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		<title>By: Eric</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Mar 2008 08:01:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Eric&lt;/strong&gt;

Thanks for the blog!</description>
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<p>Thanks for the blog!<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4652556', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<dc:creator>Valentine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Mar 2008 22:30:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<dc:creator>Type Ii Diabetes Medicine</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: eblair</title>
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		<dc:creator>eblair</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Jul 2006 03:45:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>133 &quot;who applauds abortion? planned parenthood and NARAL among others.&quot;

that&#039;s really weak.  Your making this ridiculous unsupported assertion that does not make it true.  It&#039;s BS

â€œthe fetus?â€ the baby. it is a baby.&quot;  what is this, the conservative PC cops?  fetus was still a word last I checked, and I think it makes a lot of sense to distinguish in utero fetuses from babies.  The dictionary agrees with me on this one</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>133 &#8220;who applauds abortion? planned parenthood and NARAL among others.&#8221;</p>
<p>that&#8217;s really weak.  Your making this ridiculous unsupported assertion that does not make it true.  It&#8217;s BS</p>
<p>â€œthe fetus?â€ the baby. it is a baby.&#8221;  what is this, the conservative PC cops?  fetus was still a word last I checked, and I think it makes a lot of sense to distinguish in utero fetuses from babies.  The dictionary agrees with me on this one<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=667392', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Steve53</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve53</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Jul 2006 00:17:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Again, people like Zell are about the only chance we have of winning elections, particularly in the South. You may not like it, but that is the truth, man. 

Comment by Conservative Dem 
=============== 
Are you serious? 
An unhinged loudmouth who talks about wishing that he could challenge an individual to a dual? 
He&#039;s completely fallen off the political radar screen.
 I suggest you rethink your position.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Again, people like Zell are about the only chance we have of winning elections, particularly in the South. You may not like it, but that is the truth, man. </p>
<p>Comment by Conservative Dem<br />
===============<br />
Are you serious?<br />
An unhinged loudmouth who talks about wishing that he could challenge an individual to a dual?<br />
He&#8217;s completely fallen off the political radar screen.<br />
 I suggest you rethink your position.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=667061', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Bruce Gorton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bruce Gorton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Jul 2006 15:04:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Which is to say conservative idiot, you don&#039;t actually have an argument to counter anything I posted there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Which is to say conservative idiot, you don&#8217;t actually have an argument to counter anything I posted there.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=665745', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Solitaire</title>
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		<dc:creator>Solitaire</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Jul 2006 14:58:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Itâ€™s like trying to debate digital vs. analog wristwatches with a headhunter from Borneo.&quot;

:)  Exactly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Itâ€™s like trying to debate digital vs. analog wristwatches with a headhunter from Borneo.&#8221;</p>
<p>:)  Exactly.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=665733', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Obie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Obie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Jul 2006 12:57:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>People who discredit science shouldn&#039;t benefit from it.  So to all you fundamentalists, give up your radios, televisions, playstations, refrigerators, automobiles, computers, medications, etc, etc, etc</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>People who discredit science shouldn&#8217;t benefit from it.  So to all you fundamentalists, give up your radios, televisions, playstations, refrigerators, automobiles, computers, medications, etc, etc, etc<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=665614', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: TripMaster Monkey</title>
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		<dc:creator>TripMaster Monkey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Jul 2006 12:30:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Reply to &lt;a href=&quot;http://thinkprogress.org/2006/07/10/president-bush-will-likely-cast-the-first-veto/#comment-665601&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;liberal idiot&lt;/a&gt;:

If that is true, then why did you take the time to respond?

Apparently &lt;em&gt;somebody&lt;/em&gt; &#039;gives a shit&#039;...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reply to <a href="http://thinkprogress.org/2006/07/10/president-bush-will-likely-cast-the-first-veto/#comment-665601" rel="nofollow">liberal idiot</a>:</p>
<p>If that is true, then why did you take the time to respond?</p>
<p>Apparently <em>somebody</em> &#8216;gives a shit&#8217;&#8230;<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=665604', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: liberal idiot</title>
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		<dc:creator>liberal idiot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Jul 2006 12:26:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>only an idiot would give a shit about your take on christianity or anyhting else for that matter</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>only an idiot would give a shit about your take on christianity or anyhting else for that matter<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=665601', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Bruce Gorton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bruce Gorton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Jul 2006 11:00:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First let me say, JPV does not speak for all Atheists and niether do I.

The following is my take on Christianity. 

That said, the trouble with religion isn&#039;t that it proposes an answer, it is that it expects us to take the first answer available as being the truth, rather then questioning it. Further, it places the emphasis for all moral behaviour on some supreme being, with the exception of Budhism. It is in essence an attempt to hearken back to childhood, when mommy and daddy took care of you, and punished you when you were naughty. 

Strangely, if you read the Bible there is evidence that it doesn&#039;t view a fetus as a person just yet, therefore &quot;The Bible tells us so&quot; doesn&#039;t even qualify as true when used as an argument against abortion, and certainly has no place whatsoever in a argument about stem cell research. For those who have actually read the book, the religious perspective most Christians hold is in fact mystifying, because the Bible quite clearly does not say anything about it. 

It is further mystifying, that a document which bans freedom of religion, advises stoning your children to death for backtalk, has a whole section devoted to rules around slavery which doesn&#039;t include a ban on slavery, holds that the maximum period a contract can be valid for is 49 years (including contracts of sale) and holds that this same all powerful being hates figs, is considered to be the source of all human morality. We have not only moved beyond the Bible, we have actually formed a society which in a lot of cases directly contradicts it. Indeed the very basis of capitalism is a direct contradiction of &quot;thou shalt not covet.&quot; In truth, there are only three commandments which are really in our law at all &quot;Thou shalt not murder&quot; &quot;Thou shalt not steal&quot; and &quot;Thou shalt not bare false witness.&quot; The rest are directly contradicted by freedom of religion, freedom of speech, and the most popular economic system of our age.

Even Jesus doesn&#039;t get much say in how we live our lives. His ideal of free love (Love One another, as I have loved you) got nothing but open scorn when the hippies decided to take him on his word on that, his statements on Church governance are in direct contradiction to both the Protestant and the Catholic churches (He was anti public prayer, and very anti any sort of church hierarchy, viewing priests more as teachers then intercessors.)

Now, as an Atheist I have read the book, read up on Christianity&#039;s history (where, if I said that I was an Atheist in any age when Christianity was supreme I wouldn&#039;t get to say it twice) and I have noted the behaviour of a lot of Christians around me. Frankly, for all Christians claim to be more moral then anyone else, I haven&#039;t seen it. Mostly, if someone comes to me asking if I want to invest in a Christian venture it is a con, if someone claims to treat their workers in a christian manner it means they pay them slave wages while making them pray for profits, and if someone claims to be a very good Christian, they are in jail or going there for some crime or another. The best Christians I know aren&#039;t good Christians, they are just good people. 

And all of this is besides the fact that the basis of Christianity is so unlikely, as to make the argument about as valid as saying that the world was created by a giant space squid and we need to get ready to move it on our space programs, because the world is in fact an egg and about to hatch (hence the continental plates.) 

Now back to the argument on stem cell research and whether GWB is in fact a moron.

Stem cell research shows promise, GWB never really has. That&#039;s all one really has to say on the matter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First let me say, JPV does not speak for all Atheists and niether do I.</p>
<p>The following is my take on Christianity. </p>
<p>That said, the trouble with religion isn&#8217;t that it proposes an answer, it is that it expects us to take the first answer available as being the truth, rather then questioning it. Further, it places the emphasis for all moral behaviour on some supreme being, with the exception of Budhism. It is in essence an attempt to hearken back to childhood, when mommy and daddy took care of you, and punished you when you were naughty. </p>
<p>Strangely, if you read the Bible there is evidence that it doesn&#8217;t view a fetus as a person just yet, therefore &#8220;The Bible tells us so&#8221; doesn&#8217;t even qualify as true when used as an argument against abortion, and certainly has no place whatsoever in a argument about stem cell research. For those who have actually read the book, the religious perspective most Christians hold is in fact mystifying, because the Bible quite clearly does not say anything about it. </p>
<p>It is further mystifying, that a document which bans freedom of religion, advises stoning your children to death for backtalk, has a whole section devoted to rules around slavery which doesn&#8217;t include a ban on slavery, holds that the maximum period a contract can be valid for is 49 years (including contracts of sale) and holds that this same all powerful being hates figs, is considered to be the source of all human morality. We have not only moved beyond the Bible, we have actually formed a society which in a lot of cases directly contradicts it. Indeed the very basis of capitalism is a direct contradiction of &#8220;thou shalt not covet.&#8221; In truth, there are only three commandments which are really in our law at all &#8220;Thou shalt not murder&#8221; &#8220;Thou shalt not steal&#8221; and &#8220;Thou shalt not bare false witness.&#8221; The rest are directly contradicted by freedom of religion, freedom of speech, and the most popular economic system of our age.</p>
<p>Even Jesus doesn&#8217;t get much say in how we live our lives. His ideal of free love (Love One another, as I have loved you) got nothing but open scorn when the hippies decided to take him on his word on that, his statements on Church governance are in direct contradiction to both the Protestant and the Catholic churches (He was anti public prayer, and very anti any sort of church hierarchy, viewing priests more as teachers then intercessors.)</p>
<p>Now, as an Atheist I have read the book, read up on Christianity&#8217;s history (where, if I said that I was an Atheist in any age when Christianity was supreme I wouldn&#8217;t get to say it twice) and I have noted the behaviour of a lot of Christians around me. Frankly, for all Christians claim to be more moral then anyone else, I haven&#8217;t seen it. Mostly, if someone comes to me asking if I want to invest in a Christian venture it is a con, if someone claims to treat their workers in a christian manner it means they pay them slave wages while making them pray for profits, and if someone claims to be a very good Christian, they are in jail or going there for some crime or another. The best Christians I know aren&#8217;t good Christians, they are just good people. </p>
<p>And all of this is besides the fact that the basis of Christianity is so unlikely, as to make the argument about as valid as saying that the world was created by a giant space squid and we need to get ready to move it on our space programs, because the world is in fact an egg and about to hatch (hence the continental plates.) </p>
<p>Now back to the argument on stem cell research and whether GWB is in fact a moron.</p>
<p>Stem cell research shows promise, GWB never really has. That&#8217;s all one really has to say on the matter.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=665580', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: SKdeA</title>
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		<dc:creator>SKdeA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Jul 2006 08:24:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Chase, we&#039;d rather you didn&#039;t too. Goodnight.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Chase, we&#8217;d rather you didn&#8217;t too. Goodnight.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=665524', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: SKdeA</title>
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		<dc:creator>SKdeA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Jul 2006 08:21:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s an interesting tidbit from the Genetics Science Learning Center at the University of Utah, not exactly a bastion of atheism:

&quot;Newborn infants no longer need their umbilical cords, so they have traditionally been discarded as a by-product of the birth process. In recent years, however, the multipotent-stem-cell-rich blood found in the umbilical cord has proven useful in treating the same types of health problems as those treated using bone marrow stem cells and PBSCs.

Umbilical cord blood stem cell transplants are less prone to rejection than either bone marrow or peripheral blood stem cells. This is probably because the cells have not yet developed the features that can be recognized and attacked by the recipient&#039;s immune system. Also, because umbilical cord blood lacks well-developed immune cells, there is less chance that the transplanted cells will attack the recipient&#039;s body, a problem called graft versus host disease.

Both the versatility and availability of umbilical cord blood stem cells makes them a potent resource for transplant therapies. &quot;

So why is this never, never brought up? Every baby born has an umbilical cord! The more born, the more stem cells for all!

But I guess that doesn&#039;t froth up the right-wing, anti-abortion followers of GWB and BushCo.
Too bad, it sounds pretty promising. But I fear it will be decades before we can undo the damage the past 6 years have brought.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s an interesting tidbit from the Genetics Science Learning Center at the University of Utah, not exactly a bastion of atheism:</p>
<p>&#8220;Newborn infants no longer need their umbilical cords, so they have traditionally been discarded as a by-product of the birth process. In recent years, however, the multipotent-stem-cell-rich blood found in the umbilical cord has proven useful in treating the same types of health problems as those treated using bone marrow stem cells and PBSCs.</p>
<p>Umbilical cord blood stem cell transplants are less prone to rejection than either bone marrow or peripheral blood stem cells. This is probably because the cells have not yet developed the features that can be recognized and attacked by the recipient&#8217;s immune system. Also, because umbilical cord blood lacks well-developed immune cells, there is less chance that the transplanted cells will attack the recipient&#8217;s body, a problem called graft versus host disease.</p>
<p>Both the versatility and availability of umbilical cord blood stem cells makes them a potent resource for transplant therapies. &#8221;</p>
<p>So why is this never, never brought up? Every baby born has an umbilical cord! The more born, the more stem cells for all!</p>
<p>But I guess that doesn&#8217;t froth up the right-wing, anti-abortion followers of GWB and BushCo.<br />
Too bad, it sounds pretty promising. But I fear it will be decades before we can undo the damage the past 6 years have brought.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=665523', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Jake</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/07/10/president-bush-will-likely-cast-the-first-veto/comment-page-3/#comment-665485</link>
		<dc:creator>Jake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Jul 2006 05:50:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Science is a belief.  Nothing more.&lt;/i&gt; - Conservative Dem

Did you use a computer to type that statement, Mr. Conservative?  Did you just believe that computer into existence?  Or did science have something to do with it?

Did you or one of your ancestors get ever get a bacterial infection?  Were you treated with antibiotics?  Did you just believe those antibiotics into existence?  Or did science have something to do with it? 

Did you drive a car or take a bus to work, assuming that you actually work?  Did you just believe that automobile into existence?  Or did science have something to do with it?

&quot;Nothing more&quot;.  How absurd.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Science is a belief.  Nothing more.</i> &#8211; Conservative Dem</p>
<p>Did you use a computer to type that statement, Mr. Conservative?  Did you just believe that computer into existence?  Or did science have something to do with it?</p>
<p>Did you or one of your ancestors get ever get a bacterial infection?  Were you treated with antibiotics?  Did you just believe those antibiotics into existence?  Or did science have something to do with it? </p>
<p>Did you drive a car or take a bus to work, assuming that you actually work?  Did you just believe that automobile into existence?  Or did science have something to do with it?</p>
<p>&#8220;Nothing more&#8221;.  How absurd.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=665485', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Chase</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/07/10/president-bush-will-likely-cast-the-first-veto/comment-page-3/#comment-665432</link>
		<dc:creator>Chase</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Jul 2006 04:13:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>who applauds abortion? planned parenthood and NARAL among others.

&quot;the fetus?&quot; the baby. it is a baby. 

i would rather not get off on this tangent either tonight.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>who applauds abortion? planned parenthood and NARAL among others.</p>
<p>&#8220;the fetus?&#8221; the baby. it is a baby. </p>
<p>i would rather not get off on this tangent either tonight.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=665432', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: eblair</title>
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		<dc:creator>eblair</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Jul 2006 03:58:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Science IS a belief. Nothing more.
Comment by Conservative Dem â€” July 10, 2006 @ 6:24 pm 


science is not a belief, it is a way of thinking, a way of searching for truth.  Science does not dictate any particular outcome--it relies on experience and testing to seek truth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Science IS a belief. Nothing more.<br />
Comment by Conservative Dem â€” July 10, 2006 @ 6:24 pm </p>
<p>science is not a belief, it is a way of thinking, a way of searching for truth.  Science does not dictate any particular outcome&#8211;it relies on experience and testing to seek truth.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=665404', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: eblair</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/07/10/president-bush-will-likely-cast-the-first-veto/comment-page-3/#comment-665401</link>
		<dc:creator>eblair</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Jul 2006 03:56:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>who cheers and applauds abortion? (I didn&#039;t understand 126 to be supporting this--can&#039;t speak for 126, but it seems possible 126 is making a point about what he/she believes to be an ironic contrast between value placed on fetuses versus value placed on humans who walk the earth, emerged from the womb)  

This is a red herring, one of the straw men arguments Bush likes to build and knock down (&quot;some argue for surrender...&quot;).  no one reasonable (does anyone even unreasonable??) cheers and applauds abortion.  I do believe that a woman&#039;s health, life and body is more important than a fetus that has not reached viability.  even after viability, I still go with the woman&#039;s life and health over the fetus.  It&#039;s not an easy choice by any means but it seems clear to me that living breathing human beings, including women, take priority over fetuses.

But that&#039;s sort of a tangent.  the real point is that no one &quot;cheers and applauds&quot; an abortion.  it&#039;s not a happy event, even for those who are pro-choice.  But the alternatives to providing safe, legal abortions are worse, in my view</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>who cheers and applauds abortion? (I didn&#8217;t understand 126 to be supporting this&#8211;can&#8217;t speak for 126, but it seems possible 126 is making a point about what he/she believes to be an ironic contrast between value placed on fetuses versus value placed on humans who walk the earth, emerged from the womb)  </p>
<p>This is a red herring, one of the straw men arguments Bush likes to build and knock down (&#8221;some argue for surrender&#8230;&#8221;).  no one reasonable (does anyone even unreasonable??) cheers and applauds abortion.  I do believe that a woman&#8217;s health, life and body is more important than a fetus that has not reached viability.  even after viability, I still go with the woman&#8217;s life and health over the fetus.  It&#8217;s not an easy choice by any means but it seems clear to me that living breathing human beings, including women, take priority over fetuses.</p>
<p>But that&#8217;s sort of a tangent.  the real point is that no one &#8220;cheers and applauds&#8221; an abortion.  it&#8217;s not a happy event, even for those who are pro-choice.  But the alternatives to providing safe, legal abortions are worse, in my view<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=665401', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Chase</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/07/10/president-bush-will-likely-cast-the-first-veto/comment-page-3/#comment-665370</link>
		<dc:creator>Chase</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Jul 2006 03:24:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#126 - I don&#039;t now and probably never will understand hostility toward the unborn. 

I know this isn&#039;t the the exact topic, but I just can&#039;t comprehend those who cheer and applaud abortion. I&#039;m personally torn on the subject but one thing is clear: it&#039;s a horrible thing that should occur as infrequently as possible and be prevented when other means are available.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#126 &#8211; I don&#8217;t now and probably never will understand hostility toward the unborn. </p>
<p>I know this isn&#8217;t the the exact topic, but I just can&#8217;t comprehend those who cheer and applaud abortion. I&#8217;m personally torn on the subject but one thing is clear: it&#8217;s a horrible thing that should occur as infrequently as possible and be prevented when other means are available.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=665370', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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