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66.

By Judd Legum on Jul 1st, 2006 at 10:34 pm

66.

Percentage of Americans who believe the country is on the wrong track, according to a new TIME Magazine poll.

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88 Responses to “66.”

Above the Clouds says:

Who in this Administration cares about polls when they have the likes of Karl Rove, Dick Cheney, and Donald Rumsfeld dispensing advice? Just how many more years and terms will it take for a Republican House, Republican Senate, Republican Executive Branch, and all three supported by a Republican appointed Supreme Court will get around to doing something that helps America? Every damn thing these ne0cons do is WRONG. Invade and occupy a nation that posed no threat to us? WRONG. Their response to Katrina? WRONG. Harriet Myers? WRONG. Social Security reform? WRONG. Blame the NYT for their fuck-ups? WRONG. NSA and bank account spying? WRONG.
July 1st, 2006 at 10:51 pm
katy says:

imagine what it will be when/if the real story keeps coming out…
i think (knock on wood) many are realizing what that spine is for…
July 1st, 2006 at 10:52 pm
The Other National Anthem says:

66 percent may think the country’s on the wrong track.
But how many of those do you think will actually take the initiative to change it.
Americans have a stigma of laziness and indifference attached to them; unfortunately, for the most part, those stigmas are true.
July 1st, 2006 at 10:54 pm
Jay Randal says:

Yep but sad that 34% think that Bush is the most wonderful leader in the history of the known world > lol. I guess we know how many Germans actually loved Adolf Hitler > probably about 34%?! 1/3 of any nation’s population are right wing crazies!
July 1st, 2006 at 10:54 pm
Abby says:

Between the 66% â€œterrorist loving traitorsâ€ who thinks we are on the wrong track and the remaining 34% who are undoubtedly attached to the Fox News titty, America is well and truly screwed.
July 1st, 2006 at 10:56 pm
dlet says:

yah 66 %. Can we consider that a moral majority yet. Use this as monkey skat to fling at repugs for the coming elections. See what sticks. The percentage will only get bigger if the Dems grow some nuts.
July 1st, 2006 at 11:19 pm
Briseadh na Faire says:

34% consider the country to be on the Reich track.
July 1st, 2006 at 11:22 pm
Above the Clouds says:

Jay: Be careful about using Hitler for an analogy: he did things like attack and occupy nations that posed no threat to him, stifled public dissent, used military might instead of diplomacy, killed civilians, hired henchman to do his bidding, censored the news, used propoganda to spread his message, tortured prisoners, and a bunch of other shit that in no obvious way parallels what the neocon leadership in the White House is trying to do. Freedom’s on the march, dude.
July 1st, 2006 at 11:25 pm
Jay Randal says:

Post 8 > If you believe that Bush is bringing freedom to the world, then I feel sorry for you?! The Bush Regime is bringing fascism to America and trying to enslave the world!

I hope your post is actually SARCASM, because Bush is doing all those things!
July 1st, 2006 at 11:33 pm
Abby says:

#9 Jeez, Jay Randal. are you for real?!? In any case, yes it’s sarcasm.
July 1st, 2006 at 11:52 pm
Zooey aka Zookeeper says:

66% – No shit. What’s wrong with the entrenched 34%? I wonder what, exactly, is it going to take to make those idiots budge. I’m too tired for this.
July 1st, 2006 at 11:58 pm
katy says:

coincidentally – tonight on Sat.Night Live’s Weekend Update, a repeat, from another 66% poll, the famous Tina Fey lline: the remaining 34% think adam and eve rode dinosaurs to church…
heh…
July 2nd, 2006 at 12:22 am
MrTimPA says:

#11: 34% of this country (plus/minus) are too f*in stupid to see that the man is putz – it’s pretty simple. Of course, those very same 34% (all FNS viewers) prolly drooled when they watched him on TeeVee with the PM of Japan touring the Elvis museum.. (gag me with a spoon).
July 2nd, 2006 at 12:26 am
MrTimPA says:

#12 – Katy – LMOL – that fits! :)
July 2nd, 2006 at 12:28 am
Zooey aka Zookeeper says:

#13 – OMG, I couldn’t even look at GWB and the Japanese PM for more than a minute while they were doing the Elvis thing — so embarassing. I’ll have to ask my dad if he saw that on Fox. Then again maybe I won’t, it’ll be a fight. *sigh*
July 2nd, 2006 at 12:31 am
Zooey aka Zookeeper says:

#12 – katy, my nephew, age 14, says god put the dinosaur bones in the ground to test his faith. I almost told him his god is a sick fuck, but I held my tongue. It was maximum effort.

Goodnight all!
July 2nd, 2006 at 12:34 am
katy says:

zooey – 14… that’s high school next fall… poor kid…
a rude awakening awaits…
i’ve heard of that “theory”… amazing stuff…
why would bones test his faith? no, don’t answer that…
it doesn’t matter… that is so sad…

g’nite to you…
July 2nd, 2006 at 12:43 am
Ken Daves says:

Who the hell are the 34 percent who feel we are on the right track?

I never ever ever meet or speak with any of them. Even staunch republicans in this part of the country who will not give up on republicans are starting to see that bush is not the man to lead anyone.

I honestly haven’t met a single person who likes bush.
July 2nd, 2006 at 1:12 am
Ken Daves says:

Oh, except my father, but he’s an asshole…
July 2nd, 2006 at 1:13 am
MrTimPA says:

#19-20- My dad voted for Bush in 2000 – he didn’t make the same mistake twice.
July 2nd, 2006 at 1:52 am
Kurt says:

Does that mean 34% really believe that 19 Muslims with box cutters pulled off 9/11?
July 2nd, 2006 at 6:27 am
big papa says:

$$$$1.3 BILLION in red state FARM WELFARE…

…the WAPO has a GREAT front page article on the U.S. government’s program to provide people who DON”T FARM with WELFARE…

…these red state hypocrites are the same people who promulgate the “WELFARE Queen” shibboleth…

…al Crackkker hypocrites whose lavish comfortable/lifestyles Liberal/Progressives’ tax dollars are subsidizing…

…THIS is al Crackker inbred Bushite Amerikkka at its MOST hypocritical…

…given this story, Blue state tax payers’ subsidizing sparsely populated red states- yet NO presidential ticket can succeed without red neck southern al Crackkers’ backing and participation on the ticket…

…Congress’ penchant for voting themselves raises while refusing to discuss raising the minimum wage…

… and the TREASONOUS criminal Bushite junta’s (and their corporate cronies’) proverbial “goose that lays the golden egg”- IRAQ…

…it’s “WE THE PEOPLE” who are the FOOLS!
July 2nd, 2006 at 7:47 am
Vietnam Vet says:

The 34% true believers never bother to look for logical reasons to support this ding bat of a president! I have a brother-in-law, who used to have a picture of JFK hanging in his house, that started voting the GOP when he was looking to have his taxes reduced. Every year, he files his tax return, and is still waiting to have his taxes reduced! You see, he is just a common old middle class, retired, gentleman, not one of those with mega millions. So, next time I see him, he will STILL be waiting to have his taxes reduced and still casting his vote for a republican. He is a true, blue, 34 percenter!
July 2nd, 2006 at 9:35 am
moonbat patrol says:

big papa- you are the most racist, bigoted hypocrite I have heard in a long time. Man if anybody said hallf the crap you say about some protected minority or homosexuals you would flip out but because it is white people from rural andred states that’s OK right? you are dirty hypocrite liberal progressive dirtbag traitor.
if you leftards had any brains you would hear what the polls are really saying. The majority of Americans are saying that we don’t want your open borders and illegal imagrants, high taxes for social(ist) programs,gun control and we certainly don’t want your asinine idea that gays’ can get married like normal folks. Most of the populace is unhappy because Bush has not been able to stifle and silence the liberal-socialist agenda enough.
Posts like pig pappa’s really show the true liberal agenda, bias, and gross hypocrisy. Maybe America is just so unhappy because the liberals did not go to Canada when Bush won in ‘04 like they promised!
July 2nd, 2006 at 9:44 am
the Lone Voice of Reason says:

Come on now , not all the remaining 34% actually believe we’re on the right course . Some could’nt understand the question in the poll , and then another small percentage could’nt understand the language . But that might still leave a good 25 % , people are just that stupid here .
July 2nd, 2006 at 9:59 am
Brian Coughlan says:

… you are dirty hypocrite liberal progressive dirtbag traitor.
if you leftards had any brains ….

Comment by moonbat patrol â€” July 2, 2006 @ 9:44 am

Thanks for your balanced and reflective contribution to the discussion. Can I point out that you are making that classic conservative conflation of criticism and racial hatred.

In this world view objecting to isreali overkill is “anti jewish”, and objecting to american troops raping and killing innocent iraqis with impunity is “anti-american”. No it’s not. It’s the correct reaction of normal people to atrocity. Thus when Big Papa points out the obvious and glaring hypocrisy in the republican position on these issues, it’s a “racial attack” and a “slur”. Nothwitstanding the fully factual basis of the comment.

People here are wise to that nonsense Moonbat.
July 2nd, 2006 at 10:20 am
the Lone Voice of Reason says:

Brian , people like moonbatinhisbelfry will soon be all alone in society , they’ll either have to lie about who they voted for or be laughed at and ridiculed , but right now you’ll never be able to reason with them .
July 2nd, 2006 at 10:29 am
madashell says:

moonbat patrol

In a false quarrel there is no true valour. William Shakespeare
July 2nd, 2006 at 10:35 am
unbelievable says:

66% – No shit. Whatâ€™s wrong with the entrenched 34%? I wonder what, exactly, is it going to take to make those idiots budge. Iâ€™m too tired for this.
Comment by Zooey aka Zookeeper â€” July 1, 2006 @ 11:58 pm

Fear is what keeps them in denial – and in hope that they will be proven right.

I’ve been having a ‘discussion’ with Tracy. The guy is an architect. That means he has some capacity for intelligence. But the minute you bring up anything he’s been conditioned, like Pavlov’s dogs, to fear, he becomes irrational and nonsensical. The fear clearly reduces him to a cowering child who can only sling insults and twist reality into something he can hide his head inside.

It’s like Lincoln said about being able to fool some of the people all the time. Just like those who think the sun revolves around a flat earth… because the Bible says so.
July 2nd, 2006 at 11:38 am
Marie says:

#1 above the clouds
Good post.
Yes, just when will they think about doing something that is truly good for America, instead of saying that’s what they’re doing, when it is clear wht they are doing, which is acting in their own self-interests?
July 2nd, 2006 at 12:21 pm
Marie says:

#4, Jay
You’re right, too.
The 34% who believe GW walks on water are in control of all branches of government, have intimidated, squelched, battered and bought off the media who are supposed to be watchdogs for the public interest.
That makes it incredibly hard for the whole truth to be seen in the light of day. The 66% are constantly beaten and barraged, disinformed and disrespected by the 34% and that isn’t going to change unless we can overcome their election day criminal activity and win back at least a portion of the government.
July 2nd, 2006 at 12:28 pm
moonbat patrol says:

#27 nice try but your typical convoluted liberal thinking just does not work anymore. People of sound mind see and recognize the liberal hypocrisy and all your sordid efforts are just plain wrong.
#28 if you think your reasoning is true then how come the democratic party which has been hijacked by the kook fringe leftists have been losing elections since 1994?? Why is it that, outside of a few ultra liberal states liberals always lose elections? Hell even Canada , Canada!! tossed the liberals out and elected a conservative. I hate to inform you and your disillusioned leftists friends but it is going to be liberals and progressives that are going to further ostracized and ignored in the public because of their Anti- American socialist views. Get used to it.
# what false quarrel?? there is s a real fight going on in America to save it from the far left fringe . So you found a Shaksepeare quote to say ther is no quarrel – isn’t that special.
#30 unbelievable- why is it that leftists denigrate anyone’s intilligence who dares disagree with the liberal lockstep? If you think that just because someone disagrees with you they are not as smart as you then you have automatically lost the battle. But go ahead and think of yourselves smarter than everybody else and live in your own little insular little world. I daresy that it is liberals who are not smart enought to see that their ideology is a dying one and that if you keep underestimating your enemy then you are further along on the path of self destruction but I happily welcome the total downfall of liberalism!
July 2nd, 2006 at 12:39 pm
madashell says:

moonbat – “Thou art like a toad; ugly and venemous.”

and repeating your lies does not make it true. A-HOLE
July 2nd, 2006 at 12:54 pm
madashell says:

If only moonbat guano realized his statements are just plain ignorant vitriol.
July 2nd, 2006 at 1:03 pm
Brian Coughlan says:

nice try but your typical convoluted liberal thinking just does not work anymore.

What specifically was convoluted about the post. Did it strike you as overly complex and hard to follow? I suspect this may be a reflection on you rather than the comment. I’d be genuinely interested to hear what exactly you found to be “convoluted”.

The canadian “conservatives” are more liberal than anything the US has ever elected, I wouldn’t count on them for much support:-)

why is it that leftists denigrate anyoneâ€™s intilligence who dares disagree with the liberal lockstep?

Why indeed? Come now, lets not be obtuse. There is always a little (and sometimes a lot) of name calling in these forums. Don’t let it get under your skin, chin up and sharpen those arguments. Nothing will get you denigrated as an idiot as quickly as facile and poorly though through positions. Simply restating them reinforces peoples initial impressions of your idiocy.

You have a lot to learn, and this forum may help you. Embrace the experience. Oh and paragraphs, separate your paragraphs.
July 2nd, 2006 at 1:17 pm
Rebel With A Cause says:

There are 231 republican members of congress. 34% of that number would be about 88.

J.D. Hayworth, a reichwing neo-con if there ever was one has obtained 73 signatures on a letter to someone proposing that the press not be allowed in the halls of congress.

We are 15 short, they must have been on break or out screwing their girl friends or just screwing the public in some shape, form or fashhion.

The point is however that the number of reichwing nuts is just about even with 34% who support idiocy in the presidency.
July 2nd, 2006 at 1:20 pm
madashell says:

I hate to inform you and your disillusioned leftists friends but it is going to be liberals and progressives that are going to further ostracized and ignored in the public because of their Anti- American socialist views. Get used to it.

In that case, I STRONGLY suggest you NEVER visit my neck of the woods.
July 2nd, 2006 at 1:21 pm
big papa says:

big papa- you are the most racist, bigoted hypocrite I have heard in a long time.

Comment by moonbat patrol #25

bufoonrat vitriol,

I am not now, nor at any time in this country’s sorry history of race relations…

…have ever been in a position of privilege or power…

…but I can say unequivocally- after all I have experienced in WASP male controlled racist Amerikkka- that were I to somehow miraculously obtain the power and privilege of the al Crackker WASP male…

…I would NOT even entertain the thought of discriminating against, oppressing, or otherwise marginalizing even YOUR TREASONOUS, racist, bigoted, inbred ass…

…yet do not apologize for the fact that I would seek justice and accountability for your (and those like you) TREASON, discriminatory practices, and crimes against humanity…

…my being anathema to your inbred, racist TREASONOUS inhuman kind…

…is a badge of honor for me…

…so THANK YOU for the compliment…
July 2nd, 2006 at 1:34 pm
purvis ames says:

Anyone who even acknowleges the ravings of bought-and paid-for, Rove agent moonbat patrol is, well, you fill in the blank.
July 2nd, 2006 at 2:56 pm
Lily says:

#33 “#30 unbelievable- why is it that leftists denigrate anyoneâ€™s intilligence who dares disagree with the liberal lockstep? If you think that just because someone disagrees with you they are not as smart as you then you have automatically lost the battle.”

No where does Unbelievable claim this person is not as smart as she is. She was illustrating the emotional rather than logical response many conservatives exhibit when faced with something they fear.
July 2nd, 2006 at 2:58 pm
katy says:

No where does unbelievable claim this person is not as smart as she is…
Comment by Lily â€” July 2, 2006 @ 2:58 pm

oh, she has her ways:
The guy is an architect. That means he has some capacity for intelligence.
THAT is condescending… and stereotyping… and belittling…
that’s all i’m sayin’ about that…
July 2nd, 2006 at 3:34 pm
Juan C says:

In a false quarrel there is no true valour. William Shakespeare
Comment by madashell â€” July 2, 2006 @ 10:35
Pal, Moonbat thinks Shakespeare was second place in last Indy race.
July 2nd, 2006 at 5:08 pm
Juan C says:

Iâ€™ve been having a â€˜discussionâ€™ with Tracy. The guy is an architect. That means he has some capacity for intelligence.
Comment by unbelievable
Intelligence and good education is not what defines social conscience and progressive ideas. In your case, it turns out it is: you are an intelligent, sensible and progressive person whether you are an architect or not. Emiliano Zapata never went to school and he has the brigthest ideas about a new economy system that would include everybody.
July 2nd, 2006 at 5:12 pm
Lily says:

oh, she has her ways:
The guy is an architect. That means he has some capacity for intelligence.
THAT is condescendingâ€¦ and stereotypingâ€¦ and belittlingâ€¦

Comment by katy

Katy, I don’t think it is. You’re assuming by her statement that someone who is educated has the capacity for intelligent, rational thinking, that she must also be implying the opposite: that someone who is not educated does not have the capacity for intelligence.
I really don’t think that’s what she meant.
July 2nd, 2006 at 5:40 pm
Lisa the Lurker says:

I actually prefer these architects………sorry for the length but thought it bears posting.
“We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.–That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, –That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.–Such has been the patient sufferance of these Colonies; and such is now the necessity which constrains them to alter their former Systems of Government. The history of the present King of Great Britain is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations, all having in direct object the establishment of an absolute Tyranny over these States. To prove this, let Facts be submitted to a candid world.”

I look forward to the day when our elected representatives get back the business of representing We the People of the United States of America.
July 2nd, 2006 at 6:25 pm
JPark says:

Please, unbelievable and katy…ignore each other. We know you have a bit of animosity toward each other. We don’t need to help the trolls derail threads.
July 2nd, 2006 at 6:36 pm
Zookeeper says:

#47 – What JPark said. Please….?
July 2nd, 2006 at 6:53 pm
unbelievable says:

THAT is condescendingâ€¦ and stereotypingâ€¦ and belittlingâ€¦
thatâ€™s all iâ€™m sayinâ€™ about thatâ€¦
Comment by katy â€” July 2, 2006 @ 3:34 pm

For someone who cuts and pastes her posts because she has nothing valid to say, unless it is to criticize and be condescending to others, you only described yourself in your rant.

No, it’s not all you’ll say about that. You try to ‘one up’ or insult me every chance you get. I’d like to ignore you katy, as you are hardly worth the effort of reading your immature lunacy, but as long as you sling insults and lies, I’m going to call you on the fact that you are showing your ass because you are irrelevent.

I was not being condescending. Quite the opposite. But clearly you aren’t intelliegent enough to get that. Not surprising. Go back to cutting and pasting. It’s less obnoxious than when you actually type something.
July 2nd, 2006 at 7:39 pm
unbelievable says:

Intelligence and good education is not what defines social conscience and progressive ideas. In your case, it turns out it is: you are an intelligent, sensible and progressive person whether you are an architect or not. Emiliano Zapata never went to school and he has the brigthest ideas about a new economy system that would include everybody.
Comment by Juan C â€” July 2, 2006 @ 5:12 pm

You’ve misunderstood my post. Lily was right.
July 2nd, 2006 at 7:43 pm
Amazed says:

Who are these 34% who still live in a continuous state of reality denial? I mean, there’s no way, from anything I’ve seen around me and around this country over the last 5 years, that anyone’s life is getting better since Bush has been in office — anyone except for CEO billionaires and those who already come from super wealthy monied families.

I just don’t get it. How has your life improved since Bush was first installed in office, that is directly related to his “leadership”? Because I have to tell you, he and his corrupt cronies have done nothing personally to improve my life or the lives of anyone I know.
July 2nd, 2006 at 7:45 pm
unbelievable says:

Please, unbelievable and katyâ€¦ignore each other. We know you have a bit of animosity toward each other. We donâ€™t need to help the trolls derail threads.
Comment by JPark â€” July 2, 2006 @ 6:36 pm

I do ignore katy. Until she slanders me, and then I call her on it.

I don’tmake comments to her first at all, as I rarely read her posts. It’s always the other way around. And unless she ignores me, I’m going to stand up to her when she posts lies and insults about me.
July 2nd, 2006 at 7:48 pm
Ho Chi Minh says:

Q: Why is Moonbat up to eyeballs in guano? A: He could not get to the Bat-room. heh, heh
July 2nd, 2006 at 8:14 pm
Jay Randal says:

unbelievable > that Norwegian guy attacked me viciously last night on a TP thread, and I think some people just like to pick fights on here with somebody for the fun of it! I do NOT ever intend to respond to his slanders ever again > it is a big waste of time > PERIOD.
July 2nd, 2006 at 10:09 pm
moonbat patrol says:

what a funny bunch of ignorant pissy little lie-brals there is here. from ho chi min the annoying little gook to faggoty little threats. papa bear just becaue I don’t agree with your socialist child molester theology I am inbred?? you need an attitude adjustment ya fat queer bastard.
you liberal assholes all talk tough but you are the scialist KKK and you are the bigest threat to America since Osama. actually you are worse than osama because you are already in America. you traitorous slanderous small minded turds cannot have a discussion because you are so fascist in you liberalism that any attempt at reason is uselees.
but like I say keep up the good work commie slime moonbats! you just keep on losing elections and America benefits. maybe when the boys come home from claenin up the sand monkeys in Iraq they can start cleaning up some of the commie scum here.
heyall you liberal a- holes BUSH STILL WON IN ‘04!! and we are going to have another republican in ‘08 get used to it all you stupid progressive idiots.

little faggy liberals brave on posts, pussies in real life.
July 2nd, 2006 at 10:35 pm
JPark says:

Moonbat. Hey tough guy, you couldn’t take any of us. You are a pathetic 80 pound troll that has to make himself feel big by talking s*#t on the internet. You got your a$$ beat in elementary school and if you met any of us you would get your a$$ beat now. Go slither back under your rock you little coward.
July 2nd, 2006 at 10:44 pm
JPark says:

Ok, unbelievable, I have seen that but please ignore it. If I see it I will jump on it. It is unnecessary and a waste of all out time.
July 2nd, 2006 at 10:46 pm
Juan C says:

Youâ€™ve misunderstood my post. Lily was right.
Comment by unbelievable â€” July 2, 2006 @ 7:43 pm
Sorry.
July 2nd, 2006 at 11:04 pm
lurker says:

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July 3rd, 2006 at 2:26 am
Ho Chi Minh says:

#58 Lora; wow, you really socked it to Monnbat. Way to go. You go girl!
July 3rd, 2006 at 7:55 am
Ho Chi Minh says:

#58 Lora; wow, you really socked it to Moonbat. Way to go. You go girl!
July 3rd, 2006 at 7:55 am
Ho Chi Minh says:

#58 Lora; wow, you really socked it to Moonbat. Way to go. You go girl!
July 3rd, 2006 at 7:55 am
unbelievable says:

Ok, unbelievable, I have seen that but please ignore it. If I see it I will jump on it. It is unnecessary and a waste of all out time.
Comment by JPark â€” July 2, 2006 @ 10:46 pm

Sorry, but I can’t control katy’s behavior. And I won’t ignore it. If she understands that there are consequences to attacking me for no reason, then eventually, she will stop. Ignoring her only sends a message that there are no consequences to being a bully and she will do it more because it’s feeding a need to feel better about herself by putting me down. And I’m not interested in helping the yippie dogs bite my ankles.
July 3rd, 2006 at 8:26 am
unbelievable says:

I just read the comments in the Ann Coulter thread. If we want to talk about wasting our time…

I don’t even think Moonbat is serious. He’s just an antagonist who gets off on upsetting people, yet nearly every thread in that post was a response to him. Nearly 42 of them. As were many in this thread.

I don’t read his nonsense. And I don’t respond to him when he addresses me because he isn’t interested in dialog. Just getting attention. He certainly takes up more space than he deserves. As does MA, Seixxon and their ilk.

Wanna get rid of the trash? Let’s not everyone respond to the trolls. One or two dismissive comments should suffice. Don’t you think?
July 3rd, 2006 at 8:40 am
moonbat patrol says:

#64 make no mistake little girl I am real, i am very real and I hate liberals and progressievs with a fine passion. I hate what they are dfoing to this country MY COUNTRY. and I am just the tip of the spear.
July 3rd, 2006 at 8:57 am
The Storms Blog » Blog Archive » 66 at Think Progress says:

[...] Think Progress is reporting that according to a new Time magazine poll, 66% of Americans believe America is on the “wrong track”.Â Can someone explain what that means.Â I wonder how many of that 66% could articulate what they think the “right track” would be, or if all 66% could even name their 2 Senators.Â I doubt it. [...]
July 3rd, 2006 at 9:31 am
Ho Chi Minh says:

Moonbat, why do you bother posting here? Go back to reading Mein Kampf.
July 3rd, 2006 at 10:44 am
unbelievable says:

Sorry.
Comment by Juan C â€” July 2, 2006 @ 11:04 pm

No problem. My point was simply that I’ve had discussions with him before that were thoughtful and intelligent – but that his intellect seems to disolve everytime his fear appears, and that he uses it (the fear) rather than his intelligence to form opinions on the occupation of Iraq.

I used to know a psychologist who told me that when people are afraid, the logic portions of their brain shut down and they resort to the portion that governs “fight or flight”. So, when we become afraid, it doesn’t matter how smart we are, since that area is blocked from use. It’s why fear worls so well in manipulating people to buy into fighting… and why these folks defend the Iraqi war which is utterly irrational and criminal.
July 3rd, 2006 at 12:28 pm
eblair says:

#65 “make no mistake little girl I am real, i am very real and I hate liberals and progressievs with a fine passion. I hate what they are dfoing to this country MY COUNTRY. and I am just the tip of the spear”

what is with this right wing victim complex? what liberals are doing to your country?? Liberals don’t control the White House or Congress. They don’t control the courts–about 2/3 of federal judges were appointed by Repub presidents (who have occupied the White House for 18 of the last 26 and 26 of the last 38 years). Repubs have had a majority of governorships since 1994, and are currently ahead 28-22. what exactly are liberals doing to this country? complaining really loudly?

newsflash: we crazy liberals are out of power. The people making decisions–about how to respond to Al qaeda, where to go to war, how to tax and how to spend, how to regulate, what kind of hearings to provide to detainees at Guantanamo Bay, whether to allow abortion rights, whether to allow prayer in schools are NOT liberals. If you have a problem with how the country is being run, direct your venom to those who are running it–people like Pres Bush, VP Cheney, Rep, Hastert, Sen Frist, etc.

When the Democrats regain power, then you can blame them. But right now, your feeling of being victimized by powerless liberals is hard to understand
July 3rd, 2006 at 4:59 pm
eblair says:

65 and to be clear Moonbat, on the day before July 4, this is our country. It’s for all of us. Putting “my country” in caps doesn’t magically give you the right to throw liberals, progressives, and other desirables out
July 3rd, 2006 at 5:06 pm
eblair says:

that’s “undesirables” I don’t do hate well, even when I’m being sarcastic
July 3rd, 2006 at 5:07 pm
moonbat patrol says:

# 58 hey girlfriend glad you were offended. You don’t have the right to not be offended in America. too freakin bad, go whine to somebody who cares. you probably deserved what you got. I did not even read your post after you claimed to be a victim or almost a victim . Yeah everybody’s a victim who cares. so you pulled some names out of your fat ass to denigrate conservatives. In response I give you two words- ted kennedy who murdered some poor gilr and got away with it and STILL serves in congress.
# 67 what are you doing here ? shouldn’t you be slopping in the rice paddies with little gook boys and reading Karl Marx or something?
poor little liberals always whining and groveling . now onder your party loses- now go to Canada or France and shut up!
July 3rd, 2006 at 5:53 pm
Lora says:

#72 moonbat
No 10 year old child deserves to be molested, plain and simple. If you think otherwise, then you are in fact promoting a child molestation agenda. I don’t claim to be a victim, as I managed to escape.
I am not defending Ted Kennedy, but the woman passenger in his car was 29; so that hardly makes him a pedophile. And since you are into fatal car accidents of the 1960s, here’s another one for you, from nndb.com
“On the night of November 6, 1963, 17-year-old Laura Welch (Bush) ran a stop sign in the family Chevy at the intersection of State Highway 349 and Farm Road 868 near Midland, Texas. She plowed into a Corvair sedan, killing its driver — classmate (and purported boyfriend) Michael Dutton Douglas. ”
You were asked to substantiate your claim about the liberals’ s0-called “child molestation” agenda. You haven’t. And incidentally, I wear a size 6–sometimes a $–so my ass is hardly fat by American standards.
July 3rd, 2006 at 6:22 pm
Lora says:

The line above should read “sometimes a 4;” I hit the capital letter button too soon.
July 3rd, 2006 at 6:25 pm
lyn says:

These starched and pressed perverts are STILL plotting on the country’s Social Security lockbox. Getting their tax relief wasn’t enough-now they want to play Monopoly with the nation’s working class stash.
July 3rd, 2006 at 6:46 pm
JPark says:

Moonbat, I am glad you are here!!! It means you are not molesting little kids you sick bastard.
July 3rd, 2006 at 9:18 pm
eblair says:

72 Moonbat–you are an absolute embarrassment as is clear to anyone who reads your posts. not sure what you’re trying to accomplish, but this is really ugly, ignorant stuff
July 4th, 2006 at 12:06 am
eblair says:

73 Lora–never heard that about Laura Bush. interesting…
July 4th, 2006 at 12:10 am
Lora says:

eblair,
You’re welcome. You can find more details on wikipedia or by googling “Laura Bush’s car accident.”
July 4th, 2006 at 12:28 am
Mike Douglas says:

Lora:

Yea,Laura could really be vicious when she was angry and jealous about me.(DoA)
July 4th, 2006 at 3:05 am
moonbat patrol says:

76 & 77 I am no child molester- faggot you leftards . I guess I am anomoly here, I am a white , heterosexual male . hey it’s your progressive ideology that defends homos and child molesters not mine.
#77 you progressives are the ones that are hypocritical embarrassments to the American way of life.
and back to # 58 you said you “escaped” being molested- does that make you an almost victim? Your long winded but useless diatribe proves nothing as is usual of most liberal littanies. Nobody deserves having to listen to liberals But you do defend your ass quite convincingly tho- good job ! you go girl.
you liberal-progresives are funny little animals . all you ranting and raving and trying so desperately to prove that your idiotic agenda is viable is just hilarious. All your anger over Bush winning in 2004 and both houses of congress being republican makes me glad.
but Happy fourth of July to you Anti- American libnerals and GOD BLESS AMERICA, may it be free from liberalism forever!
July 4th, 2006 at 8:42 am
big papa says:

buffoonrant-on-parole #81…

…is intelectually, morally, and spiritually BANKRUPT…

…his soul belongs to HIS gods Bushiva and L’il Dick…

…may he and all of his lineage (sharing his TREASONOUS, disgustingly inhumane beliefs)…

…ROT IN HELL!…
July 4th, 2006 at 1:48 pm
eblair says:

MP–you continue to embarass yourself with each post. as I said, this is ugly, ignorant stuff. Your hate-filled, brain-dead posts speak for themselves and contribute to the stereotype of right-wingers as bigots who hurl ad hominem insults at the left
July 4th, 2006 at 3:49 pm
moonbat patrol says:

ad hominem insults are the only thing that gets thru to liberals. reasoning, common sense and reality sure as hell don’t cut it. I gues it’s ok when lefttards attack conservatives tho right?? I present as my evidence your contemptous silence on post #83. nothing like displaying for the world your hypocrisy. I am almost embarassed for you eblair, I don’t even have to make a fool of you you do it all yourself.
July 4th, 2006 at 6:07 pm
Lora says:

Moonbat,
I’m not sure that you even deserve a reply, however until now I had never even considered whether I was what you call an “almost victim.” All I know is that the molestation attempt was a very frightening experience for a 10-year old, and I can imagine that such things must be 100s–or 1000s–of times worse for kids who actually end up violated. The attempt on me when I was 16 wasn’t as frightening, as the man wasn’t so much larger than myself, and I was sure I could get out of his clutches–which I did. It only got frightening when he started stalking me afterwards, which is when I finally told my parents, and my GOP stepfather went to the police, who didn’t doubt what I said at all.
In the meantime, while your “tough-on-terrorism” party has been worrying about gay marriages and flag-burning, North Korea, which has been boasting for years of its nuclear capacity for years, has started testing missiles, and it has closed the CIA special office for Osama bin Ladin, who was actually responsible for 9/11. I hope you are proud.
July 4th, 2006 at 8:39 pm
eblair says:

85–MP–I donb’t really understand your post–I have never used personal attacks to insult you. I have not said it is ok for anyone to slur anyone–whether it is a liberal calling a conservative names or vice versa. My contemptuous silence about what???

I am glad you have concluded that ad hominem insults are the only thing that get thru to liberals. I don’t really know what to say to something as vacuous as that. Maybe you meant that as a joke.
July 4th, 2006 at 10:42 pm
eblair says:

Lora–you don’t in any way need to defend your description of a molestation attempt. The fact that someone would see that as something to deride is beyond words
July 4th, 2006 at 10:44 pm
moonbat patrol says:

yeah, yeah, yeah to you you liberals everybody except white men (unless they are gay of course) are victims.
I mean why even bring up the point the you were ALMOST molested??
and eblair is this the way you pick up emotionally crippled women?? by acting all gushy and sincere and sympathetic?? you are pathetic but then again you are a liberal or progresive or whatever you call yourselves this week.
July 5th, 2006 at 9:28 am
Lora says:

moonbat,
The point was brought up to ask you to substantiate your charges that the liberals have a child molestation agenda. Many of the posters here have children, and it is possible that other female posters here have experienced molestation attempts as I did as children, so your charges are not cute or funny; they are libelous. And although I produced a list of several dozen GOP men charged with pedophilia, you couldn’t come up with even one Democrat. Even I wouldn’t doubt that you could find at least one if you did a little research–which you are obviously unwilling to do.
No one but your paranoid self has ever said that everyone but hetereosexual white men can be victims. However, I get the impression that you think child molestation should be taken seriously only when a blonde (most likely Republican, if from Utah) kid like Elizabeth Smart is involved. Sorry: I’m not quite blond, but I am a very fair-skinned Caucasian and even had a Republican stepfather. In any case, the police took the case seriously. Now that’s all I care to say on this unless you can substantiate your “child molestation charges.”
July 5th, 2006 at 6:09 pm

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