Sen. Inhofe: ‘Gore Is Full of Crap,’ ‘All Recent Science…Confirms This Thing Is A Hoax’
Sen. Inhofe: ‘Gore Is Full of Crap,’ ‘All Recent Science…Confirms This Thing Is A Hoax’
Yesterday, Sen. James Inhofe (R-OK) attacked Al Gore and global warming science, claiming that Gore was “full of crap” on global warming.
Appearing on Glenn Beck’s radio show and CNN television program, Inhofe said that the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC), which concluded that global warming was real and caused by humans, used “one scientist.” Inhofe added: “[A]ll of the recent science…it confirms that I was right on this thing. This thing is a hoax.” Watch it:
Actually, “all of the recent science” — without exception — accepts that global warming is real and caused by humans. The IPCC didn’t involve “one scientist.” It involved thousands of scientists from over 120 countries, including so-called “climate skeptics” and industry representatives. The National Academy of Sciences recently concluded that the one study singled out by Inhofe for criticism, which was authored by Michael Mann, “has subsequently been supported by an array of evidence.â€
Full transcript:
Senator James Inhofe has been very vocal in saying that a lot of the statistics used by proponents of the man-made global warming theory are either misleading or just plain wrong. In fact, I think he said on my radio show earlier today that Al Gore was full of crap.
Now, from Washington, D.C., Senator James Inhofe.
As I pointed out to the radio listeners, you`re a pretty brave guy, because, you know, if you come out against global warming you`re either a nut job or you`re just clearly in bed with big oil, and thus you should have no credibility.
SEN. JAMES INHOFE (R), OKLAHOMA: Yes, well, you know, I have to say this, and I`d say that probably 75 percent of the viewers that are watching this right now have bought into this thing, this global warming thing, in saying that it was manmade gases. And I was the same way 3 1/2 years ago when I became of the Senate Committee on Environment and Public Works. And so I thought — right then, you might remember the Horton econometrics survey…
BECK: Oh, who doesn`t?
INHOFE: … that came out. And they said how much it would cost America if we signed onto the Kyoto treaty, about $2,750 per family per year in the price of energy and all that.
Anyway, I saw that, and I thought, “Well, it`s my responsibility as a chairman to make sure that the science justifies this kind of loss.” And the more I checked into it, the things started with the United Nations, the International Panel on Climate Control, and they used one scientist. And his name was Michael Mann, the famous hockey stick — remember that — where he plotted the temperatures that went all the way across on a horizontal line, then you got to the 20th century and it started going up.
Well, one thing they forgot to do is put in the medieval warming period, which was from about 900 to 1400 A.D., when it was warmer then than it is now.BECK: Well, and here`s the thing. When you see…
INHOFE: So in all of the recent science, as I`ve mentioned on your radio show, it confirms that I was right on this thing. This thing is a hoax.
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man, you guys just won’t let this global warming thing go. Whats wrong with warmer days? It leads to scantily clad woman.(remeber it’s a privilage not a right, just like spandex)
July 21st, 2006 at 11:33 amI am so grateful to Think Progress for providing transcripts whenever possible so I don’t have to actually listen to these escapees from padded cell institutions.
July 21st, 2006 at 11:35 amLet’s see, full of crap doesn’t Inhofe have brown eyes? Wonder just who is full of crap.
July 21st, 2006 at 11:36 amSenator Inhofe must have read Michael Crichton’s State of Fear.
(Wow…I almost managed to say that with a straight face…)
July 21st, 2006 at 11:37 amGee, I wonder who his campaign contributors are.
July 21st, 2006 at 11:37 am“…..about $2,750 per family per year in the price of energy and all that.
Anyway, I saw that, and I thought, “Well, it`s my responsibility as a chairman to make sure that the science justifies this kind of loss.â€
Rising gas prices already cost my family $2750 per year more since GW took office. I’d like to know how Mr. Inhofe justfies that cost. Truth is, that it would cost the American consumer for corporations to become more ecologically responsible, but since the initial costs would be borne by big business, in particular those that enjoy Mr. Inhofe’s legislative affections, he is suddenly concerned over ‘our’ extra expenditures.
Another Republican Jackass.
July 21st, 2006 at 11:39 amTrying to find nobility in either the Senate or House is a bit like feeling around for a quarter on the floor of a dark movie theater. The reward is not worth the search. And Inhofe makes Paris Hilton look intellectual.
July 21st, 2006 at 11:40 amLying asshole. He gets paid while we cook ourselves in our own atmosphere.
July 21st, 2006 at 11:41 amI’d like to ask Mr. Inhofe what it feels like to go through life using only the dumbass lobe of one’s brain.
July 21st, 2006 at 11:41 amAnd will someone please ask Senator Inhofe what the per family cost is of the Iraq war?
July 21st, 2006 at 11:42 amThe real villians are the folks at CNN, who gave this bullshit artist air time and collaborated in the dissemination of his lies.
They must be taking a page from the ‘Fair & Balanced’ Faux News.
July 21st, 2006 at 11:43 amOKC is gonna hit 110 today, I’m not saying it’s global warming, I’m just saying 110 degrees and one of my representatives lying his ass off on national TV is just a crappy day to start the weekend.
So, 110 degrees, Inhofe lying about global warming, Coburn distorting the stem cells issue and Istook running for Governor amid his campaign audit.
Let’s keep electing those conservatives Oklahoma.
July 21st, 2006 at 11:44 amHere’s the answer to my own question in post #5. What a shock.
http://www.opensecrets.org/politicians/indus.asp?CID=N00005582&cycle=2006
July 21st, 2006 at 11:44 ameven if these people are dead wrong they will fight and claim they are right. the instinct of self-preservation has reached new heights with them.
July 21st, 2006 at 11:47 amHey Inhofe, Say that Hoax bit while standing under the head of any glacier
July 21st, 2006 at 11:48 amAccording to the information compiled by the Center for Responsive Politics, the oil and gas industry has consistently been the major contributor to Inhofe’s campaign ever since he became a Senator in 1996.
July 21st, 2006 at 11:48 amAnd the more I checked into it, the things started with the United Nations, the International Panel on Climate Control, and they used one scientist. And his name was Michael Mann
Wow, you would think that a Chairman on the Committee of Environment and Public Works wouldn’t go on TV and say something that incorrect. How classy is it to go on National television and say “Full of Crap”?
July 21st, 2006 at 11:50 amWho the hell is Glenn Beck? It seems like every time I pass by CNN, his show is on.
July 21st, 2006 at 11:50 amWell…
The fact that he refers to it as this “global warming thing” shows what an ignorant *** he is.
July 21st, 2006 at 11:51 amThere’s one thing that these right wing nut jobs never answer.
What is Gore’s motivation to lie? What are the motivations to lie for the 1000s of climatologists that agree global warming is happening?
The motive for the oil companies to download global warming is obvious: they don’t want their line of business regulated and revenues decreased.
July 21st, 2006 at 11:51 amMikey: Here’s the answer to my own question in post #5. What a shock. – - It’s no shock, although disappointing, that the Oil & Gas industry’s top 20 recipients of contributions are all Republican. Gosh, I wonder why we don’t have energy policy reform in this country.
July 21st, 2006 at 11:51 amAccording to the information compiled by the Center for Responsive Politics, the oil and gas industry has consistently been the major contributor to Inhofe’s campaign ever since he became a Senator in 1996.
They are certainly getting value for money. Does this guy do anything else?
All this obsessing over a study made almost a decade ago, at this stage it’s almost who cares? As TP point out the vast bulk of the data point in the direction of Global Warming occurring. What “science” is this numbskull referring to?
This is the first I’ve heard that “all the recent science … etc.”, and I follow this thing quite closely. Is he just lying?
July 21st, 2006 at 11:52 amParrot: “What is Gore’s motivation to lie? What are the motivations to lie for the 1000s of climatologists that agree global warming is happening?” – - To the first question, the Right will say he’s just staying in the public eye because he has a huge ego and/or he’s going to run again.
July 21st, 2006 at 11:55 amTo your second question, I personally know people who claim that it’s just a bunch of scientists, politicians and media people who want to draw attention to themselves so they feel important.
We live among these people.
#21, you’re right – it’s no shock, I was being sarcastic, and pissed off. These irresponsible politicians go on TV and poison the minds of millions of Americans and I’m tired of it. Here’s an idea, how about “The Truth Channel”?
July 21st, 2006 at 11:56 amYIKES!!!!
July 21st, 2006 at 11:57 am#23 Badmoodman – Sadly, I figured that was the case… Maybe I was hoping a sensible answer might surface from the wingnuts…
July 21st, 2006 at 11:57 amLets send Mr. Inhofe back to Oklahoma to live in a tent for the rest of the summer so he can contemplate the dangers which will be caused by global warming. If global warming persists this will not be a record heat wave but the normal summer temperatures.
July 21st, 2006 at 11:58 amIf Inhofe is funded by oil & gas industry what industry would fund Gore’s global warming message, seeing as how Inhofe believes that Gore is “full of crap”?
Gore must be propagandizing for the truth industry.
July 21st, 2006 at 11:58 amAnother whacko from the reichwingnuts in the deliverance wing of the fascist GOP. They will say anything to defend the profiteering of the military industrial complex and oil companies. What a worthless tool this guy is. It is hard to learn anything when you have your mind made up to not learn
“Willingness, honesty and open mindedness are the essentials of recovery. But these are indispensable.
There is a principle which is a bar against all information, which is proof against all arguments and which cannot fail to keep a man in everlasting ignorance that principle is contempt prior to investigation… ”
—Herbert Spencer
July 21st, 2006 at 11:59 amQuick…someone call Inhofe’s office and ask what his source is that claims the IPCC used only one scientist.
I would, but the wife has my cell phone today (her’s is on the blink).
July 21st, 2006 at 11:59 amUmmm… Define Warmer…
Here it’s going to be over 100F for three straight days this weekend.
Personally (being a pesky northerner) I like mid-50s F. Anything over 70F I find uncomfortably hot. Now that is fine, perhaps I’m just in the wrong climate… But when the whole planet ends up in the wrong climate there is nowhere for me to go.
Anchorage, AK is predicted to be 63 this weekend… Should I have to move to Alaska so that I can be comfortable? How much room is there in Alaska for everyone who would have to move there (including plants and animals?)
Z.
July 21st, 2006 at 11:59 amAnd Americans voted for him to be one of their senator.
July 21st, 2006 at 12:00 pmSimply amazing!
We don’t have sufficient collective intelligence to survive.
If we continue this way, rest of the world will realize that their differences are insignificant compared to immediate threat posed by us Americans.
Squegeboo;
July 21st, 2006 at 12:00 pmBut you might go around clad in nothing but a swimsuit and a towel which might distress the neighborhood.
I think there’s another, more subtle reason for Republicans discrediting global warming–they want to control what people are afraid of. As long as they can play the terrorism card, they’re able to dictate what Americans fear and when they fear it. Global warming threatens to take that monopoly away from them, and give Americans something else to be worried about.
July 21st, 2006 at 12:01 pmThe ’science’ of political contributions is a road paved to HELL for these lying, corrupt schmucks.
July 21st, 2006 at 12:02 pmIgnorance is strength is the Republican motto for their collective group of dumb asses
July 21st, 2006 at 12:02 pmIPCC used one scientist? All recent science say that man-made global warming is a hoax? Tupac is alive? Saddam had nukes? Clinton killed Vince Foster?
Wow, I didn’t know these things. Thank you Senator Inhofe for informing me.
July 21st, 2006 at 12:06 pmFlag burning and global warming linked. (And Inhofe is the missing link.)
July 21st, 2006 at 12:07 pm……say there Squijjy Bo-Bob, yer head honcho Republican don’ even need no scanteeely clad wimmen to git all hetted up and grabby-ass…..
July 21st, 2006 at 12:08 pm……say there lil’ Georgy, how about demonstrating some respect for the lives of living people instead of sqauwking so much about respect for the lifeforce within a few score cells…….
Moderated by Admin.
July 21st, 2006 at 12:09 pmI think there’s another, more subtle reason for Republicans discrediting global warming–they want to control what people are afraid of. As long as they can play the terrorism card, they’re able to dictate what Americans fear and when they fear it. Global warming threatens to take that monopoly away from them, and give Americans something else to be worried about.
Comment by Bob’s Your Uncle — July 21, 2006 @ 12:01 pm
I agree. Plus, I think Bush is downplaying it because he and/or the Republicans didn’t think of it first. A Democrat is leading the charge…oh the horror of it all!
July 21st, 2006 at 12:12 pmThanks TP for keeping Global Warming on the radar. Its easy to get sidetracked with all the other immediate crisis going on, this needs to stay in everyone’s mind until major changes take place.
July 21st, 2006 at 12:13 pm23 Badmoodman
July 21st, 2006 at 12:15 pmI think you are correct. My response would be that I much prefer Al Gore’s well deserved ego over Bush and Company’s id.
The Republicans are completely out of step with the vast majority of the American public on this. It’s a losing issue for them, they know it, and the only way they can address it is by dismissing it as a fraud.
July 21st, 2006 at 12:17 pmOil & Gas $311,208
What a coincidence
July 21st, 2006 at 12:20 pmIf I were from Oklahoma, I would be truly embarrassed. What am I Saying? Our state has Bunning and McConnell. This guy is a genius compared to Bunning.
July 21st, 2006 at 12:25 pmah, i love the smell of a good global warming piece on think progress in the morning!!!
it is before noon, and we have two of them already… looks to possibly be a record day of think progress following the ’shiney object’ of a debate that is settled and whose sole purpose is to distract the people away from the issues less settled. the issues that are not worn and tattered. those who, such as this moron from the senate, say such things is a non-factor. just a ragged old tattered dog barking in the neighbors yard. ignore it!!!
think progress and the progressives ought to be better than that. to fight the same fight over and over again is POINTLESS. YOU WON!!!!
how is barack’s drive going??? i am on the edge of my seat…please tell.
July 21st, 2006 at 12:27 pmCongress is an embarressment. IF any engineer or scientist or computer programmer acted like these fools in the type of work I do they would be fired promptly… and I am not one for firing people… in fact I always want to give people 2nd or 3rd chances… but out right lies about things that are empirical is shameful and unprofessional.
July 21st, 2006 at 12:28 pmBrokaw even did a special on this for Discovery. Believe me, it is real. And, Inhofe shows himself to be a full-fledged member of the Conservatives without Conscience crowd.
July 21st, 2006 at 12:28 pmInhofe is completely full of steaming crap, so he can shut up his damn lying trench mouth!
July 21st, 2006 at 12:29 pm“You cannot convince a person to believe something if his income depends on not believing it.” Quote by a famous person, whom I can’t remember now.
How much of Inhofe’s donations come from the energy industry? They definitely do not want any diminution in the use of fossil fuels, and their man Inhofe won’t let them down.
July 21st, 2006 at 12:33 pmI actually saw an Inconvenient Truth and cannot necessarily argue the facts of global warming, but it was a pack of lies. For one thing, Gore claimed brining down “the wall” was a bi-partisan effort. That is an outright LIE. Democrats fought Reagan tooth and nail to keep communism alive. Harkin, Kerry and the rest of the ignorant lot even made up lies about the Contras to keep commies in power.
Why the left is pushing a has-been sore loser like Gore is beyond me. Nonetheless, thanks!
July 21st, 2006 at 12:33 pmReply to Suck the Baby’s Skull Out:
I actually saw an Inconvenient Truth and cannot necessarily argue the facts of global warming, but it was a pack of lies.
That single sentence sums you up admirably, Suck.
July 21st, 2006 at 12:37 pm#54….I actually saw an Inconvenient Truth and cannot necessarily argue the facts of global warming, but it was a pack of lies.
At least you declared that you don’t know what you’re talking about.
July 21st, 2006 at 12:40 pmNo. 54 -For one thing, Gore claimed brining down “the wall†was a bi-partisan effort.
Reagan didn’t do shit to bring down any wall, Photo-op speaches don’t bring down walls, failing communist government does. Notice how the only “lie” that sucker-baby mentioned was something COMPLETELY unrelated to the Global warming debate.
July 21st, 2006 at 12:40 pmHarkin, Kerry and the rest of the ignorant lot even made up lies about the Contras to keep commies in power.
[snip]
Comment by Suck the Baby’s Skull Out — July 21, 2006 @ 12:33 pm
What, exactly, were those lies, and what’s your source for proving that they were lies?
July 21st, 2006 at 12:44 pmIn the interest of keeping an open mind, check out this editorial from a climatologist at MIT who thinks dissent and true ‘debate’ on global warming doesn’t really take place. He served on the IPCC, but thought the report’s summary was misleading.
The way to convince people like Inhofe that global warming is caused by human activity is to acknowledge that dissent among climatologists does indeed exist and adress that dissent head-on with facts.
July 21st, 2006 at 12:45 pmThe Republicans..the Party of Lies. They tell so many blatant lies that it’s impossible to trust anything a Republican says anymore.
July 21st, 2006 at 12:47 pmI actually saw an Inconvenient Truth and cannot necessarily argue the facts of global warming, but it was a pack of lies. For one thing, Gore claimed brining down “the wall†was a bi-partisan effort. That is an outright LIE. Democrats fought Reagan tooth and nail to keep communism alive. Harkin, Kerry and the rest of the ignorant lot even made up lies about the Contras to keep commies in power.
Why the left is pushing a has-been sore loser like Gore is beyond me. Nonetheless, thanks!
Comment by Suck the Baby’s Skull Out
And you dont feel embarressed with these lies of yours at all?
I grew up right wing republican.. I still like Reagan … fact is however that all people were happy about the berlin wall coming down. Also the USA was guilty in the Iran-Contra affair in support death squads that murdered south americans NOT USSR communists… there is nothing wrong with calling yourself ANYTHING … including communist… your actions make the difference… the “communists” in guatemala were just normal people that were taking their country back from American backed companies… and they paid for that with their lives…
The left supports Gore probably because he is a basically honest person which is why the right hate him so much… they want to live in fantasy land and TRUTH messes that up for them.
July 21st, 2006 at 12:48 pmdoublethink
July 21st, 2006 at 12:53 pmUse this clip against him. Anybody this stupid should not be in any government. It is criminal for OK to be represented by someone so stupid.
July 21st, 2006 at 12:54 pmMeanwhile, as non-scientists debate non-scientists about, of course, incredibly sophisticated SCIENCE, the real question is whether or not there will be any Iraqis left to witness next week. Americans are murdering innocent people and performing GENOCIDE for all the world to see and the issue that you all choose to “discuss” is whether or not the pollution spewed from your gluttony is harmful to the planet? An issue, by the way, resolved in the 70’s but, amazingly, beyond the comprehension of today’s “intellectual” American.
American ignorance is as vast, it seems, as its lack of morality and decency. I’m wondering, how many murders do you have to commit before it becomes an issue to you?
And a little hint for you: The “terrorists” you seek are no further away than your bathroom mirror.
Wake up!
May peace be with us all.
July 21st, 2006 at 12:55 pm[...] They can’t be so stupid as to believe this. Thay can’t be so brainlesss as to not know the facts. So,they must be lying. “One scientist”? Try thousands of scientists. Lies lies lies lies. Delusion. Paranoia. [...]
July 21st, 2006 at 12:59 pmHumanist,
some of the more astute posters here are Americans. Please don’t lump us all together.
Peace and Blessings to you as well.
July 21st, 2006 at 1:00 pmOur state has Bunning and McConnell. This guy is a genius compared to Bunning.
Comment by bmc// — July 21, 2006 @ 12:25 pm
Yeah, what happened to Bunning? From Hall of Fame pitcher to Hall of Fame wingnut.
July 21st, 2006 at 1:02 pmwell said, humanist.
it is downright shameful, in my opinion, for think progress to day after day after day beat the same dead horse of global warming. it must make them feel as if they are really doing something cool and ‘progressive’.
it is really ‘progressive-lite’ sort of posturing, and does not move the ball forward at all. think progress merely hypnotizes its community with the shiney object, whilst, as you say, the unsettled issues that are NOW, such as the united states supporting the genocide in lebanon, go silent.
i think the root of this silliness is the funding of think progress and its board of old clinton folks… as you may have read elsewhere, bill clinton will be supporting lieberman. it is telling that podesta and other clintonites run this site and that such stories go untouched!
think progress is pro-israeli and, one can only assume, derive a substantial amount of their contributions from pro-israeli, middle of the road, clinton democrats.
July 21st, 2006 at 1:03 pmThe real villians are the folks at CNN, who gave this bullshit artist air time and collaborated in the dissemination of his lies.
They must be taking a page from the ‘Fair & Balanced’ Faux News.
Comment by TripMaster Monkey — July 21, 2006 @ 11:43 am
This is the real concern. When will CNN allow the truth to be told? On CNN International at 3 AM?
We really need to target CNN.
And BTW, I never watch FOX but see clips of Democrarts on their network, why?
July 21st, 2006 at 1:03 pm#64, Humanist – Sorry, I thought discussing Global Warming and the future of THE ENTIRE PLANET AND ALL ITS SPECIES (not just greedy humans) was a pretty relevant thing here, considering this thread is about what Sen. Inhofe stated with regard to global warming. I had no idea that we should immediately switch gears back to Iraq in this thread in addition to the new thread from the main page that, well, dicusses the war in Iraq.
Global warming is extremely important to talk about because it affects the entire planet and all species of life, plant and animal. If we do not start taking action now, whether or not a war is going on, we are merely contributing to future destruction and demise.
I don’t know about you, but the comprehension of my average “intellectual†American brain can handle discussing, debating, and taking action on more than important issue at a time. Can yours?
July 21st, 2006 at 1:04 pmtaking action on more than important issue at a time.
Should read “more than one important issue at a time.”
July 21st, 2006 at 1:06 pmHumanist,
some of the more astute posters here are Americans. Please don’t lump us all together.
Peace and Blessings to you as well.
Comment by Briseadh na Faire
Humanist wants us to get a bunch of guns and rush the white house… So after all the dust clears would we have a stalin running the white house afterwards? A hitler? Evil is often born from chaotic violence… how would you like to have an unaccountable zealot with their finger on USAs nukes? That could happen… hell maybe it already has… but Bush seems to not have been able to pull the dictator bit all the way just yet… lets wait and see if we cant get through this without all out chaos shall we? Will the murder of the Iraqis continue while we “wait”? Yep … but we already know that prejudiced people like those that support Bush are murderers… we will hopefully put them in prison once the white house gets passed on to the next person.
July 21st, 2006 at 1:06 pmMay peace be with you all eternally………..you miserable slimey pieces of excrement
July 21st, 2006 at 1:06 pmIt never ceases to amze me how angry the right-wing is. For all thier chiding about Micheak Moore and Dean, they always seem to have the most shrill, hateful wackso around. And this one’s a U.S. Senator for crying out loud.
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#66-Briseadh,
I understand what you are saying, and I agree with the basic principle. However, it’s a little late to separate out the peas from the carrots when the whole pot of soup has gone bad.
Is it realistic to forgive the atrocities being carried out by the USA because there are a “few” good Americans left? Is that the solace you present to the Iraqi parent as they hold the lifeless body of their child in their arms? Is that reasonable?
Stop the murders and then convince me who the “good” and “bad” Americans are. That is the only humane and sane approach. Wouldn’t you agree?
Peace.
July 21st, 2006 at 1:08 pmI just called the Senator’s office to see if they could point me to a source that proves the IPCC report only included one scientist…they state that he was referring to Michael Mann. I told them that there were literally hundreds of scientists, including skeptics, who all came to the same conclusion and asked once again for his source. She referred me to a website where I could read a transcript from a floor speech by the Senator…the source then is the Senator himself. I balked at using the Senator’s own speech as a source…she transferred me to the press office…left a message…they’ll get back to me. I have to say it felt good to push back. I highly recommend it. Call these offices and push these people on their misinformation campaigns. For all of those who are as frustrated as I am, push back!
July 21st, 2006 at 1:09 pmGlobal warming is extremely important to talk about because it affects the entire planet and all species of life, plant and animal. If we do not start taking action now, whether or not a war is going on, we are merely contributing to future destruction and demise.
to parrotlover: DUHHHHHH.
to whom are you speaking??? everyone knows that. the special-interest bastards will always be there saying otherwise. ignore them. you know they are wrong. i know they are wrong. EVERYONE who isn’t bought off knows they are wrong.
move on!!! every day, often three times a day, this site beats the same dead horse, and the same people come in here and make the same arguments, rantings, statistics, ramblings, and generallly each thread ends the same way!!!
the global warming debate is over. everywhere, that is, but this web-site. meanwhile, substantive issues that are not settled and are truly dynamic, go untouched!
July 21st, 2006 at 1:09 pmThat is the guy in charge of our Environment?????
July 21st, 2006 at 1:12 pmSomeone HELP US!
If Gore if full of crap he must have been in the way of the crap
July 21st, 2006 at 1:14 pmcoming out of Inhofe’s mouth.
Not only is this primate retarded, he depends on the Oil & Gas
industry to keep him in office.
Is he up for re-election, Oklahoman’s?
There’$ the bottom line: as long as his family doesn’t have to spend $2,750/year to deal with it, Inhofe doesn’t care whether global warming is real, nor what or who causes it if it is.
July 21st, 2006 at 1:17 pm#72-Gerald,
I have called for no such violence or foolishness, only a moron would even consider such actions.
And, my friend, you say:
lets wait and see if we cant get through this without all out chaos shall we? Will the murder of the Iraqis continue while we “wait� Yep … but we already know that prejudiced people like those that support Bush are murderers…
I have never seen a more racist and vile comment in my life. You murder and it’s okay because you cannot figure out a way to take your finger off of the trigger? That’s your justification? And, if the lives that were being taken (murdered) during your “wait and see†period that you suggest were AMERICANS, you’d be in a frenzy right now (and don’t even play the soldier card, they are neither innocent or comparable in number). Your racism greatly overshadows your intellect.
Wait and see? Pathetic.
Wake up!
May peace be with us all.
July 21st, 2006 at 1:20 pmHas anyone found out yet if Inhofe has a Gay person in his family? Remember he claimed NO Gays have ever existed in his family and NO divorces either, but he failed to mention pedophilia > lol.
July 21st, 2006 at 1:24 pmGlenn Beck – “you`re either a nut job or you`re just clearly in bed with big oil” — False statement, you can be both a nut job and in bed with big oil at the same time.
Glenn Beck – “and thus you should have no credibility” — True statement
thus, Glenn Beck is not always wrong!
July 21st, 2006 at 1:24 pmSeanS,
Check this about Lindzen.
http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2006/04/lindzen-point-by-point/
No you cannot argue with a dishonest asshole like Lindzen. He also believes that tobacco does not cause cancer. Hello?
You don’t argue with someone who still claims the Earth is flat. You dismiss him, ridicule him and send him to hell.
July 21st, 2006 at 1:25 pmEnough is enough. He has been doing this shit for way too long. He has been discredited over and over again. He just can’t shut up because he is too coward to admit that he’s simply a bad, untalented scientist (yes people like that do exist) who has been wrong all along so instead he collects his money from his pals in the fossil fuel industry and continues to spread his lies.
“the global warming debate is over. everywhere, that is, but this web-site”
No. The global warming debate is over. Everywhere, that is, but Red America.
July 21st, 2006 at 1:29 pmDear Senator Horse’s Ass,
Please, oh please, show us what you’re made of. Challenge Al Gore to a debate on it. Rather than just shoot your foaming mouth off on a nice safe talk show hosted by a deranged right-wing blunderbuss, why don’t you go mano-a-mano, brainstem-a-brain, on network TV up against Al? Maybe then we could finally put this thing to rest and the dipshits who still believe people like you could watch your weak-ass arguments, if you can even muster any, get shredded right before their vacuous eyes.
July 21st, 2006 at 1:31 pmThe more these ridiculous people talk, the more awareness they bring to the situation. They aren’t going to make people think there’s nothing going on with their words. They are instead going to make people think that there may just be something to this global warming business, and maybe we all ought to think about it and do something about it. The people in this country aren’t stupid. We all know that this particular administration only crows the loudest against something they are trying to hide. Let’s encourage these ignoramuses to keep on blabbing, because through them and their incessant nay-saying they bring these issues to the forefront.
July 21st, 2006 at 1:35 pm#85
well, screw red america! why bother with proving something to them over and over again and having them say ‘no’.
think progress must not allow the red states to frame the debate, any debate, becuse the red states are evil and are not intellectually honest enough to admit defeat. they need to be defeated only once! you have done that. case closed.
all it takes is a red state monkey to scratch his groin and speak to his special interests against the existence of global warming, and this site will give him attemtion!
July 21st, 2006 at 1:38 pmComment by Humanist — July 21, 2006 @ 1:08 pm
I am beginning to wonder if someone is using your name. Up until now I have agreed with your posts. But this one sound in racism and bigotry. Insert a race or nationality of your choice, for murders are occuring world-wide. You could as easily have said Israelies, or Lebonese, or Iraqis, or Columbians, or blacks, or Mexicans, or Asians etc.c etc., etc.
Why condemn the good with the bad? If a body’s immune system has been overrun by disease, would you condemn and/or kill the patient? Or would you give the patient what she needs to heal? America can use a dose of healing right now.
Think Peace. It can’t hurt, and it just might help.
July 21st, 2006 at 1:40 pmIsn’t this the same guy who claims that nobody in his family has ever fronicated, divorced, been gay, or even sinned? That alone is enough to tell you he is a lying sack of shit or he is crazy as a bat.
July 21st, 2006 at 1:41 pmI’d be interested to see what contributions have been made to his campaign by Exxon, BP, etc.
In the interest of full disclosure of course.
July 21st, 2006 at 1:41 pmAll the recent science fiction proves he’s right. Now can we move on to the important issues, like making sure dinosaur clones don’t run amok? I suggest an autoloading 12-guage, but you have to watch the bushes to your right. Them lizards is sneaky!
July 21st, 2006 at 1:43 pmhttp://yosemite.epa.gov/oar/globalwarming.nsf/content/index.html
Try going to this site to get your facts straight.
July 21st, 2006 at 1:46 pm#54 My Baby Sucked My Skull Out
I actually saw an Inconvenient Truth and cannot necessarily argue the facts of global warming, but it was a pack of lies. For one thing, Gore claimed brining down “the wall†was a bi-partisan effort. That is an outright LIE. Democrats fought Reagan tooth and nail to keep communism alive. Harkin, Kerry and the rest of the ignorant lot even made up lies about the Contras to keep commies in power.
Why the left is pushing a has-been sore loser like Gore is beyond me. Nonetheless, thanks!
Comment by Suck the Baby’s Skull Out
Really? That’s the way you remember it? Or that’s what some other loon told you happened back then? Just wishing that that had happened doesn’t mean it did. Not even if you wish real hard. And pulling a thought out of your rear end is not the same thing as actual knowledge. In reality, you have no idea what happened in the 80s, or what Kerry or Harkin or anyone else was doing back then. I’d love to educate you about the whole Contras and communism thing, and about Salvadoran death squads, too. But, it’s off-topic and so are you.
When you claim that “An Inconvenient Truth” is a pack of lies, could you cite a source for your opposing view?
July 21st, 2006 at 1:48 pm#89-Briseadh,
I do not understand where you read “racism†into my comment. For the record, I condemn all murder, regardless of what color or gender or religion or group or affiliation or nation that the murderer belongs to. I see no such distinctions or justifications as you imply.
Now, your analogy is an okay one, but you do not seem to realize that it only supports what I say. If you have a diseased organ, the whole body is sick. You do not remove the organ to treat it. Nor is the rest of the body “okay†during the illness. To expand then upon your analogy, if alcohol consumption is causing liver damage, you do not continue to consume alcohol based on the logic that the rest of your organs are okay with it. Not if you expect to live, by the way.
Please stop the murder and the slow suicide, that you so aptly identified, that you are committing! It has to end now, cannot you see that?
May peace be with us all.
July 21st, 2006 at 1:50 pmIs it realistic to forgive the atrocities being carried out by the USA because there are a “few†good Americans left?
Humanist
Well well Humanist. You’ve just said that “Americans” have commited atrocities. Has Hezbollah commited atrocities? Your such a hypocrite.
July 21st, 2006 at 1:50 pmGo see a new report on the catastrophe that is global warming on SSA Blog
http://www.sunstateactivist.or/ssablog.php
It’s a new report linking devastating wildfires with climate change and warmer temps. That bastard Inhofe should know; he’s from Oklahoma, whre the temps are 100+ right now. Is that representing your constituents well Jim? Ignoring their impending economic collapse?
http://www.sunstateactivist.org/ssablog.php
July 21st, 2006 at 1:52 pm#88, james risser – If we just say “gosh we’re right, they’re wrong, so let’s just shut up,” we’ll end up with somebody like george w bush again in 2008. If they push, we HAVE to push back. We have to! No matter how obvious it is. If we let them, they’d find a reason to start arguing about the earth being flat and that it’s an “unsettled issue.” Passively letting them rant and then not responding has been one of the Democrats’ problems these past years. We cannot let them get away with spreading lies as truth and then saying nothing to retaliate. These people are appearing on major news shows, papers, magazines, etc. These people either are or appear to be in an office of authority and speak as if everything they say is 100% true. The “truth” they offer is also saying that “everything is okay” and that we do not need to make any sacrifices. Guess what? People like being comforted. As much as I would love to just ignore them and not spend my time and energy arguing and discussing all of this here and everywhere else I do, I cannot stop. If we stop, they will not. Guess what will happen then?
And who the hell says Iraq is less of a “settled” issue than global warming? Pulling out of Iraq and providing more humanitarian aid has been “settled” for me as much as global warming or any other “liberal” topic in the USA.
I also firmly believe global warming is more important. Given the word, we could be out of Iraq by the end of the year. Combatting global warming is going to be an ongoing problem for centuries. Human population is still exploding and we’re using more energy than ever. There is no end in site. Kyoto and other calls for limits are merely reducing levels somewhat, not bring the climate back to equilibrium. This is a HUGE topic with tons of “unsettled” variables.
Now I don’t mean to trivialize the tragedy that is Iraq, but I’m getting tired of these pseudo-liberals that seem to come off as thinking they are “better” than the rest of us because they’ve basically given up on fighting the right-wing wackos and their wackiness.
We can’t give up on ANY front.
July 21st, 2006 at 1:56 pmIt’s SUMMER TIME guys. Yes, its July. Its hot and humid and, well, its SUMMER TIME. I wonder why we haven’t had as many hurricanes this year?
July 21st, 2006 at 1:56 pm#96-JIM,
I condemn all murder, regardless of what color or gender or religion or group or affiliation or nation that the murderer belongs to.
You seem to complain that I am focusing on just Americans. Well, dolt, there are two reasons for such that should be very obvious to anyone with a modicum of intelligence:
1. I am currently speaking to AMERICANS
2. Americans are currently the most prolific murderers on the world stage.
I hope that clarifies things for you.
Peace.
July 21st, 2006 at 1:56 pmhezbollah is not comparable with the united states. it is composed of several hundreds, perhaps thousands of disenchanted, oppressed people. the united states is responsible for the conditions that foment hezbollah’s oppression.
these two or three armed israeli soldiers were probably on the border of lebanon and israel when they were ‘captured’… israel has for years gone in and out of southern lebanon on ‘patrols’.
for israel to commit war crimes, with the approval of the us government–to kill thousands of lebanese civilians, is not comparable at all to anything hezbollah is capable of doing to the precious israelis…
July 21st, 2006 at 1:58 pm#95, Humanist – I’m not exactly sure what you want the average person to do? Physically fly over to Iraq and force the US military to stand down? Why don’t YOU go do that? Meanwhile, back in reality, I’ll be fighting tooth and nail for a change in USA leadership, while donating my time and money to charities, which will actually work to benefit all of the causes I believe in.
July 21st, 2006 at 2:01 pm#87 Gay Bear
They aren’t going to make people think there’s nothing going on with their words. They are instead going to make people think that there may just be something to this global warming business, and maybe we all ought to think about it and do something about it.
True. In fact, I think when someone like Inhofe gets wacky like this, it’s a cry for help: “Help! These treehuggers are going to ruin the good thing I’ve got going with the energy companies! I was counting on a big fact lobbying contract when I leave the Senate!”
Look at who his top contributors were in the last election cycle:
1 Koch Industries $22,750
2 National Rural Electric Cooperative Assn $19,044
3 Cummins Inc $16,000
4 Murray Energy Corp $15,200
5 Associated Builders & Contractors $15,000
6 OGE Energy $14,500
Biggest PAC contributors:
Energy/Nat Resource $63,000:
Oil & Gas $17,000
Misc Energy $2,000
Electric Utilities $41,000
Environmental Svcs/Equipment $1,000
Waste Management $2,000
(Courtesy of opensecrets.org)
July 21st, 2006 at 2:02 pmI see what your saying james risser, your making a POINT. Humanist on the other hand, claims to be so even handed about affairs on the “third planet from the sun”. Yet, he refuses to say if Hezbollah has EVER murdered someone. EVER. He can’t bring himself to say it.
Peace be unto all of those who drink goat milk, or, however you guys say it….
July 21st, 2006 at 2:02 pmPassively letting them rant and then not responding has been one of the Democrats’ problems these past years. We cannot let them get away with spreading lies as truth and then saying nothing to retaliate. These people are appearing on major news shows, papers, magazines, etc. These people either are or appear to be in an office of authority and speak as if everything they say is 100% true.
i say screw them. your reply to their extremist propoganda legitimizes it beyond what it is worth. you are arguing with three year old children that keep your attention with ‘no, it isn’t’ ‘yes, it is’ ‘no, it isn’t’ ‘YES IT IS’ sort of debate.
the democrats continue to lose because they have no spine.
you misinterpet what i mean by ’settled’. the global warming debate is settled in that you have made a sufficiently strong argument that only a damn fool would deny. the fact that damn fools do deny it, does not mean by repeating it, you will finally convince them. the other ‘less settled’ topics i am referring to are the dynamic issues that change hour by hour.
to, as you suggest, push back on these special interest supported red state scratching monkeys is not worth your time. all you do is win today’s tic-tac-toe match with a retarded monkey…. what sort of victory is that????
July 21st, 2006 at 2:07 pm#102-Parrot,
You need to stop the murder, it cannot be any more plain and simple than that. Do you really believe that “donating to charity” absolves you of your sin of complacency regarding the murders that are occurring in your name, by your army, funded by your tax dollars? Are you really that obtuse?
If you need suggestions, here’s some: Get off of your obese backside and DO SOMETHING rather than wait and see what happens. Stop purchasing anything but life’s essentials. Protest every day. Post the pictures of the dead Iraqi children on your house for all of your neighbors to see. Need I go on?
May peace be with us all.
July 21st, 2006 at 2:07 pmWe are Human Waves crashing against our planet. Its time to vote fools and puppets like James Inhofe out of office as the lairs they are. Its plain and simple: vote them out of office.
If you dont like who is running against them, then just write in Jon Steward for the position. In time it will make a difference!
Peace
July 21st, 2006 at 2:16 pmCasey Kochmer
A Personal Tao
#105, james risser – I used to believe the same thing. NOT responding, in my opinion, legitimizes them when they appear on CNN, MSNBC, ABC, NBC, CBS, Fox News, and so on… That means they are spouting off nonsense and nobody would be contradicting them.
However, point taken, james risser. We just disagree on how to deal with these, how you so aptly put it, 3 year old children. I respect your opinion, but disagree.
July 21st, 2006 at 2:17 pmIf my state ever elected an idiot like that, I think I would go around and beat everyone over the head.
http://www.americansdebate.com
July 21st, 2006 at 2:17 pm#102-Parrot,
I apologize for making the comment about “your obese backside”. That was uncalled for and disrespectful. I sincerely apologize for that indiscretion.
Peace.
July 21st, 2006 at 2:22 pmI know how to stop murderers. KILL THEM. Right Humanist? What a total loser. Your a joke. You can’t even answer a simple question. Here maybe this is more simple for your little brain…
HAS ANY MEMBER OF ANY ISLAMIC TERRORIST GROUP EVER MURDERED ANYONE?????
July 21st, 2006 at 2:23 pmCan you guys ever open your eyes and ears and hear a different point of view?… You are all so convinced, that any differing facts must be lies from the lying liars… The only evidence I ever see is selectively peer reviewed, outdated, misrepresented proven incorrect or just does not pass the smell test… And that goes for both sides of the isle… I have seen the slant, spin and bias from both sides but try and be a little more open minded…
This is NASA’s latest report…
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2003/03/030321075236.htm
July 21st, 2006 at 2:23 pm#106, Humanist – Now I know you are insane. As a pacifist and vegetarian, I don’t even kill nor condone killing of animals, let alone people. And I am certainly not complacent with the issues facing the United States’ corruption and illegal wars. Grouping all Americans together due to the opinions of about a third of the nation is just as bad as when the religious fundamentalists group together all Muslims as “evil.”
And while we’re on the subject. What the heck have YOU done to end the war in Iraq? …Other than sit on YOUR obese backside and complain about Americans on this website? And do you live only on bare minimum essentials? I’d say not since you have internet access.
Please rejoin reality.
July 21st, 2006 at 2:24 pm#112 – I dont remember anybody here saying that study is not true. Can’t climate change be due to more than one reason? The importance is how much is due to human activity. Recent studies say that humans contribute significantly to climate change. To say what humans do is NOT contributing is just silly this day and age. We cannot stop the sun, but we certainly can stop what WE are doing to contribute. And that becomes MORE relevant, not less, with more than one factor causing positive temperature increases. That article, to me, suggests that human carbon reductions need to be pursued MORE agressively, not less.
July 21st, 2006 at 2:29 pmI wonder how the Ice Age ended? The Earth (AKA third planet from the sun, right Humanist?) had to heat up somehow. The Earth’s temperatures have always been in flux. Maybe we are starting a new warm cycle, and maybe mankind has sped it up. But no one is 1000% certain.
July 21st, 2006 at 2:32 pm#113-Parrot,
I’m a vegetarian (technically a vegan) as well. I hope that you are experiencing the health benefits that I have witnessed.
Now, I understand what you are saying about the divisions of your country and I also understand your frustration with such. However, it is the United States of America which is performing the atrocities. Not the “republican” or “democrat” USA, but the whole country. It is your solemn duty to stop the murders occurring in your name, by your country. Do you not see it that way? Please explain to me how you would, with a straight face, explain your position to an Iraqi parent as they hold the lifeless and brutally murdered body of their child in their arms.
May peace be with us all.
July 21st, 2006 at 2:32 pm#116 – how could I as one person be expected to stop the rest of my country from participating in a war I don’t agree with? I’ve done what I can – protest, campaign, donate money, post blogs, talk about the issues with people, etc.
So far it hasn’t done much to stop any of it. I can’t personally be held responsible, that is BS I have been against the war from the start.
July 21st, 2006 at 2:38 pmMaybe we are starting a new warm cycle, and maybe mankind has sped it up. But no one is 1000% certain.
Comment by COMMENT BY JIM — July 21, 2006 @ 2:32 pm
And what is the absolute worst thing about assuming that human beings are behind all of this?
July 21st, 2006 at 2:38 pmExplain it to the mothers and fathers who have lost sons and daughters to the hands of Islamic terrorists Humanist. You love lumping all Americans together, so how bout we lumb you together with some, oh, well, maybe some, GOAT SHIT……
Peace be with all people who own pure breed Arabian sheep, or however you say it….
July 21st, 2006 at 2:38 pmWe CAN be 1000% certain that CO2 is a greenhouse gas – that it traps heat in the Earth’s atmosphere. We CAN also be certain that human activities have increased the CO2 content of the atmosphere by 30% so far and it gets worse every year. So, we CAN be certain that humans are warming the planet and it will only continue to accelerate at this rate.
Speculation in one area of science does not prevent another area from having certainty.
On a side note, one theory I heard which makes a lot of sense was that the last ice age was ended due to a buildup of CO2 from volcanoes. Because there were fewer plants around at that time to remove CO2 from the atmosphere it was allowed to increase in concentration until it reached a tipping point and the climate warmed back up.
July 21st, 2006 at 2:41 pmBob’s Your Uncle
If we start going by what people assume to be this, then that, then another thing, when does that little “assuming thing” stop. We should all want to know truths, not theories.
July 21st, 2006 at 2:42 pmWe also can’t be 1000% certain that God exists.
July 21st, 2006 at 2:43 pm#116, Humanist – Yes I have enjoyed health benefits in addition to it actually “opening” a wide variety of foods to me — which is the opposite I thought would happen since technically I’m “restricting” certain food intake.
As for the war, the fact is, I would no more easily be able to explain to that grieving Iraqi mother the actions of American soldiers than she would be able to explain why Iraqi “insurgent” groups have murdered thousands of American soldiers to their grieving mothers.
Prejudice and stereotypes are dangerous. I am a pacifist (which is fairly rare even among liberal types) and, therefore, cannot and will not use violence to end violence. I disagree with the invasion of Iraq as much as I disagree with any war.
#117, readyforchange, explained my position best.
July 21st, 2006 at 2:45 pmreadyforchange
Could the destruction of the rain forests contribute? Could the sun have something to say about it. CO2 is increasing. At a record rate. But tell me this, are you for Kyoto? If you are, how is it that China is given a pass. China doesn’t have to comply. But everyone has to trash the U.S., which puts out less polution than the E.U.
July 21st, 2006 at 2:46 pm#117-ready,
I understand your frustration, and I applaud the fact that you are doing something. However, do not confuse “effort†with “resultsâ€.
So many have asked “what more can we do?†and I’ve offered suggestions every time such as:
- Stop purchasing non-essential items
- Organize a general strike
- Stop paying your taxes
- Protest every day
- Place photos of dead Iraqi children all over your house
These are but a few non-violent suggestions and there are many other non-violent options as well. Each demands sacrifice, and it seems to be the sacrifice part that tips the scale. That is disturbing considering the ramifications of your inaction.
Peace.
July 21st, 2006 at 2:46 pm#121, bob – You have been sucked into the misinformation about the definition of a theory.
Citation: http://wordnet.princeton.edu/perl/webwn?s=theory
You are confusing “theory” and “hypothesis.”
July 21st, 2006 at 2:48 pmAnd Judd misleads yet again.
Even with the “array of evidence”, the Mann study has only been given a “plausible” rating. Dishonest hacks like Judd will continue to lie about this though. If the science isn’t strong enough on its own, juice it up, ey Judd? That’s the AGW debate in a nutshell.
July 21st, 2006 at 2:49 pm#124, JIM – I am not comfortable with China getting a pass anymore than the USA. Why do right wingers always do that? “But China is doin’ it!” Would you jump off a bridge if… you know the rest.
July 21st, 2006 at 2:49 pmIs there any way this guy can be thrown in jail? Public indecency maybe?
July 21st, 2006 at 2:50 pm#126–That was Comment By Jim’s post, not mine.
July 21st, 2006 at 2:50 pm#125, Humanist – First, many are doing as you suggested. What else is there short of “fighting violence with violence” which is not an option for me.
Second… “Stop purchasing non-essential items” – How does that help Iraqis? I will stop purchasing (and have stopped purchasing) anything from companies whose actions contradict my own beliefs. I’ve done this many times. It’s called boycotting. Does it work? Who knows. But how does my living on bread and water help Iraq?
Third… “Place photos of dead Iraqi children all over your house.” This just pisses off the pro-war people and makes them more pro-war. Weird, but true. Also it increases the chance of your house being vandalized. Again, this does not help Iraq. Conversation and dialog are much more effective than pictures of dead children in your yard.
Fourth… “Stop paying your taxes.” Okay. Then I get thrown in jail and can no longer perform the other actions you outlined. Again, how does this help Iraqis? Also, less taxes will, in the end, mean less revenue for solidiers AND humanitarian aid.
Fifth… “Protest every day.” If by protest you mean vocally disagreeing with the establishment and trying to educate new people on the subject to change the attitude of the public, then yea I do that about every day. If you mean stand outside and protest in the “public assembly” sense, some of us have to work. If we don’t, well that’s just back to the point where I’d have no resources to do any of the other things you mentioned.
Sixth… “Organize a General Strike.” This is confusing, but it might just be a strange use of words. I would strike if I belonged to a union and thought it was the best way to achieve change for my fellow union members. Striking for the war doesn’t make sense to me. If you mean organize a public protest on the streets with signs and all that, well then, yea that’s a good idea and it should be done more often.
July 21st, 2006 at 2:56 pm#123-Parrot,
I found the same thing regarding discovering the wondrous variety of foods once my eyes were opened to it. I am happy to hear that it is going well for you also.
I know that my question/scenario is a difficult one. Yet in attempting to answer it one cannot help but to see the key to this whole situation, and that is that it is beyond reason or explanation. Do not you see the trap that you all have fallen into? A more wise fellow than me summed it up perfectly and I will attempt to relay the message and apologize in advance for a probable lack in perfection regarding the actual words:
“Evil prospers only in an absence of actions by good men.â€
In other words, the current situation, which I certain most all would agree to be “evil†in nature, continues or “prospers†only because good people are not acting. You say actions are occurring. I’m saying “greatâ€, but obviously they are not the right actions or the volume is too little.
Peace.
July 21st, 2006 at 2:57 pmParrotlover77
Okay, thanks for clearing up theory with hypothesis. I’ll stay with facts. And the science on global warming is still being debated. I haven’t seen Gore’s movie yet, I’m waiting until it comes out for rental, but Al Gore is not a scientist. And I’ve read different views from scientists from all over the world on just how factual Gore’s movie is…. But I’ll decide myself when I see it.
China is not doing Kyoto. China is a mess. Their desert is growing at a massive rate. They are having multiple massive dust storms. And their rivers, man alive I’m not even going to start on that.
Oh, and Humanist, why don’t you stop terrorism while we stop the Iraq war. Total idiot.
July 21st, 2006 at 2:59 pm#132, Humanist – You and I have found common ground, which I didn’t think was possible. However, in my opinion, the goal is getting MORE PEOPLE on my side and actually VOTING, rather than just dedicating my life 100% to the goal of being a vocal figure on the forefront for ending the war.
Some people have it in them and have the ability to get people on our side by being a public figure that DOES do that, like Cindy Sheehan, for instance. However, a public dynamic speaker, I am not. I will support the Sheeans of the world with money and time, but my goal is to remove the regime that caused this war (and all the other things I disagree with) in the first place. I cannot take direct action, as in standing in front of a tank type of action. But I can sway the hearts and minds of people I come into contact with, and that’s what I do. If that isn’t enough for you, then I don’t know what would be.
But I agree, more people need to “do good.” I’d be happy if more people just voted. I think the USA is more “liberal” than just the subset that votes. The problem is, I think they feel disenfranchized or “it won’t make a difference” and therefore don’t vote. That is one of many problems that needs to be addressed.
July 21st, 2006 at 3:04 pm#133, Jim – You started out disagreeing with me, then you went on into China and proved why the USA SHOULD support Kyoto.
I’m wondering where the heck you get your “facts” from, btw. It seems all righties have this magical source of contracting evidence for global warming that the rest of the world does not have access to. I’d love to read it. And it’s a blog or somebody funded by the oil industry, spare me.
July 21st, 2006 at 3:06 pmAnd Jim, for the love of god, do not reference Michael Chrichton.
July 21st, 2006 at 3:06 pmCan’t remember the source, but heard this on the radio about six or seven months before the last election…….
AMERICAN POPULATION WHO CONSIDER THEMSELVES ……..
CONSERVATIVE 40%
MODERATE 40%
LIBERAL 20%
I can’t remember the source the radio station was using, it was a poll conducted by some university somewhere……..
July 21st, 2006 at 3:08 pmWhat facts are you questioning me on Parrotlover77? By the way, my wife and I are watching my wife’s aunt’s parakeet (I don’t know how to spell it) this weekend. She dropped it off last night. It took about ten minutes for my cat do jump on the cage. Don’t worry, little bird is fine and were keeping the cat at a distance…… I’ve never took care of a bird before….
July 21st, 2006 at 3:12 pmIt’s time for Democrats, in DC, to either call the GOP members dirty fascists to their faces, or resign for being spineless jellyfishes?! I would call Inhofe an inbred redneck creepo to his face, if I was a Dem. Senator or Representative!
July 21st, 2006 at 3:13 pm#131-Parrot,
First off, I am in complete agreement with you regarding “violenceâ€, it is never the answer.
Now, on to your questions/comments:
1. Stop purchasing non-essential items. Yours is a consumerism based economy. If you want to get the attention that you need, speak with your money. I can guarantee, without reservation, that a such a message will be heard and felt.
2. Photos. I disagree. Your media and coverage of the abomination that you call the Iraq War is so sanitized and sterile that a majority of your citizens have no idea what it actually looks like. Expose the truth, it cannot fail. For those that you claim it would incite, I believe that you vastly overestimate their number. And for you to be afraid of them is only serving to surrender your humanity. You seem a much better person than that.
3. Stop paying taxes. No, you won’t get thrown in jail, it does not work that way. But, what if you did? What if 50,000,000 Americans were arrested and thrown in jail. Do you not believe that would have an impact? Do you not see the power of that statement? Would your neighbors just allow it to happen? Think about it.
4. Protest every day. Great, keep it up.
5. General strike. Imagine for one minute what the impact would be if every American who opposes your murderous war called in “sick†for a day. Can you honestly say that you do not have power? What do you think would happen?
May peace be with us all.
July 21st, 2006 at 3:14 pmJim – “cant remember the source the radio station was using”
These are the kinds of facts I’m questioning you on.
Budgies (common parakeets) are very sweet and intelligent birds, but yes, cats are obviously natural predators, so you need to keep them very far away.
July 21st, 2006 at 3:14 pmThe earth keeps get flatter all the time. I guess time must be going backwards now.
July 21st, 2006 at 3:16 pmNo, Gore just is’nt swimming in money because of fossil fuels, Inhofe.
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July 21st, 2006 at 3:22 pmI guess all of you guys are more progressive than I am…I think global warming is a crock.
July 21st, 2006 at 3:23 pm#140, Humanist – As interesting as your ideas are, and as much impact as it would indeed have, organizing something of that magnitude is nearly impossible. Not enough people have the dedication. And just myself not paying taxes, calling in sick to protest the war, etc., is a not even a blip on the radar and will cause more harm to myself and discredit my words and actions (which would have the opposite effect of peace). Did you ever think that those actions would be smeared as the protestors in France were? “Lazy kids who don’t want to work” was a common phrase around here. You can be sure the same would be true for an anti-war movement that skipped work and didn’t pay taxes!!!
I prefer personal contact, conversation, and debate, to win the hearts and minds of those who otherwise either agree with the war or do not have any idea of what is going on. It’s my style and it’s more effective (I believe) because it will keep people thinking for a long time to come. And I do boycott products by manufacturers I do not agree with (for wahtever reason). However, I see very few consumer product manufacturers whose boycott would help the cause in Iraq. Shutting down the economy is not a resolution for Iraq, in my mind. However, I would never buy a product from the likes of Halliburton. But that is sort of moot since they have all their happy no-bid Iraqi contracts. I can’t vote with my money on that one.
You have to remember that 9/11 changed a LOT of people’s attitudes around here. If those of us left who believe in peace take too radical of an approach, we will lose them. We have to slowly escort them back to reality, not drag them back kicking and screaming.
Now, granted, if some large effort/protest/strike/boycott was started that people would actually participate in to legally protest on a very large scale, sign me up. I will be all over it.
July 21st, 2006 at 3:24 pmParrotlover77
The world is getting warmer. The earth has cycles. C02 is a gas. Beyond that, it’s all debatable.
Humanist, your not for peace. You want to create chaos in the U.S. Your a terrorist sympathizer. You and your gay buddy Evil Spaniard need to look in the mirror before you call people murderers…
July 21st, 2006 at 3:35 pmWow, he’s still at stage 1 of the 4 stages of global warming denial:
http://www.treehugger.com/files/2006/06/4_stages_denial.php
July 21st, 2006 at 3:37 pm#146-Parrot,
I hear you, but do not agree. Regarding the French strike that you referenced, you talk about how it was viewed but then ignore the fact that it was completely successful. And that was just over “minimum wage”.
And I also have to disagree on the consumer strike issue. Your corporations require profits to exist and many are exploiting your “patriotism” in their advertising campaigns. Imagine the change that would occur if your corporations had to lure back consumers by taking an anti-war stance. If, as you claim, most of your country disagrees with the war, then you are talking about the majority#146-Parrot,
I hear you, but do not agree. Regarding the French strike that you referenced, you talk about how it was viewed but then ignore the fact that it was completely successful. And that was just over “minimum wage”.
And I also have to disagree on the consumer strike issue. Your corporations require profits to exist and many are exploiting your “patriotism” in their advertising campaigns currently. Imagine the change that would occur if your corporations had to lure back consumers by taking an anti-war stance. If, as you claim, most of your country disagrees with the war, then you are talking about the majority of the consumer block.
Of course, none of my suggestions will work if they are not attempted. But what do you all have to lose? Why cannot you see that the Iraqi child who will die today is just as valuable and precious as your child? What if the price for your patience was that you had to send your child to Iraq? Would you be as reserved?
May peace be with us all.
of the consumer block.
Of course, none of my suggestion will work if they are not attempted. But what do you all have to lose? Why cannot you see that the Iraqi child who will die today is just as valuable and precious as your child? What if the price for your patience was that you had to send your child to Iraq? Would you be as reserved?
May peace be with us all.
July 21st, 2006 at 3:38 pmWow, that went strange. Let’s try again:
#146-Parrot,
I hear you, but do not agree. Regarding the French strike that you referenced, you talk about how it was viewed but then ignore the fact that it was completely successful. And that was just over “minimum wage”.
And I also have to disagree on the consumer strike issue. Your corporations require profits to exist and many are exploiting your “patriotism” in their advertising campaigns currently. Imagine the change that would occur if your corporations had to lure back consumers by taking an anti-war stance. If, as you claim, most of your country disagrees with the war, then you are talking about the majority of the consumer block.
Of course, none of my suggestions will work if they are not attempted. But what do you all have to lose? Why cannot you see that the Iraqi child who will die today is just as valuable and precious as your child? What if the price for your patience was that you had to send your child to Iraq? Would you be as reserved?
May peace be with us all.
July 21st, 2006 at 3:39 pmMike
I’m not denying the world is getting warmer. I’m questioning everyones PANICKING LOGIC. Where are the hurricanes? Hurricanes have cycles just like the earths temperature…
July 21st, 2006 at 3:41 pmWOW, Just WOW, the stupidity of people trying to deny that this earth is quickly going down the toilet flushed by the hand of man is inconcievable.
July 21st, 2006 at 3:45 pmHumanist
The French strike was successful?? Burned cars, mass beatings. YEAH, YOUR FOR PEACE. YOUR FOR WORLD TERROR. YOU DON’T DENOUNCE MURDERS BY TERRORISTS. Your full of crap. Your a N U T. Your totally insane. Oh, don’t forget hypocrite to. Preach preach preach PEACE,,,,, but you want blood,,,,, you understand the Islamic terrorists goal,,,,, that’s why you won’t critisize none of them,,,,,,,, IT’S ALL OUR FAULT,,,,,,,,,
Peace be upon you and your war like ways, or how ever you PRAY it………
July 21st, 2006 at 3:51 pmWhat I don’t get is that no one either here, in the piece shown above, or in Gore’s flick, ever addresses the issue that the Sun is in a hot cycle
If the sun is heating up, it’s emitting more energy. More of said energy is pelting Earth, and heating things up. Of course pointing this out is useless, because everyone knows the Sun has zero to do with so-called Global Warming.
July 21st, 2006 at 3:56 pmWOW, Just WOW
nostrafarius
Don’t you mean, PANICK, Just PANICK?
July 21st, 2006 at 3:57 pm#153-MORONIC COMMENTS BY JIM,
I was speaking of the General Strike performed by French citizens in regard to their disagreement with a law that their parliment passed. You are referencing the protests that occurred in France regarding the racism and hatred that was cropping up in regard to Muslims. They are not the same, just so you know.
You, young man are not just a fool, but you are a blathering fool. Enjoy these words as they are the last that I will waste upon you.
May peace be with us all.
July 21st, 2006 at 3:57 pm#150, Humanist – Point, again, taken. In the end, I still disagree that the course of action you suggested would actually work and is the best use of my time to reach the goal of world peace. I also still think taking a stand on Global Warming is something very important for me to commit time to, despite the ongoing wars.
However, I did read everything you said. And I understand and respect your beliefs on the subject.
Thanks for the discourse and debate. I’m sure the both of us will see each other’s side a little more clearly now.
#153, Comment by Troll – You hit the “comma” instead of the “period” in case you didn’t notice.
July 21st, 2006 at 3:58 pmATL,
I don’t have the links, but the sun is not any warmer then it has been n the last 1,000 years or so. Please put down the kool-aid and pay attention.
July 21st, 2006 at 4:03 pmParrotlover77
I know what I hit. Troll? Ha ha ha haaaaaa. You do need to win an election. Your bitterness has consumed you. Your little friendship with a terrorist sympathizer is pathetic. I respect liberals, but when you side with a terrorist sympathizer, man that’s tough to deal with. I’m a Troll? He’s a terrorist sympathizer. You two have fun together.
July 21st, 2006 at 4:06 pm#159, Comment by Troll – “You do need to win an election.”
Huh? I’m not running.
July 21st, 2006 at 4:10 pmParrotlover77
THANK GOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
July 21st, 2006 at 4:13 pm“Terrorist sympathizer”?
I guess Torquemada and McCarthy never really leave us, they just change their terminology.
July 21st, 2006 at 4:16 pmIs there anyone in the Congress dumber than Inhofe? Jeebus.
July 21st, 2006 at 4:16 pmnightsweat
Read the quotes idiot. Damn dude read the quotes.
July 21st, 2006 at 4:19 pmComing to you from the same guy who doesn’t have even one single gay person in his entire family history. Remember.
July 21st, 2006 at 4:21 pm#162-nightsweat,
To paraphrase PT Barnum: It takes but a minute for a fool to be born. I can assure you that cat’s mother was in labor for hours.
My attempt at some humor to close out the day.
May peace be with us all.
July 21st, 2006 at 4:26 pmLets get our priorities world war 3 is upon now lets forget about Global Warming now! SURE
Hurray its always darkest before the DAWN it must be dawn soon cause things don’t get much darker.
July 21st, 2006 at 4:31 pmHow did so many idiots end up in Congress?
July 21st, 2006 at 4:33 pmHe reads Peggy Noonan and concludes that the thousands of scientists worldwide don’t stack up to one fictional writer, Michael Crichton.
Can anyone even produce a study that confirms CO2 holds in heat… I have read plenty of blanket theories but have not seen it confirmed in a lab… Most the studies I have read show the CO2 increasing AFTER a warming period and BEFORE a cooling period. That leads me to believe that it is somehow a natural defense mechanism to overheating…
July 21st, 2006 at 4:45 pm#158 NASA disagrees with you… Pull your head out man…
ATL,
I don’t have the links, but the sun is not any warmer then it has been n the last 1,000 years or so. Please put down the kool-aid and pay attention.
Comment by Krazny — July 21, 2006 @ 4:03 pm
“Historical records of solar activity indicate that solar radiation has been increasing since the late 19th century. If a trend, comparable to the one found in this study, persisted throughout the 20th century, it would have provided a significant component of the global warming the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change reports to have occurred over the past 100 years,”
http://www.sciencedaily.com/ releases/ 2003/ 03/ 030321075236.htm
July 21st, 2006 at 4:54 pmActually, it was a handful of scientists that made the “caused by humans and we need to fix it” comment in the IPCC. Even though hundreds (not thousands) agreed that temperatures are rising, the overwhelming conclusion was that the temperature increase could be due to natural variability, they just weren’t sure. Those hundreds were two-thirds bureaucrats and one-third scientists. Once that was finalized, Hansen (and a small handful others) added the infamous line that humans are responsible.
When you state that “‘all of the recent science’ — without exception — accepts that global warming is real and caused by humans”, you are simply wrong. Check the following:
http://www.sepp.org/
http://www.oism.org/pproject/
The latter shows thousands (yes really thousands this time) of real scientists with serious concerns about global warming alarmism.
July 21st, 2006 at 5:00 pmYou know, one of these days whatever consequences there are beacause of global warming are going tocome to pass and it will hurt Sen. Inhofe and Glenn Beck as much as it will the tree-huggers. Maybe that’s what it will take.
July 21st, 2006 at 5:07 pmJim Bob, Jimmy Jim Bob, Jim Bo, Jammy Jimmy JIm Betty Bo, Jenny Jimmy Jimm Joe Bob, Jimmy Dean, Jimmy Dean Sausage, Jimmy Dean SausageHead, Jimmy BoBob Diddly, Jim Jones, Jimmy Jean Jones, Jimmy Drink The KoolAid Jones
A Tennessee Dumb Hick by any name
July 21st, 2006 at 5:16 pmWay to go CL, that was a great read…
July 21st, 2006 at 5:19 pmWait and see? Pathetic.
Wake up!
May peace be with us all.
Comment by Humanist
It is either wait and see or take guns to the white house… and you say you dont support #2 …
July 21st, 2006 at 5:28 pmUh, have you actually READ the report you speak of? It says SPECIFICALLY that the finding of the report was that humans are responsible and that there is new and greater evidence for this than ever before.
Alarmism? Please. Its realism you dolt.
July 21st, 2006 at 5:40 pmWe don’t have time to educate you on rudimentary chemistry. Try reading a book and find out for yourself. As an AP Chem student I can assure you that CO2 most definitely does hold in heat.
July 21st, 2006 at 5:42 pmIn Inhofe’s defense, in addition to the Medieval Warming Period, the IPCC left out the data from Late Paleocene Thermal Maximum which showed a 13 degree increase in global temperature rise 55 million years ago. The IPCC egregiously fails to mention global surface temperatures of 2000 degrees 4.5 billion years ago.
Being a devout creationist, Inhofe believes in a young earth( 6,000-7,000 years old), and would also dispute the above time scales, but it would support his contention of how flawed and inconsistent modern scientific thought is.
July 21st, 2006 at 5:50 pm#171
Here’s ONE line from the website you posted, that immediately discredits the entire message:
Global temperatures have cooled? What planet are they talking about!? 2005 was the hottest year on record, before that it was 2004 and now 2006 is gearing up to beat the record again. It IS getting hotter, and CO2 concentrations ARE rising. These are both EMPIRICAL facts.
I’m not sure what University this “scientist” graduated from but he should get a refund.
July 21st, 2006 at 5:51 pm#178
More confusion and misinformation.
4.5 billion years ago the Earth was still coellescing and thus had much greater surface temperature. It had NOTHING to do with climate.
That aside, NOBODY in the scientific community is arguing that there haven’t been great variations in the climate due to natural causes in the past. This DOES NOT mean that the current rise in temperature is due to natural causes as well. This is a logical fallacy.
You have to use reason, skepticism, and logic to deduce the truth. The fact is, it is getting hotter on this planet very fast and at the same time CO2 concentrations are rising dramatically. These are both verifiable facts. It is also verifiable that CO2 is a greenhouse gas. Therefore the most LOGICAL conclusion is that a rise in CO2 would cause a rise in planetary temperatures – which is EXACTLY what is happening. Nevermind the host of supporting evidence besides this line of reasoning.
July 21st, 2006 at 5:56 pm#99 – COMMENT BY JIM,
July 21st, 2006 at 6:06 pmThe jet stream has migrated north, more-so than in the last 100 years (records prior to that are not available, but could be inferred). People from Virginia to Prince Edwards Island should be prepared for a major storm, no deflecting fronts.
Just to clarify one more time:
Just because climate has varied in the past DOES NOT mean that current climate change is natural! At most this only provides a reason to “debate” current ideas that manmade CO2 emissions are the cause of current warming.
However, the inescapable truth is this:
1)The Earth has warmed measurably since humans began burning fossil fuels – most dramatically over the last 30 years which is also “coincidentally” when burning of fossil fuels sharply increased as well.
2)CO2 concentrations are increasing in our atmosphere. This is a verifiable, empirical, measured fact that has been tracked very reliably for at least the last 40 years. Beyond this point we must rely on less reliable methods such as ice core samples, but the degree of certainty is still very high.
3)CO2 is a greenhouse gas. This HAS been measured in the lab and is a well known fact. Nobody that knows anything about chemistry or physics would argue this. To debate this point is to display ignorance.
Thus, what should we expect?
The test of any scientific theory is this – do the predictions of the theory hold true to observed evidence?
The theory of global warming states that the Earth’s average surface temperature will rise as the concentration of greenhouse gases such as CO2 rise.
We know for a fact that CO2 concentrations have risen due to human influence. Has the Earth’s average surface temperature also risen? YES. That is a bona-fide confirmation that the “theory” of global warming has made a prediction which has been verified through evidence.
CASE CLOSED.
July 21st, 2006 at 6:07 pm180. readyforchange,
My post was sarcasm. I was pointing out that Inhofe was trying to use natural historic conditions( i.e 2000 degree oceans of molten rock), to compare with a contemporary manmade one, and that his personal views conflict with modern scientific thought. Sorry you didn’t get it.
July 21st, 2006 at 6:50 pmJebus, does he make Oklahoma look bad!
July 21st, 2006 at 8:41 pmWow. Sen Inhofe is stoopit.
July 21st, 2006 at 9:00 pm> http://thinkprogress.org/2006/07/21/inhofe-gore/#comment-683646
Please do let us know if the Senator’s staff finds a source the Senator used for this statement, that is, one other than himself.
The idea’s clearly being propagated through Congress; we saw this earlier in the week. I typed this while watching the House Energy hearings:
“Hearings: Rep. Stearns (Florida) has people looking at a picture in _Inconvenient_Truth_ showing a temperature change over time. The temperature data, another representative points out, is identified in the text as from the IPCC and based on Lonnie Thompson’s borehole measurements.
“Stearns is saying that all these similar charts come from the IPCC, and the IPCC comes from Mann’s chart, so people are being confused about the origin of the picture.
“He thinks that anything that looks like a recent increase has to be based on Mann’s work — or he’s trying to put in the record that misinterpretation.”
-July 19, 2006 01:45 PM (Pacific)
I await the transcript. Clearly this flat out lie is a major talking point for the lobbyists from Coal.
July 21st, 2006 at 9:23 pmdear oklahoma,
July 21st, 2006 at 9:35 pmplease stop sending these inbreds to congress. between inhofe and coburn, oklahomans are represented by the two biggest whackjobs in the senate. one can only surmise that the majority of oklahomans are inbred whackjobs as well.
why do global warming skeptics hate humanity?
July 21st, 2006 at 9:36 pmwhy do global warming skeptics hate progress?
furthermore, i reiterate,
why does tp even leave these global warming threads open for discussion? if there’s consensus, so be it. all i see are refutations of the skeptic blatherings being made in the posts and then certain commenters jumping in to simply muddy the waters again with quotes from michael crichton (second-rate author), bill gray (paranoid 20th century scientist) and michael mann (no, not the filmmaker – he’s actually a reputable guy). anyone reading the comments comes away with a very muddled version of reality (and an excuse to not consider solutions), thanks to the right-wing ‘when you lie, all you need is a tie’ debating method.
seriously, if i want the gourdhead version of global warming, i can certainly just hop right over to junkscience or seixon’s site and read it. creating a forum here to allow truth-distorting skeptics to dispute the scientific consensus just helps undermine the process of moving from the debate to the solution, which is where we should already be.
the global warming threads should be closed to comments altogether, unless they relate to discussing solutions. of course, threads on all other political (and open for discussion) topics should by all means be left open.
i’m just sayin’ – if the debate’s over, then act like it’s over. you just perpetuate the false notion that there’s still a debate with these threads.
let the dunderhead skeptics go debate it by themselves. meanwhile we’ve got problems to solve.
July 21st, 2006 at 9:41 pmGlobal warming is good because then there will be more scantily clad women (thanks for reminding me, squegeebo, #1). Yum! Or as GWB might say “bring ‘em on!”
July 21st, 2006 at 9:48 pm#
Now, I understand what you are saying about the divisions of your country and I also understand your frustration with such. However, it is the United States of America which is performing the atrocities. Not the “republican†or “democrat†USA, but the whole country. It is your solemn duty to stop the murders occurring in your name, by your country. Do you not see it that way? Please explain to me how you would, with a straight face, explain your position to an Iraqi parent as they hold the lifeless and brutally murdered body of their child in their arms.
May peace be with us all.
Comment by Humanist — July 21, 2006 @ 2:32 pm
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Humanist, there is another player here. That is, Iraqis are also dying at the hands of other Iraqis. Sunni vs. Shite. Where is your condemnation of them?
July 21st, 2006 at 10:26 pmInhofe…I think that says enough. Only Oklahomans would elect that assmonkey.
July 21st, 2006 at 10:28 pm#193 Humanist is simplistic. He thinks it is our (liberals) fault that we are in this situation. Yet, his own government oppresses the aboriginies.
July 21st, 2006 at 10:38 pmHi!
There is a Flat Earth Society. They have thousands of members, including scientists. Some of them even have PhDs in Earth Science. Does that mean that the earth is flat?
Global Warming naysayers, including the likes of major US oil companies, have paid a number of scientists and researchers to discount the human effects of global warming. Some of our conservative politicians (see above) have chimed in.
They say “Scientist X has proven Global Warming is a hoax.” Does saying, over and over again, that Global Warming doesn’t exist make it go away? Does saying, over and over again, that the Earth is flat, make it flat?
Cliff
July 21st, 2006 at 10:51 pmLRD (currently in Laredo, TX)
Nice Cliff, there are also those that believe in ID. Doesn’t mean they aren’t total morons.
July 21st, 2006 at 11:01 pmSqueegie, you do realize the hotter it is the more likely the 300 pounders are going to be wearing the spandex!!!
July 21st, 2006 at 11:13 pmGM is a hoax, Inhofe has it right. A lot of self serving (public funded) scientists have managed to take the obvious and make an industry out of it. A classic hoax in deed. How anyone who realizes that in the blink of an eye, just 20,000 years ago, Cleveland Ohio emerged from under the Great Polar Ice cap and thinks the world is in some fixed climate state must be smoking something. – 10,000 years ago, the Great Lakes were formed and there has been a relentless melting going on ever since. When did it stop scientists?? In this period, the oceans have risen an estimated 300 ft. Most climate scientists put a number at less than 1%, any effect man currently has on this happening. The most compelling happening on planet Earth in recent history is Global Warming, it has been relentless and who knows how long it will continue. The most previous hoax was Y2K where a lot of equally self serving computer scientists convinced the public that a problem, which was fixed 10 years prior, was going to devestate the earth and stop their S/S checks. That cost us big bucks!! However, unfortunately this hoax wont be revealed at the stroke of midnight 00. Chicken Little is alive and well.
July 22nd, 2006 at 12:00 amGeorge, you are so smart. A hoax would really do these scientists a whole lot of good. I feel for you, those who don’t understand science or the scientific method. I mean, really, you have to be really pathetic to think that 95% of the scientists (the ones not employed by oil companies) would have a reason to obfuscate. George, you really need to grow some critical thinking skills.
July 22nd, 2006 at 12:07 amGod Bless You Sen. Inhofe. Someone with the guts to speak the truth
July 22nd, 2006 at 12:27 amThis only means one thing: oil companies are really scared.
July 22nd, 2006 at 12:27 amRight On. You would buy that, wouldn’t you? Yes, I am calling you a moron.
July 22nd, 2006 at 12:32 amHumanist, your not for peace. You want to create chaos in the U.S. Your a terrorist sympathizer. You and your gay buddy Evil Spaniard need to look in the mirror before you call people murderers…
Comment by COMMENT BY JIM — July 21, 2006 @ 3:35 pm
And you are a scientist, right? You are nothing but an ignorant, lazy dude that feels comfortable with the killing your country is doing on behalf of people like you. So, the only terrorist here is you (you proudly support international aggression and terrorism of US) so shut up.
terrorism is “the calculated use of violence or threat of violence to attain goals that are political, religious, or ideological in nature…through intimidation, coercion, or instilling fear,†typically targeting civilians. The British government’s definition is about the same: “Terrorism is the use, or threat, of action which is violent, damaging or disrupting, and is intended to influence the government or intimidate the public and is for the purpose of advancing a political, religious, or ideological cause.†These definitions seem fairly clear and close to ordinary usage. There also seems to be general agreement that they are appropriate when discussing the terrorism of enemies. But a problem at once arises. These definitions yield an entirely unacceptable consequence: it follows that the US is a leading terrorist state, dramatically so during the Reaganite war on terror. Merely to take the most uncontroversial case, Reagan’s state-directed terrorist war against Nicaragua was condemned by the World Court, backed by two Security Council resolutions (vetoed by the US, with Britain politely abstaining).
We might want to bear them in mind when we read Bush II’s impassioned pronouncement that “the United States makes no distinction between those who commit acts of terror and those who support them, because they’re equally as guilty of murder,†and “the civilized world must hold those regimes to account.†This was proclaimed to great applause at the National Endowment for Democracy, a few days after Venezuela’s extradition request had been refused. Bush’s remarks pose another dilemma. Either the US is part of the civilized world, and must send the US air force to bomb Washington; or it declares itself to be outside the civilized world. The logic is impeccable, but fortunately, logic has been dispatched as deep into the memory hole as moral truisms. The Bush doctrine that “those who harbor terrorists are as guilty as the terrorists themselves†was promulgated when the Taliban asked for evidence before handing over people the US suspected of terrorism – without credible evidence, as the FBI conceded many months later. The doctrine is taken very seriously. Harvard international relations specialist Graham Allison writes that it has “already become a de facto rule of international relations,†revoking “the sovereignty of states that provide sanctuary to terrorists.â€
July 22nd, 2006 at 12:40 amWhy is it that most of those who deny that Global Warming has manmade origins, and is an absolutely natural occurence, just another cycle that the Earth goes through, are the very same people that swear some ‘Cosmic Muffin” created everything, including us, and that there is no such thing as ‘evolution’. So if you believe in an “Intelligent Designer’, GW can’t be a naturally occuring event, suggesting that the Earth is ‘evolving’ because that is impossible.
July 22nd, 2006 at 1:33 amGore needs to confront Inhofe directly in person and tell him to go screw himself! Nobody cares what that Oklahoma weirdo has to say about anything!
July 22nd, 2006 at 2:23 am[...] Tom is the member of a political movement that sent Americans to die based on a series of lies, of the rational and rhetorical type and is under the delusion that he is even capable of distinguishing “hard facts” from fairy tales. Tom belongs to the Sen. James Inhofe (R-OK) school of asshattery, Sen. Inhofe: ‘Gore Is Full of Crap,’ ‘All Recent Science…Confirms This Thing Is A Hoax’ Actually, “all of the recent science†— without exception — accepts that global warming is real and caused by humans. The IPCC didn’t involve “one scientist.†It involved thousands of scientists from over 120 countries, including so-called “climate skeptics†and industry representatives. [...]
July 22nd, 2006 at 2:43 am[...] Tom is the member of a political movement that sent Americans to die based on a series of lies, of the rational and rhetorical type and is under the delusion that he is even capable of distinguishing “hard facts” from fairy tales. Tom belongs to the Sen. James Inhofe (R-OK) school of asshattery, Sen. Inhofe: ‘Gore Is Full of Crap,’ ‘All Recent Science…Confirms This Thing Is A Hoax’ Actually, “all of the recent science†— without exception — accepts that global warming is real and caused by humans. The IPCC didn’t involve “one scientist.†It involved thousands of scientists from over 120 countries, including so-called “climate skeptics†and industry representatives. [...]
July 22nd, 2006 at 2:43 am[...] So there was Glenn Beck bringing Congressman James M. Inhofe (R-OK) on his radio show and on TV too. So Inhofe was talking about global warming. Considering the CO2 levels are higher than ever it is funny to consider where he receives his large bags of dollars and considering what he said. [...]
July 22nd, 2006 at 3:13 am“Faced with the choice between changing one’s mind and proving there is no need to do so, almost everyone gets busy on the proof.”
July 22nd, 2006 at 5:53 am( John Kenneth Galbraith)
Was Inhofe born stupid, or did he have to work at it?
July 22nd, 2006 at 7:41 amKrazny: Tom pointed one article out, and here’s yet another:
July 22nd, 2006 at 7:43 am
The only thing that is full of crap is the little bitch Jim Inhofe. Another coward running to a weasel right-winger’s show (I thought the media was liberal, these “liberal media” outlets sure have alot of right-wingers hosting shows now don’t they?) where he has cover.
July 22nd, 2006 at 7:55 amNo wonder the state of Oklahoma loses population every year and ranks number 47 in everything. Imhofe is a deluded idiot, who couldnt win an election for dog catcher in any decent state. I should know, I live in the hell hole. 109 degrees here today.
July 22nd, 2006 at 8:21 amThe problem with this Global Warming issue results from biased computer modeling. When the congressional hearings on warming start in earnest the computer models utilized to predict warming will be discredited.
Also, during the hearing Americans will, probably for the first time, see and hear the massive number or scientist who believe that human activity has little appreciable effect on climate.
It will be the end of the Hoax
July 22nd, 2006 at 9:18 amIf anyone is taking ATL’s link to a story on CO2Science.org seriously, the guy who runs that site is a well known oil industry-funded propaganda writer. His name is Craig Idso and he is not taken seriously at all by the scientific community:
http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Craig_Idso
As for the theory about the Sun heating up coincidentally, just as we release all that CO2 and up CO2 concentration by 30%, this theory is very attractive to contrarians, but it has no basis in science:
http://illconsidered.blogspot.com/2006/04/its-sun-stupid.html
Human-caused produced global warming due to CO2 gas emissions, on the other hand, is very well established:
http://www.heatisonline.org/contentserver/objecthandlers/index.cfm?id=3458&method=full
July 22nd, 2006 at 9:37 amAs for Larry’s problem with the models, read this post:
http://illconsidered.blogspot.com/2006/03/models-are-unproven.html
July 22nd, 2006 at 9:39 am#218- Larry, well how about that? Be sure and write when it happens, won’t you?
July 22nd, 2006 at 9:43 am[...] FINALLY! Someone who can tell their butt from a hole in the ground. Needless to say, the left-wing looneys over at Think Progress(trackback) seem to have other ideas. Their article states: Actually, “all of the recent science†— without exception — accepts that global warming is real and caused by humans. The IPCC didn’t involve “one scientist.†It involved thousands of scientists from over 120 countries, including so-called “climate skeptics†and industry representatives. The National Academy of Sciences recently concluded that the one study singled out by Inhofe for criticism, which was authored by Michael Mann, “has subsequently been supported by an array of evidence.†[...]
July 22nd, 2006 at 9:43 amWas Inhofe born stupid, or did he have to work at it?
Comment by Ho Chi Minh
Yes, and yes.
July 22nd, 2006 at 10:30 amHere’s an exhaustive review of the history of climate science, with many links to references.
http://www.aip.org/history/climate/co2.htm
Two summary paragraphs
July 22nd, 2006 at 11:03 am
More on Craig Idso and the Center for the Study of Carbon Dioxide and Global Change, which has received over $90,000 in funding from Exxon since 1998:
source: ExxonSecrets
July 22nd, 2006 at 11:17 amhttp://www.exxonsecrets.org/
Your headline is misleading.
It suggests that “crap” was Inhofe’s word, when it was actually Glenn Beck’s word.
July 22nd, 2006 at 11:57 amtesting
July 22nd, 2006 at 12:00 pmAnother example of the result of the crooked voting machines courtesy of the Republican Party. These neocons could not win in a fair election. It’s time for paper ballots and supervised elections.
July 22nd, 2006 at 12:38 pmOnly a Republican can be this unbelievably dumb.
July 22nd, 2006 at 1:41 pm[...] Congruent to the ecological perspective, I would also add that this is very much a political film. Al Gore clearly states the scientific evidence that proves the ongoing trend of global warming, and the impact it’s having – and will continue to have – on the planet. However, he also highlights the political hurdles that stand in the way of making these environmental issues a top priority of the US government. What I found even more startling (if not predicable), was how various lobby-groups and corporations manipulate political leaders and the mass-media to maintain their interests against improving environmental legislation. For instance, Senator James Infole recently went on the record saying Gore Is Full of Crap, but upon further investigation, you’ll notice Mr. Infole’s top campaign contributors have an interest in keeping things the way they are. But is that really surprising? [...]
July 22nd, 2006 at 2:55 pmThis has been an enjoyable 20 min. Very contentious, yet rather civil, debate on a subject so important that it has no contemporary peer. There’s only one planet for us to live on and as luck would have it, this place has every thing we need to be happy, fat, and well-educated. Why take the chance that a few well paid industry scientists have it right and the bulk of the real scientific community has it wrong? What is the worst case scenario that would happen when either argument prevailed? We should err on the side of caution on this one. I’m in Portland, OR and it was 105 yesterday. I don’t offer that fact as proof of anything, but DAMN!!
July 22nd, 2006 at 4:49 pmDave > Portland is never hot like that > always cool and rainy, so that is a bad omen!
July 22nd, 2006 at 4:52 pmActually Jay, our average mean temperature here is a little over 70. Yeah it rains a lot during the winter and spring, but everything stays green and lush because of it. Except my neighbors lawn of course. I live in an absolute paradise, 70 miles from one of the most beautifull coastlines in the world, 50 miles from Mt. Hood national forest with year round skiing, 2 miles from three major recreation rivers, 100 miles from the “high desert” area of central Oregon and countless lakes of unimaginable spendor. We have hundreds of campground areas for residents and visitors alike. Please come and visit, we need the cash.
July 22nd, 2006 at 5:31 pmINHOFE — “Well, one thing they forgot to do is put in the medieval warming period, which was from about 900 to 1400 A.D., when it was warmer then than it is now.”
Ok. Well, one thing INHOFE forgot to put in, is the INCONVENIENT FACT that there were also about 1300% less humans living on this planet during the medieval period (I used the year 1200A.D. when the est. global population was appx. 450,000,000). So even if his claim about the global temp. during that period is correct, so what? I don’t need a weatherman to tell me it’s raining outside and man, in the world I live in it’s pouring outside. And Inhofe also forgot to factor in the massive pollutants, toxic emissions, leaching landfills, ginormous waste of non-renewable resources, etc, ad nauseum, that we ‘modern civilized’ folks plow through daily. Do I really need to go on? What the hell does he and other nmiscreants like him, have against the common sense of considering the benefits to all life on our beautiful planet, from the use of less resources and the spewage of less pollutants than are necessary? Doesn’t he have children? Don’t his children have children? Jesus, what a selfish evil moron.
July 22nd, 2006 at 5:42 pmJames, your post has struck a chord with me because I look at everything through the eyes of my grandchildren. I need to make the correct decisions on their behalf. What else matters?
July 22nd, 2006 at 5:55 pmAll the problems we are facing are exacerbated by the fact that there are too many people on this planet. The answer is not to kill those that are here but to have fewer children, better education and some attempt at some sort of fairness of distribution of resources. Instead we have governments that make most their money and derive most their power through sale of weapons and the theft of resources.
July 22nd, 2006 at 6:07 pmIn 1960 there were 160 million people in the United States , today there are 300 million. In 40 years the population will hit around 600 million. What will the quality of life be then? Why doesn’t anyone in power talk about the underlying cause of scarcity of resources. TOO MANY PEOPLE?
Excellent point Melissa. We have real problems on planet earth that need an adult conversation. Can we start to have it? If the stupid continue to prevail in these arguments, then the rest of us are screwed.
July 22nd, 2006 at 6:18 pmMelissa > Dick Cheney wrote a paper on population control once > he said there are too many poor people, so he insinuated that millions have to killed off, and his preferred method of doing this > WARS! So anyway the rich elite will never allow our population to double to 600 million!
July 22nd, 2006 at 8:41 pm#240> Regarding the rapture and physical resurrection, somewhere I read once that almost everyone alive shares atoms and molecules with people from roman times and before and after.
So at the rapture who gets the o2 atom…me or Julius C?
July 22nd, 2006 at 9:07 pm[...] Update: Need more nutty Republicans? Here’s another one. And you should Google the OTHER OK Senator, Dr. Tom Coburn if you don’t think these people have a reality problem. [...]
July 22nd, 2006 at 11:48 pm#240 – Dixie,
July 23rd, 2006 at 2:37 amYes I agree that any ‘Apocalypse Now’ adherent buying food, would be some sort of ‘long term commitment’. However it’s not clear to me where the “end times crap” is that you think I tossed in to my comments. And what the heck are you are talking about with that “blatocyst” reference. Maybe I don’t get out enough, but all of that end times hooey is far removed from any point that I was trying to make. Basically I just want our so-called world leaders to exercise common sense in the here & now. Life is fragile enough without making stupid decisions, based on fear, ignorance, misconceptions, bad data, or religious preferences. A better approach in my mind, is to take care of the present time that we live in, and let the future evolve into it’s own proper destiny… not unlike how a good parent would try to raise a child properly. You do your best to teach them how to tell right from wrong, and treat others as they would want to be treated.
#239 – Dave Lessick,
Right on Dave. It’s pretty simple isn’t it? Just put yourself in their shoes and try to see things through their unspoiled eyes. I don’t see how anyone can ever forget how scary/or wonderful it can be/or is/or was… being a child. Weren’t we all once upon a time?
But then again, when I hear lunkheads like Inhofe pontificate, I am tempted to believe that it might actually be possible for humans to be born fully formed, with big heads, foul breath, and bad wiring in the engine room.
July 23rd, 2006 at 2:45 am#247 – Dixie blood,
Thanks for the clarification and the apology. I can see your comments in the proper context now, and while no offense was taken, I really do appreciate your willingness to set a perceived wrong right.
I don’t think most of us see enough of that in modern society, and that truly is a shame. :^)
July 23rd, 2006 at 12:05 pm[...] Meanwhile, over on the Global Warming front: Senator James Inhofe (R-OK) (or, perhaps more accurately, “Senator Infohole”) is trying to spread his complete denial about humans’ role in the heating of the planet using outright lies and fabrication. His motivation? Well, one can only assume he’d like to see the entire human race wiped from the face of the planet. Seriously, though, what is the motivation for this kind of behavior? I know there’s the whole “we never, ever, EVER want to regulate business AT ALL, even if they’re using ORPHAN BLOOD to grease industrial machines” aspect, but this is something that may very well kill us all, not just the poor and children without parents. [...]
July 23rd, 2006 at 4:11 pmI look at everything through the eyes of my grandchildren. I need to make the correct decisions on their behalf. What else matters?
Comment by Dave Lessick
July 23rd, 2006 at 5:32 pm———————-
Dave,speaking for myself,and for my grandchildren–well said.
When you state that “‘all of the recent science’ — without exception — accepts that global warming is real and caused by humansâ€, you are simply wrong. Check the following:
http://www.sepp.org/
http://www.oism.org/pproject/
The latter shows thousands (yes really thousands this time) of real scientists with serious concerns about global warming alarmism.
The OISM project is pure crap. I am from west virginia and decided to go through and google every name from WV that was on it. Just reading it I came across several names I knew. One was a high school basketball coach. albiet a very good coach, and now a county commissioner from one biggest coal producing counties in the state. And his wife. There were a couple of “scientist” from WVU but neither would return my call when I asked for comments on why they signed this document. Most of the other names were coal related poeple. I figure they had this petition at a coal conference and had anyone sign it. Out of 100s of signers only a couple could be considered knowledgable of climatology, the rest were just regular folks in the coal industry. And anyway, that petition is really old now. I can’t believe someone is still pulling this one out.
July 23rd, 2006 at 8:43 pmJust wait untill the trolls find out what William F. Buckley (himself) said about their dear leader. The swift boating should start on Faux & Fiends Monday morning.sic intended.
July 23rd, 2006 at 9:46 pmI wonder if people realise that global warming means, mainly, that low temperatures will rise, thus increasing the overall average and deviation from mean temperature? It does not mean that we’ll suffer interminable heatwaves such as is happening in the US at the moment. And by the way, Australia is going through one of its coldest periods for 80-odd years, thus helping keep the ol’ global average in check.
July 24th, 2006 at 8:58 am[...] Much has been made in recent weeks of Sen. James Inhofe’s increasingly unhinged statements on global warming. He’s hired a long-time movement hack, Marc Morano, to attack journalists and scientists that attempt to tell the truth about global warming (without falsehoods as "balance"). Now Inhofe’s out calling Al Gore "full of crap," claiming the IPCC was based on "one scientist," and saying recent science has shown global warming to be a "hoax." [...]
July 25th, 2006 at 11:47 pm[...] Much has been made in recent weeks of Sen. James Inhofe’s increasingly unhinged statements on global warming. He’s hired a long-time movement hack, Marc Morano, to attack journalists and scientists that attempt to tell the truth about global warming (without falsehoods as "balance"). Now Inhofe’s out calling Al Gore "full of crap," claiming the IPCC was based on "one scientist," and saying recent science has shown global warming to be a "hoax." [...]
July 25th, 2006 at 11:47 pmSeems to me that both the Senator and Glenn Beck have the Right Idea about things…
REAL Science backs up everything that Global Warming is NOT !
July 26th, 2006 at 2:52 pmThere are a lot of idiots around. The fact that Senator Inhofe is an idiot is not surprising. The fact that an entire state would elect such a person says mountains about the people of Oklahoma. The Senator reminds me of a Roman senator around 400 A.D. saying it was those damn liberals that keep saying Rome will fall unless it gets its act together.
July 27th, 2006 at 11:03 pmI guess that George Bush is responsible for the extinction of the Wolly Mammoths, thousands of years ago. Wake up – the Earth has been getting warmer for thousands of years!
July 31st, 2006 at 1:27 pmJJ:
If the average temperature of the Earth’s atmosphere has increased by 1% over the past 100 years, how, then, can the recent record high temperatures be explained? Surely 100+ degrees in cities that routinely have highs in the 80s and 90s can’t be blamed squarely on global warming, then, could it? Atmospheric warming on a scale of a 15 degree variance upwards doesn’t happen over the course of one season.
How can the shift in the Gulf Stream be explained?
How can the sun’s current active cycle be dismissed as not having an effect on global temperatures?
August 2nd, 2006 at 4:03 pmCurrent global warming is a proven fact, catastrophic “gw” is not. There have been many periods of “gw” in the past as well as global cooling and there will be many more in the future. What is not a proven fact is that the current period of “gw” is (1) caused by human involvement and (2) that it is anything other than a normal climactic phenomenom. I voted for Gore, but on this issue he is completely clueless!
August 4th, 2006 at 12:16 pmOkay, when do you think Global warming started? Talk to a geologist, it started when the glaciers in the southwest started to melt thousands of years ago. The glaciers in Alaska have retreated from down around New Mexico. It hasn’t happened over night. The dinosaurs were here before the ice age, and they just found a big one a couple years ago in Utah that dwarfed the Tyranasuarus Rex, that means Utah once had a tropical climate, Duh. Why do you thuink they call Greenland, Greenland? Even in the fifth grade back 1960, they new it once had vegitation. Guess what the globe has been warming for centuries! Weather the super volcanos (PBS) or the meteor strikes (PBS) or a combination caused the ice age, it lasted and ended and the Earth is headed back to it’s appropriate temperature for it’s proximity to the sun. The earth will continue to get warmer no matter what we do, unless it is to blast sulfer into the upper atmosphere and shield ourselves from the sun for a while, (Proposed by a scientist, due a web search). Even Stephen Hawking has said we are probably going to be crispy critters eventually. Gore is selling you a bill of goods. He is minimizing the situation.
November 2nd, 2006 at 8:35 pmGlobal Warming is a Hoax
December 7th, 2006 at 9:49 pmAl Gore isn’t he the guy who invented the internet? He is just trying to keep himself in the spotlight and be relavent in some way. He should stop whinning and face the fact that he LOST the election. You will never, ever, ever, be elected president. So go crawl off to the corner and suck your thumb, you little BABY!
December 14th, 2006 at 12:22 pmHi i’m brittany, you may not know me but i’m planning to become the next woman president in my generation.I’m guessing that all of you have heard about the inconveinent truth, which i have in my junior high school in tomball, tx. after the movie i was very astonished. AL GORE IS FULL OF CRAP! And to only get someone’s attention! The librals tell us to take god out of our money, to take god out of the pledge we intend to promise to brake no vowel. For god is what held our nation together that faith for at least 200-years. if they intend on taking god out of the schools or any religion for that matter then take your stupid, unmeaningful, full of crap,! OUT OF OUR SCHOOLS!MY friends worry at least everyday already about what’s going on at home, and you stupid DEMOCRATS, yes i said democrats!Don’t need to pile up more bull in thier and my lives! ever since that stupid video came out, my friends ask me, ME! are we gonna die? Try asking that to the man who invented the internent! HAH! get a grip al gore and go home!
YOUR PIST OFF NEXT PRESIDENT OF MY GENERATION, BRITTANY
December 17th, 2006 at 8:22 ambrittany i hope your not our next president if you cant even spell
January 17th, 2007 at 4:23 pmPost #248 says it all. You g.w.ers who believe this is man-made are lemmings!
January 20th, 2007 at 9:46 amInstead of all those hackers trying to inundate the main web servers, they should inundate this guy with data on the damage and cost of doing nothing about pollution……….
& while I am only a n0ob, I did fill out a web form with a long explanation to this Senator. (before I wrote this comment)
If you have time to comment and an opinion, direct it to the man himself, or your own senator.
Take action…
Anyone who does not believe we are having an affect should lock themselves in a garage and start the car. If they are still alive after 24 hours I might start to listen to them.
Better yet move next to and raise your children by a chemical plant if you don’t believe that we are causing damage.
Winston Churchill once said “I’d rather be right than be consistent”
So which would you rather be????
All of you who don’t see the connection are too lazy, ignorant, and scared to change……Fine just get out of the way and let the Americans who do care and are willing begin to clean up the mess your making in the name of comfort and Capitolism.
February 9th, 2007 at 2:23 amIf he’s wrong about Al Gore lying, answer me this – where is the hard, scientific proof that we’re warming up? Please, I’d love to hear it. The fact of the matter is, greenhouse gases are not causing the planet to warm up. The planet is cooling, as proven by NASA satellites time and time again, by about .038 Celsius annually. Cooling and warming are obviously not the same thing, quite the opposite. So tell me, how can the planet be warming when it’s cooling off?
Greenhouse emission limitations would be in effect for large nations, correct me if I’m wrong. By large, I mean prosperous, “rich” nations. Meanwhile, the small, poorer countries would have no such limits. Wouldn’t that just mean corporations would move to those poorer countries, thus removing their production limitations, in turn, making those poor countries not so poor and taking money from the US?
There is a political and financial agenda to the entire global warming hoax. If you can explain why the polar regions were warmer in the early 1900s than they are now, and the bears are still alive and well, then I’d be happy to take anything you say and think of anything but a load of crap. But til that day comes, the “truth” really is inconvenient. Truth is, you’re all full of it.
February 19th, 2007 at 11:15 amWhile both sides have good facts backing them up (I personally think that Gore has issues {not full of crfap}) Flatulence has the same effect as gasses, and the farts of bugs do more then we humans are. In fact, if we want to keep our so called hockey stick temp straight, we should kill anything that emits gasses. I hope bush wasn’t wasted those nukes yet.
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