Dick Morris: ‘Civil War Is Progress’ In Iraq
Dick Morris: ‘Civil War Is Progress’ In Iraq
On March 16, conservative pundit Dick Morris told Sean Hannity things were going better than people thought in Iraq, arguing “what is going on is not a civil war.â€
Now, Morris believes that there is civil war in Iraq but argues that it’s a good thing. Appearing on the O’Reilly Factor last night, Morris said “a civil war is progress, because it means it’s no longer a war against us.†Watch it:
A recent U.N. report found that over 14,000 civilians have been killed in Iraq during the first half of this year.
Transcript:
O’REILLY: It also knocked Iraq off the front page.
MORRIS: Yeah, well, that’s true. But you know in Iraq, the casualties are dropping, the U.S. casualties are dropping.
O’REILLY: U.S. casualties, right. Civilians - because it’s now a civil war. After Zarqawi was killed, the insurgency fell down.
MORRIS: What we don’t understand is in Iraq, a civil war is progress, because it means it’s no longer a war against us.
O’REILLY: I don’t know, it’s such a mess in there.
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July 25th, 2006 at 1:40 pmDick obviously took too many stupid pills before the BO show started
July 25th, 2006 at 1:43 pmprogress for the conqueror, but not the country or it's people. .......not too maniacally self-centered........and who helped incite the civil war?
July 25th, 2006 at 1:47 pmFrom Wikipedia:
Oh yeah. I trust him.
July 25th, 2006 at 1:47 pmProgress means more of them getting killed than us. Awesome. Who can we bomb next?
July 25th, 2006 at 1:48 pmThis is a technique that TV dramas like to use. Don't ever acknowledge the unwanted civil war but skip one step and talk about it's benefits. The plot jump. The bridge. The missing link. The point at which you no longer question time travel but only know you're reaqdy to go...
And by the way, Democrats.
Byron Dorgan is using the "Low level civil war" language. Tsk...
Why don't Palestinians just move somewhere where they're wanted? -Ed Schultz
July 25th, 2006 at 1:50 pmSo the argument goes like this: "Event X does not exist until I figure out how it actually benfits me".
What is interesting is to hear (read) O'Reilly say "It's such a mess in there". That sounds like a bad assessment of Pres Bush's policies towards Iraq. Wasn't O'Reilly calling anyone who disagreed with the Bush administration "traitor", "America-hater"? Doesn't this statemetnt undermine the troops' morale?
July 25th, 2006 at 1:54 pmDick Morris is a putrid human being, who loves to suck the toes of prostitutes, so he can shut up his damn cesspool yapper!
July 25th, 2006 at 1:55 pmOh yes, a civil war is good also because it cuts down on surplus population.
Regardless, the Bush administration is responsible for creating the environment for civil war. Heckuva job, macho boy Bush.
July 25th, 2006 at 1:55 pmmouth full of dick
morris
is only stating the policy of the americans... blood, any blood shed from a non-white, is a 'good' thing. there is cash in chaos, and the longer the iraqis bleed, the longer the occupation will go on. the more $100 billion 'emergency' funds will be authorized by the democrats in congress, the more money the special interests make through death and destruction.
the bush crime family runs on the blood and dead bodies of the innocent.
July 25th, 2006 at 1:56 pmYes civil wars are good. Oh wait they are killing, blowing people up, maiming and destroying everything. That seems a little uncivil to me.
July 25th, 2006 at 1:58 pmUS!?
I nor any of my fellow Soldiers has EVER seen Mr Morris out on the front lines with any of US!
IDIOT
RIP
SGT Stephen R Sherman
C CO 1-5 Inf (Stryker)
KIA 03 Feb 06
Mosul, Iraq
Or as Tony Snow, the Repuppetcans, the DLC (Down Low Conservatives) and the Neo's would say:
#1462
July 25th, 2006 at 1:58 pm#6, TIA,
July 25th, 2006 at 1:58 pm'Why don't you just move somewhere you're wanted?'
That may be of benefit to the thread, since you seem
to post questions instead of solutions.
Dorgan is one of the few Senators left with honesty. Is that a problem?
Ed Schultz's comment was an honest question on his part. He didn't
know the history of the Palistinians and was asking a question.
I'd rather hear an honest question from a Progressive than the blowhard,
lying Neocons who have no time to ask questions; they already know
'what's best for us'.
From Wikipedia:
Morris is best known for managing Bill Clinton’s successful 1996 bid for re-election to the office of President of the United States. His tenure on that campaign was cut short two months before the election, when it was revealed that he had had an extramarital affair with a prostitute and allowed her to listen to conversations with the President.
Which one was the prostitute?
July 25th, 2006 at 2:00 pmJust another has been politial advisor with a sorted past. . . bet he has a long term contract with Faux News. The reality is that bushco's plan to terrorize the middle east into democracy has failed. But, the "war" supporters aren't about to admit that the neocon dream of "right make right" has failed to deliver anything other than huge profits for friends of bush/cheney. I am surprised it took bush/cheney so long to come up with the plan to have Israel attack its neighbors. What a great plan to draw attention away from the Iraq failure.
July 25th, 2006 at 2:02 pmdoes this toe-sucking jerk think the American Civil War was a good thing as well?
July 25th, 2006 at 2:03 pmIf this civil war is a good thing, why doesn't Dick move overseas to help them out?
July 25th, 2006 at 2:08 pmas bill clinton pimps joe lieberman, and hillary clinton suports the war, let the face of dick morris, and his crulety, remind all that the difference between the clinton and the bush dynasties is closer than one would expect....
July 25th, 2006 at 2:09 pm"There is a war of arms. And there is a war of ideas. They are not just inter-related, they are interdependent. They are equally consequential."
Yeah, and Republicans are losing both of them.
July 25th, 2006 at 2:09 pmDick Morris called Hillary Clinton a lesbian, and Bill Clinton a devious adulteror, but Morris is the sexual diviant! He gets paid to help very sleazy Republicans and overseas creeps too!
July 25th, 2006 at 2:13 pmMorris took time out from his hookers to be on TV?
July 25th, 2006 at 2:15 pmjust a second i need to stop laughing. wtf, this dumb sob. this has rothchilds israel all over it. this shit just pisssssssses me offff to no end.
July 25th, 2006 at 2:17 pmbecause it means it’s no longer a war against us
So Iraqis are NEVER going to seek revenge for what we have done?
July 25th, 2006 at 2:28 pmwhy fight them here, when we can ignite a civil war and let them fight each other.
after all, that's the christian thing to do
compassionate conservatives my ass
July 25th, 2006 at 2:28 pmIt's clear that Morris went into politics because of his deep, abiding love for the human race.
July 25th, 2006 at 2:32 pmThe killing continues while Americans preach sanctimoniously their message of hate.
The deception that led you into this atrocity has been exposed, yet the killing continues.
You profess “Mission Accomplishedâ€, yet the killing continues.
Your torturous and murderous ways are exposed, yet the killing continues.
Children are raped and whole families are exterminated, yet the killing continues.
You all argue your miniscule points and irrelevant opinions as self-ordained experts, yet the killing continues.
You dwell in your obesity salivating about what to gorge yourself on next, yet the killing continues.
You toss around jokes and what you believe to be “witty†commentary, yet the killing continues.
All of the killing, all of the atrocities, and all the heinous activities occur in your name and with your sanction. Children are maimed and murdered, women are raped and slaughtered, men are exterminated simply for being, all in your name, and Americans sit around in their smugness with the asinine belief that they are better than anyone else. Yet, you are awash in the blood of your actions. You have become vile beings refusing to accept the responsibility of your actions and inactions thinking that your gluttony will ultimately absolve you, when in fact it only makes you more heinous.
Why do you do nothing? Why do you allow for children to be blown to shreds with their blood and lifeless body strewn about a demolished neighborhood, while you “debate†your perceived moral authority? What makes an American child more valuable and precious than an Iraqi child?
How can you so cavalierly just “accept†that you have become by proxy a murdering, torturing, rapist whose only goal is to service their own disgusting blood lust?
Go ahead, try and dispute any of those truths and then look to the east where at this very moment a small child’s mutilated body lay oozing the last drops of blood upon the lap of a weeping mother.
May peace be with us all.
July 25th, 2006 at 2:37 pmI still don't understand why they put these insensitive, emotionally un-intellegent, people in front of a TV camera. It's not entertaining....it's boring (beyond being disgusting). I mean, what gives with TV producers these days?
July 25th, 2006 at 2:47 pm26----The killing continues while Americans preach sanctimoniously their message of hate.
blah,blah,blah,blah.... more antiamerican crap spewing from Humanist
Dude, I am against the war, the illegal Bush policies and actions, but your crap posts condeming all Americans are wearing thin with me and starting to piss me off.
You bull is as bad as the trolls trashing liberals and tryingto derail the threads
Lump me with the nazi Bushco administration again and you can, in the words of Darth Cheney " Go F**k yourself ".
July 25th, 2006 at 2:51 pm#27-Miro,
The killing continues, and your concern is about why you cannot get better television programming. Brilliant display of ignorance.
Peace.
July 25th, 2006 at 2:53 pm#28-Wayne,
Dispute any of the truths, sir, and might I suggest that you enroll in a class on vocabulary, you seem to be lacking in that area since you tend to use so many expletives.
So, I make you mad because I expose the truth that you run from. You should probably deal with your cowardice as well.
Peace.
July 25th, 2006 at 2:56 pm#27. Miro, the wingnuts need affirmation of their beliefs. If there was no FAUX news, they would be exposed as liars and idiots.
July 25th, 2006 at 2:57 pm..."because it means it’s no longer a war against us."
didn't we pick the fight?
I love politicians, they are so stupid....all politcians are prostitutes, aren't they?
July 25th, 2006 at 2:59 pmIt may be possible that a civil war is good for the Iraqi situation; though not for the callous self-serving reason that what's his name said. From my horribly uninformed analysis most, if not every, mature democratic government has fought a civil war at least once, and I would argue that it is because when their are ethnic/ideological divisions within a country physical aggression is one means of resolving these disputes. While not a particularly enlightened means of conflict resolution, not everyone has the option of legislating or 'talking it out' but will, or must, resolve their differences through bloodshed. I think it's better than just bottling up the differences and hoping for some magical 'elected' government to solve the problem.
July 25th, 2006 at 3:02 pmJay Randal
Dick Morris is a putrid human being, who loves to suck the toes of prostitutes, so he can shut up his damn cesspool yapper!
Wow, impressive!!! What would he have said about you?
July 25th, 2006 at 3:19 pm30
Read my post to you again, especially the part I put in quotes, thats my answer to you.
If you cannot post on the subject of the thread and just attack other posters, like in #29, you are just a troll.
July 25th, 2006 at 3:20 pmJebus loves me
G, I thought you wanted answers, they are right were you asked for.
July 25th, 2006 at 3:24 pmMORRIS: What we don’t understand is in Iraq, a civil war is progress, because it means it’s no longer a war against us.
Looks like GWB's work in Iraq is done. Hmmmm, let's see, who's next...?
July 25th, 2006 at 3:33 pmI imagine Dick Morris to really be what happens to Gollum as he gets older. Can't you just hear Dick saying " The Precious"? He and bill most have some drinking stories.Feet or Falafel tonight boys?
July 25th, 2006 at 3:33 pm#35-Wayne,
So, you do not see an American, on an American television show, broadcasting out to the American public that the Iraqi “civil war†is a good thing as being sanctimoniously preaching a message of hate? Seems to be on topic to me.
Your choice to ignore your responsibilities and then sit around gruffly barking at passersby is just that, your choice. It is unfortunate for you that you do not believe that the Iraqi children deserve better than to be murdered by your military, and by extension, you.
May peace be with us all.
July 25th, 2006 at 3:34 pmJAY SAYS: Dick Morris is a putrid human being, who loves to suck the toes of prostitutes, so he can shut up his damn cesspool yapper! NOT STRONG ENOUGH! Dick is just that, a dick! and he wouldn't know if someone was up him he's that thick!
July 25th, 2006 at 3:34 pm#26 Of course you have an immensely valid point but you must also realise that not all Americans are for the war, in fact more than 67% are against it. It's not their fault that they are being shafted by Diebold, the neocons and the imcompetants that run the WH! It will change with time, America will wake up eventually and deal with it -am not American obviously but I think that the times-are-a-changing for the best.
July 25th, 2006 at 3:42 pmAnd I spell badly! Vely vely sorry!
July 25th, 2006 at 3:44 pm#41-Outernet,
I understand what you are saying, but respectfully don’t agree with your perspective. To illustrate I’ll ask you just one simple question: How many murders of Iraqi children are acceptable to you during the wait-and-see period you suggest?
As a follow up, what would be the number if they were your children?
Peace.
July 25th, 2006 at 3:48 pm#39
I have been to anti-war protests, I am active in local politics. I voted against this illegal administration. I am very active in standing up against the illegal war, as much as any individual can.
You do not know me and your crap post shows that. Keep you self rightious attitude up. It just shows how shortsighted you are. You , sir, are no better than the neocon trolls.
Just tell me, other than bashing all Americans, what have you done?
July 25th, 2006 at 3:49 pmAnother bloated worm floating the GENOCIDE.
Dick Morris has betrayed his country so many times, he can't even hiccough without splattering blood on the flag.
July 25th, 2006 at 3:52 pmthis is somewhat off topic but not really
lastnight i was watching media wars, i believe that is the name. anyhow it is a tv show about the daily news and ny post and other newspaper whores fighting for stories. one was about some actor pinching some female on the butt. bs story. and the only thing worthwhile in that entire program was when a bystander came by and yelled, "this aint news, none of this is news. what news is that bush lied and thousands are dying" he had also if i remember made a comment about the criminalistic behavior of israel. i found it quite satisfying that someone is speaking out especially when the media is not expecting. there needs to be more of this.
July 25th, 2006 at 3:52 pmNone are acceptable! I know that. I'm not here to argue with you but to engage in the debate and hopefully change a few minds. That's all I can do short of saying the word SEDITION! If it was up to me a few heads would have rolled in Washington to be sure!!!
July 25th, 2006 at 3:53 pm#44-Wayne,
I am happy to hear that you are attempting to do something, but do not confuse effort with success. My question to you is this: What more, if anything, would you do or be doing if it were your children, your family, your friends who were being murdered?
And to answer your question, I am doing EVERYTHING non-violent that I can and will continue to do so day and night until the murderers are stopped. I will not cease, nor will I “wait and see†how things go, like most Americans have seemed to have chosen to do.
May peace be with us all.
July 25th, 2006 at 3:56 pmHumanist, where are you posting from?
July 25th, 2006 at 3:59 pmAppearing on the O’Reilly Factor last night, Morris said “a civil war is progress, because it means it’s no longer a war against us."
Wow, they must actually think the rest of the world is as stupid as them!
July 25th, 2006 at 4:01 pm#47-Outernet,
I agree, there is no morally acceptable number. Yet, the killing continues and Americans do nothing.
And I do not wish to argue either, and also agree that violence is not the answer. There are, though, an enormous number of peaceful options available to Americans that they are too comfortable and complacent to even consider. You cannot claim to be against drunk driving while riding in the passenger seat of your own car while allowing your drunk cousin to drive.
May peace be with us all.
July 25th, 2006 at 4:02 pmWayne, nevermind. The simpletons who need an easy target will never notice that Bushco and PNAC and MIC and the Billionaire Boys Club are not playing as part of our legal Republic, but as rogue elements busy in the DESTRUCTION of our democracy and honor, for filthy, bloody lucre.
They don't have any injustice in their own homes to address. They think America is a dog with two eyes and a tail. 'Humanist' has a long way to go in his understanding of the facts.
I've been protesting since 1970, one of millions fighting for the soul of America on the side of human rights. And I'm in the streets again, this afternoon.
Fight on, and don't worry about the 'Humanists' who see it all through a flat lens and a bleeding heart. And 'Humanist,' here's a clue -- UNLESS YOU, PERSONALLY, HAVE SUFFERED A DIRECT LOSS, YOU AREN'T A VICTIM. You sympathize with victims, as we do here. There is a big difference.
July 25th, 2006 at 4:03 pm#49-Outernet,
I am posting from, and reside on, the third planet from the sun in our solar system, Earth. Since it is the only planet in our solar system that is inhabitable by humans, I feel safe in my proclamation that I am posting from the same “place†that you are.
Peace.
July 25th, 2006 at 4:05 pmSo is getting busted with HOOKERS in you watergate hotel room Mr. Dick Mooris!!!!
July 25th, 2006 at 4:08 pmThen, 'Humanist,' WHAT is an American? You go on and on as if we here are to blame because 'we' are obese and lazy, nevermind that many of us aren't, while you yourself live on the third rock from the sun, perfect in every way.
Did you ever make any kind of sacrifice for your beliefs? Or is it all just the way you make yourself feel better, by believing you're special.
July 25th, 2006 at 4:12 pmThen, 'Humanist,' WHAT is an American? You go on and on as if we here are to blame because 'we' are obese and lazy, nevermind that many of us aren't, while you yourself live on the third rock from the sun, perfect in every way.
Did you ever make any kind of sacrifice for your beliefs? Or is it all just the way you make yourself feel better, by believing you're special.
July 25th, 2006 at 4:12 pm#52-Paul,
So, you believe now that your military is a rogue military? You did just say that their commander in chief is a “rogue†which would then make your entire military rogue. Therefore, you have just made the statement that your military is actually a band of international terrorists.
And definitely feel free to challenge me on any of the facts and truths that I communicate. I will be more than happy to show you the depth of my understanding.
Finally, your statement that “UNLESS YOU, PERSONALLY, HAVE SUFFERED A DIRECT LOSS, YOU AREN’T A VICTIM†is the most short sighted and ignorant statement possible. Your lack of intelligence and humanity is despicable.
May peace be with us all.
July 25th, 2006 at 4:15 pmAm off to DailyKos! Both Humanist and Paul: you both are on the same side for fucksake! Stop wasting precious time and blog on!
July 25th, 2006 at 4:19 pmThe original story, as most media tell it, goes something like this: Hezbollah attacked an Israeli border patrol station, killing six and taking two soldiers hostage. The incident happened on the Lebanese/Israel border in Israeli territory. The alternate version, as explained by several news outlets, tells a bit of a different tale: These sources contend that Israel sent a commando force into southern Lebanon and was subsequently attacked by Hezbollah near the village of Aitaa al-Chaab, well inside Lebanon's southern territory. It was at this point that an Israel tank was struck by Hezbollah fighters, which resulted in the capture of two Israeli soldiers and the death of six.
July 25th, 2006 at 4:24 pm"You did just say that their commander in chief is a “rogue†which would then make your entire military rogue."
That doesn't follow. As long as our soldiers fight under the UCMJ, they are not 'rogues.' Is the Pentagon full of war criminals? YOU'RE DAMN SKIPPY.
"Finally, your statement that “UNLESS YOU, PERSONALLY, HAVE SUFFERED A DIRECT LOSS, YOU AREN’T A VICTIM†is the most short sighted and ignorant statement possible. Your lack of intelligence and humanity is despicable.: --Comment by Humanist
HILARIOUS. You dress yourself up in the losses of others, to make yourself feel JUSTIFIED. You don't have the humility to understand the difference.
July 25th, 2006 at 4:25 pmI thought we were supposed to be bringing democracy to Iraq not civil war?
July 25th, 2006 at 4:30 pm#60 Very interesting! I have read that too and am inclined to believe it. Any links?
July 25th, 2006 at 4:30 pmNOBEL peace laureate Betty Williams displayed a flash of her feisty Irish spirit yesterday, lashing out at US President George W.Bush during a speech to hundreds of schoolchildren.
Campaigning on the rights of young people at the Earth Dialogues forum, being held in Brisbane, Ms Williams spoke passionately about the deaths of innocent children during wartime, particularly in the Middle East, and lambasted Mr Bush.
"I have a very hard time with this word 'non-violence', because I don't believe that I am non-violent," said Ms Williams, 64.
"Right now, I would love to kill George Bush." Her young audience at the Brisbane City Hall clapped and cheered.
"I don't know how I ever got a Nobel Peace Prize, because when I see children die the anger in me is just beyond belief. It's our duty as human beings, whatever age we are, to become the protectors of human life."
I imagine that most people would concur with her!
July 25th, 2006 at 4:34 pm#56-Paul,
The Earth is by all accounts the most perfect “thing†that we have been able to study, yes. Sorry you do not see the perfection and beauty around you. You are missing countless wondrous things.
And yes, I do hold you responsible for your actions and the actions of your agents. For you to run from that responsibility is cowardly.
Also, I am willing to sacrifice everything for my beliefs, aren’t you? After all, if you do not stand up for what you believe then you are but an empty shell.
Finally, I do not think nor have I ever said that I was better than anyone here. I am no smarter nor more pious. I am not the issue, the truth is the issue. Waste no time seeking my “faults†to help you cope with your insecurities, pursue the truth and eliminate your insecurities.
May peace be with us all.
July 25th, 2006 at 4:34 pm"A civil war is progress, because it means it’s no longer a war against us."
Colbert's been saying that for MONTHS.
July 25th, 2006 at 4:39 pmDick is a Dick. Our troops should have never went into Iraq to begin with . We need them more now for places like Iran , North Korea , and the current terrorist that are bombing Isreal !
July 25th, 2006 at 4:47 pmI 'm begining to think we are in Iraq for the Oil . Dick Morris does not know that he is talking about but there probably are a lot of dumb people out there that are going to believe everything he says just like all the dumb people that voted for the moron president that made a fool of himself at the G8 summit .
So according to Mr. Morris' logic, civil war would have been an intermediate strategic objective of our invasion all along, a "step forward" and not a calamity for Iraq. You know, "First we kill Iraqis, then Iraqis kill Iraqis, then we win."
So my question is, shouldn't the president be trumpeting this civil war instead of denying it? America could use such a boost to its morale, and it is ungracious of our president not to let us know how much better things are getting, what an important corner we've turned. I know the president doesn't pay attention to polls (unless they're in his favor), but I should think he would gain great stature and comfort from knowing what real progress we're making, and a bump in the polls would take a lot of heat off his party.
I dunno. That sounds unconvincing even to me. I go with "choice number 2:" Mr. Morris is just as full of shit as our prez.
Sorry Mr. Morris. Maybe you should just sit quietly in a corner until this thing's over. It's the only way you will appear to have a lick of sense.
July 25th, 2006 at 4:49 pmListen to this we have all been lied to About Isreals reason for war
These sources contend that Israel sent a commando force into southern Lebanon and was subsequently attacked by Hezbollah near the village of Aitaa al-Chaab, well inside Lebanon’s southern territory. It was at this point that an Israel tank was struck by Hezbollah fighters, which resulted in the capture of two Israeli soldiers and the death of six.
SOURCE Kidnapped in Israel or Captured in Lebanon?
It seems we have all been lied too AGAIN
July 25th, 2006 at 4:49 pmHumanist, you are a smart ass. We dont need to "seek your faults" but the faults of EVERY American are fair game? EVERY American is equally resposible? Do you claim the faults of your homeland? Do you claim the faults of everyone on the "3rd rock from the sun?" At least some of us here are trying to do something about the horrors in this world. I think you need to stop attacking the people fighting for progress, get off your high horse, and DO something with yourself. Why are you so willing to blame all Americans for the problems of the world without you, yourself, admitting where you are from? Because one is born in America, they are a terrorist? Its all too simple for you. GOD bless the children of Iraq, Lebanon, Israel, Afghanistan, and America...and whatever bullshit country you come from too...Asshole
July 25th, 2006 at 4:51 pmHilarious, 'Humanist.' If you think your series of delusions are actually adequate, that's fine with me.
• "while you yourself live on the third rock from the sun, perfect in every way."
"The Earth is by all accounts the most perfect “thing†that we have been able to study, yes. Sorry you do not see the perfection and beauty around you. You are missing countless wondrous things."
While YOU yourself are ... perfect in every way. Your reading skills somehow leave the self-criticism out of the equation. How convenient!
"And yes, I do hold you responsible for your actions and the actions of your agents. For you to run from that responsibility is cowardly."
Because you need to have an exaggerated view of your own purity.
• "Did you ever make any kind of sacrifice for your beliefs?"
"Also, I am willing to sacrifice everything for my beliefs, aren’t you? After all, if you do not stand up for what you believe then you are but an empty shell."
Total failure to respond to a direct question. DID YOU EVER MAKE A SACRIFICE, not 'are you willing to make a sacrifice.' Again, you fail to read because you need to feel special. With no effort, at that.
"Finally, I do not think nor have I ever said that I was better than anyone here. I am no smarter nor more pious."
You are not more pious? Do you announce: "May peace be with us all" when you flush your toilet?
"I am not the issue,"
No, YOU are never the issue. You are perfect, even without doing anything. You dress yourself up in the losses of others, blame the innocent, and then pat yourself on the back for wishing everyone you just SLANDERED a peace you have never had to give one thing up for. Perfect! Easy! And so, so pure.
July 25th, 2006 at 4:57 pmHumanist, your very enlightened and can do much good in questioning truths,
I agree sometimes we have to make people realise certain truths,
I am as angry as you too,
But we need to move onto new ground,
Most people in here are the good americans ( liberal minded intelligent folks )
I had an offal day at work in the slaughter house
But I know you can come up with answers and not questions
what do you think of 68 # the new lies I think its true makes sense the tank bit read the link with it
July 25th, 2006 at 4:59 pm#68 Time Capsule
NPR initially reported it that way so I was surprised the next day to hear all of the Mainstream Media outlets reporting the opposite without question. Its kinda freaky if you ask me, but I guess we shouldn't be all that surprised at this point, unfortunately.
July 25th, 2006 at 5:10 pm#69-america,
Your faults do not concern me, except when they result in harm being perpetrated upon others. You run from your responsibility as a member of your society but take advantage of all of its benefits. And then you expect pity from the world? I really don’t see how that is a reasonable expectation and am surprised that you do.
Every American – man, woman, and child – are responsible for the actions of your representative government. Do you not understand that concept? It is what differentiates you from a dictatorship, or a monarchy. You sing about being the “land of the free and home of the braveâ€. It is apparent that the current batch of Americans require that a new line be added at the end, it should say: “as long as it is convenient and does not cause me to miss my favorite television show or give up any of my ostentatious luxuriesâ€.
And finally, I will point out the blatant hypocrisy that you act too obtuse to see. You cannot say “God bless the children of Iraq†in one breath, and then in the next breath tell your military to kill them. I suspect your god would see through that “bullshit†as well.
May peace be with us all.
July 25th, 2006 at 5:10 pmWas 'The Dickster' able to work into the conversation that the civil war in Iraq is obviously the fault of Bill and/or Hillary Clinton?
July 25th, 2006 at 5:14 pmComment by Baghdad Bob — July 25, 2006 @ 1:58 pm
Right. Fifty something Ed Schultz doesn't know Israeli history...
Ed Schultz tows the line for Democratic heavy weights who come on his show.
Throw back the little ones, pan fry the big ones...
July 25th, 2006 at 5:20 pmYou are a nice human being, dick.
July 25th, 2006 at 5:24 pmOh, FINALLY the delusion comes out:
"Every American – man, woman, and child – are responsible for the actions of your representative government." -- Humanist
What makes you think we have a representative government? We're in the middle of a COUP. We haven't had a legal election since 1999.
No wonder you are so clueless. You haven't got a clue!
Here's the words that millions of us have marched under for six long years:
"Not In Our Name!"
But make sure you pat yourself on the back while you're slandering the resistance.
July 25th, 2006 at 5:25 pmO'Liely, ever the propagandist, snuck in the Rove spin line "after Zarqawi was killed, the insurgency fell down". WTF? It seems to be rolling right along. Well, that's what Goebbels said was rule 101: lie big. And Morris is just slimey, not worthy of comment.
July 25th, 2006 at 5:31 pmDick. Boy did his parents get that one right.
Unfortunately, that was all they got right...
July 25th, 2006 at 5:36 pmDo either of these idiots still have a functioing brain cell?
July 25th, 2006 at 5:38 pmIf so; then lend it to the asses of evil in D.C.
"Every American – man, woman, and child – are responsible for the actions of your representative government. Do you not understand that concept?" Humanist
This same question was presented to you last week asking if you pay taxes and your response was a citizen of the earth. You would probably garnish more respect with your posts if you would answer direct questions.
July 25th, 2006 at 5:45 pmDixie Morris - nothing sadder than an old queen . . .
July 25th, 2006 at 5:47 pm#71-Time,
I agree that most people in here either strive to be, or have the potential to be, “good Americansâ€. But, here’s the problem. As was stated by someone much wiser than I – “Evil prospers when good men do nothingâ€. I am virtually certain that everyone here will agree that evil is definitely prospering in the USA right now. By extension, then, it can be said without offset that the good Americans are doing nothing. Many of course are going to fall out of their chair and say “but I blog†or “I write my corrupt congressperson†or “I protest†or “I donate to whoeverâ€, but you cannot argue the logic. Sure, all those things are “something†but they are obviously “nothing†in the face of the evil that confronts you. Americans need to start doing SOMETHING!
In regard to the conspiracy of what has led to the murders occurring in the Fertile Crescent, I am already certain that information being put up in its defense is bogus. But that is a goose not worth chasing as it only distracts from the focus on the truth. That truth being that people are being murdered, that it is heinous, and that it needs to stop.
Unfortunately, Americans have lost any perceived “higher moral ground†upon which to facilitate the peace there. I’m sorry, but that’s the truth.
Please, do all that you can to stop the killing occurring in your name.
May peace be with us all
July 25th, 2006 at 5:48 pm#77-Paul,
No, you have not experience a coup. Although it does seem that you've given up. So, in that case, it would be more accurate to say that you have surrendered your country and all that it stood for.
I'm sure that your founding fathers would be proud of you.
Peace.
July 25th, 2006 at 5:53 pmHumanist, This thread is directed at the emerging civil war in Iraq and a pundits spin on it being a "good thing". The vast majority of the deaths occuring are at the hands of Iraqis against Iraqis. The "something" that should be done now centers itself around our involvement in Iraq. Do we stay at current levels, increase or decrease? What would you say bring about the largest benefit to the Iraqi people at this time?
And your country hasn't done any atrocities? That's right, you're a citizen of the earth.
July 25th, 2006 at 5:58 pm#85-anamerican,
That's right I am a citizen of Earth, aren't you? You see, I do not allow "nationalities" to then give me a false justification to disregard human life. An Iraqi life is just as valuable as an American life, or a Chinese life, or a African life, or a Chilean life, etc... I know the concept is foreign to you, but I truly hope that you can open your eyes and expand your mind to see that truth. It will only benefit you.
You asked what the USA needs to do to "fix" Iraq, it's quite simple actually. Put down your arms and pick up hammers and saws and rebuild whatever they ask you to. Start tending to all the injuries that you have caused. Give them back their land and their resources. Get out of their government. Help the people recover. DO NOT act as police. Pay for all damages and repairs. Apologize to each and every Iraqi that is still alive. Profess to the world your mistake and ask forgiveness.
See, very simple and it would work perfectly.
May peace be with us all.
July 25th, 2006 at 6:09 pm86. Once again you find it impossible to answer direct questions but fine. Using your logic then we should remove all troop in Iraq (they are humans too) and give money to who? and how much? is it infinite to account for the inhumanity that has been caused by us? Following that strain I'm sure you'll agree that some money should be withheld for the direct attacks against US soldier (they are human remember).
Now paying for all damages and repairs sounds like a very materialistic thing coming from you. Where do those monies come from? Is the place in which you physically reside (i.e where your bed is) have anything to do with Iraq? Do you pay taxes?
July 25th, 2006 at 6:26 pm"No, you have not experience a coup."
And 'Humanist' said so -- no argument needed!
"Although it does seem that you’ve given up."
As I stich up my boots for the twice weekly protest I've been doing for five years, I salute you with my middle finger, as you deserve.
"So, in that case, it would be more accurate to say that you have surrendered your country and all that it stood for."
Since you only orbit the earth in an undisclosed location, can we presume you are in fact Dick the Dick Cheney?
"I’m sure that your founding fathers would be proud of you.
Peace." -- 'Humanist'
You don't actually wish peace. You are just a ploy dressed inside a monkey's skin who has learned to mimic the word 'peace' in order to feel good about itself.
July 25th, 2006 at 6:31 pm#83: um, "A leads to B" does not mean that if B exists A must therefore exist. Just because evil seems to be around does not imply good (wo)men are doing nothing.
There is also a time lag to that nagging thing called reality. The effects of good works may take time to bear fruit.
July 25th, 2006 at 6:36 pm#88-anamerican,
Funding has not been an issue in your destruction of Iraq, it should also not be an issue in the repair of Iraq. That's a false argument and totally bogus logic. Would you really refrain from doing the "right" thing because it is going to have a cost? I mean, are you implying that your soul has a material price? You seem much smarter than that. Cost in dollars, in this case, is not an issue.
And no, I did not say for you to remove your troops, I said put down your arms and pick up the tools of construction. You can use your troops for that or you can go yourself, what does it matter? Also, how is paying for the damage and repairs required materialistic? Do you expect the Iraqis to pay for what you've done? There's no materialism in my statement, only pure logic.
Iraq is a neighborhood on the planet Earth, yes. Therefore, where I live has to do with Iraq, and my Iraqi brothers and sisters. Just as it has to do with the USA, and my American brothers and sisters.
Peace.
July 25th, 2006 at 6:45 pmWell, 'Humanist,' you turn out to be just a troll afterall.
Won't mention where you're from, won't answer any direct questions, refuse to read replies, and mouth the most feeble sorts of vague nonsense in between slandering people actually resisting a fascist takeover of America.
So, have my middle finger in your face once again -- you deserve it.
July 25th, 2006 at 6:54 pm#89-Paul,
Peace is my only goal in regard to relations between people, yes. I have not advocated anything but peace. The fact that my wishing you, and all people, peace is something that you find offensive, well, that’s a sad testament to your state of mind. I highly recommend that you address that because you will never find peace if you do not believe in it.
May peace be with us all.
July 25th, 2006 at 6:57 pm#94-Paul,
If holding your middle finger in my face then causes you to take your other finger off of the trigger, please hold it in my face continually.
Peace.
July 25th, 2006 at 7:02 pmDick Morris thinks "fisting" is progressive sex...
...especially when he's on the receiving end...
July 25th, 2006 at 7:07 pmThese sources contend that Israel sent a commando force into southern Lebanon and was subsequently attacked by Hezbollah near the village of Aitaa al-Chaab, well inside Lebanon’s southern territory. It was at this point that an Israel tank was struck by Hezbollah fighters, which resulted in the capture of two Israeli soldiers and the death of six.
Comment by Time Capsule #68
Time,
Within the world community (UN) it is a well known fact that Israel has NEVER REALLY left southern Lebanon...
...Israeli military have mounted incursions into Lebanon for years, capturing and killing Lebanese citizens the Israelis deem "terrorists...
...Israelis have ignored more UN Resolutions than Iraq, Iran and Syria put together...
...what has been TRULY disturbing (from the Jewish-controlled media) is their (media's) allowing the mass murdering Zionists...
...to perpetuate the lie that Hezbollah's having launched Kytusha rockets over an extended period of time (at will) along with the capture of the two Israeli commandos...
...is also "justification" for the mass murder being perpetrated against the Lebanese people...
...and to show us all how STUPID they are...
...the inbred, al Cracker (anti)Christian Evangelicals support Israel's murderous campaign against?
...their so-called Christian brothers and sisters in Lebanon!
...the Jews are murdering Christians...
...and the dumba*s (un)American al Cracker antiChristian TREASONOUS inbred Bushites are cheering them on...
July 25th, 2006 at 7:22 pmWhen the rest of the world see this jerkweeds cheering on the administration, it's no wonder they see us as a bunch of incompetent, warmongering idiots.
July 25th, 2006 at 7:28 pmI see Dick Morris has gotten fatter and fatter, feasting upon his own bilious stupidity. Of course, in a world as absurd as this one, a bleeping jackass like him will go far. Makes you want to be abducted by aliens and hope to be taken somewhere better than this idiotic world.
July 25th, 2006 at 7:41 pmDick Morris is a putrid human being, who loves to suck the toes of prostitutes, so he can shut up his damn cesspool yapper!
Comment by Jay Randal — July 25, 2006 @ 1:55 pm
Regardless of the other rotten things Dick Morris has done, toe-sucking is not one of them. Which doesn't mean I advocate sucking Dick Moriss' toes! But an attractive female, prostitue or otherwise? Ab-so-lute-ly. Yum.
July 25th, 2006 at 7:44 pmdick morris is a prostitute himself, whoring out to the highest bidder no matter what the ideology. he also wants condaleeza racial token to be the republican nominee in 2008.
July 25th, 2006 at 7:59 pmahh, humanist, still masquerading here.
where in the hell do you live, humanist? as far as i'm concerned you have no credibility whatsoever until you answer that simple question.
don't come here and criticize americans when you're too much of a coward to say where it is you live. so get on with it -- tell the truth or get lost.
July 25th, 2006 at 8:02 pm#105-Rex,
I have answered that question far too many times, but will do so for you once again. I live on the third planet from the sun in our solar system, Earth. It is the only planet in our solar system that is inhabitable by humans so I feel comfortable in the assumption that we live in the same "place".
You exhibit much hostility, Rex, and besides such being rude, it is also wholly unwarranted. If you have difficulties with the truths that I present, challenge them specifically and I will be happy to address your questions with you.
May peace be with us all.
July 25th, 2006 at 8:12 pmDoes Morris REALLY suck the toes of hookers? I must have missed that one, as I don't ALWAYS catch the news on tv/radio/paper/net. If so, LOL.
July 25th, 2006 at 8:20 pmthat is a bullshit answer humanist.
if that's your answer, then you are worse than those you criticize. it takes no courage whatsoever to hide behind a computer as a nameless antagonist and hurl vehemence (which you have done, so don't deny it). you hide behind your anonymity while attacking america specifically. the people you accuse have a right to know where the accusations are coming from.
i have answered your posts previously, even to the point of defending you. but there is no point to that as long as you continue to criticize americans while keeping your nationality a secret. divulge the information -- the name of a country will suffice -- or you will not get civility from me.
quit hiding behind a screen name and tell everyone what country you live in. otherwise you prove your cowardice.
if can't do that at the very least, then get lost.
July 25th, 2006 at 8:39 pmMorris has lost his mind.
July 25th, 2006 at 8:55 pmHumanist here's a truth for you. You speak in abstracts and avoid the details that (like it or not) the world moves with and reacts to. The people who post here are exchanging ideas, opinions and frustrations. Yours are no different than the many others. Another truth for you. You don't add much to these posts.
July 25th, 2006 at 9:08 pmActually Morris lost his mind a long time ago -- now it is just readily apparent. That's why he is appearing on BO's show. Two has-been blowhards whose fans haven't realized it yet.
July 25th, 2006 at 9:12 pm#108-Rex,
I have answered truthfully, you just refuse to accept the truth. Perhaps I can approach it a different way. I live in Iraq, and Sweden, and Bosnia, and Canada, and France, and Chile, and Australia, and Iran, and the United States, and Germany, and Mexico, and Finland, and Venezuela, and Israel, and Austria, and Greenland, and Japan. Shall I go on? Just because you limit yourself to one small section of the earth does not mean that I have to, nor does it mean that it is correct. The electrons of my matter are identical to the electrons in your matter. They are so indistinguishable that some even postulate that they are actually the same electron, just in different places in the space time continuum. But let's not dive into quantum physics right now as that would definitely be considered to be "off topic".
As far as me "hiding" from anything, nothing could be further from the truth. Although, your interest in me personally causes me to think that perhaps you should be surfing one of the net dating services so as to fulfill your desire to "meet" someone.
So, once again, if you have a challenge to any of the truths that I communicate, feel free to address such specifically and I will be more than happy to answer your questions or clear up any confusion.
May peace be with us all.
July 25th, 2006 at 9:12 pm#110-anamerican,
Name an "abstract" and I will clarify for you.
Also, I respectfully disagree that I add nothing to "these posts". I am offering the truth that many hide from and far too many lack the courage to face. You, either directly or by proxy, are murdering people. You are killing and maiming children. You are raping and extinguishing women, and you are torturing and exterminating men. Challenge any of those truths, but I will not let you ignore them, no.
One further truth, shirking your responsibilities does not relieve you from the responsibilities.
Peace.
July 25th, 2006 at 9:19 pmhumanist...why dont YOU go to iraq to protect the women and children? Or is that just another place on your "3rd planet from the sun" Aren't you shirking your responsibilities?
July 25th, 2006 at 9:33 pmHumanist, you use the word truth many times. I would like you to answer simple questions using the 2nd definition listed below.
Truth
1 a archaic : FIDELITY, CONSTANCY b : sincerity in action, character, and utterance
2 a (1) : the state of being the case : FACT (2) : the body of real things, events, and facts : ACTUALITY
Do you pay taxes? has your government (the one's you pay taxes to) ever been involved in Iraq or any other war that has ever been waged? I could ask more but this will suffice. Answer with facts that will be held as truth.
July 25th, 2006 at 9:49 pmI don't take the word of any toe-sucker, unless he's sucking my toes.
July 25th, 2006 at 10:06 pmMorris has not been invited to suck my toes, BTW.
July 25th, 2006 at 10:06 pmhumanist,
don't even begin to talk about courage, you fraud. courage is a word reserved for better people than you. a courageous person wouldn't hide behind your bogus "i'm from everywhere" canard of an answer. i don't limit myself to any "small corner" of anything, something you should know well from our prior discussions. i have been more than accomodating to you, and all you've been is evasive. state your nationality, or get lost.
this bullshit you spew overlooks one fact - when a person like you attempts to "tell the truth", people won't accept your "truth" unless you're honest about everything, especially basic background information that's relevant, given the nature of your comments. you're worse than dick cheney, commenting from an undisclosed location.
attempting to claim some moral superiority as an anonymous critic is a sham. your anonymous self-aggrandizement is indicative of a person with no honor. your statements have no validity and carry no weight. you have no credibility to attack americans as an outsider if you don't reveal where you're from. as far as i'm concerned, you're just a floating voice from nowhere that no one wants to listen to, so come clean, or get lost.
quit being a coward and just say what country you live in. personally i think you're an american acting like a fake foreigner to be disingenuous. so come clean with it, or go crawl back under the rock where you live.
July 25th, 2006 at 10:13 pmworse than dick cheney. Ouch.
July 25th, 2006 at 10:21 pmIsn't that the craziest thing you have ever heard? This guy must be a Psychopathic Personality because he doesn't understand what is coming out of his mouth.
July 25th, 2006 at 10:24 pmworse than dick cheney. Ouch
July 25th, 2006 at 10:25 pmMorris sold his soul to Fox a long time ago. He's given a script (or at least bullet points) and told to run with it.
July 25th, 2006 at 10:27 pmyes, humanist fails to understand that the point, which is 'america is making enemies abroad with its current foreign policy', dies a lonely death as soon as the person making the point is discredited. and to make those claims and then say "i'm from nowhere, i'm from everywhere, hell, i'm a little magic fairy" leave you with ZERO CREDIBILITY.
on the other hand, as an american living in australia, i can say that american prestige IS being irreparably damaged. i base this on conversations i've had with people from australia, the uk, france, germany, denmark, the czech republic, malaysia, south korea, and more. plus i see the news coverage without the american filter. just my saying it doesn't give it weight; it's the fact that i can prove that i live in another country and see it firsthand.
humanist has proven nothing. humanist apparently likes to type pretty little sentences and read them back to itself, over and over again, transfixed by it's own supposed brilliance.
what humanist doesn't realize is that the rest of us here think it is a joke.
July 25th, 2006 at 10:32 pmto get back to the thread, the civil war is because of us. Although it is not a good thing. I agree that the US standing in the world is damaged. A narrow minded ideology hijacked this country and used fear to push it's own agenda. There is hope internally and I am always hopeful.
July 25th, 2006 at 10:42 pmyes, and people like dick morris, who have consistently proven that he values his own interests over everyone else's (especially the common good), only make the problem worse. these inside the beltway "consultants" play both sides fo the political fence for their own profit, and morris especially is guilty of regularly feeding the polarization of america. he games the system by stoking the partisan fires.
it benefits him and his political class. the man's never done an honest day's work in his life.
July 25th, 2006 at 10:51 pmA year or two ago Dick wrote a book called "Off with their Heads", I think if you cut Dicks head off he would just grow a new one.
July 25th, 2006 at 11:03 pmMorris must be very bitter. Did he get turned down by Hillary? How much respect do you have for someone who jumps sides so completely (Hello Zel Miller).
July 25th, 2006 at 11:12 pmWow! Point index finger in direction of ear. Twirl.
July 26th, 2006 at 12:13 am#15--The correct word is 'sordid', not 'sorted." Please remember that there are dictionaries available online!
July 26th, 2006 at 12:18 amO'Reilly actually made sense in the exchange with Morris...
July 26th, 2006 at 12:18 amI ‘m begining to think we are in Iraq for the Oil .
Comment by george — July 25, 2006 @ 4:47 pm
Oh, youre kidding me.
July 26th, 2006 at 1:12 amWe should not heap scorn on poor wretches like Mr. Morris and George Bush. The former is bound for hell because he violated the commandment "thou shall not covet thy neighbors wife". The latter for violation of the commandments "thou shall not kill" and "bearing false witness". Sadly, the legacy of these men is that they are fated for the bowels of hell.
The only real question now is whether other unfortunately misguided Christians will join them in their descent. Those on the Christian left must start a movement for a national prayer day for these and other members of the Republican party, who are otherwise destined to descend directly into Hell. Let start a national prayer dialog that urges them to repent their evil ways and that may help others turn away from a similar fate before it is too late.
July 26th, 2006 at 2:56 amYes, it's true that Dick Morris was filmed by a press photographer sucking the toes of a prostitute, on the balcony of his hotel room, in Washington, DC, when Clinton was president! Dick's fetish is toe sucking for real! He just recently went to Mexico to help rig the election for Calderon, so he probably sucked a few hooker toes there too > lol.
July 26th, 2006 at 3:19 am[...] See, when Godzilla and Rodan start wailing on each other, it’s really a break for Tokyo. [...]
July 26th, 2006 at 5:10 amMaybe now would be a good time for BushCo to take another look at their plan for "as the Iraqi's 'stand up', we will 'stand down.'" because if the Iraqi's are fighting each other now, I just don't see how that is going to work. Is there a 'Plan B'? BushCo has been awfully quiet on the subject. Or is 'stay the course' all they have?
July 26th, 2006 at 6:43 am[...] More proof that conservative ‘pundits’ are morons: “Civil War is Progress!” The real kicker? It’s progress because “They’re attacking each other and not attacking us.” 0_o I definitely think they’re scraping the bottom of the barrell here…but then again, they are used to that. [...]
July 26th, 2006 at 8:16 amWhen will these evil shits die???!?!?! Morris, O'Reilly, Hannnity, Cheney, Bush, the whole evil nasty vermin. How? When? How much more of these goddamn idiots can the world stomach?
July 26th, 2006 at 8:56 amThe reputation of the United States is in the toilet where it will be for another generation. The whole world, except for Israel, hates us, and with good reason. WE are the evil empire.
July 26th, 2006 at 9:02 amSo now he's sucking the toes of the neo-cons!
July 26th, 2006 at 12:17 pmYour choice to ignore your responsibilities and then sit around gruffly barking at passersby is just that, your choice. It is unfortunate for you that you do not believe that the Iraqi children deserve better than to be murdered by your military, and by extension, you.
May peace be with us all.
Comment by Humanist — July 25, 2006 @ 3:34 pm
I am frequently moved by the words you write, and occasionally angered at your broad-brush condemnation of ALL Americans, including those of us who fight against the policies of this country which result in bloodshed and misery. But I simply must point out that many of the Iraqi children's deaths today are the result of suicide bombings and shootings by other Iraqis...Sunni and Shia. Where is your condemnation of them? Children are dying in both Israel and Lebanon today, due to the actions of leaders in both nations. But I've seen you condemn ONLY Israel. I condemn BOTH.
July 26th, 2006 at 1:50 pmWow! So this is where all the moonbats hang out! Saddam killed hundreds of thousands of his own people with no regard to age or sex. He jailed and tortured children on a regular basis. Getting rid oof him was evil? Or was Saddams actions all lies by the Evil president Bush? If you saw someone beating a child to death across the street would you just keep on walking because it was none of your business? What is the difference between helping that child and stopping a murderous tyrant when you have the means to do so.
A true humanist with his head out of the sand
January 23rd, 2007 at 1:41 pm