June 28th, 2006 at 12:28 pmMy new bosses at PBS agree. We need divisive issues because our national security absolutely depends on us keeping the American people distracted so we can hold on to power, and gain more.
Can you imagine the left and right uniting for a common cause? That would be a disaster for Republicans!
June 28th, 2006 at 12:29 pmun-f’in believable!!!
But you know what? After all of this pandering to their base, the Reppupetcan’s will use this to bash the hell out of those soft-assed, scared to speak out, supposedly opposition party (except the great Mr. Murtha and mr. Fiengold).
At a time when we don’t know what the hell we’re doing in Iraq, the Taliban is getting stronger, New orleans is still unhabitable, millions are without healthcare, we still don’t know who outed Ms. Plame, Hookergate, Gannon-Guckert Gate, you know what forget it, these fools get away with whatever they want and the press and the Democrats let em do it.
Un-Fin’ believable
RIP
SGT Stephen R. Sherman
C CO 1-5 Inf
KIA
Mosul, Iraq
03 Feb 06
Or as Tony Snow and the Reppuetcans would say
June 28th, 2006 at 12:31 pm#1462
I have no problem with a law, amendment,or whatever that protects THE United States flag. But, I’m unsure which flag that might be - the one Betsy Ross made? The one that inspired Francis Scott Key? The flag that flew at the WH the day Bush took office? Let me know there Mr. Hatch but if I decide I want to burn MY flag on MY property to protest something about MY government I retain MY right to do so.
June 28th, 2006 at 12:33 pmHatch needs to close his hatch before the waves hit….Just another dumb sob full of himself and all the taxpayers money……..Blessings, we realy need them…
June 28th, 2006 at 12:33 pmBanning flag burning isn’t enought protection for such a sacred symbol. We need a constitutional ammendment to stop people from wiping their ass with the flag as well. It is THE most important thing that the Senate can debate right now.
June 28th, 2006 at 12:33 pmThe only reason I can think of that Democrat Senate leader Harry Reid voted for the Flag protection amendment is because he is Mormon too?! There are 3 Republican Mormon Senators and one Democrat Mormon Reid! Mormons tend to be flag worshippers amoung other odd behaviors > lol.
I am a Democrat, but I believe that Harry Reid should resign as Minority leader in the Senate and let Dick Durbin replace him!
June 28th, 2006 at 12:34 pmobama mccain another filthy turncoat…well, maybe he will just slip into harry reid’s position as ‘leader’:
June 28th, 2006 at 12:34 pmPost 44 > Sen. Obama hangs around with Sen. Hillary Clinton too much and her stupidity has apparently rubbed off onto him! Very sad because he could have been a president or at least a VP someday! He also recently defended Sen. Lieberman who is a certified Democrat traitor!
June 28th, 2006 at 12:40 pmI disagree james, the republicans have succesfully painted democrats and liberals, and haters of christianity. keep in mind that a majority of this country considers themeselves Christian. Dispelling the myth of the liberal war on Christians would help in the november elections, and in the upcoming years.
June 28th, 2006 at 12:42 pmSen. Barack Obama chastised fellow Democrats on Wednesday for failing to “acknowledge the power of faith in the lives of the American people,†and said the party must compete for the support of evangelicals and other churchgoing Americans.
Comment by james risser
Well, good luck on that one, Obama. Idaho and Utah are the two most Mormon states in the union. And the most pro-Bush republican. It’ll be a cold day in their long-john underwear before the elders in those states allow their flocks to vote for a democrat.
June 28th, 2006 at 12:45 pmHatch is stupid and corrupt - a perfect repugnican.
June 28th, 2006 at 12:46 pmi’m with you on that krazny… rham emanuel seems to be the big push bhind that and i’m ok with it - AS LONG AS the dems push the moral issues that we stand for and point out the HYPOCRISY of the repugs…
June 28th, 2006 at 12:49 pm46 Krazny
June 28th, 2006 at 12:53 pmI agree with your position on overcoming the perception that progressives are waging a war on Christian. Thus my moniker. Unfortunately, there are progressives who are agnostic or atheist and do belittle Christianity and, to some extent, Christians. On the other hand, the religious right has done a pretty good job of belittling Christianity as well. In my fantasy, no law or political policy would be solely based on any religious value but be entirely secular - I think this protects, rather than threaten, religious belief.
These Republicans live in another universe!
June 28th, 2006 at 12:54 pm“Hi you have reached For Truth, sorry I missed your call, I will be out of town on vacation until July 10th, leave a message and I will get back to you when I return, if this is an emergency, hang up and become politically active.”
June 28th, 2006 at 12:54 pmkicking Murtha out of office should come in ahead of flag burning
June 28th, 2006 at 12:54 pmI just sent this to the Senator:
Senator-
Yesterday on the floor of the Senate you stated:
“I was asked this afternoon by a large body of media: Is this the most important thing the Senate could be doing at this time? I can tell you: You’re darned right it is.”
Two quick questions:
1. Could you please rank the importance of the Iraq war, the war on terror, education, healthcare, and the environment behind flag burning?
2. On this form I had to choose “other” as the “general topic of your [my] topic” yet flag burning was not an option for me to choose. If it is “the most important thing the Senate could be doing at this time” why is it not listed as a topic for my message?
Thanks much
June 28th, 2006 at 12:55 pmComment by KayneEast — June 28, 2006 @ 12:55 pm
Touche!
June 28th, 2006 at 12:58 pm#
kicking Murtha out of office should come in ahead of flag burning
Comment by john — June 28, 2006 @ 12:54 pm
Makes more sense if it reads like this. #
kicking Bush out of office should come in ahead of flag burning.
I agree PLC. I know that several of the posters here are athiest/agnostic. I respect them, they have the right to believe what they want. I just don’t agree. Like I stated most of this country is Christian in some way. the Dems may never appeal to evengelicals, but they can appeal to more moderate christian groups.
June 28th, 2006 at 1:01 pmPost 54 unless you are a Mormon, Hatch will have your letter put into the scredder machine! Mormonism is basically a cult, and they believe if they back Bush, then someday they can throw him under the bus and rule the entire United States! The day that Mormons take over will be the day I move to Switzerland or Denmark > lol.
June 28th, 2006 at 1:02 pmY’know, I agree with Hatch. Once flag desecration becomes illegal, we can prosecute Bush for his flag-signing habits (caught on film!). Of course, he’ll just claim the Constitution doesn’t apply to him anyway.
June 28th, 2006 at 1:03 pm#52 - “Hi you have reached For Truth, sorry I missed your call, I will be out of town on vacation until July 10th…
Comment by For Truth
Have a great time! Don’t watch the news!
June 28th, 2006 at 1:13 pmUnfortunately, there are progressives who are agnostic or atheist and do belittle Christianity and, to some extent, Christians.
Comment by PLC (Patriotic Liberal Christian)
Yeah, you are right, PLC. I’m a good example. I was raised a Christian and guess I got to be an agnostic when learning what I consider all those ancient fairy tails about Jonah in the whale, or how that old incestuous child molester, Lott, inpregnated his daughters but is portrayed as some kind of christian hero. And Jimmy Swaggart, Jimmy Bakker, and that lunatic Pat Robertson hasn’t helped me reach salvation, either.
But you are right, of course. Christians are the majority in this country and no election is going to be won without them being a part of any platform.
June 28th, 2006 at 1:17 pmi bet hatch might think that banning mormon-burning would be more important
June 28th, 2006 at 1:23 pmUtah state law requires that their congressional reps fly to and from Washiington via commercial coach fares.
June 28th, 2006 at 1:27 pmI once knew a flight attendant who works for and has been on commercial flights that ‘Orrin’ has seated himself.
When he arrives at the check-in he is automatically upgraded to first class with an empty ajoining seat (too bad if you had a ticket for that seat or his…your bumped) because it is well known that Mr Hatch will have your head if you don’t upgrade him.
He is well known among the working class as a dispicable republican hack.
No, he’s totally right- it’s the most important thing the Senate could be doing. It isn’t capable of doing anything more important than that.
June 28th, 2006 at 1:30 pmAnti-flag burning legislation is troublesome to me as a libertarian however it does seem it would square with libs attempts to halt global warming. Cant burn tobacco or leaves why should flags be exempt?
June 28th, 2006 at 1:30 pm#62 - What a slime bag.
June 28th, 2006 at 1:31 pmWell, is that or bringing our troops back home. Isnt it obvious, morons? (Sarcasm)
June 28th, 2006 at 1:32 pmUnfortunately, there are progressives who are agnostic or atheist and do belittle Christianity and, to some extent, Christians.
Comment by PLC (Patriotic Liberal Christian) — June 28, 2006 @ 12:53 pm
That would also be me. I’m pretty open about my distain for organized religion. I think it had done far more harm than good and I wouldn’t have a problem if it went away.
I have no problem with people having a spiritual side or a belief in a god that is personal and private. I’ve seen that do very little damage, far more good, and consider that to actually be in opposition of organized religion.
June 28th, 2006 at 1:33 pmOrin’s been brain dead for some time now.
June 28th, 2006 at 1:35 pmWhat a waste of time. Are republicans trying to bait citizens so that they can make examples of them? (Ah, just throw them in a new haliburton prison, there are vacancies.)
When was the last public flag burning, Orin? You only persue this, so that you can perpetuate “your war” and the profits for which will reelect you. Hopefully your constituents might see through your hipocracy as Mormons are supposed to be a “peace loving people”.
Cant burn tobacco or leaves why should flags be exempt?
Comment by troll — June 28, 2006 @ 1:30 pm
Tobacco gives off toxic fumes that cause cancer.
Burning leaves catches house and forests on fire, and pollutes the environment
Burning approximately 22 flags over the course of 230 years hurts no one.
Get it?
June 28th, 2006 at 1:37 pmHatch proves that he is completely out of touch with the concerns of the majority of the people in our country. This once again proves it.
A government that is so busy forcing nationalism upon its country, and trying to outlaw a symbolic act, is clearly overcompensating for the severe neglect of its responsibilities to its people.
A senator who can’t think of 100 more pressing matters to attend to under one of the single most destructive administrations in US history, is clearly not competent.
June 28th, 2006 at 1:39 pm60 JoeSixPack
I haven’t read any posts where you belittle Christians or Christianity. If you think belittling thoughts but don’t let them spill out in order to demand that others think like you, that just makes you a progressive. We progressives don’t have to agree on pure religious values to be respectful and supportive of each others’ rights. My biggest beef with the religious right is their trying to force their beliefs on any of us.
I don’t believe alot of the Biblical myths either, which to me are teaching stories only, not historical fact. BTW, Lott didn’t molest his daughters in the myth, they got him drunk and molested him. The Bible, as a collection of stories about the human condition, can be pretty raunchy!
June 28th, 2006 at 1:41 pmThe most important thing is an amendment to stop Bush from wiping his ass with the Constitution.
June 28th, 2006 at 1:42 pm[…] Orrin Hatch needs some time in the Total Perspective Vortex. I was asked this afternoon by a large body of media: Is this the most important thing the Senate could be doing at this time? I can tell you: You’re darned right it is. […]
June 28th, 2006 at 1:42 pmReply to #36:
katy,
Just the other day, I happened upon an article advocating the flying of the American flag upside-down. The American Flag Code states:
“Dire distress” is a chillingly apt discription of the state of the Union. It is under attack by the neo-fascists who lust for ultimate power and who are going about getting that power by using the exact strategy that Hitler used so successfully to seize total control of Germany not so long ago. Remember how that worked out? Now consider that, if America does indeed go down that route, there might not be anyone capable to putting a stop to it, as the Allies put a stop to Hitler in WWII.
Our country, and our entire world, is in distress. Do your part and fly your American flag conspicuously upside-down during this upcoming Independence Day holiday. When people approach you asking why, or pointing out what they believe to be an error, or berating you for what they believe to be un-American, take the opportunity to pour them a tall glass of lemonade and tell them exactly why you are doing it. Remember, it’s not an effective political statement if people don’t understand it. In this way, you can help spread the word about what is going on in this country (since most of the MSM seems to be asleep at the switch these days), and do your part to keep this nation true to the principles upon which it was founded.
Remember, the Flag Protection Amendment failed to pass the Senate, so you are completely free to do this. Don’t let conservative bullies tell you different.
Let’s send a clear message that we’re not going to let this country die quietly. I know most of you have put away your flags out of shame….it’s time now to pull them back out and use them to send our message. Don’t be ashamed of our country….be ashamed (and outraged) at what’s being done to it…and fight!
June 28th, 2006 at 1:44 pmUnfortunately, there are progressives who are agnostic or atheist and do belittle Christianity and, to some extent, Christians.
June 28th, 2006 at 1:44 pmComment by PLC (Patriotic Liberal Christian)
Why is it unfortunate to you that some of us deny the existence of a god or dont have enough proofs to believe in it? If somebody has forced its beliefs in to people who do not think the same is the Catholic religion. You can start with thousands of native americans, who received the evangelization through blood and steel or put under a 10-centuries-shadow the development of arts and science in Europe. Of course, I respect whatever you believe in…just dont tell us we are exercising some limits to your religious activities or thinking.
I apologize if someone has brought this up already but isn’t it against the Ten Commandments to worship a false idol? Wouldn’t the flag be considered a false idol? If you follow that rationale why would a hardcore Christian fundamentalist like Sam Brownback be pushing this so hard?
June 28th, 2006 at 1:49 pmHummm…How ’bout a law requiring that the flag be “Made in America”?
June 28th, 2006 at 1:49 pmThey’re not.
Prissy Mr. Hatch, in his prissy clothing can think of nothing else more important in the history of the world than that he and his colleagues in the Senate shall debate and try to pass an amendment to the Constitution forbidding burning of American flags. Despoiling American flags.
Anything but the truly serious business of getting down to such matters as two millions of babies dying at childrbirth every year; or out of control oil magnates; or out of control health magnates; or out of control war in Iraq and Afghanistant; or, or, or, and all this prissy little schoomarmish idiot can think of is to try to change the Constitution to forbid the burning of American flags.
Has it never occurred to him that by so doing he is already burning up the respect the flag engenders in people who love their country?
June 28th, 2006 at 1:52 pmSince liberals have won on this issue, I hope none of you will be offended when I publicly burn a gay-pride flag tomorrow. I have the right to express myself don’t I?
June 28th, 2006 at 1:52 pmwhy yes you do have the right to express your bigoted views randy. Have fun. And thanks for supporting the guy community by buying a gay pride flag.
June 28th, 2006 at 1:54 pm75 Juan C
June 28th, 2006 at 1:54 pmCome on, I’m on your side. My sentences has two components: being agnostic/atheist and belittling Christians. I find it unfortunate when both of those components are present in the same person. Similarly, I don’t like it when self-righteous Christians belittle agnostics/atheists or those of us with different Christian beliefs than they have. My comment offers that progressives cannot counter bigotry with bigotry.
Reply to #79:
Why exactly didi you think that would offend us?
June 28th, 2006 at 1:54 pmIt should be noted that the other Senator from Utah, Sen. Bennett, was one of three Republicans who voted against the amendment. Don’t know why, though.
June 28th, 2006 at 1:55 pmBTW, Lott didn’t molest his daughters in the myth, they got him drunk and molested him.
Comment by PLC (Patriotic Liberal Christian)
That is what most molesters say: she wanted me/led me on or whatever. But I don’t believe all the stories in the Bible being fables or figments of someone’s imagination. Some of it I can believe in. Like the first chapter of Ezikial and how he saw the aliens and the flying saucer!
June 28th, 2006 at 1:57 pm;)
I guess I don’t understand why I can burn the flag but I can’t burn a cross. I can march as KKK member in Skokie but not protest against abortion in front of a planned parenthood office. You see, I am offended by those who take so little pride in this country and trash our symbols of freedom with reckless abandon. If you want to protest, fine go knock yourself out. Write letters, give speeches etc. but it just seems like burning the flag is just but another sacrament that the left upholds in their religion.
June 28th, 2006 at 1:59 pmReply to #83:
Lisa,
Do you want the really paranoid version?
I think that the Repubs knew that if this amendment actually passed, it would do them more harm than good, so they engineered the vote to be as close as possible without passing. That way, they get their cake and eat it too.
(Besides which, ratification of the amendment would make Dubya’s retarded little flag-autographing sessions illegal…not that he’s ever been troubled by a little thing like the law…)
June 28th, 2006 at 1:59 pm79 Randy
June 28th, 2006 at 1:59 pmLet’s see if you can understand this: True progressives wouldn’t care because we aren’t hypocrites. We don’t defend just the rights of those who agree with us, we defend the rights of all.
Oh God. Mr Boring Hatch.
Don’t Mormons worry about more important things, like saving lives?
June 28th, 2006 at 2:01 pmRandy, I expect you to own the flag that you burn. Otherwise, knock yourself out. Roll it up and smoke it you like.
June 28th, 2006 at 2:01 pmPost 83 > why would one Mormon Utah Senator cancel the vote of the other Mormon Utah Senator? Hatch must hate Bennett for doing that, or maybe they dislike each other for some unknown reason? A kind of Mormon rivalry or infighting of some kind?!
June 28th, 2006 at 2:07 pm85 Randy
June 28th, 2006 at 2:08 pmI don’t remember the “left” pushing for a Constitutional Amendment to ban cross burning. Nor should there be. As you guys on the right are fond of saying, there are enough laws on the book to cover any real problems with either flag or cross burning - on someone else’s property, where general burning is prohibited, someone elses flag or cross, etc. The same basis, not interfering with others rights, underlies the prohibitions against marching in front of abortion clinics.
Reply to #85:
Randy, Randy, Randy…
I’ve been over this with you before, but it obviously hasn’t sunk in yet, so I’ll reiterate:
We protest precisely because we take great pride in our country…not because we take so little. If we didn’t care, we wouldn’t bother to protest, putting ourselves at risk of government persecution, not to mention good old-fashioned police beatings.
but it just seems like burning the flag is just but another sacrament that the left upholds in their religion.
Are you even aware of how retarded this sounds? Burning the flag is a ’sacrament’? Your use of this terminology just throws into stark relief how much you view the flag itself as ’sacred’.
Repeat after me:
The flag is not sacred.
The flag is merely a symbol.
The ideals upon which this country was founded…the ideals that the flag represents…are what are ’sacred’.
And here’s the kicker: one of those ideals is freedom of expression. Burning the flag is exercising that freedom, and freedom to burn the very symbol of our freedom is one of the most compelling arguments certifying our ideology. Banning desecration, on the other hand, makes a mockery of the very freedoms it purports to represent.
The flag doesn’t need a constitutional amendment to protect it…Americans themselves can protect it just fine.
June 28th, 2006 at 2:11 pmRandy,
the total number of flags burned last year as I understand it was 4. I am know why this has been made an issue, because it plays well with people like you. As for picketing an abortion clinic. Maybe the reason was the evident violence expressed against the workers and patients. It is one thing to picket, and another to threaten someone. The burning of a cross issue is self explanatory, and you should be able to figure it out. If you want to burn a cross on your property go for it. You won’t make any friends, but it should be your right. If you want to burn a cross on the lawn of the only black family in your neigborhood then you should be punished. You have rights. So does everyone one else. Get used to it.
June 28th, 2006 at 2:11 pmI have the right to express myself don’t I?
Comment by Randy — June 28, 2006 @ 1:52 pm
Yep. Burn your bra while you’re at it. I couldn’t care less.
June 28th, 2006 at 2:11 pmBURN FLAG…………..BAAAADD
June 28th, 2006 at 2:12 pmBURN IRAQIS……………OK….
Yes post 86 maybe the GOP wanted the flag amendment to be just shy of one vote passage to claim the Democrats are flag haters now? When 2 Mormon Senators cancel each other’s votes then something nefarious is up? When GOP claims they needed one more vote to pass the Flag amendment, then the Dems need to say go get mad at Bennett > lol.
June 28th, 2006 at 2:13 pmCome on, I’m on your side
June 28th, 2006 at 2:14 pmComment by PLC (Patriotic Liberal Christian)
I know, and also I find all your posts really balanced and well-thought. I admire religious people with a sense of autocriticism and much more, in the left. Just wanted to express the idea that is not unfortunate to have us, which, I misunderstood.
My comment offers that progressives cannot counter bigotry with bigotry.
Comment by PLC (Patriotic Liberal Christian) — June 28, 2006 @ 1:54 pm
I maintain that it’s not bigotry to oppose a group that largely oppressed people, including its own followers.
June 28th, 2006 at 2:14 pmHatch doesn’t have anything wrong that electricity and anti-psychotics wouldn’t cure.
June 28th, 2006 at 2:18 pmRepeat after me:
Comment by TripMaster Monkey — June 28, 2006 @ 2:11 pm
Ok. I will.
The flag is not sacred.
The flag is merely a symbol.
The ideals upon which this country was founded…the ideals that the flag represents…are what are ’sacred’.
Amen.
June 28th, 2006 at 2:19 pmI guess I don’t understand why I can burn the flag but I can’t burn a cross
Comment by Randy — June 28, 2006 @ 1:59 pm
You can in your own yard. It’s when you guys hide your identities and burn them in someone else’s yard in the middle of the night to intimidate that it crosses the line into illegal.
It’s about intention Randy. As long as you don’t hurt other people, you’re probably okay to burn anything you want in your own yard (some things require permits).
June 28th, 2006 at 2:19 pmBURN FLAG…………..BAAAADD
BURN IRAQIS……………OK….
Comment by caveman(R)&(D) — June 28, 2006 @ 2:12 pm
BURN CAVEMAN………..REAL GOOD
June 28th, 2006 at 2:20 pmHatch represents people who have intercourse through holes in sheets lest they become aroused by neckedness.
June 28th, 2006 at 2:22 pmDon’t Mormons worry about more important things, like saving lives?
Comment by CLUBBER WORFEUS
I’m pretty sure they’re thinking about knocking up chicks all the time. ;)
June 28th, 2006 at 2:23 pmAt one time the KKK would erect a giant white cross on the top of Stone Mountain, in Georgia, setting it on fire then pushing it off the mountain to crash down below in a ball of fire > the spot where they did this is just above the rock carving of the 3 heros of the Confederacy > the KKK was forced out of the park and Stone Mountain area in early 1970s!
June 28th, 2006 at 2:26 pmLooks like CLUBBER didn’t get that one, oh well.
June 28th, 2006 at 2:26 pmI guess I don’t understand why I can burn the flag but I can’t burn a cross
June 28th, 2006 at 2:26 pmComment by Randy — June 28, 2006 @ 1:59 pm
Do both, buddy. The latter in Harlem with a white sheet over you and tell us how did that go.
Juan,
I think Compton in LA would be a better choice for a cross burning.
June 28th, 2006 at 2:30 pm[…] Yesterday while the Senate was debating flag burning, Orin made sure everyone knew that America has priorities and there is nothing more important in our country than outlawing the burning of the flag: On the Senate floor yesterday, Sen. Orrin Hatch (R-UT) said there was nothing the Senate could be doing that was more important than banning flag burning. Watch it: […]
June 28th, 2006 at 2:37 pm98 Unbelievable
I would ask you to rethink that. Bigotry is assuming that all members of the group are the same and, as you have yourself noted, I’m not like most Christians even though I self-identify as one. Second, any group can oppress others, which can be resisted externally and internally without trying to eliminate the group. Finally, Christianity does not oppress me. I have free will and I don’t let it oppress me.
97 Juan C
OK. No problem - if you misunderstood, others may have as well. I’m glad you gave me the opportunity to explain.
It’s amazing and refreshing that we progressives can disagree civily and respectfully. Compare these threads with those we have all had with the neocons. ()()() - head spinning
June 28th, 2006 at 2:46 pmYa know, you’ve really got to wonder what type of pin-heads Hatch is trying to appeal to. Sometimes when I read crap like this I have to pinch myself to make sure I’m not dreaming - I mean seriously, no one with both frontal lobes intact could possibly believe this is anywhere close to being ‘an’ important issue let alone ‘the most’ important issue they could be debating. The senate chamber should have errupted into uncontrollable laughter upon hearing this shameless hack
June 28th, 2006 at 2:58 pmDear Judd:
Thanks for your post.
Silly me… I thought global poverty and destruction of the al-Qaeda was the most important things for our “leaders” to do.
I guess I’m wrong.
You know, the problem of flag burning could be resolved by making flags out of non-flammable materials!! (Heard that on this morning’s “Stephcast”
June 28th, 2006 at 2:59 pmThe Bush Reich rules thru fear.
June 28th, 2006 at 3:00 pmWhen you become tired of being fearful, you become resentful.
When you grow tired of being resentful, you become hateful.
Any doubter simply need to look at our present society or settle for example’s displayed on this blog.
Curtsie!
Quadra: “Ya know, you’ve really got to wonder what type of pin-heads Hatch is trying to appeal to.” - - My brother lives in southern Utah in an enclave of liberals. In the areas surrounding him it is not unusual to see replicas of The Ten Commandments displayed on some front lawns. Geeze, I hope they’re replicas.
June 28th, 2006 at 3:01 pmYep. Burn your bra while you’re at it. I couldn’t care less.
Comment by unbelievable — June 28, 2006 @ 2:11 pm
Classic.
June 28th, 2006 at 3:04 pmThat was funnier than hell Unbelievable, thanks for the laugh. I see Randy hasn’t been back, maybe he’s still trying to figure out how to get it off. He does realize you should take it off first, doesn’t he?
June 28th, 2006 at 3:09 pmScary huh Badmoon?
June 28th, 2006 at 3:10 pmgood ol’ boy orrin, look at his voting record and try not to laugh. Look at what he has sponsored and try not to laugh. look at the religion he represents first and foremost, and try not to laugh
June 28th, 2006 at 3:17 pmas long as we have utah in the US, you will have insanity reign from their representatives. This is because they feel a box of rocks is more important than anything else. try not to laugh.
remember, he is a good friend of anal roberts, jerry falldown, putz ribberson and the other big players in the religion business. he knows they are going to hell because they aren’t morons, but he still takes money from them. he won’t let ethics get in his way
What a dumb turd.
June 28th, 2006 at 3:23 pmHe does realize you should take it off first, doesn’t he?
Comment by Quadrajet — June 28, 2006 @ 3:09 pm
I hope not…
June 28th, 2006 at 3:23 pmJust glancing through some of the remarks…I’m a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, yes, “Mormon”. I’m ashamed of Orrin Hatch. It’s time for him to retire and go away. No. 57, that’s news to me. Sorry to disappoint you, but I’m afraid you’ll never see Switzerland or Denmark, at least not under the circumstances you mention. You sound just like Pat Robertson and Jerry Falwell. They hate Mormons too > lol. No. 7 (oops, same guy), Mormons do not have multiple wives, and haven’t for the last 120 years or so. Anyone who practices plural marriage is not a Mormon; an excommunicated Mormon, perhaps.
To the subject at hand, I can’t think of anything dumber than amending our precious constitution to ban flag burning. Good grief.
June 28th, 2006 at 3:25 pmHow about the Democrats put legislation up that bars flag pins as a fashion accessory? I can’t think of anything more disgusting that seeing the criminals of the Republican Syndicate using our flag as a fashion accessory as if that somehow makes them more patriotic. Their day of accountability is coming….
June 28th, 2006 at 3:34 pmI have some neighbors who tell me burnt cat taste great. Maybe there should be more cat burning.
June 28th, 2006 at 3:34 pm“Most Important”?
June 28th, 2006 at 3:35 pmTell that to our Men and Women in Iraq!
Of course the self righteous animal rights lefties would quickly put a halt to that.
June 28th, 2006 at 3:38 pmPost 121 > some Mormons have had more than one wife up to the 1950s and one of your judges was recently found to have 2 or 3 wives! I know this is NO longer acceptable in your religion, but to say it stopped 120 years ago is rediculous! Pat Robertson actually pals around with Orrin Hatch, so news to me Pat hates Mormons? ( I have no problem with your religion as long as you do not try to convert people by force!)
June 28th, 2006 at 3:42 pmImagine all the lonely flakey old maids who’d be searching for kitty.
Blog, kitty, Blog, kitty.
What to do?
June 28th, 2006 at 3:42 pmUnfortunately, there are progressives who are agnostic or atheist and do belittle Christianity and, to some extent, Christians.
Comment by PLC (Patriotic Liberal Christian) — June 28, 2006 @ 12:53 pm
That would also be me….
June 28th, 2006 at 3:48 pmComment by unbelievable — June 28, 2006 @ 1:33 pm
well, miracles never cease…
so good of you to fess up to the fact that you constantly belittle people, not just those of faith, but most anyone who disagrees with you in any way…
THAT is your hypocrisy, and it shows all the time.
too bad you’ve let your sense of self-importance get the better of you.
your intelligence, wit and writing skills are apparent, but you are basically just a very mean person with many issues who projects those feelings of inadequacy onto anyone you feel threatens your role of queen of TP… get real…
And her fat toothless neighbor would be across the trailer park from the old maid licken her lips and waiting for her welfare check, hoping her friend from the local democrat town council doesnt find her out.
June 28th, 2006 at 3:50 pmKaty
Ive been calling the old maid on that for a while, but she is too full of herself to listen. The whole queen persona is a nepolianic syndrome kind of thing. Makes up for her obvious social and aesthetic shortcomings.
June 28th, 2006 at 3:57 pmAnd she thinks she is a moderate. Isnt that just adorable?
June 28th, 2006 at 4:00 pmI have not observed great intelligence from her. But she’d make a good secretary cause she can type very fast.
June 28th, 2006 at 4:04 pmI have some neighbors who tell me burnt cat taste great. Maybe there should be more cat burning.
Comment by troll — June 28, 2006 @ 3:34 pm
Actually, succulent troll is supposed to be far better. All that fat makes you juicy when you roast over an open spit.
June 28th, 2006 at 4:06 pm#54.
I just sent this to the Senator:
Senator-
Yesterday on the floor of the Senate you stated:
“I was asked this afternoon by a large body of media: Is this the most important thing the Senate could be doing at this time? I can tell you: You’re darned right it is.â€
Two quick questions:
1. Could you please rank the importance of the Iraq war, the war on terror, education, healthcare, and the environment behind flag burning?
2. On this form I had to choose “other†as the “general topic of your [my] topic†yet flag burning was not an option for me to choose. If it is “the most important thing the Senate could be doing at this time†why is it not listed as a topic for my message?
Thanks much
Comment by KayneEast — June 28, 2006 @ 12:55 pm
Excellent.
June 28th, 2006 at 4:07 pmJay, I’m curious as to your sources. Could you provide any? If it’s from a Robertson or Falwell endorsed hate book, it’s a lie. Fundamentalist “Christians” believe all Mormons are going to hell, and there is no shortage of hatred for Mormons amongst the sorry lot. They’re entitled to an opinion, of course. It is only political expediency that aligns Falwell, Robertson, etc. with Hatch. I hope you can glean from my previous post that, politically speaking, I have little in common with the Senator from Utah (I’m in Minnesota). You could call me a Harry Reid Mormon if you wish.
Let me just say, on topic again, that there are many, MANY issues more important than flag burning.
June 28th, 2006 at 4:08 pmCan there be a bigger idiot? What a moron!
June 28th, 2006 at 4:09 pmC’mon O Ring (as in cipher), can’t you understand that a flag is a mere symbol of a country many people are currently plenty disgusted with. Far better that they burn a flag than that they storm the Bastille or burn the U.S. Senate, which they might be inclined to do if you continue to try to abridge their fundamental rights to political speech, you stupid son-of-a-bitch.
June 28th, 2006 at 4:12 pmComment by katy — June 28, 2006 @ 3:48 pm
I don’t value a single thing you have to say, or care what you think about me. You are not my mother, for the 1000th time. Accept that I dislike you and just stop showing your ass. It’s rather unappealing.
June 28th, 2006 at 4:13 pmI have not observed great intelligence from her. But she’d make a good secretary cause she can type very fast.
Comment by troll — June 28, 2006 @ 4:04 pm
You are incapable of recognizing intelligence. We know.
At least I’m good at something. You’re still batting a big fat goose egg.
June 28th, 2006 at 4:16 pmWhat an idiot.
June 28th, 2006 at 4:22 pmFor all of you idiots if you can not respect the flag as stated below leave this country and go to Iraq!
Respect for flag
No disrespect should be shown to the flag of the United States of America; the flag should not be dipped to any person or thing. Regimental colors, State flags, and organization or institutional flags are to be dipped as a mark of honor.
(a) The flag should never be displayed with the union down, except as a signal of dire distress in instances of extreme danger to life or property.
(b) The flag should never touch anything beneath it, such as the ground, the floor, water, or merchandise.
(c) The flag should never be carried flat or horizontally, but always aloft and free.
(d) The flag should never be used as wearing apparel, bedding, or drapery. It should never be festooned, drawn back, nor up, in folds, but always allowed to fall free. Bunting of blue, white, and red, always arranged with the blue above, the white in the middle, and the red below, should be used for covering a speaker’s desk, draping the front of the platform, and for decoration in general.
(e) The flag should never be fastened, displayed, used, or stored in such a manner as to permit it to be easily torn, soiled, or damaged in any way.
(f) The flag should never be used as a covering for a ceiling.
(g) The flag should never have placed upon it, nor on any part of it, nor attached to it any mark, insignia, letter, word, figure, design, picture, or drawing of any nature.
(h) The flag should never be used as a receptacle for receiving, holding, carrying, or delivering anything.
(i) The flag should never be used for advertising purposes in any manner whatsoever. It should not be embroidered on such articles as cushions or handkerchiefs and the like, printed or otherwise impressed on paper napkins or boxes or anything that is designed for temporary use and discard. Advertising signs should not be fastened to a staff or halyard from which the flag is flown.
(j) No part of the flag should ever be used as a costume or athletic uniform. However, a flag patch may be affixed to the uniform of military personnel, firemen, policemen, and members of patriotic organizations. The flag represents a living country and is itself considered a living thing. Therefore, the lapel flag pin being a replica, should be worn on the left lapel near the heart.
(k) The flag, when it is in such condition that it is no longer a fitting emblem for display, should be destroyed in a dignified way, preferably by burning.
June 28th, 2006 at 4:26 pmSeixon, the first step is in admitting you have a problem. Good for you.
June 28th, 2006 at 4:26 pmWe trolls are often too lean for that unless first taken prisoner, domesticated and forced to dwell with persnickety and repugnant old maids.
June 28th, 2006 at 4:26 pm141
June 28th, 2006 at 4:39 pmYou don’t mess with the Constitution to insure etiquette “shoulds”. Freedom of speech and dissension trump the flag any day. How many Americans really follow all these points of etiquette and should they all “live in Iraq” or be prosecuted if they don’t. If so, President Bush needs to pack his bags because there are pictures of him signing a flag (g). What about all the merchandising ads we are about to get (i) - should the Board of Directors of Walmart be forced to go to Iraq? While I think all of these points of etiquette are generally good, they should not be codified into law. You have no right to “make” me respect anything.
(d) The flag should never be used as wearing apparel
what about all those flag lapel pins the republicans seem to have a hard-on for? I saw a picture of a guy, rapid pro-bush dude, wearing pants, shirt, cap, and fanny pack all made out of US flag design.
June 28th, 2006 at 4:46 pmWe trolls are often too lean for that unless first taken prisoner, domesticated and forced to dwell with persnickety and repugnant old maids.
Comment by troll — June 28, 2006 @ 4:26 pm
You are prone to believing in fairytales besides the Bible…
June 28th, 2006 at 4:47 pmlove this country,
You leftout the most important one:
L) The flag should never be used to cover the ass of an incompetent and/or criminal politician. If it is used in such a manner, it should be burned immediately, along with the bastard that wrapped himself in it.
June 28th, 2006 at 4:54 pm#141
Nice post! Unfortunately, you are speaking to deaf ears here. These people hate this country and everything it stands for.
June 28th, 2006 at 4:57 pm148 Randy
June 28th, 2006 at 5:02 pmNot true. We just don’t love our country in a way parallel to the way an abusive husband loves his wife. I’d love to stay and chat, but I’ve got to go. Besides, you stopped up your ears earlier in the day on this thread.
Randy,
We thought you left to go burn a gay pride flag and your bra. Not as much fun without anyone to get irate about it?
June 28th, 2006 at 5:03 pm#141. love this country. — June 28, 2006 @ 4:26 pm
I think we’ve got violation of d, h,and i here:
http://www.gopshoppe.com/cgi-bin/gop/PSApparel.html
http://www.gopshoppe.com/cgi-bin/gop/AFPLEDGE.html
http://www.gop.com/store/Detail.aspx?id=16
You should get over there and voice your disapproval of this practice.
June 28th, 2006 at 5:08 pmI hope they didn’t get too many of those IPod covers. They could get stuck with a bunch of them.
June 28th, 2006 at 5:11 pmunbelievable,
Seixon, the first step is in admitting you have a problem. Good for you.
WTF is wrong with you? Just because your brain is so infested with liberal BS doesn’t mean that I actually am a conservative like your psychotic little mind wants you to believe to maintain your warped worldview. I have been against the flag burning amendment from day one, so why don’t you go play shrink somewhere else.
June 28th, 2006 at 5:18 pm#36, Katy, check this website out:
June 28th, 2006 at 5:22 pmFollowing ACLU Intervention, Colorado Business Owner Resumes Upside-Down Flag Display to Protest War
http://www.aclu.org/ freespeech/ flag/ 11177prs20030415.html
141–”The flag should never be used for advertising purposes in any manner whatsoever. It should not be embroidered on such articles as cushions or handkerchiefs and the like, printed or otherwise impressed on paper napkins or boxes or anything that is designed for temporary use…”
are you suggesting that it should be illegal to use the flag in ads? how about political ads? are you also suggesting it should be illegal to make paper napkin flags? illegal for gandma to embroider the flag into a pillow? not sure what you intended by your post…
June 28th, 2006 at 5:37 pmFantastic. I thought the most important thing was banning gay marriage, according to the Louisiana dipshit?
June 28th, 2006 at 5:53 pmSeixon, you’re way too easy dude. I predict a heart attack in your immediate future if you don’t grow a sense of humor.
You’re most definitely a conservative. You’ve got the false victim routine down to a t. “Stop, stop, you’re hurting my feelings…” And you’re great at blaming everyone else for everythingyou don’t like. Plus, you’re just not a nice person. Not even a little.
I won’t read your response. You give me a headache. You’re too loud.
June 28th, 2006 at 5:54 pmWell my friends. I am glad we All live in a democracy, where we can discuss all these issues. However I must say that 99% of you go AWOL around the time of elections, we the people have to deal with nitwits like these deciding what is important to our lives. PEACE OUT
June 28th, 2006 at 6:01 pmWell my friends. I am glad we All live in a democracy, where we can discuss all these issues. However I must say that 99% of you go AWOL around the time of elections, we the people have to deal with nitwits like these deciding what is important to our lives. PEACE OUT
June 28th, 2006 at 6:01 pmWell my friends. I am glad we All live in a democracy, where we can discuss all these issues. However I must say that 99% of you go AWOL around the time of elections, we the people have to deal with nitwits like these deciding what is important to our lives. PEACE OUT
June 28th, 2006 at 6:01 pmSeixon,
June 28th, 2006 at 6:04 pmUnbelievablr is a little thick Ive told her before that Im no bible thumper but she keeps attempting to label me as such. You are absolutely corect she needs to believe we are extremists so she can continue her “I am a moderate” delusion.
Just for fun
KEEPER: Heh heh. Stop! What is your name?
ARTHUR: It is Arthur, King of the Britons.
KEEPER: What is your quest?
ARTHUR: To seek the Holy Grail.
KEEPER: What is the air-speed velocity of an unladen swallow?
ARTHUR: What do you mean? An African or European swallow?
KEEPER: What? I don’t know that! Auuuuuuuugh!
BEDEMIR: How do know so much about swallows?
ARTHUR: Well, you have to know these things when you’re a king you know.
http://www.sacred-texts.com/neu/mphg/mphg.htm
June 28th, 2006 at 6:08 pmAll I can say to this clip is, what a moron. Sen. Hatch spoke at my school and took questions off the record and I can personally testify that he is as sickeningly rightwing and ignorant in person as he is on TV. He couldn’t even remember what state Sen. Feingold is from. If you were in the Senate, would you know the home state of each one of your ninety-nine colleagues? I should hope so.
June 28th, 2006 at 6:16 pmTroll,
You’re 100% on that post. Wrong, of course, but you’re 100% at it. Though I think Seixon will pitch a fot about you considering him one of you neocons. Wah….
Sorry you’re not important enough to remember the details of your neurosis. I know you take it personally. You take everything personally. Invest in duct tape. Might be the only thng to prevent you from imminent explosion…
I’d suggest a sense of humor, but your model doesn’t seem to come with one. You’re the yearl that got two anuses instead. One for each end…
June 28th, 2006 at 6:16 pmBURNING FLAGS—–OK…………………BURNING REPUBLICANS——-BETTER.
June 28th, 2006 at 6:18 pmUB
Youre no Authur. MAybe a Dingo?
DINGO: Oh, wicked, bad, naughty, evil Zoot! Oh, she is a naughty
person, and she must pay the penalty — and here in Castle Anthrax, we
have but one punishment for setting alight the grail-shaped beacon. You
must tie her down on a bed and spank her!
GIRLS: A spanking! A spanking!
DINGO: You must spank her well. And after you have spanked her, you
may deal with her as you like. And then, spank me.
VARIOUS GIRLS: And spank me.
And me.
And me.
DINGO: Yes, yes, you must give us all a good spanking!
GIRLS: A spanking! A spanking!
I couldnt help it.
June 28th, 2006 at 6:18 pm#164 - UB, Bwhahahahahahaha!
June 28th, 2006 at 6:19 pm#141, notice the vaery last part of the Flag Code?
June 28th, 2006 at 6:41 pm“(k) The flag, when it is in such condition that it is no longer a fitting emblem for display, should be destroyed in a dignified way, preferably by burning.”
HELLO? Didn’t you just shoot yourself in the foor there buddy?
Pardon me, I meant to type “foot”, I don’t even know what a “foor” is…
June 28th, 2006 at 6:42 pmunbelievable,
Seixon, you’re way too easy dude. I predict a heart attack in your immediate future if you don’t grow a sense of humor.
I have a good sense of humor, but I fail to see how you are being funny. You just keep claiming you were joking every time you make some stupid delusional remark.
You’re most definitely a conservative. You’ve got the false victim routine down to a t. “Stop, stop, you’re hurting my feelings…†And you’re great at blaming everyone else for everythingyou don’t like. Plus, you’re just not a nice person. Not even a little.
False victim is a conservative thing? Don’t even make me laugh. Digging up personal details about me and posting them here for no reason was an orchestrated attempt to intimidate me. Instead of taking responsibility like, you know, an adult, you call me a crybaby for wanting the privacy that everyone else here enjoys.
False victims are those who scream about the Bush administration coming to kill them, wiretapping all their phones, and all that. You paint yourself as a victim of Republicans and the Bush administration, though you can’t even point to a single thing they have actually done against you. That’s what playing a false victim is, and you do it all the time.
I am a nice person if you are interested in being nice to me. Treat others as you like to be treated. You have always treated me as something I am not, labeled me things I am not, called me all sorts of names, attacked me, and degenerated into publishing personal details about me. I won’t stoop as low as you, but I will definitely not be nice to someone who acts like you do.
I won’t read your response. You give me a headache. You’re too loud.
Yeah, logic and common sense does make your head hurt, I know. Whenever you get caught making shit up or sayin