Young America’s Foundation Student Conference Bans Progressive Reporters
Young America’s Foundation Student Conference Bans Progressive Reporters
Starting July 30, the Young America’s Foundation – which “specializes in helping young people advance conservative ideas” – will host the The National Conservative Student Conference.
Julie Siegel, a staff member at the Daily Pennsylvanian at UPenn, contacted YAF and asked for credentials to cover the convention on behalf of CampusProgress.org, the student publication at the Center for American Progress.
YAF’s spokesman Jason Mattera, who describes himself as “the surprisingly fresh face of conservatism,” denied her request:
Our event is open to real members of the press. You will not receive press credentials. My advice for you is to watch it on C-SPAN. If you have a problem with that decision, you can complain to the Foundation’s media department spokesman. Oh wait…that’s…me. :)
Subsequently, Mattera made clear that his decision to reject Siegel’s request was made on ideological grounds. Mattera told CampusProgress.org editor Ben Adler that The Nation, the country’s oldest progressive magazine with a circulation of almost 200,000, would also be denied credentials.
Mattera has twice covered the CampusProgress student conference for the National Review after that publication was granted press credentials, including the 2006 conference which took place on Wednesday.
Contact Rich Lowry, who is on the board of YAF’s National Journalism Center and writes for the National Review, and ask him if he supports Mattera’s decision to exclude reporters on ideological grounds. Let us know what you hear back.
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So that’s who stole my salad bowl. I must say that that haircut does suit him though.
July 14th, 2006 at 10:15 amWhat’s so fresh about the same old narrow-minded ideas. Fresh Face? maybe the face, but not the ideas, or the resistance to alternative ideas. More like the, Day Old Rack. Sign him up for Iraq!NOW!
July 14th, 2006 at 10:16 amIsn’t it akin to incest to only deal with your conservative relatives?
July 14th, 2006 at 10:19 amThe only thing worse than a dumb-assed punk, is a dumb-assed punk with painted on hair.
The only thining worse than a dumb-assed punk with painted on hair, is a dumb-assed punk with painted on hair, who uses this: :)
July 14th, 2006 at 10:21 amJason seems young and fit….why isn’t he defending our freedoms over in Iraq???
He must hate America!
July 14th, 2006 at 10:23 amToday’s lesson in the neighborhood, fresh faced cons, is the exclusion of others.
July 14th, 2006 at 10:27 amI new you’d like that. Next week: using innuendo to promote the brotherhood of bigotry.
All those recruiters calling my house? I’m giving them Jason’s email address.
July 14th, 2006 at 10:27 amFresh face of conservatism? Hardly. This is a rehash of old party hacks and their hard line against all who oppose them.
July 14th, 2006 at 10:27 amWhere is his brown shirt – he already has the required haircut.
Young America’s Foundation = Same clowns, different circus.
July 14th, 2006 at 10:29 amHmmmm, and there was all manner of press…including Byron York at Daily Kos.
July 14th, 2006 at 10:30 amHe looks like a used Q-tip with teeth.
Got news for ya: Republicans steal elections and censor free speech.
But you don’t hear the Democrats complaining, so why do I care.
Good for him! Let him have his tighty whitey Neocon suckfest!
July 14th, 2006 at 10:35 amWow, he really sucks at being a spokesman.
July 14th, 2006 at 10:38 amA guy I worked with in San Francisco said that, in general, most liberals are INCLUSIVE, while most conservatives are EXCLUSIVE.
Jason and his ilk clearly qualify for the exclusive brand. Appalling.
July 14th, 2006 at 10:39 amCAP, TP, and the likes are seriously going to have to contemplate Progressive radios durability through this current Israeli “crisis”.
Progressive radio and the Democratic party can no longer typecast bloggers as seperate from national debate. As it is now, prog radio downplays anti-Israel sentiment. Which is a far greater injustice than Mr. Velcro not allowing reporters because of ideology.
July 14th, 2006 at 10:39 amI think campusprogress reporters should just crash the event anyway. Julie Siegel should dress up in a Sean Hannity costume and attend undercover. Conservatives are morons so they’ll never notice the difference.
July 14th, 2006 at 10:42 amBut you don’t hear the Democrats complaining, so why do I care.
Comment by Destroy the DLC — July 14, 2006 @ 10:35 am
The left does complain. Hence this thread.
Take your fingers out of your ears. You might hear better that way.
July 14th, 2006 at 10:42 amTake your hands off your eyes. You might see better that way.
But, please, monkey, covert your mouth, you definitely are speaking far too much evil…
Text of a letter I just sent Mr. Lowry:
Dear Mr. Lowry:
I understand that you are a board member for the Young Americans for Freedom’s National Journalism Center.
I am writing to you regarding what appears to be strangely fearful behavior by Mr. Jason Mattera,
YAF media department spokesperson regarding YAF’s upcoming National Conservative Student Conference.
Apparently, Mr. Mattera has refused media credentials to a reporter seeking to cover this event for CampusProgress.org ;
Mr. Mattera’s apparent refusal seems to be due to ideological disagreement with CampusProgress.org (see
this link for details). I note that Mr. Mattera told the reporter in question that she could apply to attend the conference as
a paying member, and also that he would deny credentials to reporters from other publications as well, based on his
political disagreements with those publications. Intriguingly, Mr. Mattera has twice been credentialed to cover
CampusProgress.org’s own conference (see this link for details).
As a YAF NJC board member, do you support this sort of insularity? Do you think that denying press credentials based
on ideological disagreement is in any way “journalistic”? Is this the sort of education in “journalism” that YAF’s NJC
is promoting?
As a scholar and educator (I teach economics at the University of Maryland and will be a Visiting Professor of
Law & Economics at the FSU law school next year) who believes that open inquiry is an important part of political life
for partisans on all sides, I am sorry to see such an instance of conservatives turning inward, in apparent fear of open
examination of their ideas.
Conservatives love to talk about how liberals’ supposed lack of ideas is partly due to such insularity, and so on.
Do you worry that your younger generation (Mr. Mattera calls himself “the surprisingly fresh face of conservatism”,
a claim about which I can make no assessment on grounds other than his surprising and perhaps fresh fear of
coverage by those who disagree with him; I will simply assume that he is, indeed, a face of conservativism) is
going to fall into just such a talk-only-to-each-other trap?
I have to think that you, as a prominent opinion journalist, must be at least a little embarrassed to hear of
Mr. Mattera’s Politburoism.
Sincerely,
Jonah B. Gelbach
July 14th, 2006 at 10:45 amunbelievable,
July 14th, 2006 at 10:46 amDon’t get cute with me. After all this time you’re stll hot headed and misdirected.
The “Left” does not speak for the Democratic party.
I attempted to craft my disapproval of Jason’s smarmy closed-mindedness into an eloquent statement here, but I can’t get beyond the fact that Dude is jus’ plain funny-lookin’!
Anyone else think ‘Damien’ after seeing his pic?
July 14th, 2006 at 10:47 amDon’t get cute with me.
Yes, I realize you have no sense of humor and are intensely angry. It shows when you pitch a fit over ‘cute’… I bet you really pitch a tizzy over puppies and kittens then…
After all this time you’re stll hot headed and misdirected.
Not at all. I’m a very calm person. If you’re reading my posts with anger, it is because that is what you know. Try some deep breathing. Should help.
The “Left†does not speak for the Democratic party.
Comment by Destroy the DLC — July 14, 2006 @ 10:46 am
Well, that is the idea. You know, opposition party and all that. Left being opposite of right would mean Democrat is opposite of Republican. Opposition = opposite.
You guys should vote for people willing to send you a free dictionary… so you can look up the actual meaning of words, instead of the ones you think they mean. Might help with your general confusion.
July 14th, 2006 at 10:52 amCaption Contest:
July 14th, 2006 at 10:55 amLook! I can grow Chia hair!
Be the latest young conservative on your block
to grow it, too! (You must die it black, though;
we don’t like Green.)
“Real” members of the press? Like Jeff Gannon, for instance?
July 14th, 2006 at 10:55 amCan you blame him? If I were conservative right now, I’d be embarrassed too. It’s like inviting the press to watch you circle jerk. You just don’t do it.
July 14th, 2006 at 10:55 amNice to see young conservatives don’t believe in the freedoms their president want’s to spread around the world. I guess we no longer need those freedoms in our conservative democracy.
July 14th, 2006 at 10:58 amLeve it to the conservative assholes!…
Because my positions are generally stated quite clearly, I’ve been pre-banned on several sites I’d never heard of. When I tried to create an account on one of these sites, the message was personal:
And there were several of those.
It seems that the fright-wing cannot tolerate dissent, even if that dissent is expressed through humor.
Well, we now know which person in that story grew up needy and attention-seeking and insufficient, and which person obviously had decent parents who gave her the room to just be whoever she wanted to be…
To paraphrase a HuffPo poster, we not only need lawyers, guns, and money, but we desperately need tens of thousands of psychiatrists to deal with all these whiny, scared conservatives…
.
July 14th, 2006 at 11:00 amWhy does he hate the First Amendment so much?
July 14th, 2006 at 11:01 amlol yes!
July 14th, 2006 at 11:01 amVampires – all of them. Afraid of a little daylight.
July 14th, 2006 at 11:01 amthey are ashamed of what they do , that’s why they can’t afford to have it reported on.
July 14th, 2006 at 11:01 am“Unbelieveable” really believes that Republican is an OPPOSITE for Democrat?? So if the Dems believe in liberal democracy, Republicans must believe in a totalitarian system of government? Dems believe in Social Security, so good Republicans must believe in NO social security? Dems believe in improved port security so Republicans must believe in NO port security?
Hmmm maybe he’s right. My bad …
July 14th, 2006 at 11:06 amThe “Left†does not speak for the Democratic party.
Comment by Destroy the DLC
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Oh?I rather think the left defines the Democratic party.
And I’m a member of that party.
July 14th, 2006 at 11:09 am#30
I’m glad the left defines the democratic party. They’ll insure they will remain the minority party for some time to come.
July 14th, 2006 at 11:12 amThe Foundation is growing little fascists. We’re surprised that they deal with people who disagree with them in this manner? Come on. If they could take out a gun and blow away people who disagree with them, i think they would. It’s in the nature of the fascist beast.
July 14th, 2006 at 11:17 amJason Mattera you need to visit GoArmy.com, I am sure they have a job for you that will allow you to show just how much you support this administration… I served, why don’t you. Or, are you a coward.
July 14th, 2006 at 11:18 amSteve53
We all wish. The guys defining the Democrats are the strategists, who haven’t exactly proven very good at their jobs. It is time for the Dems to take a risk and go left. They have been getting repeatedly told not to do it by the Republicans, but face it, isn’t it a bit mind-numbingly stupid to listen to your opponents strategy advice?
It is time for the Democrats to catch fire and burn the Republicans on ever issue, because everything the Republicans have touched has turned to feces. It is time for the Democrats to wake up and find themselves strong. It is also time for the Democrats to clean house and get rid of the weasels who are unwilling to stand up for what they believe in. Lieberman is a start, but not the only DINO in need of extinction.
July 14th, 2006 at 11:20 amEvery issue in 34
July 14th, 2006 at 11:21 amWhy isn’t this guy in the military? Why is he not over in Iraq fighting for our so called America?
He probably is a son of a rich conservative neocon that says they support the troops but can not fight for our country.
July 14th, 2006 at 11:22 amI think campusprogress reporters should just crash the event anyway. Julie Siegel should dress up in a Sean Hannity costume and attend undercover.
Comment by neopro
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Hannity covered the Democratic convention.(Akin to a nazi attending a bar mitzvah)
…not that I listened to a word of his “analysis”.
July 14th, 2006 at 11:23 amThey took this move from the 1934 Youth Movement in Germany. Do dessention, no thinking. I hear they have snappy brown shirts and leiderhosen to where at the conference as well.
July 14th, 2006 at 11:26 amHmmm maybe he’s right. My bad …
Comment by DanF — July 14, 2006 @ 11:06 am
“She”
July 14th, 2006 at 11:28 amdamn. what an angry little boy.
Betcha there’s no girlz allowed either. they have cooties.
July 14th, 2006 at 11:30 amIf you read John Dean’s new book, “Conservatives Without Conscience,” then you will see that there are PSYCHOLOGICAL reasons for this type of AUTHORITARIANISM. Conservatives are all a bunch of control freaks governed by FEAR.
Read Dean, because he really explicates the conservative’s twisted thinking.
LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL!
July 14th, 2006 at 11:37 amUnbelieveable – Not knowing your sex based on your post, I went with the default pronoun of “he”. My point still stands. Republican should not be an opposite of Democrat. We are all Americans and there should be some core principles that we all share. Democracy, rule of law, struggle for the common good, etc. We may not always agree on policy on how to obtain these goals, but we should remember that we are suppose to be on the same team. Republicans in the last 20 years have so polarized our country that you actually believe that R is opposite of D. Just think about that. Through inflammed rhetoric of the Coulter/Limbaugh/Hannity/O’reilly variety you may actually believe that liberals hate America and want to see it destroyed. Not only is that crazy, but it undermines a core strength of our country.
July 14th, 2006 at 11:45 amThe surprisingly fresh face of evil.
July 14th, 2006 at 11:51 amGosh, there is a whole bible verse that says that whatever is done in secret will be….uh…..something something. The gist of it is that there is nothing secret, and all these folks proclaiming their way is superior are certainly scared someone will get a good look at it.
Was this the crowd who last year decided that they could serve the country better by not joining the military? hahah
July 14th, 2006 at 11:52 amThe glazed eyes, the big smile, the tight necktie – future fellow of the think-con tank-head circuit written all over him. I’d suggest taking a page from the tactics of the American Stasi and get a few young students to join up and send back covert reports.
July 14th, 2006 at 11:54 amHello all, some good posts, some iffie.
#18 distroy the DLC…..Your comment of “The left does not speak for the Democratic party”.. Should read the Democratic party no longer speaks..Definately not for the left….Sadly the Dem’s in many cases have become Rep. lite and vote accordingly. With all our out cry on all issues they rarely represent the true progressives or left.. On most issues they have become spinless and the party if it is to remain must clean house and vote out the Republican lites such as Lieberman. Am I wrong in thinking that our representatives are suposto do what their voters want.? I think not…We can no longer allow any representatives of any party to do their wrong doing to pad their own pockets at the expense of We the people of America or the world……….Blessings
July 14th, 2006 at 12:00 pmThe guy was interviewed on Hardball and when asked if he believes so strongly in what we are doing in Iraq, why is he not over there helping. He responded that he needs to be here fighting the “culture war”. Excluding the reporter is not a surprise. They have to control these things so tightly so they work according to script. Can’t have anyone disagree or challenge them, much less report on it to the American public. Strange.
July 14th, 2006 at 12:08 pm#31
I’m glad the left defines the democratic party. They’ll insure they will remain the minority party for some time to come.
Comment by In the Middle — July 14, 2006 @ 11:12 am
Must make you proud being in the majority, who considers gay marriage and flag burning the two most important issues facing this country.
Fu*k the uninsured and cancer patients who can barely afford their medications and troops in Iraq without adequate equipment, eh?
July 14th, 2006 at 12:13 pmMy opinion is this – “You, as a supposed American, are going to deny me my responsibility to the rest of the country as a reporter because you don’t like what I’m going to say? You deserve to be shot in the face on TV while your horrified parents watch in person. You’re no American; you make me sick to my stomach.”
July 14th, 2006 at 12:14 pmWhich young guy wants to be a conservative?
July 14th, 2006 at 12:15 pmThat is reserved for old boring farts like Fawell and Cheney, Ann Coulter and other fossils.
A normal young man is about new ideas not the past and the status quo, which is what conservatism is all about.
Steve53
We all wish. The guys defining the Democrats are the strategists, who haven’t exactly proven very good at their jobs. It is time for the Dems to take a risk and go left. They have been getting repeatedly told not to do it by the Republicans, but face it, isn’t it a bit mind-numbingly stupid to listen to your opponents strategy advice?
It is time for the Democrats to catch fire and burn the Republicans on ever issue, because everything the Republicans have touched has turned to feces. It is time for the Democrats to wake up and find themselves strong. It is also time for the Democrats to clean house and get rid of the weasels who are unwilling to stand up for what they believe in. Lieberman is a start, but not the only DINO in need of extinction.
Comment by Bruce Gorton
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Bruce,
Regarding your first paragraph:you’re correct, of course.
I should have said that liberalism,to a large degree,defines the Democrat philosopy.
I could not agree more with the sentiments expressed in your second paragraph.
July 14th, 2006 at 12:17 pmoops.
July 14th, 2006 at 12:19 pmMake that “philosophy”.
This is the douche who organized the affirmative action bakesales. ’nuff said?
July 14th, 2006 at 12:21 pmThe National Socialist German Workers Party was the majority
for a while in Germany as well. So you mean like them right?
So I guess might makes right then?!!!
and by the way…
“If by a “Liberal” they mean someone who looks ahead and not behind, someone who welcomes new ideas without rigid reactions, someone who cares about the welfare of the people — their health, their housing, their schools, their jobs, their civil rights, and their civil liberties — … then I’m proud to say I’m a “Liberal.”
-JFK
July 14th, 2006 at 12:24 pmFresh Face Of Conservatism? No, more Like the New Fresh Face of FASCISM!
July 14th, 2006 at 12:25 pmTime to bring in the law, and whip this narrow-minded dips**t with it. Or, Maybe we should be a bit kinder and send him a LARGE PRINT version of the Consitution, and bill of rights…..
Mike, I remember it well.
found a transcript. It was hilarious.
MATTERA: I think my group is supporting President Bush on this matter. We‘re looking to defeat the terrorists.
MATTHEWS: Where? In Iraq.
MATTERA: In Iraq. Of course in Iraq.
And there—you won‘t see on college campuses, as you did in the 1960s, these rampant protests, these obstruction of classroom, these—the book burning, everything that went down. I think kids are more conservative today. And I think groups such as the Young America‘s Foundation help that—help mold that conservatism.
MATTHEWS: Would you like to enlist them? You‘re 21. You‘re eligible to serve. Would you like to serve in this war?
MATTERA: I‘m fighting the battle for ideas. I‘m fighting…
(CROSSTALK)
MATTHEWS: No, I‘m just asking a particular question. Would you like to enlist in this war?
MATTERA: No, because I‘m fighting a separate battle. I‘m fighting—we‘re fighting the culture war here, but I‘m also supporting the battle that‘s raging in Iraq.
MATTHEWS: Well, what kind of people should fight in this war, if not you?
MATTERA: Those who want to, those who want—who feel the desire, who have the passion to go over to Iraq. I have many friends who are in Iraq myself, people from my church, people who I graduated with.
MATTHEWS: Yes.
MATTERA: They went to go fight over there. I‘m here. I‘m fighting
the culture war right now. Both need to be fought and both need to be won
by conservatives.
MATTHEWS: Paul Hackett, a Democratic candidate for Congress who just lost that close election in Ohio, referred to the president as a chicken hawk, somebody who supports war, but doesn‘t fight it. What do you think of that phrase, chicken hawk?
MATTERA: I don‘t like the phrase chicken hawk.
(CROSSTALK)
MATTHEWS: Why not?
MATTERA: Because it doesn‘t fit. I don‘t think President Bush…
MATTHEWS: It means you talk hawk, but you act chicken.
MATTERA: Yes, I understand that, but I don‘t think that President Bush is a chicken hawk.
(LAUGHTER)
July 14th, 2006 at 12:26 pmThese are the same people screaming about the(libural) media not presenting a “fair and balanced” view.
July 14th, 2006 at 12:27 pmAhhh the new “Brown Shirts” are taking lessons from their
fascist fathers eh?
Shocker!!!
They probably don’t let gays or jews or arabs or latinos or asians
in the meeting as well right. Well, unless they havee a ton of $$$$
or they’re selling ass like old jimmyjeff.
Who needs to go. I’m sure we can guess the agenda.
Screw democracy we want power and wealth and we will
kill and destory the world for it.
Just like our sick and twisted parents!
Whooopeeee!!!!
With a bonus follow-up talk on how Noah fit all those
July 14th, 2006 at 12:32 pmDinos on the Ark! And then slept with his daughters!
yeeeah!
I remember seeing this punk on “Hardball”. Matthews asked him why he wasn’t in Iraq fighting after he said that he supported the war. In typical republican/chickenhawk fashion he said he WAS FIGHTING. He was FIGHTING the LIBERALS. He was FIGHTING for the conservative cause. He was ready to FIGHT any and everyone who got in his way. In short he is a typical republican chickenhawk.
July 14th, 2006 at 12:36 pmMATTERA: Those who want to, those who want—who feel the desire, who have the passion to go over to Iraq. I have many friends who are in Iraq myself, people from my church, people who I graduated with.
In other words…
“I don’t have the passion to go over to Iraq and take the chance of getting my head blown off, even if it means helping to prevent another attack on the United States which is why we are over there.”
Yeah, buddy, you certainly are going to prevent another attack here by fighting your culture war. What are you going to do if you confront a terrorist on the street? Have a chat with him and convince him to abandon his beliefs?
July 14th, 2006 at 12:41 pmYoung Fascists Foundation. Welcome to the new America :/
July 14th, 2006 at 12:44 pmHello all, some good posts, some iffie.
#18 distroy the DLC…..Your comment of “The left does not speak for the Democratic partyâ€.. Should read the Democratic party no longer speaks..Definately not for the left….Sadly the Dem’s in many cases have become Rep. lite and vote accordingly. With all our out cry on all issues they rarely represent the true progressives or left.. On most issues they have become spinless and the party if it is to remain must clean house and vote out the Republican lites such as Lieberman. Am I wrong in thinking that our representatives are suposto do what their voters want.? I think not…We can no longer allow any representatives of any party to do their wrong doing to pad their own pockets at the expense of We the people of America or the world……….Blessings
Comment by Sharon Cox
July 14th, 2006 at 12:45 pm============
Sharon,
I second that emotion.
These are the same people screaming about the(libural) media not presenting a “fair and balanced†view.
Comment by Ho Chi Minh
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Right,HCM.
It’s:”Pay no attention to what we said 5 minutes ago.”
July 14th, 2006 at 12:49 pm#62; I believe it should be renamed the Joseph Goebbels Memorial Propaganda Ministry.
July 14th, 2006 at 12:54 pm#55; I did not see the Matthews interview with this amazing dufus, but the transcript you posted clearly shows that he’s another cowardly CHICKENHAWK.
July 14th, 2006 at 12:57 pm[...] Conservatism: The ideology of exclusion Young America’s Foundation Student Conference Bans Progressive Reporters [...]
July 14th, 2006 at 12:59 pmThis guy seems a firm candidate for the Saint Peter’s Throne in the Vatican, year 2056.
July 14th, 2006 at 1:17 pm#67; Funny that you should mention sandbox. I was just wondering how much kitty litter you consume/day.
July 14th, 2006 at 1:21 pmLooking at the picture, EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW, Who does his hair?
July 14th, 2006 at 1:22 pmI wrote my email to Mr. Lowry. I can’t wait to see how/if he responds. I will share whatever he sends back to me. It’ll be interesting to see how he views Mr. Mattera’s words & actions.
July 14th, 2006 at 1:23 pmCowards.
July 14th, 2006 at 1:23 pm67–thanks for making our point–those who don’t agree with the Jason and the YAF will have to watch on C-SPAN. I am making a wild guess here, but I’m thinking this thread was about a conservative group not letting others play in their “sandbox.”
July 14th, 2006 at 1:25 pmi took the liberty of writing to chris matthews at hardball about this story, as jason has been a guest on that prggram.
July 14th, 2006 at 1:25 pmFor what it’s worth, here’s what I emailed:
I’ll let you know his response, if and when I receive one.
July 14th, 2006 at 1:28 pmMA, how truly affected you are… Listen closely Dear, you still need a bigger shovel if you want to play in our sand box. In fact in your case you would need a backhoe….Repeating the same old shit all the time is so MA. borinnnnnnnnnnnnng. Go back to red state, it works there….
July 14th, 2006 at 1:31 pmWhy hasnt this guy joined the Army, the Marines or the Air Force and gone over to Iraq? Oh, thats right. He’s a chicken. COWARD!!!!!
July 14th, 2006 at 1:31 pmCouldnt someone tip the recruiters that they shall go to this event and set up a booth outside?
Some history:
This is the same Jason Mattera who started a whites-only scholarship fund at Roger Williams University to protest affirmative action and support “equal treatment for all students.” Of course, at the time, he conveniently brushed aside the fact that he himself got $3,500 from the Hispanic College Fund. So, acting out on behalf of SELF-SERVICE rather than ACTUAL PRINCIPLE is really nothing new to him.
Hate to link to FOX NEWS, but check it out:
July 14th, 2006 at 1:32 pm
Looking at the picture, EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW, Who does his hair?
Comment by Ho Chi Minh — July 14, 2006 @ 1:22 pm
Ummm…LawnBoy? John Deere?
July 14th, 2006 at 1:36 pmModerated by Admin.
July 14th, 2006 at 1:39 pmThanks for the Hardball transcript, Snoop. I wouldn’t call this guy a chickenhawk. I’d call him a chickenshit (with bad hair).
The “surprisingly fresh face of conservatism” needs to go provide a surprisingly fresh pair of boots on the ground in Iraq. Unless they won’t let him in – can you get a deferment for being born without any balls?
July 14th, 2006 at 1:40 pmCan’t have liberals around. They’ll see all the gay sex.
July 14th, 2006 at 1:48 pm.
Above the Clouds – I’m saving the planets’ resources with my viable suggestion. You don’t honestly want progressive “reporters” burning fossil fuels or electricity getting to a meeting where they will parse every syllable and disagree with every sentence.
Braid Fair – Got a quick e-m from my friend Rich – you should be getting your CC soon – but in case you, too have a life, let me assist:
“Do you stand by the Mr. Mattera? Does he accurately portray your organization?
I’ll let you know his response, if and when I receive one. Comment by Briseadh na Faire
Rich -”Of course I stand by Mr. Mattera – He accurately portrays our organization as well as Howard Dean portrays the Dems and Cindy Sheehan portrays the Gold Star Mothers.”
And my FAVOURITE “comment” of the day (so far):
#75 – “MA, how truly affected you are… Listen closely Dear, you still need a bigger shovel if you want to play in our sand box.” Comment by Sharon Cox
Dear SC – How truly kind of you to point out the need for a bigger shovel and backhoe!! You’re absolutely right – I mean left – with as much $h*t posted by the progs at TP, TWO backhoes might be needed. Blessings….
I’m late….
July 14th, 2006 at 1:50 pmExcluding reporters if they’re liberal. Screening citizens for republican events to make sure they agree… why have today’s conservatives become such fearful wimps?
July 14th, 2006 at 1:56 pmModerated by Admin.
July 14th, 2006 at 1:56 pmI’m late….
Comment by mighty aphrodite — July 14, 2006 @ 1:50 pm
And yet playing with your own feces . . .
July 14th, 2006 at 2:02 pmThere is nothing wrong with a group not allowing certain reporters into their convention. I don’t care if it is because they are Democrats. We are free to have or not have who we want in America. If a bunch of conservatives don’t care for having a Democrat reporter at there conference, it is their right!
July 14th, 2006 at 2:07 pmThey really just wish people who think differently would GO AWAY. We look for ways to move forward and they’re only interested in erasing us. It’s really, really sad.
July 14th, 2006 at 2:07 pmFidelia Smith
Marketing Manager.
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Comment by fidelis smith — July 14, 2006 @ 1:56 pm
Go away!
July 14th, 2006 at 2:10 pmI’m late….
Comment by mighty aphrodite — July 14, 2006 @ 1:50
You’re also delusional and paranoid.
July 14th, 2006 at 2:10 pmOf course they have the right, Ruth. The question in my mind is what are they afraid of. Why are they so fearful of reporting? Have they so little faith in their ideas that they don’t want a critical ear to hear them. It’s just so cowardly and wimpy.
July 14th, 2006 at 2:24 pmI covered this guy a while back supporting a “white’s only” scholarship with the college republicans:
http://colorblind.typepad.com/the_colorblind_society/2004/02/whitesonly_scho.html
A puerto rican on a puerto-rican scholarship supporting a “whites only” scholarship. Yep, he is the fresh cynical face of conservatism.
July 14th, 2006 at 2:25 pmDebate something relevant. Like the national debt. Stop pissing on each other. Suggest how we are suppose to resurrect, restructure, improve and/or modify Social Security. How are we going to pay pensions and benefits to an ever increasing federal government payroll? How do we manage cost for the new drug benefits. Deficits flucuate by congresses/administrations and vary by percentage of GDP but the debt keeps growing. How do we get politicians to stop passing the BUCK. It will be your problem soon enough. How about the quality of education in United States? Now there’s a discussion.
July 14th, 2006 at 2:26 pm#85
Isn’t it odd how were “spreading” freedom abroad, but limiting it at home?
t-mac
July 14th, 2006 at 2:27 pmDear MA….”I’m late”. sure hope you mean late to get somewhere…..If in fact you mean I’m late in the pregnent term may I add, some people shoulden’t breed..You being the one I am refering to…..
July 14th, 2006 at 2:28 pmIf a bunch of conservatives don’t care for having a Democrat reporter at there conference, it is their right!
And it’s our right to call them out on their anti-American ideals and hypocrisy.
July 14th, 2006 at 2:30 pmMighty aphrodite, you shouldn’t bless publically those you curse privately. It’s deceitful, self-righteous, and sinful.
July 14th, 2006 at 2:33 pm“A puerto rican on a puerto-rican scholarship supporting a “whites only†scholarship. Yep, he is the fresh cynical face of conservatism. ”
It’s called “self-loathing,” and it’s rampant in conservatism today. Brock chronicles the rampant self-loathing among Conservative pundits and supporters in “Blinded by the Right.”
July 14th, 2006 at 2:39 pmHEY MILITARY RECRUITER!!!
I know where you can find a large group on young people who love George W Bush and are willing to join the armesd services and fight for their country. Yes you heard me right, they love GWB and the military. They will fight them over there so they won’t have to fight them over here. Look no further than “The National Conservative Student Conference”. Find out where it’s being held this year and get your ASSES over there. Good Luck!!!
July 14th, 2006 at 2:44 pmMighty Aphrodite:
Jason Mattera is not allowing reporters from organizations which have expressed opinions different than those of the YAF. You seem to think that there is no problem with this, am I correct? Why would you support Mattera’s decision? Do you think this is consonant with the principles on which our country was founded?
July 14th, 2006 at 2:45 pmIt’s evident from his writing that Mattera enjoys taunting people and the idea that he can control them.
You know, like a third-grader. Nice to see he’s got an attitude to match his schoolyard worldview.
July 14th, 2006 at 2:53 pmA page right out of the republican playbook. Surround yourself with poeple who think like you and you’ll never be wrong…or have to think. Just look at George W Bush’s town hall meeting if you think am crazy.
July 14th, 2006 at 2:55 pmI’m tired of these little punks.
They think that they have power. They have nothing. It’s why they engage in exclusion.
July 14th, 2006 at 3:02 pmNothing like being a fascist at a young age!
July 14th, 2006 at 3:04 pm#18 distroy the DLC…..Your comment of “The left does not speak for the Democratic partyâ€.. Should read the Democratic party no longer speaks..Definately not for the left….Sadly the Dem’s in many cases have become Rep. lite and vote accordingly.
Comment by Sharon Cox
Whenever I sign a petition or participate in telephone polls (not poles!), and am asked which party best represents my beliefs, I always have to pick “other.” I’m a registered Liberal, and the Dems are only somewhat better than the Repubs at representing my views. It’s a pity. I wish there was a viable Liberal party.
July 14th, 2006 at 3:14 pmMore like a missing chromosome convention. They’re all a bunch of numbskull followers who cannot think for themselves.
July 14th, 2006 at 3:31 pmWhy not…
Park your cars outside the venue and play some music extremely loud? Say, some Kevin Bloody Wilson tracks? Don’t Touch Your Sister, Born-again Pisstank, and The Kid he Swears a Little Bit, all seem strangely fitting.
July 14th, 2006 at 3:31 pmFYI – My email to Lowry:
Hello Mr. Lowry,
I am writing regarding press credentials for the National Conservative Student Conference. I understand press credentials are being denied.
Do you supports Mattera’s decision to exclude reporters on ideological grounds?
I find this disturbing, especially for an American organization.
Thank you,
July 14th, 2006 at 3:35 pm#67
homophobic, homophobe, reckless, vicious mean-spirited, hateful, fascists, extreme, religious-right, war-monger, greedy, selfish
Describes yourself to a tee, oh “mighty” one. Hard to believe you still come to this site to post your bile. Love how you’re still trying to perpetuate yourself as a career girl, former military, current attorney, mother of four and happily married to Mr. A. You’re consistent though, consistently out of touch with reality.
July 14th, 2006 at 3:41 pmHe’s a asshole. People like that eventually self-destruct, a la mAnnCoulter.
July 14th, 2006 at 4:09 pm“Fresh Face of Conservatism”. Looks more like a well groomed marketable skinhead. Probably drives a BMW and contributes to the greenhouse gas bank. And “in hte Middle and other “middle of the road “Dems” are the real reeason we lost. You’re to wishy-washy to take a REAL stand on issues like THE WAR, GAY MARRIAGE, NATIONALIZED HEALTH CARE and other “controvercial and progressive issues. Go hand with your Evangelical cohorts and let a rEAL Democratic party develop.
July 14th, 2006 at 4:09 pm“Oh wait…that’s…me. :)”
Is that guy 12 years old?
July 14th, 2006 at 4:10 pmIs that guy 12 years old?
Comment by AnAmerican
Even a 12 year old would be more professional than that — maybe 9 years old.
July 14th, 2006 at 4:22 pmThe Nazi’s are trying to get back in business. This guy, like all the other followers of dyslexic people like george bush and company, is so out of touch with reality, he probably sleeps with the light on because of the boogy-man that resides in his own sick head. America, beware! Ideologies left unchecked and carried forth by spasmodic lunatics like this kid can quickly turn into Nazi Germany revived. These people don’t like to think; they want someone to tell them how to do EVERYTHING because following orders is all they understand. All that kid wants to hear us say is “TAKE ME TO YOUR LEADER.” People like this are obsessed with evil, manipulation, and secrecy because they crave (and worship people in) ultimate power. And they eventually will “eat their own” (sell each other out) to stay in power or protect their so-called leader. Sounds like a certain biblical character…I think they called him SATAN.
July 14th, 2006 at 4:29 pmI realize that this is off topic, but just a comment about Mighty Aphrodite.
Aphrodite was the mythological Goddess of love and beauty. Now, we of course have no way of knowing if MA fulfills the physical requirement, but her words engender anything but love.
I’d like to suggest the the Think Progress community award Mighty Aphrodite with a new name drawn from mythology; one more in keeping with the rancor she displays.
My own humble suggestion would be Mighty Kali, the multi-armed Hindu Goddess of Evil and Death. You may remember the movie “Gunga Din” with Sam Jaffe, Cary Grant, Douglas Fairbanks, Jr. and other luminaries of the silver screen. In that movie the “thugees” went into battle screaming ‘kill for the love of Kali”.
This seems to be more in keeping with the vituperation that spews from MA.
July 14th, 2006 at 4:32 pmSee, and that’s why a punch in the face would work such wondrous magic upon this smug young prick. The problem is, the asshole contingent in the right asume that, because we’re liberals and believe in people’s rights and caring for the poor, elderly and sick, that it means we’re pussies. Lord, he needs a bit more of what we call a “street education”.
July 14th, 2006 at 4:36 pmOr maybe you can post a comment on this matter at the National Review. Wait the National Review does not allow comments from anyone other than their rightwing group. If it’s good enough for the “adults” (NRO), it’s good enough for the youngsters.
July 14th, 2006 at 4:51 pmEven a 12 year old would be more professional than that — maybe 9 years old.
Comment by Zooey — July 14, 2006 @ 4:22 pm
Can we go for 6 yrs old? That’s how old my daughter will be next week, and fresh out of kindergarten she is writing sentences that would put this fool to shame.
July 14th, 2006 at 5:06 pmFor almost half a century, social scientists have been exploring authoritarianism. We do not typically associate authoritarianism with our democracy, but as I discovered while examining decades of empirical research, we ignore some findings at our risk. Unfortunately, the social scientists who have studied these issues report their findings in monographs and professional journals written for their peers, not for general readers. With the help of a leading researcher and others, I waded into this massive body of work.
What I found provided a personal epiphany. Authoritarian conservatives are, as a researcher told me, “enemies of freedom, antidemocratic, antiequality, highly prejudiced, mean-spirited, power hungry, Machiavellian and amoral.” And that’s not just his view. To the contrary, this is how these people have consistently described themselves when being anonymously tested, by the tens of thousands over the past several decades.
Authoritarianism’s impact on contemporary conservatism is beyond question. Because this impact is still growing and has troubling (if not actually evil) implications, I hope that social scientists will begin to write about this issue for general readers. It is long past time to bring the telling results of their empirical work into the public square and to the attention of American voters. No less than the health of our democracy may depend on this being done. We need to stop thinking we are dealing with traditional conservatives on the modern stage, and instead recognize that they’ve often been supplanted by authoritarians.
Triumph of the Authoritarians
July 14th, 2006 at 5:15 pmby John W. Dean
The only people who refuse to let others join in their discussions and groupthink organizing, are those who are afraid to let their ideologies be examined. And those ideologies are likely completely full of holes.
Of course these people have learned the art of secrecy from the Bush administration, so what a surprise.
July 14th, 2006 at 5:27 pmThere is nothing wrong with a group not allowing certain reporters into their convention. I don’t care if it is because they are Democrats. We are free to have or not have who we want in America. If a bunch of conservatives don’t care for having a Democrat reporter at there conference, it is their right!
Comment by Ruth — July 14, 2006 @ 2:07 pm
Perhaps true, but what it boils down to, Ruth, is that Jason doesn’t want to get his feelings hurt. You see, Julie might write something that Jason just doesn’t want to hear. It might contradict his foundation’s message…might give people something to think about…and, well, gosh, we can’t have that now can we?
And speaking of “real newspapers,” I wonder what credentials Jason has as a “real” reporter seeing as how he has twice covered the CampusProgress student conference for the National Review? Reading his childish response to Julie as posted above, apparently the answer is “none.” Checking his bio reveals not a hint of a journalism major. Seeing as how she is a staff member of a university publication and Jason is, well, not, I’d say she could run circles around ol’ Jason without much effort.
July 14th, 2006 at 5:28 pm#96 – Dear MA….â€I’m lateâ€. sure hope you mean late to get somewhere…..If in fact you mean I’m late in the pregnent term may I add, some people shoulden’t breed..You being the one I am refering to…..” Comment by Sharon Cox
******Dear Sharon – If I didn’t know better I’d think you were one of those who adhere to the theory of eugenics….
#98 – “Mighty aphrodite, you shouldn’t bless publically those you curse privately. It’s deceitful, self-righteous, and sinful.” – Comment by Drina
******Dear Drina – Thank you for your input! Actually, I curse no one here. (Are you projecting???) Your opinion of me is none of my business – just as your judgementalism is none of my business.
#101 – “Do you think this is consonant with the principles on which our country was founded?” Comment by Wolfdaughter
******Dear Wolfdaughter – No, I do not think the principle you describe is consonant with our countries principles. However, I do think it is consistent.
#110 – Dear Pink0 – I am truly saddened that my attempt to assist leftist/socialists “journalists” is rebuffed by you. (As boringly predictable as leftist journalists tend to be, I could write their screed using anti-conservative vocabulary.) Progressives who play in the left-blog (sounds llike something out of Beowulf) have not had an original thought in 150 years – why start now?
#116 – Dear Connecticut Eric – I display no rancor unless you conclude that providing progressive journalists with a comprehensive list of “left-wing approved” vocabulary is somehow rancorous. As for the attributes of Aphrodite: I have GREAT love in my heart for God, my family, my country, my community, my friends, and a wide variety of the people I meet. I believe everyone I meet is entitled to be treated courteously. I have an intense dislike for traitors, Islamofascists, socialists, One-Worlders, murderers, rapists, child molesters and pornographers. I assume you are equally discerning in your personal choices…..
July 14th, 2006 at 6:17 pmyeah MA you may believe all those things you say you “love” but here’s the real you as well:
Authoritarian conservatives are, as a researcher told me, “enemies of freedom, antidemocratic, antiequality, highly prejudiced, mean-spirited, power hungry, Machiavellian and amoral.
July 14th, 2006 at 6:38 pmMA, not judgemental, just telling it like it is. I’m sorry that your proud and haughty eyes choose to avoid looking at yourself as you are.
July 14th, 2006 at 7:07 pmDear MaDASCHLE – Who did John Dean attribute the “research” to – Howard Dean??? You’re just too precious – not very original, but I’m certain you mean well….
July 14th, 2006 at 7:09 pmPlus it would give people the horribly false notion that those who disagree actually have the right to do so…
July 14th, 2006 at 7:12 pmmadashelle, you forgot hypocritical, un-Christian, and anti-American.
July 14th, 2006 at 7:14 pmWho did John Dean attribute the “research†to – Howard Dean???
For almost half a century, social scientists have been exploring authoritarianism.
Oh, and Barry Goldwater – you remember him right?
July 14th, 2006 at 7:22 pmmadashell, don’t bother… research goes over their heads :D
July 14th, 2006 at 7:25 pm#123
I display no rancor unless you conclude that providing progressive journalists with a comprehensive list of “left-wing approved†vocabulary is somehow rancorous.
Is that so? Yet you regularly resort to name-calling.
As for the attributes of Aphrodite: I have GREAT love in my heart for God, my family, my country, my community, my friends, and a wide variety of the people I meet. I believe everyone I meet is entitled to be treated courteously.
Again, is that so? Do you call the people you meet morans? Is that your definition of courtesy?
I have an intense dislike for traitors, Islamofascists, socialists, One-Worlders, murderers, rapists, child molesters and pornographers.
Yet, you are deeply in love with the Bush administration (for whom your above description is very apropos). Very curious indeed.
July 14th, 2006 at 7:54 pmThat Hardball interview reminds me of all the folks who claim W was more patriotic and put himself in more harm during Vietnam by volunteering to stay here and guard the U.S. border from attack rather than fighting in Vietnam.
I often wonder if they really believe their crap.
July 14th, 2006 at 8:00 pmPinky asks, “Again, is that so? Do you call the people you meet morans? Is that your definition of courtesy?”
*****I PROMISE if we ever met I would NEVER call you a Moran….But you can rest assured – we probably don’t have overlapping social circles….
July 14th, 2006 at 8:15 pmthis child is a fine young nazi in the making.
July 14th, 2006 at 8:25 pmWhat a dick.
July 14th, 2006 at 8:35 pmYou really don’t expect young republicans like Mr. Mattera to debate the issues, do you?
I wonder why that young man hasn’t volunteered to go off and fight the war on terrorism? Must have ‘other priorities’, I bet.
July 14th, 2006 at 9:44 pmI am a kind, warm-hearted conservative Christian. What about that do you vile, inferior, terrorism-loving, hell bound retarded dunderheads not understand?
July 14th, 2006 at 10:04 pmFresh face? Looks like every other smarmy little silver spoon punk I have ever seen.
July 14th, 2006 at 10:15 pmHey that pic on here looks like Seixon?!
July 14th, 2006 at 11:31 pmComment by mighty aphrodite — July 14, 2006
Did you not also say:
Truely you have too much hate in your heart to be a Christian. Or, does being a “conservative Christian” mean it is permissible to change the teachings of Christ to allow for hatred of your fellow man?
Becareful of what you say, MA, for each day you damn yourself with your own words.
July 15th, 2006 at 1:01 amDrina = trueblue.
Pinky = unbelievable.
July 15th, 2006 at 2:21 amDrina = trueblue.
Pinky = unbelievable.
Comment by troll alert — July 15, 2006 @ 2:21 am
troll alert = WRONG
July 15th, 2006 at 7:47 am#137 MA; you’re not neither christian nor kind. You’re about as kind and warm-hearted as a cold blooded viper. Who would Jesus hate? If you want to see someone who is vile, inferior, hell-bound and a retard-look in a mirror.
July 15th, 2006 at 8:47 amWhat is trueblue? Did I miss something?? :o
July 15th, 2006 at 10:37 amWhat is trueblue? Did I miss something?? :o
Comment by Drina — July 15, 2006 @ 10:37 am
No, you didn’t. trueblue is another poster. There are just some seriously paranoid and delusional folks who can’t accept that some people, unlike them, do not use multiple screen names. Sad, I know, but they seem to be afraid of getting their own lives and instead obsess with this sort of nonsense.
July 15th, 2006 at 11:35 amPaging Jason Mattera. Moe Howard called — he wants his DNA back.
July 15th, 2006 at 11:44 amCORRECTION:
Drina is too cute to be trueblue;but writes similar.
Mighty Aphrodite did NOT write # 137.
CORRECT:
Pinky = unbelievable.
July 15th, 2006 at 11:56 amPinky = unbelievable.
Comment by troll alert — July 15, 2006 @ 11:56 am
You’re lying again. Don’t you freaks have a commandment or a sin for that?
I’ve already told you, that when you type my name, it means I’m important enough to you to consider. In this case, since you try to attach me to every new progressive poster.
Either make comments about the thread topics, or shoo… you’re wasting bandwidth to tell lies.
July 15th, 2006 at 12:23 pmMighty Aphrodite did NOT write # 137.
Comment by troll alert — July 15, 2006 @ 11:56 am
How would you know unless you are also MA? Busted. You should worry more about yourself than me. Seriously.
Good-bye…
July 15th, 2006 at 12:25 pmWhy isn’t this dweeb over in Iraq? His organization’s website makes no bones about YAF’s total support for the war.
Oh, wait — Young Republican Dweeb is “fighting the war over here”.
July 15th, 2006 at 12:43 pm#140 – Braid Fair – I didn’t write #137 – one of your toleRANT friends thought they would project a tad. But with your opinion of me fully formed, I did not expect you to be able to differentiate. Troll Alert has a much better grasp of syntax….
July 15th, 2006 at 12:58 pmMighty Aphrodite = troll alert
July 15th, 2006 at 1:10 pmBraid Fair asks (rhetorically?) – “Did you not also say:
‘I have an intense dislike for traitors, Islamofascists, socialists, One-Worlders, murderers, rapists, child molesters and pornographers.’ Truely you have too much hate in your heart to be a Christian….”
*****Nowhere do I say “I hate…” I suppose having an “intense dislike” for someone is contrary to “progressive principles”. Which of the following are you fond of: traitors, Islamofascists, socialists, One-Worlders, murderers, rapists, child molesters and pornographers? Some people are a bit more selective in their choice of friends acquaintances and alliegances…..
#143 – #137 MA; you’re not neither christian nor kind. You’re about as kind and warm-hearted as a cold blooded viper. Who would Jesus hate? If you want to see someone who is vile, inferior, hell-bound and a retard-look in a mirror. Comment by Ho’ Chi Minh
*****Dear Mr. Minh – (That sounds sooo much better than Dear Mr Ho’!) – As I did not submit #137, I will forgive you for being so stupid – that sounds pretty kind to me….
I DO love the invocation of Jesus and the damnation to hell – all THAT in only two concise sentences. Very impressive!
July 15th, 2006 at 1:14 pmThank you M.A.
137 sounds nothing like you.
But know this; Pinky = unbelievable.
July 15th, 2006 at 1:18 pmAnd she is also posing as ”Realist” today.
She probably wrote # 137 as well.
Vile is her favorite word,and a good self description.
troll alert (the improved version 2.0)
Your software is obsolete,and you are wrong.
July 15th, 2006 at 1:30 pmHow ironic!
July 15th, 2006 at 2:01 pmConservatives who like to attack liberals by calling them commies use communist tactics in order to block the flow of information.
It seems those young commie conservatives don’t like the freedom of information, speech.
Surprised? Not really.
(the improved version 2.0) = unbelievable.
July 15th, 2006 at 2:32 pmVirtually all blog software allows IP checking. I doubt the webmaster would have time to do this, but it would be interesting. MA does sound a lot like TA.
July 15th, 2006 at 3:09 pmDoes this guy have a green card?
July 15th, 2006 at 4:23 pmFascist …is as …..Fascist does…….
# 158. Drina—Check the IP if you like,but I can assure you I am not M.A..
Notice that I first posted at 2:21 a.m.;M.A. never posts that late(or early).
If she had been posting then,surely she would have disclaimed # 137,which,clearly,she did not write.
July 15th, 2006 at 4:56 pmtroll alert (the improved version 2.0)
Your software is obsolete,and you are wrong.
Comment by troll alert — July 15, 2006 @ 1:30 pm
Further proof you are nuts as a second version comes out AFTER the original.
I don’t need to post under different aliases. But you seem to be obssessed with me no matter how much I tell you to shut up and get a life. You are in here more than I am. And at weird hours… And you only post rants that are paranoid and delusional. Never on topic.
I am only me. Unlike you, I don’t need to be anyone else. Freakshow.
July 15th, 2006 at 5:31 pm#157 – “Thank you M.A. 137 sounds nothing like you.” – troll alert
*****But, troll, wouldn’t one have to be just the tiniest bit observant in noting the nuances and vocabulary choices of others?? I work in a profession where words are the tools and tone, timbre, etc. reinforce the words. (It’s ALL in the delivery.)
When I gave the identity thief a second thought, I was QUITE flattered! The thief had no intelligent argument and the BEST he/she could do was….pose.
July 15th, 2006 at 5:31 pmIf she had been posting then,surely she would have disclaimed # 137,which,clearly,she did not write.
Comment by troll alert — July 15, 2006 @ 4:56 pm
Just because you don’t post as your MA personality at 2:00 am doesn’t mean it isn’t you…
And the only way to know someone else’s innocence 100% is if YOU are that person. You’re busted Sybil – Si Byl – Denny – E. Coli – MA
July 15th, 2006 at 5:33 pm#163 – You wish…..But that’s the hallmark of progs – wishing upon a star….but wishing with all your MIGHT and telling the same old tired lies, doesn’t make it so…
July 15th, 2006 at 5:45 pmbut wishing with all your MIGHT and telling the same old tired lies, doesn’t make it so…
Comment by mighty aphrodite — July 15, 2006 @ 5:45 pm
Hasn’t stopped you yet…
You just hate me because I see through your lies liitle boy. Whatever…
July 15th, 2006 at 5:59 pmM.A.
Pinky = unbelievable there somehow KNEW that you didn’t write # 137;see # 149.
July 15th, 2006 at 6:03 pmShe thought that she had busted you, but instead busted herself.
If she want’s to believe that we are the same person it proves her ability to decieve herself (and others).
troll alert – That poor little thing – she REALLY is deserving of our sympathy and compassion. I remember when we had a very humourous conservative who posted here, jealous progs would hijack his screen name. Proudly politically incorrect in every category, he was a heterosexual man who threw enemy sympathizers and traitors under the progressive bus. (This poster drove all of them crazy except the spinster atheist). (With the subtlety of a jack hammer, she let him know she had some excellent ideas for his reformation.) Like a few prog women I know, they are convinced their role in life is to build a “new and improved” version of the metrosexual. Funny – they’re ALL still single…. In short, ANYONE with the mental capacity of a savant with a scintilla of English comprehension could discern the tone, vocab, syntax, etc. between you and me.
July 15th, 2006 at 6:23 pmPerhaps. Your posts don’t have MA’s snobbish, uppity tone. But I don’t understand your preoccupation with questioning progressive posters’ identities here. You do realize that there are more than one or two people here who support Think Progress, right? And I don’t spend all of my free time harassing Red State’s minions for sounding identical. That’s just silly.
I think we’ve forgotten what this thread was intended to discuss. The issue here is not whether MA, TA, pinky, or unbelievable are four actual people or merely one or two with aliases. I can’t exclusively blame MA and TA for this even though her/his/their entire purpose for posting is to distract progressives from focusing on the real issue –the hypocrisy of this “pro-freedom” Republican youth group taking a page from the commies and prohibiting progressives from covering their event. The progressives here are equally at fault because we allowed these people to sabotage our discussion and distract us from more important things.
We shouldn’t be arguing back and forth over who really posted what, and we should be taking any conservative bait. As a pastor friend of mine once said, the devil himself lures us into disorder and darkness.
So, who here has gotten a response from Jason Mattera? Although his level of integrity leaves something to be desired, I’m interested in how he, and others affiliated with this organization, defend their behavior.
July 15th, 2006 at 7:23 pm# 168. Drina:
Thank you for your response.Let me begin by apologising to you for pulling you into this by my mistake.My bad.
July 16th, 2006 at 1:35 amI was wrong about you,but I am not wrong about the writing of ”Pinky”.If you had been here at T.P. enough,you would have seen what I saw a mile away.
And that’s not to mention # 137,which is clearly a forgery that I thought should be exposed.You witnessed two other posters fall for a fallacy.
We all here support T.P.. Just remember that everyone who clicks on here,for whatever reason,helps T.P..The more clicks the better for any web-site,even yours.
# 167. M.A.:
…”discern the tone,vocab,syntax,etc. between you and me.”
One would think after 5 months of my dealing with her(unbelievable/Pinky/others),being as ‘’smart” as she thinks she is,that she would know that by now.I think she likes to just say that because she thinks it will help rally her syncophants behind her.You know how she operates.You also saw two of her buddies jump on you about something you did not write.Even the great shamman.
July 16th, 2006 at 2:01 amSpeaking of tone,vocab.et al;Go read again Pinky; if that’s not her,I’ll eat my hat.But remember,she will never,ever,admit to posting under other names,but she does.
troll alert and Mighty Windbag are both psychotic.
Small minds discuss people (TA and MA), while great minds discuss ideas (liberals).
July 16th, 2006 at 11:54 amPinky is not unbelievable. Go eat your hat. The one made out of tin foil.
July 16th, 2006 at 11:57 amAgreed. So let’s get back to business… any news with this spoiled conservative kid?
July 16th, 2006 at 2:39 pm# 173 Drina: B.T.W. I liked your website;will return.
I know you don’t care,but unbelievable has used that same tired quote atleast 4 times in the last 6 weeks.
(the improved version 2.0) & Pinky = unbelievable. CHECKMATE.
July 16th, 2006 at 5:32 pmLOL@ Jay Randal. That doesn’t look a thing like me. Get a clue moron.
July 16th, 2006 at 6:57 pmTA, thanks for complimenting my website. It was a nice gesture. Despite this, however, I do have to point out that in your last few posts you’ve taken a page from Rove’s dirty Republican playbook (ie. repeat it until they believe it). You even added a “checkmate” for extra force. So how many times are you going to repeat this accusation? Another five or six, perhaps? Until you’ve psychologically manipulated everyone into thinking you’ve actually proven something?
I mean, come on already. This tactic may work on everyone to the right of Hillary Clinton, but we’re not that gullible here. If we were to assume that all similarly-sounding posts were written by the same person, the only logical conclusion we could make is that there are at most three of four conservatives surfing the entire blogosphere.
Don’t get me wrong, I do appreciate that your posts aren’t nearly as snotty as that uppity windbag MA. But you’ve really managed to do nothing here except further convince us that conservatives have nothing to say. Except, of course, when they’re spouting off, contradicting the values they claim to espouse (freedom, big tent, anti-communism, humility, etc.)
Let me guess, your response to this will be, Pinky = unbelievable, right?
July 16th, 2006 at 7:20 pmThe “new” younger generation of fundamentalists are ready to take over….be ready for the world to get a worse place to live….
July 17th, 2006 at 6:15 amNot that this will be seen, but I discovered today someone thinks my nom-de-plume “Pinky” belongs to someone else (one person posting under several different names). Sorry. Pinky is me and not whoever it is you want it to be. If my tone is similar to someone else, it’s simply because we are in agreement and share similar thought patterns on the topics.
July 17th, 2006 at 8:46 pmPinky:
July 18th, 2006 at 11:31 amYea sure,riiiight.
Why would you even want to be associated with those crude,vulgar and uneducated remarks?
[...] ThinkProgress reported recently that YAF’s spokesman Jason Mattera (who describes himself as “the surprisingly fresh face of conservatismâ€) had denied a request by a representative of our sister organization, Campus Progress, to cover the event. From Mattera’s email: Our event is open to real members of the press. You will not receive press credentials. My advice for you is to watch it on C-SPAN. If you have a problem with that decision, you can complain to the Foundation’s media department spokesman. Oh wait…that’s…me. :) [...]
August 1st, 2006 at 5:20 pm