Comments on: New York Times Finally Retracts Clinton Story http://thinkprogress.org/2006/07/18/clinton-retraction/ Fri, 27 Nov 2009 00:24:38 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: America http://thinkprogress.org/2006/07/18/clinton-retraction/comment-page-1/#comment-717946 America Thu, 10 Aug 2006 02:12:45 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/07/18/clinton-retraction/#comment-717946 <strong>WSJ: Scholar Warns Iran's Ahmadinejad May Have 'Cataclysmic Events' In Mind For August 22 Tue Aug 08 2006 10:22:35 ET In a WALL STREET JOURNAL op-ed Tuesday, Princeton's Bernard Lewis writes: "There is a radical difference between the Islamic Republic of Iran and other governments with nuclear weapons. This difference is expressed in what can only be described as the apocalyptic worldview of Iran's present rulers." "In Islam as in Judaism and Christianity, there are certain beliefs concerning the cosmic struggle at the end of time -- Gog and Magog, anti-Christ, Armageddon, and for Shiite Muslims, the long awaited return of the Hidden Imam, ending in the final victory of the forces of good over evil, however these may be defined." President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad "and his followers clearly believe that this time is now, and that the terminal struggle has already begun and is indeed well advanced. It may even have a date, indicated by several references by the Iranian president to giving his final answer to the US about nuclear development by Aug. 22," which this year corresponds "to the 27th day of the month of Rajab of the year 1427. This, by tradition, is the night when many Muslims commemorate the night flight of the prophet Muhammad on the winged horse Buraq, first to 'the farthest mosque,' usually identified with Jerusalem, and then to heaven and back (c.f., Koran XVII.1). "This might well be deemed an appropriate date for the apocalyptic ending of Israel and if necessary of the world. It is far from certain that Mr. Ahmadinejad plans any such cataclysmic events precisely for Aug. 22. But it would be wise to bear the possibility in mind." Developing... Rest of Story Obsession http://www.obsessionthemovie.com/</strong> WSJ: Scholar Warns Iran’s Ahmadinejad May Have ‘Cataclysmic Events’ In Mind For August 22
Tue Aug 08 2006 10:22:35 ET

In a WALL STREET JOURNAL op-ed Tuesday, Princeton’s Bernard Lewis writes: “There is a radical difference between the Islamic Republic of Iran and other governments with nuclear weapons. This difference is expressed in what can only be described as the apocalyptic worldview of Iran’s present rulers.”

“In Islam as in Judaism and Christianity, there are certain beliefs concerning the cosmic struggle at the end of time — Gog and Magog, anti-Christ, Armageddon, and for Shiite Muslims, the long awaited return of the Hidden Imam, ending in the final victory of the forces of good over evil, however these may be defined.”

President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad “and his followers clearly believe that this time is now, and that the terminal struggle has already begun and is indeed well advanced. It may even have a date, indicated by several references by the Iranian president to giving his final answer to the US about nuclear development by Aug. 22,” which this year corresponds “to the 27th day of the month of Rajab of the year 1427. This, by tradition, is the night when many Muslims commemorate the night flight of the prophet Muhammad on the winged horse Buraq, first to ‘the farthest mosque,’ usually identified with Jerusalem, and then to heaven and back (c.f., Koran XVII.1).

“This might well be deemed an appropriate date for the apocalyptic ending of Israel and if necessary of the world. It is far from certain that Mr. Ahmadinejad plans any such cataclysmic events precisely for Aug. 22. But it would be wise to bear the possibility in mind.”

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]]> By: The Challenge Dividend http://thinkprogress.org/2006/07/18/clinton-retraction/comment-page-1/#comment-685292 The Challenge Dividend Sun, 23 Jul 2006 11:55:38 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/07/18/clinton-retraction/#comment-685292 <strong>Blogs Keep Jounalists Vulnerable...</strong> Absolute power corrupts absolutely. This quote is famous for describing the seemingly natural tendency for leaders to abuse their power once they have it. This is why democracy has embraced the challenge of periodic elections and the checks and balance... Blogs Keep Jounalists Vulnerable…

Absolute power corrupts absolutely. This quote is famous for describing the seemingly natural tendency for leaders to abuse their power once they have it. This is why democracy has embraced the challenge of periodic elections and the checks and balance…

]]> By: Tracy http://thinkprogress.org/2006/07/18/clinton-retraction/comment-page-1/#comment-681677 Tracy Thu, 20 Jul 2006 16:00:48 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/07/18/clinton-retraction/#comment-681677 #35 "How many of the dead Lebanese are with Hezbollah?" Hezbollah is entrenched among the Lebanese population unfortunately. As far as the Israelis are concerned the Lebanese government is complicit with Hezbollah considering they have done absolutely nothing to disarm or diaban them in the six years since Israel withdrew from southern Lebanon in 2000. "Lebanon is showing great restraint in not responding to the illegal invasion and bombing of their country." Great restraint? They can't even control these armed militants inside their own borders. They should start showing no restraint against Hezbollah and aid the Israelis in getting rid of this ILLEGAL milita. #35

“How many of the dead Lebanese are with Hezbollah?”

Hezbollah is entrenched among the Lebanese population unfortunately. As far as the Israelis are concerned the Lebanese government is complicit with Hezbollah considering they have done absolutely nothing to disarm or diaban them in the six years since Israel withdrew from southern Lebanon in 2000.

“Lebanon is showing great restraint in not responding to the illegal invasion and bombing of their country.”

Great restraint? They can’t even control these armed militants inside their own borders. They should start showing no restraint against Hezbollah and aid the Israelis in getting rid of this ILLEGAL milita.

]]> By: liberal elite http://thinkprogress.org/2006/07/18/clinton-retraction/comment-page-1/#comment-679660 liberal elite Wed, 19 Jul 2006 19:04:51 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/07/18/clinton-retraction/#comment-679660 This is the second one. A couple of weeks ago they let some wingnut claim that protesters at veterans' funerals were liberal democrats, even though they were actually just more wingnut evangelical fundamentalists. It took the Times about a week to retract that one, too. This is the second one. A couple of weeks ago they let some wingnut claim that protesters at veterans’ funerals were liberal democrats, even though they were actually just more wingnut evangelical fundamentalists.

It took the Times about a week to retract that one, too.

]]> By: Jeremy http://thinkprogress.org/2006/07/18/clinton-retraction/comment-page-1/#comment-679034 Jeremy Wed, 19 Jul 2006 15:13:27 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/07/18/clinton-retraction/#comment-679034 WHO CARES!!!! Hillary should not be our candidate in 2008 and not worthy of all of this attention anyway. She will raise as much money for the GOP as the Dems and has absolutely no chance of winning a general election. She inspires as much hate as W. Moreover she is nowhere near as qualified or worthy as Gore, Warner or several others. Wake up people! WHO CARES!!!! Hillary should not be our candidate in 2008 and not worthy of all of this attention anyway. She will raise as much money for the GOP as the Dems and has absolutely no chance of winning a general election. She inspires as much hate as W. Moreover she is nowhere near as qualified or worthy as Gore, Warner or several others. Wake up people!

]]> By: Kevin http://thinkprogress.org/2006/07/18/clinton-retraction/comment-page-1/#comment-679008 Kevin Wed, 19 Jul 2006 14:58:39 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/07/18/clinton-retraction/#comment-679008 #32 Come on! Look at the death tolls. How many of the dead Lebanese are with Hezbollah? And, if you want to get right down to it, compare the numbers between Lebanese dead and Israeli dead. It seems that a great percentage of the Israeli dead are actually military while the same is not true for the Lebanese dead. And, if Israel is attacking Hezbollah, why did they attack a Lebanese army base? Lebanon is showing great restraint in not responding to the illegal invasion and bombing of their country. #32 Come on! Look at the death tolls. How many of the dead Lebanese are with Hezbollah?

And, if you want to get right down to it, compare the numbers between Lebanese dead and Israeli dead. It seems that a great percentage of the Israeli dead are actually military while the same is not true for the Lebanese dead.

And, if Israel is attacking Hezbollah, why did they attack a Lebanese army base?

Lebanon is showing great restraint in not responding to the illegal invasion and bombing of their country.

]]> By: Slow & Cumbersome http://thinkprogress.org/2006/07/18/clinton-retraction/comment-page-1/#comment-678978 Slow & Cumbersome Wed, 19 Jul 2006 14:40:06 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/07/18/clinton-retraction/#comment-678978 Last night I could not find the correction online. I only knew about it because of a reply I received from having written Calame. Last night I could not find the correction online. I only knew about it because of a reply I received from having written Calame.

]]> By: Kevin http://thinkprogress.org/2006/07/18/clinton-retraction/comment-page-1/#comment-678944 Kevin Wed, 19 Jul 2006 14:17:01 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/07/18/clinton-retraction/#comment-678944 Why should liberals give a shit about Hillary Clinton? Yes, make sure the media is doing their job. But, please, realize that Hillary is not the answer. Her comments in support of Israel's campaigns in Lebanon and Gaza are absolutely atrocious and unforgivable. I would not give her a vote in a million years. She is another corrupt, rich politician. Why should liberals give a shit about Hillary Clinton? Yes, make sure the media is doing their job. But, please, realize that Hillary is not the answer. Her comments in support of Israel’s campaigns in Lebanon and Gaza are absolutely atrocious and unforgivable. I would not give her a vote in a million years. She is another corrupt, rich politician.

]]> By: Tracy http://thinkprogress.org/2006/07/18/clinton-retraction/comment-page-1/#comment-678878 Tracy Wed, 19 Jul 2006 13:37:38 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/07/18/clinton-retraction/#comment-678878 #22 Correction post 22 > Israel’s aggression on Hezbollah #22

Correction post 22 > Israel’s aggression on Hezbollah

]]> By: Destiny http://thinkprogress.org/2006/07/18/clinton-retraction/comment-page-1/#comment-678875 Destiny Wed, 19 Jul 2006 13:34:23 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/07/18/clinton-retraction/#comment-678875 would it be justified to bomb the entire Mexican citizenry to punish the drug lord? would it be justified to bomb the entire Mexican citizenry to punish the drug lord?

]]> By: Zappatero http://thinkprogress.org/2006/07/18/clinton-retraction/comment-page-1/#comment-678759 Zappatero Wed, 19 Jul 2006 11:40:55 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/07/18/clinton-retraction/#comment-678759 <em>Why did it take the New York Times more than 48 hours to correct the record?</em> They were trying to figure out if their reporter could have been that damned stupid. Adam Nagourney told them "No". Why did it take the New York Times more than 48 hours to correct the record?

They were trying to figure out if their reporter could have been that damned stupid.

Adam Nagourney told them “No”.

]]> By: Flamethrower http://thinkprogress.org/2006/07/18/clinton-retraction/comment-page-1/#comment-678757 Flamethrower Wed, 19 Jul 2006 11:39:12 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/07/18/clinton-retraction/#comment-678757 katy said it best. Damn! katy said it best. Damn!

]]> By: Drudge Report » Drudge report - College Democrats meeting at SLU to highlight need for youth … http://thinkprogress.org/2006/07/18/clinton-retraction/comment-page-1/#comment-678496 Drudge Report » Drudge report - College Democrats meeting at SLU to highlight need for youth … Wed, 19 Jul 2006 06:13:15 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/07/18/clinton-retraction/#comment-678496 [...] New York Times Finally Retracts Clinton StoryThink Progress, DC - 6 hours ago… Will right-wing news sites that picked up the story like Drudge Report and Newsmax correct the record for their readers? Formatting … [...] [...] New York Times Finally Retracts Clinton StoryThink Progress, DC - 6 hours ago… Will right-wing news sites that picked up the story like Drudge Report and Newsmax correct the record for their readers? Formatting … [...]

]]> By: Jim http://thinkprogress.org/2006/07/18/clinton-retraction/comment-page-1/#comment-678492 Jim Wed, 19 Jul 2006 06:07:02 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/07/18/clinton-retraction/#comment-678492 #26: CMW's post is incoherent. But Hillary Clinton's position on Iraq is troubling. It appears to be similar to Joe Lieberman's, minus the smirking demagoguery. #26: CMW’s post is incoherent.

But Hillary Clinton’s position on Iraq is troubling. It appears to be similar to Joe Lieberman’s, minus the smirking demagoguery.

]]> By: Brett http://thinkprogress.org/2006/07/18/clinton-retraction/comment-page-1/#comment-678484 Brett Wed, 19 Jul 2006 05:56:54 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/07/18/clinton-retraction/#comment-678484 CMW - are you serious? How could you compare Hilary Clinton to a war monger? Let's focus on the fact that this story is about how the NYT misrepresented a speech and then took 2 days to correct itself. Stop blaming the party that isn't even in control and take some responsibility for this <strong>do nothing congress</strong> and <strong>lying war profitering president</strong>. It disgusts me that you could be so ignorant. CMW – are you serious? How could you compare Hilary Clinton to a war monger?

Let’s focus on the fact that this story is about how the NYT misrepresented a speech and then took 2 days to correct itself.

Stop blaming the party that isn’t even in control and take some responsibility for this do nothing congress and lying war profitering president. It disgusts me that you could be so ignorant.

]]> By: Jay Randal http://thinkprogress.org/2006/07/18/clinton-retraction/comment-page-1/#comment-678473 Jay Randal Wed, 19 Jul 2006 05:46:06 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/07/18/clinton-retraction/#comment-678473 Post 23 cmw > yep Hillary muddied the water to justify her undying support for Israel! The sad thing is that her husband Bill claimed he was impartial in trying to broker a peace deal between Israel and the Palestinians, but it ends up he was just helping Israel only! The Clintons have revealed that they are shills for Israel and NO different from Lieberman in supporting any wars! Let's say a Mexican drug lord kidnapped a couple of our National Guard troops on the border, so would it be justified to bomb the entire Mexican citizenry to punish the drug lord? NO that action would be as unjustified as Israel is doing to the Lebanese! Our government would have a right to pursue the drug lord and to attack his operations, but not to bomb Mexico City! Post 23 cmw > yep Hillary muddied the water to justify her undying support for Israel! The sad thing is that her husband Bill claimed he was impartial in trying to broker a peace deal between Israel and the Palestinians, but it ends up he was just helping Israel only! The Clintons have revealed that they are shills for Israel and NO different from Lieberman in supporting any wars!

Let’s say a Mexican drug lord kidnapped a couple of our National Guard troops on the border, so would it be justified to bomb the entire Mexican citizenry to punish the drug lord? NO that action would be as unjustified as Israel is doing to the Lebanese! Our government would have a right to pursue the drug lord and to attack his operations, but not to bomb Mexico City!

]]> By: proudleftists http://thinkprogress.org/2006/07/18/clinton-retraction/comment-page-1/#comment-678446 proudleftists Wed, 19 Jul 2006 05:29:01 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/07/18/clinton-retraction/#comment-678446 Hillary,Lieberman,and AIPAC MUST GO!!! Hillary,Lieberman,and AIPAC MUST GO!!!

]]> By: cmw http://thinkprogress.org/2006/07/18/clinton-retraction/comment-page-1/#comment-678395 cmw Wed, 19 Jul 2006 04:27:11 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/07/18/clinton-retraction/#comment-678395 Hilary is as bad as Bush She made a false analogy Comparing the Israeli bombing attack on Lebanon with a supposed attack by Mexico on the US Saying - what if Mexico bombed the US But the analogy would be - what if the US bombed Mexico - as in - what if Mexican military (comparable to Hezbollah) captured US soldiers - and in retaliation the US bombed Mexico City) - that would be the comparison But she muddied the waters by ignoring the fact that Israel bombed first. She carefully composed her analogy to ensure a continued flow of Israeli dollars into her presidential coffers. She's like Lyndon Johnson A War Monger Hilary is as bad as Bush
She made a false analogy
Comparing the Israeli bombing attack on Lebanon with a supposed attack by Mexico on the US
Saying – what if Mexico bombed the US

But the analogy would be – what if the US bombed Mexico – as in – what if Mexican military (comparable to Hezbollah) captured US soldiers – and in retaliation the US bombed Mexico City) – that would be the comparison

But she muddied the waters by ignoring the fact that Israel bombed first.

She carefully composed her analogy to ensure a continued flow of Israeli dollars into her presidential coffers.

She’s like Lyndon Johnson
A War Monger

]]> By: Jay Randal http://thinkprogress.org/2006/07/18/clinton-retraction/comment-page-1/#comment-678349 Jay Randal Wed, 19 Jul 2006 03:58:11 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/07/18/clinton-retraction/#comment-678349 Correction post 21 > Israel's aggression on Lebanon! Correction post 21 > Israel’s aggression on Lebanon!

]]> By: Jay Randal http://thinkprogress.org/2006/07/18/clinton-retraction/comment-page-1/#comment-678345 Jay Randal Wed, 19 Jul 2006 03:55:43 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/07/18/clinton-retraction/#comment-678345 Who cares about the New York Times having to retract a error report about Hillary Clinton! If they want revenge on her, they can report that she is backing Israel's aggression on Israel, so shame on her for backing fascism! Who cares about the New York Times having to retract a error report about Hillary Clinton! If they want revenge on her, they can report that she is backing Israel’s aggression on Israel, so shame on her for backing fascism!

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