President Bush’s Job Record Since August 2003: Nothing To Brag About
President Bush’s Job Record Since August 2003: Nothing To Brag About
The White House issued a fact sheet today on President Bush’s economic record. The headline blares “5.4 Million Jobs Created Since August 2003.” The sheet suggests recent job growth proves President Bush’s economic strategy is a smashing success.
Let’s set aside for a moment that the “fact sheet” conveniently ignores the 22 months of jobs losses that proceeded August 2003. Instead, let’s put Bush’s job record since August 2003 in perspective:
1. Monthly job growth since August 2003 is 50% lower than the average of President Clinton’s entire term. Since August 2003, job growth has averaged 160,000 per month. During Clinton’s eight years in office job growth averaged 236,000 per month.
2. Real wages have fallen since August 2003. The average worker’s real wages were twenty cents lower in June 2006 than they were in August 2003.
Any way you slice it, Bush’s economic policy has resulted in slower job growth and lower wages. That’s nothing to brag about.
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And it will get worse as the world boycots your goods forever
July 7th, 2006 at 5:22 pmNothing to brag about? When did that ever stop Bush?
July 7th, 2006 at 5:35 pmWe need 150,000 jobs/month to stay even; he brags about 120,000 and calls it good progress.
Everything is “progress” and “hard work.” His speechwriters have to keep it simple.
He has to “catapault the propaganda.”
July 7th, 2006 at 5:36 pmDoodle Bug, while I appreciate the sentiment, America sadly has very few goods to offer. We are a service based economy. One thing that the world will not boycott, however, is American culture. The world can trash America about illegal wars, torture, etc. I agree that we suck for that, but no matter what, people want their McDonalds, Coke, iPod, etc.
July 7th, 2006 at 5:36 pmBush Adminatration don’t care about America or it’s citizens. As far as they are concerned, America is limited to rich people. All others are simply tools to maintain and increase their wealth. Why are we keep posting ridiculous posts trying to show how bad he is doing for us and United States as a whole from our point of view?!? To there eyes, they are doing superb job! They do things that will benefit there wealth and don’t want others to get in the rich club. We should be pointing out in our posts that what they are doing and trying to accomplish. And not what they haven’t done. Ignorant 32% will only see liberals hating them and their idea of America.
July 7th, 2006 at 5:37 pm#5
July 7th, 2006 at 5:41 pmUnfortunately you’re absolutely correct. This is the best possible news for the filthy rich.
4#thats were your wrong
I never eat macdonalds and look at their sales figures
I boycot Pepsi and Coke
dont have an iPod . 3 other MP3 Players
I would like a pepsi though and until Bush is in jail refuse to buy one ….
I have Tesco cola and its bloody awfull and saves a fortune as they last months…
Boycott ASDA
Boycott Heinz
Boycott MBNA
I even buy bread not made with America super flour
So I disagree
July 7th, 2006 at 5:42 pmMy count is 25 months of negative growth and 1 of zero growth:
1. March, 2001,
2. April, 2001,
3. May, 2001
4. June, 2001
5. July, 2001
6. August, 2001
7. September, 2001
8. October, 2001
9. November, 2001
10. December, 2001
11. January, 2002
12. February, 2002
13. March, 2002
14. April, 2002
15. May, 2002
16. July, 2002
17. September, 2002
18. November, 2002
19. December, 2002
20. February, 2003
21. March, 2003
22. April, 2003
23. May, 2003
24. July, 2003
25. August, 2003
August 2002 was the zero.
July 7th, 2006 at 5:45 pm#4
July 7th, 2006 at 5:45 pmLet’s see. McDonald’s, Coke, and iPod are now what constitutes American “culture”. Maybe yours, buddy.
#4 - KMFG - That’s something I find almost comic. When they show video from the Middle East or elsewhere where young men are burning American flags or effigies of President Bush more often than not they are wearing t-shirts emblazoned with Gap or Nike logos. As oppressed and manipulated as they are, they still appreciate irony.
July 7th, 2006 at 5:45 pmDont forget the other stuff. Music, Movies, and Code. for all the hatred of US of A, and dislike for the liberal hollywood types, Movies are big sellers as is music. And how many people world wide us an OS that isn’t either Windows, or Mac OS?
July 7th, 2006 at 5:46 pm4.6% UNEMPLOYMENT!!!
You can’t create as many jobs a month as Clinton when most of the Country is already working. Funny enough, the Federal Reserve thinks that too many are employed right now as they believe anything under 5% is bad for inflation and our economy. Bush’s economic policy is a “smashing success”. Clinton did pretty well too. He was able to ride the tech boom well. Of course Bush entered office as the tech boom went bust deflating the job market. Either way, 4.6%!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
July 7th, 2006 at 5:48 pm10# They wont be original Gap or Nike teeshirts but copies
U.S. Businesses Overseas Threatened by Rising Anti-Americanism
Brands closely identified with the U.S., such as Marlboro cigarettes, America Online (AOL), McDonald’s, American Airlines, and Exxon-Mobil are particularly at risk. GMI, an independent market research company, conducted the survey in eight countries December 10-12 with consumers over the internet.
One third of all consumers in Canada, China, France, Germany, Japan, Russia, and the United Kingdom said that U.S. foreign policy, particularly the “war on terror” and the occupation of Iraq, constituted their strongest impression of the United States.
Twenty percent of respondents in Europe and Canada said they consciously avoided buying U.S. products as a protest against those policies. That finding was consistent with a similar poll carried out by GMI three weeks after Bush’s November election victory.
“Unfortunately, current American foreign policy is viewed by international consumers as a significant negative, when it used to be a positive,” according to Dr. Mitchell Eggers, GMI’s chief operating officer and chief pollster.
July 7th, 2006 at 5:51 pmTech boom!? Every single investment company knew that the tech boom would fail (you cant get a return on investment if your company doesn’t have a product). Not only did they know it would fail, they new the approximate year and quarter it would begin. The big investment companies just let invester throw money into tech companies, simply because they got commission on the sales.
July 7th, 2006 at 5:52 pmIn other words… the economy stinks.
July 7th, 2006 at 5:54 pm#12. Clinton left office at 4%.
How many jobs were lost in the tech boom bust? Do you know?
July 7th, 2006 at 5:55 pm#13 - Well if those little jihadists want American fashion so much they pay for cheap knock-offs, we must be doing something right.
Doodle - What can we here in the US do to regain the good-favor from the world-at-large?
July 7th, 2006 at 5:55 pm#12 Gary,
Total labor force participation has dropped under Bush, not increased as you imply. This is what happens when your economic program fails to create jobs fast enough to keep up with population growth. It is simple math. Very, very simple.
July 7th, 2006 at 6:01 pm#18 - Excellent call. I’m glad someone brought that up.
The truth is, yes, civilian labor force participation fell steadily between Jan 2000 and Jan 2005. Since then, the trend has been positive. Hopefully we are at the beginning of a rebound.
July 7th, 2006 at 6:06 pmFor more on the failure of the Bush administration when it comes to wages, personal debt, health care costs, energy prices and other elements of the “Insecurity Index,” see:
July 7th, 2006 at 6:25 pm“Bush League Economy.”
[…] UPDATE: More on the rotten jobs situation. […]
July 7th, 2006 at 6:28 pmNot to mention that people who have used up their unemployment are no longer count as being unemployed. A change that was made under Bush. So, your 4.6% is not correct. It is too low.
July 7th, 2006 at 6:28 pmJudd, can you clarify this?
“The average worker’s real wages were twenty cents lower in June 2006 than they were in August 2003.”
Do you mean hourly wages?
July 7th, 2006 at 6:32 pmJudd, Judd, Judd….I think you’ve done well for yourself!! It isn’t easy putting a negative spin on good news - AND you make it look SOOO easy!!!
” The sheet suggests recent job growth proves President Bush’s economic strategy is a smashing success. Let’s set aside for a moment that the “fact sheet†conveniently ignores the 22 months of jobs losses that proceeded August 2003.”
- Insightful analysis by Judd
*****Recent job growth IS a success - but you’d never know it with your apples and avalanche comparison. You correctly cite the tremendous job growth during the Clinton administration and neglect to mention the dot.com BURST in the same administration. How many consecutive quarters of negative or flat growth proceeded the 2001 inauguration???? How about the $1TRILLION price tag of 9/11 on US business??
Again, Judd, let me congratulate you - you’ve elevated yourself to the “Spin-meister Hall of FAME”. Your mother must be one PROUD Dem woman! (Your plaque is right beneath Bill O’Reillys and Bill Moyers.)
July 7th, 2006 at 7:03 pmAphrodite,
Please cite a (credible) source for your claim that 9/11 cost business $1 trillion.
July 7th, 2006 at 7:09 pmThe people on unemployment are the ones who’re counted, not the ones not on it. Likewise, those working menial under-the-table jobs are similarly not included in the unemployment statistics for the simple reason that they’re not on the books.
The administration’s been bragging that unemployment has plunged to just 5% but they conveniently shy away from from what’s keeping that figure as high as it is, which is the constant outsourcing of both blue and white collar jobs to India, China and, if Bush has his way, Central America.
But enough about boring labor statistics…
Get ready to scream. I have David Hasselhoff’s newest video up at my place and you simply won’t believe how cheesy this thing is.
And you thought things were bad before…
July 7th, 2006 at 7:11 pmGary @ #12 seems to be doing more Karl Rove spin. RealScientist @ #18 counters but in case Gary missed the point - the current employment to population ratio is only 63.1% as opposed to be over 64% for most of Clinton’s 2nd term. But hey - we can repeat the facts til the cows come home - the Kids over at NRO’s The Corner will still misrepresent reality. After all, they and this White House they support have ZERO integrity.
July 7th, 2006 at 7:13 pmBush, on Larry King which I did not watch, but got a glimpse of today as I scrolled past CNN, said that he does not put stock in poll numbers.
He further stated that he hoped to be remembered as the solver, the president who solved problems.
Someone pray tell me what problem Bush has solved in the 6 years in office? I cant think of any, but I sure as hell could fill up this site with the things he has failed to SOLVE.
July 7th, 2006 at 7:21 pmThe stated unemployment rate is so transparently manipulated for political purposes that I find it unbelievable that any serious, informed person would try to base an argument on it. I have no doubt whatsoever that nearly all trained economists ignore this number in favor of other statistical measures, because the number is such total garbage. There has been many a month in recent years when the number of jobs created has been insufficient to keep up with population growth, yet the official unemployment rate has dropped because of the manipulation. In short, the unemployment rate is not a reality-based measure. But Bush supporters keep coming back to this number as proof of something. It is sheer idiocy. Maybe the idiots should take notice that today’s job report was viewed quite unfavorably by the stock market.
July 7th, 2006 at 7:22 pm#26 - “Mighty Aphro, you can spin and whine until the cows come home and it won’t change the fact that this administration will end its 8-year run with the worst job creation numbers in history — worse than Hoover.” more spin from BlueDAWG
******I congratulate Judd on his Demorat disingenuousness and you call that whining?? Everyone is good at SOMETHING and I was merely pointing out a “fine” Dem trait. (Herbert Hoover, eh??? - Did you take that straight from the Kerry Edwards talking points or did you manage to memorize that from a bumper sticker all by yourself???)
Only a dope-smoking Dem pessimist continues to see the glass as half-empty. ..
You poor thing….
#27 - “Please cite a (credible) source for your claim that 9/11 cost business $1 trillion.”
July 7th, 2006 at 7:38 pmComment by RealScientist
****** Dear ScienceWonk - By enunciating the term “credible” in your request, am I to assume the source is to be a leftard for you to assign any credibility? Visit http://www.darwinmag.com/read/100102/impact.html and read “The Continuing Impact of 9/11 on Business” by Chuck Martin of NFI Research.
Hey TPJUDD sources a 2004 column from 2004. How stupid is that?
July 7th, 2006 at 7:47 pm33. first a personal attack, then a change of subject. admissions that there isn’t enough lipstick for this pig of an economy. you say “Recent job growth IS a success” - prove it.
July 7th, 2006 at 8:04 pm33. first a personal attack, then a change of subject. admissions that there isn’t enough lipstick for this pig of an economy. you say “Recent job growth IS a success” - prove it.
July 7th, 2006 at 8:04 pmVisit http://www.darwinmag.com/read/100102/impact.html and read “The Continuing Impact of 9/11 on Business†by Chuck Martin of NFI Research.
Just another pathetic example of Bush supporters stumbling over themselves to lower the bar for their guy.
July 7th, 2006 at 8:10 pmI’m even skeptical about this number. According to the Bushies 5.4 million jobs over 22 months averages 245,000 jobs created each month, a number we KNOW isn’t true. Just another lie from the clan of habitual liars.
July 7th, 2006 at 8:11 pmrun away run away
July 7th, 2006 at 8:14 pmSo ScienceWonk, credible economic references include Keynes, Galbraith, Marx, Krugman??? I do understand your consternation - when a leftard referenced Katrina Vanden Guilty and the Nation in general, I dismiss the “findings” as tailored toward the hypothesis - and not very scientific….
July 7th, 2006 at 8:15 pmHuh? Keynes, Galbraith, Marx, Krugman are all backing this $1 trillion number?
July 7th, 2006 at 8:30 pmOh, now I get it.
Chuck Martin = Keynes + Galbraith + Marx + Krugman
Aphrodite, you are a math whiz!
July 7th, 2006 at 8:34 pmAphrodite,
The article you link does not mention $1 trillion anywhere, nor does it cite any data, nor does it mention any of the famous figures you cite above as “economic references”. To the contrary, the article says that it isn’t possible to separate the effects of 9/11 from other economic factors. Furthermore, the only support for any of the writer’s musings is his survey of executives, which he describes only in the vaguest of terms.
Aphrodite, you have grossly misrepresented the article. Was this a mistake, or was it intentional? Do you try to fool people this way, assuming they won’t follow the link and read the article?
July 7th, 2006 at 8:44 pmMy grandfather worked until he was 78 - the railroad did not let him retire because he was their last steam engineer (He designed the things and fabricated parts that no-one else remembered how to make.). He left the yard when the last steam switcher was replaced by an electrical one. The picture for today’s workers is a bit different - most jobs are in the service industry and are routinely transferred overseas to underpaid Asians and Pacific islanders. This demographic shift will destroy America’s supremacy in the world. What are these Neocons thinking?
July 7th, 2006 at 9:00 pmPlease, people. The Prez inherited the Dot-com bust as soon as he took office. Then, 9:11 happens. If it were not for Bush’s great economic policy - in other words, if not for the tax cuts - we would have slipped into a full-blown DEPRESSION. I think it is extradinary to be experiencing the type of economic prosperity we have been experiencing, considering all the hardship we have endured.
July 7th, 2006 at 9:08 pmThe Bush Regime economy for the U.S. is more like a third world nation cesspool in South America! Poverty is growing daily and wages are not keeping up with inflation either! Job creation is almost stagnant, and most of the jobs available are in the food service industry! The wealthy elite are doing fabulous, so that is all that Bush ass cares about!
July 7th, 2006 at 9:14 pm#46-
Personnally, Walt, as an American I would definitely prefer to be in some type of service industry rather than producing truck-loads of rubber dog-shit, plastic bathroom fixtures, firecrackers, etc. like that economic “superpower” China. Tell me, name one type of aircraft produced by the Chinese? Okay, that’s too hard. Name me a decent automobile produced by the Chinese. No? Okay, how about a TOASTER. Didn’t think so.
July 7th, 2006 at 9:14 pm#48-
The opportunity is out there for you, Jay. Maybe you should get off your ass and out of this blog. Not much opportunity in here.
July 7th, 2006 at 9:19 pmLook at your new toaster > it might have an American brand name on the box, but the tag on the bottom of the toaster will probably say “Made in China” on it!
July 7th, 2006 at 9:19 pmLOL post 50 > I used to work for a large corporation for many years > If the CEO was still around I would demand that he be hanged, but that corporation went bankrupt! I just sold my own business about 2 years ago, and will be starting another one soon, so I am not looking for work thanks! Take your own advice and go find an opportunity elsewhere from ThinkProgress!
July 7th, 2006 at 9:24 pm#51-
Okay, I’ll give you the toaster.
July 7th, 2006 at 9:25 pm#54-
What type of business? I hear BioFuels will be taking off soon. We need something to fill the void caused by environmentalist wacko Dems, who haven’t let any of the oil companies produce any sizeable amount of domestic oil in 50 years.
July 7th, 2006 at 9:27 pmOil Companies like to tap large pools of oil, so the US pockets of oil do not interest them much, but someday when Iraq, Iran, Saudi Arabia, etc. are bone dry, then the Oil Cartels will suck the crude out of the US pockets! Everything to them is about getting the most profit!
July 7th, 2006 at 9:39 pmBush’s war on the Economy
In 2005, the National Debt under Bush has increased so drastically that it reached $8 trillion. This means that the average American’s estimated share of national debt will be $24,000 when he leaves office, compared to $500 when he took office.
Responsible for creating a $521 billion dollars budget deficit less than four years after inheriting a $200 billion dollars surplus.
Responsible for the highest US trade deficit ever, totaling to $43 billion dollars.
Of Bush’s proposed $2 trillion tax cut, 43% goes to the wealthiest 1% of Americans.
July 7th, 2006 at 9:44 pmDictator Shrub’s job record is beyond frightening. It’s like he’s purposefully trying to screw up.
July 7th, 2006 at 9:49 pmDamn, I thought this was a thread about GWB’s personal job record.
I thought there were too few comments…
If this were a thread aobut GWB’s personal job record, I’d give him a T — for troll.
July 7th, 2006 at 9:51 pmThis may sound stupid…. I am no spring chicken, age-wise, but am a newbie to all this. I have despised Bushmaster from the day I laid my eyes upon his beedy ones, along with his snide smirk, but I have recently felt inclined to find the truth.
Everytime I hear the report of death tolls, my insides turn to fire and rage. (Over ALL death tolls, not just “more than ____ (insert your approximate number of decimal point averaged bodies here) tolls. I cry for those who have lost someone, American, or otherwise…
I have been looking for a non-partisan resource for “news” reports. Is there such a thing, anymore?
July 7th, 2006 at 10:03 pm#49 - Comment by ThinkProgress = ThinkStupid — July 7, 2006 @ 9:14 pm,
July 7th, 2006 at 10:07 pmThe onlt products that I have in reach at this desktop that says Made in the USA are the Titebond III Wood Glue and a box of Kleenex- the Mouse, the Keyboard, their WirelessTransmiter, the Router, both printers, the CD burner, the DVD burner and the computer itself were all assembled in China.
Post 59 utter dismay > try Counterpunch.com > the articles slap Republicans and Democrats whenever they do something stupid!
July 7th, 2006 at 10:12 pmI apologize - for a scientist who touts his own intelligence - it is not in evidence on this siteIt mention $5 trillion worldwide and $1 trillion for US companies - quit asking me to do your reading for you.
Aphrodite,
Are you kidding? Why don’t you read the article yourself? It says that $5 trillion in market cap was lost after the market peaked in 2000. It also says that this is mostly due to OTHER economic factors, like a raging stock market bubble that every rational investor knew was wildly overvalued. For that matter, MOST of this market cap was lost BEFORE 9/11. Furthermore, the article does NOT reference any of those famous figures you named.
I doubt you even know what “market cap” means, judging from your imbecilic ramblings. I do know now that you are completely full of s**t.
July 7th, 2006 at 10:18 pmLesson # 3 - never post in anger -
#49 - Comment by ThinkProgress = ThinkStupid — July 7, 2006 @ 9:14 pm,
The only products that I have in reach at this desktop that say “Made in the USA” are the Titebond III Wood Glue and a box of Kleenex - the Mouse, the Keyboard, their WirelessTransmiter, the Router, both printers, the CD burner, the DVD burner and the computer itself were all assembled in China.
Comment by WaltTheMan — July 7, 2006 @ 10:07 pm
July 7th, 2006 at 10:18 pm60 WaltThe Man
July 7th, 2006 at 10:19 pmOf course! The Kleenex are for us to cry into and the glue is to keep our mouths shut about how awful things are.
Jay, #61
That’s not hard to do. I leave myself open by saying that. But I am LESS sickened by the left than the right (and I won’t capitalize either).
The rightwing sites I’ve been too (and only because I want to find something to make me belive that the left is wrong…it can’t be!!!) all sound juveniele. It’s like a class of 4th graders. Truly. They sound mad just READing them! They just eminate loathe!! For everything. And the left sounds so…uhhh…right? Correct, meaning.
July 7th, 2006 at 10:22 pmJay, hi again,
I have to ask.. Do none of the referenced sites have editors? As an aspiring English teacher, I find the grammar putting me off of any real idea set forth in any of it. Call me petty. Like fingers down the chalkbords…these are the days of our childs…..
July 7th, 2006 at 10:35 pm#64 - Plc,
July 7th, 2006 at 10:39 pmThe Titdebond III is waterr-soluable until it sets. If W wants to stop loose lips, he will have to use Superglue - the Methaacrylic Ester stuff.
As an aspiring English teacher, I fully apologize for my misspelling, my gravy!!! An atrocity, an abomination, a felony. Someone make me wear pink undies!!!
July 7th, 2006 at 10:50 pmBush’s spokespeople seem to have him regressing to the ‘campaign’mode-again.Why does he insist on being a perpetual campaigner? It’s as if he’s frozen in time. He’s like a mosquito frozen in amber.He can’t sell his failures and treachery described as ‘protecting the American people,’ so he crawls back to the arms of his adoring supporters, , assume a fetal position and hopes his numbers go up by ‘taking his case to the people.’ It’s alright, Mr. President, you graduated from the camapaign mode, you’re president now.
July 7th, 2006 at 11:10 pmPuhleeze! Engaging the Mighty One in any sort of rational way is completely useless.
July 7th, 2006 at 11:16 pmPost 66 > Counterpunch has an editor listed at the top of the page of its blog, and Truthout.org another site I visit has an editor as well! Buzzflash seems to be run by a group of bloggers! All those sites post some good articles, so check them out!
July 8th, 2006 at 12:26 amMay I point out the obvious?
160,000 jobs a month is not real growth when you remember that the US population grows by 226,000 people a month.
His best months are the base minimum.
July 8th, 2006 at 1:12 amBush is not interested in creating new jobs, or even opportunities either, because he just cares about the wealthy elite, so if they are happy then he is happy too! “The Haves and the Have-Mores” are his base, so he just pleases them only > as long as they increase their wealth he has fulfilled his obligation to them! Poor GOP members he throws a few bones, like outlawing Gay marriages and abortion! Those things do not give them jobs, or put bread on their tables either, but it seems to placate their hatred, as they starve to death or go broke!
July 8th, 2006 at 1:42 amDoes anyone know how many jobs have ceased to exist at all, since GWB started his reign of terror? We could compare the figures to get a better ‘feel’ for the job situation here.
July 8th, 2006 at 3:53 amThe WH numbers continue his smoke and mirrors campaign. The only incrome growth has occurred in the top 1% of wage earners; the rest have seen shrinking buying power. The Bush economy has been propped up by low interest rates and home price escalation. When the home refinance boom fizzles and people cannot rely on the equity as a cash cow, the house of cards will come tumbling down. Impeach the idiot NOW.
July 8th, 2006 at 5:55 amIf it were not for Bush’s great economic policy - in other words, if not for the tax cuts - we would have slipped into a full-blown DEPRESSION.
Comment by ThinkProgress = ThinkStupid #47
Incapable of THINKING,
…how many times a day did you say you pray to your god Bushiva?
…how many of your children have you sacrificed to his “gory glory”?
…why do you hate America?
…why do you hate democracy and freedom?
…why don’t you recognize your TREASON?
…Bushiva “CREATED” the phantom “recession”…
…if you’d take your face out of his crotch for a second…
…you’d be able to see something other than his…
…you know…
July 8th, 2006 at 11:18 amMy count is 25 months of negative growth and 1 of zero growth:
1. March, 2001,
2. April, 2001,
3. May, 2001
4. June, 2001
5. July, 2001
6. August, 2001
7. September, 2001
8. October, 2001
9. November, 2001
10. December, 2001
11. January, 2002
12. February, 2002
13. March, 2002
14. April, 2002
15. May, 2002
16. July, 2002
17. September, 2002
18. November, 2002
19. December, 2002
20. February, 2003
21. March, 2003
22. April, 2003
23. May, 2003
24. July, 2003
25. August, 2003
August 2002 was the zero.
Comment by pete — July 7, 2006 @ 5:45 pm
OK you economic giants, maybe you can explain to me all of the specific actions taken by Bush that caused the negative growth that occurred 40 days after he took office. And while you’re at it, explain to me what specific actions that Bush took in the second half of 2000 that resulted in the worst two rates of growth in real GDP in over 5 years. I find it hysterical that those who think Bush is an idiot go about it by providing incontrovertible evidence that Bush could not have been responsible for the claims that they are concurrently making with that evidence.
July 8th, 2006 at 1:13 pmFrom my own experience Bush created lotzajobs for me:
Job1: I was a middle-management employee for a big corporation in America. I kept getting 2- 3% annual increases but more work and no rewards. I just love l’aissez faire!!!
Job2: worked for 8 monthss on plotting my escape to better places from the sweat shop America, eventhough I am college-educated and smart.
Job3: I have a nice job in Europe, less pressure, earning more, management more encouraging and government involved in my welfare.
Way to go Bushie!!
July 8th, 2006 at 2:39 pmJob3: I have a nice job in Europe, less pressure, earning more, management more encouraging and government involved in my welfare.
Comment by jason baddo — July 8, 2006 @ 2:39 pm
Good for you! Congrats! So, care to share how’d you do it? How do you get a job in another country? I thought it was difficult to impossible unless you are already wealthy?
July 8th, 2006 at 2:48 pmunbelievable
That depends on the country, your qualifications, and what country you achieved those qualifications in. South Africa’s teachers for example, keep on getting poached by England, and I know a guy who straight out of articles, with his CASA, got a job that could only be described as international, he doesn’t spend 2 months in any one country.
July 8th, 2006 at 3:03 pmComment by jason baddo — July 8, 2006 @ 2:39 pm
From my own experience Bush created lotzajobs for me:
Job1: I was a middle-management employee for a big corporation in America. I kept getting 2- 3% annual increases but more work and no rewards. I just love l’aissez faire!!!
Are you really blaming Bush because we have a laissez faire capitalist economy in the United States? Wait…let me read your statement again. Yep! You sure are. It couldn’t be that you didn’t receive any merit raises or promotions because you were a moron could it?
Job2: worked for 8 monthss on plotting my escape to better places from the sweat shop America, eventhough I am college-educated and smart.
Please! Just because someone is college educated does not mean the’re smart. Anybody who has worked in corporate America for long knows dozens and dozens of college educated morons committing intellectual fraud on their employers.
Allow me to let you into a little secret: If you provide economic value in excess of the cost to employ you plus a required return on investment then you will prosper in America. That bar isn’t very high. If you provide much more economic value than your cost then you will excel. If a certain company does not adhere to these basic economic realities then they will go out of business unless they are a monopoly, an oligopoly, a quasi government agency or a company in a socialist country being proped up by said country.
Job3: I have a nice job in Europe, less pressure, earning more, management more encouraging and government involved in my welfare.
Way to go Bushie!!
Live the dream Jason. You go find a place where you can coast or work your ass off and it won’t make a hill of beans difference…where you are guaranteed your job with government forcing every kind of potential benefit imaginable on your company…where unemployment is 20%…where you have no real chance of starting a business and making it prosperous and where the floor is higher and ceiling is much lower and made of concrete. The ultimate dream of meritocracy. How to shoot for the stars.
And I’m sorry, but you’re a moron for suggesting that Bush invented the free enterprise system when he came into office. However, allow me to extend our thanks to you, on behalf of our great nation, for taking deadwood out of our economy and transplanting it into Europe where it belongs. That partially explains the up tick in the GDP as you boarded the plane.
July 8th, 2006 at 4:00 pmJay-Thanks for the TruthOut.org. It’s nice to see something other than the slamming of positions. While I love TP, sometimes I can’t see the forest for the trees, i.e., can’t see the story for its comments. And, the president and the ass-hair-for-brains administration and their 5-year-old-like “it’s mine, it’s mine!! My turn, gimme that” mentality should not be the only focus. There’s sooooo much shite going on out there that needs attention, and I think that the whining is a waste of time.
July 8th, 2006 at 8:26 pmIn utter dismay, Common Dreams is good, too.
July 8th, 2006 at 9:59 pmNah, but you are definitely skirting close to that ‘moron’ boundary yourself, dude. Laissez faire is not fair, and that is what is setting him off. People don’t get merit raises or promotions because they are smart these days. They get them because they are viscious and merciless. You can’t get ahead in todays market just by what you can do. You have to be able to market yourself, and frankly, the people who are best at marketting themselves are not the best at doing the frickin’ job.
Also, Bush himself didn’t create laissez faire, but he definitely follows that doctrine whole-heartedly, while sticking government’s ugly nose into every private affair it can (gay marriage, religion, sexual behavior, etc.) In this era of ‘gvmt hands-off’, we have assaults on Net Neutrality (i.e. “We’re gonna hit the cash cow three times. First for the company’s inbound pipe to the ‘net, then the customers link to the ‘net, then just for the hell of it, we are gonna charge the company with the link to the ‘net again, even though they already paid someone, possibly us, for their pipe to the internet!”), assualts on a city’s right to let its residents decide how they will have telephone and internet service ran to them (anti-muni broadband, assaults on franchise agreements), assaults on Fair Use rights (”No! You cannot take your new CD and rip an MP3 to store on your computer, a second one for your MP3 player, a mix of songs you burn to CD, or even a backup copy of your music. If you want a CD and a MP3 for your player, you have to buy it twice!!! And if your CD gets scratched, well you have to buy it again! We bought and paid for the Digital Millineum Copyright Act, so there!”), and assaults on workers rights (Overtime cuts, cuts to OSHA). And this is just the TIP of the iceberg. Maybe there is a reason he left the States.
Once upon a time, your belief was correct. Today, the only thing big business cares about is keeping as much money in their pockets as possible. Don’t believe me? Here’s a story for you. My bosses husband worked for Texas Instruments, making firmware. He earned a hundred thou a year, but brought in a million a year. His unit was the unit that was awarded the top performance award for several years in a row. They fired all his co-workers and gave him a choice. Train the replacement team from India (who would each work for 1/5th what he worked for) and take a year severance pay, or be let go without any severance package. Cold hearted bastards.
Congratulations, OP. I envy you…
Bull effin crap, ya jerk. First of all, don’t throw unemployment numbers around, I don’t give a hoot about unemployment numbers, especially when they are perfect for cooking the books. Don’t believe me? Loose your job. You become part of the unemployed, and are counted as part of that 5.5%. Go hunting. Notice that every job you search for is not paying you as much–either you’re getting near your old pay with alot of benefits (such as medical) cut out, or your raw pay is lower, or both! Take the job, and you join the employed again, after a pay-cut. Or better. Hunt, and hunt, and hunt, and no one will touch you. Your unemployment ends. Suddenly, you’re not part of the unemployed anymore. This is what is going on today. High paying jobs are gone for lower-paying jobs, and many people are growing despondant about finding employment. All the unemployment numbers are are talking points for you holier-than-thou neocon republicans. Show me the percentage of employable adults working, and show me the median income of the US, and I’ll be more impressed.
Funny, I saw that the OP suggested that Bush allowed the unfettered free-market model to blossom out of control, not that he invented free-market. And you can take your snide comments about upticks in the GDP and shove them.
Sorry, TP, that you had to see this outburst, but this jerk touched a nerve.
July 9th, 2006 at 12:09 amLaisez faire
Main Entry: democracy
Part of Speech: noun
Definition: representation
Synonyms: capitalism, commonwealth, egalitarianism, emancipation, equalitarianism, equality, free enterprise, freedom, justice, laissez faire, liberal government, private ownership, representative government, republic, suffrage
Antonyms: autocracy
And, by the way…it’s French. What shall we call it? Freedomgalitarianchoicebythepeoplefries?
July 9th, 2006 at 7:59 amforgive me for copy n paste offense, but–
So what is the TOTAL job creation of Bush, how many jobs did we loose in the first 22 months? Anyone have that data?
July 9th, 2006 at 9:38 amBush is a corrupt legal criminal who should have been impeached
A LONG time ago. But all those responsible to keep the government
sacred ARE CORRUPT!
Public servants to serve us, yeh right…. reciprocal service to keep
careers IN THIS COUNTRY, stable fair pay, be of service to us.
IT’S ENOUGH TO MAKE YOU PUUUUKKKKKEEEE!!!!!
Welcome to the land of Justice, where all the criminals who
state the constituion is just a god damn piece of paper
has about as much integrity with the economy
CORRUPT!!!!!!!!!
July 9th, 2006 at 4:02 pmOh my God!!! Bush believes strongly in the free enterprise system!?! Run for the hills people, and grab your all of your possessions…and you better hide good too or the mean old big business people will get you! I knew this was a left leaning web site but are most of you socialists?
Help me out here…what specific steps did Bush take after taking office that caused big business to clamp down on the little man? Oh, besides signing into law Sarbanes-Oxley which was probably the most restrictive clamp down on public companies since the Securities and Exchange Act of 1933. “Bush started it†is really the premise of your argument? Are you going to stick by that assertion even though 98% of all of the high crimes and misdemeanors committed by Enron, WorldCom and the like occurred during the Clinton Administration? Even though the dot.com bubble was generated during the same Clinton Administration? You are really going to stick to your story that big corporations started being even more big bad meanies after Bush took office?
Talk about being delusional, dude. Your claim that corporate America suddenly stopped looking after their bottom line and decided to pay their employees less than they were worth and abused them more because of who was in the White House is just plain stupid.
This just in: “After spending decades aggressively going after the most talented workforce, American corporations suddenly shifted tactics and have, for some mysterious reason after the election, began a strategy of crapping on their employees in an attempt to increase profits and be more competitive.†Just how naive to you have to be to believe such a thing?
Can you find businesses being run poorly? Yes. Can you find examples of companies shifting their labor force to other countries? Sure. In fact you will find all sorts of unethical behavior, corruption, sexual harassment, embezzlement and all around bad manors. Of course, it won’t be anywhere close to what you would find at say…the UN, but if you spend all of your energy looking for something you will most certainly find it, especially if it supports you preconceived notions of the world. If you think this behavior exists to a lesser extent in the rest of the world then you might as well just pull that big rock in front of the cave you are hiding in to stay away from the big business meanies that are out to get you.
OK, I know I’m piss’n in the wind here. I might as well be trying to convince the Unibomber that technology is a really cool thing. I know it won’t be a cave you will be hiding in so that you don’t have to compete with others in the big bad world but rather a rent controlled apartment in a safe and soft place in a socialistic country where you never have to worry about working hard and becoming successful. But stop being delusional. The US will never abandon the free enterprise system. Please go find someplace that already has. It’s obviously the best thing for everyone.
July 9th, 2006 at 5:22 pmI’m not a Democrat or republican so I could care less about Clinton or Bush.
August 3rd, 2006 at 11:13 amI will mention a few nasty stats that will destroy the good ‘ol USA.
The U.S. has a 804 billion dollar Current Account Deficit for 2005 and will breach 900 billion for the fiscal 2006 year.
We had a 700 billion dollar Governmental debt increase for the last fiscal year(including S.S. and other trust fund Raids)
We borrow most of the money to keep our country running (Somewhat) from Europe and Asia, in return they are buying many of our assets up making us into sharecroppers or slaves whatever term one wants to use. I would call that Neo-colonialism but most call it Globalization but it’s just a new spin on a old Colonial game that the European Bankers are masters at.
U.S. infrustruture such as Roads, Bridges, Sewage treatment, Water systems, Dams, Levees, power grid,etc received a d-minus as a whole last year and within a few years will have failing marks(the country is falling apart) and we have not invested much during the past 30 years and it shows!!!
We work the most hours in the industrial world, have few fringe benefits and it only continues to worsen.
The Mercer Survey indicated that Americans rank 21 in pay when compared to other countries. Our healthcare system ranks 37th. We have the most expensive higher education system in the world leading to a class warfare “Why do the elites want the folks educated and smart as to overthrow them later’?
Our primary schools rank towards the bottom of the Industrial world when competing in International tests with Europe and Asia.
Our Gini-index is approaching 50 and we have close to 50 trillion dollars throughout the economy (Government, Private debts combined)
We are adding 3 1/2 trillion dollars yearly in new debts throughout the economy.
For each new dollar of profit in the U.S. Economy we are adding 6 dollars in new debts so we are just selling our assets as stated above to fund our lifestyles.
Before 1982 we added 1.87 dollar of debt for each dollar of increased GDP! Which means in reality we have negative economic growth!!!
We have 1/3rd of the world’s prisoners and our Corrections Industry (parole,prison,probation) is over 8 million and rising rapidly. It was 1 million in 1981!!
So what happened to the U.S.?
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