U.S. military reports 40 percent spike in Baghdad attacks.
By on Jul 20th, 2006 at 1:11 pm
U.S. military reports 40 percent spike in Baghdad attacks.
“U.S. spokesman Maj. Gen. William Caldwell said there has been an average of 34 attacks a day against U.S. and Iraqi forces in the capital over the past five days. The daily average for the period June 14 until July 13 was 24 a day, he said.
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Yep and what is the Bush Regime going to do about it? Kill even more Iraqis probably!
July 20th, 2006 at 1:14 pmTime to pull the troops out or Iraq immediately!
July 20th, 2006 at 1:15 pmDidn’t Caldwell paint a rosey picture last week? Why is he flip flopping? Reality finally set in?
July 20th, 2006 at 1:16 pmof not or
July 20th, 2006 at 1:16 pmyes and your all yellowbellies staying hidden in your bases, instead of protecting the Iraqi— yellowbelly cowards scared to come out,
July 20th, 2006 at 1:16 pmLetter from an American soldier
Dear mummy and daddy
I want to come home now , Promise I will eat all my dinners and go to bed by 8 pm
July 20th, 2006 at 1:20 pm, I dont want to work in the marines anymore Im getting scared staying in the base all day long , And mummy and daddy George bush lied to us he said there was a swing park over here I want really to come home and be breast fed Im so Scared
Anyone want to bet on the number of posts in this thread before some troll spews the “you liberals want america to lose and soldiers to die” line?
I am betting on 11 posts.
July 20th, 2006 at 1:22 pm7# and yes they attacked Iraq cause they were an easy target, cowards go take on iran they mean trouble go on impress me …yellowbellied cowards
July 20th, 2006 at 1:22 pmDamn…I guess killing al-Zarqawi didn’t have the intended effect…perhaps the administration can raise him from the dead (again).
July 20th, 2006 at 1:23 pm7# NO BUT YOUR ALL SHIT SCARED OF NORTH KOREA HA HA HA HA
July 20th, 2006 at 1:23 pmDebased people, over time, will lose all hope and turn into nothing more than clever animals who have nothing to lose.They will lash out as fear is no longer a deterrent . They won’t just lay down and take it forever and that is why the worst is yet to come.
July 20th, 2006 at 1:24 pmThe last last of the last throes?
July 20th, 2006 at 1:24 pmThe Most Dangerous Alliance in the World
By Norman Solomon
t r u t h o u t | Perspective
Thursday 20 July 2006
After getting out of Lebanon, writer June Rugh told Reuters on Tuesday: “As an American, I’m embarrassed and ashamed. My administration is letting it happen [by giving] tacit permission for Israel to destroy a country.” The news service quoted another American evacuee, Andrew Muha, who had been in southern Lebanon. He said: “It’s a travesty. There’s a million homeless in Lebanon and the intense amount of bombing has brought an entire country to its knees.”
Embarrassing. Shameful. A travesty. Those kinds of words begin to describe the alliance between the United States and Israel. Here are a few more: Government criminality. High-tech terror. Mass murder from the skies. The kind of premeditated action that the US representative in Nuremberg at the International Conference on Military Trials – Supreme Court Justice Robert L. Jackson – was talking about on August 12, 1945, when he declared that “no grievances or policies will justify resort to aggressive war. It is utterly renounced and condemned as an instrument of policy.”
The United States and Israel. Right now, it’s the most dangerous alliance in the world.
July 20th, 2006 at 1:27 pmBut Jebus told Bush to attack Iraq to bring peace to the Middle East
July 20th, 2006 at 1:32 pmThe American soldiers attacked Iraq cause they were an easy target
They had the shit blasted out of the Iraqi Army for 6 months before the war started and also the UN was destroying all there stockpiles of weapons that were any use to defend them selfs, Flat terrain
Even China made a better job of invading Tibet with monks as troops
Yellowbellied chicken shit cowards
Read 8# A letter from a marines
July 20th, 2006 at 1:33 pm#16
July 20th, 2006 at 1:34 pmOne thing. Powell deserves just as much of the blame as anyone. He wasn’t active in the military when this invasion happened. He was the Secretary of State.
Gosh, pretty soon Baghdad’s street will be as bad as Washington D.C.’s. Cough.
July 20th, 2006 at 1:35 pmI think we should start seding the great wise pundits and cheerleaders such as Kristo,Fukuyama, that moron Hitchens and all the other lovely people entrenched at AEI.
Perhaps it would be easier to just move the whole AEI builidng of think-tank genii to Iraq and plop these “problem solvers”[coff hack hack] into Iraq and let THEM figure out how to stop what they helped to create.
And next door to AEI we will put Fox news and the murdoch murderers of newscorp hate monger media.
July 20th, 2006 at 1:36 pm#But Jebus told Bush to attack Iraq to bring peace to the Middle East
Comment by Jebus loves me — July 20, 2006 @ 1:32 pm
Of all of the people in the world an all-knowing Saviour could have chosen to accomplish the task, the best he could come up with was George W. Bush?
July 20th, 2006 at 1:38 pmBlame the U.S. officials who reported this increased #
-Peggy Noonan
July 20th, 2006 at 1:39 pmAmerican troops cannot fight their way out paper bag, they are scared tucked up in their bomb proof beds after being read a story from the camp commander at nights they finaly fall asleep after their bottle and bath
Yellow bellied cowards go on stay in your camps , cause the insurgency is waiting outside the front gates for you
There all scared and want to come home ……….. ha ha ha ha
July 20th, 2006 at 1:39 pmYou won’t be hearing much of the trolls today, they got a big smackdown early this morning, it will be a littlle while before they get their government [nsd-77] talking point stamp of approval on their buckley fax du jour.
July 20th, 2006 at 1:41 pmMission Accomplished Redux!
Bush can lick my anus.
July 20th, 2006 at 1:42 pmReply to #26 (Time Capsule):
Are you seriously that starved for attention?
That’s perhaps the most pathetic thing I’ve ever seen.
July 20th, 2006 at 1:42 pmOur good friends the Saudis… they are just SOOO sincere…
http://www.cnn.com/2006/EDUCATION/07/20/saudi.textbooks/index.html
July 20th, 2006 at 1:43 pmTime capsule I get your point.
If you keep repeating it I could only suspect that you are trying to promote the idea that this site thinks the troops are cowards.
You have made YOUR point, now knock the crap off please, Thanks.
July 20th, 2006 at 1:45 pm26# Unfortunately its true the americans are staying in their bases, dont know about the bottle and bath bit but thats probably also true
July 20th, 2006 at 1:45 pmJebus works in mysterious ways……
There is also the distinct possibility that Bush forgot to take his medication that day.
July 20th, 2006 at 1:50 pmJebus works in mysterious ways……
[snip]
Comment by Jebus loves me — July 20, 2006 @ 1:50 pm
Boy, I’ll say!
July 20th, 2006 at 1:52 pmFreedom is on the march!
and WTF is wrong with Time Capsule?
trolls are dumb…
July 20th, 2006 at 1:56 pm26# Time
You must be from the UK
July 20th, 2006 at 2:00 pmThe queens christmas present last year to all her troops in Iraq was indeed Bomb Proof beds
As far as I know the American soldiers dont have them.
Time Capfull of sh*t, far from your pathetic little pissing in the wind statements. The soldiers that proudly serve this country are currently in their barracks because of direct orders. We have the mightiest military in the world and if unleashed would lay waist to the entire region. That is not there orders. the mission itself is the problem. They are being used as a police force now.
July 20th, 2006 at 2:00 pmWe have the mightiest military in the world and if unleashed would lay waist to the entire region. That is not there orders. the mission itself is the problem. They are being used as a police force now.
If only they had been allowed to “lay waist [sic] to the region.” Imagine how much better of we’d be…
July 20th, 2006 at 2:18 pm37 an american – egostatistical menace – we got such a big military killing machine – we are the biggest and best
The soldiers that proudly serve this country are currently in their barracks because of direct orders.
The direct Order
July 20th, 2006 at 2:21 pmNow I want all you troops to stay in tonight, that means no going out and raping and murdering 14 year old boys and girls , You are all confined to barracks until further notice
#37-american,
The age old coward mantra : Just following orders.
Just so you know, being ordered to murder, and then following through on that order, then makes you a murderer. You imply an “honor” that is unearned and an immunity that is not valid.
July 20th, 2006 at 2:23 pm40 yeah war is hell and people die. Since the beginning of time there has been armies that kill. Call them murderers, it was those murderers that secured where you live now. As for cap o’ shit, nothing but a pimple on my ass.
July 20th, 2006 at 2:30 pm#41-american,
I agree that Time Capsule is just being obnoxious and inflammatory. I think any reasonably intelligent being can identify that quite quickly.
Now, you say war is “hell” and I agree wholeheartedly. For this reason, war should be the last resort of a civilized and moral society. Do you believe likewise?
Oh, and no “murderers” have secured where I am now. I would not consider myself “free” if my existence was made possible by the murder of innocents. Would you?
July 20th, 2006 at 2:45 pm42 Humanist, correct me if I’m wrong but you live in Europe. If so, that region has gone thru many more wars the the US. The Feudal system, 100 years war, the many crusades. All and more murdered innocents.
I agree that military might should be the last resort. But when it’s used it destroys.
July 20th, 2006 at 2:51 pm#43 42 Humanist, correct me if I’m wrong but you live in Europe. If so, that region has gone thru many more wars the the US. The Feudal system, 100 years war, the many crusades. All and more murdered innocents.
Comment by an american — July 20, 2006 @ 2:51 pm
In 200 years? Nah.
July 20th, 2006 at 2:59 pm#43-american,
I live on the third planet from the sun, Earth. It is the only planet inhabitable by humans in our solar system so I feel comfortable assuming that we live in the same “placeâ€.
I owe my existence to my parents.
My freedom is the result of the teachings of my parents, the education that I have received and continue to receive, and my own intellect.
Who are you enslaved to that were able to convince you that you must do their bidding in order to be free?
May peace be with us all.
July 20th, 2006 at 3:09 pmEvil Spaniard, WW1 and WW2 didn’t happen then huh? And Franco was a great guy.
July 20th, 2006 at 3:09 pm#45. And you live in a bubble? You don’t pay taxes? You don’t live in any neighborhood? You write in a wonderful utopian view but the reality is that someone at sometime has fought and died for you to be where you are. Wonderful concept for all of God’s children to be kind and all are free but look around. borders exist and will be defended.
July 20th, 2006 at 3:14 pm#47-american,
So the fact that I am completely free irritates you? I suggest that you revisit your position on that.
Since you do obviously do not have the education, I will share with you mine. All limitations are self imposed. Until you realize that, you will never be free.
And once again, my existence has not been made possible through murder. I can not state it any simpler than that.
May peace be with us all.
July 20th, 2006 at 3:24 pmHumanist, I am not in the least bit irratated by anything you profess. Education or lack there of appears to be an attack or put down. Again look at my first sentence. Existentialism is a great concept. You didn’t answer any question such as taxes, community. Possible prior forced enlistment. Your existence in and of itself has not been made possible thru murder. Never professed that. But where you live has. That is a fact. Bad things have happend in the world and will continue to do so. I’m sure Tibetian monks would approve the path you have chosen and I, for one, will not begrudge you of it. But you are avoiding my questions. Any place on this planet has, at one time or another, been fought for and people have died and been killed. Right or wrong, just or unjust it still is so.
July 20th, 2006 at 3:30 pmat some point one must put down the club and stop the blame then slap routine. It is called conscious evolution and the way I look at what is going on now is that this is the death, the climax of the “caveman” in human beings. Those least suited to bring forth peaceful human change towards evolution are now in power and they unknowingly will DRAG us all violently towards this change for the better, the survival of the species.Nature always bring things into balance, sometimes in the strangest of ways.
July 20th, 2006 at 3:32 pm#49-american,
You have heard nothing of what I have said. Please open your mind.
I am a resident of the planet Earth. No murders made my residency possible nor would I accept residency if that was the price.
The borders that you murder to maintain do not exist in reality, they exist only in your mind. Fences do good neighbors make but borders only create enemies and a false sense of security.
And I was not “putting you down†for a lack of education. I merely stated what I saw and then attempted to help. My education is very valuable to me yet I will share it with anyone who requests such. It does not make me better than anyone, or smarter than anyone, that’s a fool’s arrogance.
War does not create peace, peace overcomes war.
May peace be with us all.
July 20th, 2006 at 3:46 pmLet’s see, how many years have there been peace on this planet and how many years has there been war? You have avoided the direct questions. Contrary to what you may think, I do understand stance on which you put forth. And do appreciate your beliefs. You choose not to debate the cold hard facts of the politics that do sorround you and affect you every day. So be it.
July 20th, 2006 at 3:55 pm#52-american,
The Earth is not at war, only foolish men with dubious motives are at war. You accept war as a natural state, and that is where your problem starts. If you cannot see that war is an abomination, then you will always find ways to justify it with the limited intellect that you put forth on the task.
As far as debating the “cold hard facts”, that is all that I do. You choose to bend the facts to meet your political goals and nationalistic agenda. Facts don’t bend, that is called “deception”.
May peace be with us all.
July 20th, 2006 at 4:07 pmEarth has always been at war. Wish it weren’t so but it is. Natural or not it always has been. Yes war is an abomination perpetrated by men and I don’t attempt to justify it but I do see it. You don’t debate the cold hard facts, you stand above the fray showing all who read how we all much love and respect each other. Great concept. No bending here. The only way for your concepts to work is if the entire world would give up their arms and join together for a common good. As much as anyone would want this, it’s not going to happen any time soon. Is it a fact you pay taxes or not? Do you drive a car? Do you wear clothes? All of these would be considered by rational beings to be questions answered with facts. Haven’t seen any answers, only philisophical lecturing.
July 20th, 2006 at 4:30 pm#54-american,
Has the Earth initiated a war with another planet or celestial object? Are you really that obtuse?
Also, please reference any “non facts†that I have presented or debated. You claim that I don’t debate facts and then offer nothing specific or factual. Dubious at best, sir.
Lastly, I see clearly your problem. You say that a peaceful world would be wonderful, and then you immediately say that it is impossible. Such defeatism is akin to standing at the starting blocks of a race while loudly professing that you cannot win. Of course you will lose, you quit before the race began. And you speak as if “peace†must be won through violence. You have it all backwards. Peace is the natural state of things, war is the abomination that breaks the peace. It’s not the other way around. You have been fooled.
And do the clothes that I wear have any bearing on the truths that I speak? Once again, are you really that obtuse?
Peace.
July 20th, 2006 at 4:40 pmThen please answer the simple questions. Do you pay taxes? do you drive a car? Do you eat? Where is peace the natural state of things? Show me that. Surely not in nature. Yours is a conceptual utopia that you will achieve in your own mind but not in the masses. I don’t profess that peace will be won thru violence. Your words, not mine. Your truths are relative to the arguments you proudly exclaim but are not going to get Israel out of Lebanon, or US out of Iraq.
July 20th, 2006 at 4:53 pm56 and this can be shown how?????? Peace between the cavemen? surely no dinosaurs killed each other. The Aztecs or Incas, no killing there. Your peace is mythical
July 20th, 2006 at 4:55 pmPeace is then a term created by humans. What is peace? happy coexistence? If humans have only been on the planet for 10 to 12 thousand years how do we know there was peace? Since humans it’s been a pretty steady diet of war.
July 20th, 2006 at 5:02 pm#57-american,
I believe that you forgot the question “boxers or briefs?” Your innate absurdity is beyond my ability to address at this time. I hope that you take the time to really think about what I have already said to you. I am certain that the answers you seek are there, it’s only a matter of you being willing to see them.
May peace be with us all.
July 20th, 2006 at 5:02 pm61 Humanist. I wish you all the best in your goal to attain nirvana. You neglected to show your actual existence on this planet and I guess I don’t expect you to. Truth is there are bad things that happen all around us. It is the true nature of man on how to overcome these obstacles whether they are natural or man made. We haven’t excelled enough on this planet act as one. Maybe someday someone will look to your writings as the true begining of the age of enlightment but we aren’t there yet.
July 20th, 2006 at 5:07 pmBlue, I tend to be a realist and the reality is war happens and humans cause it. Is it possible to rid the world of war? Sure but not any time soon. I don’t want to see any war and I definitely don’t want our soldiers being sent off to die for a lie. This thread originated due to the increase in attacks in Bahgdad. Sectarian attacks that were predicted if we (US) executed poorly and didn’t offer a better path such as working power, jobs, proper sanitation. Now our options are limited and quite shitty. Pull out and leave the entire region in chaos? continue as we are to be closer when the civil war fully erupts. Escalate and kill untold more innocents. Bad things happen all too often. Lofty ideals don’t correct this. True people with action and conviction do.
July 20th, 2006 at 5:16 pmLou Dobbs show is running a little segment now on the disaster in Iraq. Earlier, Pt Buchanan was almost beside himself in frustration and anger at the neocons and their lead into this horrific mistake that we will pay for through the foreseeable future.
July 20th, 2006 at 6:29 pmThis will be Bush’s legacy – and unfortunately ours as well.
But, but, but… they keep telling us that things are going swell in Baghdad. I mean, if Energy Secretary Bodman said so yesterday, it’s got to be true, right?
/sarcasm meter off
July 20th, 2006 at 6:31 pmSoldiers are not decision makers. They carry out policy. They are cogs in a large wheel turning. Don’t blame the soldiers.
Comment by Bluedog49 — July 20, 2006 @ 1:28 pm
So nazi soldiers that threw jews into the ovens are not be blamed?
July 20th, 2006 at 8:07 pmSince the beginning of time there has been armies that kill.
Comment by an american
What time are you talking about? It seems to me that you are trying to justify war because it is natural to humans…so US is the closest thing to humanity: a war provider.
Well, wrong. And, just common sense…remember when you were a kid and you were in school? HOw many friends did you have and how many enemies? Please do tell. I am guessing you are an adult, please, tell me how many personal enemies (not the ones your TV screams at you) do you have right now? Are you happier with having friends or with having enemies? This seems ridiculous, but its not…its human nature. Just look at kids, they get along even when someone is different, or hit themselves…at the end of the day they want to make friends…
July 20th, 2006 at 8:17 pmNow…WAR was invented by powerful people to drive poor ignorant people to fight for POWERFUL PEOPLE´S interests.