ThinkFast PM: July 5, 2006
ThinkFast PM: July 5, 2006
“Craig Durrett, editorial page editor of the Shreveport (La.) Times, revealed in a column in his paper that he is considering dropping Ann Coulter as a columnist, and in fact, has ‘come close’ before.â€
Sen. James Inhofe’s (R-OK) spokesman responds to criticism of his use of taxpayer funds to smear Al Gore. The spokesman’s response suggests he finds it “scarcely noteworthy that Senate committees are used for the personal partisan vendettas of their chairs.â€
Nature publishes a list of the top 50 science blogs. Pharyngula (who tops the list) explains his success.
Weak on cybersecurity: Nearly a year after Homeland Security Secretary Chertoff announced the creation of a Cabinet-level cybersecurity czar, the position remains vacant.
Following up on the Hamdan decision, Secrecy News provides its readers with documents that “provide rich background on military law.â€
And finally: Lindsay Beyerstein discovers that only 40 states have official State fossils, and is helping the remaining 10 find fossils of their own.
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And finally: Lindsay Beyerstein discovers that only 40 states have official State fossils, and is helping the remaining 10 find fossils of their own.
News organzations ought to have official fossils, too. Like Fox News.
I nominate Bill O’Rielly.
Can I get a second on this?
July 5th, 2006 at 7:22 pmI second that Joe SIxpack.
“Gotta protect them Internets from them terrists”
July 5th, 2006 at 7:29 pmHmmmm, the only state fossils that I can name are Minnesota’s Walter Mondale and Tennessee’s Al Gore….
What are some of the others?
July 5th, 2006 at 7:32 pmHe’s “considering” dropping Ann Coulter as a columnist?
July 5th, 2006 at 7:35 pmConsidering!?
CONSIDERING!?
No.
You consider whether or not you should eat desert after that pasta dish.
You consider whether or not you give that girl you met at the bar a call this week or next week.
You consider whether or not to buy that thing you’ve always wanted over those things you most certainly need.
You don’t however, ever ever ever, ever, consider dropping Ann Coulter.
YOU JUST DO IT
Oh, there’s also Massachusette’s state fossil Ted Kennedy, preserved in alcohol.
July 5th, 2006 at 7:38 pmDon’t forget Texas’ George W. Bush preserved with cocaine and alcohol.
July 5th, 2006 at 7:44 pm#6, Spudge Boy,
There are plenty of “out-of-office” Republicans you could name, and since dubya is still in office, I will give you another try …
July 5th, 2006 at 7:51 pm#7 Jason M. Hendler,
There are plenty of “out-of-office†Democrats you could name, and since Teddy is still in office, I will give you another try …
July 5th, 2006 at 7:55 pmEr, you mean the Hamdan decision. Hamdi was a previous Supreme Court case. Don’t flame me, I’m not a troll :)
July 5th, 2006 at 8:19 pm#8, Spudge_boy,
Yes, but Kennedy is sooooo old, and the “Kennedy dynasty” is soooooo last century, so again, I will give you another try ….
July 5th, 2006 at 8:22 pm#10, you got something against old people?
July 5th, 2006 at 8:24 pmDo you think that the Bush dynasty is new? You know Prescott Bush was the Senator of Conneticut right.
You try again.
I stand behind George W Bush being fully embalmed with cocaine and alcohol.
July 5th, 2006 at 8:27 pm#4; I agree, Drop that Man-bitch!!!!!
July 5th, 2006 at 8:36 pmAnyway, are you teary-eyed over the death of Ken Lay? Yeah, me, too. So I think an honest, unsentimental obituary is in order.
July 5th, 2006 at 8:51 pmThe fossils are the old, leftist media that has been exposed as the democrat operatives that they are.
Ann Coulter is pretty mild though compared to the fascist vitriol that the left spews on a daily basis.
July 5th, 2006 at 9:05 pm“Craig Durrett, editorial page editor of the Shreveport (La.) Times, revealed in a column in his paper that he is considering dropping Ann Coulter as a columnist, and in fact, has ‘come close’ before.â€
Gee Craig, what’s it gonna take?
July 5th, 2006 at 9:09 pmWeak on cybersecurity: Nearly a year after Homeland Security Secretary Chertoff announced the creation of a Cabinet-level cybersecurity czar, the position remains vacant.
This just in, Homeland Security Secretary today appointed Ken Lay cybersecurity czar…
July 5th, 2006 at 9:14 pmoh goody! i’ve missed P.M…. let’s see what i can find…
this is VERY important!
Stop supporting companies that don’t support your values.
July 5th, 2006 at 9:16 pmReward companies that have a triple bottom line:
People, Planet and Profit.
http://www.buyblue.org/ click on FIND to start!
Idaho state fossil: Equus simplicidens — Mr. Ed
July 5th, 2006 at 9:18 pmdisappointing news about boxer… why?
The NYT is reporting that Joe Biden will bring his bleached teeth and hair transplants to Connecticut to campaign for Holy Joe (and that’s the last I want to hear about “outside interference” from Camp Lieberman). He’ll be joined by fellow Alito-lover Ken Salazar, and sadly, Barbara Boxer:
July 5th, 2006 at 9:20 pmhttp://www.firedoglake.com/2006/07/05/heelllppp/
#15 thank you Rick ! finally somebody surfaces here with some sense!!
July 5th, 2006 at 9:23 pmliberalism is a dying philosophy doomed to be studied by future political palaeontologists . In looking back they will ponder the question WTF were these people thinking?
liberalism itself wil be preserves in the amniotic amber of stupid, failed ideas and remembered as the communist coprolite of mental disorders.
Off topic, sorry, but, why is everybody concerned with Korean missiles (OK, I can understand somewhat) which so far have not hit any ground, and less killed people, while Israel, another crazy, militarist, nuke owner, are bombing bridges, houses, facilities and people in Palestine. Thats hypocresy.
July 5th, 2006 at 9:25 pm#14 – jurassicpork, you and the missus have a lovely evening. :-D
July 5th, 2006 at 9:26 pmzooey – heh!
what the heck is a
July 5th, 2006 at 9:27 pmTully Monster – Tullimonstrum gregarium ???
liberalism is a dying philosophy doomed to be studied by future political palaeontologists
Comment by Moonbat patrol
Wow, you are really ignorant, buddy.
liberalism itself wil be preserves in the amniotic amber of stupid, failed ideas and remembered as the communist coprolite of mental disorders.
July 5th, 2006 at 9:29 pmTRULY IGNORANT.
Reply to #20:
katy, did you read the link you supplied? Joe stated that he believed that hospitals who did not want to supply contraceptives for rape victims on grounds of ‘principle’ shouldn’t be required to do so.
Needless to say, the constituency of Connecticut are not terribly happy with this stance, especially since 78% of them think that emergency contraception should be avaliable at Catholic hospitals. The fact that Boxer supports such a candidate is manifestly disappointing.
July 5th, 2006 at 9:30 pmgoogle is amazing…
The Tully Monster (Tullimonstrum gregarium), so far apparently unique to Illinois, was a soft-bodied invertebrate that lived… about 300 million years ago.
WHAT??? how can that be??? (snark)
i found a listing for “reichmoonbatticus onpatrolofitsanus” also…
July 5th, 2006 at 9:34 pmbut it’s not fit to print!
Tully Monster – Tullimonstrum gregarium ???
Comment by katy
Ick, looks like a big invertebrate turd.
July 5th, 2006 at 9:34 pm#15 thank you Rick ! finally somebody surfaces here with some sense!!
liberalism is a dying philosophy doomed to be studied by future political palaeontologists . In looking back they will ponder the question WTF were these people thinking?
liberalism itself wil be preserves in the amniotic amber of stupid, failed ideas and remembered as the communist coprolite of mental disorders.
Comment by moonbat patrol — July 5, 2006 @ 9:23 pm
moonbat patrol…amber !! like jurrasic park? so you think you fascist will endure, like kings and roylaltie ? You might want to check in with the French and see how that is going, also the Russians and the Brits. Go clean up your room.
July 5th, 2006 at 9:35 pmThe fact that Boxer supports such a candidate is manifestly disappointing.
Comment by TripMaster Monkey
I agree. Boxer should not let herself anywhere near Lieberman. It hurts her more than it helps him, and he needs to spend more time with the family.
July 5th, 2006 at 9:37 pmComment by TripMaster Monkey — July 5, 2006 @ 9:30 pm
yes, i read (most of) that link… i remember when that story hit the news, when holy joe made this statement:
“In Connecticut, it shouldn’t take more than a short ride to get to another hospital,”
that was probably the official beginning of the end for him… at least i hope he’s done…
i remember groaning when gore announced him as running mate… that was a fatal mistake, in my opinion… the guy’s a downer…
July 5th, 2006 at 9:41 pmKaty, is it true.? Sob, and another one hits the dust. Damn, I liked her to. Well no doubt about it it’s time to clean the house and senate out..Good by Boxer you and Joe have a nice retirement, ya hear…….
July 5th, 2006 at 9:42 pmNearly a year after Homeland Security Secretary Chertoff announced the creation of a Cabinet-level cybersecurity czar, the position remains vacant.
Reporting vacancies at the czar level only helps the terrorists.
July 5th, 2006 at 9:56 pmwell, sharon – i truly understand what you’re saying, BUT…
while lieberman is running against a REAL democrat in this primary, i am adament that voting for any other than DEMOCRATIC candidate will be disastrous for this country – the ONLY hope we have for taking back the congress and seeing checks and balances, rule of law, etc., is an OVERWHELMING DEMOCRATIC TURNOUT – THEY CANT STEAL THE ELECTION IF IT’S NOT CLOSE!
is boxer running this year? you are oregon, right?
July 5th, 2006 at 9:58 pmmaybe she will change her mind about this… even clinton said she would support the dem candidate AFTER this primary – as it should be…
And don’t forget the good news in Iraq!
“Production has risen to 2.5 million barrels per day (bpd) from a steady 2 million bpd during the US-led invasion, Iraq’s new oil minister said.
Hussain al-Shahristani added that production was expected to rise to 2.7 million bpd by the end of the year.
“We have been able to break records,” he said of the government, which has been in place for just over a month.
Before the war, output was around 3 million bpd, peaking at a record of 3.5 million bpd…”
Oh, I guess it’s not that good, but better than nothing.
bbc link
July 5th, 2006 at 10:06 pmlinked to digby via crooks and liars –
July 5th, 2006 at 10:11 pminteresting remarks about john mccain, “Maverick Mambo”…
but read the first 2 posts above that also…
http://digbysblog.blogspot.com/2006_07_01_digbysblog_archive.html#115212421152331813
Reply to #35:
Many people cite those figures as proof that Dubya & Company didn’t have oil as a prime motive in this misbegotten war…after all, there’s less oil now than before, right?
What these people fail to understand is that it’s not in Dubya & Company’s interests to get the oil out, but rather to keep it right where it is…under the sand. Witholding some of the supply makes the oil they legitimately own more valuable.
July 5th, 2006 at 10:17 pm# 38 glad to see you put that tinfoil hat back on and are now recieving tleported messages from Kos , du and common dreams. getting any interference out there in progressive land?? You morons are like a bad episode of x-files that just won’t quit. What’s next in conspiracy land… I just can’t wait.
July 5th, 2006 at 10:20 pmReply to #38:
# 38 glad to see you put that tinfoil hat back on…
Way to go, moonbat…you’ve successfully cut out the middleman and worte a post replying to itself.
Now that your rampant non sequiturs and ad homenim attacks are unimpeded by the rationality of the majority of the posters on this board, you’re free to plumb exciting new depths of idiocy!
Have fun, and thank you for making it unnecessary to participate in your headlong descent into mediocrity.
July 5th, 2006 at 10:28 pm# 38 glad to see you put that tinfoil hat back on and are now recieving tleported messages from Kos , du and common dreams. getting any interference out there in progressive land?? You morons are like a bad episode of x-files that just won’t quit. What’s next in conspiracy land… I just can’t wait.
Comment by moonbat patrol — July 5, 2006 @ 10:20 pm
moonbat-there are no bad episodes of the x-files. by the way your the one with the tin foil hat. The gays are out to get you just after they burn your flag while speaking espanol climbing over the fence with Osama and can’t recite all ten commandments and think O’lielly is a sex prediture of females that work for him and Limburg needs blue pills to get “up” for his show.
July 5th, 2006 at 10:32 pmAl Gore made only one mistake in the 2000 election. According to the Constitution, it is the right of the states to select nominees to the electoral college. The Supremes overstepped their authority in severing a recount of the results which has subsequently shown that W lost in Florida. The Supremes vacated the recount based on selectivity rather then opting for expanding its basis. Al should have challenged that decision. The dubious and illegal decision delivered by a mere five partisans, has resulted in well over one hundred thousand deaths, 5500 of them, Americans.
July 5th, 2006 at 10:33 pmmoonbat–have a nice day. You make life even more fun. A complete turd like you does not come along this often. enjoy, get your nose up close to “turd blossom” and smell his $arts. Don’t foreget to wipe your nose.
July 5th, 2006 at 10:38 pmKaty, no, I am in Washington. I’m going independent. Any one in favor of the war is not getting my vote or support………44 years of being a staunch supporter of the Dem’s is enough for me……Cantwell will not get my vote this time, in fact am working to get her out and replaced by any one other than a republican…..Blessings
July 5th, 2006 at 10:40 pmGood post Walt. Sad we can’t impeach or recall this bunch befor more die for their folly….Blessings
July 5th, 2006 at 10:48 pmHere’s my criteria for a presidential candidate:
1) Must be in favor of withdrawing troops (timetable preferred).
2) Must know how to properly pronounce the word ‘nuclear’.
3) Must be willing to press charges of treason against the criminals that have hijacked our country.
(Not that it matters….unless something changes radically, the Repubs are just going to steal the 2008 election like they did the 2004 and 2000 elections. Hell…between the improved skill that comes with practice, and the ever-increasing apathy and hopelessness of the American public, every election just gets easier for them to rig.)
July 5th, 2006 at 10:49 pmTripmaster, but of course. Oil prices hit a new record today. I’ve believed for a while now that it wasn’t just oil. Did you read the Fromkin piece today where he said again what Cheney said?
It’s about projecting US power in the region. If so, we really messed that one up. We look weaker now than before. I also liked the article about our missile defense saying that testing it and showing that it doesn’t work is really really bad. Oh well, it’s only money.
July 5th, 2006 at 10:50 pmMoonbat Patrol, just a clarification – there’s nothing liberal about the left. Leftism is more about fascist statism.
July 5th, 2006 at 10:52 pmBlessings Sharon, sleep tight and don’t let the bed bugs bite.
July 5th, 2006 at 10:52 pmreplaced by any one other than a republican
Comment by Sharon Cox — July 5, 2006 @ 10:40 pm
if that’s possible, by all means, go for it…
July 5th, 2006 at 10:55 pmgood luck!
Leftism is more about fascist statism.
hoooo-wee! now that’s a new one! rich!
July 5th, 2006 at 11:00 pmLeftism is more about fascist statism.
Comment by Rick
No, no, no, no, no. Just because you keep equating the left with fascism, doesn’t make it so.
July 5th, 2006 at 11:05 pmI suppose you could have Leftist Statism; and you could have Fascist Statism; but no, leftism is not about fascist statism.
July 5th, 2006 at 11:08 pmkaty, is it just me, or does Rick do this everytime he comes here?
July 5th, 2006 at 11:09 pmLeftism is more about fascist statism.
hoooo-wee! now that’s a new one! rich!
Comment by katy — July 5, 2006 @ 11:00 pm
That is close to a oxymoron. No insult meant -am with both of you most of the time.
July 5th, 2006 at 11:09 pmReply to #51:
Zooey, don’t be so hard on Rick….after all, the Repubs have elevated the process of repeating lies until they are perceived as truth to a level of refinement undreamt of even by Orwell. Rick’s just trying to emulate his Repub idols…fortunately, he’s not quite as skilled as Machiavelli^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^HRove.
July 5th, 2006 at 11:13 pm#56 – I hate stupid on purpose.
July 5th, 2006 at 11:18 pmZooey, sadly we can’t fix stupid, on purpose or not…Stupid is just stupid, forever…….Nite all…….Blessings
July 5th, 2006 at 11:39 pmhey zooey – had to watch daily show… colbert on now, in background… both are repeats…
so, i wonder – if tonight, why not last night and monday also? ah well…
about the rick troll – it’s not you…
tripmaster is correct about repeating those lies…
but this one was pretty far out there… wonder who made that one up?
hey, did you check out the “fossil” i found, #27?
July 5th, 2006 at 11:41 pmno comment? (usually hate to fish, but i gotta know)
Tully Monster – Tullimonstrum gregarium ???
Comment by katy
Ick, looks like a big invertebrate turd.
July 5th, 2006 at 11:47 pmI just watched the Daily Show repeat. Anderson Cooper is simply adorable, but he has the most annoying laugh.
July 5th, 2006 at 11:49 pmI love it, Stephen Colbert is going to out Bay Buchanan for the halfwit she is.
July 5th, 2006 at 11:52 pmand joe friday – no insult taken… yea, it could be close to an oxymoron… the fascist-statist is probably redundant also… either/or, it’s a screwy twist on an old meme… a false one at that…
July 5th, 2006 at 11:53 pm“A government consultant, using computer programs easily found on the Internet, managed to crack the FBI’s classified computer system and gain the passwords of 38,000 employees, including that of FBI Director Robert S. Mueller III,” Eric M. Weiss will report in Thursday editions of The Washington Post.
July 5th, 2006 at 11:53 pmNearly a year after Homeland Security Secretary Chertoff announced the creation of a Cabinet-level cybersecurity czar, the position remains vacant.
So HOmeland Security is working, right?
Marie, I know I feel as snug as a bug in a rug.
July 6th, 2006 at 12:00 amBut, of course, I like dust bunnies in my ears. :P
#63 – Marie,
July 6th, 2006 at 12:06 amSo what?
ok, zooey – the TP numbers are never right for me… so i will just answer in order of your posts…
59. fossil = the post before that is 27 on my screen:
i found a listing for “reichmoonbatticus onpatrolofitsanus†also…
but it’s not fit to print!
Comment by katy — July 5, 2006 @ 9:34 pm
60. interesting – the daily show repeat HERE is author of Political Fight Club
61. colbert’s is the author of Misquoting Jesus…
is it the time difference? but wait – you must be watching the evening edition, and i just watched the 10pmcentral normal time edition… (get that?)
confusing – i remember jon saying that anderson cooper would be on tomorrows show…
oh well…
fyi – my comment to joefriday is 62… on my screen…
July 6th, 2006 at 12:07 amkaty the numbers and posts are all messed up again. I’m not even seeing your “reichmoonbatticus onpatrolofitsanus†post. That’s a good one. :P
#62 on my screen is me talking about the guest on Colbert. Weird. Several times in the last week, I’ve posted something, and then POOF, it’s gone. Maybe TP’s spam filter has gone around the bend.
My house has finally cooled off, so I’m going to do dishes. Brace yourself for more heat, girl!
July 6th, 2006 at 12:17 amwell, that explains why i didn’t get a rise out of it!
you dont even see that post? huh…
yesterday, a front moved through, with some rain early in the day, another cell fizzled out that night, but today was just fantastic! low 80s, no humidity, breezy… ahhh… a few more days expected then the heat again… i hate the 90s… temps of course…
btw – getting wordpress windows again…
bill maher on letterman tomorrow…
July 6th, 2006 at 12:37 amand joe friday – no insult taken… yea, it could be close to an oxymoron… the fascist-statist is probably redundant also… either/or, it’s a screwy twist on an old meme… a false one at that…
Comment by katy — July 5, 2006 @ 11:53 pm
Not the 13th letter??
July 6th, 2006 at 12:42 amNot the 13th letter??
Comment by Joefriday — July 6, 2006 @ 12:42 am
uh… sorry, you lost me… it’s late…
July 6th, 2006 at 12:51 amand at times, i’m dense… but fill me in…
katy & zooey –just kidding. been trying to get it on with the knuckel draggers IRI and moonbat for some time. The creeps run off if you turn the lights on. When you confront them because you know them they freak out and hide. Moonbat is a complete dip$hit and coward. He is a freak of nature. Hey moonbat, 8675309 ! got it?
July 6th, 2006 at 12:54 amhere’s rick on the congressman/missile defense thread…
he’s all confused – not sure just WHAT to call WHO…
As usual, the stalinist left on this site blame Bush and not their fascist friend, Kim Jung “Be†Illing.
July 6th, 2006 at 1:05 amComment by Rick — July 5, 2006 @ 6:52 pm
Interesting development occuring in the Mexican standoff election tonight > Calderon the right wing candidate who insisted he was the winner, period, is now losing in the recount of the ballots that Obrador demanded to be done! The far-right tried to steal the election, with help from American Bush Regime cronies, but now the whole thing is backfiring on Mexico’s elite who have been exposed in fraud trying to get their stooge Calderon in as president! We must all cross our fingers that Obrador wins, because he truely wants to help the poor in Mexico, which wouldl lesson them to flee into the US seeking low-paid jobs! VIVA Obrador and NADA Calderon!
July 6th, 2006 at 1:11 ami got it – i got it – i got your number on the wall
i got it – i got it – for a good time call…
funny story – self and 2 girlfriends in sarasota, ‘81…
out partying… next morning one girl tells us how
she’s got her hottie’s phone number and reads it to us -
i thought we were gonna die laughing… never did tell
the poor thing about that number… but every time i hear that song…
oops – just gave it away, joe…
it’s way past g’nite!
July 6th, 2006 at 1:17 am# 56-Zooey:
Why in the world would you say that about yourself ?
July 6th, 2006 at 1:48 amReply to #73:
Don’t count on it, Jay. the latest news is that Calderon has gained a ‘razor-thin’ lead with 98 percent of the vote in. Sound familiar?
I only hope that The Mexican people have the guts to do what us spineless Americans did not. The world needs a new beacon of light and truth, now that Lady Liberty’s torch has been thoroughly extinguished.
July 6th, 2006 at 7:51 amPost 76 > I lived in Florida in 2000 and we should have taken to the streets to have prevented
July 6th, 2006 at 8:34 amBush from stealing the election > the citizens of Mexico must not allow the stooge Calderon to get away with fraudulently stealing the presidency! Dick Morris is down there helping him to manipulate the press to insinuate that Obrador is trying to cheat to win, just like Bush swine did to Gore in 2000! Mexicans must not allow it and shame that Americans failed to stop it!
I just watched the Daily Show repeat. Anderson Cooper is simply adorable, but he has the most annoying laugh.
Comment by Zooey aka Zookeeper — July 5, 2006 @ 11:49 pm
I don’t get some peoples obsession with him, what is great about him? Ok he’s a gay newsanchor, big deal. I’ve watched his show a few times and he does the same inane vacuous stories as everyone else. I guess it just takes more than prematurely greying hair to impress nowadays.
July 6th, 2006 at 8:41 amPost 78 > Cooper is alleged to be Gay > he has not confirmed or denied it! His coverage of the Hurricane Katrina aftermath is the reason he has lots of fans who watch his show, but actually he acts like a typical CNN talking head now! Lou Dobbs has more viewers now!
July 6th, 2006 at 8:50 amI agree Jay, Dobbs is far better…He ask’s the tough questions no one else seems to want to ask…….I even agree with many of his opinions. Wonder if he is a Dem, Rep. or independent. Any one know the answer to that.?…..Blessings
July 6th, 2006 at 9:02 am#80, Sharon,
Have you watched Nora O’Donnell substituting for Chris Matthews for the last week or so? I think she asks far more penetrating questions than anyone, all while being easy on the eyes. If MSNBC doesn’t give her a show, Fox News or CNN should grab her while they can.
July 6th, 2006 at 9:05 amNora does an ok job, I think she tends to lean right however. I watched her interview Cindy Sheehan yesterday and she did a good job. Cindy annoys me however, she lost me when she starting carrying water for Hugo Chavez, that guy is a dictator and a tyrant.
July 6th, 2006 at 9:13 amReply to #81:
I think she [Nora] asks far more penetrating questions than anyone
Oh yes….fantastically ‘penetrating’ questions, such as asking if Cindy Sheehan has become ‘a puppet of the left’, and asking her directly if her hunger protest is ‘just a publicity stunt’. Penetrating, indeed.
all while being easy on the eyes.
Because, of course, that’s a prime requirement of a newsperson…much more important than objectivity and fairness.
If MSNBC doesn’t give her a show, Fox News or CNN should grab her while they can.
At least here we’re in agreement…Nora would fit right in at Faux News.
July 6th, 2006 at 9:17 amshe lost me when she starting carrying water for Hugo Chavez, that guy is a dictator and a tyrant.
Comment by onthefence — July 6, 2006 @ 9:13 am
Eh? How so? Because the concensus among those who read independent news sources is that he was elected by the people of Venezuela and not awarded the job by a group of conservative judges who violates state’s rights. Therefore neither a tyrant nor a dictator on any level.
July 6th, 2006 at 9:21 amSince BushCo can’t plop just anyone from the ‘crony-pool’ into the ‘cybersecurity czar’ post, the scrutiny the ‘appointee’ would get could not withstand it, filling the post is just too damn hard, so they don’t. Not that they care about real security measures, as if!
July 6th, 2006 at 9:27 amEh? How so? Because the concensus among those who read independent news sources is that he was elected by the people of Venezuela and not awarded the job by a group of conservative judges who violates state’s rights. Therefore neither a tyrant nor a dictator on any level.
Comment by unbelievable — July 6, 2006 @ 9:21 am
Just because what he says about Bush warms your heart you can’t turn a blind eye to his human rights abuses, the fact that there is no free press, etc.. Don’t turn this into a Bush bash, do your reading on Chavez.
July 6th, 2006 at 9:31 am#83, TripMaster Monkey,
My point exactly! Instead of dancing around the worst criticisms of her guests, she confronts the issues directly. giving those interviewed a chance to address those criticisms. She did the same thing to Republican Majority Whip John Boehner, all with a disarming smile and piercing eyes, that seem to force confessions out of her guests. She only seems right leaning when interviewing liberals, but her visible upset yesterday at Lieberman being challenged shows her preference for the old guard of the Democratic Party.
July 6th, 2006 at 9:32 am#86, onthefence,
Most “progressives” are actually socialists, who believe civil rights only apply to other socialists, and not applied to free market, free speech capitalists.
July 6th, 2006 at 9:34 amReply to #86:
Don’t turn this into a Bush bash, do your reading on Chavez.
Perhaps you ought to do some reading yourself.
July 6th, 2006 at 9:35 am#89 Thanks for wasting 1:30 of my life. This doesn’t prove or disprove anything. A big part of Chavez’s popularity is because of his inflammatory rhetoric towards the US and his manipulation of nationlistic urges. You know Bush once had approval levels in the 70’s, that doesn’t mean he a good president.
You guys can defend him all you want, socialism sounds great on paper but it doesn’t work. Just like unregulated free-market capitalism doesn’t work, there’s a middle ground somewhere. The only difference between Chavez and all of the other two-bit dictators that have been running South America for the past 50 years is that he doesn’t take his marching orders from us.
July 6th, 2006 at 9:49 amJust because what he says about Bush warms your heart you can’t turn a blind eye to his human rights abuses, the fact that there is no free press, etc.. Don’t turn this into a Bush bash, do your reading on Chavez.
Comment by onthefence — July 6, 2006 @ 9:31 am
Jesus, this had me rolling in the aisles. Do your reading!!!! Chavez has been elected several times, in undisputed elections by enviable majorities.
The support he enjoys among the electorate is a politicians wet dream, and something that Bush will never see. Please provides sources for the insane assertion that there is no free press in Venezuala.
Finally, you really are a fool. I don’t often use such strong language, but that epithet is deserved. You are a grade A, full blown, government inspected fool for posting what you did
July 6th, 2006 at 10:00 amA big part of Chavez’s popularity is because of his inflammatory rhetoric
Excuse me, are you saying he is or isn’t a dictator? Was or was he not elected? You understand the concept? People vote, the votes get counted, the guy with the most votes gets to be in charge?
He specifically is he a dictator?
July 6th, 2006 at 10:03 amJust because what he says about Bush warms your heart you can’t turn a blind eye to his human rights abuses, the fact that there is no free press, etc.. Don’t turn this into a Bush bash, do your reading on Chavez.
Comment by onthefence — July 6, 2006 @ 9:31 am
Again, sources? Because the United States and not Venezuela is currently being reprimanded for our human right violations, and lack of free speech.
I have read up on Chavez – just not from conservative sources who twists the truth.
This has nothing to do with Bush. Stop trying to make it.
July 6th, 2006 at 10:04 amA big part of Chavez’s popularity is because of his inflammatory rhetoric
Excuse me, are you saying he is or isn’t a dictator? Was or was he not elected? You understand the concept? People vote, the votes get counted, the guy with the most votes gets to be in charge?
He specifically is he a dictator, in what way?
July 6th, 2006 at 10:04 amWhy in the world would you say that about yourself ?
Comment by Bingo !
The numbers are messed up, Bingo, so I don’t know what you’re referring to. What did I say?
July 6th, 2006 at 10:05 amInstead of dancing around the worst criticisms of her guests, she confronts the issues directly.
Sorry, but calling Cindy Sheehan a ‘puppet of the left’ and charaterizing her hunger strike against the war in Iraq as ‘a publicity stunt’ are not valid ‘criticisms’…they are outright personal attacks…worthy of Brit Hume or Bill O’Reilly, but not of an honest journalist.
July 6th, 2006 at 10:05 amMost “progressives†are actually socialists, who believe civil rights only apply to other socialists, and not applied to free market, free speech capitalists.
Comment by Jason M. Hendler — July 6, 2006 @ 9:34 am
Do talking in sweeping generalizations somehow make you think you’re in control?
Your non-serious posts are offensive, but your serious posts are hysterical.
July 6th, 2006 at 10:07 amPeople vote, the votes get counted, the guy with the most votes gets to be in charge?
Hah! Just noticed this and couldn’t resist a dig. The guy with the most votes gets to be in charge, except in archaic 18th century electoral systems like …. hmmm let me think … oh yours:-)
July 6th, 2006 at 10:09 amI guess it just takes more than prematurely greying hair to impress nowadays.
Comment by onthefence
I was simply referring to Anderson Cooper being boyishly cute, and having a certain charm, strictly surface stuff. It doesn’t matter if he’s gay or not (I didn’t realize there was speculation about that), he’s still adorable. I don’t watch him much, but his coverage of Katrina was exceptional.
July 6th, 2006 at 10:10 amYeah, Hugo Chavez is a real monster, all right! Only a madman would offer to sell low cost heating oil to low income Americans, to keep them from freezing to death last winter, because Big Oil had to make a huge profit, you know. Yup, pure evil. And this ‘dictator’ (snort) was democratically elected, twice! Just like GWB. Is he a ‘dictator’ too? And Pat Robertson calling for his murder, on his TV show, no less, proves he is no tyrant, or Pat would be in business with him. Just like he is with Charles Taylor, a TRUE tyrant.
July 6th, 2006 at 10:11 amanderson cooper = good genes
July 6th, 2006 at 10:13 amthe rumors = jealousy (probably)
(consider the source)
Katy- Don’t you mean ‘jeans’? ;) (joke)
July 6th, 2006 at 10:16 amby the way – i think anderson cooper is to be a guest on franken today – guest hosted by SAM SEDER this week – he is a crack up, witty and fun…
July 6th, 2006 at 10:16 amhttp://www.worldtribune.com/worldtribune/06/front2453922.0965277776.html
Read this.
Here is the definition of a dictator from dictionary.com
1.
1. An absolute ruler.
2. A tyrant; a despot.
2. An ancient Roman magistrate appointed temporarily to deal with an immediate crisis or emergency.
3. One who dictates: These initials are those of the dictator of the letter.
So Chavez doesnt have abolsute power?
I think deep down you guys only carry water for him because he hates Bush, well the enemy of my enemy doesn’t make him my friend. Being blinded in such a way makes you an idealogue and therefore not much better than Sean Hannity.
July 6th, 2006 at 10:21 amComment by onthefence — July 6, 2006 @ 9:31 am
Hey there onthefence, I’m sorry about the fool thing, heat of the moment.
If you are at least a little objective, you’ll see you made a mistake about Chavez. He plays hard ball sure, but within the laws of his country, and he is no dictator. You were played by whatever media outlets you frequent and that should make you very angry.
My advice is to vary your sources. Take nothing as given, and when you hear something outrageous try and find an opposing view for balance. Oh and never ever read anything by Ann Coulter, that’s just bad karma.
So Chavez doesnt have abolsute power?
No Chavez doesn’t have absolute power.
I think deep down you guys only carry water for him because he hates Bush
Oh I’m sure you are right about that, I love to see him stand up to Bush!!! However, the primary reason we defend him is because it’s so easy, he is an undisputed elected leader. You coming here and saying he is a dictator simply makes you look like the on that is blinded and uniformed. For example, you have yet to provide anything substantial to support your incorrect allegations. This is why you got the deserved savaging you got.
It’s hard to admit you were played, but it’s better to do it rather than to obtusley insist that black is white and up is down. It’s also the adult thing to do.
July 6th, 2006 at 10:28 amFinally let me leave you with this the CIA factbook blurb on Venezuala.
http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/ve.html
A taster of the content
Executive branch:
chief of state: President Hugo CHAVEZ Frias (since 3 February 1999); Vice President Jose Vicente RANGEL Vale (since 28 April 2002); note – the president is both the chief of state and head of government
head of government: President Hugo CHAVEZ Frias (since 3 February 1999); Vice President Jose Vicente RANGEL Vale (since 28 April 2002)
cabinet: Council of Ministers appointed by the president
elections: president elected by popular vote for a six-year term; election last held 30 July 2000 (next to be held 3 December 2006)
note: in 1999, a National Constituent Assembly drafted a new constitution that increased the presidential term to six years; an election was subsequently held on 30 July 2000 under the terms of this new constitution
election results: Hugo CHAVEZ Frias reelected president; percent of vote – Hugo CHAVEZ Frias 59.5%, Francisco ARIAS 37.5%, Claudio FERMIN 3%
note: a special presidential recall vote on 15 August 2004 resulted in a victory for CHAVEZ; percent of vote – 58% in favor of CHAVEZ fulfilling the remaining two years of his term, 42% in favor of terminating his presidency immediately
Legislative branch:
unicameral National Assembly or Asamblea Nacional (167 seats; members elected by popular vote to serve five-year terms; three seats reserved for the indigenous peoples of Venezuela)
elections: last held 4 December 2005 (next to be held in 2010)
election results: percent of vote by party – NA%; seats by party – pro-government 167 (MVR 114, PODEMOS 15, PPT 11, indigenous 2, other 25), opposition 0
Judicial branch:
July 6th, 2006 at 10:33 amSupreme Tribunal of Justice or Tribuna Suprema de Justicia (magistrates are elected by the National Assembly for a single 12-year term)
and just to kick you while you’re down, the experience will be valuable trust me on this :
election results: George W. BUSH reelected president; percent of popular vote – George W. BUSH (Republican Party) 50.9%, John KERRY (Democratic Party) 48.1%, other 1.0%
election results: Hugo CHAVEZ Frias reelected president; percent of vote – Hugo CHAVEZ Frias 59.5%, Francisco ARIAS 37.5%, Claudio FERMIN 3%
July 6th, 2006 at 10:35 amcome to think of it, cyra, i’m not sure i’ve gotten a look at those jeans… bet it’s a nice picture though… i’ve seen him walk onto the set at the daily show but that’s about all… he seems a well trim-and-fit gentleman…
July 6th, 2006 at 10:43 amp.s. you know who his mom is, right?
So Brian what does that prove other than that poor, uneducated people are easily manipulated by either Bush or Chavez by exploiting their fears and channeling their outrage into votes.
You know the people who signed their names to get the referendum vote in 2004 are now “blacklisted”, being denied jobs and social services. But hey, that’s your version of a socialist utopia right?
July 6th, 2006 at 11:24 am# 95-Zooey:
Here is what my screen says:
56.#56- I hate stupid on purpose.
T.P. needs to delete but still leave the #s.
July 6th, 2006 at 11:45 am# 108“U must REALLY be HORNY.
July 6th, 2006 at 11:53 amT.P. needs to delete but still leave the #s.
Comment by Bingo !
Oh, I see. Calling myself stupid IS mean! ;)
I was referring to Rick who doesn’t seem able to learn whether fascism is left or right.
July 6th, 2006 at 12:32 pm# 112-Zooey:
I really knew you weren’t talking about yourself,I just wanted to see if you would catch it in the morning.
July 6th, 2006 at 12:42 pmSo Brian what does that prove other than that poor, uneducated people are easily manipulated by either Bush or Chavez by exploiting their fears and channeling their outrage into votes.
This exposes an nasty elitest and frankly anti democratic seam in your thinking. However, I’ll concede there is some merit to your comment. The difference between Bush and Chavez though, is that Hugo has actually delivered on his campaign promises. Poverty is down, education is up, health care is improved and the economy is growing despite the US intensly disliking Chavez.
That is why people continue to relect him, and defend him. He champions there cause. Why the american electorate elected Bush again is a mystery. Potentially because the US system eliminates the poor from voting by criminalising them and purging them from voter rolls. You are aware that the US imprison 7 times as many people as any other developed world country?
You don’t have a farts chance in a hurricane of coming out of this discussion looking either moderate, “on the fence” or even rational. Plus you are boring me. So unless you have something concrete to contribute, beyond right wing talking points, why not run along. Theres a good chap.
July 6th, 2006 at 1:01 pm#109 So Brian what does that prove other than that poor, uneducated people are easily manipulated by either Bush or Chavez by exploiting their fears and channeling their outrage into votes.
Well, also proves that Chávez is less of a tyrant than Bush. Chávez was elected, Bush got appointed by the Supreme Court, who, in turn stopped the recount in the state governed by Jeb Bush by a Bush family loyalist. Chávez is populist? Sure. But Chávez uses exactly the same tools that uses Bush. So, please, do some cleaning in your house first…
You know the people who signed their names to get the referendum vote in 2004 are now “blacklistedâ€, being denied jobs and social services. But hey, that’s your version of a socialist utopia right?
Comment by onthefence — July 6, 2006 @ 11:24 am
As said, Venezuela isn’t an utopia. But at least, Chávez is using the money of the oil of his country to benefit the poor people. Be it because he honestly want to help them, or because he wants to preserve the poor’s vote, he at least benefits the poor, and not only some Kenny Boy or Exxon President who gives lots of $$$ to his campaing.
And “blacklisted”? You mean as have been “blacklisted” Murtha, Sheehan, Michael Moore, Ed Kennedy, and many others for not being in sintony with the GOP? Or the appointment of cozy people in important places, like Brown or Chertoff?
July 6th, 2006 at 1:09 pmcorrection.
Why the american electorate elected Bush once is a mystery.
July 6th, 2006 at 1:14 pmI just wanted to see if you would catch it in the morning.
Comment by Bingo !
I’m usually pretty quick, until breakfast starts wearing off… right…about…NOW! :-D
July 6th, 2006 at 1:47 pm