Brownback Holds Up Drawing Of Embryo, Asks ‘Are You Going To Kill Me?’
Brownback Holds Up Drawing Of Embryo, Asks ‘Are You Going To Kill Me?’
Sen. Sam Brownback (R-KS) is leading the opposition to the H.R. 810, the Stem Cell Research Enhancement Act. Yesterday, during debate on the bill, he held up a picture of an embryo drawn by a 7-year-old girl. Relaying a conversation with the girl’s mother, Brownback said the embryo was asking the Senate, “Are you going to kill me?” Watch it:
Brownback is misleading. The embryos funded by H.R. 810 were “created for the purposes of in vitro fertilization…which are spare or in excess of clinical need and in every single case are slated for medical waste.†Only about 10 percent of embryos are adopted — the rest are disposed of. If H.R. 810 passes, they will instead be used to develop potentially live-saving cures for millions of people.
Full transcript:
We’re talking about destroying the youngest of human lives for research purposes. I want to show a quick picture of that so people get the idea, and I know people do, but it’s just, it’s important to remember we all started out looking like this. Even the presiding officer, as handsome as he is, he looked like this at one point in time, just a little clump of cells, that was him.
This is a particular person, young girl named Hannah that I just met with a few hours ago. This was when she was adopted as a frozen embryo. This shows her kind of development taking place. You destroy her here, you don’t get her here. That’s key. She was called a snowflake, adopted frozen embryos. I hope some people that are maybe watching or hear about this, if they have frozen embryos, human embryos, that they consider putting them up for adoption, because a number of people want to adopt them. The couple that adopted Hannah had infertility problems themselves, could not conceive, IVF, otherwise, and so adopted her as a snowflake, as a frozen embryo, implanted, and now we’ve got Hannah. Hannah is quite, I guess you would say out of the mouths of babes, children comes great wisdom.
This is a chart she did last year when she was in Washington, talking, when the House was considering legislation, the same legislation, she did this chart, this letter that kids write — my kids write — I love them. She said, this is Hannah, snowflake, “We’re kids. I love you.†And then she draws three pictures down here below. This is her smiling because she got adopted and she’s here. Here is another frozen embryo — these are embryos — that’s sad because he’s still sitting in a frozen state and then here’s one that as she explains is saying “What, are you going to kill me?†This was her explanation to her mother that just gave this chart to me. I hope people really would think about that. This is not just a clump of tissue. This is not just a group of a few cells. This is not a hair follicle. This is not fingernail. You know, this is Hannah. And if nurtured, grows to be just this beautiful child, and we got a lot of them, of frozen embryos. And I hope people will consider put putting them up for adoption, because there’s a lot of people that want to adopt them.
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Well done. Brainwash the kids to republican herd-thinking from kindergarden.
/Sarcasm Off
Well, seriously now, the drawing has been done by Brownback himself, isn't?
July 18th, 2006 at 12:59 pmdon't be fooled, that is his drawing of football plays from high school, he just trotted it out for this and added a couple things. look close, you can see where he signed it
July 18th, 2006 at 1:01 pmThats just disgusting.
July 18th, 2006 at 1:04 pmThis only goes to prove that there's not much difference between the way a conservative looks at the world and the way a seven-year-old does,
July 18th, 2006 at 1:05 pm#2 I'm sure. He thought for a moment to make a PowerPoint presentation, but then said himself "Why plug the computer? It has been unplugged since I entered the office, years ago. And I'm not sure how to plug it, anyways."
July 18th, 2006 at 1:05 pmWhat 7 year old can even wrap their brain around the concept of what an embryo is?
July 18th, 2006 at 1:05 pmRemember the band Devo - which stood for de-evolution - well now I realize they were 25 years before their time.
July 18th, 2006 at 1:07 pmThis is no worse than Ralph Reed getting the Christian vote.
July 18th, 2006 at 1:08 pmIf a seven year children is far more convincing than a Republican Senator, maybe a "No Senator Left Behind" program would be of help.
July 18th, 2006 at 1:08 pmThen Republicans should band MASTURBATION next, since sperm is also a segment that makes up life.
The Republicans are resorting to getting the views of CHILDREN to make their case? That is what they have to go on? "Look... this is what the KID thinks about it, so the kid has to be RIGHT!!"
When these Republicans are kicked out of office, they should be hired by comedy groups, because this stuff if just hillarious.
July 18th, 2006 at 1:09 pmall this does is make me furious at the people who vote for these idiots. Jeezus!
July 18th, 2006 at 1:11 pmI bet you that little girl is Karl Rove.......
July 18th, 2006 at 1:12 pmWhy let facts get in the way of a campaign? The sheeple will follow .... baaaaaaaaaaaaa
July 18th, 2006 at 1:12 pmHmmmm... even scratching and bathing makes loose skin cells to drop. The next presentation will be "Scratchers and bathers go to hell", with a drawing done by unwashed kid? And the motto? "Soap, the hidden ally of Satan?"
July 18th, 2006 at 1:12 pmTypical Republican attitude...they care about you until your born. After that you're on your own, especially if you are less than affluent.
July 18th, 2006 at 1:19 pmhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lies_and_the_Lying_Liars_Who_Tell_Them
July 18th, 2006 at 1:21 pmBrownnback needs to be put down faster than Barbaro.
July 18th, 2006 at 1:21 pmAnd so, it has come to this.
Just when you thought the the Repugnicans couldn't possibly stoop any lower, Senator Sam Brownback trots out and lowers the bar by several miles.
This sort of bullshit should be flat-out ILLEGAL. Not only is the pathetically transparent appeal to emotion reprehensible in and of itself, the fact remains that these embryos are destined for the sink drain anyway.
Brownback is jumping on this issue to isue a factually incorrect appeal to emotion to ingratiate himself in the eyes of his ignorant fundie base, and for this, he ought to be flogged with his easel.
July 18th, 2006 at 1:23 pmThis guy is a big brown bacon-strip on the tighty whities of humanity and needs to be aborted.
July 18th, 2006 at 1:26 pmCriticize Brownback all you want, at least he's noit lying about those on the other side of the debate.
July 18th, 2006 at 1:28 pm#20 Criticize Brownback all you want, at least he’s noit lying about those on the other side of the debate.
Comment by Steven Ertelt — July 18, 2006 @ 1:28 pm
And your impartial source is... from a pro-life site?
July 18th, 2006 at 1:31 pmIsn't his name some kind of racial slur or something? Or homosexual scatalogical reference?
"I got brownbacked!"
/sorry...
As if pro-lifers weren't prone to lying or KILLING. Thanks for the counterpoint Stevie.
July 18th, 2006 at 1:34 pm"Then Republicans should ban MASTURBATION next, since sperm is also a segment that makes up life."
July 18th, 2006 at 1:35 pmThink of all the millions one man can create!! What waste! How about nocturnal emissions? Lets make sure the Police are monitoring those pubescent males who have wet dreams. We can't go around destroying life like that!
He just made me realize... the world IS flat and so is his brain.
July 18th, 2006 at 1:35 pmAnybody who uses a child to argue for them in this complex, emotionally charged debate is committing child abuse IMO. That includes the parent who had to have discussed it with the child in the first place. What's next, children's views on the middle east conflicts, prostitution, impeachment, gay marriage?
July 18th, 2006 at 1:36 pmWhy is Dr. David Prentice the only professional that is ever quoted as having this view? Could it be because they can't find anyone else who agrees with him?
Here, read this interesting letter that three researchers wrote to Science magazine about the issue:
But I am guessing that you will hold the view that these scientists are just pushing their foetus slaughtering agenda on the general public.
July 18th, 2006 at 1:37 pmHey, Prentice has credibility! The same as a witch doctor, but credibility at all...
July 18th, 2006 at 1:39 pmIf there are people lined up to adopt these embryos, then certainly they should have first choice. The problem is no one is lining up to adopt embryos or even real children.
July 18th, 2006 at 1:40 pmBrownnback needs to be put down faster than Barbaro.
Comment by Badmoodman — July 18, 2006 @ 1:21 pm
a weird, and unfortunate for Barbaro, comment...
July 18th, 2006 at 1:42 pmi am hearing that Barbaro is on the mend, looking forward to his future as a stallion...
not what i would want for brownback, especially...
yeah, Brownback doesn't lie, right
http://mediamatters.org/items/200408310014
http://www.theantisam.com/archives/2006/01/08/brownback-lies-about-abramoff-scandal/
July 18th, 2006 at 1:42 pmCan someone with PhotoShop and free time PhotoShop a crusty sock into that picture?
July 18th, 2006 at 1:43 pmTo date, current research on embryonic stem cells has resulted in no promising results. Ironically, a leading pro-ESCR advocate is the Juvenile Diabetes Foundation, but ESCR research has failed in fighting this disease.
Past supporters of this controversial research are now speaking out about the false hype surrounding the results. The San Francisco Chronicle recently reported that doubters are coming out of the woodwork. Paul Billings, who studied stem cells’ effects and co-founded a stem cell bank, said that hopes for major new medical treatments based on embryonic stem cells are “very remoteâ€. “The problems are so complex that we’re not likely to be able to tackle them with the stem cell gambit in the foreseeable future.â€
Researchers in China met with a disastrous result. Fetal tissue injected into a patient’s brain produced temporary improvement, but within two years the patient developed a brain tumor and died. An autopsy revealed that the fetal cells had taken root, but had then metamorphed into other types of human tissue – hair, skin and bone. These grew into the tumor, which killed the patient.
A devastating result occurred at Columbia University’s College of Physicians and Surgeons, and was published in the New England Journal of Medicine.
In some of the patients, the implanted embryonic cells apparently grew too well, churning out so much of a chemical that controls movement that they writhed and jerked uncontrollably. Dr. Paul E. Greene called the uncontrollable movements developed by some patients as “absolutely devastating.†He said, “They chew constantly, their fingers go up and down, their writs flex and distend. It’s a real nightmare. And we can’t selectively turn it off. No more fetal transplants. We are absolutely and adamantly convinced that this should be considered for research only.â€
In stark contrast to the failures of embryonic stem cell research, the future looks very promising for treatment with adult stem cells.
The following are examples of research breakthroughs with adult stem cells. Please note that this list is only a sampling.
Researchers at Harvard Medical School say adult stem cells may eliminate the need for embryonic ones. The researchers experienced a permanent reversal of Type 1 diabetes in mice by killing the cells responsible for the diabetes. The animals’ adult stem cells took over and regenerated missing cells needed to produce insulin and eliminate the disease. The results hold promise for rheumatoid arthritis, multiple sclerosis, lupus and more than 50 other ailments.
At the University of Texas MD Anderson Cancer Center in Houston, a man with a rare, potentially fatal skin disorder that was so severe that he could no longer eat, is now symptom-free after receiving a transplant of his own adult stem cells.
Doctors at Northwestern Memorial Hospital in Chicago extracted the adult stem cells from the blood of two Crohn’s patients and successfully used them to rebuild their faulty immune systems.
Dr. Edward Holland of the Northern Kentucky Eye Laser Center in the greater Cincinnati metropolitan area, is using adult stem cell transplants as part of a treatment to dramatically improve the eyesight of his patients.
New research in the UK on rats indicates that transplants of adult stem cells can help stroke victims regain movement, senses and understanding. They also show that the adult cells were more effective than cells from aborted babies.
The Albert Einstein College of Medicine in New York came to similar conclusions.
A study by the Institute for Stem Cell Research in Milan, Italy showed that certain cells from the brains of adult rats can be used to generate muscular tissue.
Researchers at the University of South Florida in Tampa have found that adult stem cells from the umbilical cord blood may be able to help repair damaged brain tissue after a stroke.
Scientists at the University of Medicine and Dentistry of NJ have found that bone marrow cells may be converted into replacement nerve cells, able to treat brain and nerve injuries. Dr. Ira Black and his team were able to convert 80% of the bone marrow cells into nerve cells.
Forbes Magazine provided additional confirmation that adult stem cell research is far more successful that embryonic stem cell experimentation. In their September 3, 2001 issue, page 36, they quoted an article printed in the Wall Street Journal Europe by Richard Miniter.
“Of the 15 US biotech companies solely devoted to developing cures using stem cells, only two focus on embryos. Embryo stem cell research is at the drawing-board stage – not for lack of funds but for lack of promising research to finance. Venture capitalists have no agenda beyond making money; if they see embryo projects that are likely to bear fruit over the next five to seven years – the usual VC time horizon – they will fund them. That the market is speaking so loudly against embryo stem cell research probably explains why embryo researchers are so eager to reverse the ban on government funding.â€
Diane Irving, Ph.D., a former professor of biology at Georgetown University and former biochemist with the National Cancer Institute, said, “I have argued that adult stem cells are better because they are closer to the stage of differentiation than embryonic or fetal cells – therefore they do not have as long a distance to travel differentiation-wise as the younger cells. Therefore there is far less of a chance for genetic errors to be accumulated in the implanted cells and less side effects for the patient to deal with.â€
Cloning holds even less promise for success than research with embryonic stem cells does. It took 277 attempts to get Dolly. Scientists estimate an overall failure rate for cloning farm animals is 95% or greater. One shudders to think how many living human embryos will be sacrificed in attempts to clone humans.
We should listen to the advice of a country that has, in the past, crossed the moral line of human experimentation. Johannes Rau, President of Germany, vehemently argued against cloning. “Eugenics, euthanasia and selection are labels that are linked to bad memories in Germany. Where human dignity if affected, economic arguments do not count.â€
July 18th, 2006 at 1:43 pm#27 ...unfortunely, Steven Ertelt has NO credibility at all.
And, about Here, read this interesting letter that three researchers wrote to Science magazine about the issue:...
Who says that the letter wasn't rejected immediately after being published? I can write too a letter saying that the world is flat, but nobody would agree with me... well, at least only 32% would agree, but is a minority...
July 18th, 2006 at 1:48 pmdon't have time to respond to each point in the piece you pasted in (In the Middle), but here is one response on adult v. embryonic stem cells--this is from the National Institutes of Health website, a Q&A section of their site
"Why not use adult stem cells instead of using human embryonic stem cells in research?
July 18th, 2006 at 1:49 pmHuman embryonic stem cells are thought to have much greater developmental potential than adult stem cells. This means that embryonic stem cells may be pluripotent—that is, able to give rise to cells found in all tissues of the embryo except for germ cells rather than being merely multipotent—restricted to specific subpopulations of cell types, as adult stem cells are thought to be."
just google that first paragraph/sentence of the comment by
"NOT in the middle, obviously"... go ahead... see what you get...
imagine that...
July 18th, 2006 at 1:53 pmBush's 2006 base-baiting, red meat strategy could well backfire when it comes to stem cell research. Unlike other aspects of the "fags, flags and fetuses" program contained in the Republicans' so called "American Values Agenda," stem cell research bans don't enjoy much support among either the conservative chattering classes or Americans overall.
For more on why Bush's veto could be just what the doctor ordered for Democrats, see:
July 18th, 2006 at 1:59 pm"Bush Stem Cell Veto Threat is Dems' Opportunity."
#36 Katy, my very first result searching in Yahoo is a site called "www.lifeissues.org". It's a pro-life site. There is a BIG BANNER saying "Life Issues institute, Inc." (Inc. means a for-profit, isn't?). Just under the title the company motto "Serving the Educational Needs of the Pro-Life Movement".
Oooohh. Still no independant source...
July 18th, 2006 at 2:00 pmA fu*king joke. The greatest deliberative body in the world, my ass. Nobody listens to anybody and, due to pure partisan political reasons, how each Representative is going to vote on an issue is set in stone long before the subject even comes up for a vote. I don’t even know why they bother with these tax-payer-money-wasting shenanigans.
This would be hilarious if this state of politics in our country was not so destructive for the country.
July 18th, 2006 at 2:00 pm38 Evil Spaniard
July 18th, 2006 at 2:02 pmActually "Inc" doesn't mean for profit. But you got the rest right.
WTF - katy - I just googled it. Why am I shocked?
July 18th, 2006 at 2:09 pmDid he use baby talk while making the presentation?
July 18th, 2006 at 2:10 pmI think we just answered Thomas Franks' question, "What's the matter with Kansas?"
July 18th, 2006 at 2:10 pmEvery Progressive should respond by saying people who oppose stem cell research don't support the troops, after all, medical advancements from stem cell research could help a soldier regain his eyesight, or her mental faculties, or help him walk again, etc.
"A conservative is a man who's too cowardly to fight and too fat to run." Elbert Hubbard
July 18th, 2006 at 2:10 pmCan Hannah draw an unloved, unwanted, unkempt child sitting in a project apartment all day because her mother can't afford childcare, with rats scurrying around while her mother and or father is out earning minimum wage ?
July 18th, 2006 at 2:13 pm#35
I am all for stem cell research! Just not the embyonic kind. This is just a variation of the abortion issue facing this country. Your side will lose, trust me. You have no idea what is right and wrong in the eyes of God. Why should the government fund research that I am morally opposed to?
July 18th, 2006 at 2:13 pmyep, spaniard... that and freeperville, and a blog called holyfool...
great sources...
the 3 scholarly articles linked, contain some of those words, but seem to point in the opposite direction than, i'd guess, not-in-the-middle intended...
July 18th, 2006 at 2:14 pmComment by In the Middle — July 18, 2006 @ 2:13 pm
Why shouldn't the governmant support research that I am for?
July 18th, 2006 at 2:16 pmYou have no idea what is right and wrong in the eyes of God.
Comment by In the Middle — July 18, 2006 @ 2:13 pm
and neither do you so stop pretending.
July 18th, 2006 at 2:17 pmit is absolutely NOT any kind of variation of any abortion issue...
July 18th, 2006 at 2:17 pmperiod.
Yes, or little Hannah can draw too an orphaned or abbandoned child who turns 18 years old in an orphanage without having being adopted never because he is not cute, or smart enough... And hearing all those Republicans talking about personal responsability. But no wonder if some day he gets a gun and enters a McDonalds...
July 18th, 2006 at 2:17 pmYou have no idea what is right and wrong in the eyes of God.
Comment by In the Middle — July 18, 2006 @ 2:13 pm
that's it... no more for this one... a very lost cause...
July 18th, 2006 at 2:20 pm#55
I'm sure he's in the 40% of Americans who think the Rapture is about to happen, therefore there is no need to cure anymore diseases.
July 18th, 2006 at 2:25 pmYou have no idea what is right and wrong in the eyes of God.
Comment by In the Middle
By this statement we are meant to assume that you think you know what god thinks. Hmm? You little sinner. Placing yourself at the level of god. I think if he are a vengeful god he will smite thee.
July 18th, 2006 at 2:29 pm#47Why should the government fund research that I am morally opposed to?
July 18th, 2006 at 2:29 pmWhy should the govt support a war that I am morally opposed to???Killing innocent men & women?????? YOu peeps only care about a fetus, and when the kid is born, well fend for yourself kiddo. Better yet, join the military--we'll take good care of you!
My tax dollars, in the form of a bomb, just landed on some kid's head today in Southern Lebanon. American Arms Dealers."Are you going to kill me"?
July 18th, 2006 at 2:29 pm#47: "You have no idea what is right and wrong in the eyes of God. Why should the government fund research that I am morally opposed to?"
Listen to yourself! Please?
Assuming the highly debatable and impossible to prove assumption that there is in fact a God, who gets to decide what God would consider right or wrong? You? Pat Robertson? I?
July 18th, 2006 at 2:32 pmThis man is an end of times pretend christian zionist. Consider the source of the arguement. Eggs being used would be tossed out otherwise.
July 18th, 2006 at 2:33 pm#10
Masturbation will be made illegal soon enough you disgusting pigs.
For you and your ilk to waste what God has given you to make good Christian Soldiers is morally and ethically as wrong as killing babies and scrambling future babies into medicine so you can get yourself another un-needed erection.
You are all going to meet the Lord one day and he will not be pleased.
July 18th, 2006 at 2:38 pm#60 ...who gets to decide what God would consider right or wrong?
I read His word every day.
I know what He wants.
He does not want you but He'd like me to speak with your children one day.
July 18th, 2006 at 2:40 pmI have an idea on how to solve this whole damn issue. Now keep in mind that this idea is in the early stages so it has some rough edges. But basically we, as a country, generate a registry on whether or not each individual is for or against stem cell research. Maybe we sign it when we reach 18 or get our license or social security card. If you are against it then your tax dollars don't go toward the research and if you are for the research then your tax dollars go towards the research. Also, and most importantly, if you are against it and you develop a disease and the stem cell research has produced a cure for this disease then unfortunately you are not entitled to use the cure unless you pay all that you would've paid in taxes. And, obviously, if you signed in favor then you get the cure. Again, some rough edges but fairly simple. KEEP IT SIMPLE
July 18th, 2006 at 2:43 pmoh please stay away from my children. It's bad enough I have to protect them from the military recruiters scouting mall parking lots
July 18th, 2006 at 2:43 pmno, little embryo, we're not going to kill you. we'll wait until you are born and then let you die of failed Republican policies.
July 18th, 2006 at 2:45 pmhey Bar - can you provide any evidence of what you are reading is the word of a diety?
No, we both know you cannot. So stop making such ludacris claims.
Have you ever heard the "Diamond in the back yard" analogy?
A guy and his family digs in his back yard every sunday as if looking for something. One day a neighbor asks why - he says "we believe there is a giant diamond burried somewhere under our back yard, and every sunday we dig for it." The neighbor then asks him why he thinks that and he answers "I have faith that there is a giant diamond burried in my back yard."
What would most people consider this person? even most religious people like yourself - insane. You want to know how different that is than you and your ludacris claims? No different.
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July 18th, 2006 at 2:48 pmHe's lying, and he takes bribes.
July 18th, 2006 at 2:49 pm#47: “You have no idea what is right and wrong in the eyes of God. Why should the government fund research that I am morally opposed to?â€
Render unto Caesar what is Caesar's and to God what is God's. Once your tax dollars go to the government, you have no moral connection to it and are, therefore, blameless if it is used for what you consider to be immoral purposes. That does not mean you shouldn't voice your opposition but it needs to be on socially moral , not religious moral grounds. If you believe that God is the ultimate source of right and wrong, then, you should also leave the judgment to Him.
July 18th, 2006 at 2:50 pmDoes anyone know where I can get a limited edition signed print? I'd like it signed by Brownback and the artist (Karl Rove). Thanks.
July 18th, 2006 at 2:52 pmwell, i took "bar" as sarcasm... hmm...
but, for Tom Ro, and others who may have missed it:
Stem Cell Research Living Will
July 18th, 2006 at 2:54 pmI read His word every day.
I know what He wants.
He does not want you but He’d like me to speak with your children one day.
Comment by Bar — July 18, 2006 @ 2:40 pm
The Bible was written by men, who borrowed heavily from earlier pagan religions. You should head over to Rapture Ready I'm sure they'd love to hear form you. You can all engage in a religious circle jerk over how much God loves you and will soon reign fiery destruction on.
Dont get LEFT BEHIND!
July 18th, 2006 at 2:56 pmI, too, am against making babies so that we can experiment on them.
July 18th, 2006 at 3:00 pmI'm going to pound my pud onto a piece of stationary paper,let it dry and mail it to Brownbutt.I'm going to let the million or so spermbabies dry on the paper first ,then outline them with a majic marker and ask that clown BrownButt to pray for them! The worlds exploding, and that nitwit is worried about some jism, frozen in a testube,what a moron!
July 18th, 2006 at 3:03 pmWhat really amazes me is that there are millions of people just like him!
Call Mr. Brownback, I believe I may have wiped a colony of unborn children off my stomach this morning.
July 18th, 2006 at 3:09 pmOh my god! This man is a complete and clueless asshole.
I am completely digusted, how can Brownback be so simple?
July 18th, 2006 at 3:15 pmFor you and your ilk to waste what God has given you...
Comment by Bar — July 18, 2006 @ 2:38 pm
You mean like that brain you're not putting to much use?
July 18th, 2006 at 3:15 pmBar - you come near my kid and you will be meeting "Him" sooner than you might like!!!
July 18th, 2006 at 3:19 pmI'll bet Sexion, Chase, Mighty worked weeks on that drawing. So let's cut em some slack, remember we're dealing with mental cases.
July 18th, 2006 at 3:22 pmThese Christnazis make me wretch. They idolize their ancient voodoo diety and claim their "high morals" denegrating science in turn. OK, Christies, if you disdain science so much including stem cell research, then totally remove yourselves from using any of the technology, medical or otherwise, that science has provided you. Remember vaccines came from animal and human research and experiment. Health and medical technology is steeped in pioneers who researched under possible penalty and even death under Church edicts. Stem Cell research is an extension of that pioneering ideal. Christies have held back man's progress at least 1000 years (Carl Sagan) Get out of our way. You Christies have your Taliban world, but like DEVO says, "What a beautiful world, for you.... not ME!".
July 18th, 2006 at 3:22 pmLOL. Talk about moronic, he's right up there with Bush and Santorum.
July 18th, 2006 at 3:22 pmThere are Jews in the world.
There are Buddhists.
There are Hindus and Mormons, and then
There are those that follow Mohammed, but
I've never been one of them.
I'm a Roman Catholic,
And have been since before I was born,
And the one thing they say about Catholics is:
They'll take you as soon as you're warm.
You don't have to be a six-footer.
You don't have to have a great brain.
You don't have to have any clothes on. You're
A Catholic the moment Dad came,
Because
Every sperm is sacred.
Every sperm is great.
If a sperm is wasted,
God gets quite irate.
CHILDREN:
Every sperm is sacred.
Every sperm is great.
If a sperm is wasted,
God gets quite irate.
continued below...
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GIRL:
Let the heathen spill theirs
On the dusty ground.
God shall make them pay for
Each sperm that can't be found.
CHILDREN:
Every sperm is wanted.
Every sperm is good.
Every sperm is needed
In your neighbourhood.
MUM:
Hindu, Taoist, Mormon,
Spill theirs just anywhere,
But God loves those who treat their
Semen with more care.
MEN:
Every sperm is sacred.
Every sperm is great.
WOMEN:
If a sperm is wasted,...
CHILDREN:
...God get quite irate.
PRIEST:
Every sperm is sacred.
BRIDE and GROOM:
Every sperm is good.
NANNIES:
Every sperm is needed...
CARDINALS:
...In your neighbourhood!
CHILDREN:
Every sperm is useful.
Every sperm is fine.
FUNERAL CORTEGE:
God needs everybody's.
MOURNER #1:
Mine!
MOURNER #2:
And mine!
CORPSE:
And mine!
NUN:
Let the Pagan spill theirs
O'er mountain, hill, and plain.
HOLY STATUES:
God shall strike them down for
Each sperm that's spilt in vain.
EVERYONE:
Every sperm is sacred.
Every sperm is good.
Every sperm is needed
In your neighbourhood.
Every sperm is sacred.
July 18th, 2006 at 3:25 pmEvery sperm is great.
If a sperm is wasted,
God gets quite iraaaaaate!
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Illegal masterbation has got to be pretty hot. Can't wait!
July 18th, 2006 at 3:28 pmIf they outlaw mastrubation, I'll just ask my doctor if she'd be willing to write a prescription for medicinal purposes.
July 18th, 2006 at 3:33 pmSorry, that's masturbation, not mastrubation.
July 18th, 2006 at 3:34 pmAll you heathens must remember, God loves you.
He doesn't really like you all that much, but He loves you just the same.
By killing babies, wasting your Holy juices, and pushing the homosexual agenda you are displeasing Him.
I beg you all to repent and come unto Him so that you will know true peace and love and live forever.
The final battle is coming. Come to Jesus or I'll have to witness your bloody ends.
July 18th, 2006 at 3:41 pmIf this amuses you, you are going to hell.
July 18th, 2006 at 3:43 pmThe final battle is coming. Come to Jesus or I’ll have to witness your bloody ends.
Comment by Bar
I'll save a seat for you in hell.
July 18th, 2006 at 3:44 pmI beg you all to repent and come unto Him so that you will know true peace and love and live forever.
[snip]
Comment by Bar — July 18, 2006 @ 3:41 pm.
If putting up with your inanity is one of the conditions of eternal life, I think I'll take my chances with mortality.
July 18th, 2006 at 3:45 pmHoly Juice Bar?or just a Christian sperm bank
July 18th, 2006 at 3:48 pmok i think Bar is engaged in clever satire now
July 18th, 2006 at 3:50 pmZooey - where's Franny? Did you have her killed in an abortion mill?
Don't bother saving a seat for me, I'll be seated at the right hand of the Father along with the rest of God's chosen people.
I am sad for you all.
July 18th, 2006 at 3:50 pmHow would you enforce a law banning masturbation? Call your optometrist?
July 18th, 2006 at 3:53 pmBar, the next time your wife ovulates, I hope you tell her that she's going to Hell.
July 18th, 2006 at 3:53 pmwell #99 - as i pointed out in #55 they tried by making it less pleasurable - and the practice still goes in by means of momentum and lack of people standing up against it.
(Circumcision in the vast majority of cases is no different than female genital mutilation except it's performed on males)
July 18th, 2006 at 3:54 pmJules, warrantless govt. blue light seaches will turn up a Jackson Pollock in most everyone's house, including religeous freaks
July 18th, 2006 at 3:56 pmthe world is burning, america is potentially on the road to financial ruin & these "representatives" focus on non-issues. By the way Nero strummed a lyre while Rome burned not a fiddle.
July 18th, 2006 at 3:57 pmUntil the Democrats say otherwise
Stem
July 18th, 2006 at 4:00 pmCell
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#103 Democrats say otherwise.
July 18th, 2006 at 4:01 pmAnd yet when you put all the grandstanding aside, there is one overarching problem that the pro-embryonic stem cell research camp can't quite bring themselves to talk about, and that is the disturbing fact that eymbryonic stem cells have the disturbing tendency towards uncontrolled cell division.
While adult stem cell research has resulted in real treatment options, embryonic research thus far has led to one thing, over and over again, and that is uncontrolled cell division.
We have another name for that.
Cancer.
July 18th, 2006 at 4:02 pmhey Ed Schultz - a blastocyst is not a baby. an embryo is not a baby, a featus is not a baby.
It's not an individual until it can survive outside it's host's body without the aid of medical technology. Once it's an individual, it has rights - before then it's just part of something else and does not exist legally or ethically.
July 18th, 2006 at 4:02 pmI’ll be seated at the right hand of the Father along with the rest of God’s chosen people.
[snip]
Comment by Bar — July 18, 2006 @ 3:50 pm
I'm guessing that with all of God's chosen people, there'll naturally be some who are closer to his right hand than others, and that the ones who are farthest away probably wish they could have a better seat.
Who exactly decides on where you all are going to be situated? Can you get any sort of an upgrade?
July 18th, 2006 at 4:02 pm[...] In any event, the embroyos at issue are currently being discarded. [...]
July 18th, 2006 at 4:02 pmWell Bob Owens - that's because research on embryonic stem cells has been retarded by christofascists
"oh we have a problem right now! that means we should stop instead of trying to solve the problem!"
July 18th, 2006 at 4:04 pmThe Repuglican party looked the other way on 9/11 and let 3000 citizens die because they had a golf tournamnet in Omaha.
Then they kill 100,000 plus civilians in Iraq to save them from Sadam.
5000 are locked up in mysterious jails throughout the world with no hope of release, tortured and humiliated.
28,000 soldiers are maimed and mentally damaged for life.
And we are at 2,500 plus have died protecting the Haliburton corporation.
BUT LORD FORBID, we use embryos that will be disgarded anyways to solve disease and human suffering.
But then again, who cares? The Rapture is coming. Why pay the electric bill this month?
Praying for November to get here as fast as possible! God has a special place in hell for these people.
July 18th, 2006 at 4:06 pmThe only thing I have ever heard about stem cell research came fron Al Franken.
That's not the Democratic party.
This is just another issue where I'm not quite sure what the Democratic position is.
The Democrats are the tonsils of the USA. Catchin' all the debris...It's a throw-all, free-for-all...round and round it goes...
July 18th, 2006 at 4:07 pm105 Bob Owens
July 18th, 2006 at 4:09 pmOK, so researchers can study how cancer forms and grows so rapidly. I wish we knew more about cancer's properties before my young nephew, two good friends, numerous aunts and uncles, and fellow church congregants succumbed to the disease.
I’ll be seated at the right hand of the Father along with the rest of God’s chosen people.
Comment by Bar — July 18, 2006 @ 3:50 pm
And I thought pride was a mortal sin...
July 18th, 2006 at 4:11 pmI meant "capital" sin....
July 18th, 2006 at 4:11 pmSomeone already had the Every sperm is sacred song :)
July 18th, 2006 at 4:13 pmIn reality I don't think many of them care about the issue, it's primarily about fishing votes.
Since discarding the embryos must be more disturbing to them than using them for life-saving research, why don't they follow through to their logical conclusion: Propose a bill and funding to bring the products of IVF to term and find them parents or make them wards of the state. Oh, wait, better to shelve them for political use? Check.
July 18th, 2006 at 4:26 pmI don't think this stem cell ban goes nearly far enough. I think all menstruating women should be charged with murder and put to death.
C'mon, Brownback, take this to its utterly illogical conclusion.
July 18th, 2006 at 4:36 pmThese crazy deliverance 29%ers are wanting to give a fetus more respect and protection than they are willing to allow citizens in the USA...they want to trample the constitution, torture, start wars, invade privacy, but take away the right of choice because they are troglodytes?
Vote Democrat and take this country back from the lunatics in the Reichwing.
July 18th, 2006 at 4:54 pmBrownback's display of a drawing done by a little girl is disingenuous at best.
July 18th, 2006 at 5:00 pmHow did a girl of that age (obviously a very young child) develop a thought process of a complex matter like that independently? She merely drew a picture of what her mistaken mother told her.
He, on the other hand, much older than the child-artist, uses her drawing to illustrate his own ignorance of a complex subject on which he is supposed to vote legislation.
Sort of like Sen. Stevens the other day, trying to offer his explanation of the "internet tubes" that crown out his personal emails!
We should demand an standard IQ test, or at least a test of the ability to think critically, as a prerquisite before electing someone to make laws for the rest of us.
Brownback is a liar, just like the rest of you psuedo Christians.
July 18th, 2006 at 5:12 pmOf course, killing humans in Iraq is fine with you. (Show me anywhere in the Bible where Jesus said to kill anybody, especially our"enemies".)
the nazis are presenting theeir aryan belief system again in place of science.
July 18th, 2006 at 5:13 pmWhen was the last time you heard of a 2 day old embroyos parents applying for a Social Secutrity Number? According to the SS Admin. a birth certificate required in order to apply for one (among other requirements) ! You can't be recognized as a citizen of this country until your're born alive!
July 18th, 2006 at 5:15 pmEd Schultz:
I assume from your statements that you oppose IVF? You would pass a law that prohibits couples with fertility problems from using the IVF technology? Lotsa luck getting that passed!
Nobody is talking about "creating" embryos simply for the purpose of stem cell research. For one thing, this is a difficult and somewhat painful procedure for the woman, so women are NOT going to be going out in droves to volunteer for this, believe me. If you want to advocate a law prohibiting people creating embryonic stem cells, APART FROM IVF, go for it. That would get bipartisan support.
But your position is, essentially, saying that couples cannot use IVF. I hope you realize that.
BOTH adult stem cells and embryonic stem cells should be researched. Both can lead to cures. There is no need to play one off against the other, and the people doing that show poverty of thinking and understanding.
Yes, one of the problems with embryonic stem cells is, since they are undifferentiated, they have the potential for growing into cells not wanted. And they share that undifferentiation with cancer cells. As someone pointed out above, entire understanding of lack of differentiation not only means successful embryonic stem cell use, it also means much better understanding of how to combat the undifferentiated cancer cell.
So, those of you opposing embryonic stem cell research are also opposing a promising line of research in preventing cancer, as well as many other diseases. How can you be so cruel?
July 18th, 2006 at 5:15 pmthey don't see it as cruel - they see it as upholding good moral values as taught to them by their fairytail and presuming they have the right to force their opinion on "good moral values" on others -
July 18th, 2006 at 5:30 pmHowever, i find them completely immoral neofascists based upon my morals, where were arrived at by independant logical thought instead of authoritarian "do this or be punished!" thinking
Wolfdaughter: "How can you be so cruel?"
Answer: There's is a cruel, punishing religion.
July 18th, 2006 at 5:32 pmI'm sorry. THEIRS is a cruel, punishing religion.
July 18th, 2006 at 5:33 pmAhhhhh we sure do love a good argument. Nothing like it. It really is NOT all that complex. I'm very spiritual and probably more "religious" then most of you who claim to be. Most religious people judge. I practice not to. I believe that I will be judged and it won't be by any freaking mortal. Do any of you who are negative on "killing" sperm or stem cells drink alcohol? If you do then you should probably shut your pie hole, go have another drink, and kill a few more "living" brain cells. There are SOOOOO many freaking things that ALL of us, as individuals, do that is wrong. So why not focus more on making ourselves more whole and productive and whatever else is good? And so I re-post my original post.
Now keep in mind that this idea is in the early stages so it has some rough edges. But basically we, as a country, generate a registry on whether or not each individual is for or against stem cell research. Maybe we sign it when we reach 18 or get our license or social security card. If you are against it then your tax dollars don't go toward the research and if you are for the research then your tax dollars go towards the research. Also, and most importantly, if you are against it and you develop a disease and the stem cell research has produced a cure for this disease then unfortunately you are not entitled to use the cure unless you pay all that you would've paid in taxes. And, obviously, if you signed in favor then you get the cure. Again, some rough edges but fairly simple.
Then, come the day of judgement, we will all have to stand with our decision. I'm all for the research.
July 18th, 2006 at 5:50 pmthe registry idea is an extremely bad precident - and i shouldn't have to explain why
and religion is a mental disorder
July 18th, 2006 at 5:52 pmreligion is a mental disorder? holly crap! what the hell are you on? now i've heard everything.
July 18th, 2006 at 5:55 pmRave on catshit, somebody will cover you up! What a freaking moron, oh, he is from Kansas...they don't believe in science in that state do they? Was it the tornado in the Wizard that screwed them up? Pat Roberts is also from that dumbed down state...what a bunch of morons.
July 18th, 2006 at 6:19 pmIf I adopt the snowflakes, can I just keep them in the freezer? It's a lot cheaper that way (all those new sneakers, and college and all) and I'll love them just the same as my real kids.
If ConEd has a brownout, can I sue them for melting my babies?
And If I adopt a batch of the little snowflakes and keep them in my freezer and my Granny (who has a nasty case of the Alzheimer’s because of no stem cell research) plunks them in my dipsomaniacal wifey's 3PM gin & tonic, is the Mrs. a murderer or is Granny going to the big house? These things worry me.
July 18th, 2006 at 6:28 pmThougful guy - thanks - I love the meaning of life - the other great song is the one about the universe - which end something like - hope there is intelligent life somewhere in space, because there's bugger all down here on earth. As Sammy B just proved. I keep asking, but no one has an answer - How the hell do these idiots get elected? My dead cat was smarter!
July 18th, 2006 at 6:31 pm[...] Talking embryos. This seems less at home on the Senate floor than, say, in a Kiki Smith show. art, asshole, news politics [...]
July 18th, 2006 at 7:01 pmWhy dosen't Sen.Brownback find one of those 'discarded' Blastocysts that he pretends to speak for, and show everyone EXACTLY what it looks like, instead of using a seven year old child's rendering of one? Could it be because if people actually had a real concept of where the stem cells were coming from, and in this case size really DOES matter, it would end this debate? If they knew what a Blastocyst actually looked like, while some would still object, I can't help but think that an overwhelming majority of Americans would support stem cell research. It is the lack of reference that the Righties continue to use to their advantage. They prefer to keep people ignorant, they are easier to manipulate that way.
July 18th, 2006 at 8:33 pmZooey - where’s Franny? Did you have her killed in an abortion mill?
Comment by Bar
Hi, Bar. Actually I'm a woman with a guy's name.
I go out as often as possible and try to get pregnant, just so I can have an abortion. In fact, I wasn't getting pregnant often enough, so I had a bunch of embryos frozen, and every night after I come home from working at the abortion mill, I thaw one out.
Franny? Who knows, she's in charge of her own life.
July 18th, 2006 at 8:57 pm[...] Here is a screencap from Think Progress [...]
July 18th, 2006 at 9:23 pmDid he draw that himself? Impressive.
July 18th, 2006 at 9:25 pmDo dolts like Brownback have any idea how ridiculous they are? How ignorant they appear? Do they care?
July 18th, 2006 at 10:24 pmIf Brownback thinks embryos are children, then he needs help > he is as stupid as the senator that took a stillborn baby home so his kids could see it before burial! Some GOP members are mentally ill and must resign from the Senate!
July 19th, 2006 at 12:52 am#141-Jay, That would be Senator Rick Santorum, a truly sick individual.
July 19th, 2006 at 2:36 amSo, whaddya tell "Hannah" when she comes down with diabetes? "Die, Hannah, die!! Your pictures won't save you now, and neither will your vote!!"
If these rightwingers want to save blastocysts so much, perhaps they'd appreciate truckloads of bloody tampons delivered to their offices. Or homes.
July 19th, 2006 at 8:46 amHi Zooey, I too am a woman. I however am a God fearing, God loving, child loving Christian unlike you.
Your sick attempts at humor reveal how lightly you take this issue. Can't you hear the screams of all the unborn murder victims? I know I can each night when I lay me down to sleep and each day when I hold up my pictures at the local abortion mill and try to persuade young women not to kill their babies.
Tears are beginning to well up in my eyes just thinking about all those children and the children not yet in wombs that are going to be scrambled up for your pleasure.
You disgust me. You are a murderer. You advocate genocide and crack jokes about it and I call upon my Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ and the one true God to mark your name down in the book of the damned so that you shall not enter Heaven but be forced to live out eternity in the fiery pits of Hell. You and your ilk are the devil incarnate and I rebuke you!
GET BEHIND ME SATAN!
And your little dog too.
July 19th, 2006 at 9:17 amCmon, just picture yer average 150 year old liberal, stretched way beyond their prime years, no longer able to ThinkCritically with lightning speed and 100% accuracy, inevitably bent into some twisted troll-like figures by their lifelong egotism masquerading for benevolence and goodwill, seething hatred, and chronic, snide, vulgar derision of all and everything that they somehow disapprove of.
Stem cells will have even allowed them to defy and overcome the deadly effects of global warming that have killed lesser people. i.e. stem cell opponents. Good riddance, they're the ones who caused global warming in the first place, just like their secret government agencies once invented the (all but vanquished) AIDS.
Their nefarious doings were all to no avail *cackle, cackle!* because the libs will no longer die! The Vigil of the True Guardians for Peace and Love will go on Forever!
Die Repugs! Long live ye stem cells!! Everyone do the Howard Dean war cry: YYYYYYYYEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAARRRRRGGH!!!!!!
July 19th, 2006 at 10:20 am#145 - Hey Bar,
I have been rebuked - oh my god.
I don't care what anyone says about you, Bar, you're hilarious, whether you're serious or not.
Watch what you say about my dog, Bar...
GET BEHIND ME SANTA!
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July 19th, 2006 at 1:09 pm" ...you shall not enter Heaven but be forced to live out eternity in the fiery pits of Hell. You and your ilk are the devil incarnate and I rebuke you!"
There is another kind of person that deserves all the hellfire you can pour on them. Due to the pervasive feminization of society where boys have been turned into wimps all attention is focused on the womb and its contents. But the males are not innocent - far from it. The sad situation is that each day, and in some cases, multiple times daily, males the world over engage in the most abhorrent cellicide imaginable. I am referrring to masturbation where semen is routinely spilled on the carpet, on bedsheets, and in cases of exceptional force and pressure, even on the walls. On these unwelcoming surfaces the individual spermatozoa suffer and expire under the most dire conditions, sending shudders through good Christians. Can these masturbators not hear the screams of all the unborn murder victims? With a good amplifier you can probably hear the "aaahhs" of millions of sperm as they meet their doom on the living room carpet.
We MUST put a stop to this heartless genocide. After all, a sperm is just as much a potential half-human as an egg, no? We need laws, strong laws, to curb the masturbatory mayhem that is so popular with males. It has been known for years that entirely innocent sperm suffer and die for male self-gratification, but has anything been done about it? Nooo. Only the Christians have stepped up to the plate to deliver the unfortunate ejaculate from its fate. For this reason Christians do not masturbate, ever.
I suggest a nationwide anti-onanism campaign to save lives. I suggest a new poster to go along with the aborted-fetus one: a red slash across a hand wrapped around an erect penis with the text "Every Sperm is Sacred." I think it's an idea whose time has come.
July 19th, 2006 at 1:37 pm[...] Among the bill’s opponents, Republican Senator Sam Brownback of Kansas made a spectacle on Monday when he used a 7-year-old girl’s explanation of stem cell research to make his point. How comforting that the Christian right has such a wide range of authorities to quote on the issue. Senator Brownback’s source, a girl named Hannah, came from an “adopted†frozen embryo, which the Senator no doubt thought illustrated what the bill puts at stake very well. He explained it this way: [...]
July 19th, 2006 at 3:32 pmActually, pro-onan campaign sounds good to me. Of course, it would be better to send your smart, plentiful, all-natural, left-turning protein to, say, Africa where it could be consumed by the starving masses yearning to be enlightened liberals. After all its just some dumb old useless dead cells hanging around in yer 'nads. I say you should empty those noble balls for peace, progress and love.
For starters I think the Good should "sign" petitions advocating the mass transfer of lib sperm to Third World (haha) c(o)untries. How about a mass group-"signing" of the dress of a willing coworker or employee, a la Monica Lewinsky? No shame in that. Its all good. All natural.
Then we could send our free lovers and thinkers to show 'em how to felch-feed their babies, maybe even apply "first aid" on a per-case basis.
July 19th, 2006 at 7:29 pmFirst, Senator Bozo Lies in at Least Three Amicus Federal Court Briefs and NOw Lies On The Senate Floor
This clown is so Rovian. He makes Pat Roberts look honest.
July 19th, 2006 at 11:41 pm#144 - Bar
Fred Phelps called. He told me to let you know your lunch date's been pushed back to 1 PM...
July 20th, 2006 at 9:21 am[...] Brownback Holds Up Drawing Of Embryo, Asks ‘Are You Going To Kill Me?’ Senate Passes Bill Expanding Stem Cell Research [...]
July 20th, 2006 at 9:33 am[...] http://www.thinkprogress.org/2006/07/18/brownback-embryo/ [...]
July 20th, 2006 at 10:36 amMy only affliction, related to the stem-cell issue, is my outrage at the indigestible, intolerable reality that the most ignorant, religiously biased and scientifically uneducated of our lawmakers, have negatively affected the most toweringly important issue ever to confront medical science, thereby destroying any possibility of OUR National Institute of Health participating in stem-cell research.
It is even more incomprehensible that a, criminally installed, unelected president should have the final word on this gigantically important issue! Why this profoundly, morally and intellectually, defective east Texas white-trash, who has been stinking up Al Gore’s house for the last five years, should be allowed to interfere in the conduct of medical research, which could directly and positively impact the lives of a third of Americans, is beyond reason.
There is no possible, logical argument against adding this crime against society to the litany of infractions, which mandate this utter fool’s impeachment and removal from office.
PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE SUPPORT THE IMPEACHMENT INITIATIVE NOW UNDER WAY AND HELP END THIS NIGHTMARE, ONCE AND FOR ALL!!! CONTACT YOUR SENATORS AND CONGRESS-WO/MEN AND URGE THEM TO JOIN IN THIS EFFORT.
July 20th, 2006 at 11:55 am[...] (transcript via ThinkProgress) [...]
July 20th, 2006 at 1:43 pmYeah, then we can back to blowing sprem around for peace love and the benefit of all mankind.
July 20th, 2006 at 2:45 pm[...] From Embryo Ventriloquism: Not Just Almost A Googlewhack (in response to Sen. Sam Brownback’s recent speech in which he played the part of an embryo and asked the Senate, “Are you going to kill me?”): Interview With The Embryo It was a strange thing, the other day; there I was, in the scientific laboratory, talking to an embryo. It had a small voice, like an angel crossed with a kitten, and it explained to me how it wanted to be killed. [...]
July 21st, 2006 at 5:15 pmIt's amazing to watch the Christians and their concern for "life." They must have become more decent since the times when they were not quite so adverse to killing. However, I have the solution to the embryonic stem cell controversy, I think. Why don't the Christians sprinkle the stem cells with "holy" water to make sure their "souls" are "saved?" After all, that was the Christians' favorite trick during the time that supposed witches and other Christian targets were hunted down and murdered. The condemneds' "souls" were saved although their bodies were burned alive. In fact, when the Inquisition garroted its Spanish victims, they were made to hold a Bible in their hands as they were slowly strangled.
So perhaps the Christians could sprinkle the cells with "holy" water and baptize them, giving them names like SS0001, SS0002, etc. That way, their "souls" could ascend to "heaven," a place of intense concern to Christians. As for the rest of us,we would benefit from the research on the physical forms of the blastocycts, while the blastocyst souls would ascend to heaven and take their rightful and deserved residence in the heavenly Petri dishes, being "saved" and all ...
July 21st, 2006 at 7:10 pmThere were those who opposed the steam train, too.
July 25th, 2006 at 2:19 am[...] Brownback showed the Senate Hannah’s self-portrait, where she’s drawn herself as a smiling six- to eight-celled clump alongside two less fortunate companions: [...]
July 27th, 2006 at 2:19 pm[...] 72. During a floor debate on embryonic stem cell research, Sen. Sam Brownback (R-KS) held up a picture of an embryo drawn by a 7-year-old girl. Brownback explained that one of the embryos in the picture was asking, “Are you going to kill me?” [Link] [...]
November 6th, 2006 at 6:19 pmIn response to comment 159. i would like to make a point about the morals of Christains during the Salem trails and the morals of Christians now. Sure they made mistakes hundreds of years ago but what is so bad about reform? Are they still killing innocents now? No, in fact, they are trying to save them. Perhaps you should stop getting on their cases for what their ancestors did and start trying to help stop the innocent killing. If you defend it so strongly you believe it yourself, right?
December 7th, 2006 at 10:49 pmBROWNBACK FOR PRESIDENT! THE REST OF YOU GO ABOUT DEMORALIZING AMERICA AND MAKE US MORE LIKE EUROPE WHERE THEY ARE LOSING THEIR IDENTITY.
January 20th, 2007 at 8:40 pm