The Iran North Korea argument is flawed as well. Both Iran and NK have been outside international law and built up weapons programs while a signatory of the NPT. While I believe no country should have these weapons, who would you rather have them, a responsible democracy or a theocracy and dictatorship?

Maybe you should all do some research before you rant.

Which country do you live? You obviously hate America so you obviously don’t live here. I know I wouldn’t live in a country I hated.

Comment by Ben —
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Oh,please.Not that stale nonsense.

Comment by Rand
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Painting with a pretty broad brush,aren’t you?

No, you have the blinders on. Take it this way, what would the US’ reaction have been to Russia selling nuclear technology to Cuba have been? Oh, that’s right, you moved in your nuclear arsenal to show Russia just how bad an idea this could be.

Pakistan is already a wavering nation, it is already less then fond of America, doing this, and what is the outcome? Do you really want a nuclear Iran? Realise, America doesn’t have the funds to fight a non-nuclear Iran right now.

Further, by breaking the NPT, you are basically doing away with the major barrier to any other countries who want to sell their nuclear technology. Just now China decides to enter into a deal with Nigeria (Oil for Nukes anyone?) or the Russians decide its time to open house in order to balance their budget. Hell even South Africa could get in on the act and sell some of our technology to Zimbabwe. Once the NPT is off, it is off, and while the world isn’t divided into us and them, not everyone is exactly a friend.

In what state lets this deal to Pervez Musharraff, the dictator of Pakistan, and fervent ally of the USA in the WOT in Afghanistan? Remember: he is a key ally to deploy forces in Afghanistan and pursuit terrorists in the frontier between the two countries?

The decission of facilitating nuclear war technology to the biggest enemy of Pakistan, India, while basing the USA forces in Pakistan would mean a great level of anger between the people of Afghanistan against infidels (americans), and against their forced leader, Musharraff.

Bush and Republican cheerleaders, you’re creating the USA enemies of tomorrow.

This just shows how ignorant some of u are over here in regard with foreign policy matters.

I’d like to ask this gentleman abt the source of his statements…..

Ferment Over ‘The Israel Lobby’
by Philip Weiss

Titled “The Israel Lobby,” the piece argued that a wide-ranging coalition that includes neoconservatives, Christian Zionists, leading journalists and of course the American Israel Public Affairs Committee, or AIPAC, exerts a “stranglehold” on Middle East policy and public debate on the issue. While supporting the moral cause for the existence of Israel, the authors said there was neither a strategic nor a moral interest in America’s siding so strongly with post-occupation Israel. Many Americans thought the Iraq War was about oil, but “the war was motivated in good part by a desire to make Israel more secure.”
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Can you give this one-dimensional stuff a rest? You see, I love both my daughter and my country. However, whenever either does something against my values or any universal values I lovingly call them to account. That does not mean that I forget about all the good that they do. I just want them both to live up to their best.

do you think the usa/isreal cabal is more or less likely to begin a war in iran if iran is properly defended? if you say ‘less likely’ you would be right for the first time in your life.

not having a war in iran is a GOOD thing. the chances of a war in iran is MORE LIKELY if the usa/isreal cabal can invade a weakened iran than a strong one. or at least people with a brain, read, not a ‘bush fascist like seixon’ think so.

to clarify, in the universe of the living, war is not the prefered state; i understand that in your sick skull, war is prefered, especially when it is caused by the usa/israel cabal…but you know, no one really give two shits about your opinions.

go away, pest!!!

iran with nukes is safer than israel and the usa controlling the game…

Sure it is, sure it is. You are friggin nuts dude. Seriously.

Juan C,

It’s quite apparent that my earlier statement is correct. Yes, the USA has done many stupid things in their past, as have many other countries. We live in 2006, not 1964. Extrapolating all our previous mistakes onto the nation as it is right now would be like holding Germany accountable for Hitler’s crimes 60 years afterwards.

OK. First, a democracy??? After what happened in Ohio and Florida…mmmm…you have to wash your mouth before you talk about democracy, invented by greeks and stained by US GOP. So, that is a debatable argument: you are not a good example of democracy.

Yeah, I mean Iran is clearly a democracy. There the religious leaders pick who gets to run for office, and then the people get to choose among them! Why, that is much more of a democracy than the US, where small amounts of voter fraud happen across the country due to something called human nature. What did happen in Ohio and Florida? Let me guess, the Republicans rigged both elections since they knew beforehand that it would come down to those two states. Right? Never mind having to actually prove that, it’s so much easier to spout off wild conspiracy theories without anything to back them. Back in reality, mostly everyone has thrown people like Robert Kennedy into the dumpster, his zany theories shat upon by even the most outspoken Democrats.

Keep rationalizing your hate of the USA buddy.

Crazy religious dictators? You mean alcoholic leaders who speak with god and think the constitution is merely a book full of nice intentions? You are spitting to the sky and it raining on you, buddy.

Oh no, Bush believes in God. Help! I mean, it’s not like 90% of the USA is religious or anything! Bush is a crazy person! He’s religious! Well actually, I do agree with that, but not the type of “crazy” that you’re thinking of.

“U.S. Taxpayers Underwrite Global Nuclear Power Plant Sales

The U.S. tax-supported Export-Import Bank (Ex-Im) is solidly backing major U.S. nuclear contractors such as Westinghouse, Bechtel, and General Electric in their efforts to seek foreign markets for nuclear reactors. Between 1959 and 1993 Ex-lm spent $7.7 billion to help sell American-made reactors abroad.

Most countries do not have the capital to buy nuclear power, so contractors, in order to be competitive, provide 100 percent of the financing. Ex-Im offers terms too good for Third World countries and Eastern European buyers to pass up. If the host country defaults on its loan, the Ex-Im steps in with American taxpayer dollars.”

So what are the terms of that contract with India, anyway?

I couldn’t give a rat’s ass about spilled milk. Now spilled BLOOD, that’s an issue that humanity should NEVER become complacent on or indifferent to.

I can see that in your underdeveloped mind that you could care less about all of this unless you feel that it directly affects you. I’m sorry for you that the sophistication of the issues reach well beyond your level of comprehension. However, it is unreasonable to expect everyone else to dumb themselves down so that they would be able to see things your way. It needs to be the other way around and you need to get working on that task immediately.

I know for you lefty’s, the world is going to crash down any day. I on the other hand try to live more with reality (as much as anyone can). Bush isn’t perfect and should not have invaded Iraq. He also should have controlled congress’ horrible spending habit better. All this doesn’t mean we are all doomed. Bush is gone in under 2 years anyways. Look, most of normal America (the type that doesn’t post on blogs on either side) simply are not stuck in the past furious about each and every mistake our leaders make because it simply doesn’t matter. What happened in the past with Iraq and Over spending on the Budget are in the past and cannot be reversed.

Most of us converse about what is best for tommorrow, but what went wrong yesterday. Do you guys cry over spilled milk for years as well?

There is a monumental difference between hating what a country is doing and hating the country. In fact, I believe that the bible tells you to “hate the sin but not the sinner”.

Your cheap and amateurish attempt at discrediting someone using a simpleton’s logic only succeeds in discrediting yourself.

Comment by Ben — July 6, 2006 @ 5:09 pm

thank you so much for your interest in my life. i am an american. a dissenting american whose hatred is focused on the bush crime family, their war-crimes, lies, and disdain for humanity.

i would sort of like to live in the netherlands or southern france and will go as soon as you paypal $40,000 to my account. thanks for the offer!

peace,

james

Comment by Ben — July 6, 2006 @ 5:09 pm

If you support a government that takes actions to strip you from your liberties, then you live in the country you hate.