Sen. Inhofe: ‘Gore Is Full of Crap,’ ‘All Recent Science…Confirms This Thing Is A Hoax’
Sen. Inhofe: ‘Gore Is Full of Crap,’ ‘All Recent Science…Confirms This Thing Is A Hoax’
Yesterday, Sen. James Inhofe (R-OK) attacked Al Gore and global warming science, claiming that Gore was “full of crap” on global warming.
Appearing on Glenn Beck’s radio show and CNN television program, Inhofe said that the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC), which concluded that global warming was real and caused by humans, used “one scientist.” Inhofe added: “[A]ll of the recent science…it confirms that I was right on this thing. This thing is a hoax.” Watch it:
Actually, “all of the recent science” — without exception — accepts that global warming is real and caused by humans. The IPCC didn’t involve “one scientist.” It involved thousands of scientists from over 120 countries, including so-called “climate skeptics” and industry representatives. The National Academy of Sciences recently concluded that the one study singled out by Inhofe for criticism, which was authored by Michael Mann, “has subsequently been supported by an array of evidence.â€
Full transcript:
Senator James Inhofe has been very vocal in saying that a lot of the statistics used by proponents of the man-made global warming theory are either misleading or just plain wrong. In fact, I think he said on my radio show earlier today that Al Gore was full of crap.
Now, from Washington, D.C., Senator James Inhofe.
As I pointed out to the radio listeners, you`re a pretty brave guy, because, you know, if you come out against global warming you`re either a nut job or you`re just clearly in bed with big oil, and thus you should have no credibility.
SEN. JAMES INHOFE (R), OKLAHOMA: Yes, well, you know, I have to say this, and I`d say that probably 75 percent of the viewers that are watching this right now have bought into this thing, this global warming thing, in saying that it was manmade gases. And I was the same way 3 1/2 years ago when I became of the Senate Committee on Environment and Public Works. And so I thought — right then, you might remember the Horton econometrics survey…
BECK: Oh, who doesn`t?
INHOFE: … that came out. And they said how much it would cost America if we signed onto the Kyoto treaty, about $2,750 per family per year in the price of energy and all that.
Anyway, I saw that, and I thought, “Well, it`s my responsibility as a chairman to make sure that the science justifies this kind of loss.” And the more I checked into it, the things started with the United Nations, the International Panel on Climate Control, and they used one scientist. And his name was Michael Mann, the famous hockey stick — remember that — where he plotted the temperatures that went all the way across on a horizontal line, then you got to the 20th century and it started going up.
Well, one thing they forgot to do is put in the medieval warming period, which was from about 900 to 1400 A.D., when it was warmer then than it is now.BECK: Well, and here`s the thing. When you see…
INHOFE: So in all of the recent science, as I`ve mentioned on your radio show, it confirms that I was right on this thing. This thing is a hoax.
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man, you guys just won’t let this global warming thing go. Whats wrong with warmer days? It leads to scantily clad woman.(remeber it’s a privilage not a right, just like spandex)
July 21st, 2006 at 11:33 amI am so grateful to Think Progress for providing transcripts whenever possible so I don’t have to actually listen to these escapees from padded cell institutions.
July 21st, 2006 at 11:35 amLet’s see, full of crap doesn’t Inhofe have brown eyes? Wonder just who is full of crap.
July 21st, 2006 at 11:36 amSenator Inhofe must have read Michael Crichton’s State of Fear.
(Wow…I almost managed to say that with a straight face…)
July 21st, 2006 at 11:37 amGee, I wonder who his campaign contributors are.
July 21st, 2006 at 11:37 am“…..about $2,750 per family per year in the price of energy and all that.
Anyway, I saw that, and I thought, “Well, it`s my responsibility as a chairman to make sure that the science justifies this kind of loss.â€
Rising gas prices already cost my family $2750 per year more since GW took office. I’d like to know how Mr. Inhofe justfies that cost. Truth is, that it would cost the American consumer for corporations to become more ecologically responsible, but since the initial costs would be borne by big business, in particular those that enjoy Mr. Inhofe’s legislative affections, he is suddenly concerned over ‘our’ extra expenditures.
Another Republican Jackass.
July 21st, 2006 at 11:39 amTrying to find nobility in either the Senate or House is a bit like feeling around for a quarter on the floor of a dark movie theater. The reward is not worth the search. And Inhofe makes Paris Hilton look intellectual.
July 21st, 2006 at 11:40 amLying asshole. He gets paid while we cook ourselves in our own atmosphere.
July 21st, 2006 at 11:41 amI’d like to ask Mr. Inhofe what it feels like to go through life using only the dumbass lobe of one’s brain.
July 21st, 2006 at 11:41 amAnd will someone please ask Senator Inhofe what the per family cost is of the Iraq war?
July 21st, 2006 at 11:42 amThe real villians are the folks at CNN, who gave this bullshit artist air time and collaborated in the dissemination of his lies.
They must be taking a page from the ‘Fair & Balanced’ Faux News.
July 21st, 2006 at 11:43 amOKC is gonna hit 110 today, I’m not saying it’s global warming, I’m just saying 110 degrees and one of my representatives lying his ass off on national TV is just a crappy day to start the weekend.
So, 110 degrees, Inhofe lying about global warming, Coburn distorting the stem cells issue and Istook running for Governor amid his campaign audit.
Let’s keep electing those conservatives Oklahoma.
July 21st, 2006 at 11:44 amHere’s the answer to my own question in post #5. What a shock.
http://www.opensecrets.org/ politicians/ indus.asp?CID=N00005582&cycle=2006
July 21st, 2006 at 11:44 ameven if these people are dead wrong they will fight and claim they are right. the instinct of self-preservation has reached new heights with them.
July 21st, 2006 at 11:47 amHey Inhofe, Say that Hoax bit while standing under the head of any glacier
July 21st, 2006 at 11:48 amAccording to the information compiled by the Center for Responsive Politics, the oil and gas industry has consistently been the major contributor to Inhofe’s campaign ever since he became a Senator in 1996.
July 21st, 2006 at 11:48 amAnd the more I checked into it, the things started with the United Nations, the International Panel on Climate Control, and they used one scientist. And his name was Michael Mann
Wow, you would think that a Chairman on the Committee of Environment and Public Works wouldn’t go on TV and say something that incorrect. How classy is it to go on National television and say “Full of Crap”?
July 21st, 2006 at 11:50 amWho the hell is Glenn Beck? It seems like every time I pass by CNN, his show is on.
July 21st, 2006 at 11:50 amWell…
The fact that he refers to it as this “global warming thing” shows what an ignorant *** he is.
July 21st, 2006 at 11:51 amThere’s one thing that these right wing nut jobs never answer.
What is Gore’s motivation to lie? What are the motivations to lie for the 1000s of climatologists that agree global warming is happening?
The motive for the oil companies to download global warming is obvious: they don’t want their line of business regulated and revenues decreased.
July 21st, 2006 at 11:51 amMikey: Here’s the answer to my own question in post #5. What a shock. - - It’s no shock, although disappointing, that the Oil & Gas industry’s top 20 recipients of contributions are all Republican. Gosh, I wonder why we don’t have energy policy reform in this country.
July 21st, 2006 at 11:51 amAccording to the information compiled by the Center for Responsive Politics, the oil and gas industry has consistently been the major contributor to Inhofe’s campaign ever since he became a Senator in 1996.
They are certainly getting value for money. Does this guy do anything else?
All this obsessing over a study made almost a decade ago, at this stage it’s almost who cares? As TP point out the vast bulk of the data point in the direction of Global Warming occurring. What “science” is this numbskull referring to?
This is the first I’ve heard that “all the recent science … etc.”, and I follow this thing quite closely. Is he just lying?
July 21st, 2006 at 11:52 amParrot: “What is Gore’s motivation to lie? What are the motivations to lie for the 1000s of climatologists that agree global warming is happening?” - - To the first question, the Right will say he’s just staying in the public eye because he has a huge ego and/or he’s going to run again.
July 21st, 2006 at 11:55 amTo your second question, I personally know people who claim that it’s just a bunch of scientists, politicians and media people who want to draw attention to themselves so they feel important.
We live among these people.
#21, you’re right - it’s no shock, I was being sarcastic, and pissed off. These irresponsible politicians go on TV and poison the minds of millions of Americans and I’m tired of it. Here’s an idea, how about “The Truth Channel”?
July 21st, 2006 at 11:56 amYIKES!!!!
July 21st, 2006 at 11:57 am#23 Badmoodman - Sadly, I figured that was the case… Maybe I was hoping a sensible answer might surface from the wingnuts…
July 21st, 2006 at 11:57 amLets send Mr. Inhofe back to Oklahoma to live in a tent for the rest of the summer so he can contemplate the dangers which will be caused by global warming. If global warming persists this will not be a record heat wave but the normal summer temperatures.
July 21st, 2006 at 11:58 amIf Inhofe is funded by oil & gas industry what industry would fund Gore’s global warming message, seeing as how Inhofe believes that Gore is “full of crap”?
Gore must be propagandizing for the truth industry.
July 21st, 2006 at 11:58 amAnother whacko from the reichwingnuts in the deliverance wing of the fascist GOP. They will say anything to defend the profiteering of the military industrial complex and oil companies. What a worthless tool this guy is. It is hard to learn anything when you have your mind made up to not learn
“Willingness, honesty and open mindedness are the essentials of recovery. But these are indispensable.
There is a principle which is a bar against all information, which is proof against all arguments and which cannot fail to keep a man in everlasting ignorance that principle is contempt prior to investigation… ”
—Herbert Spencer
July 21st, 2006 at 11:59 amQuick…someone call Inhofe’s office and ask what his source is that claims the IPCC used only one scientist.
I would, but the wife has my cell phone today (her’s is on the blink).
July 21st, 2006 at 11:59 amUmmm… Define Warmer…
Here it’s going to be over 100F for three straight days this weekend.
Personally (being a pesky northerner) I like mid-50s F. Anything over 70F I find uncomfortably hot. Now that is fine, perhaps I’m just in the wrong climate… But when the whole planet ends up in the wrong climate there is nowhere for me to go.
Anchorage, AK is predicted to be 63 this weekend… Should I have to move to Alaska so that I can be comfortable? How much room is there in Alaska for everyone who would have to move there (including plants and animals?)
Z.
July 21st, 2006 at 11:59 amAnd Americans voted for him to be one of their senator.
July 21st, 2006 at 12:00 pmSimply amazing!
We don’t have sufficient collective intelligence to survive.
If we continue this way, rest of the world will realize that their differences are insignificant compared to immediate threat posed by us Americans.
Squegeboo;
July 21st, 2006 at 12:00 pmBut you might go around clad in nothing but a swimsuit and a towel which might distress the neighborhood.
I think there’s another, more subtle reason for Republicans discrediting global warming–they want to control what people are afraid of. As long as they can play the terrorism card, they’re able to dictate what Americans fear and when they fear it. Global warming threatens to take that monopoly away from them, and give Americans something else to be worried about.
July 21st, 2006 at 12:01 pmThe ’science’ of political contributions is a road paved to HELL for these lying, corrupt schmucks.
July 21st, 2006 at 12:02 pmIgnorance is strength is the Republican motto for their collective group of dumb asses
July 21st, 2006 at 12:02 pmIPCC used one scientist? All recent science say that man-made global warming is a hoax? Tupac is alive? Saddam had nukes? Clinton killed Vince Foster?
Wow, I didn’t know these things. Thank you Senator Inhofe for informing me.
July 21st, 2006 at 12:06 pmFlag burning and global warming linked. (And Inhofe is the missing link.)
July 21st, 2006 at 12:07 pm……say there Squijjy Bo-Bob, yer head honcho Republican don’ even need no scanteeely clad wimmen to git all hetted up and grabby-ass…..
July 21st, 2006 at 12:08 pm……say there lil’ Georgy, how about demonstrating some respect for the lives of living people instead of sqauwking so much about respect for the lifeforce within a few score cells…….
Moderated by Admin.
July 21st, 2006 at 12:09 pmI think there’s another, more subtle reason for Republicans discrediting global warming–they want to control what people are afraid of. As long as they can play the terrorism card, they’re able to dictate what Americans fear and when they fear it. Global warming threatens to take that monopoly away from them, and give Americans something else to be worried about.
Comment by Bob’s Your Uncle — July 21, 2006 @ 12:01 pm
I agree. Plus, I think Bush is downplaying it because he and/or the Republicans didn’t think of it first. A Democrat is leading the charge…oh the horror of it all!
July 21st, 2006 at 12:12 pmThanks TP for keeping Global Warming on the radar. Its easy to get sidetracked with all the other immediate crisis going on, this needs to stay in everyone’s mind until major changes take place.
July 21st, 2006 at 12:13 pm23 Badmoodman
July 21st, 2006 at 12:15 pmI think you are correct. My response would be that I much prefer Al Gore’s well deserved ego over Bush and Company’s id.
The Republicans are completely out of step with the vast majority of the American public on this. It’s a losing issue for them, they know it, and the only way they can address it is by dismissing it as a fraud.
July 21st, 2006 at 12:17 pmOil & Gas $311,208
What a coincidence
July 21st, 2006 at 12:20 pmIf I were from Oklahoma, I would be truly embarrassed. What am I Saying? Our state has Bunning and McConnell. This guy is a genius compared to Bunning.
July 21st, 2006 at 12:25 pmah, i love the smell of a good global warming piece on think progress in the morning!!!
it is before noon, and we have two of them already… looks to possibly be a record day of think progress following the ’shiney object’ of a debate that is settled and whose sole purpose is to distract the people away from the issues less settled. the issues that are not worn and tattered. those who, such as this moron from the senate, say such things is a non-factor. just a ragged old tattered dog barking in the neighbors yard. ignore it!!!
think progress and the progressives ought to be better than that. to fight the same fight over and over again is POINTLESS. YOU WON!!!!
how is barack’s drive going??? i am on the edge of my seat…please tell.
July 21st, 2006 at 12:27 pmCongress is an embarressment. IF any engineer or scientist or computer programmer acted like these fools in the type of work I do they would be fired promptly… and I am not one for firing people… in fact I always want to give people 2nd or 3rd chances… but out right lies about things that are empirical is shameful and unprofessional.
July 21st, 2006 at 12:28 pmBrokaw even did a special on this for Discovery. Believe me, it is real. And, Inhofe shows himself to be a full-fledged member of the Conservatives without Conscience crowd.
July 21st, 2006 at 12:28 pmInhofe is completely full of steaming crap, so he can shut up his damn lying trench mouth!
July 21st, 2006 at 12:29 pm“You cannot convince a person to believe something if his income depends on not believing it.” Quote by a famous person, whom I can’t remember now.
How much of Inhofe’s donations come from the energy industry? They definitely do not want any diminution in the use of fossil fuels, and their man Inhofe won’t let them down.
July 21st, 2006 at 12:33 pmI actually saw an Inconvenient Truth and cannot necessarily argue the facts of global warming, but it was a pack of lies. For one thing, Gore claimed brining down “the wall” was a bi-partisan effort. That is an outright LIE. Democrats fought Reagan tooth and nail to keep communism alive. Harkin, Kerry and the rest of the ignorant lot even made up lies about the Contras to keep commies in power.
Why the left is pushing a has-been sore loser like Gore is beyond me. Nonetheless, thanks!
July 21st, 2006 at 12:33 pmReply to Suck the Baby’s Skull Out:
I actually saw an Inconvenient Truth and cannot necessarily argue the facts of global warming, but it was a pack of lies.
That single sentence sums you up admirably, Suck.
July 21st, 2006 at 12:37 pm#54….I actually saw an Inconvenient Truth and cannot necessarily argue the facts of global warming, but it was a pack of lies.
At least you declared that you don’t know what you’re talking about.
July 21st, 2006 at 12:40 pmNo. 54 -For one thing, Gore claimed brining down “the wall†was a bi-partisan effort.
Reagan didn’t do shit to bring down any wall, Photo-op speaches don’t bring down walls, failing communist government does. Notice how the only “lie” that sucker-baby mentioned was something COMPLETELY unrelated to the Global warming debate.
July 21st, 2006 at 12:40 pmHarkin, Kerry and the rest of the ignorant lot even made up lies about the Contras to keep commies in power.
[snip]
Comment by Suck the Baby’s Skull Out — July 21, 2006 @ 12:33 pm
What, exactly, were those lies, and what’s your source for proving that they were lies?
July 21st, 2006 at 12:44 pmIn the interest of keeping an open mind, check out this editorial from a climatologist at MIT who thinks dissent and true ‘debate’ on global warming doesn’t really take place. He served on the IPCC, but thought the report’s summary was misleading.
The way to convince people like Inhofe that global warming is caused by human activity is to acknowledge that dissent among climatologists does indeed exist and adress that dissent head-on with facts.
July 21st, 2006 at 12:45 pmThe Republicans..the Party of Lies. They tell so many blatant lies that it’s impossible to trust anything a Republican says anymore.
July 21st, 2006 at 12:47 pmI actually saw an Inconvenient Truth and cannot necessarily argue the facts of global warming, but it was a pack of lies. For one thing, Gore claimed brining down “the wall†was a bi-partisan effort. That is an outright LIE. Democrats fought Reagan tooth and nail to keep communism alive. Harkin, Kerry and the rest of the ignorant lot even made up lies about the Contras to keep commies in power.
Why the left is pushing a has-been sore loser like Gore is beyond me. Nonetheless, thanks!
Comment by Suck the Baby’s Skull Out
And you dont feel embarressed with these lies of yours at all?
I grew up right wing republican.. I still like Reagan … fact is however that all people were happy about the berlin wall coming down. Also the USA was guilty in the Iran-Contra affair in support death squads that murdered south americans NOT USSR communists… there is nothing wrong with calling yourself ANYTHING … including communist… your actions make the difference… the “communists” in guatemala were just normal people that were taking their country back from American backed companies… and they paid for that with their lives…
The left supports Gore probably because he is a basically honest person which is why the right hate him so much… they want to live in fantasy land and TRUTH messes that up for them.
July 21st, 2006 at 12:48 pmdoublethink
July 21st, 2006 at 12:53 pmUse this clip against him. Anybody this stupid should not be in any government. It is criminal for OK to be represented by someone so stupid.
July 21st, 2006 at 12:54 pmMeanwhile, as non-scientists debate non-scientists about, of course, incredibly sophisticated SCIENCE, the real question is whether or not there will be any Iraqis left to witness next week. Americans are murdering innocent people and performing GENOCIDE for all the world to see and the issue that you all choose to “discuss” is whether or not the pollution spewed from your gluttony is harmful to the planet? An issue, by the way, resolved in the 70’s but, amazingly, beyond the comprehension of today’s “intellectual” American.
American ignorance is as vast, it seems, as its lack of morality and decency. I’m wondering, how many murders do you have to commit before it becomes an issue to you?
And a little hint for you: The “terrorists” you seek are no further away than your bathroom mirror.
Wake up!
May peace be with us all.
July 21st, 2006 at 12:55 pm[…] They can’t be so stupid as to believe this. Thay can’t be so brainlesss as to not know the facts. So,they must be lying. “One scientist”? Try thousands of scientists. Lies lies lies lies. Delusion. Paranoia. […]
July 21st, 2006 at 12:59 pmHumanist,
some of the more astute posters here are Americans. Please don’t lump us all together.
Peace and Blessings to you as well.
July 21st, 2006 at 1:00 pmOur state has Bunning and McConnell. This guy is a genius compared to Bunning.
Comment by bmc// — July 21, 2006 @ 12:25 pm
Yeah, what happened to Bunning? From Hall of Fame pitcher to Hall of Fame wingnut.
July 21st, 2006 at 1:02 pmwell said, humanist.
it is downright shameful, in my opinion, for think progress to day after day after day beat the same dead horse of global warming. it must make them feel as if they are really doing something cool and ‘progressive’.
it is really ‘progressive-lite’ sort of posturing, and does not move the ball forward at all. think progress merely hypnotizes its community with the shiney object, whilst, as you say, the unsettled issues that are NOW, such as the united states supporting the genocide in lebanon, go silent.
i think the root of this silliness is the funding of think progress and its board of old clinton folks… as you may have read elsewhere, bill clinton will be supporting lieberman. it is telling that podesta and other clintonites run this site and that such stories go untouched!
think progress is pro-israeli and, one can only assume, derive a substantial amount of their contributions from pro-israeli, middle of the road, clinton democrats.
July 21st, 2006 at 1:03 pmThe real villians are the folks at CNN, who gave this bullshit artist air time and collaborated in the dissemination of his lies.
They must be taking a page from the ‘Fair & Balanced’ Faux News.
Comment by TripMaster Monkey — July 21, 2006 @ 11:43 am
This is the real concern. When will CNN allow the truth to be told? On CNN International at 3 AM?
We really need to target CNN.
And BTW, I never watch FOX but see clips of Democrarts on their network, why?
July 21st, 2006 at 1:03 pm#64, Humanist - Sorry, I thought discussing Global Warming and the future of THE ENTIRE PLANET AND ALL ITS SPECIES (not just greedy humans) was a pretty relevant thing here, considering this thread is about what Sen. Inhofe stated with regard to global warming. I had no idea that we should immediately switch gears back to Iraq in this thread in addition to the new thread from the main page that, well, dicusses the war in Iraq.
Global warming is extremely important to talk about because it affects the entire planet and all species of life, plant and animal. If we do not start taking action now, whether or not a war is going on, we are merely contributing to future destruction and demise.
I don’t know about you, but the comprehension of my average “intellectual†American brain can handle discussing, debating, and taking action on more than important issue at a time. Can yours?
July 21st, 2006 at 1:04 pmtaking action on more than important issue at a time.
Should read “more than one important issue at a time.”
July 21st, 2006 at 1:06 pmHumanist,
some of the more astute posters here are Americans. Please don’t lump us all together.
Peace and Blessings to you as well.
Comment by Briseadh na Faire
Humanist wants us to get a bunch of guns and rush the white house… So after all the dust clears would we have a stalin running the white house afterwards? A hitler? Evil is often born from chaotic violence… how would you like to have an unaccountable zealot with their finger on USAs nukes? That could happen… hell maybe it already has… but Bush seems to not have been able to pull the dictator bit all the way just yet… lets wait and see if we cant get through this without all out chaos shall we? Will the murder of the Iraqis continue while we “wait”? Yep … but we already know that prejudiced people like those that support Bush are murderers… we will hopefully put them in prison once the white house gets passed on to the next person.
July 21st, 2006 at 1:06 pmMay peace be with you all eternally………..you miserable slimey pieces of excrement
July 21st, 2006 at 1:06 pmIt never ceases to amze me how angry the right-wing is. For all thier chiding about Micheak Moore and Dean, they always seem to have the most shrill, hateful wackso around. And this one’s a U.S. Senator for crying out loud.
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#66-Briseadh,
I understand what you are saying, and I agree with the basic principle. However, it’s a little late to separate out the peas from the carrots when the whole pot of soup has gone bad.
Is it realistic to forgive the atrocities being carried out by the USA because there are a “few” good Americans left? Is that the solace you present to the Iraqi parent as they hold the lifeless body of their child in their arms? Is that reasonable?
Stop the murders and then convince me who the “good” and “bad” Americans are. That is the only humane and sane approach. Wouldn’t you agree?
Peace.
July 21st, 2006 at 1:08 pmI just called the Senator’s office to see if they could point me to a source that proves the IPCC report only included one scientist…they state that he was referring to Michael Mann. I told them that there were literally hundreds of scientists, including skeptics, who all came to the same conclusion and asked once again for his source. She referred me to a website where I could read a transcript from a floor speech by the Senator…the source then is the Senator himself. I balked at using the Senator’s own speech as a source…she transferred me to the press office…left a message…they’ll get back to me. I have to say it felt good to push back. I highly recommend it. Call these offices and push these people on their misinformation campaigns. For all of those who are as frustrated as I am, push back!
July 21st, 2006 at 1:09 pmGlobal warming is extremely important to talk about because it affects the entire planet and all species of life, plant and animal. If we do not start taking action now, whether or not a war is going on, we are merely contributing to future destruction and demise.
to parrotlover: DUHHHHHH.
to whom are you speaking??? everyone knows that. the special-interest bastards will always be there saying otherwise. ignore them. you know they are wrong. i know they are wrong. EVERYONE who isn’t bought off knows they are wrong.
move on!!! every day, often three times a day, this site beats the same dead horse, and the same people come in here and make the same arguments, rantings, statistics, ramblings, and generallly each thread ends the same way!!!
the global warming debate is over. everywhere, that is, but this web-site. meanwhile, substantive issues that are not settled and are truly dynamic, go untouched!
July 21st, 2006 at 1:09 pmThat is the guy in charge of our Environment?????
July 21st, 2006 at 1:12 pmSomeone HELP US!
If Gore if full of crap he must have been in the way of the crap
July 21st, 2006 at 1:14 pmcoming out of Inhofe’s mouth.
Not only is this primate retarded, he depends on the Oil & Gas
industry to keep him in office.
Is he up for re-election, Oklahoman’s?
There’$ the bottom line: as long as his family doesn’t have to spend $2,750/year to deal with it, Inhofe doesn’t care whether global warming is real, nor what or who causes it if it is.
July 21st, 2006 at 1:17 pm#72-Gerald,
I have called for no such violence or foolishness, only a moron would even consider such actions.
And, my friend, you say:
lets wait and see if we cant get through this without all out chaos shall we? Will the murder of the Iraqis continue while we “wait� Yep … but we already know that prejudiced people like those that support Bush are murderers…
I have never seen a more racist and vile comment in my life. You murder and it’s okay because you cannot figure out a way to take your finger off of the trigger? That’s your justification? And, if the lives that were being taken (murdered) during your “wait and see†period that you suggest were AMERICANS, you’d be in a frenzy right now (and don’t even play the soldier card, they are neither innocent or comparable in number). Your racism greatly overshadows your intellect.
Wait and see? Pathetic.
Wake up!
May peace be with us all.
July 21st, 2006 at 1:20 pmHas anyone found out yet if Inhofe has a Gay person in his family? Remember he claimed NO Gays have ever existed in his family and NO divorces either, but he failed to mention pedophilia > lol.
July 21st, 2006 at 1:24 pmGlenn Beck - “you`re either a nut job or you`re just clearly in bed with big oil” — False statement, you can be both a nut job and in bed with big oil at the same time.
Glenn Beck - “and thus you should have no credibility” — True statement
thus, Glenn Beck is not always wrong!
July 21st, 2006 at 1:24 pmSeanS,
Check this about Lindzen.
http://www.realclimate.org/ index.php/ archives/ 2006/ 04/ lindzen-point-by-point/
No you cannot argue with a dishonest asshole like Lindzen. He also believes that tobacco does not cause cancer. Hello?
You don’t argue with someone who still claims the Earth is flat. You dismiss him, ridicule him and send him to hell.
July 21st, 2006 at 1:25 pmEnough is enough. He has been doing this shit for way too long. He has been discredited over and over again. He just can’t shut up because he is too coward to admit that he’s simply a bad, untalented scientist (yes people like that do exist) who has been wrong all along so instead he collects his money from his pals in the fossil fuel industry and continues to spread his lies.
“the global warming debate is over. everywhere, that is, but this web-site”
No. The global warming debate is over. Everywhere, that is, but Red America.
July 21st, 2006 at 1:29 pmDear Senator Horse’s Ass,
Please, oh please, show us what you’re made of. Challenge Al Gore to a debate on it. Rather than just shoot your foaming mouth off on a nice safe talk show hosted by a deranged right-wing blunderbuss, why don’t you go mano-a-mano, brainstem-a-brain, on network TV up against Al? Maybe then we could finally put this thing to rest and the dipshits who still believe people like you could watch your weak-ass arguments, if you can even muster any, get shredded right before their vacuous eyes.
July 21st, 2006 at 1:31 pmThe more these ridiculous people talk, the more awareness they bring to the situation. They aren’t going to make people think there’s nothing going on with their words. They are instead going to make people think that there may just be something to this global warming business, and maybe we all ought to think about it and do something about it. The people in this country aren’t stupid. We all know that this particular administration only crows the loudest against something they are trying to hide. Let’s encourage these ignoramuses to keep on blabbing, because through them and their incessant nay-saying they bring these issues to the forefront.
July 21st, 2006 at 1:35 pm#85
well, screw red america! why bother with proving something to them over and over again and having them say ‘no’.
think progress must not allow the red states to frame the debate, any debate, becuse the red states are evil and are not intellectually honest enough to admit defeat. they need to be defeated only once! you have done that. case closed.
all it takes is a red state monkey to scratch his groin and speak to his special interests against the existence of global warming, and this site will give him attemtion!
July 21st, 2006 at 1:38 pmComment by Humanist — July 21, 2006 @ 1:08 pm
I am beginning to wonder if someone is using your name. Up until now I have agreed with your posts. But this one sound in racism and bigotry. Insert a race or nationality of your choice, for murders are occuring world-wide. You could as easily have said Israelies, or Lebonese, or Iraqis, or Columbians, or blacks, or Mexicans, or Asians etc.c etc., etc.
Why condemn the good with the bad? If a body’s immune system has been overrun by disease, would you condemn and/or kill the patient? Or would you give the patient what she needs to heal? America can use a dose of healing right now.
Think Peace. It can’t hurt, and it just might help.
July 21st, 2006 at 1:40 pmIsn’t this the same guy who claims that nobody in his family has ever fronicated, divorced, been gay, or even sinned? That alone is enough to tell you he is a lying sack of shit or he is crazy as a bat.
July 21st, 2006 at 1:41 pmI’d be interested to see what contributions have been made to his campaign by Exxon, BP, etc.
In the interest of full disclosure of course.
July 21st, 2006 at 1:41 pmAll the recent science fiction proves he’s right. Now can we move on to the important issues, like making sure dinosaur clones don’t run amok? I suggest an autoloading 12-guage, but you have to watch the bushes to your right. Them lizards is sneaky!
July 21st, 2006 at 1:43 pmhttp://yosemite.epa.gov/ oar/ globalwarming.nsf/ content/ index.html
Try going to this site to get your facts straight.
July 21st, 2006 at 1:46 pm#54 My Baby Sucked My Skull Out
I actually saw an Inconvenient Truth and cannot necessarily argue the facts of global warming, but it was a pack of lies. For one thing, Gore claimed brining down “the wall†was a bi-partisan effort. That is an outright LIE. Democrats fought Reagan tooth and nail to keep communism alive. Harkin, Kerry and the rest of the ignorant lot even made up lies about the Contras to keep commies in power.
Why the left is pushing a has-been sore loser like Gore is beyond me. Nonetheless, thanks!
Comment by Suck the Baby’s Skull Out
Really? That’s the way you remember it? Or that’s what some other loon told you happened back then? Just wishing that that had happened doesn’t mean it did. Not even if you wish real hard. And pulling a thought out of your rear end is not the same thing as actual knowledge. In reality, you have no idea what happened in the 80s, or what Kerry or Harkin or anyone else was doing back then. I’d love to educate you about the whole Contras and communism thing, and about Salvadoran death squads, too. But, it’s off-topic and so are you.
When you claim that “An Inconvenient Truth” is a pack of lies, could you cite a source for your opposing view?
July 21st, 2006 at 1:48 pm#89-Briseadh,
I do not understand where you read “racism†into my comment. For the record, I condemn all murder, regardless of what color or gender or religion or group or affiliation or nation that the murderer belongs to. I see no such distinctions or justifications as you imply.
Now, your analogy is an okay one, but you do not seem to realize that it only supports what I say. If you have a diseased organ, the whole body is sick. You do not remove the organ to treat it. Nor is the rest of the body “okay†during the illness. To expand then upon your analogy, if alcohol consumption is causing liver damage, you do not continue to consume alcohol based on the logic that the rest of your organs are okay with it. Not if you expect to live, by the way.
Please stop the murder and the slow suicide, that you so aptly identified, that you are committing! It has to end now, cannot you see that?
May peace be with us all.
July 21st, 2006 at 1:50 pmIs it realistic to forgive the atrocities being carried out by the USA because there are a “few†good Americans left?
Humanist
Well well Humanist. You’ve just said that “Americans” have commited atrocities. Has Hezbollah commited atrocities? Your such a hypocrite.
July 21st, 2006 at 1:50 pmGo see a new report on the catastrophe that is global warming on SSA Blog
http://www.sunstateactivist.or/ssablog.php
It’s a new report linking devastating wildfires with climate change and warmer temps. That bastard Inhofe should know; he’s from Oklahoma, whre the temps are 100+ right now. Is that representing your constituents well Jim? Ignoring their impending economic collapse?
http://www.sunstateactivist.org/ssablog.php
July 21st, 2006 at 1:52 pm#88, james risser - If we just say “gosh we’re right, they’re wrong, so let’s just shut up,” we’ll end up with somebody like george w bush again in 2008. If they push, we HAVE to push back. We have to! No matter how obvious it is. If we let them, they’d find a reason to start arguing about the earth being flat and that it’s an “unsettled issue.” Passively letting them rant and then not responding has been one of the Democrats’ problems these past years. We cannot let them get away with spreading lies as truth and then saying nothing to retaliate. These people are appearing on major news shows, papers, magazines, etc. These people either are or appear to be in an office of authority and speak as if everything they say is 100% true. The “truth” they offer is also saying that “everything is okay” and that we do not need to make any sacrifices. Guess what? People like being comforted. As much as I would love to just ignore them and not spend my time and energy arguing and discussing all of this here and everywhere else I do, I cannot stop. If we stop, they will not. Guess what will happen then?
And who the hell says Iraq is less of a “settled” issue than global warming? Pulling out of Iraq and providing more humanitarian aid has been “settled” for me as much as global warming or any other “liberal” topic in the USA.
I also firmly believe global warming is more important. Given the word, we could be out of Iraq by the end of the year. Combatting global warming is going to be an ongoing problem for centuries. Human population is still exploding and we’re using more energy than ever. There is no end in site. Kyoto and other calls for limits are merely reducing levels somewhat, not bring the climate back to equilibrium. This is a HUGE topic with tons of “unsettled” variables.
Now I don’t mean to trivialize the tragedy that is Iraq, but I’m getting tired of these pseudo-liberals that seem to come off as thinking they are “better” than the rest of us because they’ve basically given up on fighting the right-wing wackos and their wackiness.
We can’t give up on ANY front.
July 21st, 2006 at 1:56 pmIt’s SUMMER TIME guys. Yes, its July. Its hot and humid and, well, its SUMMER TIME. I wonder why we haven’t had as many hurricanes this year?
July 21st, 2006 at 1:56 pm#96-JIM,
I condemn all murder, regardless of what color or gender or religion or group or affiliation or nation that the murderer belongs to.
You seem to complain that I am focusing on just Americans. Well, dolt, there are two reasons for such that should be very obvious to anyone with a modicum of intelligence:
1. I am currently speaking to AMERICANS
2. Americans are currently the most prolific murderers on the world stage.
I hope that clarifies things for you.
Peace.
July 21st, 2006 at 1:56 pmhezbollah is not comparable with the united states. it is composed of several hundreds, perhaps thousands of disenchanted, oppressed people. the united states is responsible for the conditions that foment hezbollah’s oppression.
these two or three armed israeli soldiers were probably on the border of lebanon and israel when they were ‘captured’… israel has for years gone in and out of southern lebanon on ‘patrols’.
for israel to commit war crimes, with the approval of the us government–to kill thousands of lebanese civilians, is not comparable at all to anything hezbollah is capable of doing to the precious israelis…
July 21st, 2006 at 1:58 pm#95, Humanist - I’m not exactly sure what you want the average person to do? Physically fly over to Iraq and force the US military to stand down? Why don’t YOU go do that? Meanwhile, back in reality, I’ll be fighting tooth and nail for a change in USA leadership, while donating my time and money to charities, which will actually work to benefit all of the causes I believe in.
July 21st, 2006 at 2:01 pm#87 Gay Bear
They aren’t going to make people think there’s nothing going on with their words. They are instead going to make people think that there may just be something to this global warming business, and maybe we all ought to think about it and do something about it.
True. In fact, I think when someone like Inhofe gets wacky like this, it’s a cry for help: “Help! These treehuggers are going to ruin the good thing I’ve got going with the energy companies! I was counting on a big fact lobbying contract when I leave the Senate!”
Look at who his top contributors were in the last election cycle:
1 Koch Industries $22,750
2 National Rural Electric Cooperative Assn $19,044
3 Cummins Inc $16,000
4 Murray Energy Corp $15,200
5 Associated Builders & Contractors $15,000
6 OGE Energy $14,500
Biggest PAC contributors:
Energy/Nat Resource $63,000:
Oil & Gas $17,000
Misc Energy $2,000
Electric Utilities $41,000
Environmental Svcs/Equipment $1,000
Waste Management $2,000
(Courtesy of opensecrets.org)
July 21st, 2006 at 2:02 pmI see what your saying james risser, your making a POINT. Humanist on the other hand, claims to be so even handed about affairs on the “third planet from the sun”. Yet, he refuses to say if Hezbollah has EVER murdered someone. EVER. He can’t bring himself to say it.
Peace be unto all of those who drink goat milk, or, however you guys say it….
July 21st, 2006 at 2:02 pmPassively letting them rant and then not responding has been one of the Democrats’ problems these past years. We cannot let them get away with spreading lies as truth and then saying nothing to retaliate. These people are appearing on major news shows, papers, magazines, etc. These people either are or appear to be in an office of authority and speak as if everything they say is 100% true.
i say screw them. your reply to their extremist propoganda legitimizes it beyond what it is worth. you are arguing with three year old children that keep your attention with ‘no, it isn’t’ ‘yes, it is’ ‘no, it isn’t’ ‘YES IT IS’ sort of debate.
the democrats continue to lose because they have no spine.
you misinterpet what i mean by ’settled’. the global warming debate is settled in that you have made a sufficiently strong argument that only a damn fool would deny. the fact that damn fools do deny it, does not mean by repeating it, you will finally convince them. the other ‘less settled’ topics i am referring to are the dynamic issues that change hour by hour.
to, as you suggest, push back on these special interest supported red state scratching monkeys is not worth your time. all you do is win today’s tic-tac-toe match with a retarded monkey…. what sort of victory is that????
July 21st, 2006 at 2:07 pm#102-Parrot,
You need to stop the murder, it cannot be any more plain and simple than that. Do you really believe that “donating to charity” absolves you of your sin of complacency regarding the murders that are occurring in your name, by your army, funded by your tax dollars? Are you really that obtuse?
If you need suggestions, here’s some: Get off of your obese backside and DO SOMETHING rather than wait and see what happens. Stop purchasing anything but life’s essentials. Protest every day. Post the pictures of the dead Iraqi children on your house for all of your neighbors to see. Need I go on?
May peace be with us all.
July 21st, 2006 at 2:07 pmWe are Human Waves crashing against our planet. Its time to vote fools and puppets like James Inhofe out of office as the lairs they are. Its plain and simple: vote them out of office.
If you dont like who is running against them, then just write in Jon Steward for the position. In time it will make a difference!
Peace
July 21st, 2006 at 2:16 pmCasey Kochmer
A Personal Tao
#105, james risser - I used to believe the same thing. NOT responding, in my opinion, legitimizes them when they appear on CNN, MSNBC, ABC, NBC, CBS, Fox News, and so on… That means they are spouting off nonsense and nobody would be contradicting them.
However, point taken, james risser. We just disagree on how to deal with these, how you so aptly put it, 3 year old children. I respect your opinion, but disagree.
July 21st, 2006 at 2:17 pmIf my state ever elected an idiot like that, I think I would go around and beat everyone over the head.
http://www.americansdebate.com
July 21st, 2006 at 2:17 pm#102-Parrot,
I apologize for making the comment about “your obese backside”. That was uncalled for and disrespectful. I sincerely apologize for that indiscretion.
Peace.
July 21st, 2006 at 2:22 pmI know how to stop murderers. KILL THEM. Right Humanist? What a total loser. Your a joke. You can’t even answer a simple question. Here maybe this is more simple for your little brain…
HAS ANY MEMBER OF ANY ISLAMIC TERRORIST GROUP EVER MURDERED ANYONE?????
July 21st, 2006 at 2:23 pmCan you guys ever open your eyes and ears and hear a different point of view?… You are all so convinced, that any differing facts must be lies from the lying liars… The only evidence I ever see is selectively peer reviewed, outdated, misrepresented proven incorrect or just does not pass the smell test… And that goes for both sides of the isle… I have seen the slant, spin and bias from both sides but try and be a little more open minded…
This is NASA’s latest report…
http://www.sciencedaily.com/ releases/ 2003/ 03/ 030321075236.htm
July 21st, 2006 at 2:23 pm#106, Humanist - Now I know you are insane. As a pacifist and vegetarian, I don’t even kill nor condone killing of animals, let alone people. And I am certainly not complacent with the issues facing the United States’ corruption and illegal wars. Grouping all Americans together due to the opinions of about a third of the nation is just as bad as when the religious fundamentalists group together all Muslims as “evil.”
And while we’re on the subject. What the heck have YOU done to end the war in Iraq? …Other than sit on YOUR obese backside and complain about Americans on this website? And do you live only on bare minimum essentials? I’d say not since you have internet access.
Please rejoin reality.
July 21st, 2006 at 2:24 pm#112 - I dont remember anybody here saying that study is not true. Can’t climate change be due to more than one reason? The importance is how much is due to human activity. Recent studies say that humans contribute significantly to climate change. To say what humans do is NOT contributing is just silly this day and age. We cannot stop the sun, but we certainly can stop what WE are doing to contribute. And that becomes MORE relevant, not less, with more than one factor causing positive temperature increases. That article, to me, suggests that human carbon reductions need to be pursued MORE agressively, not less.
July 21st, 2006 at 2:29 pmI wonder how the Ice Age ended? The Earth (AKA third planet from the sun, right Humanist?) had to heat up somehow. The Earth’s temperatures have always been in flux. Maybe we are starting a new warm cycle, and maybe mankind has sped it up. But no one is 1000% certain.
July 21st, 2006 at 2:32 pm#113-Parrot,
I’m a vegetarian (technically a vegan) as well. I hope that you are experiencing the health benefits that I have witnessed.
Now, I understand what you are saying about the divisions of your country and I also understand your frustration with such. However, it is the United States of America which is performing the atrocities. Not the “republican” or “democrat” USA, but the whole country. It is your solemn duty to stop the murders occurring in your name, by your country. Do you not see it that way? Please explain to me how you would, with a straight face, explain your position to an Iraqi parent as they hold the lifeless and brutally murdered body of their child in their arms.
May peace be with us all.
July 21st, 2006 at 2:32 pm#116 - how could I as one person be expected to stop the rest of my country from participating in a war I don’t agree with? I’ve done what I can - protest, campaign, donate money, post blogs, talk about the issues with people, etc.
So far it hasn’t done much to stop any of it. I can’t personally be held responsible, that is BS I have been against the war from the start.
July 21st, 2006 at 2:38 pmMaybe we are starting a new warm cycle, and maybe mankind has sped it up. But no one is 1000% certain.
Comment by COMMENT BY JIM — July 21, 2006 @ 2:32 pm
And what is the absolute worst thing about assuming that human beings are behind all of this?
July 21st, 2006 at 2:38 pmExplain it to the mothers and fathers who have lost sons and daughters to the hands of Islamic terrorists Humanist. You love lumping all Americans together, so how bout we lumb you together with some, oh, well, maybe some, GOAT SHIT……
Peace be with all people who own pure breed Arabian sheep, or however you say it….
July 21st, 2006 at 2:38 pmWe CAN be 1000% certain that CO2 is a greenhouse gas - that it traps heat in the Earth’s atmosphere. We CAN also be certain that human activities have increased the CO2 content of the atmosphere by 30% so far and it gets worse every year. So, we CAN be certain that humans are warming the planet and it will only continue to accelerate at this rate.
Speculation in one area of science does not prevent another area from having certainty.
On a side note, one theory I heard which makes a lot of sense was that the last ice age was ended due to a buildup of CO2 from volcanoes. Because there were fewer plants around at that time to remove CO2 from the atmosphere it was allowed to increase in concentration until it reached a tipping point and the climate warmed back up.
July 21st, 2006 at 2:41 pmBob’s Your Uncle
If we start going by what people assume to be this, then that, then another thing, when does that little “assuming thing” stop. We should all want to know truths, not theories.
July 21st, 2006 at 2:42 pmWe also can’t be 1000% certain that God exists.
July 21st, 2006 at 2:43 pm#116, Humanist - Yes I have enjoyed health benefits in addition to it actually “opening” a wide variety of foods to me — which is the opposite I thought would happen since technically I’m “restricting” certain food intake.
As for the war, the fact is, I would no more easily be able to explain to that grieving Iraqi mother the actions of American soldiers than she would be able to explain why Iraqi “insurgent” groups have murdered thousands of American soldiers to their grieving mothers.
Prejudice and stereotypes are dangerous. I am a pacifist (which is fairly rare even among liberal types) and, therefore, cannot and will not use violence to end violence. I disagree with the invasion of Iraq as much as I disagree with any war.
#117, readyforchange, explained my position best.
July 21st, 2006 at 2:45 pmreadyforchange
Could the destruction of the rain forests contribute? Could the sun have something to say about it. CO2 is increasing. At a record rate. But tell me this, are you for Kyoto? If you are, how is it that China is given a pass. China doesn’t have to comply. But everyone has to trash the U.S., which puts out less polution than the E.U.
July 21st, 2006 at 2:46 pm#117-ready,
I understand your frustration, and I applaud the fact that you are doing something. However, do not confuse “effort†with “resultsâ€.
So many have asked “what more can we do?†and I’ve offered suggestions every time such as:
- Stop purchasing non-essential items
- Organize a general strike
- Stop paying your taxes
- Protest every day
- Place photos of dead Iraqi children all over your house
These are but a few non-violent suggestions and there are many other non-violent options as well. Each demands sacrifice, and it seems to be the sacrifice part that tips the scale. That is disturbing considering the ramifications of your inaction.
Peace.
July 21st, 2006 at 2:46 pm#121, bob - You have been sucked into the misinformation about the definition of a theory.
Citation: http://wordnet.princeton.edu/perl/webwn?s=theory
You are confusing “theory” and “hypothesis.”
July 21st, 2006 at 2:48 pmAnd Judd misleads yet again.
Even with the “array of evidence”, the Mann study has only been given a “plausible” rating. Dishonest hacks like Judd will continue to lie about this though. If the science isn’t strong enough on its own, juice it up, ey Judd? That’s the AGW debate in a nutshell.
July 21st, 2006 at 2:49 pm#124, JIM - I am not comfortable with China getting a pass anymore than the USA. Why do right wingers always do that? “But China is doin’ it!” Would you jump off a bridge if… you know the rest.
July 21st, 2006 at 2:49 pmIs there any way this guy can be thrown in jail? Public indecency maybe?
July 21st, 2006 at 2:50 pm#126–That was Comment By Jim’s post, not mine.
July 21st, 2006 at 2:50 pm#125, Humanist - First, many are doing as you suggested. What else is there short of “fighting violence with violence” which is not an option for me.
Second… “Stop purchasing non-essential items” - How does that help Iraqis? I will stop purchasing (and have stopped purchasing) anything from companies whose actions contradict my own beliefs. I’ve done this many times. It’s called boycotting. Does it work? Who knows. But how does my living on bread and water help Iraq?
Third… “Place photos of dead Iraqi children all over your house.” This just pisses off the pro-war people and makes them more pro-war. Weird, but true. Also it increases the chance of your house being vandalized. Again, this does not help Iraq. Conversation and dialog are much more effective than pictures of dead children in your yard.
Fourth… “Stop paying your taxes.” Okay. Then I get thrown in jail and can no longer perform the other actions you outlined. Again, how does this help Iraqis? Also, less taxes will, in the end, mean less revenue for solidiers AND humanitarian aid.
Fifth… “Protest every day.” If by protest you mean vocally disagreeing with the establishment and trying to educate new people on the subject to change the attitude of the public, then yea I do that about every day. If you mean stand outside and protest in the “public assembly” sense, some of us have to work. If we don’t, well that’s just back to the point where I’d have no resources to do any of the other things you mentioned.
Sixth… “Organize a General Strike.” This is confusing, but it might just be a strange use of words. I would strike if I belonged to a union and thought it was the best way to achieve change for my fellow union members. Striking for the war doesn’t make sense to me. If you mean organize a public protest on the streets with signs and all that, well then, yea that’s a good idea and it should be done more often.
July 21st, 2006 at 2:56 pm#123-Parrot,
I found the same thing regarding discovering the wondrous variety of foods once my eyes were opened to it. I am happy to hear that it is going well for you also.
I know that my question/scenario is a difficult one. Yet in attempting to answer it one cannot help but to see the key to this whole situation, and that is that it is beyond reason or explanation. Do not you see the trap that you all have fallen into? A more wise fellow than me summed it up perfectly and I will attempt to relay the message and apologize in advance for a probable lack in perfection regarding the actual words:
“Evil prospers only in an absence of actions by good men.â€
In other words, the current situation, which I certain most all would agree to be “evil†in nature, continues or “prospers†only because good people are not acting. You say actions are occurring. I’m saying “greatâ€, but obviously they are not the right actions or the volume is too little.
Peace.
July 21st, 2006 at 2:57 pmParrotlover77
Okay, thanks for clearing up theory with hypothesis. I’ll stay with facts. And the science on global warming is still being debated. I haven’t seen Gore’s movie yet, I’m waiting until it comes out for rental, but Al Gore is not a scientist. And I’ve read different views from scientists from all over the world on just how factual Gore’s movie is…. But I’ll decide myself when I see it.
China is not doing Kyoto. China is a mess. Their desert is growing at a massive rate. They are having multiple massive dust storms. And their rivers, man alive I’m not even going to start on that.
Oh, and Humanist, why don’t you stop terrorism while we stop the Iraq war. Total idiot.
July 21st, 2006 at 2:59 pm#132, Humanist - You and I have found common ground, which I didn’t think was possible. However, in my opinion, the goal is getting MORE PEOPLE on my side and actually VOTING, rather than just dedicating my life 100% to the goal of being a vocal figure on the forefront for ending the war.
Some people have it in them and have the ability to get people on our side by being a public figure that DOES do that, like Cindy Sheehan, for instance. However, a public dynamic speaker, I am not. I will support the Sheeans of the world with money and time, but my goal is to remove the regime that caused this war (and all the other things I disagree with) in the first place. I cannot take direct action, as in standing in front of a tank type of action. But I can sway the hearts and minds of people I come into contact with, and that’s what I do. If that isn’t enough for you, then I don’t know what would be.
But I agree, more people need to “do good.” I’d be happy if more people just voted. I think the USA is more “liberal” than just the subset that votes. The problem is, I think they feel disenfranchized or “it won’t make a difference” and therefore don’t vote. That is one of many problems that needs to be addressed.
July 21st, 2006 at 3:04 pm#133, Jim - You started out disagreeing with me, then you went on into China and proved why the USA SHOULD support Kyoto.
I’m wondering where the heck you get your “facts” from, btw. It seems all righties have this magical source of contracting evidence for global warming that the rest of the world does not have access to. I’d love to read it. And it’s a blog or somebody funded by the oil industry, spare me.
July 21st, 2006 at 3:06 pmAnd Jim, for the love of god, do not reference Michael Chrichton.
July 21st, 2006 at 3:06 pmCan’t remember the source, but heard this on the radio about six or seven months before the last election…….
AMERICAN POPULATION WHO CONSIDER THEMSELVES ……..
CONSERVATIVE 40%
MODERATE 40%
LIBERAL 20%
I can’t remember the source the radio station was using, it was a poll conducted by some university somewhere……..
July 21st, 2006 at 3:08 pmWhat facts are you questioning me on Parrotlover77? By the way, my wife and I are watching my wife’s aunt’s parakeet (I don’t know how to spell it) this weekend. She dropped it off last night. It took about ten minutes for my cat do jump on the cage. Don’t worry, little bird is fine and were keeping the cat at a distance…… I’ve never took care of a bird before….
July 21st, 2006 at 3:12 pmIt’s time for Democrats, in DC, to either call the GOP members dirty fascists to their faces, or resign for being spineless jellyfishes?! I would call Inhofe an inbred redneck creepo to his face, if I was a Dem. Senator or Representative!
July 21st, 2006 at 3:13 pm#131-Parrot,
First off, I am in complete agreement with you regarding “violenceâ€, it is never the answer.
Now, on to your questions/comments:
1. Stop purchasing non-essential items. Yours is a consumerism based economy. If you want to get the attention that you need, speak with your money. I can guarantee, without reservation, that a such a message will be heard and felt.
2. Photos. I disagree. Your media and coverage of the abomination that you call the Iraq War is so sanitized and sterile that a majority of your citizens have no idea what it actually looks like. Expose the truth, it cannot fail. For those that you claim it would incite, I believe that you vastly overestimate their number. And for you to be afraid of them is only serving to surrender your humanity. You seem a much better person than that.
3. Stop paying taxes. No, you won’t get thrown in jail, it does not work that way. But, what if you did? What if 50,000,000 Americans were arrested and thrown in jail. Do you not believe that would have an impact? Do you not see the power of that statement? Would your neighbors just allow it to happen? Think about it.
4. Protest every day. Great, keep it up.
5. General strike. Imagine for one minute what the impact would be if every American who opposes your murderous war called in “sick†for a day. Can you honestly say that you do not have power? What do you think would happen?
May peace be with us all.
July 21st, 2006 at 3:14 pmJim - “cant remember the source the radio station was using”
These are the kinds of facts I’m questioning you on.
Budgies (common parakeets) are very sweet and intelligent birds, but yes, cats are obviously natural predators, so you need to keep them very far away.
July 21st, 2006 at 3:14 pmThe earth keeps get flatter all the time. I guess time must be going backwards now.
July 21st, 2006 at 3:16 pmNo, Gore just is’nt swimming in money because of fossil fuels, Inhofe.
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July 21st, 2006 at 3:22 pmI guess all of you guys are more progressive than I am…I think global warming is a crock.
July 21st, 2006 at 3:23 pm