ThinkFast PM: July 11, 2006
ThinkFast PM: July 11, 2006
A Treasury Department analysis “presented in the Mid-Session Review itself confirms what outside experts have consistently said - tax cuts do not come remotely close to paying for themselves.â€
Conservatives are outraged that a strict new immigration bill in Colorado still allows children of undocumented immigrants to receive public assistance like food and healthcare: “We’re helping create the next generation of terrorists,” said Rep. Debbie Stafford, R-Aurora.
Spencer Ackerman on the Pentagon’s claim that U.S. military detainees are now protected by the Geneva Conventions: “The very obvious loophole is what will happen to detainees outside of U.S. military custody — as in CIA custody, such as the so-called ‘black sites,’ where Geneva is a sick joke.”
Michael Savage: “Liberalism is, in essence, the HIV virus.”
There is as much wind power potential off our coasts “as the current capacity of all power plants in the United States combined,” according to a new report sponsored by the U.S. Department of Energy, Massachusetts Technology Collaborative, and General Electric.
“Don’t believe Social Security phase-out is coming down the pike again next year?” Read this.
And finally: Watch incredible video from a camera attached to an Orbiter Shuttle rocket booster — both the ascent and descent (complete with parachute ocean landing) are caught on tape.
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July 11th, 2006 at 8:21 pmMichael Savage is a pure genius. I wish I would have thought of the 'HIV=Liberalism' bit. So symbolic. So true.
July 11th, 2006 at 8:29 pmHo Chi Minh: "Sorry about the double entry, finger slipped." - - With a name like Ho, you can take that a couple of ways.
July 11th, 2006 at 8:30 pm“We’re helping create the next generation of terrorists,†said Rep. Debbie Stafford, R-Aurora
Its good to see the Republicans are starting to see the light... oh wait... she means Mexicans? WTF? Mexicans were behind 911? I thought they were blaming the Iraqis?
July 11th, 2006 at 8:31 pmWhen is Michael Savage going to put those progressives in their place once and for all and just point out the obvious ... once and for all ... that indeed the world is FLAT... ThinkProgress=ThinkStupid ..DUH! ...Round planet ... those stupid stupid progressives....next they will be calling for democracy, liberty, and freedom! hahahaha ..where do they think they live? An enlightened America?
July 11th, 2006 at 8:34 pmDebbie Stafford is dead-on. Why the hell are we enabling illegals to remain viable in this country? Starve 'em out, sick 'em out, and KICK 'em out. If they want to Americans, then they can go through the necessary steps and procedures. We shouldn't give illegals ONE PENNY of any type of aid, be it education, medical, etc.
July 11th, 2006 at 8:35 pm#7-
Umm, what does anything you just said have to do with phenomenon of liberalism undermining the foundations of our society? Anything intelligent to add?
July 11th, 2006 at 8:38 pm“We’re helping create the next generation of terrorists,â€
The terrorist problem was cured in Afghan...wait that didn't work..well it sure as hell worked in Ira..oh wait, that didn't work either..those korean terrorists...oh they can't do squat, missiles don't even work..Mexico, Yes Mexico is the new axis of evil!
The terrorists are crossing the borders!!
July 11th, 2006 at 8:39 pmFear FeAR!!
Tax cuts don't pay for themselves?
The 2003 Bush Tax cut MORE then payed for itself. Federal Tax revenue has actually gone up roughly 20% since the Bush tax cut was enacted.
Here is a link to a Dept. of Treasury Graph proving it true:
http://www.treas.gov/press/releases/reports/revenue%20growth.jpg
So, Could I please get a retraction from Thinkprogress? Thanks in advance!!
July 11th, 2006 at 8:41 pm#10-
Just go ahead and keep your head buried in the sand. The world is a much better place without you.
July 11th, 2006 at 8:41 pmUmm, what does anything you just said have to do with phenomenon of liberalism undermining the foundations of our society?
How so?
first define liberalism, then look at the culture of corruption thats called the Bush administration...this is strengthening the foundations of the moral majority?
How so?
Seems to me the GOOPers are undemining our society, our laws, and our constitution.
July 11th, 2006 at 8:43 pmDebbie Stafford is right, denying children food and healthcare would create the next generation of terrorists. Oh wait a minute she WANTS to create the next generation of terrorists.
If I was in Colorado I would deport her fast. There are enough evils in the world without having them in my state. Just don't send her to Virginia, or Washington D.C. or the east coast. Send her to Idaho with the White Supremists.
July 11th, 2006 at 8:44 pmThe 2003 Bush Tax cut MORE then payed for itself. Federal Tax revenue has actually gone up roughly 20% since the Bush tax cut was enacted.
Just means bigger government, something the Republicans say they are against, just more hypocrisy.
July 11th, 2006 at 8:48 pmGary-
You are right on, brother. Not counting the first year of Bush's administration - you know, the year of the inherited recession from Clinton's Dot-Com bust, and that little 9:11 thing? - Bush's economic plan has created an incredible amount of growth. The reason? Plain and simple. The tax cuts. We would be in a deep recession, if not a full-blown depression, if not for the tax cuts.
July 11th, 2006 at 8:50 pmSo whos paying that 20% revenue increase smart guys?
You? Me?
July 11th, 2006 at 8:53 pmCool Breeze-
First of all, I won't deny a culture of corruption THROUGHOUT Washington. Politicians are all corrupt, as far as I am concerned. Just look at your Democratic poster-boy, Congressman William Jefferson. 'Nuf said on that.
As far as the tax cuts and bigger government, the pork-fest we know as Congress will eventually come to an end. Well, hopefully. The Republican House is finally flexing it's Conservative muscles, starting with the Illegal Immigration issue. It is only a matter of time before enough people get pissed, and they put a stop to this non-sense.
July 11th, 2006 at 8:55 pm#17-
It's called captial gains taxation. The richest americans are paying into most of the 20% increase. The less wealthy americans are taxed, the more capital they invest. The more capital they invest, the more taxes are taken from their investment income. Listen to Einstein: "The most powerful force in nature is compound interest." That is were all the extra money is coming from. Yes, the rich recieved tax cuts. But, they are still paying through the nose in captial gains taxes.
July 11th, 2006 at 8:59 pmAs far as the tax cuts and bigger government, the pork-fest we know as Congress will eventually come to an end.
Well, hopefully.
[not if you keep re-electing them]
The Republican House is finally flexing it’s Conservative muscles, starting with the Illegal Immigration issue.
July 11th, 2006 at 9:00 pm[I have lived in texas a long time, there is no change that I have seen on immigration, bush as you recall wants to give them amnesty, there has been no change on the amount of illegals nor the people who keep hiring them]
That extra 20% is mostly coming from business revenues and the top 5% of wage earners as they are all making more money due to the tax cuts. Business invests more because of it and the "rich" are investing more because of it. Simple economics.
Now if we can just get a congress that decreases the budget every year instead of continually make the budget larger. Are the Dems going to run this fall with a plan to reduce the Budget across the board? I don't have faith that the Repugs will after watching what they did with it for the last few years.
July 11th, 2006 at 9:02 pmCool Breeze-
When I say that the Conservative Republicans are flexing their muscles, it has nothing to do with Bush. He is selling out the country with the whole amnesty plan. Screw that. The only people with a backbone are the conservatives in the House, who have put forth the "enforcement first" immigration bill. They will reinforce ILLEGAL immigration as the crime that it is, and secure the border first before addressing any other immigration-related issues. Then, I'm sure they will go after the businesses employing the illegals.
July 11th, 2006 at 9:05 pmTP = TS; Conservatives condemned scientists centuries ago who dared to point out that the earth revolves around the sun instead of the reverse. Apparently you wish to return us to those glorious days when heretics were burned at the stake.
July 11th, 2006 at 9:05 pmThe Republican House is finally flexing it’s Conservative muscles
don't you find it odd that they are just now flexing their 'flab', after all these years? Right around election time?
The less wealthy americans are taxed, the more capital they invest.
July 11th, 2006 at 9:05 pm[I dont think this is accurate.]
There is as much wind power potential off our coasts “as the current capacity of all neoconjob trolls combined,†according to a new report sponsored by the U.S. Department of Energy, Massachusetts Technology Collaborative, and General Electric.
Thinkstupid's living up to his name, and has the potential to reap high profits from his gasbag philosophy...keep 'er comin' idiot, we need more hot air.
July 11th, 2006 at 9:06 pmI think there ought to be a way to censure someone with the name "ThinkProgress=ThinkStupid" here, no? Judd? What does he have to call himself, supertroll to get tossed?
July 11th, 2006 at 9:06 pmConservatives are outraged that a strict new immigration bill in Colorado still allows children of undocumented immigrants to receive public assistance like food and healthcare: “We’re helping create the next generation of terrorists,†said Rep. Debbie Stafford, R-Aurora.
What an unholy bitch. She would let children go hungry and medically untreated because their parents made certain choices for them? Unforgiveable.
July 11th, 2006 at 9:08 pmHe is selling out the country with the whole amnesty plan. Screw that. [you guys elected him wtf?]
The only people with a backbone are the conservatives in the House [ they dpn't even have the ethics to stop corruption, do you think bush wont just make a signing statement and null the immigration bill?]
July 11th, 2006 at 9:09 pmGary-
I agree with you totally that the Dems will NEVER reduce the budget. They will take the additional tax revenues and simply spend more. As for the Republicans, I don't know. I really believe that eventually they will get back to whole "Contract with America" ideals that enabled them to seize the House and Senate, and the deficiet will disappear. I think they just went crazy, and Bush enabled them, because we had a Republican president. I think the next Republican president will be much more fiscally Conservative.
July 11th, 2006 at 9:09 pmMichael Savage: “Liberalism is, in essence, the HIV virus.â€
That's interesting, because Michael Savage is a boil on humanity's ass.
July 11th, 2006 at 9:11 pmand, last time from randi's site...
Mexico’s presidential election smacks of Florida in 2000. Why would Bush/Cheney care so much about Mexico? The same reason he’s worked up over Venezuela…oil.
greg palast is in mexico, reporting on that mess:
Mexico and Florida have more in common than heat
There is evidence that left-leaning voters have been scrubbed from key electoral lists in Latin America
imagine that...
July 11th, 2006 at 9:12 pm#27-
Damn right. It is unfortunate, but necessary, to cut off illegals, even their children. If we make an example of some of these parasites, then maybe the next border-jumper will think twice before illegally entering the country and putting his/her family at risk. Let me tell you something. My Great-Grandparents came to this country and did not recieve ONE PENNY from any government agency. Nor did they ask.
July 11th, 2006 at 9:13 pmAs for the Republicans, I don’t know. I really believe that eventually they will get back to whole “Contract with America†ideals that enabled them to seize the House
Contract with America..jeez you suckers, how many times are you gonna swallow that same dollop of spooge?
July 11th, 2006 at 9:14 pmthey seized the house for power, not a contract with America, you have created neo-liberals
“We’re helping create the next generation of terrorists,†said Rep. Debbie Stafford, R-Aurora.
No doubt infering her relatives were the "first" generation of terrorists when they slaughtered the innocent Native Americans upon their arrival from Europe.
Someone give that woman a life supply of Lithium...
July 11th, 2006 at 9:14 pm#26-
I thought you "Progressives" didn't believe in censureship? Oh yeah, I forgot. Hypocrisy is a liberal mantra.
July 11th, 2006 at 9:14 pmYa know, it's called common sense that we shouldn't be expected to provide food and healthcare to illegal aliens. Any of you ever heard of "tragedy of the commons?"
Common sense based approaches to illegal immigration (keyword, I L L E G A L), involve penalizing American businesses exploiting these people. To be a liberal, also involves being able to think for yourself, and to hold different opinions on a wide variety of subjects. I L L E G A L immigration is where I completely disagree with the numbnuts who want to open arms to everyone in the world, and help bring the destruction of the US. It's pure common sense, that resources are not unending, and this whole issue has to be approached intelligently, or your own children could suffer. This isn't a scare tactic; it's the simple truth. Look up the tragedy of the commons.
Think.
July 11th, 2006 at 9:16 pmDamn right. It is unfortunate, but necessary, to cut off illegals, even their children. If we make an example of some of these parasites, then maybe the next border-jumper will think twice before illegally entering the country and putting his/her family at risk.
They come over here to work, those that HIRE them put them at risk. If people would not HIRE Illegals then we wouldn't have them crossing the borders.
July 11th, 2006 at 9:16 pmoh yea, michael savage IS a virus also. Hatred only gives way to hatred, and division.
how the HELL can someone like this prosper? Who are his students?
July 11th, 2006 at 9:18 pmI'm sorry if I am making just a little too much sense for you Kool-Aid drinking fanatics. We even have calls for my censureship. Talk about burning people at the stake. Liberals burn everyone at the stake who do not conform with their viewpoints. Take a look at poor Joe Liebermann. The man has dedicated his life to the Democrats and Liberalism, and he being completly ostracized by liberals just because he supports the war in Iraq. You libs are pathetic.
July 11th, 2006 at 9:19 pmWe have a Republican President, a Republican Congress, and "Conservative" Supreme Court and somehow the shitstorm dropped on America by the neocons is the fault of liberals? The trolls that spend hour after hour posting here and other left-leaning blogs know they have cast their lot with a dullard and their pathological allegiance to the Bush White House failed Presidency is telling.
July 11th, 2006 at 9:19 pmAh HA! So Republicans say they are cutting taxes, but they are actually taking MORE tax money from the poor Americans. Double talking liars!
Also, as to Michael Savage, who would have figured that Josef Goebbels would become reincarnated in the body of a closeted, gay, Jewish snake oil salesman from San Francisco?
-GSD
July 11th, 2006 at 9:20 pmI thought you “Progressives†didn’t believe in censureship? Oh yeah, I forgot. Hypocrisy is a liberal mantra.-TrollBoy
Apparently trolling on progressive websites is a nutjob mantra.
July 11th, 2006 at 9:20 pmthe point is they come over here to work because people want cheap labor, and Americans that hire are the ones hurting america for their own profit and personal gain.
July 11th, 2006 at 9:21 pm#36-
I agree completely. The businesses that employ illegals should harshly punished for their crimes. We need to make an example of them also.
July 11th, 2006 at 9:21 pmMost trolls belong to the 23% of people that seek refuge in authoritarian big daddy figures. Please George and Dick, save me from the terrrrists...the world is so cold and I am so scared of the head choppers and the burha girls and the Mexicans and the beaners and the gays.
Pansies.
That goes fro you Seixon, you Danish nitwit.
-GSD
July 11th, 2006 at 9:23 pm#29: "I think the next Republican president will be much more fiscally Conservative." - - Gosh, ya think?
July 11th, 2006 at 9:23 pmDo any of you seriously think illegal immigration is the biggest problem confronting this country? I know Lou Dobbs does, but come on folks, get real.
July 11th, 2006 at 9:23 pmThinkprogress thinkstupid, well...I thought bush excelerated censorship with (laughably) "free speech zones." Don't you see the ridiculousness of that?
Stamping out science results produced by their own research, wow, that's kinda censorship of the worst kind, right? Altering reality because it doesn't suit your purposes, vs. blocking someone whose obvious intent is to cause flaming, with no intelligent discourse.
How ya like me NOW? Don't get me started...the writing is on the wall...my die-hard bush loving, truckdriving father, about 4 months ago, has awakened. he still hates dems for no apparent reason (other than people with blue-collar jobs like driving a semi only can hear rush limbaugh and f*ckers like that on the radio), but he now cannot stand george dumbya bush.
You can't build a house on a foundation of cards...bye bye.
July 11th, 2006 at 9:24 pmTake a look at poor Joe Liebermann.
[he aint poor]
The man has dedicated his life to the Democrats and Liberalism
[then take him]
and he being completly ostracized by liberals just because he supports the war in Iraq [no it goes much deeper]
You libs are pathetic. [But Joe isn't?]
So why didn't Joe join the Republican Party?
July 11th, 2006 at 9:24 pmpoor joe the republicans didn't want him either.
#40-
Dude, we are talking about INCOME TAX CUTS. Capital gains taxes are where all the higher tax revenues are coming from. Go huff some more brake cleaner.
July 11th, 2006 at 9:25 pm#48-
You are right. We surely DO NOT want Joe Liebermann. My point is, he disagrees with mainstream liberalism on one point (Iraq War), and he gets completely dissed. It is a liberal inquisition on poor Joe.
July 11th, 2006 at 9:27 pmdrsinker, when you separate the xenophobes from the people who understand resources are not limitless, you will see clearly that I L L E G A L and unchecked immigration IS a very big concern we should have.
Ya know, it's not just that they eat up resources, but they're undocumented..how many serial killers, pedophiles, rapists, thieves have we let into the country, hmmmmm? You think everyone willing to risk life and limb with that much risk are innocent brown-eyed, Mexican people? Why do you think every civilized country has strict immigration rules?
You want to stick your head in the sand like an ostrich? Again, look up the tragedy of the commons.
July 11th, 2006 at 9:28 pmThe businesses that employ illegals should harshly punished for their crimes. We need to make an example of them also.
this has been going on for forty years and nothing has changed, Illegals are profitable and greedy capitalists only care about the bottom dollar no matter who suffers.
July 11th, 2006 at 9:28 pmGSD,
That goes fro you Seixon, you Danish nitwit.
You still don't know where I live. Jesus you are dumb.
July 11th, 2006 at 9:28 pmI’m sorry if I am making just a little too much sense for you Kool-Aid drinking fanatics. We even have calls for my censureship.
July 11th, 2006 at 9:30 pm- - Don't apologize. You make up for it by being a little too illiterate.
I’m sorry if I am making just a little too much sense for you Kool-Aid drinking fanatics.
...
We even have calls for my censureship.
Comment by ThinkProgress=ThinkStupid
I don't know about you making too much sense here, TP=TS, but you are making me a bit sick. I don't think you should be censored, you have a right to your opinions, and you are free to voice them. I just don't know why you're here if you hate us so much.
I'm done tonight. Play nicely, ya'll...
July 11th, 2006 at 9:30 pmWow, I dont think "you lefties" can be as stupid as this?
July 11th, 2006 at 9:31 pm#53-
HAHAHAHA. I think GSD is on LSD. The fool.
July 11th, 2006 at 9:31 pmI’m sorry if I am making just a little too much sense for you Kool-Aid drinking fanatics. We even have calls for my censureship. Talk about burning people at the stake. Liberals burn everyone at the stake who do not conform with their viewpoints. Take a look at poor Joe Liebermann. The man has dedicated his life to the Democrats and Liberalism, and he being completly ostracized by liberals just because he supports the war in Iraq. You libs are pathetic.
Comment by ThinkProgress=ThinkStupid
July 11th, 2006 at 9:33 pm==================
Yep.
John Dean's latest thesis is so right on the money.
pedophiles
such as these?
* Republican County Constable Larry Dale Floyd was arrested on suspicion of soliciting sex with an 8-year old girl. Floyd has repeatedly won elections for Denton County, Texas, constable.
* Republican judge Mark Pazuhanich pleaded no contest to fondling a 10-year old girl and was sentenced to 10 years probation.
* Republican Party leader Bobby Stumbo was arrested for having sex with a 5-year old boy.
* Republican petition drive manager Tom Randall pleaded guilty to molesting two girls under the age of 14, one of them the daughter of an associate in the petition business.
* Republican County Chairman Armando Tebano was arrested for sexually molesting a 14-year-old girl.
* Republican teacher and former city councilman John Collins pleaded guilty to sexually molesting 13 and 14 year old girls.
* Republican campaign worker Mark Seidensticker is a convicted child molester.
* Republican Mayor Philip Giordano is serving a 37-year sentence in federal prison for sexually abusing 8- and 10-year old girls.
* Republican Mayor John Gosek was arrested on charges of soliciting sex from two 15-year old girls.
* Republican County Commissioner David Swartz pleaded guilty to molesting two girls under the age of 11 and was sentenced to 8 years in prison.
* Republican legislator Edison Misla Aldarondo was sentenced to 10 years in prison for raping his daughter between the ages of 9 and 17.
* Republican Committeeman John R. Curtain was charged with molesting a teenage boy and unlawful sexual contact with a minor.
July 11th, 2006 at 9:33 pmWow, I dont think “you lefties†can be as stupid as this? - \
July 11th, 2006 at 9:35 pm- As stupid as putting a question mark at the end of a declarative sentence?
#54-
You are right. I was grammatically incorrect. I apologize. The failing public schools I went to are no doubt to blame. I sure wish I had, say, school vouchers when I was a kid.
July 11th, 2006 at 9:35 pmheres some more stupid pervert righties
* Republican activist Mark A. Grethen convicted on six counts of sex crimes involving children.
* Republican activist Randal David Ankeney pleaded guilty to attempted sexual assault on a child.
* Republican Congressman Dan Crane had sex with a female minor working as a congressional page.
* Republican activist and Christian Coalition leader Beverly Russell admitted to an incestuous relationship with his step daughter.
* Republican Judge Ronald C. Kline was placed under house arrest for child molestation and possession of child pornography.
* Republican congressman and anti-gay activist Robert Bauman was charged with having sex with a 16-year-old boy he picked up at a gay bar.
July 11th, 2006 at 9:36 pm- Cool Breeze:
You beat me to it, and I'm glad you did, because you said it better than I would have.
Nice.
July 11th, 2006 at 9:36 pmCool breeze, while I agree with you on illegal immigration, joe lieberman is a completely different story.
The issue, is that he consistently votes conservative on every liberal issue, from reproductive rights, and yes, to the illegal "war" in Iraq. Republicans, when not happy with their representation, haver every right to force out someone who does not represent their platform. you're grasping at straws with the lieberman thing; sorry.
Besides, from what I've seen, it's the rabid neo-cons who immediately swift-boat, and deride other cons who utter even the slightest disagreement with status quo.
July 11th, 2006 at 9:37 pmCool Breeze-
Damn. That was an impressive list you published. But really, don't you think I could come up with a list just as long of Dems who have committed disgusting crimes such as those you list?
July 11th, 2006 at 9:37 pmCoolBreeze,
Awesome post. I guess the point some here would make is that we should be glad all these assholes are at least "documented" or some crap like that.
July 11th, 2006 at 9:38 pmYou are right. I was grammatically incorrect. I apologize. The failing public schools I went to are no doubt to blame. I sure wish I had, say, school vouchers when I was a kid.
Comment by ThinkProgress=ThinkStupid — July 11, 2006 @ 9:35 pm
Uh. I wish yer mom had say, a clothes hanger when you...oh, never mind--yer tin hat just hit the floor. Asswipe
July 11th, 2006 at 9:38 pmTP/TS: "...don’t you think I could come up with a list just as long of Dems who have committed disgusting crimes such as those you list?" - - Knock yourself out. No, really, knock yourself out.
July 11th, 2006 at 9:40 pmBut really, don’t you think I could come up with a list just as long of Dems who have committed disgusting crimes such as those you list?-TP=TS
No, I'm willing to bet you can't actually. Any other takers?
(I'm thinking at least he'll spend some time away from here spinning his wheels).
July 11th, 2006 at 9:40 pmHow about the latest domestic terrorist? You know, the rightwing Townhouse Terrorist in NYC. Yep! He was a right winger alright. He hates George Soros and Hillary Clinton and FDR and whines about "political correctness" in his dopey assed suicide letter.
Why are rightwingers so violent? What is it that makes them want to kill Americans?
-GSD
July 11th, 2006 at 9:41 pmBut really, don’t you think I could come up with a list just as long of Dems who have committed disgusting crimes such as those you list?-TP=TS
The progressive movement is one to clean out pedophiles and corrupt politicians! BOTH SIDES!!!
And as long as you are fighting to win their elections for them you are not helping US!!
July 11th, 2006 at 9:44 pmTP=TS - if you and Savage are right, I plan to cause some infections very soon... and remember, there is no cure for HIV...
July 11th, 2006 at 9:44 pmThe new Pentagon policy will clear Gitmo real fast. That's so they can move them to CIA prisons in order to pluck out their eyeballs or whatever. That isn't some wonderful announcement, it's called finally following international law. Didn't we purportedly invade Iraq over international law?
http://www.sunstateactivist.org/ssablog.php
Can someone please give SSA the home address and phone number of David Horowitz? To see why, go to SSA Blog.
Plus, analysis Bush administration "end of torture" announcement.
July 11th, 2006 at 9:45 pmhttp://www.sunstateactivist.org/ssablog.php
The issue, is that he consistently votes conservative on every liberal issue, from reproductive rights, and yes, to the illegal “war†in Iraq. Republicans, when not happy with their representation, haver every right to force out someone who does not represent their platform. you’re grasping at straws with the lieberman thing; sorry.-Destardi
Destardi, I was under this impression as well. Check out this article by Yglesias:
http://www.prospect.org/web/page.ww?section=root&name=ViewPrint&articleId=9348
Now, I'll grant you, much of what he's said and done of late has made no sense whatsoever. When he did that interview with Larry King after an Iraq visit, I thought he was drunk on Karl Rove's cool aid.
July 11th, 2006 at 9:46 pmOkay, Gary, I tried to explain it to you in the budget deficit thread earlier today, but I guess you just don't know how to read a graph. Also, Bush's own Treasury officials, including the Secretary, disagree with you.
Looks like you can't be helped, buddy.
July 11th, 2006 at 9:47 pmBut really, don’t you think I could come up with a list just as long of Dems who have committed disgusting crimes such as those you list?-TP=TS
I seriously hope someone trys to, I would post it just as quickly and I would pass it around =)
July 11th, 2006 at 9:47 pmRepublican Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld authorized the rape of children in Iraqi prisons in order to humiliate their parents into providing information about the anti-American insurgency. See excerpt of one prisoner’s report here and his full report here. - Cool Breeze
I was wondering about the veracity of the list you published here, and now with this last posting, I know it is crap. Donald Rumsfeld ordering the rape of Iraqi children is completely ridiculous. Hell, it is LIBELOUS. When you post obvious falsehoods like this, you only discredit yourself. I was actually impressed by that huge list you published, but now I realize most of it is probably crap.
July 11th, 2006 at 9:48 pmI was actually impressed by that huge list you published, but now I realize most of it is probably crap.-TP=TS
Translation: I can't find a similar list for Dems.
July 11th, 2006 at 9:50 pm#47 -
I wouldn't be a dutiful "troll" if I didn't point out Clinton first instituted them. Really, he did.
coolbreeze - From your posts, it seems that a necessary precondition for pedophilia is a conservative mind. Or at least a Republican self-identification. You would forward that list onto Keith Olberman.
July 11th, 2006 at 9:50 pmbe my guest look em up...
July 11th, 2006 at 9:50 pmhe disagrees with mainstream liberalism on one point (Iraq War), and he gets completely dissed. It is a liberal inquisition on poor Joe.
Comment by ThinkProgress=ThinkStupid
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So the Iraq invasion is just a "point" in your geo-political calculus?
And I thought it was about the deaths of tens of thousands.
July 11th, 2006 at 9:52 pm.
"liberal inquisition"?Poor Joe was tortured to death?
TP=TS (by the way, anything you can do about that moniker?) -
It's not as though cool breeze actually compiled the list himself. It's re-posted all across the internet.
It is, nonetheless, eye-opening.
July 11th, 2006 at 9:57 pm#5; Ho Chi Minh is Vietnamese for 'he who enlightens'. The original died in 1969. I hope to enlighten the ignorant tin-soldier mindless no questioning trolls who post here. Perhaps I should post myself as Ho Chi Minh II.
July 11th, 2006 at 9:58 pmChase-
Yes, the list is very eye-opening. I don't know where CB got it, but I'm thinking some right-wing propaganda site is probably compiling such a list, composed of Democrats, as we speak.
July 11th, 2006 at 10:00 pmDrSinker-
You undoubtably are a fool if you think there are not just as many Democrat pedarist politicians out there.
July 11th, 2006 at 10:03 pmIt’s not as though cool breeze actually compiled the list himself. It’s re-posted all across the internet.
It is, nonetheless, eye-opening.
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never said I compiled it =)
BTW I don't much have much of an opinion on the ACLU, I have never used their service=)
THE NMBLA, however, needs to be kicked straight to hell.
July 11th, 2006 at 10:05 pmYou undoubtably are a fool if you think there are not just as many Democrat pedarist politicians out there.
If it's so obvious, why can't you post the list? Do some homework and do all your nutjob "conservative" buds a big favor for years of trolling to come.
July 11th, 2006 at 10:05 pmI think the progressive movement is like the Herpes virus combined with mental retardation and the running shits all combined into one neat little package.
Commented moonbat patrol as she voted for pedophiles, corruption, prostitutes and limos...
July 11th, 2006 at 10:07 pmYou undoubtably are a fool if you think there are not just as many Democrat pedarist politicians out there.
then lets dig it out, jeebuscripesomighty
July 11th, 2006 at 10:08 pmDrSinker-
If I had the time, I would compile a list. Unfortunately, I have a job, a wife, a mortuage, two car payments, and a Harley payment. NO TIME. (She happens to be at work tonight, so I have a little time tonight to "troll".
July 11th, 2006 at 10:10 pmCommented moonbat patrol as she voted for pedophiles, corruption, prostitutes and limos…
Comment by Cool Breeze
Yes, you are right. There are STILL some Kennedys out there to vote for!
July 11th, 2006 at 10:14 pmIf I had the time, I would compile a list. Unfortunately, I have a job, a wife, a mortuage, two car payments, and a Harley payment. NO TIME.-TP=TS
Well, now you're making my life difficult. The fact that you have a Harley means you have some modicum of coolness. Crap.
Anyway...
I trust your job does not require you to spell. It's mortgage.
Use your free time away from your wife wisely. Compile the list. Stop trolling. Do all your buds a favor.
And Jesus, ease up on all the loans.
July 11th, 2006 at 10:16 pmSavage spends more time thinking about cocks than most chicken farmers. He loves thinking about AIDS and gays, and anal sex and sodomites. It is obvious that it rules his life, he is obessessed with gays and sodomy and wieners.
-GSD
July 11th, 2006 at 10:16 pmThere's not a bad All-Star game on, for those of you interested in these kind of things. Of course, you have to listen to that jackass McCarver.
July 11th, 2006 at 10:19 pmDrSinker-
I know. Too much debt. I read the book Financial Peace by Ramsey, swore up and down to espouse the ideals in the book........... and went out and bought a Harley. Well, at least I don't have any credit-card debt.
Anyway, seriously, I have no time to make the list. Being that the list posted here seems to be new, I'm sure a rebuttal list is being created by some right-wing fanatic such as myself. I'm sure we'll see something like it soon on this blog.
July 11th, 2006 at 10:22 pmDrSinker-
Sorry, but I find baseball to be about as exciting as World Cup Soccer. Bring on football, already!
July 11th, 2006 at 10:24 pmOn Fox News' Your World with Neil Cavuto, Jonathan Hoenig, managing member of Capitalistpig Asset Management LLC, asserted that a pre-emptive attack on North Korea would cause "the market" to rise. "I would love to see us launch a pre-emptive attack on North Korea," Hoenig stated.
http://mediamatters.org/items/200607110003
WTF...attack another country..get soldiers killed and wounded some seriously...just so the stock market would rise?
This foole needs to sign up go to boot camp and volunteer for service in Iraq...and then see if that is worth a tempory bounce in the stock market..
Wonder why faux news keeps having him back..they must approve of what he says...
July 11th, 2006 at 10:24 pmA Treasury Department analysis “presented in the Mid-Session Review itself confirms what outside experts have consistently said - tax cuts do not come remotely close to paying for themselves.â€
Ok so now what, do you think the Pres will listen?
Conservatives are outraged that a strict new immigration bill in Colorado still allows children of undocumented immigrants to receive public assistance like food and healthcare: “We’re helping create the next generation of terrorists,†said Rep. Debbie Stafford, R-Aurora.
Dont you think refusing to provide basic care to children would piss off people to perform acts of terrorism? Yea I can see it now, little dying kids on the streets of America.
Spencer Ackerman on the Pentagon’s claim that U.S. military detainees are now protected by the Geneva Conventions: “The very obvious loophole is what will happen to detainees outside of U.S. military custody — as in CIA custody, such as the so-called ‘black sites,’ where Geneva is a sick joke.â€
Is is a sick joke to come out at this point and say the Geneva convention will now be followed?
Michael Savage: “Liberalism is, in essence, the HIV virus.â€
Some think the HIV virus was "created" to get rid of liberals.
There is as much wind power potential off our coasts “as the current capacity of all power plants in the United States combined,†according to a new report sponsored by the U.S. Department of Energy, Massachusetts Technology Collaborative, and General Electric.
Wow big wind turbines off shore in the ocean
“Don’t believe Social Security phase-out is coming down the pike again next year?†Read this.
I am saving my reciepts and will ask for my money back, maybe a class action suit.
And finally: Watch incredible video from a camera attached to an Orbiter Shuttle rocket booster — both the ascent and descent (complete with parachute ocean landing) are caught on tape.
The shuttle is the equivalent of driving a 57 Chevy, time for a new vehicle
July 11th, 2006 at 10:25 pmI am saving my reciepts and will ask for my money back, maybe a class action suit. - Comment by For Truth
That is a hell of an idea. Do you know a good lawyer, because I'll sign up. Social Insecurity is for suckers. Be smart, everyone. Create a Roth IRA.
July 11th, 2006 at 10:29 pmLets make it really fair - raise the inheritance tax for all estates of more than $100,000.00 (factor in inflation here) per heir (spouse, lover (up to two and of the opposite gender), child or adoptee) to 100% of the remainder and lower the personal income tax to zero. Spouses would be provided an income of 1/30 of the residual funds (which would be invested in federal bonds) for life and be allowed to reside in the family residence, no vacation homes allowed. That way, anyone who cares about how they live and excels will bask on their own achievements and the kids will have to make do for their selves. The real property passed on to government will be leased out to people at fair housing rates. Social programs would be financed by the income from estates and residual cash and investments. This would transfer the tax on the living to a tax on the dead (who would be less likely to complain).
July 11th, 2006 at 10:33 pmSavage is right about the AIDS/liberal analogy and I would add to it that i think the progressive movement is like the Herpes virus combined with mental retardation and the running shits all combined into one neat little package.
Comment by moonbat patrol
Why don't you grow up, dipshit.
If I had the time, I would compile a list. Unfortunately, I have a job, a wife, a mortuage, two car payments, and a Harley payment. NO TIME. (She happens to be at work tonight, so I have a little time tonight to “trollâ€.
Comment by ThinkProgress=ThinkStupid
Hey Think Stupid, if you find a little time, perhaps you ought to go over your spelling.
July 11th, 2006 at 10:33 pmGod loves the compassionate conservatives like Debbie Stafford. Yes, let those kids who live with their illegal immigrant parents get sick, and maybe they'll die and their parents will learn a lesson. Or if the kid falls and breaks an arm, just let them live with it, young bones knit quickly. After all anyone with brown skin is a potential terrorist - Mexican, Arab, Iraqi, no matter We must be vigilant. We can't afford to spend any money on a sick or injured kid, much less teach them anything, like perhaps, maybe English, not while we're spending $1 billion a week in Iraq. Those bombs are expensive. Gotta build that embassy that will be able to be seen from outer space. And those military bases - we need that secure foothold in the middle east. We need those tax cuts too, we can't spend money on poor kids. Who do they think they are?
July 11th, 2006 at 10:33 pmYes, priorities are in order in the Republican party - and when they go to church on Sunday they tell each other how much God assuredly loves them.
Clif,
That big eared twit, Hoenig, said the exact smae thing about Iran. He is just an armchair warmonger with no concept of reality or humanity.
-GSD
July 11th, 2006 at 10:34 pmBut the reichwingnuts here will back the idiot up and keep watching Faux news thinking they're never wrong even when some idiot suggests starting a war just to raise the stock market because Bush's policies can't get it above the level Clinton's policies got it to.......suck on that twits
July 11th, 2006 at 10:38 pm""We will complete the mission and I will make my judgments as to the troop levels necessary to achieve victory, not based upon political polls or focus groups, but based upon the measured judgment of our commanders on the ground . . . Make no mistake about it, there is a group in the opposition party who are willing to retreat before the mission is done . . . They are willing to wave the white flag of surrender and if they succeed the United States will be worse off, and the world will be worse off . . . We've got a plan to succeed, a plan for victory, a plan that will enable a new ally in the war on terror to govern itself, sustain itself and defend itself . . ."
- George W. Bush, June 28, 2006
Too bad neither Iraq or Afghanistan resemble his rhetoric, nor do the facts on the ground...Iraq decending deeper and deeper into a civil war...and Afghanistan well this is the situation;
The Karzai government is so worried about the deteriorating security situation that it is allowing local Afghan commanders to re-create militias, even though it was popular anger over child abductions and extortion by these private armies that first led to the emergence of the Taliban a decade ago.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2092-2261727_2,00.html
Thus Karzai is reduced to turning to the same thugs that the people of Afghanistan originally turned to the Taliban to oust...could this be history repeating itself...but with the US playing the role of the Soviets?
July 11th, 2006 at 10:41 pmThinkProgress=ThinkStupid ...I bet some of my ancestors met the boat when yours were immigrants. I think all of your family should be deported. The American Indians are the only ones that have a right to bitch about illegal aliens. And that includes you dipshit.
July 11th, 2006 at 10:42 pmThe situation in Afghanistan is getting worse by the day:
More alarmingly, the Taliban are no longer just in the south but have even moved into the province of Logar, 25 miles from Kabul. Among their Afghan victims they particularly target police and their relatives as well as guards, road builders and interpreters for western contractors. About 1,500 Afghans were killed by the Taliban last year; 400 have died this year.
Last week an Afghan friend travelling from Kandahar to Kabul on a bus was shocked when a bearded passenger got up, walked to the front and replaced the music cassette that had been playing with a tape of Taliban chanting: “For the next 2½ hours we all sat listening to this terrible stuff and nobody said a word. Two years ago that would have been unthinkable.â€
So confident are the Taliban that leaders of the once secretive group have started giving interviews on Afghanistan’s new US-funded Tolo television station. This prompted Karzai last month to impose reporting restrictions that he was forced to rescind by the international community, which felt “censorship†did not sit well with attempts to showcase Afghanistan as a liberal democracy.
“People are scared when they see the Taliban on TV,†said Jamil Karzai, MP for Kabul and a nephew of the president. “Every day I get constituents coming and asking: what does this mean, are the Taliban coming back? We could never have imagined we would get in a situation where such a thing was conceivable.â€
And a British commander in Afghanistan says this;
“We need to realise that we could actually fail here,†warns Lieutenant-General David Richards, British commander of the Nato-led peacekeeping force. “Think of the psychological victory for Bin Laden and his ilk if we failed and the Taliban came back. Within months we’d suffer terror attacks in the UK. I think of my own daughters in London and the risk they would be in.â€
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2092-2261727_1,00.html
July 11th, 2006 at 10:43 pmRemember the taliban does not need to beat us on the battle field...they have to repeat what they did in the 80';s..hang on long enough for the Government of the US to feel it is no longer politically expediant to keep up the fight...the same thing the Viet Cong did in Vietnam...they did not win battles...but were still there when we left...
And Afghanistan is one war we can not afford to lose...thus bush needs to refocus..on the one military objective he should have been focused on all along
July 11th, 2006 at 10:45 pm#102 - My post,
July 11th, 2006 at 10:46 pmI forgot to include limits on the Gift Tax. I figure a limit of $2000.00 year would be apt unless paid directly into funds directed towards an institution of higher learning for an heir's education.
TP = TS; I would GLADLY vote for Kennedy.
July 11th, 2006 at 10:48 pmI'll even bet TP-TS is one of those Harley riders who trailers his ride to a couple of miles outside of Daytona or Sturgis then he "rides in".
July 11th, 2006 at 10:55 pmI would like to give Left Coast Mike an honerable mention for his post in #108. His piece captures the essence of the moment, while at the same time wrapping the big picture around your head. I agree TP=TS is acting like a peice of poo.
July 11th, 2006 at 10:56 pmNice to see you puttin' those fellow right wingers in their place, Joe!
Ain't they somethin' tonight?
July 11th, 2006 at 10:56 pmMichael Savage: “Liberalism is, in essence, the HIV virus.â€
Correct me if I'm wrong, but even this loose cannon is not all bad. The Wikipedia site notes some interesting things about him.
I mean, Moon Bat Patrol ignors what Savage calls some fellow show hosts. Like Rush Limbaugh, whom he has called "Hush Bimbo," and Sean Hannity who he calls "Pawn Vanity," for what he views as their blind support of the Republican Party and President George W. Bush. Savage calls Bill O'Reilly the "Lepre-con" and "Loofa-Man" in reference to O'Reilly's sexual harassment scandal.
Savage also notes that President Bush and most neo-conservatives in government and elsewhere in talk radio are basically an outgrowth of the big-government, liberal Rockefeller-wing of the Republican Party, or "checked-pants, country club Republicans."
July 11th, 2006 at 11:03 pmThanks For Truth That is the way I feel about it. Most every one in this country has an ancestor that was an immigrant at one time. Evetyone coming to this country is looking for a better life for their family, who has the right to say that is wrong. As long as they live by the laws as established, (unlike or presinutt) they should have a chance to become a citizen whithin a given amount of time.
July 11th, 2006 at 11:13 pmlike a major freeper invasion today....
July 11th, 2006 at 11:21 pmSavage also notes that President Bush and most neo-conservatives in government and elsewhere in talk radio are basically an outgrowth of the big-government, liberal Rockefeller-wing of the Republican Party, or “checked-pants, country club Republicans.â€
A conservative government is an organized hypocrisy
July 11th, 2006 at 11:25 pm--Benjamin Disrael
I went to the blog that discussed the Colorado Immigration bill. There are some very callous and stupid people talking out there.
July 11th, 2006 at 11:25 pmCharity and kindness and love of humanity aside, their are practical reasons to be nice . Do the stupid people want civil unrest? Do they think that people are going to peacefully watch their children or themselves become sick and hungry? I am a rather peaceful person but I would take up bank robbery and burglary first..
You beat me to it, and I’m glad you did, because you said it better than I would have.
Nice.
Comment by TripMaster Monkey — July 11, 2006 @ 9:36 pm
sorry didn't notice this earlier with the all the freepers.
July 11th, 2006 at 11:30 pmThanxx.
"Anyway, seriously, I have no time to make the list. Being that the list posted here seems to be new, I’m sure a rebuttal list is being created by some right-wing fanatic such as myself. I’m sure we’ll see something like it soon on this blog."
Do let us know whent that list is completed, Mr. Stupid. I'm sure you're on a tight schedule, so tight that you can't spellcheck - you did, after all, waste all your time trolling here instead of using Google to look up a name or two for us.
July 11th, 2006 at 11:32 pmYou undoubtably are a fool if you think there are not just as many Democrat pedarist politicians out there.
Comment by ThinkProgress=ThinkStupid — July 11, 2006 @ 10:03 pm
Translation: I have to eat my own words for being such a major asshole.
July 11th, 2006 at 11:34 pmYou are right. Since Reagan, asshole.
July 11th, 2006 at 11:39 pmAllright, Joe!!
You treated me to one of your "correct me" quotes!!!
My day is complete!
July 11th, 2006 at 11:41 pmJuan,
we DO seem to have a major troll on our hands!
it really isn't very smart one,though, as you have just pointed out.
Big and Dumb.
I guess that's how the Repug's like them.....
(and I'll keep my feminist remark to what I just wrote to myself!)
July 11th, 2006 at 11:45 pm"Anyway, seriously, I have no time to make the list. Being that the list posted here seems to be new, I’m sure a rebuttal list is being created by some right-wing fanatic such as myself. I’m sure we’ll see something like it soon on this blog."
I've been reading all the comments, and I must say that I'm a bit dissapointed that I won't get to see THE list of Dems who have commited atrocities. Do let us know when your fellow wingnuts complete that list, Mr. Stupid. I'm sure you're on a tight schedule. But seriously, I thought you said that YOU could come up with a list.
"Damn. That was an impressive list you published. But really, don’t you think I could come up with a list just as long of Dems who have committed disgusting crimes such as those you list?"
Typical wingnut troll. Never thinking ahead.
July 11th, 2006 at 11:46 pmWell, the All Star Game is over. The AL won, 3-2. Earlier today, I'd suspended political blogging for the day in honor of the All Star Game and talked about baseball. If you're a baseball fan, there may something in there for you.
July 12th, 2006 at 12:00 amI decided to put up Mo Do's latest a day early. I'm glad to announce that she's finally gotten that fluff piece phase out of her system and is taking on the administration again.
July 12th, 2006 at 12:31 am#37 re: Joe Libermann: "The man has dedicated his life to the Democrats and Liberalism, and he being completly ostracized by liberals just because he supports the war in Iraq"
EXACTLY, ThinkProgress=ThinkStupid., EXACTLY!
July 12th, 2006 at 12:37 amoh my! the daily show was great, as usual... not enough time with john dean, but very informative... one good point: it's "proto-fascist...we're not there yet"... YET...
but colbert was hilarious! all about "what's the matter with kids these days" (something like that)... very funny stuff... interview with tony hawk... sitting on bean bags... i'm not sure if i should repeat the underwear joke...
and letterman's Top 10 is "Chapter titles for GWBs memoirs"... not as funny as it could have been, but still a hoot...
that's all for me... g'nite...
July 12th, 2006 at 12:40 amOh, shut it. I want fossil fuels even in my breakfast!
July 12th, 2006 at 12:43 amit really isn’t very smart one,though, as you have just pointed out.
Big and Dumb.
Comment by trueblue — July 11, 2006 @ 11:45 pm
At first he was rambling attacks but when Cool Breeze posted the shameful Republican list of child molesters and rapers, he just lowered his voice to a "I bet the Dem list is being done at this very moment" whisper. I mean, I dont have anything against stupid people (I sometimes consider myself one of them) but to be a supporter of child rapers (including some marines) and of civilian murderers...well, thats not stupid, thats criminal.
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July 12th, 2006 at 9:08 amMichael Savage is an agent of the Mossad
July 12th, 2006 at 9:26 amFunny Juan, P.H. phunny....LMAO
July 12th, 2006 at 3:34 pmShit there must be a lot of bridges without their trolls today.
July 12th, 2006 at 4:48 pmTP=TS...
Here is a start... I have found several already...
http://www.boycottliberalism.com/Scandals.htm
You may also try:
http://politicalgraveyard.com/special/trouble-disgrace.html
Would have finished myself but I ran out of time...
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