Let’s break this down…
Israel is a pain in the ass to America.

AIPAC lobbies the money whores in congress and they sell out the USA’s taxpaying public (isn’t this taxation without representation) for the blood money coming from Israel, that (more than likely) is the RE-funneling of US taxpayer monies back into the US! This needs to stop, along with AIPAC getting a free meal ticket and NOT having to register as what it IS, a foreign government agency operating on US soil.

The architects of this “pre-emptive” assault on the middle east were names like Perle, Feith, Kristol, Wolfowitz etc… they sure weren’t Smith and Jones, and happen to have dual-Israeli citizenship.
Don’t think so?
Douglas Feith has allegedly flown the coop to Israel, where he cannot be extradited back to the USA for questioning concerning his role in the scandals.

The reporting (or so called reporting) of the middle east and their (so-called) “experts” always have names like Indyk, Krauthammer, Kristol (there’s THAT name again) and the like……notice a trend. No Smith or Jones here.

Yet merely OBSERVING this fact, gets you labeled in order to silence you, and prevent OBJECTIVE discussion of the GIANT ELEPHANT in the room.

Billions of dollars to Israel and what return do we (the taxpayer) get for our investment?
The middle finger from Israel, hatred from Arabs in the region, endless propaganda on TV, more rhetoric from the “experts” (who happen to be pro-Israeli) the patriot act (a misnomer) the NSA spying on the US citizens, and the AIPAC SPY scandal spying on the USA.
Jack Abramoff, Scooter Libby, and a host of other miseries.
If ISrael were an investment, we would have dumped it years ago for a crap return!

Walt and Mearsheimer published the “Israeli Lobby” paper, and every concerned citizen should read it, and form their own opinions.

The USA needs to get the hell out of the middle east and take care of this mess it has gotten itself in, pronto.

I care about America…and if you live in America you probably should too.

*****Jay – And give you TWO less reasons to wear your WHITE sheets and hood – I wouldn’t think of depriving you!!!

But I DO have something nice to say to you:
I think it is very sweet of you to speak for the congenitally stupid FatDAD – I don’t think he has EVER demonstrated the ability to complete an entire sentence – poor dear…

#158 – Bushwacked – I guess the idea of deterrence has NOT beed discussed in your International Relations classes yet. Who do you think Iran would like to try their nuclear “energy” on? WHERE do you think Israel would be without the “power of heavy arms”?

This is really emotional, and its from a very conservative American. I was touched.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5jFZDbDyinw

Comment by mighty aphrodite #151

puny bushasslickin’ hermaphrodite,

…and WILL be DESTROYED!!!

Comment by Jay Randal #148

Jay,

…then shall you know the agenda…

Shrieks of a “election stolen” (while not defending the right of our democratic ally in the Middle East to defend herself) underscores the hypocrisy of the lunatic left

Comment by mighty aphrodite #147

puny bushballickin’ hermaphrodite,

…you will know no PEACE!!!!

Dear ToB – What’s that old saying – if it walks like a duck? Well you might be the most neighbourly person God ever made – but you sure sound like an anti-Jewish bigot. When you display stupidity – don’t be surprised when someone calls you stupid. You refer to a democratic country, which has been repeatedly attacked for 58 years by suicide bombers (al Aqsa Martyrs Brigade, Hamas, Hezbollah, Islamic Jihad, the PLO, etc) as a “terrorist state”, and indicate a gross misunderstanding of history and a penchant for gullibility.

YOU are completely wrong about Israel wanting to disarm the Lebanese army – they only wish the Lebanese army was strong enough to destroy Hezbollah. But if the Lebanese army throws in with Hezbollah, Israel will take them on. (Having Hezbollah in Lebanon is like a house infested with cock roaches – they will take over poor Lebanon unless they have an epiphany, mend their ways or are put down.) But to easily illustrate for you the depth of your moral relativism answer the following:

IF Israel were to disarm completely and disband their armed services, do you think Islamic extremists would:
a.) allow Israel to co-exist with them side-by side?
b.) attempt to destroy Israel and “wipe her off the face of the map” ?

IF all terror groups and nation-states who still have a stated goal to wipe out Israel were to completely disarm:
a.) would Israel attempt to wipe them out?
b.) would Israel attempt to live as neighbours?

Untill you answer those questions, I’ll continue to consider you an anti-Jewish bigot. Were off to the beach – that should give you plenty of time to “think” of your answer….

“Ex-crement(from Ehud’s a*shole), …someof us realize that it is the Israelis who are the “terrorists” and “savages”… – Fat DAD
“We give the terrorist state of Israel….” – ToB

Shrieks of a “election stolen” (while not defending the right of our democratic ally in the Middle East to defend herself) underscores the hypocrisy of the lunatic left. (Not to be confused with the kindly, but misguided left.)

I certainly HOPE that liberal Jews, who overwhelmingly support the left side of the aisle with their wallets, rethink their contributions. The largest anti-Israel lobby today are progressive political groups.

Thanks James. I’m just a bit swamped with studying for the Bar right now to do much checking…that’s why I asked for links… besides, I’ve asked for links when other posters make unsubstantiated claims, so it’s only fair.

Think Peace, it can’t hurt, and it just might help.

I suppose that could also mean actively destroying peace in the Middle East – which would then be entirely true…