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		<title>By: mary</title>
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		<dc:creator>mary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Aug 2006 09:24:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bush may take our breath away. Bush may take our voice away but he can never take our souls away1 Bush  may be the</description>
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		<title>By: express checkout &#62; global musings</title>
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		<dc:creator>express checkout &#62; global musings</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Aug 2006 00:57:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Jim Jones</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Jul 2006 19:59:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am so ashamed that I wasted my vote on George Bush.  What was I thinking?  Why did I let my right wing extremist, neo-conservative, neo-evangelical thinking get in the way of exercising sound personal judgment when I entered that voting booth?  

Growing up, I was led to believe that the Republican Party was a grass roots party of the people &amp; for the people.  In retrospect, it is clear that the last 3 presidents produced by the Republican Party were nothing more then the rich manâ€™s rich man hiding under the disguise of the jingoistic patriotism and the lie of conservative values.  The economic dark ages of reagonomics fleeced the middle and lower classes of this county simply to benefit the rich and wealthy and waste money on unnecessary unconstitutional military actions.  George Sr. carried that same self-serving torch.  George Jr. has quietly shifted this country back to those dark ages.  Bush inherited a strong economy and squandered that real quick. And even though 9 -11 did happen, none of bushâ€™s reckless decisions are in any way justified by that day in history.  It is clear that he never had any real salient foreign &amp; domestic policies when he became president in 2000.  Bush and Cheney have pimped the Presidency and turned the senate into an auction house for legislation to the highest bidder.  

Now we have 3 more years of neoconservative republican lies and a growing body count overseas.  When are people going to wake up to the truth that neoconservative political philosophy does not work for anyone but the rich and wealthy at the top?  When are people in the USA going to wake up to the fact that neoconservative republican political philosophy does not even cross paths with reality?   The main goal of the neoconservatives who have destroyed the soul of the Republican Party is to consolidate national wealth to the nationâ€™s top 2% wealthiest at the expense of the middle and lower classes while imperialistically occupying other nations.  This is promoted under the faÃ§ade of promoting democracy elsewhere in order to hide ugly truth regarding the real agenda.  It is imperialism but we are now trying to do it to other countries instead of the British doing it to us.

Anyone who believes George war bushâ€™s lies about promoting democracy in these Middle Eastern Islamic states is living in serious denial of reality.   Those who believe bushâ€™s lies are simply easy pickins and victims of logical fallacies.  Historians and political scholars realize that to impose such changes on another country takes decades and that is only if it seriously adopted.  Something that you are not going to make happen in an Islamic state.  Also, the very definition of democracy is not something that the United States has any claim of ownership to.  But then, if one looks at Bushâ€™s view of democracy, it more closely resembles Mexico where you have a small rich elite ruling class and no middle class.  In shortâ€¦..a plutocracy.

If we ever actually do get out of Iraq, nothing will have changed and nothing will have been gained. The American people have never been given a specific objective in Iraq or a clear definition of exactly what â€œvictory in Iraqâ€ is from the president.  Invading Iraq never had anything to do with, WMD, freeing the Iraqi people or making Americans safer and secure.  Statements about WMD, Freeing Iraq or Making America Safer are nothing more then a neo-conservative marketing spin used to hide the ugly truth and make the lies palatable to the American public and justifiable to the red necks who voted for him.  Bush likes to make statements such as â€œItâ€™s worth the priceâ€ but he never says just what exactly â€œitâ€ is.  If he really believes that all of his waste of human lives and our tax dollars are worth it, then he should put his money where his mouth is and send his little party animals to go fight in Iraq.  Isnâ€™t it strange how all these young republican youths that get interviewed claim to be for Bushâ€™s private pseudo war, but very few if any at all are willing to enlist in the military???   

The Republican Party is currently composed of a lot of chicken hawks.   Those who believe that advocating a war from afar is a sign of personal courage and strength, and that opposing a war from afar is a sign of personal cowardice and weakness.  These chicken hawks are cowardly idiots who not only advocate wars, but they also believe that their advocacy is proof of the courage which those who will actually fight the war in combat require.  You know the typeâ€¦quick to judge, quick to anger and very very slow to understand.  These republican chicken hawks will, conversely, attempt to depict those who oppose such wars as being weak, spineless and cowardly even though the war opponents are not  seeking to avoid any personal risk to themselves, but instead, are arguing against subjecting their fellow citizens to what they perceive are unnecessary dangers.  

Under the current President of the USA, we have now seen what the Republican party really stands for now that they have had about 6 or so good years of unobstructed ruling power.  Yupâ€¦theyâ€™ve had their chance to demonstrate what they are made of and we can all now see that they are not what they claim to be.  They are basically, a bunch of uncompassionate, un-conservative hypocrites.  Fake, Christian, hate mongering Taliban trash like Ann Coulter.

I for one am tired of our political party making all these huge messes that have historically fallen to Democrats to clean up.  Clinton took the 2 trillion dollar deficit economy that he inherited from our boys Reagan &amp; Bush Sr. and prospered the country into one with a surplus without overtaxing the rich, middle and lower classes.  Wake up America!  Bush created the mess in the middle east starting with his personal desire to invade Iraq.  â€œWar on Terror???â€  Wake up Americaâ€¦ you cannot wage war on a concept.  Reagan sold this lie to us with his so called war on a concept we all know as the â€œwar on drugsâ€.  This has done absolutely nothing for our country.  You cannot wage war on a concept but Bush, Cheney and most of the Republican Party hope that most Americans are stupid and impressionable enough to believe their lies.

The republican party claims to be for smaller less wasteful government but the current administration is responsible for the waste of more money, resources and human lives then any past democrat presidency.  I have a hard time sleeping at night knowing that the blood of Americans and innocent Iraqi civilians is on my hands and the hands of those who voted for Cheneyâ€¦.I mean Bush.  The real legacy of the bush administration is going to be one characterized by lots of wrongful deaths, lots of money and resources wasted, unnecessary tax increases for our children and grandchildren and the unnecessary destruction of various social programs that were never in need of fixing or eliminating to begin with.  

Thanks to bush and his power hungry cabinet who all want to control congress, the senate &amp; the Supreme Court, the USA is now a third world country hiding behind a lie of prosperity and so called society of personal ownership.  In retrospect, I seem to own less now under this administration of â€œpersonal ownershipâ€ then I did during Bill Clintonâ€™s presidency.   

Thanks to Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld and their puppets, the USA is now a huge debtor country.  The only ones with real ownership as a result of the current presidential administration are the rich and elite.  Now that the USA owes all these hundreds of millions of dollars to countries like China, Germany, Russia &amp; Japan, I wonder which language I need to learn for the day when these countries come to collectâ€¦

Respectfully,


Leroy


PS:  Farwell Partyâ€¦Iâ€™m now an independent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am so ashamed that I wasted my vote on George Bush.  What was I thinking?  Why did I let my right wing extremist, neo-conservative, neo-evangelical thinking get in the way of exercising sound personal judgment when I entered that voting booth?  </p>
<p>Growing up, I was led to believe that the Republican Party was a grass roots party of the people &amp; for the people.  In retrospect, it is clear that the last 3 presidents produced by the Republican Party were nothing more then the rich manâ€™s rich man hiding under the disguise of the jingoistic patriotism and the lie of conservative values.  The economic dark ages of reagonomics fleeced the middle and lower classes of this county simply to benefit the rich and wealthy and waste money on unnecessary unconstitutional military actions.  George Sr. carried that same self-serving torch.  George Jr. has quietly shifted this country back to those dark ages.  Bush inherited a strong economy and squandered that real quick. And even though 9 -11 did happen, none of bushâ€™s reckless decisions are in any way justified by that day in history.  It is clear that he never had any real salient foreign &amp; domestic policies when he became president in 2000.  Bush and Cheney have pimped the Presidency and turned the senate into an auction house for legislation to the highest bidder.  </p>
<p>Now we have 3 more years of neoconservative republican lies and a growing body count overseas.  When are people going to wake up to the truth that neoconservative political philosophy does not work for anyone but the rich and wealthy at the top?  When are people in the USA going to wake up to the fact that neoconservative republican political philosophy does not even cross paths with reality?   The main goal of the neoconservatives who have destroyed the soul of the Republican Party is to consolidate national wealth to the nationâ€™s top 2% wealthiest at the expense of the middle and lower classes while imperialistically occupying other nations.  This is promoted under the faÃ§ade of promoting democracy elsewhere in order to hide ugly truth regarding the real agenda.  It is imperialism but we are now trying to do it to other countries instead of the British doing it to us.</p>
<p>Anyone who believes George war bushâ€™s lies about promoting democracy in these Middle Eastern Islamic states is living in serious denial of reality.   Those who believe bushâ€™s lies are simply easy pickins and victims of logical fallacies.  Historians and political scholars realize that to impose such changes on another country takes decades and that is only if it seriously adopted.  Something that you are not going to make happen in an Islamic state.  Also, the very definition of democracy is not something that the United States has any claim of ownership to.  But then, if one looks at Bushâ€™s view of democracy, it more closely resembles Mexico where you have a small rich elite ruling class and no middle class.  In shortâ€¦..a plutocracy.</p>
<p>If we ever actually do get out of Iraq, nothing will have changed and nothing will have been gained. The American people have never been given a specific objective in Iraq or a clear definition of exactly what â€œvictory in Iraqâ€ is from the president.  Invading Iraq never had anything to do with, WMD, freeing the Iraqi people or making Americans safer and secure.  Statements about WMD, Freeing Iraq or Making America Safer are nothing more then a neo-conservative marketing spin used to hide the ugly truth and make the lies palatable to the American public and justifiable to the red necks who voted for him.  Bush likes to make statements such as â€œItâ€™s worth the priceâ€ but he never says just what exactly â€œitâ€ is.  If he really believes that all of his waste of human lives and our tax dollars are worth it, then he should put his money where his mouth is and send his little party animals to go fight in Iraq.  Isnâ€™t it strange how all these young republican youths that get interviewed claim to be for Bushâ€™s private pseudo war, but very few if any at all are willing to enlist in the military???   </p>
<p>The Republican Party is currently composed of a lot of chicken hawks.   Those who believe that advocating a war from afar is a sign of personal courage and strength, and that opposing a war from afar is a sign of personal cowardice and weakness.  These chicken hawks are cowardly idiots who not only advocate wars, but they also believe that their advocacy is proof of the courage which those who will actually fight the war in combat require.  You know the typeâ€¦quick to judge, quick to anger and very very slow to understand.  These republican chicken hawks will, conversely, attempt to depict those who oppose such wars as being weak, spineless and cowardly even though the war opponents are not  seeking to avoid any personal risk to themselves, but instead, are arguing against subjecting their fellow citizens to what they perceive are unnecessary dangers.  </p>
<p>Under the current President of the USA, we have now seen what the Republican party really stands for now that they have had about 6 or so good years of unobstructed ruling power.  Yupâ€¦theyâ€™ve had their chance to demonstrate what they are made of and we can all now see that they are not what they claim to be.  They are basically, a bunch of uncompassionate, un-conservative hypocrites.  Fake, Christian, hate mongering Taliban trash like Ann Coulter.</p>
<p>I for one am tired of our political party making all these huge messes that have historically fallen to Democrats to clean up.  Clinton took the 2 trillion dollar deficit economy that he inherited from our boys Reagan &amp; Bush Sr. and prospered the country into one with a surplus without overtaxing the rich, middle and lower classes.  Wake up America!  Bush created the mess in the middle east starting with his personal desire to invade Iraq.  â€œWar on Terror???â€  Wake up Americaâ€¦ you cannot wage war on a concept.  Reagan sold this lie to us with his so called war on a concept we all know as the â€œwar on drugsâ€.  This has done absolutely nothing for our country.  You cannot wage war on a concept but Bush, Cheney and most of the Republican Party hope that most Americans are stupid and impressionable enough to believe their lies.</p>
<p>The republican party claims to be for smaller less wasteful government but the current administration is responsible for the waste of more money, resources and human lives then any past democrat presidency.  I have a hard time sleeping at night knowing that the blood of Americans and innocent Iraqi civilians is on my hands and the hands of those who voted for Cheneyâ€¦.I mean Bush.  The real legacy of the bush administration is going to be one characterized by lots of wrongful deaths, lots of money and resources wasted, unnecessary tax increases for our children and grandchildren and the unnecessary destruction of various social programs that were never in need of fixing or eliminating to begin with.  </p>
<p>Thanks to bush and his power hungry cabinet who all want to control congress, the senate &amp; the Supreme Court, the USA is now a third world country hiding behind a lie of prosperity and so called society of personal ownership.  In retrospect, I seem to own less now under this administration of â€œpersonal ownershipâ€ then I did during Bill Clintonâ€™s presidency.   </p>
<p>Thanks to Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld and their puppets, the USA is now a huge debtor country.  The only ones with real ownership as a result of the current presidential administration are the rich and elite.  Now that the USA owes all these hundreds of millions of dollars to countries like China, Germany, Russia &amp; Japan, I wonder which language I need to learn for the day when these countries come to collectâ€¦</p>
<p>Respectfully,</p>
<p>Leroy</p>
<p>PS:  Farwell Partyâ€¦Iâ€™m now an independent.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=692215', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Rambo Dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rambo Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Jul 2006 21:09:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Neocons are all Zionists&lt;/strong&gt;

I don&#039;t understand why we contine to use this word &quot;neocon&quot;.  Everyone of the neocons that got us into the Iraq war are in fact Zionists.  And now they want to take out Iran !  Everything these neocons do is centered around making the world safe for Israel.  There loyalty is to Israel first and then America second.  That is why they don&#039;t mind using American blood to fight Israel&#039;s wars.  Thay are in fact all Zionists.

&lt;strong&gt;Why don&#039;t we just call them what they are .... Zionists ?&lt;/strong&gt;

Is it because we are afraid to use that word ? The word Zionism is very closely connected to Jews. Most Zionists are Jews. Some Christians are also Zionists. But, perhaps we fear that the Jews will come back at us with the &quot;anti-semite&quot; word.

Where did this word &quot;neocon&quot; come from ? It has only been around for a few years. While the word Zionist has been around for more that 100 years.  The word neocon is meaningless. Five years from now the word will be forgotten. And that is exactly what the neocons want. They, as Zionists, don&#039;t want to have history pin the disaster of Iraq on them. They want the history books to read &quot; the neocons caused the disaster&quot;.

At a time when we are being asked to once again shed American blood for some cause, wouldn&#039;t it be wise to actually identify those people and which countries that are pushing for this war?

I think it is quite obvious that Israel is pushing for us to make war on Iran, but wouldn&#039;t it be wise at this time to also correctly identify Israel&#039;s supporters here in our country that are pushing us into this.  Why call these people neocons when they are all Zionists?  

I guarantee that if we all start correctly identifying them by what they really are, Zionists,  they will think twice about calling for America to make the world safe for Israel.  &lt;strong&gt;And why ?  Because history will judge them for what they really are, Zionists, more loyal to Israel than to America.&lt;/strong&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Neocons are all Zionists</strong></p>
<p>I don&#8217;t understand why we contine to use this word &#8220;neocon&#8221;.  Everyone of the neocons that got us into the Iraq war are in fact Zionists.  And now they want to take out Iran !  Everything these neocons do is centered around making the world safe for Israel.  There loyalty is to Israel first and then America second.  That is why they don&#8217;t mind using American blood to fight Israel&#8217;s wars.  Thay are in fact all Zionists.</p>
<p><strong>Why don&#8217;t we just call them what they are &#8230;. Zionists ?</strong></p>
<p>Is it because we are afraid to use that word ? The word Zionism is very closely connected to Jews. Most Zionists are Jews. Some Christians are also Zionists. But, perhaps we fear that the Jews will come back at us with the &#8220;anti-semite&#8221; word.</p>
<p>Where did this word &#8220;neocon&#8221; come from ? It has only been around for a few years. While the word Zionist has been around for more that 100 years.  The word neocon is meaningless. Five years from now the word will be forgotten. And that is exactly what the neocons want. They, as Zionists, don&#8217;t want to have history pin the disaster of Iraq on them. They want the history books to read &#8221; the neocons caused the disaster&#8221;.</p>
<p>At a time when we are being asked to once again shed American blood for some cause, wouldn&#8217;t it be wise to actually identify those people and which countries that are pushing for this war?</p>
<p>I think it is quite obvious that Israel is pushing for us to make war on Iran, but wouldn&#8217;t it be wise at this time to also correctly identify Israel&#8217;s supporters here in our country that are pushing us into this.  Why call these people neocons when they are all Zionists?  </p>
<p>I guarantee that if we all start correctly identifying them by what they really are, Zionists,  they will think twice about calling for America to make the world safe for Israel.  <strong>And why ?  Because history will judge them for what they really are, Zionists, more loyal to Israel than to America.</strong><a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=688364', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: equinos</title>
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		<dc:creator>equinos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Jul 2006 00:28:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It all seems so convenient right now. All of mainstream media is for this showdown. Especially FOX of course! With mid year elections coming, what the hell will happen in this country. Why does a few &#039;global morons&#039; speak for so many billions on this planet. What can we do to get rid of these bastards who has set up a gas station in the white house. The only say we have is we pull a lever every 4 years in a little booth. Even thats going to hell..................!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It all seems so convenient right now. All of mainstream media is for this showdown. Especially FOX of course! With mid year elections coming, what the hell will happen in this country. Why does a few &#8216;global morons&#8217; speak for so many billions on this planet. What can we do to get rid of these bastards who has set up a gas station in the white house. The only say we have is we pull a lever every 4 years in a little booth. Even thats going to hell&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;!<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=687048', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Inside the USA &#187; Une guerre contre la guerre</title>
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		<dc:creator>Inside the USA &#187; Une guerre contre la guerre</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Jul 2006 23:56:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Comme d&#8217;autres qui jugent bon d&#8217;entrer en guerre contre l&#8217;Iran, à la faveur du conflit actuel entre Israël et le Hezbollah. Brrr&#8230; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Comme d&#8217;autres qui jugent bon d&#8217;entrer en guerre contre l&#8217;Iran, à la faveur du conflit actuel entre Israël et le Hezbollah. Brrr&#8230; [...]<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=685099', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Neo-Con-Trol</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/07/17/neocons-middle-east-war/comment-page-4/#comment-682765</link>
		<dc:creator>Neo-Con-Trol</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Jul 2006 22:49:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A larger continuing engagement in the middle east is actually in the national interest if we can institute creative destruction policies and remove the need for troops by replacing them with automated assault vehicles and robust nuclear earth penetrators.  By causing radical destabilizations of any regime that opposes US interests in the area we can eliminate any problem before it gets out of hand.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A larger continuing engagement in the middle east is actually in the national interest if we can institute creative destruction policies and remove the need for troops by replacing them with automated assault vehicles and robust nuclear earth penetrators.  By causing radical destabilizations of any regime that opposes US interests in the area we can eliminate any problem before it gets out of hand.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=682765', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: mighty aphrodite</title>
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		<dc:creator>mighty aphrodite</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Jul 2006 20:55:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear News Dog Ellen - Nice of you to particpate here with your crew here here at TP - and thanks for the link to NewsDogs - I can always use a prog-laugh....But I do admire your courage (!) I would probably be ill if my job were to monitor AiryAmerica or NPR daily.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear News Dog Ellen &#8211; Nice of you to particpate here with your crew here here at TP &#8211; and thanks for the link to NewsDogs &#8211; I can always use a prog-laugh&#8230;.But I do admire your courage (!) I would probably be ill if my job were to monitor AiryAmerica or NPR daily&#8230;..<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=680085', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Think Progress &#187; Kristol Suggests People of Iran Would Embrace U.S. Attack, Triggering Regime Change</title>
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		<dc:creator>Think Progress &#187; Kristol Suggests People of Iran Would Embrace U.S. Attack, Triggering Regime Change</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Jul 2006 16:15:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] This morning on Fox, Bill Kristol continued to escalate his calls for war against Iran, stating, â€œWe can try diplomacy. Iâ€™m not very hopeful about that. We have to be ready to use force.â€ Kristol claimed the people of Iran would embrace â€œthe right use of targeted military force.â€ He added that military force could &#8220;trigger changes in Iran,&#8221; causing them to embrace regime change. Watch it. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] This morning on Fox, Bill Kristol continued to escalate his calls for war against Iran, stating, â€œWe can try diplomacy. Iâ€™m not very hopeful about that. We have to be ready to use force.â€ Kristol claimed the people of Iran would embrace â€œthe right use of targeted military force.â€ He added that military force could &#8220;trigger changes in Iran,&#8221; causing them to embrace regime change. Watch it. [...]<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=679158', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: craig</title>
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		<dc:creator>craig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Jul 2006 15:57:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/4892744.stm
My point is that the escalation and disproportion has nearly always been from the Israeli side.

Comment by TerrytheTurtle â€” July 17, 2006 @ 7:06 pm ....


the bbc post then goes to say the attack was retalitaion for more than 750shells hittinh israel</description>
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My point is that the escalation and disproportion has nearly always been from the Israeli side.</p>
<p>Comment by TerrytheTurtle â€” July 17, 2006 @ 7:06 pm &#8230;.</p>
<p>the bbc post then goes to say the attack was retalitaion for more than 750shells hittinh israel<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=679109', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: joe because I know</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/07/17/neocons-middle-east-war/comment-page-4/#comment-678657</link>
		<dc:creator>joe because I know</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Jul 2006 09:30:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Peope have always taken advantage of other people. This is nothing new under the sun. The REAL reason that this is happening is because us Americans have too much pride to admit that we were completely fooled. Let&#039;s face it, they got us and got us good. If they didn&#039;t, none of this would be happening right now.

I&#039;ll take the first step and admit my gullibility...

I was completely fooled by Bush and Co.

Sincerely,
Average Joe American</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Peope have always taken advantage of other people. This is nothing new under the sun. The REAL reason that this is happening is because us Americans have too much pride to admit that we were completely fooled. Let&#8217;s face it, they got us and got us good. If they didn&#8217;t, none of this would be happening right now.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll take the first step and admit my gullibility&#8230;</p>
<p>I was completely fooled by Bush and Co.</p>
<p>Sincerely,<br />
Average Joe American<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=678657', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Kimmer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kimmer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Jul 2006 09:18:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve had it with the neocons.  It&#039;s time for them to either be hung with some stout rope for treason or be put on boats and point them AWAY from the American shoreline.  Preferably the first.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve had it with the neocons.  It&#8217;s time for them to either be hung with some stout rope for treason or be put on boats and point them AWAY from the American shoreline.  Preferably the first.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=678650', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Ellen</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/07/17/neocons-middle-east-war/comment-page-4/#comment-678477</link>
		<dc:creator>Ellen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Jul 2006 05:48:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>FOX News is also echoing these sentiments. Surprise, surprise, surprise!

http://www.newshounds.us/2006/07/19/fox_news_uses_middle_east_war_as_opportunity_to_resurrect_neocon_agenda.php</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FOX News is also echoing these sentiments. Surprise, surprise, surprise!</p>
<p><a href="http://www.newshounds.us/2006/07/19/fox_news_uses_middle_east_war_as_opportunity_to_resurrect_neocon_agenda.php" rel="nofollow">http://www.newshounds.us/2006/07/19/fox_news_uses_middle_east_war_as_opportunity_to_resurrect_neocon_agenda.php</a><a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=678477', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: mighty aphrodite</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/07/17/neocons-middle-east-war/comment-page-4/#comment-678314</link>
		<dc:creator>mighty aphrodite</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Jul 2006 03:16:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Fat Papa - How kind of you to demonstrate that a mind is a terrible thing to waste!!  Ask youself the following question - and if necessary take truth serum before divulging your answer. If Hamas and Hezbollah were disarmed what would the result be?  More dead Arabs and Palestinians? NO.  On the other hand, if Israel were to disarm, Israel would be destroyed by a barbaric Islamofascist culture which accepts no compromise ...point....match....SET.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Fat Papa &#8211; How kind of you to demonstrate that a mind is a terrible thing to waste!!  Ask youself the following question &#8211; and if necessary take truth serum before divulging your answer. If Hamas and Hezbollah were disarmed what would the result be?  More dead Arabs and Palestinians? NO.  On the other hand, if Israel were to disarm, Israel would be destroyed by a barbaric Islamofascist culture which accepts no compromise &#8230;point&#8230;.match&#8230;.SET.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=678314', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: big papa</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/07/17/neocons-middle-east-war/comment-page-4/#comment-677875</link>
		<dc:creator>big papa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Jul 2006 21:48:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;I DO feel sorry for the poor Lebanese.&lt;/em&gt; 

Comment by mighty aphrodite #136

&lt;strong&gt;Puny,

...you had me going (thinking you could possibly be human) for a minute there...

...then your true colors came thru...

...why do you racist right wing troglodytes choose to ignore HISTORY?

...What came first...

...the state of Israel or Hezbollah?

...manifest destiny or Hezbollah?

...colonialism or Hezbollah?...

...exploitation of ME resources or Hezbollah?...

...WASP/Zionist encroachment on Muslim Holy Lands or Hezbollah?&lt;/strong&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>I DO feel sorry for the poor Lebanese.</em> </p>
<p>Comment by mighty aphrodite #136</p>
<p><strong>Puny,</p>
<p>&#8230;you had me going (thinking you could possibly be human) for a minute there&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8230;then your true colors came thru&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8230;why do you racist right wing troglodytes choose to ignore HISTORY?</p>
<p>&#8230;What came first&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8230;the state of Israel or Hezbollah?</p>
<p>&#8230;manifest destiny or Hezbollah?</p>
<p>&#8230;colonialism or Hezbollah?&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8230;exploitation of ME resources or Hezbollah?&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8230;WASP/Zionist encroachment on Muslim Holy Lands or Hezbollah?</strong><a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=677875', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: 9lVX</title>
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		<dc:creator>9lVX</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Jul 2006 21:19:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I see some people think &quot;voting Democrat&quot; is going to solve everything... it will not.
The Democrats are just as cozy with Israel as the Repubs. Look at Hilary spouting
&quot;All Americans support Israel&quot;. Speak for yourself you lying Israeli-firster.

We need people who speak for AMERICA FIRST.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I see some people think &#8220;voting Democrat&#8221; is going to solve everything&#8230; it will not.<br />
The Democrats are just as cozy with Israel as the Repubs. Look at Hilary spouting<br />
&#8220;All Americans support Israel&#8221;. Speak for yourself you lying Israeli-firster.</p>
<p>We need people who speak for AMERICA FIRST.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=677782', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: George Tralhorn</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/07/17/neocons-middle-east-war/comment-page-4/#comment-677753</link>
		<dc:creator>George Tralhorn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Jul 2006 21:12:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At this stage, Israel is a distraction.  As Israel attacks her neighbors, the US erodes rights at home.
While Israel drops bombs, the US steals private land, pressures Amazon to drop the book &quot;America Deceived&quot; by E.A. Blayre III and illegally wire-taps all phones.
Then the US will attack Iran sending the entire Middle East into conflict.
Mix in another false-flag attack on the US (like 9/11) and the public will clamour for One World Gov&#039;t.
All courtesy of PNAC.
Support indy media like TP
Final link (before Google Books is forced to drop the book):
http://www.iuniverse.com/bookstore/book_detail.asp?&amp;isbn=0-595-38523-0</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At this stage, Israel is a distraction.  As Israel attacks her neighbors, the US erodes rights at home.<br />
While Israel drops bombs, the US steals private land, pressures Amazon to drop the book &#8220;America Deceived&#8221; by E.A. Blayre III and illegally wire-taps all phones.<br />
Then the US will attack Iran sending the entire Middle East into conflict.<br />
Mix in another false-flag attack on the US (like 9/11) and the public will clamour for One World Gov&#8217;t.<br />
All courtesy of PNAC.<br />
Support indy media like TP<br />
Final link (before Google Books is forced to drop the book):<br />
<a href="http://www.iuniverse.com/bookstore/book_detail.asp?&amp;isbn=0-595-38523-0" rel="nofollow">http://www.iuniverse.com/bookstore/book_detail.asp?&amp;isbn=0-595-38523-0</a><a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=677753', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: The Liberal Avenger &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Neocons Ecstatic About Middle East Violence</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/07/17/neocons-middle-east-war/comment-page-4/#comment-676960</link>
		<dc:creator>The Liberal Avenger &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Neocons Ecstatic About Middle East Violence</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Jul 2006 15:12:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Joseph Circione today takes up the argument that escalating regional violence in the Middle East serves neoconservative interests.   Perle has already weighed in in a June 25 Washington Post editorial decrying Bush’s “ignominious retreat” on Iran. He, too, wants war. Newt Gingrich on Meet the Press this Sunday said we were already in World War III and that the US needed to take direct action against North Korea and Iran. Less well known pundits have flooded cable news and talk radio this weekend beating the war drums. Meanwhile, David Wurmser is ensconced in Vice-President Cheney’s office, and his neoconservative colleague Elliot Abrams (the convicted Iran-Contra felon who urged war with Iraq in a 1998 letter to President Bill Clinton) directs Middle East policy on the National Security Council staff. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Joseph Circione today takes up the argument that escalating regional violence in the Middle East serves neoconservative interests.   Perle has already weighed in in a June 25 Washington Post editorial decrying Bush’s “ignominious retreat” on Iran. He, too, wants war. Newt Gingrich on Meet the Press this Sunday said we were already in World War III and that the US needed to take direct action against North Korea and Iran. Less well known pundits have flooded cable news and talk radio this weekend beating the war drums. Meanwhile, David Wurmser is ensconced in Vice-President Cheney’s office, and his neoconservative colleague Elliot Abrams (the convicted Iran-Contra felon who urged war with Iraq in a 1998 letter to President Bill Clinton) directs Middle East policy on the National Security Council staff. [...]<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=676960', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Think Progress &#187; George Will vs. William Kristol.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Think Progress &#187; George Will vs. William Kristol.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Jul 2006 12:52:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] In today&#8217;s column, Will slams Kristol&#8217;s latest war-mongering and answers Kristol&#8217;s question, &#8220;Why wait&#8221; to bomb Iran?: &#8220;Perhaps because the U.S. military has enough on its plate in the deteriorating wars in Afghanistan and Iraq, which both border Iran. And perhaps because containment, although of uncertain success, did work against Stalin and his successors, and might be preferable to a war against a nation much larger and more formidable than Iraq.&#8221; Steve Clemons has more.&#160;  8:22 am &#124; Comment&#160;(2) [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] In today&#8217;s column, Will slams Kristol&#8217;s latest war-mongering and answers Kristol&#8217;s question, &#8220;Why wait&#8221; to bomb Iran?: &#8220;Perhaps because the U.S. military has enough on its plate in the deteriorating wars in Afghanistan and Iraq, which both border Iran. And perhaps because containment, although of uncertain success, did work against Stalin and his successors, and might be preferable to a war against a nation much larger and more formidable than Iraq.&#8221; Steve Clemons has more.&nbsp;  8:22 am | Comment&nbsp;(2) [...]<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=676779', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Passer-by</title>
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		<dc:creator>Passer-by</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Jul 2006 11:47:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just an observation; the one called Mighty Moron actually represents the majority of people in America who have become so desensitized that indifference has actually turned into outright malice. It is so damn funny how predictably wrong they are.

Point to ponder: ignorance-&gt;desensitization-&gt;stupid maliciousness.

Why go towards maliciousness and not towards ultimate stupidity (vegetative state)?

Pretty damn scary.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just an observation; the one called Mighty Moron actually represents the majority of people in America who have become so desensitized that indifference has actually turned into outright malice. It is so damn funny how predictably wrong they are.</p>
<p>Point to ponder: ignorance-&gt;desensitization-&gt;stupid maliciousness.</p>
<p>Why go towards maliciousness and not towards ultimate stupidity (vegetative state)?</p>
<p>Pretty damn scary.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=676670', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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