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White House Endorses Column Calling For Israel to Attack Syria

On Friday, the White House released a document entitled “Setting the Record Straight: President Bush’s Foreign Policy is Succeeding.” One section, headlined “Conservatives Stand Behind The President’s Policies,” contains just one example:

On Wednesday, Max Boot Wrote: “Our Best Response Is Exactly What Bush Has Done So Far – Reject Premature Calls For A Cease-Fire And Let Israel Finish The Job.” (Max Boot, “It’s Time To Let The Israelis Take Off The Gloves,” Los Angeles Times, 7/19/06)

So apparently, urging the Israelis to “take off the gloves” means you are endorsing the administration’s policies in the current conflict. Also, the Boot column that the White House views as an endorsement of their policies also calls on Israel to attack Syria:

Syria is weak and next door. To secure its borders, Israel needs to hit the Assad regime. Hard. If it does, it will be doing Washington’s dirty work.

Tim Russert confronted White House Chief of Staff Josh Bolten about the release on Meet the Press yesterday. Bolten claimed the Boot column “was sent around as a reflection of some of the conservative columnists’ support for Israel.” In fact, it was sent around explicitly as reflecting support for administration policy. Watch it:

(H/T: Alternet)

Transcript:

RUSSERT: Also, the White House communications office, on Friday, issued a statement called “Setting the Record Straight.”

And they had this: “Conservatives Stand Behind the President’s Policies.”

And what they do is refer to an article by Max Boot of the Los Angeles Times as evidence of the conservative support for the president: “It’s time to let the Israelis take off the gloves. To secure its borders, Israel needs to hit the Syrian Assad regime. Hard. If it does, it will be doing Washington’s dirty work. Our best response is exactly what Bush has done so far, reject premature calls for a cease-fire and let Israel finish the job.”

That’s the White House communications office endorsing an article which says, hit Syria – for Israel to hit Syria. Is that administration policy?

BOLTEN: That article was sent around as a reflection of some of the conservative columnists’ support for Israel.

But no, the U.S. policy is that what we are doing and our diplomatic effort, from Secretary Rice, will be to ensure that the world community remains united in its understanding that the problem that we’re facing in the Middle East right now was generated by and is being sustained by terrorist attacks that need to stop.

And the United States will do everything that we can to ensure that there’s a sustainable cease-fire based on the Security Council resolution that says that terrorism has no place in Lebanon or anywhere else.



71 Responses to “White House Endorses Column Calling For Israel to Attack Syria”

  1. Jesus Christ God of WAR says:

    I was recently in Europe and Asia (travelling on business). There is much talk about which countries were the most dangerous and most significant threats to world peace. There is much talk about which countries foment the most “terror” around the world.

    I’m sure everyone can guess which countries came in #1 and #2 on everyone’s list:
    1- USA
    2- Isreal

    If that stupid illiterate gay frat-boy currently sitting in the MonkeyPalace wants Israel to “deal” with Syria, I’m sure he’ll think up all kinds of countries they can invade for him, while he remains bogged down in Iraq.

    If ever there was a better case to be brought before the World Court I don’t know of it.


  2. PLC (PatrioticLiberalChristian) says:

    It’s time for American voters to “take off the blinders” they wear.


  3. Briseadh na Faire says:

    In much of the world’s eyes, the United States is the world’s most dangerous Terrorist State. Following the logic and rationale of the Bush Administration, the rest of the world would be completely justified in executing a pre-emptive strike against the United States for the purpose of “regime change” and to rid the United States of weapons of mass destruction.


  4. Jason M. Hendler says:

    Who called it? Come on, gimme props – who called it?


  5. DrSinker says:

    Let’s not lose our minds here folks.

    The admin is clearly going to let Israel take this as far as they want, but I don’t see them allowing an invasion of Syria. That would certainly alienate the moderates in the region. I know the neocons are pushing for that, but (thankfully) there are just as many conservatives now calling it nonsense (Buckley, Will…)

    Obviously we have to be vigilant when it comes to what this admin says and does, but I’m hopeful they’ve realized that there’s as much a political side to this battle as there is a military one.


  6. Jason M. Hendler says:

    #5, Dr,

    I bet Israel will launch airstrikes against encampments on the Syrian / Iraq border that are supporting Iraqi insurgents though …


  7. Suck the Baby's Skull Out says:

    Syria has been enabling the insurgency in Iraq. Why would we NOT endorse an attack on them?

    There is a reason Americans do not trust liberals with national security. It’s called moral clarity. Please get some.


  8. t-mac says:

    So this is what it felt like in Germany circa 1936.

    Did anyone see the commercial for the news feature on CNN that profiles evangelicals and how they are excited about the pending Armagadeon about to explode in the middle east. These people scare the crap out of me!

    t-mac


  9. bones says:

    What do you call the government of a country that invades other sovreign nations that aren’t a threat to them , supply weapons of mass destruction to other nations, and call for invasions and death of other democratically elected governments and officials? We called them terrorists, how do we look in the same mirror?


  10. ojason baddo says:

    so, there is is folks. prepare to pay $10 for gas & worse get ready to send your kid to fight for it!


  11. Time Capsule says:

    you republicans are ruining your own country


  12. Judd says:

    Morality clarity does not mean supporting every war. Moral clarity means chosing the policies that best protect America. It’s unclear to me how a full scale regional war in the Middle East makes America safer.


  13. Joe Sixpack says:

    There is a reason Americans do not trust liberals with national security. It’s called moral clarity. Please get some.
    Comment by Suck the Baby\’s Skull Out

    Hey, Suckbutt, here is some moral clarity for you: I was just looking at http://www.pollingreport.com and in ALL recent polls the Americans are calling you a liar.


  14. bones says:

    If you have a dispute with someone you can (a) sit down with them and a disinterested third party and work it out, (b) try to beat them up, (c) vandalize their home, (d) hire a hitman and have them killed. Which of these is the “adult” thing to do? Which of these does the American taxpayer already pay millions for by having a State Dept? Which of these leads to peace and which ends up costing US service members their lives?


  15. james risser says:

    for anyone interested in the us impending invasion of syria, click on this article from the american conservative magazine from JANUARY of this year.

    “Three years ago, the U.S. invasion of Iraq was widely viewed as the first chapter of a region-wide strategy to redraw the entire map of the Middle East. After Iraq, Syria and Iran would be the next targets, after which the oil-rich states of the Arabian Gulf, including Saudi Arabia, would follow. It was a policy driven by neoconservatives in and out of the Bush administration, and they didn’t exactly make an effort to keep it secret. In April 2003, in an article in The American Prospect entitled “Just the Beginning,” I wrote, “Those who think that U.S. armed forces can complete a tidy war in Iraq, without the battle spreading beyond Iraq’s borders, are likely to be mistaken.” The article quoted various neocon strategists who sought precisely that. Among them was Michael Ledeen, the arch-Machiavellian and Iran-Contra manipulator-in-chief, who argued from his perch at the American Enterprise Institute: “I think we’re going to be obliged to fight a regional war, whether we want to or not. As soon as we land in Iraq, we’re going to face the whole terrorist network. It may turn out to be a war to remake the world.””


  16. Just plain mad says:

    I think it is sad that people don’t understand that Zionists are not really orthodox Jews but a movement created by Slovic converted militeristic Jews that formed the World Zionist Organization in 1890. What is running Israel is about as Jewish as the Neocons and right wing end of times evangelicals (Christian Zionists) are Christians. Jihadist muslims are in the same league as Zionists and Chirsitian Zionists. So essentially, a group if militant liars are leading the world into the ground.

    Jews, Christians and Moslems have been either deceived, lye to themselves or are outright part of the problem that support any one of the three false faiths. Our truths have been fabricated from the lies that we have let ourselves to believe over time. Any group that put military action as a means to piece and talks down about the values of certain lives are certainly not people of faith of any sort. They are just liars in search of power.


  17. idlecrank says:

    John Burns was on CNN this morning. The anchor asked twice why if Syria is responsible isn’t the U.S. talking with Syria. Burns really didn’t have an answer–he just spouted talking points. At least the CNN anchor tried to call him on and repeated the question as to why the U.S. isn’t talking directly to Syria to “stop this shit.”


  18. Judd says:

    Note: The comments section is a place for discussion. It’s not a place to hurl invective against people who disagree with you. If you just post ad hominem attacks with no content, those comments will be deleted. Individual flame end up crowding out meaningful commentary.


  19. neopro says:

    I dont think the republicans will rest until the whole world is one big quagmire. Invasion clearly didnt work in Iraq or Afghanistan, why would it work in Syria? Israel’s overly aggressiveness will only further isolate them from the reigion and make them even more hated. Bombing the shit out of your neighbors is no way to make friends.


  20. james risser says:

    neo: Invasion clearly didnt work in Iraq or Afghanistan, why would it work in Syria?

    the invasions by the bush crime family worked exactly as planned! this is the result they were interested in accomplishing! until you make that ‘leap of faith’ you will continue to scratch your head over the seeming illogic of the situation.

    there is tremendously more cash in chaos than in non-chaos. it is no mistake that the jump from afghanistan to iraq has caused afghanistan to re-brew into more death and destruction! it is all part of the plan….

    this crime family has 911 days remaining to murder, maim, steal, and lie. they will take all 911 of them…at the going rate, at least another 90,000 iraqi civilians will be dead, thousands more tortured, several 100,000 refugees will remain homeless in afghanistan, iraq, lebanon… the money-laundering murderers in the olmert crime family will continue to steal, murder, maim and lie, as they continue the occupation.

    billions upon billions of dollars will go to the crime family… the perceived failures are truly successes…


  21. Time Capsule says:

    Listen isreal has only entered a few hundred metres into the lebanon and are finding a formidable resistance – Try Syria and they will really do Isreal some damage , be even tougher – Together with an Iranian Pact it will be Goodbye Isreal so please do

    At least your troops in Iraq will get wasted

    what about North Korea your for too yellow bellied to attack them – America Idiot Nation

    Start wars nearer you own holiday destinations not Ours

    Move Isreal to America I aggree with Iran on this


  22. DieNowForPeace says:

    “take off the gloves” – Great, another quote we’ll learn to regret, as in “bring it on”

    “Fool me twice, er, eh, can’t get fooled again…” Sheesh, even Shrub’s misquote was a misquote (as if he’s ever listened to the Who…)


  23. Southwest Bob says:

    bush and his neocon handlers want to have “regime change” in the middle east for only one purpose. . . to insure a reliable source of oil for American oil companies. This isn’t about “setting the people free” or that they “hate our freedom,” it’s all about control of oil reserves. Why do you think we are building military bases all over Iraq…? So we can turn them over to Iraq? NO, so we can use military force to control the region.


  24. neopro says:

    #20, that’s true, the Bush wackos want perpetual war. There is plenty of profit to be made for the corporate war machine and the industrial military complex as a result of the sensless violence. But won’t the average joe-shmo americans who typically arent pure evil realize that creating another civil war in yet another country won’t accomplish anything? While dictator shrub and his gangsters at the project for a new american century may want perpetual war without end, won’t the american people (who can sometimes be sane during those rare moments when they arent feeling apathetic) realize that killing more innocent people won’t solve anything?


  25. Logic And Reason says:

    #7 you have a right to your opinion. But mentioning war and moral clarity in the same sentence and then somehow say that liberals have none is a rather strange and nonsensical argument.

    What does war have to do with moral clarity? How is the loss of much innocent life moral?


  26. Solitaire says:

    Was calling Bush ‘gay’ supposed to be an insult? I’m insulted that anyone on this blog could figure that calling Bush gay is derrogatory. In fact, it is more credit than he is due. A gay man would not behave as Bush behaves. A gay man understands suffering, works to improve the world, keeps his religion out of other people’s bedrooms, and cares about his fellow man. Where does Bush fit into THAT picture, Jesus Christ God of WAR?
    Bush is a breeder, and you can keep him, we don’t want him.


  27. Joe Sixpack says:

    Hey Time Capsule #21. Do you wear a black turban on your head like the rest of the terrorists in case you run out of toilet paper, or are you just a natural born shithead?


  28. DieNowForPeace says:

    You’d think these so called “men of God” who are running our country and claim to talk directly to him would try listening to both sides of reason. As if horrific natural disasters during war (December tsunami, or deadly American hurricanes, or middle east earthquakes) aren’t a “message” from God to take care of each other rather than kill each other? Oh, I forget that Republicans only listen to the side of an issue which feeds their agenda… “kill em all, and set the oil free!”

    This country is and will only be as free as the largest political donor will allow.

    Can you say “anarchy”? Good, I thought you could.


  29. Willy says:

    There is a reason Americans do not trust liberals with national security. It’s called moral clarity. Please get some.

    Comment by Suck the Baby’s Skull Out — July 24, 2006 @ 12:04 pm

    It’s enlightening when right wingnuts project their immorality onto others. As has already been stated here by others, how is killing innocent men, women, children and babies moral?


  30. james risser says:

    won’t the american people (who can sometimes be sane during those rare moments when they arent feeling apathetic) realize that killing more innocent people won’t solve anything?

    i think you may over-estimate the average american. the average american only cares about his or herself. the average american is in denial that they are part of the most evil regime in the history of mankind. they go to work, try to not get fired, eat at mcdonald’s for lunch, go home, try to screw their spouse, sleep, and repeat.

    the consideration of the death of inncoent civilians does not cross their mind very often…

    killing innocent people may be offensive to you and me, but, to the crime family and the special interests and to the congress, killing innocent people fills their pockets. you and i do not decide whether to kill innocents or not. we have soldiers volunteering to kill innocents, and, a congress willing to oblige in the murder by funding their crass wars.

    so, killing inncocents does solve the problem of missing out on the money you now have because of their death.


  31. Time Capsule says:

    27# Joe Sixpack

    You know what your very ignorant of your won countries UN record


  32. james risser says:

    the thought of invading syria has been giving the neoconservatives wood for some time now.

    march 2005, krauthammer:

    The wider war that the Bush administration seems to be pursuing was telegraphed long ago by the various neocon pundits and prognosticators. Charles Krauthammer used his Washington Post column in March to suggest that the way to advance the “glorious, delicate, revolutionary moment in the Middle East” is to go after Syria. “This is no time to listen to the voices of tremulousness, indecision, compromise, and fear,” he wrote. Instead, the Bush administration’s commitment to spreading democracy should take it “through Beirut to Damascus.”


  33. Jesus Christ God of WAR says:

    #30 – the average american only cares about his or herself. the average american is in denial that they are part of the most evil regime in the history of mankind. they go to work, try to not get fired, eat at mcdonald’s for lunch, go home, try to screw their spouse, sleep, and repeat…

    Comment by james risser

    Good point.

    In the vast culture of I Me Mine what need is there to consider others?

    Herein lay the foundation for the events that lead to 9/11. Herein lay the distrust and disgust the world has for Americans.

    We used to be a nation that cared for one another, well, at least within the working classes. Now even the working class has been torn to shreds by the Kinder, Gentler, Thousand Points of Light, Jesus Loving, Muslim hating, Christian bigot pandering NeoCon Republican Party Policital Media Machine.


  34. Joe Sixpack says:

    27# Joe Sixpack You know what your very ignorant of your won countries UN record Comment by Time Capsule

    (_!_)


  35. jason baddo says:

    #30 i think you may over-estimate the average american. the average american only cares about his or herself. the average american is in denial that they are part of the most evil regime in the history of mankind. they go to work, try to not get fired, eat at mcdonald’s for lunch, go home, try to screw their spouse, sleep, and repeat.

    very true what you describe. However, the key to maintaining this lifestyle is the availability of cheap gas. However, replace cheap gas with expensive gas then this lifestyle falls apart.


  36. Humanist says:

    The only moral clarity in the United States of America is that it is crystal clear that there is a distinct absence of morality in the American collective.

    The sustained murdering of innocent Iraqi children, women, and men can in no way be defined as a moral action or policy. There does not exist a more contradictory action, in fact, in regard to moral behavior.

    Your interment camp in Guantanamo certainly has no moral application.

    Your abandonment of your own gulf coast citizens (friends, neighbors, family) during their time of desperate need certainly displayed a lack of morality that was abundantly clear.

    There is nothing moral about the USA in its current form. Nor is there any basis for any of you to preach to the world from the ivory tower in your mind about your advanced sensibilities or moralities. Your actions, and inactions, speak volumes to the heinousness of your current existence. It is beyond belief that any American would have the audacity to even think that you are morally superior, let alone profess it publicly.

    As a country, you now find yourselves debating about who you should either directly murder, or support to be murdered, next. And then each side of the argument rushes to jump upon your pedestals, which are actually just grotesque piles of dismembered and mutilated bodies, so as to be able to claim the “moral” position on the matter. Can you really be that deranged?

    Do you not see your vileness? Can you not open your eyes and minds so as to see and acknowledge that it is the collective YOU who has become the enemy of humanity? Can you be so ignorant as to not see that it is the collective YOU who are the most extreme and prolific perpetrators of terrorism that the world has ever seen?

    Can any of you describe to me that moment in your life where you were able to come to terms with the fact that your country was a murderous rapist? I mean, the facts are all there to support that condemnation, so how have you been able to justify it in your own minds? Enlighten me please.

    May peace be with us all.


  37. jason baddo says:

    #36 Humanist,

    Very eloquent post. To clarify further on the madness of the Bush junta:

    Tony Snow, WH Press-Secreatary, announced today that the U.S. is sending helicopters and ships to Lebanon to provide humanitarian aid.

    SO we all understand this…..the client state Israel used American weaponry paid for by American tax dollars to destroy Lebanese infrastructure. America turns around and uses American tax dollars to provide assistance for the victims from the weaponry paid for by the original tax dollars that were given to the client state to arm itself.


  38. bones says:

    If someone had gone to rob a bank and ended up taking hostages (2 for example), you would expect the police to respond, surrond the building, find out everything they could about the kidnappers, and either attempt a rescue or wait them out and negotiate. You would not expect or CONDONE, bombing out the roads in the town, blowing up families of the kidnappers and accepting innocent civilian casualties as collateral damage, cutting off power and water to the town, herding everyone in town out into the countryside, blowing up homes, and asking the National Guard to occupy the town.


  39. PLC (PatrioticLiberalChristian) says:

    36 Humanist
    The patriot part of me wants to take you on and dispute your words. But the liberal Christian in me is simply saddened by the truth they contain. Then the patriot kicks in again with the hope that we do have many good heartened, good intentioned people in this country who trusted BushCo. in the past but not now and will vote for real moral change. Tough to be an American right now.


  40. canuck says:

    If the Syrians are paying attention, and I assume they are; if and when attacked resist with a portion of forces, store weapons, melt military into population,spread out and wait, just as in Iraq. America and Israel can not deal with an occupation or the holding of territory. It will ruin their countries,their economies, and their remaining repect in the world.
    Ruining Syria will not be enough to stop their enemiies.They must hold it .
    Biggest gun does not win unless it is used to totaly wipe out everything. The attacked mid- eastern countries win if they survive.

    These are a patient people, unlike Americans and Israelis who want quick and lasting results, and this is clearly unwinnable in the LONG-run. Are you winning? “well we’re not losing” ad infinitum.


  41. Jay Randal says:

    Yes because Bush wants a war on Syria and Iran, so expect it to happen before the November elections!


  42. jason baddo says:

    #40 These are a patient people, unlike Americans and Israelis who want quick and lasting results,

    Excellent point. Arabs are traditionally a patient people. They will wait it out. The individual wrongs done to them will come back to haunt america and isreal way way down the line. revenge is a dessert worth the waiting


  43. Humanist says:

    #39-PLC,
    I can appreciate your dilemma, but I don’t think that you truly understand the magnitude of it. Intending no disrespect, I have to point out that it is much “tougher” to be an Iraqi, or Afghani, or Palestinian, or Lebanese, or Israeli, or Syrian, or Iranian, than it is to be an American right now. You dilemma does not involve not knowing whether you will be around to witness today’s sunset. Nor does it involve burying your child, or whole family. Or wrestling with whether you must follow the “law” of your religion and abandon your teenage daughter because she was raped by the foreign occupiers and is now technically a dishonor to your family.

    The cross that Americans have to bear is not only miniscule, but it is also of your own construction. Yet the crosses that the actions/inactions of the American collective have foisted upon those in the middle east is the size of a mountain in comparison. And it is constructed of razor wire, and exploding devices, and flesh eating chemicals, and radioactive materials.

    Please stand up and do something. Go out into public where your face can be seen and communicate to all-“Not in my name!” You’ll endure ridicule. You’ll “suffer” some inconveniences. But you will see today’s sunset. Unlike the Iraqi children, and Lebanese children, and Israeli children, and Palestinian children, and Afghani children who were removed from this planet today in your name for the sole “crime” of them just being.

    May peace be with us all.


  44. Marie says:

    BEFORE the Israeli soldiers were taken captive, an Israeli missle hit a beach where Palestinian families were picnicking — we all saw the phot of the girl on the beach near her dead father didn’t we?
    To say that the captured soldiers is the reason for this war is disingenuous – it was merely an excuse to do as they had planned a year ago, waiting for the opportunity. Hezbollah gave it to them with the soldiers, but if that hadn’t happened, there would have been a different triggering incident.
    Max Boot is simply playing a role for BushCo, giving them an article to display, showing support for the US unconditional support of Israel.


  45. Juan C says:

    “the United States makes no distinction between those who commit acts of terror and those who support them, because they’re equally as guilty of murder,” and “the civilized world must hold those regimes to account.” This was proclaimed to great applause at the National Endowment for Democracy, a few days after Venezuela’s extradition request had been refused. Bush’s remarks pose another dilemma. Either the US is part of the civilized world, and must send the US air force to bomb Washington; or it declares itself to be outside the civilized world. The logic is impeccable, but fortunately, logic has been dispatched as deep into the memory hole as moral truisms. The Bush doctrine that “those who harbor terrorists are as guilty as the terrorists themselves” was promulgated when the Taliban asked for evidence before handing over people the US suspected of terrorism – without credible evidence, as the FBI conceded many months later. The doctrine is taken very seriously. Harvard international relations specialist Graham Allison writes that it has “already become a de facto rule of international relations,” revoking “the sovereignty of states that provide sanctuary to terrorists.” Some states, that is, thanks to the rejection of the principle of universality.


  46. Juan C says:

    There is a reason Americans do not trust liberals with national security. It’s called moral clarity. Please get some.
    Comment by Suck the Baby’s Skull Out — July 24, 2006 @ 12:04 pm

    I agree…specially when the biggest terrorist attack on US soil (9/11) happened when the GOP was in charge. Nice try.


  47. Solitaire says:

    “Moral clarity” is called for by Suck the Baby’s Skull Out!


  48. Redleg says:

    Suck,
    You don’t know moral clarity from a hole in the ground. Your wingnuts have all the moral development of 10-year olds. You only understand coercive power and believe that learning only occurs as a way to avoid punishment. “We have to attack country X or terrorist group Y because if we don’t, they won’t respect us.” Guess what, they don’t respect you or Bush anyway.

    BTW, Bush has done such a fantastic job with national security. He’s a real he-man, along with all the other chickenhawks who like it best when others fight the battles.


  49. Big Al says:

    It seems that our government is doing everything it can to enourage World War III which apparently will be centered in what was once known as The Fertile Crescent. In the meantime, however, no reason for the President not to host the ten finalists from American Idol. After all, didn’t Franklin Roosevelt host the 10 semi-finalists from the Miss America Pageant in 1944?


  50. Juan C says:

    #30 James. Great post. Nice blog.


  51. SKdeA says:

    #37, exactly. War iis big business, especially if it happens somewhere else so you can sell to both sides.


  52. Lee says:

    Is anyone surprised? Celebrate while the violence erupts? After all this is the same sociopath who jokes about a blind man wearing sun glasses, asks a person in a wheelchair why he is not standing up like the others asks the soldier who lost a hand in Iraq why he is not shaking hands, as a child,used to blow up frogs with firecrackers and jokes about not finding any WMD.


  53. exley says:

    Good news..Even France recognizes that the the current situation in Israel and Lebanon is solely the fault of the terrorist group Hezbollah:

    Born-again allies, France and US unite over Lebanon By Jon Boyle
    Mon Jul 24, 1:15 PM ET

    PARIS (Reuters) – “France and the United States worked together to oust Syria from Lebanon and, despite tactical differences due to divergent agendas in the region, they agree who is to blame for the current crisis — Hizbollah.

    The born-again allies, their rift over Iraq a thing of the past, want to isolate and disarm the Shi’ite Muslim group, whose backers Iran and Syria underscore the wider strategic issues at play in the latest round of Middle East conflict.”

    The United States, France, and the rest of the civilized result must be staunch in their support of Israel and stand together against the forces of terrorist savages like Hezbollah, Hamas, and Al Qaeda.


  54. Juan C says:

    Exley: Why didnt you agree with french saying this?

    French President Jacques Chirac has become the latest Western leader to speak out against an American attack on Iraq.
    He condemned US threats to attack Iraq unilaterally, saying that a United Nations mandate should be sought for military action.

    We are beginning to see the temptation of legitimising the unilateral and preventive use of force – this development is worrying


  55. Ken says:

    Just vote the majority out of office in November…then we deal with the constitutional treason of the administration…then we get out country back from the neo-nazi reichwingnuts.


  56. exley says:

    Juan C, because that years-old quote is irrelevant to the fact that France and the U.S. have put aside their differences regarding the toppling of Saddam Hussein and are now working together in condemning the terrorist savages of Hezbollah for provoking this latest conflict. Try to stay on topic, please.


  57. Juan C says:

    Exley: About Israel…this is from an israeli newspaper:

    The fact that George Bush and Tony Blair are cheering Israel might be consolation for Ehud Olmert and the media in Israel, but it is not enough to persuade millions of TV viewers who see the images of destruction and devastation, most of which are not shown to Israeli audiences. The world sees entire neighborhoods that have been destroyed, hundreds of thousands of refugees fleeing in panic, homeless, and hundreds of civilians dead and wounded including many children who have nothing to do with Hezbollah.

    The continuation of the war therefore is neither moral nor worthwhile. The economic blow the war caused to Israel will even remain limited if the war ends now. A lethal summer will exact a much greater economic price.

    The Israeli rear, which has so far displayed impressive resilience, will not remain indifferent in the shelters for much longer. Slowly, the cracks will open and citizens will begin to ask why we are dying and what we are killing for. That’s just the way of war. At first, nobody asks why, but the more entangled they become, the more difficult the questions become.

    We’ve been here before, more than once. Wars began with broad national approval and ended with a great crisis. Those who bask now in the consensus should know that nothing lasts forever. The war will become an imbroglio. When it becomes apparent that the air force is not enough, the ground invasion that has already begun will intensify. The cliche about the Lebanese quagmire will be revalidated, and when the soldiers are killed, as is already happening daily, in house to house hunting, the protests will rise and divide society.

    And by savages…are you referring to the people that invented algebra, soap, mirrors, telescopes? While Israelis invented … well … Israel!


  58. Juan C says:

    I agree. Hezbollah are terrorists. Like Israel and US in a lesser scale. Do you agree?


  59. exley says:

    Do I agree that Hezbollah are terrorists? Of course I agree…They are savages.

    Do I agree that the U.S. and Israel are terrorists? Of course I don’t agree with such an immature and morally-repugnant proposition.

    Fighting against terrorists that perpetrate grotesque acts of violence against innocent civilians is not terrorism. It is called self-defense, to which every nation of earth has a right.

    To argue otherwise is to argue that the policeman uses lethal force against a criminal who is about to murder a citizen is also a criminal.


  60. Juan C says:

    Exley: Self-defense is what the Iraqi insurgency is doing…to argue otherwise would mean that it is ok to be invaded by China and do nothing about it. You would be part of those who agree with a chinese invasion to US, right?

    I can present you 180 examples of US international aggressions…what will you say then? Oh, remember, I think 9/11 was an inside job, I must be crazy, so I probably are making all this up.


  61. JPark says:

    Please, don’t give Humanist a forum for his bigotry toward Americans (yes, even liberals). He despises all Americans whether they are supporters of Bush or not.


  62. Exley says:

    Heh! Juan C is always left so devastated by the facts that he is forced, like some pathetic conspiracy-theorist, to resort to the lunatic idea that 9/11 was an “inside job.” That just shows the moral emptiness of his ideology. I pity you, Juan C.


  63. PeterBBB says:

    Here is a great video with Pat Buchanan, a conservative, slamming Israel’s reckless and heinous behavior. I was touched….

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5jFZDbDyinw


  64. Juan C says:

    I pity you, Juan C.
    Comment by Exley — July 24, 2006 @ 11:28 pm

    Thats your problem, not mine. I missed your answer by the way.


  65. Jay Randal says:

    Now that Bush has gotten the American nationals out of Lebanon, the Israeli ground offensive will begin in earnest, especially after receiving the shipment of precision bombs from Dubya!


  66. Noura says:

    do you really think Isreal is going to INVADE Syria, a 24 million inhabitant country? They will bomb the hell out of them, that’s all. Cowards they are, cowards they will remain.


  67. Time Capsule says:


    GRAPHIC VIDEO – Lebanese Doctor Says ‘Phosphorus Weapons’ Cause Suffering

    CNN video correspondent, Karl Penhaul, follows a family that had been mistakenly caught in an Israeli air strike. The doctor treating the family says that there is phosphorus in the weapons that cause extremely painful burns on it’s victims.

    ———————————————————

    Lebanon president says Israel uses phosphorous arms

    PARIS, July 24 (Reuters) – Lebanon’s president accused Israel on Monday of using phosphorous bombs in its 13-day offensive and urged the United Nations to demand an immediate ceasefire.

    “According to the Geneva Convention, when they use phosphorous bombs and laser bombs, is that allowed against civilians and children?” President Emile Lahoud asked on France’s RFI radio.

    An Israeli military spokeswoman said arms used in Lebanon did not contravene international norms.


  68. One Jew says:

    Remember 1936? Hitler was Time’s magazine man of the year.
    Why don’t you fellas signup for making Hizbuluh’s boss a man of the year?
    What most of you fellas do not realize is, that you are in a wrong bunch.
    Whatever led you there, Bush hating, Kerry/Gore/Clinton loving, unstable mental health – you are in a wrong bunch.
    You are in a same bunch with Malaysian President. He’s known and acknowledged anti-semite.
    Why not make’im a man of the year?
    Would you dare to vote for Uma-Sama as the man of the year?
    That would be the same thing, except even more honest.
    Just be honest. Say truth.
    What do you feel toward jews?
    What do you feel toward USA?
    Which one you hate more?
    Ask yourself? But remember – be honest.


  69. shotta says:

    hey guys, please check out this link. It’s scary as hell..
    I can’t believe they are using this shit on civilians,

    http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=06/07/25/1442252


  70. Lindsey says:

    I’ve been trying to get something up on this blog for a while now about this new movie that is premiering today in NYC, Tampa, Austin, Chicago, and Kansas City. It’s by Aaron Russo, “AMERICA: Freedom to Fascism”, and it rocks. If you think this country is screwed up, watch the film. I saw it and I felt physically ill afterwards.

    http://www.freedomtofascism.com


  71. Jewschool » Blog Archive » ð ðé ðéà ðéàå ðéàå÷ ðéàå÷å ðéàå÷åï àâ’ðãä says:

    [...] Can Bush mobilize support for strikes against Syria and Iran? It is certainly among his administration’s strategic aims. And with a clear record of “purposeful misrepresentation of intelligence” and a wholly gullible American polity which loses its shit every time something blows up… Who knows? The re-election of the Bush-Cheney team after Iran-Contra, the S&L scandal, and the Gulf War fiasco — because of the “core American values” supposedly challenged by an Oval Office blowjob — points to an America which suffers from a painfully short memory and a mesmerizing preoccuption with legislating other people’s sex lives (abortion, gay marriage, sex education, television/radio/videogame indecency). [...]



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