Christian Science Monitor Prints Attack On Global Warming Science Written by Stand-Up Comic
Christian Science Monitor Prints Attack On Global Warming Science Written by Stand-Up Comic
The Christian Science Monitor has printed an attack on Al Gore and others who take the threat of global warming seriously. The article is penned by stand-up comic Julia Gorin. An excerpt:
Scared and unsure how to fight terrorists, they confront “climate change,” which only requires spending trillions of other people’s dollars on something that may not need fixing or may not be fixable. No wonder some of these people chain themselves to trees – they think money grows on them.
She’s not joking.
These are the lengths that reputable publications like the Christian Science Monitor are going to provide “balanced coverage” of the global warming issue. There is no meaningful debate within the scientific community, so scientific research is balanced by “conservative comedians.”
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Did she tell Cheney-shooting-a-guy-in-the-face jokes, too?
July 14th, 2006 at 1:53 pmClearly, a comedian is more knowlegable about Science than scientists who get paid to do real research.
July 14th, 2006 at 1:54 pmConservative comedian – isn’t that an oxymoron?
July 14th, 2006 at 1:58 pmNo wonder I’ve never heard of her – she’s not funny.
July 14th, 2006 at 1:58 pmConservatives are not funny. The reason? Speaking to power can be funny. Speaking for power is never funny.
July 14th, 2006 at 1:59 pmconservative comedy? Oxymoron. Religious right rock and roll? Oxymoron.
July 14th, 2006 at 2:00 pmObviously spending a trillion tax-payer dollars on a REAL threat is less important than creating a threat out of thin air and spending the same amount of money. I guess that is just the conservative pregorative.
July 14th, 2006 at 2:01 pmThe headline is misleading. I thought from the headline that the Christian Science Monitor was attacking a comedian, who wrote a global warming joke, as a sort of straw(wo)man attack. “Christian Science Monitor Prints Attack On Global Warming Science Written by Stand-Up Comic”
July 14th, 2006 at 2:01 pmOh, I get it – this is some sort of immitation of what they think Jon Stewart and Stephen Colbert have going for them. Except , as usual, they miss the point entirely and think it’s just about comedy – and not about deeply biting satire based on reality…
July 14th, 2006 at 2:02 pmActually, Carrot Top just performed a double bypass on me and I let Pauly Shore do my tax returns.
I am trying to get Larry the Cable Guy to build me a rocket too.
-GSD
P.S. I am sure he act is replete with “fresh” jokes about Bill Clinton and blowjobs.
July 14th, 2006 at 2:02 pmconservative comedy? Oxymoron. Religious right rock and roll? Oxymoron.
Comment by madashell — July 14, 2006 @ 2:00 pm
Yes….they are all eight sided idiots!!!
July 14th, 2006 at 2:02 pmWhen she was saying, “Scared and unsure how to fight terrorists” was she talking about Rumsfeld and Cheney? I think I read that the Republicans are “in charge” of fighting the war on terror and they do control the White House and Congress, so it’s likely to be their decision on whether our “trillions” are sent to Iraq or fixing our issues at home.
July 14th, 2006 at 2:03 pmThe ‘fix’ is to limit carbon dioxide emissions – pretty simple. Interestingly, however, many former global warming ‘deniers’ have now accepted that it is ‘real’ but that there is a trade-off to be made that may or may not work.
They are right: there is a trade-off to be made. The issue is how that ‘trade-off’ is constructed which determines the effects on the world economy in general. Kyoto was sensible in introducing carbon trading but very stupid in the way it has been implemented.
Specifically the biggest emitters were given carbon permits (which the EU discovered were in excess of actual emissions and the cost to emit a ton halved a month ago) rather than auctioned. The reason for the overallocation of permits was simple anyway – national governments decided who got how much and they wanted to give as much as possible.
Market solutions, in this case, are ‘right’ as long as the mechanism is effective. Of course that requires regulatory intervention as well:)
Of course, better fuel efficiency would be great and would cost little as the carmakers would bear most of the cost (which is why they are so against it not just that it might impact sales by increasing price). That’s a legislation issue although the market, in the form of high oil prices, is also ‘great’ from my environmental perspective – people drive less and switch to cars with better fuel efficiency. That sends a ’signal’ to carmakers to produce more fuel efficent cars.
Which, of course, is why I don’t like seeing a $78/b.o. headline with a negative implication followed by a CO2 headline. The price will recede when people start realizing that it ‘pays’ to become more fuel efficient and that’s a ‘plus’. It’s also what environmentalists want – another plus is that the high price induces Congress to find a ‘fix’ with the only real one being fuel efficiency standards.
Yah, a rant from a soul who has not commented in awhile.
July 14th, 2006 at 2:05 pmYou should hear her bit on the ‘death tax.’ You will pee yourself.
July 14th, 2006 at 2:09 pmIs that Ricky Lake
July 14th, 2006 at 2:11 pmOMG – I was wondering who she reminded me of…it is Ricky Lake
July 14th, 2006 at 2:15 pm“…something that may not need fixing or may not be fixable.”
Typical conservative argument.
Argument 1 – The science is uncertain
Actually the scientific agreement that global warming is occuring is almost universal and that human releases of greenhouse gases is the cause is accepted by the National Science Academies of eleven countries including the U.S.
The conservatives have lost argument 1 so now they move on to the next argument.
Argument 2a – It is too late to do anything about global warming
Argument 2b – It will cost a jillion dollars to fix it
It is too late to stop global warming entirely. However if we move now, it is not too late to prevent worst case scenarios from occuring. The conservatives won’t face the fact that we have no choice. We must reduce greenhouse gas emission levels to prevent catastrophic climate change. If we wait too long and if our actions are insufficient it really will be too late and/or it will cost a jillion dollars to fix.
July 14th, 2006 at 2:15 pmConservative comedian – isn’t that an oxymoron?
Comment by jules — July 14, 2006 @ 1:58 pm
Jules, when discussing conservative comics you should always add emphasis to ‘moron’
July 14th, 2006 at 2:15 pmOnly in America do people challenge the scientific method. People of faith often say “I dont agree with the science.” Hello!! That is the meaning of the scientific method, its proof!!! You have to believe in it!! If you dont, … its like saying “I dont believe 2 + 2 = 4, it equals 7!!!”
July 14th, 2006 at 2:16 pmI have come to the conclusion that “conservativism” is a mental disorder.
July 14th, 2006 at 2:20 pmMadashell, there have been two major long-term studies on people who refer to themselves as conservatives. In general, they are more fearful than average, have more nightmares than average and are more likely to accept injustice around them without concern. Modern conservatives also exhibit an inordinate desire to follow the leader and accept authority without question. But, we all know this stuff already. It’s all pretty obvious.
July 14th, 2006 at 2:27 pm“Conservative comedian – isn’t that an oxymoron?”
Perhaps, but then again, so is Female Comedian.
July 14th, 2006 at 2:32 pmI’ll agree to that bluedog… from personal experience. When I was in my mid-twenties I lived in a gated apartment complex in a very white and conservative area (Newt Gingrich territory). I was obessive compulsive about locking my apartment every night. And many nights I had nightmares about someone breaking in anyway and raping me or stealing everything.
One morning, I noticed I’d forgotten to lock the front door the night before. Instead of realizing that nothing had happened because my fear was pretty irrational, I had panic attacks about it for weeks, and more nightmares.
As a liberal, many years later, I rarely lock things. And very, very rarely have nightmares. When I do have them they are about what the neocons are doing to our planet and innocent people around the world…
July 14th, 2006 at 2:33 pmPerhaps, but then again, so is Female Comedian.
Comment by squegeeboo — July 14, 2006 @ 2:32 pm
Hasn’t seem to stop you though.
July 14th, 2006 at 2:34 pmChristian Science, the ULTIMATE oxymoron.
July 14th, 2006 at 2:38 pmIs she funny? In this article she’s A RIOT!!!
Oh, you say she’s being SERIOUS?
Well, in that case she’s certifiably INSANE!
July 14th, 2006 at 2:39 pmI dunno. Maybe its just me. I mean, she does’t LOOK very funny. More like some trailertrash skank, really.
Don’t you think so, squeeze?
July 14th, 2006 at 2:40 pmon something that may not need fixing or may not be fixable.
Coming from people of faith (theorethically), personal responsability (even more theorethically), it’s very deceiving. Are they losing faith? If so, are they heretics now, or will be in a near future?
July 14th, 2006 at 2:46 pmCaption:
July 14th, 2006 at 2:50 pm‘Before the operation by name was Julian’.
“Hasn’t seem to stop you though.”
I’m a female comedian? News to me.
“I dunno. Maybe its just me. I mean, she does’t LOOK very funny. More like some trailertrash skank, really.
Don’t you think so, squeeze? ”
Joe, sounds like you got it just about right.
July 14th, 2006 at 2:51 pmWe already know they are a joke. This just serves to reaffirm it. Righties believe they just have to say it isn’t happening and therefore it isn’t.
July 14th, 2006 at 2:51 pmI don’t understand – you mean the CSM has reduced itself to reporting a stand up routine as legitimate news, on par with news outlets?
July 14th, 2006 at 3:01 pm…”Why are these people so worried about the environment, anyway? It’s not like they’re living on this planet.”
July 14th, 2006 at 3:01 pmThis is Julia Goren.
This is conservative comedy.
Julia! The real comdey show is on Fux News,
your should watch it, you may even get some material
that makes someone laugh.
Better yet, quote the Anti-Christ; he’s always good for a laugh
Christian Science Monitor Calls Comedian to Refute Global Warming…
When you can’t get scientists to refute the data, send in the jesters….
July 14th, 2006 at 3:07 pmCrocodile Dundee would need the “special check” to know if the “it” of the picture is a “she” or mostly not…
July 14th, 2006 at 3:09 pmI’m a female comedian? News to me.
Comment by squegeeboo — July 14, 2006 @ 2:51 pm
Well certainly not a comedian… :)
July 14th, 2006 at 3:10 pmWhat the hell is wrong with these people? An all new energy policy would cut our ties to oil, produce new fuels that are not near as bad for the environment, and generate lots of jobs to support it … sounds like a money making proposition to me… trillions of other peoples money is being spent on oil intrigue, oil wars, and all the fall out from this. We could be MAKING money by creating jobs for a new energy technology sector that FREES America from the oil noose that the big oil and middle east has around our necks.
But! It is impossible!
#1 BS
July 14th, 2006 at 3:13 pm#2 If that is true then what are we going to do when the oil runs out?
#3 BS see Manhattan Project… it CAN and SHOULD be done.
Why do these people hate our children so much? Why is it they’d rather destroy our planet than do everything possible to ensure the planet will be here and be in good health for when the children, the children they claim to care so deeply about, inherit the earth? I thought the rethuglicans loved children. Love and protection of children seems to motivate their every move when it comes to wedge issues like gays raising children, and wanting to get married, but protect the planet for the kids? Not an issue. Complete insanity.
July 14th, 2006 at 3:29 pmPinky,
See the posting about the Rapture Ready forum. That will answer all of your questions. These people do not think that the Earth as we know it will exist in a short time. They think they will all be raptured outta here and the rest of us will have hell on Earth. That is why they don’t care.
July 14th, 2006 at 3:34 pm#35 – Nice shot UB, bwahahahahahaha
July 14th, 2006 at 3:39 pmThis is so very sad. It’s painful to experience this woman’s routine. It’s hard enough when people who aren’t funny try to be, but when they’re really just attacking others… they seem so pathetic and small. Really, she must be an incredibly strong woman to get up every morning and keep this routine going. I know I couldn’t do it. I couldn’t look myself in the mirror and not break down sobbing. I feel really bad for her… she just must have nothing more to give the world than to sacrafice her own integrity. Just sad.
July 14th, 2006 at 3:49 pmI cannot believe that Jill Carroll writes for these assclowns.
July 14th, 2006 at 3:56 pm” spending trillions of other people’s dollars on something that may not need fixing or may not be fixable ”
hmm, Iraq anyone?
July 14th, 2006 at 4:04 pmOne point that seems to get lost in the rhetoric about climate is that the high pollution levels, just like cigarettes, reduce one’s mental reasoning ability by more than 5%. That seems to be substantiated by many of the non-scientifics who don’t understand the problem orperhaps just haven’t been outside in the last 50 years. Oh well!
July 14th, 2006 at 4:26 pmYou mean the neocon’s would rather fix something in Iraq that don’t need fixing and can’t be fixed and spend a trillion dollars with 2500 deaths, 8000 disabilitys and hated around the world rather than spending a trillion dollars on the envirment. she’s not a commedian she’s an idiot.
July 14th, 2006 at 4:31 pmhmm, Iraq anyone?
Comment by Jason — July 14, 2006 @ 4:04 pm
I’ve found you can also apply the same principal to any of Bush’s State of the Union Addresses wherein he gives excellent examples against himself and the actions of his corrupt regime…
July 14th, 2006 at 4:32 pmSigh. Even though she’s not super qualified as a source for the CSM or anything–she does make an interetsing point: It’s going to cost trillions to “fix” global warming. You know what? It is going to cost trillions. Believe it or not, this does not make the problem go away, Conservative America! Talking about how much it’s going to cost is not a reason to not do something about this–especially if waiting is just going to make it cost more. Suppose I have a tumor or something. That costs like $14,000 to treat! Why would I EVER DO THIS? Oh yeah, because it will KILL ME IF I DON’T.
July 14th, 2006 at 4:32 pmI wouldn’t bang her with a dildo from Gallaghers box of toys.
-GSD
July 14th, 2006 at 4:33 pmNice shot UB, bwahahahahahaha
Comment by Quadrajet — July 14, 2006 @ 3:39 pm
Surely he didn’t think I was gonna let him get away with his first comment, did he? :)
July 14th, 2006 at 4:34 pmGorin’s conclusion was very telling of her ideology: “…we shouldn’t worry about the distant future.”
July 14th, 2006 at 4:45 pmFunny,to a self-identified conservative, is pretending to look under a table for WMDs that were not found–the stated reason for an invasion that killed many thousands.
Well,he did get big laughs…from other conservatives.
Homicide humor.
July 14th, 2006 at 4:58 pmTo GSD – If you take Gallagher as seriously as you do Julia Gorin, I think maybe you would.
July 14th, 2006 at 5:02 pm[...] UPDATE: In order to be fair and balanced… a comedian. Stay tuned for Gallagher’s take on NAFTA. [...]
July 14th, 2006 at 5:03 pmConservative comedian? That’s way too many syllables. How about “Hack”?
July 14th, 2006 at 5:05 pm#39 — Ah, I see, they want to destroy the planet so that when JAYzuhz takes them to their great reward for being such very good “christians,” they can leave knowing they’ve left a “hell” of a place for all us sinners/heathens to spend the rest of our miserable lives. Wow. What in the world would Gawd think of that? What a bunch of ignorant fools.
July 14th, 2006 at 5:09 pmThat bitch will never work again (assuming “she” ever did). Forget heckling this sex change gone wrong, just make sure she never again has a stage on which to practice her “comedy.” Enjoy retirement, hag.
July 14th, 2006 at 5:17 pmI don’t understand why these media outlets are somehow required to print opinion pieces to try and discredit scientific fact, when global warming is just that: scientific fact.
There’s no reason. It’s a waste of space and time and resources. I mean, if it’s that important to work overtime to print material (or have pundits or lobbyists who parade as “experts” on cable news channels), they might as well consult with a bunch of 8-year-olds to give their opinions on global warming, because the results would be almost the exact same.
July 14th, 2006 at 5:19 pmConservative comedians. Hmm. Ben Stein — zzzzzzz; Dennis Miller — whatever happened to him anyway? Drew Carey – never was and never will be funny. Hitting down is just mean spirited – hitting up can be funny.
July 14th, 2006 at 5:57 pmA Conservative Comedian? Yeah, that worked for Dennis Miller. lmao. I think she took one of Cheney’s gun blasts to the face.
July 14th, 2006 at 6:01 pmDennis Miller is a fool. He’ll go down with this administration. Good riddance to him.
July 14th, 2006 at 6:06 pmEnvironmental solutions are not so much about money as they are about changing behavior. The world needs less people, less gluttony and less useless crap.
July 14th, 2006 at 6:13 pmI am really quite surprised at the CSM. I expected higher standards for them. Higher = legitimate.
July 14th, 2006 at 6:17 pm“…we shouldn’t worry about the distant future.”
Sounds like a true conservative to me. What do these people expect to do once oil runs out of supply?
July 14th, 2006 at 6:26 pm#1 – “Did she tell Cheney-shooting-a-guy-in-the-face jokes, too?” -Comment by Above the Clouds
******No, Pie in the Sky, the Cheney- hunting jokes were told here at TP, Daily Kos C&L, etc.
#61 – “Environmental solutions are not so much about money as they are about changing behavior. The world needs less people, less gluttony and less useless crap.”
July 14th, 2006 at 6:31 pmComment by Scott
*******Gee, Scott, thank you for “identifying the problem” – now how about a few suggestions to achieve “less people, less gluttony and less useless crap”. Your so-called solutions would end up being the PROBLEM….
Mighty Aphro, here’s a partial solution to the problem of “useless crap” and air pollution: you shut up.
July 14th, 2006 at 6:47 pmJulia Goren should STFU and sing.
July 14th, 2006 at 7:08 pmOnly pundits are allowed political commentary.
Who is Julia Gorin? And why should I care what she thinks about something she knows nothing about? It’s not a political issue, global warming, it’s a reality issue. As in it’s happening but some choose to stick their heads in the sand.
July 14th, 2006 at 7:25 pm#64 — The mighty windbag is back spewing her nonsense. Crawl back into the sewer you slithered out of. Your hate of the United States and its good people is palatable, and it tastes like s**t. Go away now. Don’t you have a thriving career, 4 gorgeous children, and a handsome husband to take care of, you know, the one who served in the military with you. You’re such a joke.
July 14th, 2006 at 7:32 pmDear Bluedawg – I think the “useless crap” referred to by Scott the Sophmoric Moron, is “unbridled consumerism” of a wanton capitalist society. Funny thing – ALL the people I have ever heard bashing business or profit fit into the following categories:
July 14th, 2006 at 7:32 pma.) public employees and bureaucrats
b.) students with umbilical cords attached to Mom and Dad
c.) the chronically unemployed or never-employed….
***Irony ALERT**** Progs who are upset on another thread that prog journalists are being credentialed for the YAF meeting are the same type who tell others to “shut up” – not a very tolerant attitude. I LOVE to hear what the political opposition have to say – and I encourage them to shout it from the roof-tops – they seem to illustrate the lunacy we find so engaging and funny….
You need to broaden your scope. I run a small business and am a dedicated capitalist. I don’t bash business or profit — that’s your strawman. I bash the inordinate amount of political power large corporations have today in our society. It’s not capitalism, it’s corporatism. You, as a modern conservative, blissfully stare off into space, strangely blind to the effect of corporate power.
July 14th, 2006 at 7:43 pmIRONY ALERT, MIGHTY WINDBAG STYLE: the name caller who routinely labels people here “morans” (among other things) is now looking for tolerance! HA HA HA HA HA! Yes, progressives are supposed to be tolerant of you and how you and your ilk are ruining the country, while you and your crowd are completely intolerant and in fact preach intolerance 100% of the time. Your kind will not be tolerated any longer simply because your outdated views and hate of the people of this world is intolerable.
July 14th, 2006 at 7:45 pmWhat you mean is octomorons, oxymorons are hyperventilating morons.
July 14th, 2006 at 8:00 pmWho is Ms. Gorin? Just check out her site. She gives Pammy over at Atlas Shrugged a real run for her money. What a bozo.
July 14th, 2006 at 8:04 pmIs that a fur collar on whatever it is she is wearing?
July 14th, 2006 at 9:59 pmMaybe she is really in the employ of the furtrappers up north who see their industry going down in flames….
Pretty typical of bottom of the barrel showbiz types to try to get a laugh and a buck wherever they can, whether its a low rent dive, fox network, talk radio, the white house……….
Pinky = unbelievable.
July 15th, 2006 at 2:50 amConservative comedy is alive and well, but its purpose is inverted. Instead of afflicting the comfortable, it mocks poor folks and attempts to make fools of the rubes that usually vote for people like George Bush. Not that much different from other dirty tricks played by corrupt conservatives. It’s dishonest, and the joke’s on you.
In Julia Gorin’s opinion piece, the real humor is in the setup: commentary on a complex scientific phenomenon being offered by a comedian. What, not a scientist? Sorry, couldn’t find any that would offer such nonsense to defend the status quo.
From the excerpt we get a regal whiff of the basic strategy of her attack, which hinges on the assertion that the rhetoric of war being used by people concerned about climate change is just a cheap trick to divert attention from…uh, Bushco’s very expensive trick to divert our attention.
Perhaps Gorin would kindly suggest what rhetoric is appropriate for a life-and-death struggle for our species’ survival? Baseball? Well, it’s the seventh inning, and the home team’s behind by about a thousand runs. Football? We’ve got third down, 900 yards to go. Golf? Sorry, not enough rain for golf.
On the other hand, future comedians may regard Julia Gorin as “Saint Julia,” because if she persuades us to do nothing about global warming, future generations of comedians will have an endless supply of material on desertification, starvation, possibly even a new ice age.
That’s some funny shit, Juilia!
July 15th, 2006 at 3:38 amI wrote to the Christian Science Monitor’s editor about this:
Your newspaper recently printed an attack on Al Gore and others, like myself, who take the threat of global warming seriously. The article was written by stand-up comic Julia Gorin. Your decision to print such a misleading and stupid non-sense article is disgraceful and irresponsible. You and your organization ought to feel ashamed. You obviously have no idea what you are doing.
You might print articles joking about the next major weather tragedy in New Orleans or the next tsunami or earthquake, but that would equally be in bad taste.
A better idea would be for you to provide your staff with tickets to see the movie “An Inconvenient Truth.” I have taken the time to watch the movie and it’s not a laughing matter. We should ALL be working diligently to resolve and prevent the approaching crisis, not make jokes about it. This is an issue that concerns all of us, whether we choose to pull our heads out of the sand or not.
I wonder did someone pay the Christian Science Monitor to promote moral idiocy? If so, I would hope that you would return the tainted Judas funds and correct your error in judgement, for the sake of mankind and our common good.
Sincerely,
July 15th, 2006 at 5:26 amPinky = unbelievable.
Comment by troll alert — July 15, 2006 @ 2:50 am
Wrong.
Progressives arguing progressive points on a progressive blog are not trolls.
July 15th, 2006 at 7:42 amScared and unsure how to fight terrorists, bring it on Bush confronts “freedom,†which only requires spending trillions of other people’s dollars, and tens of thousands of other peoples lives on something that may not be fixable.
July 15th, 2006 at 10:34 amFrom Ms. Gorin’s bio:
She performed for delegates to the 2004
Republican Convention at Times Square’s Laugh
Factory and landed in both Newsweek’s and Cindy
Adams’ gossip columns. (CNN.com, meanwhile,
reported on a bomb threat that the club received for
hosting a group of Republican comics.)
The only bombing that night was by the performers onstage…
July 15th, 2006 at 10:53 amPHucking bible thumpers…..when ever the truth starts to find its way out of the judeo/christian dungeon, they get out their paddles and start whacking their bibles to drown out any common sense.
All religion should be wiped out.
Immaculate conception??? Yeah right.
July 15th, 2006 at 11:55 amRealist = unbelievable.
Pinky = unbelievable.
July 15th, 2006 at 12:05 pmShe’s nuts, and the CSM is nuts for giving airtime to this not-even-pseudoscience. It’s like asking a Baptist minister to talk about evolution…oh, wait, they do that too.
That said, it’s disturbing to see otherwise level-headed posts here pulling out gender- and sexually-based derogatory comments for Gorin, the way it often happens for other right-wing women. Nobody makes these kinds of attacks against male wingnuts, and honestly, we’re better than this–after all, there is NO shortage of substantial material to attack these idiots about. I just find the whole “mAnn Coulter” trope unnecessary and at its heart misogynistic to a degree unbefitting the egalitarian, humanistic values we progressives claim to represent. We can do better. We have done better. We ARE better. C’mon, people.
July 15th, 2006 at 12:14 pmoops. c/airtime/column inches.
Forgot my terminology.
July 15th, 2006 at 12:15 pm“troll alert” has been recalled due to consistent inaccuracy in detecting trolls and habitual mistaken identities among Progressive bloggers.
The problem stems from a lack of adequate electronic capacity (i.e. “brain” damage).
We apologize for the inconvenience this has caused. But are mostly embarrassed by the utter failure of our “troll alert” product.
July 15th, 2006 at 1:07 pmRealist = unbelievable.
Pinky = unbelievable.
Marie = Donald Rumsfeld.
(the improved version 2.0) = unbelievable.
July 15th, 2006 at 1:40 pm#71 – Your kind will not be tolerated any longer simply because your outdated views and hate of the people of this world is intolerable.” Comment by PinkO
******Spoken like a true “toleRANT” progressive!! But then again, “progressive politics” is based on old, tired, failed philosophies. Need proof? Do some research on the “boutique socialism” in the worker’s paradise of Sweden? Their sociaized safety net is having a difficult time keep up with the entitled. Social spending had driven the government’s budget deficit to 35% of government spending and 13% of GDP. Swedish welfare provisions stipulated that anyone fired or laid off from a job could get up to 80% of his original salary in public assistance. Consequently, absenteeism in the private sector approached 25% – and why not? Work was punished! (A medical miracle occurred when Swedish pols decided that they would not allow sick pay for the “first day” of an illness – the result – miraculous work attendance on MONDAYS!) Free national health care made Sweden the “sickest” country in Europe – so long as government picked up the tab, Swedes demanded the highest care for the feeblest illnesses. The system buckled under the weight. Because almost everything was provided for, and because of income tax rates approaching 90% in the highest brackets, Swedish households accumulated almost no savings. And the CONFORMITY!!! Talk about intellectually stifling….
(the previous statistics attributed to Radley Balko and Virginia Postrel of Reason Magazine)
But the good news – the neo-libs (led by Carl Bildt), rolled back SOME of the entitlement spending and lowered the max tax on corporate profit. The social hammock inhabitants rejected the neo-libs but not before they WERE able to lessen telecom regulations, which has benefitted the Swedish economy. Now if they could just do something about Swedens’ abnormally high suicide rate….
July 15th, 2006 at 2:10 pmBACK ON THREAD – - Judd’s Caption:
July 15th, 2006 at 2:15 pm“Christian Science Monitor Prints Attack On Global Warming Science Written by Stand-Up Comic” – - Oh no, what would the New York Times say about that? I’d LOVE to hear Keller and Pinchy’s opinion….
[...] Think Progress pointed out yesterday an article in the Christian Science Monitor attacking Al Gore and sane people who understand the dangers of global warming. It was written by Julia Gorin, a standup comic in Las Vegas. She obviously isn’t very funny. Freud called it displacement. People fixate on the environment when they can’t deal with real threats. [...]
July 15th, 2006 at 2:52 pmI doubt her shows are very funny. I sent in a letter to the editor; a copy is on my blog.
July 15th, 2006 at 2:55 pmHey Aphrodite, goddess of love, or whatever delusional title you want to go by, thank you for agreeing with my world view. You seem to be challenged in the creative thinking department, so let me throw out some food for thought. One way to promote downsizing of the population would be to encourage those umbilically bound students to become abortion providers. Gluttony could be reduced by you joining the ranks of the unemployed and getting gastric bypass surgery. A good load of useless crap could be disposed of by removing most republicans from government positions.
On the subject of Cheney face shooting, did you hear your president joke about it during the White House Correspondence Dinner?
July 15th, 2006 at 3:47 pmScott = unbelievable.\\\ word ”delusional” a clear give-away.
M.A.,This hag, unbelievable,is clearly psychotic and just playing with herself.
July 15th, 2006 at 4:44 pm[...] The article is penned by stand-up comic Julia Gorin. An excerpt: “Scared and unsure how to fight terrorists, they confront climate change, which only requires spending trillions of other peoples dollars on something that may not need fixing or may not be fixable.”read more | digg story Posted by admin in Uncategorized | [...]
July 15th, 2006 at 5:15 pmI didn’t invent the word delusional – nor do I have exclusive rights to use it. And it pretty much fits you and your multiple personalities…
What are you going to do for the next two weeks that I’m out of town and in pre-planning meetings at school? Accuse the entire site of being me? Go ahead. Everyone already thinks your psychotic.
You’re the one who name shifts. I am only ‘unbelievable’.
July 15th, 2006 at 5:25 pmShouldn’t Scott speak for ‘himself’?
July 15th, 2006 at 5:45 pmTwo weeks out of town huh;I’ll be keeping a close eye on that.One less troll perhaps.
To say you only post as unbelievable has been proven false many times over.
‘Your’ should be ‘you are’ or ‘you’re’;as in, you’re a lying idiot.
To say you only post as unbelievable has been proven false many times over.
No it hasn’t. Because you can’t prove something that isn’t true. And stating you opinion does not make it true. Just proves you are a paranoid freak of nature.
‘Your’ should be ‘you are’ or ‘you’re’;as in, you’re a lying idiot.
Comment by troll alert — July 15, 2006 @ 5:45 pm
Nitpicking grammar? Funny from someone with non-existent grammar skills itself.
Proof that you are a lying idiot is the fact that I am neither.
By the way – a troll is someone like Seixon who is an opponent. A progressive on a progressive site is never the troll.
July 15th, 2006 at 5:55 pmA loud-mouth,like you,is always a troll.
July 15th, 2006 at 6:15 pmAnd you posted in M.A.s name,that can be proven.
Troll Alert,
I am the sophomoric moron from post 61 and 92. I want credit for my thoughts. Don’t give someone else my glory.
July 15th, 2006 at 6:56 pmA loud-mouth,like you,is always a troll.
Speak for yourself. I already explained that periods at the end of sentances do not connotate yelling, but normal tone. You really should have learned that in first grade.
And you posted in M.A.s name,that can be proven.
Comment by troll alert — July 15, 2006 @ 6:15 pm
Then prove it. Except that you can’t because it wasn’t me. I only post as ‘unbelievable’. You are simply projecting your own behavior on to me because you are obssessed with me. Well, get over it.
I’m out of here until Wednesday…
July 16th, 2006 at 8:39 amGood riddance.
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July 16th, 2006 at 11:29 amNice set-up,unbelievable,saying you’re gone for the day,then coming back and unloading your pile in # 105.
THAT’S THE OLDEST TRICK IN THE BOOK….[roflmao]
(the improved version 2.0) = unbelievable.
July 16th, 2006 at 5:06 pm# 103:
You said ”prove it”; I just did.(or you did).
Still laughing–hahahahahahaha………………………………………………
July 16th, 2006 at 5:15 pmI am no scientist, but that won’t stop me from making broad statements about the scientific community or methods. I read the news and it tells me what to think. I am good at being told what to do so therefore I feel it my duty to do my part and attack dissent. Yes, you see, there is no room for debate. I am told what to believe, currently it’s that 100% of the “smart scientists” are unanimous on global warming. All the other scientists are jesus freak flat earth society larry the cable guy watching neanderthals! LOLLERSLORFOOLES!! I love being apart of the cool in croud of such “critical thinkers”!
July 16th, 2006 at 5:44 pmThis Gorin — I’ve heard of her before – just barely. But if this is the best material she can come up with – its a good thing that many right wingers are humor impaired!:
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Scared and unsure how to fight terrorists, they confront “climate change,†which only requires spending trillions of other people’s dollars on something that may not need fixing or may not be fixable. No wonder some of these people chain themselves to trees – they think money grows on them.
Is this what Fox is going to try to put up as the alternative to The Daily Show?
The Nutjobs are stealing lines again: We will fight them on the beaches, we will fight them in the trenches – we will fight them in the Comedy Clubs?
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