Snow: ‘Nobody Has Been More Diplomatically Active Than We Have’ On The Middle East Peace Process
Snow: ‘Nobody Has Been More Diplomatically Active Than We Have’ On The Middle East Peace Process
This morning on the Today Show, White House Press Secretary Tony Snow argued that “nobody has been more diplomatically active than we have” in the Middle East, citing all the phone calls White House officials have made in recent days:
Real diplomacy requires more than just phone calls. Secretary of State Henry Kissinger famously went to the region and used “shuttle diplomacy” — meeting repeatedly with each party — to negotiate “disengagement agreements between Israel, Syria, and Egypt” following the 1973 Yom Kippur War. Similarly, in 1996, Secretary of State Warren Christopher spent “seven days shuttling between Damascus and Jerusalem” and successfully negotiated a “truce between Israel and Hezbollah guerrillas.” President Bill Clinton visited Israel in the midst of the 1996 terrorist attacks by Hamas to show U.S. support.
In contrast, the Bush administration has taken a “hands off approach,” and has derided diplomatic efforts as “naive and ineffectual.” Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice will finally visit the region next week, but has rejected calls to press for a cease-fire.
Full transcript below:
MATT LAUER: Alright, let’s talk about the Secretary of State. She’s going to travel to the region next week. Critics say it’s too little too late, what’s your response?
TONY SNOW: The critics got it wrong. The United States has been very actively engaged on the diplomatic front ever since the beginning of this. Secretary Rice has spoken repeatedly with leaders throughout the region. The President has been picking leaders and speaking with leaders who are not only in the neighborhood, but in the position to provide leverage and influence over the governments who are chiefly responsible for supporting Hezbollah, that would be Iran and Syria. He’s spoken with the King of Saudi Arabia, he’s spoken with the King of Jordan, he’s spoken with the President of Egypt, he’s spoken with the prime minister of Turkey. Every day the departments of state and defense are on the phone with colleagues throughout the region, every day the national security advisor.
So what I’m saying here is that people are talking about too little too late in diplomacy, they may not be keeping the scorecard. But the fact is, nobody has been more diplomatically active than we have.
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Unreal...
Do the White House staffers have parties where they smoke lots of weed and try to think up more and more outrageous lies to sell to the American public???
July 21st, 2006 at 4:28 pmI think they are more cocaine sorts then we weed. that coupled with delusions of adequacy has developed into a wonderful mess.
July 21st, 2006 at 4:32 pmI think Snow's first response is to always deny -
"Mr. Snow, it has been said that you are a heterosexual white male. Is that true?"
July 21st, 2006 at 4:34 pm"Absolutely not. You will find that I have always been an african-american lesbian woman."
Maybe our bombs and missiles have had "diplomatic" messages attached that read:
PLEASE SURRENDER
July 21st, 2006 at 4:36 pmIN PEACE NOW
UNLESS YOU'RE A
TERRORIST, THEN
IF YOUR NOT CRITICALLY
WOUNDED, PROCEED
TO THE NEAREST
DETENTION CENTER
THANK YOU FOR
YOUR ATTENTION
TO THIS MATTER.
"But the fact is, nobody has been more diplomatically active than we have." -Tonier SnowUs.
If you define diplomacy as lying then you are correct Tonier. No administration on earth as ever lied to and mislead the world like GW Botch and his fascist puppet masters!!
July 21st, 2006 at 4:39 pmDid you ever get the feeling that this administration is using George Orwell's 1984 as an instruction manual?
All kidding aside, everyone needs to go find their old, dog-eared copies of 1984 and read them again. Obviously, it failed to make a sufficient impression the first time.
July 21st, 2006 at 4:39 pmYou forgot to add jewish toonguy.
It should read african-american jewish lesbian woman.
July 21st, 2006 at 4:40 pmWhite is Black and Black is White; 2+2=5
July 21st, 2006 at 4:40 pm
July 21st, 2006 at 4:45 pmWAR IS PEACE
FREEDOM IS SLAVERY
IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH
Tony Snow could sell cigarettes to lung cancer victims.
July 21st, 2006 at 4:47 pmWell the whole Iraq invasion was peaceful right???
July 21st, 2006 at 4:50 pmI feel like I'm Like I'm Alice In Wonderland looking thru the mirror ,going down a rabbit hole . This country I'm deeply ashamed of and congress supporting an illegial invasion of Lebanon by Israel ,what The hell is happening.......
July 21st, 2006 at 4:51 pmReal diplomacy requires more than just phone calls.
Yeah, it also requires "feeling like" telling Kofi to make phone calls.
July 21st, 2006 at 4:52 pmDo you know how many phone calls it takes to block a cease-fire when every body except the U.S. and Israel want one? That a lot of work. That hard work. Hard work.
We're active, diplomatically, in the Middle East. Speakin' of middle, did y'all see that pig? Now that's what I'm talkin' about...diplomacy, sittin' down and eating wild pig. And I proved I can do two things at once...to the whole world. Y'all saw me eatin' and talkin' at the same time, didn't ya? That's hard work. Glad it wasn't a pretzel, though.
Yeah, and I was talkin' to Tony 'bout the Middle East. You know, they don't eat pigs over there. Maybe that's their problem, never had a good rack of ribs. Speakin' of ribs, did ya'll get a look at that German ladies face when I tried to make nice with a good ole fashioned Texas style neck rub? Man, she needs to lighten up.
Which brings us to Israel. I told them to lighten up. But hey, they got a right to defend themselves against the terrorists. Like we did after 9/11. We took it straight to the terrorists responsible and hit them with shawk and awl. Take that Saddam! Mission Accomplished! yessiree.
And that's active diplomacy, Texas style. Next question?
July 21st, 2006 at 4:52 pmBri n F
don't forget bring 'em on
July 21st, 2006 at 4:55 pmThe Grand Experiment is underway.
And the Democrats are 100% on board.
Good Luck!
Hope you like Jesus! Hope you like the Total Information Awareness program!
Get ready for the rest of your life!
Vote Independent. Vote for Moral Foreign Policy.
July 21st, 2006 at 4:57 pmI'm sending a request to the WH to quantify this.
July 21st, 2006 at 4:58 pmin case you missed it:
And the Democrats are 100% on board.
July 21st, 2006 at 4:58 pmAnd the Democrats are 100% on board.
And the Democrats are 100% on board.
Read Tony's Comments and think Iraq. With the exception of the reference to Hezbalah, that is just the simplest boiler plate, empty fact, party line, spew I have now come to expect. Whomever asks him questions should be ready to ask 3-4 more exact questions as follow up just to drill his ass.He is insulting to his duty as a public official by the way in which he berates critical thinking as immature and boorish. His sarcasm is befitting a surly 11 year old. From the top down, I'd say The President probably actually admires him. Pathetic waste of taxpayer dollars the lot of them all.
July 21st, 2006 at 4:59 pmJesus I can smell the stink off Snow\'s bull all the way out here in CA....
July 21st, 2006 at 4:59 pmOh, yes, by all means bring 'em on! Ya know, that's what I kept sayin' 'bout them ribs, too! Bring 'em on!
By the way, 'yall know I sent Condi over there so she can not talk to the Hezbollians and the Syrians and the Iranians, didn't ya? Now that's diplomacy inaction!
Bring 'em on!!!
[off mike] ya know this president thing is kinda fun...heck...I'm kinda likin' bein' a War-Time President. The Commander In Chief. The Big Guy. The Head Hancho. Numero you-Know. Shit, I'm the deciderer...maybe I'll jus' decide I don' wanna give it up after oh-eight. What's Congress gonna do, evict me?
July 21st, 2006 at 5:02 pmWhat's with the grimmace Snow? Gotta go real bad? the brown turtle poking his head out ?
July 21st, 2006 at 5:05 pm[...] Snow: ‘Nobody Has Been More Diplomatically Active Than We Have’ On The Middle East Peace Process [...]
July 21st, 2006 at 5:07 pmI was wondering if anyone here has the leader of Hezbullah number. I men if all we need to do is call and he will stop the fighting, why doesn’t someone here make the first step? Sounds simple enough, we just make a couple of calls have Mullah Al Idiot admit it was a big misunderstanding and viola’ we will be at peace by Sunday morning. Gosh what will the Islamofacists do after they have proclaimed a lasting peace with Israel this time? If history is a clue I guess they will:
-Stockpile weapons IN PLAIN SIGHT of the un outposts
-Train people on the construction and use of short range rockets
-Build tunnel into the evil Zionist lair (to ferment terror)
-Increase diplomatic and religious ties to Iran
Oh yes peace is just a phone call away! Be safe the un is on the job!
July 21st, 2006 at 5:08 pmOkay ... should be 2 + 2 =5.
Me and math don't get along. :-)
July 21st, 2006 at 5:09 pmEd Schultz
just aired footage of Senator Dodd exclaiming the Bush gov't
told him not to speak with Lebanon when he went there in April.
July 21st, 2006 at 5:10 pmDid you ever get the feeling that this administration is using George Orwell’s 1984 as an instruction manual?
The Brave New World is another folks might wanna drag out and read,
July 21st, 2006 at 5:15 pmWhat’s with the grimmace Snow? Gotta go real bad? the brown turtle poking his head out ?
Comment by ? — July 21, 2006 @ 5:05 pm
Milton Friedman!!! I know thats you! metaphor stealer! =)
July 21st, 2006 at 5:17 pmComment by -Aj — July 21, 2006 @ 5:15 pm
No, they think they can end terrorism militarily. And by using the Total Information Awareness program to find terrorists.
Vote Independent. Vote for Moral Foreign Policy.
July 21st, 2006 at 5:17 pmAnimal Farm would be a good one to cover as well.
July 21st, 2006 at 5:18 pmNo one has been as dis-engaged in the Palestinian-Israeli conflict as these guys....
July 21st, 2006 at 5:20 pmTry "It Can't Happen Here" by Sinclair Lewis
July 21st, 2006 at 5:21 pmWell I gotta go, friends.
It should scare your pants off that there is no anti war representation on the Hill.
Your real enemies are the Democrats.
There is absolutely NO DOUBT ABOUT IT.
Have a good weekend. Stay alive. Pray or hope for peace.
Vote Independent. Vote for Moral Foreign Policy.
July 21st, 2006 at 5:24 pmTony Snowjob forgot the tell the press about the Bush/Cheney plan. Wayne Madsen has put it on his web site as follows:
July 21, 2006 -- Informed sources have told WMR that arch-neocon Michael Ledeen, who acts as an unofficial foreign policy adviser to Karl Rove, was at the White House yesterday with a group of Iranian opposition figures. Among the topics discussed was a promised $25 million grant by the Bush administration to the Iranian insurgents. The money is to be used to plant Desert Storm-vintage biological and chemical weapons shells, confiscated by U.S. forces in Iraq, on the Iranian side of the Iraqi border. The weapons will be used as "proof" of Iran's plan to "attack" U.S. troops in Iraq. That will be used to justify, ex post facto, the coming U.S. attack on Iran. Our sources report that George W. Bush dropped by the White House meeting to offer his support to the Iranian opposition operatives.
Now that's the plan watch for the media to say how shocked the Administration was to find these weapons and that what they said was right thereby the US will attack Iran and Syria like we invaded Iraq based on a lie. If it worked once it will work again and Americans will find out later that Bush lied again.
July 21st, 2006 at 5:25 pmI think Snow’s first response is to always deny -
==
Same here, also he seems to do the Rumsfeldian circuitous method of neo-speak
“Mr. Snow, it has been said that you are a heterosexual white male. Is that true?â€
“Absolutely not. You will find that I have always been an african-american lesbian woman.â€
“Mr. Snow, it has been said that you said you are an african-american lesbian woman. is that true?â€
July 21st, 2006 at 5:26 pm“Absolutely not. You will find that I have always been a heterosexual white male"
Nobody's been more diplomatically active
We've just gotten to the point with these pinheads that they just saw anything that comes to mind whether it is even remotely true or not.
July 21st, 2006 at 5:30 pmBush can't even spell diplomacy, Condi's going to the Middle East by way of Paris to buy shoes -NEXT WEEK. So Tony tell me who and what SPECIFICALLY you've done.
I wouldn't imagine he'd including the Carter presidency in his "history" lesson. Carter stayed locked up with Sadat and Begin for 14 days at Camp David. THAT is what I call "diplomatically active."
July 21st, 2006 at 5:47 pmHey, why the long face Tony?
July 21st, 2006 at 5:48 pmSpeaking of fantasy, Paul Krugman in "The Price of Fantasy". talks about, well, the price of fantasy, a price that neocons don't seemingly have to pay.
July 21st, 2006 at 5:49 pmhttp://reactor-core.org/cant-happen.html
hard to find free online versions of this book..
Here's one for "It Cant Happen Here" by Sinclair Lewis.
I hand't read it before, thanks for the post nostrafarius
July 21st, 2006 at 5:55 pmI got sum readin to do =c]
Snow's remarks simply demonstrate how the administration is tone deaf with regards to diplomacy. What this administration sees as diplomacy is seen as an expansion of the neoconservative template for foreign policy.
Read an analysis that explains the reasons there must soon be a shift towards real diplomacy in U.S. foreign policy strategy...here:
http://www.thoughttheater.com
July 21st, 2006 at 6:08 pm#24 Dear Retired Republican Soldier (the title alone is obnoxious) welcome to the new world of disorder, chaos, and absurd flags, us young guys think faster than you now, give up! I wish I had your number you numbskull!
July 21st, 2006 at 6:10 pmyou're doin a heckuvah job tony!
jackass.
July 21st, 2006 at 6:10 pmcan't decide whether Tony Snow looks more like a grown-up Jay North of "Dennis the Menace" or Herman Munster,
July 21st, 2006 at 6:13 pm#43 that's it! He's Herman Munster...excellent post
July 21st, 2006 at 6:17 pmThe Times op-ed page is quite informative today. It clarifies on some levels the motives of all involved in the mess in the Middle East. And if you read between the lines a bit, you can even glean something from Freidman's column. It especially shows how the United States has painted itself into a serious predicament.
July 21st, 2006 at 6:23 pmwatch Tony Snow's circuits start to smoke and blow sometime soon on a screen near you
July 21st, 2006 at 6:25 pmThis reminds me of a scene in the movie "Airplane" when Leslie Nielson's character is doing the Pinnochio with his nose while lying to the passengers.
This would be funny if not for the disastrous global consequences.
July 21st, 2006 at 6:38 pmThis reminds me of a scene in the movie "Airplane" when Leslie Nielson's character is doing the Pinnochio with his nose while lying to the passengers.
This would be funny if not for the disastrous global consequences.
July 21st, 2006 at 6:38 pmI am spending a lot less time commenting on these blogs as I have realized the world is going to shit and I should spend more time with my family. Arguing with people doesn't seem to do shit.
July 21st, 2006 at 6:40 pmSorry about the double post, nerves you know...
July 21st, 2006 at 6:41 pmMATT LIAR sure loves to kiss up to those lies.
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July 21st, 2006 at 6:41 pmIsraeli neocons are mass murderers...
...Snowjob is right...
...Bushiva and L'il Dick have been controlling the murderous bombings and inhumane Israeli actions in Lebanon...
...may all of the houses that voted for the antichrist ticket of Bushiva/L'il Dick/Ehud all suffer poverty, disease, tragedy, and disaster of biblical proportions...
...their Karma deserves it...
...a curse on ALL Bushites and supporters of the mass murderering, TREASONOUS, lying, thieving, cowardly reich wing conservative/neocons...
Israel is sealing its fate, and the U.S.' is inextricably tied to the Israeli Titanic...
...After this uncivilized show of force, the world will no longer look upon Israel with the post-holocaust sympathy ever again...
July 21st, 2006 at 6:49 pmSnowjob is a dead man...
...I see recurring cancer in his future very soon...
July 21st, 2006 at 6:50 pmListening to Tony Snow is like listening to Baghdad Bob.
July 21st, 2006 at 6:56 pmYou may also enjoy "Ape and Essence" by Aldous Huxley
July 21st, 2006 at 7:14 pmMaybe someone should ask Snowjob if...
...Bushiva STILL stands by his oft spouted declaration that...
..."Democracies don't attack democracies"....
...and watch him eat sh*t...
...again...
...this TREASONOUS al Cracker White House must really like...
...eating sh*t...
July 21st, 2006 at 7:23 pmWow. Unbelievable....this entire stink is because the US deep sixed the negotiations started with the Clinton Administration. I've given up even trying to understand the White House or their allies
July 21st, 2006 at 8:06 pm54:
:-D
July 21st, 2006 at 8:08 pmmy name is tony and I never tell the truth
July 21st, 2006 at 8:11 pmAnd in the meantime, more nasty revelations from Iraq:
Four U.S. soldiers accused of murdering suspected insurgents during a raid in Iraq said they were under orders to "kill all military age males," according to sworn statements obtained by The Associated Press.(...)
July 21st, 2006 at 8:27 pm"The ROE (rule of engagement) was to kill all military age males on Objective Murray," Staff Sgt. Raymond L. Girouard told investigators, referring to the target by its code name.
Soldiers Say Ordered to Kill Young Men
What a master bullshitter!
July 21st, 2006 at 8:29 pmWow. He's really quite full of the ol' shit.
July 21st, 2006 at 8:34 pmListen--Clinton did a commendable job being engaged in the Middle East in the 1990s, but the fact of the matter is that Clinton presided over a very different period in the Middle East. By the time Clinton left office in January 2001, the Middle East had seen four months of heavy violence and the peace process was dead. There was really no chance of getting back to the table--Arafat had proven that he was unwilling to deliver a final settlement because it would put his life at risk, and Israelis were slapping themselves for having trusted Arafat enough to recognize and arm him. Comparing Clinton's active diplomacy to Bush's is really comparing apples and oranges. It's much easier to mediate a conflict when both sides are presumably working towards the same goal than when both sides have lost all faith in each other. Give Bush crap for his bungling of Iraq and how he has messed up the Greater Middle East. But his policy on the Israeli-Arab conflict has basically mirrored that of past presidents, in understanding that before there can be negotiations, there has to be a cessation of violence.
July 21st, 2006 at 8:39 pmAmanda astutely notes, "Real diplomacy requires more than just phone calls. Secretary of State Henry Kissinger famously went to the region and used “shuttle diplomacy†— meeting repeatedly with each party — to negotiate “disengagement agreements between Israel, Syria, and Egypt†following the 1973 Yom Kippur War."
July 21st, 2006 at 8:39 pm*******But doesn't that burn a ton of fuel (environmentally sensitive progs would be up in arms - pun intended) I assume the administration would hold discussions with the Lebanese Prime Minister (since their President vows the Lebanese Army will fight with Hezbollah) and Israel. The Lying Assasain Assad would be a waste of time. Would progs take the Noam Chomsky's Hezbollah Greatest Hits tour and negotiate with terrorists?
PNAC is not about diplomacy
July 21st, 2006 at 8:41 pmGWB already tried phoning in the Iraq War, and we see how well that's working, i.e. Civil War. To use one of GWB's favorite phrases, let's learn the lessons of the war on terra, and start having some major face time.
Oh, um Israel et al? Sorry that face has to belong to Condi Rice. She's not interested in doing shit, so you might just try talking to each other - quietly.
July 21st, 2006 at 9:14 pmSnowflake looks like he just farted in an elevator...
July 21st, 2006 at 9:15 pmSyria has at least one division poised on the border, and some predict an Israeli invasion could trigger one from Syria as well. A look at the map shows that reasoning to be quite valid. Syria at one point had friends all around and its pick of resupply routes, but no longer. Turkey, a member of NATO and a putative US ally, lies to the north, along with a lot of ethnic Kurds that do not much like the Assad regime. Jordan, another US ally, lies to the south, along with Israel. To the east used to be an Iraq led by their Ba'athist cousins, but now has an American military contingent of 135,000 battle-hardened troops. Their only outlet comes through Lebanon to the Mediterranean, and if Israel takes control, the Syrians are bottled up, and they know it.
This war will almost certainly happen at some point, absent multiple coups in Syria and Iran, and it might be better to have it now, rather than when Iran has nukes. Everyone knows that Damascus and Teheran sponsors global Islamofascist terror, and we can't stop it unless we stop them both. It still would be preferable to get the nations of the world to agree to isolate both nations and bring terrorism to an end peacefully -- but the Europeans still believe in appeasement, and Russia and China want to play superpower games instead.
July 21st, 2006 at 9:20 pmWhat price Peace?
What cost War?
How much longer will this killing go on?
How many children more?
How many bombs will it take ‘till we say
Not one bomb more?
Buildings in ruins,
Villages shattered,
Killing and maiming,
Like nothing mattered.
Like no life mattered.
Bricks and mortar,
Oak and stones,
Stricken by mortars,
Broken bones.
Lifeless eyes,
Everyone dies,
In the ruins
Of their homes.
And when the battle’s over
There’s the silence of the wind,
And peace.
And when the battle’s over
There’ll be peace.
But no one left to know?
We’ll rest,
In peace.
July 21st, 2006 at 9:27 pmAmen, but at least we tried!
July 21st, 2006 at 9:29 pmI wish Ol' Snowjob would share his stash of pot with me, 'cuz my hallucinations just aren't that good...
What on Earth has the Bush Junta done to dampen down this crisis? What have they done to diffuse tensions? What have they done to "stop this shit"!?
July 21st, 2006 at 9:33 pmIts pretty easy to understand, if you'd just take your head out of your ^^^^.
July 21st, 2006 at 9:35 pmBy tomorrow morning, we should know whether Assad was bluffing or not. We know the Israelis aren't any longer.
July 21st, 2006 at 9:36 pmIn peace.
Comment by Briseadh na Faire
Beautiful/horrible
July 21st, 2006 at 9:42 pmThere's that islamofascist word again,...............BOOO! hahahahhaahhaahhahahahahahahadouchebag, stock up on your duct tape grandpa.
July 21st, 2006 at 9:43 pmWorks for me, I think you should call your grandpa, he probally knows more than you.
July 21st, 2006 at 9:44 pm"Nobody" is right. If 'nobody' was a person, or another government, they would be doing more, right now, than BushCo has been doing, diplomatically. By dragging their heels, they are showing the entire world that they will never have any interest in peace in the Middle East. Aside from the other members of the U.N. Security Council sending their own troops to restrain Israel, allowing for a cooling off period, and forcing Israel to address the issues that have contributed to the current situation, such as holding more than 3,000 Palestinian women and children behind bars, without charges. Israel has done it's fair share of contributing to the problems in the Middle East, and for any resolution to have any hope of succeeding, ALL sides must accept responsibility for their actions. Blame placing and finger pointing, (sound familiar?) does nothing but piss people off. So, just drop it and focus on fixing it.
July 21st, 2006 at 9:55 pmOh wow, Cyra, stop blameing and finger pointing... Your posting numbers that have no relevence to anything. Just (finger pointing) I imagine, or was it?
July 21st, 2006 at 9:59 pmOK, my parents said I had to go to bed, so I guess, looking at he preposts, all you genuises will all come out with "some grand plan' I'll come back tomorrow to see.
July 21st, 2006 at 10:10 pmIs Bush "talking" to world leaders supposed to make us feel better? We all know how effective our Communicator in Chief is.
July 21st, 2006 at 10:13 pm#88 I hear 50 grand.
July 21st, 2006 at 10:31 pmBy the way, look at that picture of Snow. Who wouldn't want to punch him straight in the nose?
July 21st, 2006 at 10:48 pmman. isn't it time the angry citizens stormed the palace and killed the lying bastards?
July 21st, 2006 at 10:51 pmI'm already starting to miss Scott.
July 21st, 2006 at 11:22 pmOh, come on AP, they are doing their best. They just aren't very bright.
July 21st, 2006 at 11:27 pm" Snow: ‘Nobody Has Been More Diplomatically Active Than We Have’ On The Middle East Peace Process"
PLEASE...................................WHAT A JOKE!
July 21st, 2006 at 11:34 pmCAPTION CONTEST:
The Mask III!!! With Tony Snow!!!
July 22nd, 2006 at 12:03 amAll kidding aside, everyone needs to go find their old, dog-eared copies of 1984 and read them again. Obviously, it failed to make a sufficient impression the first time.
Comment by TripMaster Monkey — July 21, 2006 @ 4:39 pm
Ironically, it was a book critizicing communism.
July 22nd, 2006 at 12:07 amI thought I heard the sno job say at a news confrence 3 days ago that the "white house" had no contact with Israel and they were not going to interfere. Oh I forgot they said they were not in collusion with Israel. Now today it's lots of contact....Is that a " We didn't before we did". Kind of like wearing the celabate rings when one's pregnant......Blessings..Peace Demand it...BnF.. Great poem and terribly sad....
July 22nd, 2006 at 1:14 amMay God bless and protect the troops of Israel as they confront the evil forces of terrorism. No matter some of the domestic political differences between some of the posters here, I think we all share the same hope that Israeli troops will destroy the terrorist savages that present the largest obstacle to peace in the Middle East. May God bless the State of Israel, the United States of America, and those Arab Muslims living in the Middle East who reject terrorism and extremism and who believe in a just peace with Israel.
July 22nd, 2006 at 1:21 amIsrael most likely is going to invade Lebanon with tanks and troops on Sunday or Monday of next week! Thousands of Lebanese most likely will be slaughtered by the Israelis!
July 22nd, 2006 at 1:40 amExley - DO NOT PRETEND TO SPEAK FOR ME TO GOD.
July 22nd, 2006 at 2:03 amThe president has been busy calling leaders in the region. He's been asking them if they know how big their countries were. Then he tells them that it took Putin as long to go home as it took him.
Then he invites them to the ranch for ham sanwiches.
July 22nd, 2006 at 3:51 amAll I can say is what BULLSHIT
July 22nd, 2006 at 5:50 amSnow: ‘Nobody Has Been More Diplomatically Active Than We Have’ On The Middle East Peace Process
Should read
Snow: ‘Everybody Has Been More Diplomatically Active Than We Have’ On The Middle East Peace Process
July 22nd, 2006 at 6:06 am#64 And we wonder why they hate us. A victim surviving this policy should feel compelled to go to the occupier's home country, grab an airliner and smash it into a building there in blind rage.
July 22nd, 2006 at 6:21 amOh man, the bushit coming out of the White House is piling so high that you need wings to stay above it.
July 22nd, 2006 at 7:22 am“nobody has been more diplomatically active than we have†TADA!!
July 22nd, 2006 at 7:32 amAnd now Ladies and Gentlemen for our next trick, we're going to pull a rabbit out of this hat!
Gawd!
This is embarassing. What a bunch of bafoons.
Someone PLEASE!!!
Put them out of their misery. Come to think of it, put us out of this misery.
Humanist, Dave, & others, Need any more proof that we need "regime change" in Amerika? Had enough? We need a revolution to overthrow these souless bastards at any cost. Remeber what Chairman Mao said-- "power comes from the barrel of a gun".Let the revolution begin!!!
July 22nd, 2006 at 7:59 amActive....yeah....diplomatic...no...bloody incompetent, wide eyed-morons who are dazzled by their own fantasies...yeah
July 22nd, 2006 at 8:17 amMay God bless the State of Israel, the United States of America, and those Arab Muslims living in the Middle East who reject terrorism and extremism and who believe in a just peace with Israel.
Comment by Exley — July 22, 2006 @ 1:21 am
Yeah, God has a lot to do with this already. Poor sad fanatic.
July 22nd, 2006 at 8:24 am[...] Think Progress » Snow: ‘Nobody Has Been More Diplomatically Active Than We Have’ On The Middle East Peace Process This morning on the Today Show, White House Press Secretary Tony Snow argued that “nobody has been more diplomatically active than we have†in the Middle East, citing all the phone calls White House officials have made in recent days: [...]
July 22nd, 2006 at 8:27 amIf "nobody has been more diplomatically active" than nobody has been more diplomatically impotent.
July 22nd, 2006 at 8:34 amplunger, any links to support your post?
July 22nd, 2006 at 9:35 am#104 Israel has already accomplished its goal. It has completely compromised the integrity and security of the United States Of America. It is in total control of the US Treasury, Defense Department, Congress - every institution and branch of government.
You have to give the zionists credit for accomplishing such feats. These parasites are expert in sucking the life out of what was once a vibrant, justice seeking country.
July 22nd, 2006 at 9:46 amBaghdad Bob is back in D.C.!!!
July 22nd, 2006 at 9:56 amBlessings to every one this morning, and Peace for our world......Some good posts....
#100 a moment of silence would work better here, thank you very much. Perhaps you hit the wrong button and thought you were on the red state site. Nope. This is Think Progress.
In case you didn't notice Israel droped BOMBS and LEAFLETS telling all of Lebanon to leave and then BOMBED the fleeing buses with innocent men, women and children in them as they were trying to get out......Please stop believing all the reich winged tripe and then repeating it here, we have seen it and heard it already....Backing the war machines and countries that kill for power are not the answer....Israel and our country are wrong...
July 22nd, 2006 at 10:07 amBush and company have the screw for virginity, mass killing for peace, repeat the lies to make them believable mentalety........We are the enemy of the world at the present time. It is our tax dollars and bombs given to Israel that are killing the most . I am ashamed of my country and will not support any of this bushco madness......Please have a nice day, unless you had other plans.....
#100 - God bless the whole world, no exceptions.
July 22nd, 2006 at 10:27 amBriseadh na Faire on the plunger's post:
the condi 'lord jesus' remark link is here...
the delay quote originated in harpers...there is more here:
Briseadh na Faire, i will not vouch for 100% of plunger's post because i am not familiar with all of it, but, i am guessing that if you do some checking, most, if not all of it, is verifiable.
July 22nd, 2006 at 11:46 amSnow fits in nicely with this administration. This latest bamdozzle of a lie makes it is no mystery why this FOX rooted commentator got his job. It gives new and reinforcing meaning to the term "snow-job".
July 22nd, 2006 at 11:50 amIf the far-right religious Taliban in America want to meet Jesus in Heaven, so badly, then they need to get in their cars and run a hose from the exhaust pipe to inside the vehicle! They have no right to end the world for everybody by nuclear war since they hate themselves and their lives here! They can all go drink some Jim Jones Kool-Aid for all I care!
July 22nd, 2006 at 11:53 amwell, jay, i think they all want to go together or something... maybe they just want to see all the graves empty and watch the corpses dig themselves out of their graves and fly to heaven... [come to think of it, that would look rather cool]
July 22nd, 2006 at 11:58 ammr malloy was talking about these crazy bastards last night: the christian zionists...their leader is mentioned in the delay quote above, this hagee nut.
anyway, give this a read, jay...
July 22nd, 2006 at 12:01 pmDiplomatically active, huh? So that's what they call it.
July 22nd, 2006 at 12:04 pmWhat about the newspaper report this morning that the US is expediting arms shipments to Israel for their attacks in Lebanon? How does that differ from Iran sending arms to hezbollah?
We are stalling on diplomacy (let Israel get a good foothold first) and we are not demanding a ceasefire (they can hear our phone calls over the sound of bombs and missiles) but we want the middle East to find peace. Yeah, right.
marie, the difference between the us giving bombs to israel to kill civilians, and iran giving aide to hezbollah is similar to the difference between israel going on 'brief incursions into lebanon' [fox newspeak] and 'hezbollan invasion into israel to kidnap innocent soldiers'...
July 22nd, 2006 at 12:17 pmThanks for the link james risser > remind me never to say a good thing about Rep. Wexler of Florida > he is a Zionist stooge in need of thorizine badly!
July 22nd, 2006 at 12:40 pmOne word sums up Bush and his Administration.......INCOMPETENT.
July 22nd, 2006 at 12:51 pm#127 JR
July 22nd, 2006 at 12:53 pmOf course! Silly me! I didn't see the vast distinction before.. I must watch Fox news more often so I can get the real facts.
yes, when in doubt it is best to get things 'fair and balanced'...best to go to fox or the 700 club to get the 'truth'...
the latter had ann coulter on last night debunking darwinism...i wish i could say i was making that up, but, alas, it is true. darwin was wrong; adam and eve did ride dinosaurs to walmart.
July 22nd, 2006 at 1:22 pm#
One word sums up Bush and his Administration…….INCOMPETENT.
Comment by Darin — July 22, 2006 @ 12:51 pm
No Darin. The more accurate word would be EVIL. For the Christians out there, the accurate term would be ANTICHRIST.
July 22nd, 2006 at 1:42 pmBush to Laura this morning:
"Missionary position accomplished!"
July 22nd, 2006 at 2:07 pmWhaaaaaa.....WHINY, obnoxious progs complain when we "intervene", you whine when we don't. You are NEVER satisfied by anything unless your side had a hand in it. (I would be curious to know which party the whiners from Lebanon were affiliated with and which party the grateful evacuees were from...) Hmmmmm......
July 22nd, 2006 at 2:07 pmMighty moron, I don't see your ass in the army. Put up or shut up.
July 22nd, 2006 at 2:12 pmI see MA listens to the radio leader of the lemmings, Lintball, and parrots his phrasing. Got a cracker to keep it quiet?
July 22nd, 2006 at 2:39 pmMA
July 22nd, 2006 at 3:05 pmIt's my country, I'll whine if I want to, whine if I want to.
Actually, whether BushCo. "intervenes" or doesn't is equally "whineable" because incompetence in governance is present either way and nothing is "winable" for America through BushCo.
By the time Clinton left office in January 2001, the Middle East had seen four months of heavy violence and the peace process was dead. There was really no chance of getting back to the table–Arafat had proven that he was unwilling to deliver a final settlement because it would put his life at risk, and Israelis were slapping themselves for having trusted Arafat enough to recognize and arm him.
Comment by JW #67
JW,
You are part of the problem...
...you are ignorant of the facts, and therefore too naive as to why the ME is in such turmoil at THIS post-Clinton moment...
...after Clinton left office, the Zionists and neocon, TREASONOUS, inbred, criminal Bushite junta sought to undermine everything the Clinton administration had put into place...
...including the (on its way to being successful) road map to ME peace...
...the ignorant TREASONOUS, incompetent Bushites disengaged and dissed Arafat...
...the right wing, mass murdering, al Cracker Jew Sharon dissed the Muslim world by defiling a Muslim shrine, when he entered some sacred Muslim holy site...
...an act that sealed the resurgence of violence between Palestinians and Jews...
...JW, you should know your history...you inbred al Cracker son of a pig...
...before you pontificate on these matters...
...the HISTORY will set your dumb ass free!!!!
July 22nd, 2006 at 3:18 pmthat look on Snow's face .... what a smarmy turd
July 22nd, 2006 at 3:40 pmSnow is a right wing toad and stooge! He is told what to say to the press, even if it is something totally stupid, so he will spew it!
July 22nd, 2006 at 3:46 pmI think we all share the same hope that Israeli troops will destroy the terrorist savages that present the largest obstacle to peace in the Middle East.
Comment by Exley #100
Ex-crement(from Ehud's a*shole),
No we don't all share that dumb a*s hope...
...someof us realize that it is the Israelis who are the "terrorists" and "savages"...
...look at the soldier/combatant to civilian kill ratio between the murderous Israelis and Hezbollah/Palestinians...
...look at the technological, military advantage...
...you right wing al cracker sons of dogs should be afforded the experience of being oppressed and having YOUR national sovereignty, resources and sacred religious sites/ tenets defiled...
...and your families and homes destroyed...
...then perhaps you would see the world thru different eyes...
...but then again you arrogant, murderous, hypocritical al Cracker Zionist/conservative/neocon criminals have no eyes, or souls...
God's curse be upon you all...
July 22nd, 2006 at 4:14 pmWell, PLC, allow me to recognize the fact that progs are EXCELLENT whiners. (I'm looking for something good to say about progs...) But you forgot to mention if the whiners evacuated from Lebanon were progs or Repubs.....
July 22nd, 2006 at 4:20 pmOoooooooo...."big papa" must be serious! He has his postings in bold! Hey, everybody! Listen to him...He's learned to use the bold feature! Heh!
July 22nd, 2006 at 4:32 pmSnow: ‘Nobody Has Been More Diplomatically Active Than We Have’ On The Middle East Peace Process
I suppose that could also mean actively destroying peace in the Middle East - which would then be entirely true...
July 22nd, 2006 at 4:59 pmComment by james risser — July 22, 2006 @ 11:46 am
Thanks James. I'm just a bit swamped with studying for the Bar right now to do much checking...that's why I asked for links... besides, I've asked for links when other posters make unsubstantiated claims, so it's only fair.
Think Peace, it can't hurt, and it just might help.
July 22nd, 2006 at 6:02 pm"Social Dominators believe that a really good skicll to develop is the ability to look someone straight in the face and lie convincingly." John Dean quoting the Authoritarian Spector in his new book Conservatives without Conscience pp. 61-62. I gotta say, Tony Snow is rally good at his job. He sure knows how to keep interviewwers on their heals. Aggread we are talking about a panty waste like Matt lauer, but, nonetheless, we need some more aggressive people on this guys ass. Who's gonna fact check him?
July 22nd, 2006 at 6:40 pmWhen is America going to stop licking Israel's ass? We give the terrorist state of Israel billions of our hard earned tax dollars every year, and what do we get in return? Grief from Arabs and muslims for this utterly senseless and biased support of a bully, warmongering and nation that is always conveniently hiding behind the curtain of "self defense". I really hope that they somehow "get their due" for their crimes against the Lebanese people.
July 22nd, 2006 at 10:31 pmTiredofBush and Fat Daddy - EXCELLENT examples of anti-Jewish bigots.
"Ex-crement(from Ehud’s a*shole), …someof us realize that it is the Israelis who are the “terrorists†and “savagesâ€â€¦ - Fat DAD
"We give the terrorist state of Israel...." - ToB
Shrieks of a "election stolen" (while not defending the right of our democratic ally in the Middle East to defend herself) underscores the hypocrisy of the lunatic left. (Not to be confused with the kindly, but misguided left.)
I certainly HOPE that liberal Jews, who overwhelmingly support the left side of the aisle with their wallets, rethink their contributions. The largest anti-Israel lobby today are progressive political groups.
July 23rd, 2006 at 2:38 pmPost 147 MA > lol you can have every single Jewish voter for all I care > they represent about 1% or less of the US population > take them all if they want to leave the Democrat party!
July 23rd, 2006 at 2:41 pmWhy is it that if anyone dares to criticize Israel, the are immediately branded as "anti-semitic"? Can there be no objective assessment regarding the behavior of this spoiled brat of a country? How many innocent Palestinian and Lebanese citizens will it take to satisfy Israel's seemingly insatiable appetite for blood and war? Whomever believes that the nation of Israel truly desires peace, is either a fool or a liar to himself or both. I can't say how happy I am to be many thousands of miles from these barbarians. My sympathy to those who are not as fortunate.
July 23rd, 2006 at 3:01 pmAs part of their "demand" to end their murderous seige in Lebanon, Israel wants the Lebanese army to surrender their arms and heavy artillery. Is this a joke or what? If Lebanon agrees to such a plan they would have signed their own death warrant as a country, with Israel choosing the time of the execution. Even though the Lebanese army has little chance of inflicting any substantial pain on the instigators, at least they are fighting and valiantly defending their country's honor - something any patriot worth his salt would do.
July 23rd, 2006 at 3:15 pm#148 - Jay - Jews are more than 1% of Dem Party; AND they sure donate ALOT more than 1% of of receipts collected by the Dem Party and candidates. But you knew that...
Dear ToB - What's that old saying - if it walks like a duck? Well you might be the most neighbourly person God ever made - but you sure sound like an anti-Jewish bigot. When you display stupidity - don't be surprised when someone calls you stupid. You refer to a democratic country, which has been repeatedly attacked for 58 years by suicide bombers (al Aqsa Martyrs Brigade, Hamas, Hezbollah, Islamic Jihad, the PLO, etc) as a "terrorist state", and indicate a gross misunderstanding of history and a penchant for gullibility.
YOU are completely wrong about Israel wanting to disarm the Lebanese army - they only wish the Lebanese army was strong enough to destroy Hezbollah. But if the Lebanese army throws in with Hezbollah, Israel will take them on. (Having Hezbollah in Lebanon is like a house infested with cock roaches - they will take over poor Lebanon unless they have an epiphany, mend their ways or are put down.) But to easily illustrate for you the depth of your moral relativism answer the following:
IF Israel were to disarm completely and disband their armed services, do you think Islamic extremists would:
a.) allow Israel to co-exist with them side-by side?
b.) attempt to destroy Israel and "wipe her off the face of the map" ?
IF all terror groups and nation-states who still have a stated goal to wipe out Israel were to completely disarm:
a.) would Israel attempt to wipe them out?
b.) would Israel attempt to live as neighbours?
Untill you answer those questions, I'll continue to consider you an anti-Jewish bigot. Were off to the beach - that should give you plenty of time to "think" of your answer....
July 23rd, 2006 at 4:14 pmTiredofBush and Fat Daddy - EXCELLENT examples of anti-Jewish bigots.
Shrieks of a “election stolen†(while not defending the right of our democratic ally in the Middle East to defend herself) underscores the hypocrisy of the lunatic left
Comment by mighty aphrodite #147
puny bushballickin' hermaphrodite,
There are good Jews and bad Jews...
...it is not bigoted OR antisemitic to hate bad Jews (or al Crackers like yourself)...
...Hezbollah and Hamas are "democratically" elected political entities...
...becaouse your TREASONOUS, mass murdering al Cracker bad Jew controlled gods Bushiva and L'il Dick and their master Ehud...
...can't "control" Hezbollah or Hamas...
...they've decided to DESTROY them...
...this is your Bushite "democracy"!
...a mass murdering, criminal mockery...
...and they and you (the slaves who worship at their altars of blood, crruption and deceit)...
...should ALL be imprisoned, prosecuted, then HANGED...
...after your (and your families') assets have been confiscated and returned to the u.S. treasury and placed in victims' compensation trusts...
...until there is JUSTICE...
...you will know no PEACE!!!!
July 23rd, 2006 at 4:33 pmyou can have every single Jewish voter for all I care > they represent about 1% or less of the US population
Comment by Jay Randal #148
Jay,
This is a lie that has been cultivated over many years...
...many people forget that because of al Cracker antisemitism in the Jim Crow era (and before)...
...many Jews took on Anglo names and identities...
...all one needs to do is to look at the "messengers" in control of the media, the government, and Wall Street...
...there are MANY more Jews than you know about, playing the cards behind the scenes...
...this is why all "MESSENGERS" must be identified...
...then shall you know the agenda...
July 23rd, 2006 at 4:39 pmIF Israel were to disarm completely and disband their armed services,
Comment by mighty aphrodite #151
puny bushasslickin' hermaphrodite,
The hypocrisy of the al Cracker Bushite (that'd be you)...
...is what will be your downfall...
...you talk of DISARMING the Lebanese...
...while screeching that leftists want to shred the second amendment in America...
...you buttfu*k each other with your precious guns...
...and want to murder anyone who dares advocate controlling YOUR right to bear arms...
...while in the same funky breath...
...having the arrogance and audacity to demand the disarming of those who would defend themselves and their sovereign nations...
...this is why you (and your TREASONOUS, dumbass, inbred al Cracker ilk) are despised worldwide...
...and WILL be DESTROYED!!!
July 23rd, 2006 at 4:47 pmMA > lol go move to Israel if you love them so much and take Joe Lieberman with you please!
July 23rd, 2006 at 9:44 pmPat Buchanan slams Israel on attack of Lebanon
This is really emotional, and its from a very conservative American. I was touched.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5jFZDbDyinw
July 23rd, 2006 at 11:16 pmIsrael has show time and again, that it is irresponsible when it is entrusted with the power of heavy arms. So far, despite all the cries that its Arab neighbors want to "wipe Israel from the map", no such advance has been made by any of the countries that Israel is claiming to hold such views. It is Israel that is actively engaged in said action. And even so, given Israel's belligerent and murderous nature, it would be reasonable for these countries to harbor such feelings, as most of their citizens have lost loved-ones at the hand of the bully, Israel. And before anyone gets too twitty, and hurling the tired "anti-semite" slur my way, I say "keep it". I will stand up for oppressed people, regardless of their religious or political beliefs (or no beliefs). This is about the injustice of one group of strong, privileged humans decimating weaker humans. Israel must pay for these crimes against humanity. No more "Peace Process"!
July 24th, 2006 at 10:32 amWell, I suppose it does take a whole lot of diplomatic activity to render enough excuses for so much failure.
July 24th, 2006 at 1:23 pm#156 - "MA > lol go move to Israel if you love them so much and take Joe Lieberman with you please!" - "Comment "by Jay Randal
*****Jay - And give you TWO less reasons to wear your WHITE sheets and hood - I wouldn't think of depriving you!!!
But I DO have something nice to say to you:
I think it is very sweet of you to speak for the congenitally stupid FatDAD - I don't think he has EVER demonstrated the ability to complete an entire sentence - poor dear...
#158 - Bushwacked - I guess the idea of deterrence has NOT beed discussed in your International Relations classes yet. Who do you think Iran would like to try their nuclear "energy" on? WHERE do you think Israel would be without the "power of heavy arms"?
July 24th, 2006 at 1:27 pmFatDAD - Perhaps your envy of the male hamsters "endowment" will be overcome AFTER you reach puberty. (After you master the technique of complete sentence writing, we may be able to move along to something a bit more challenging - say... political argument....)
July 26th, 2006 at 2:33 amHere we go with the "I'm MUCH more intelligent than you" crap!
Let's break this down...
Israel is a pain in the ass to America.
AIPAC lobbies the money whores in congress and they sell out the USA's taxpaying public (isn't this taxation without representation) for the blood money coming from Israel, that (more than likely) is the RE-funneling of US taxpayer monies back into the US! This needs to stop, along with AIPAC getting a free meal ticket and NOT having to register as what it IS, a foreign government agency operating on US soil.
The architects of this "pre-emptive" assault on the middle east were names like Perle, Feith, Kristol, Wolfowitz etc... they sure weren't Smith and Jones, and happen to have dual-Israeli citizenship.
Don't think so?
Douglas Feith has allegedly flown the coop to Israel, where he cannot be extradited back to the USA for questioning concerning his role in the scandals.
The reporting (or so called reporting) of the middle east and their (so-called) "experts" always have names like Indyk, Krauthammer, Kristol (there's THAT name again) and the like......notice a trend. No Smith or Jones here.
Yet merely OBSERVING this fact, gets you labeled in order to silence you, and prevent OBJECTIVE discussion of the GIANT ELEPHANT in the room.
Billions of dollars to Israel and what return do we (the taxpayer) get for our investment?
The middle finger from Israel, hatred from Arabs in the region, endless propaganda on TV, more rhetoric from the "experts" (who happen to be pro-Israeli) the patriot act (a misnomer) the NSA spying on the US citizens, and the AIPAC SPY scandal spying on the USA.
Jack Abramoff, Scooter Libby, and a host of other miseries.
If ISrael were an investment, we would have dumped it years ago for a crap return!
Walt and Mearsheimer published the "Israeli Lobby" paper, and every concerned citizen should read it, and form their own opinions.
The USA needs to get the hell out of the middle east and take care of this mess it has gotten itself in, pronto.
I care about America...and if you live in America you probably should too.
July 30th, 2006 at 1:05 amThere is symbiotic relationship between GOP and corporate media, especially the FOX Network. Existence of both is based on unabashed lies and ugly greed. Both are full of people that are nothing but criminals.
August 5th, 2006 at 11:18 am