Comments on: Kristol Suggests People of Iran Would Embrace U.S. Attack, Triggering Regime Change http://thinkprogress.org/2006/07/19/kristol-iran/ Thu, 26 Nov 2009 08:14:57 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: William Kristol - Will the U.S. use military force in Iran? http://thinkprogress.org/2006/07/19/kristol-iran/comment-page-8/#comment-4697868 William Kristol - Will the U.S. use military force in Iran? Wed, 02 Apr 2008 16:58:00 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/07/19/kristol-iran/#comment-4697868 [...] (4) | My vote: None  Maybe he's not so much saying we will as he is saying we should, but Kristol certainly makes the case for (inevitable?) war with Iran: KRISTOL: We have to be ready to use military force against Iran, if it comes to that. Think what [...] [...] (4) | My vote: None  Maybe he’s not so much saying we will as he is saying we should, but Kristol certainly makes the case for (inevitable?) war with Iran: KRISTOL: We have to be ready to use military force against Iran, if it comes to that. Think what [...]

]]> By: The Partisan Blast » Blog Archive » Pelosi Leads Diplomatic Effort In Middle East: Someone has to do it http://thinkprogress.org/2006/07/19/kristol-iran/comment-page-8/#comment-3089638 The Partisan Blast » Blog Archive » Pelosi Leads Diplomatic Effort In Middle East: Someone has to do it Mon, 02 Apr 2007 04:26:51 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/07/19/kristol-iran/#comment-3089638 [...] course, this is the same Bill Kristol who said in the days leading up to the Iraq War: We are tempted to comment, in these last days before the [...] [...] course, this is the same Bill Kristol who said in the days leading up to the Iraq War: We are tempted to comment, in these last days before the [...]

]]> By: One-Eyed Kings » The Road to Surfdom http://thinkprogress.org/2006/07/19/kristol-iran/comment-page-8/#comment-2171384 One-Eyed Kings » The Road to Surfdom Mon, 12 Mar 2007 19:13:19 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/07/19/kristol-iran/#comment-2171384 [...] required - just a healthy dose of “shock and awe” bombardment which, according to William Kristol and his compatriots, will lead to an uprising of pro-American reformers that would topple the [...] [...] required - just a healthy dose of “shock and awe” bombardment which, according to William Kristol and his compatriots, will lead to an uprising of pro-American reformers that would topple the [...]

]]> By: U.S. May Concede to Talks with Syria and Iran « Wa Salaam http://thinkprogress.org/2006/07/19/kristol-iran/comment-page-8/#comment-1162161 U.S. May Concede to Talks with Syria and Iran « Wa Salaam Tue, 21 Nov 2006 06:30:32 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/07/19/kristol-iran/#comment-1162161 [...] When I stumbled upon this interview it provided a great deal of relief. Not because it was extremely positive and seemingly rosy. Because its not, in fact its rather dry and skeptical hence the materialization of whats really in the back of everyone’s mind. But because the momentum of the U.S. diplomatic developments with Syria and Iran has reversed. I recall not too long ago writing an article citing Bill Kristol saying, “We can try diplomacy. I’m not very hopeful about that. We have to be ready to use force.” Kristol claimed the people of Iran would embrace “the right use of targeted military force.” He added that military force could “trigger changes in Iran,” causing them to embrace regime change.” (Faiz, Think Progress) [...] [...] When I stumbled upon this interview it provided a great deal of relief. Not because it was extremely positive and seemingly rosy. Because its not, in fact its rather dry and skeptical hence the materialization of whats really in the back of everyone’s mind. But because the momentum of the U.S. diplomatic developments with Syria and Iran has reversed. I recall not too long ago writing an article citing Bill Kristol saying, “We can try diplomacy. I’m not very hopeful about that. We have to be ready to use force.” Kristol claimed the people of Iran would embrace “the right use of targeted military force.” He added that military force could “trigger changes in Iran,” causing them to embrace regime change.” (Faiz, Think Progress) [...]

]]> By: Jay Smith http://thinkprogress.org/2006/07/19/kristol-iran/comment-page-8/#comment-956333 Jay Smith Sat, 07 Oct 2006 01:16:07 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/07/19/kristol-iran/#comment-956333 You people wouldn't fight to defend yourselves against ANYTHING! Your views on matters of national security are of no value whatsoever to anyone. You people wouldn’t fight to defend yourselves against ANYTHING! Your views on matters of national security are of no value whatsoever to anyone.

]]> By: Mike http://thinkprogress.org/2006/07/19/kristol-iran/comment-page-8/#comment-749854 Mike Wed, 23 Aug 2006 23:31:13 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/07/19/kristol-iran/#comment-749854 Bill Kristol does not know anything about Iran so his judgment about that country is totally wrong!! The best way to deal with Iran is through direct negotiations. Any military actions against Iran would cause all Iranian to become united and support the regime. But on the contrary, through negations and establishing relationship, the regime would become vulnerable for change. Bill Kristol does not know anything about Iran so his judgment about that country is totally wrong!! The best way to deal with Iran is through direct negotiations. Any military actions against Iran would cause all Iranian to become united and support the regime. But on the contrary, through negations and establishing relationship, the regime would become vulnerable for change.

]]> By: Roy http://thinkprogress.org/2006/07/19/kristol-iran/comment-page-8/#comment-703680 Roy Thu, 03 Aug 2006 01:46:33 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/07/19/kristol-iran/#comment-703680 I find it most intriguing your wish that all of us tree huggers are going to be killed by evil extremists. Now I for one wouldn't wish it on anyone, not even you, idiot, but just one simple point. For the most point most of the people killed in 9-11 were not tree huggers. I mean the targets themself, the World Trade Center, not exactly screams leftist ideology and the Pentagon, not even going to go there. So maybe flowers are safer, although to be truthful the last person I gave a flower to she did appreciate them. As a veteran, 13 years U.S. Navy I guess I earned the peace I fought for. I damn sure earned the freedom to hand out a few flowers if I so choose without idiots like you wishing ill of me. Go straight to hell, if you believe. I find it most intriguing your wish that all of us tree huggers are going to be killed by evil extremists. Now I for one wouldn’t wish it on anyone, not even you, idiot, but just one simple point. For the most point most of the people killed in 9-11 were not tree huggers. I mean the targets themself, the World Trade Center, not exactly screams leftist ideology and the Pentagon, not even going to go there. So maybe flowers are safer, although to be truthful the last person I gave a flower to she did appreciate them. As a veteran, 13 years U.S. Navy I guess I earned the peace I fought for. I damn sure earned the freedom to hand out a few flowers if I so choose without idiots like you wishing ill of me. Go straight to hell, if you believe.

]]> By: jdo gh http://thinkprogress.org/2006/07/19/kristol-iran/comment-page-8/#comment-699269 jdo gh Mon, 31 Jul 2006 23:45:24 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/07/19/kristol-iran/#comment-699269 Dont think for one minute all your tree hugging is going to in any way endear you to a terrorist' heart. They will kill you as fast as they will anyone else. There is a lot of idiology on the airwaves mostly left wing and bitter..... regardless the evil extremists will eventually show you all how stupid you are. Or will kill you outright. We can't just offer them a flower like the hippies of the 60s. Sorry there is a cold hard fact awaiting the left coast and all their stupid followers..... in the end all will die and while you are doing so..... wonder; "why me?' Because you forgot to hand them a flower and a kiss. Bill Kristol may not be right but neither are most of you who have written in such utter nonsense. You don't want war..... just peace. There is a price for peace and you are not willing to pay it. Therefore you don't deserve it. and you sure as hell don't deserve the freedoms paid for by American military who have fought for YOUR rights over the years. Freedom of speech was not meant for idiots like most of you that have written your garbage. Just shut the hell up..... and wait for the next 9/11 coming to a neighborhood near you. Dont think for one minute all your tree hugging is going to in any way endear you to a terrorist’ heart. They will kill you as fast as they will anyone else. There is a lot of idiology on the airwaves mostly left wing and bitter….. regardless the evil extremists will eventually show you all how stupid you are. Or will kill you outright. We can’t just offer them a flower like the hippies of the 60s. Sorry there is a cold hard fact awaiting the left coast and all their stupid followers….. in the end all will die and while you are doing so….. wonder; “why me?’ Because you forgot to hand them a flower and a kiss. Bill Kristol may not be right but neither are most of you who have written in such utter nonsense. You don’t want war….. just peace. There is a price for peace and you are not willing to pay it. Therefore you don’t deserve it. and you sure as hell don’t deserve the freedoms paid for by American military who have fought for YOUR rights over the years. Freedom of speech was not meant for idiots like most of you that have written your garbage. Just shut the hell up….. and wait for the next 9/11 coming to a neighborhood near you.

]]> By: me http://thinkprogress.org/2006/07/19/kristol-iran/comment-page-8/#comment-691921 me Thu, 27 Jul 2006 17:03:31 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/07/19/kristol-iran/#comment-691921 #376 > Muslims fly commercial airliners into buildings in New York City. No Muslim outrage. That is an outright lie. /Iran/ was on America's side just after 9/11 FFS. #376
> Muslims fly commercial airliners into buildings in New York City. No Muslim outrage.
That is an outright lie. /Iran/ was on America’s side just after 9/11 FFS.

]]> By: Roy http://thinkprogress.org/2006/07/19/kristol-iran/comment-page-8/#comment-686091 Roy Mon, 24 Jul 2006 14:31:54 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/07/19/kristol-iran/#comment-686091 I can't believe we would let this chance pass us. We attacked Iraq, a country that had little support for its regime, more than 50,000 Iraqi deaths, once again most of these children's parents didn't support the regime. Now we have the opportunity to go in Iran, a democratically selected regime, and these people have no one to blame but themselves. How can we be blamed for killing a slew of these kids after all their parents supported the past regime. You got to love democracy. go get em! I can’t believe we would let this chance pass us. We attacked Iraq, a country that had little support for its regime, more than 50,000 Iraqi deaths, once again most of these children’s parents didn’t support the regime. Now we have the opportunity to go in Iran, a democratically selected regime, and these people have no one to blame but themselves. How can we be blamed for killing a slew of these kids after all their parents supported the past regime. You got to love democracy. go get em!

]]> By: Wa Salaam » Blog Archive » Bill Kristol says, “We have to be ready to use force” http://thinkprogress.org/2006/07/19/kristol-iran/comment-page-8/#comment-685604 Wa Salaam » Blog Archive » Bill Kristol says, “We have to be ready to use force” Sun, 23 Jul 2006 20:02:18 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/07/19/kristol-iran/#comment-685604 [...] It is as if the politicians and US Officials have learned nothing from debacle in Iraq. I am beginning to believe that there is a theme of world domination underlying these military advances… this morning Bill Kristol appeared on Fox and suggests moving troops into Iran saying, “We can try diplomacy. I’m not very hopeful about that. We have to be ready to use force.” Kristol claimed the people of Iran would embrace “the right use of targeted military force.” He added that military force could “trigger changes in Iran,” causing them to embrace regime change.” (Faiz, Think Progress) Explore posts in the same categories: News, Politics [...] [...] It is as if the politicians and US Officials have learned nothing from debacle in Iraq. I am beginning to believe that there is a theme of world domination underlying these military advances… this morning Bill Kristol appeared on Fox and suggests moving troops into Iran saying, “We can try diplomacy. I’m not very hopeful about that. We have to be ready to use force.” Kristol claimed the people of Iran would embrace “the right use of targeted military force.” He added that military force could “trigger changes in Iran,” causing them to embrace regime change.” (Faiz, Think Progress) Explore posts in the same categories: News, Politics [...]

]]> By: Inside the USA » Une guerre contre la guerre http://thinkprogress.org/2006/07/19/kristol-iran/comment-page-8/#comment-685109 Inside the USA » Une guerre contre la guerre Sun, 23 Jul 2006 00:03:54 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/07/19/kristol-iran/#comment-685109 [...] Car d’autres prétendent aussi à ce titre suprême, quand ils jugent bon d’entrer en guerre contre l’Iran, à la faveur du conflit actuel entre Israël et le Hezbollah. Brrr… [...] [...] Car d’autres prétendent aussi à ce titre suprême, quand ils jugent bon d’entrer en guerre contre l’Iran, à la faveur du conflit actuel entre Israël et le Hezbollah. Brrr… [...]

]]> By: David Carlisle http://thinkprogress.org/2006/07/19/kristol-iran/comment-page-8/#comment-684800 David Carlisle Sat, 22 Jul 2006 18:50:54 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/07/19/kristol-iran/#comment-684800 Comment #367 "Just a reminder of fanatical Islam:" is actually a reminder of a Neil Boortz schpeel from a few months ago. Muslims WERE outraged in the situations Frogcatcher/Boortz cite: spend a few minutes with a search engine and I guarantee you'll find condemnations of Muslim caused-atrocities in newspapers from Jakarta to Rabat. One conservative suggested that the U.S. invade and convert Muslim countries. When that happened, the "William Kristoll"s of Muslim societies said to themselves "Those fanatical Christians/Westerners!! Where's their outrage???" I don't remember the U.S government distancing himself from that comment. By Boortz's logic, all Americans must therefore support forceable conversion of Muslims. Go to American websites and you'll find thousands of people on the political fringe with radically violent attitudes towards Muslims. There are Americans writing letters to the papers saying we should drop a nuclear bomb on Iran. Where's the outrage? As Mr. Kristoll demonstrates, there are people in the west and in the Islamic world for who life is cheap. Why aren't conservatives outraged at Kristoll willing to take the lives of Iranian kids? Don't tell me "self defense"- that's what the radical cleric Ibrahim Khris'tel says. And yeah, in response to #377, I don't know if Iran is a red-state, but their president is a neo-con. He thinks just like William Kristoll. They should have lunch sometime and we can see how long it takes for them to waterboard eachother out of self defense. Comment #367 “Just a reminder of fanatical Islam:” is actually a reminder of a Neil Boortz schpeel from a few months ago. Muslims WERE outraged in the situations Frogcatcher/Boortz cite: spend a few minutes with a search engine and I guarantee you’ll find condemnations of Muslim caused-atrocities in newspapers from Jakarta to Rabat.
One conservative suggested that the U.S. invade and convert Muslim countries. When that happened, the “William Kristoll”s of Muslim societies said to themselves “Those fanatical Christians/Westerners!! Where’s their outrage???”
I don’t remember the U.S government distancing himself from that comment. By Boortz’s logic, all Americans must therefore support forceable conversion of Muslims.
Go to American websites and you’ll find thousands of people on the political fringe with radically violent attitudes towards Muslims. There are Americans writing letters to the papers saying we should drop a nuclear bomb on Iran.
Where’s the outrage?
As Mr. Kristoll demonstrates, there are people in the west and in the Islamic world for who life is cheap. Why aren’t conservatives outraged at Kristoll willing to take the lives of Iranian kids? Don’t tell me “self defense”- that’s what the radical cleric Ibrahim Khris’tel says.
And yeah, in response to #377, I don’t know if Iran is a red-state, but their president is a neo-con. He thinks just like William Kristoll. They should have lunch sometime and we can see how long it takes for them to waterboard eachother out of self defense.

]]> By: nana http://thinkprogress.org/2006/07/19/kristol-iran/comment-page-8/#comment-684735 nana Sat, 22 Jul 2006 16:59:29 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/07/19/kristol-iran/#comment-684735 <strong>I didnt know Kristal was a Jew!!!</strong> I didnt know Kristal was a Jew!!!

]]> By: Hierosis http://thinkprogress.org/2006/07/19/kristol-iran/comment-page-8/#comment-684701 Hierosis Sat, 22 Jul 2006 16:15:49 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/07/19/kristol-iran/#comment-684701 I'd love to see Mr. Kristol and his family personally head up the invasion. Be first on the group to be greeted as heroes and such. :) I’d love to see Mr. Kristol and his family personally head up the invasion. Be first on the group to be greeted as heroes and such. :)

]]> By: DISPASSIONATE OBSERVER http://thinkprogress.org/2006/07/19/kristol-iran/comment-page-8/#comment-684650 DISPASSIONATE OBSERVER Sat, 22 Jul 2006 15:21:25 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/07/19/kristol-iran/#comment-684650 the u.s.cannot do anything about iran.you could unleash some random bombing,but that will only piss them off.to invade you would need at least 500,000 troops,and ain't got 'em unless you institute the draft,then let's seethe shit hit the fan.your military isobsolete.there will be no more conventional wars,you'll be fighting ghosts forever. the u.s.cannot do anything about iran.you could unleash some random bombing,but that will only piss them off.to invade you would need at least 500,000 troops,and ain’t got ‘em unless you institute the draft,then let’s seethe shit hit the fan.your military isobsolete.there will be no more conventional wars,you’ll be fighting ghosts forever.

]]> By: J Brown http://thinkprogress.org/2006/07/19/kristol-iran/comment-page-8/#comment-684580 J Brown Sat, 22 Jul 2006 12:31:08 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/07/19/kristol-iran/#comment-684580 Call the WHITE COATS for this lunatic!!!! This man belongs in an insane asylum! How can anyone take this fanatic seriously?? He is regurgitating the SAME the arguments that got us into Iraq!!! Maybe his fat ass will go to Tehran? Kristol is a WACK JOB!! OUR LAST HOPE IS FOR THE GENERALS AT THE PENTAGON!!!! Call the WHITE COATS for this lunatic!!!! This man belongs in an insane asylum!

How can anyone take this fanatic seriously?? He is regurgitating the SAME the arguments that got us into Iraq!!!

Maybe his fat ass will go to Tehran?

Kristol is a WACK JOB!!

OUR LAST HOPE IS FOR THE GENERALS AT THE PENTAGON!!!!

]]> By: El Cid http://thinkprogress.org/2006/07/19/kristol-iran/comment-page-8/#comment-684388 El Cid Sat, 22 Jul 2006 03:31:44 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/07/19/kristol-iran/#comment-684388 If I had known that "cakewalk" actually meant hellish chaotic war in the Middle East, I would have never gone on any of those church cakewalks as a child. If I had known that “cakewalk” actually meant hellish chaotic war in the Middle East, I would have never gone on any of those church cakewalks as a child.

]]> By: Randall http://thinkprogress.org/2006/07/19/kristol-iran/comment-page-8/#comment-684373 Randall Sat, 22 Jul 2006 03:18:10 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/07/19/kristol-iran/#comment-684373 I believe there's a pertinent quote for this: "Fighting for peace is like screwing for abstinence." I believe there’s a pertinent quote for this: “Fighting for peace is like screwing for abstinence.”

]]> By: Beware The Man » Neocon Genius http://thinkprogress.org/2006/07/19/kristol-iran/comment-page-8/#comment-684306 Beware The Man » Neocon Genius Sat, 22 Jul 2006 01:54:38 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/07/19/kristol-iran/#comment-684306 [...] Here’s a more recent, “more war!” quote from Billy Boy.  This one is about Iran.  What a f**king psycho.  With “influence,” except among those with IQ’s above 90. [...] [...] Here’s a more recent, “more war!” quote from Billy Boy.  This one is about Iran.  What a f**king psycho.  With “influence,” except among those with IQ’s above 90. [...]

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