Comments on: Newsweek Falsely Claims that Bush has Conceded Global Warming is Caused by Human Activity

By: Another Green World » Blog Archive » They’re still doing it

Another Green World » Blog Archive » They’re still doing it — Mon, 24 Jul 2006 20:33:35 +0000

[...] Add to this Newsweek’s despicable “Green Issue” portrait of George Bush, so riddled with outright lies I can’t even start: Okay — he did not propose the “first-ever cut in mercury emissions from power plants”; the Clinton administration’s “Maximum Achievable Control Technology,” had it remained in place, would have reduced power-plant mercury emissions by an estimated 92 percent by 2007; Bush’s “cap-and-trade” plan aimed at mercury would reduce mercury emissions from a current 48 tons per year to 34 tons by 2018. The plan was shredded by everyone from Sen. Jim Jeffords to Republican Sen. Olympia Snowe. That Newsweek, which used to be a decent magazine under the late Maynard Parker, would suggest otherwise is unconscionable. [...]

By: Plonker

Plonker — Thu, 13 Jul 2006 17:38:53 +0000

America – While there will of course be natural fluctuations in warming due to sun-related activity, it is a responsibility for the health of humanity to not exacerbate any warming. It seems that there is little doubt that there is a “greenhouse effect” from increased CO2 emissions (part of the reason why Earth is at a currently hospitable temperature), and so the ever increasing concentrations in the atmosphere are bound to increase temperatures. Even a slight change may push the climate past a tipping point which could cause problems for milennia.

Of course, there are innumerable other benefits that will come about from a switch to energy efficiency and clean technologies.

Lastly, if Gore was not even able to stand up for the election he won in 2000, I doubt he would have been (or will be) effective in changing environmental policy. He is doing his best work by trying to appeal to the people.

By: Mr. Evil

Mr. Evil — Tue, 11 Jul 2006 15:33:26 +0000

#66 Solitaire: Bootlickers don’t care about truth or facts. Rhetoric is their specialty. Just keep repeating the same thing over and over and either people will eventually believe it or they will eventually ignore it. Either way they win and get to move on to other things they can destroy or corrupt or steal.

By: Solitaire

Solitaire — Tue, 11 Jul 2006 15:23:51 +0000

Seixon said “the scientists agree that it is hard to figure out exactly how much humans have affected it, if any at all”.
The lie in that statement is the “if any at all” part. They may not be able to pinpoint EXACTLY how much humans have affected the climate, but there is NO DOUBT in the collective scientific community that it is affectly it GREATLY. That’s clear to me, and to those on this site, and the more this rightwing troll tries to twist and turn the facts, the sillier he sounds.
Wiggle all you want. The change in climate will be a disaster for everyone, even you, Seixon. Then try to wiggle yourself out of that.

By: kdaves

kdaves — Tue, 11 Jul 2006 04:23:33 +0000

Good call. The man’s a liar, and his back-up, the msm, forgets which way is up. That’s always the case with liars.

Here the liars won’t be exposed because the ones who should do it are part of the lie.

We are so screwed.

By: Bookworm Room » Blog Archive » The liberal blogs

Bookworm Room » Blog Archive » The liberal blogs — Tue, 11 Jul 2006 03:16:22 +0000

[...] Not all of the top liberal bloggers employ “in the know” shorthand. Some of them write traditionally, but I just have a problem with what they’re saying. For example, Think Progress has a good post taking on a mistake in Newsweek regarding President Bush’s position on global warming: The most recent Newsweek has an article called â€œThe President: Shades of Green,â€ examining the Presidentâ€™s environmental record. Newsweek reports that Bush has conceded human activity is responsible for global warming: And on global warming, the most controversial part of his green scorecard, Bush acknowledged back in June 2001 that the National Academy of Sciences believed climate change was â€œdue in large part to human activity.â€ The dispute is what to do about that warming. [...]

By: Steve53

Steve53 — Mon, 10 Jul 2006 23:25:43 +0000

MSMBC – the other Fox network.

Comment by Briseadh na Faire
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Agreed.
Olbermann is an anomaly.

By: Wisco

Wisco — Mon, 10 Jul 2006 20:54:33 +0000

Actually, he kind of did and kind of didn’t it depends on which part of his self-contradictory statement you ignore to get it to make logical sense.

First, he did say that there was a debate over whether humans were responsible for global warming. But practically in the same breath, he said he was ’solving it’ by addressing human activity.

Like a lot of things the president says, Bush tried to play both sides of the field and wound up with an illogical statement that really didn’t mean a damned thing. So now, it’s like the briefcase in Pulp Fiction – a symbol that means whatever the viewer wants it to mean.

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http://griperblade.blogspot.com – grumblings from the heartland

By: cynic

cynic — Mon, 10 Jul 2006 18:58:57 +0000

Oops….Shades of Brown.

By: cynic

cynic — Mon, 10 Jul 2006 18:57:40 +0000

A href=”http://www.environment2004.org/documents.php”>Shades of Brown.

By: DrSinker

DrSinker — Mon, 10 Jul 2006 18:42:44 +0000

cynic,

You may be right – perhaps I was too easy on them. Regardless, it’s a lousy article. Poor choice of sources, very incomplete picture, you name it. I just don’t necessarily have a lot of faith in the MSM’s basic competency these days. Shoddy journalism can read pro-Bush, there’s no doubt about it.

By: cynic

cynic — Mon, 10 Jul 2006 18:24:57 +0000

I just read the article. Itâ€™s a pretty shoddy piece of journalism at best, but I wouldnâ€™t necessarily characterize it as overly â€œpro-Bushâ€.

DrSinker – you’ve got to be kidding.

To activists, Bush’s record is unremittingly bad. They accuse him of relaxing clean-air standards on power plants and refineries, and of blocking Kyoto-style measures to halt global warming. They even question the sincerity of his plan to protect the Hawaiian Islands, given the Navy’s nearby use of powerful sonar that can harm whales. [...]

On the other side, Bush’s aides say the president is unchangedâ€”he has always been an ardent conservationistâ€”and have their own take on his record.

This is standard PR bullshit. Some unnamed ‘activists’ say so-and-so – no actual attempt to verify or dispute those claims – and then we get the other side – from Bush’s aides! There you have it: is Bush Green? Activists say NO! Aides say YES! You decide!

No mention that he’s the worst President on the environment – ever. Hands down. Nothing to discuss. Pick an issue. Do the math…

By: Tom Hamill

Tom Hamill — Mon, 10 Jul 2006 18:20:17 +0000

Judd,

FYI, it should be the “intergovernmental” panel on climate change rather than “international” — see http://www.ipcc.ch

Thanks.

Tom

By: Krazny

Krazny — Mon, 10 Jul 2006 18:01:41 +0000

Solitare,

I knew it was a joke. Madashell was confused, and I didn’t want him to think it was real. Check out “the Yes Man” if you want to know where my sense humour is.

By: Solitaire

Solitaire — Mon, 10 Jul 2006 17:55:15 +0000

Krazny, of course it’s not really the Halliburton website. It’s a joke! Where is your sense of humor, man?

By: Juan C

Juan C — Mon, 10 Jul 2006 17:52:14 +0000

BUSH: I have said consistently that global warming is a serious problem.

Probably it would be better for everybody if Bush never concedes that Global Warming is a threat. He would want to find Global Warming wherever he is and smoke him out of his cave.

By: Lily

Lily — Mon, 10 Jul 2006 17:39:48 +0000

Bruse Gorton, I agree with your comments about Feingold. For these reasons, I’m hoping he’ll be seriously considered for Vice President. Then maybe at some future time…

By: Amazed

Amazed — Mon, 10 Jul 2006 17:31:37 +0000

Of course Bush is out of the mainstream. In order for Bush to acknowledge science, and the unquestionable fact of global warming, he would have to put his religious dogma behind him. But when you let your religious magical thinking, and your oil company benefactors tell you what to do, you have to ignore science or there will be a conflict of interest.

It would be a conflict of interest for Bush to be part of the mainstream.

By: roo

roo — Mon, 10 Jul 2006 17:24:14 +0000

re: 44 – fake indeed – fun, and pretty well done.

http://www.corpwatch.org/article.php?id=13568

The McDonald’s hack at Serious Games was genius as well….
http://www.mcdonaldsinteractive.com/index.html

By: Jim

Jim — Mon, 10 Jul 2006 17:21:29 +0000

#42: The comment, “Thereâ€™s a debate over whether itâ€™s manmade or naturally caused,” speaks for itself, I suppose, but what do you glean from this comment?

Sure, “there’s a debate,” but it’s an ideological debate, not a scientific debate.