VIDEO: Protester Disrupts Bolton Hearing
By on Jul 27th, 2006 at 11:14 am
VIDEO: Protester Disrupts Bolton Hearing
Sixty percent of Americans believe the country is on the wrong track. The widespread discontent is popping up at high-profile political events. Yesterday, a protester interrupted the Iraqi Prime Minister’s speech to Congress. Today, a protester disrupted U.N. Ambassador John Bolton’s confirmation hearing. Watch it:
Transcript:
I have no representation on this panel or in this senate. I’m strongly opposed to the nomination of this man John Bolton as U.N. ambassador. He is a discredit to the United States. He is not a legitimate public representative of the United States. He should not go to the U.N. He is not representing our best interests. The man will only…
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I love the Faux News tagline “Protesters try to disrupt senate hearing.” Given that they went into immediate recess, I would say that this woman was successful at disrupting the hearing!
July 27th, 2006 at 11:17 amWe need more public displays of dissent.
July 27th, 2006 at 11:22 amProtestors – - Plural? It was one woman. Are they anticipating more or is this more media hyperbole.
July 27th, 2006 at 11:30 amMore of the same.
July 27th, 2006 at 11:35 amMore of the same.
Comment by Chase — July 27, 2006 @ 11:35 am
Amen to that brother!!!
July 27th, 2006 at 11:40 amAt least somebody’s got some balls!
July 27th, 2006 at 11:41 amIndeed. We need much more of the same.
Protesters need to keep the pressure on the Emperor and his Evil Cabal.
July 27th, 2006 at 11:41 amCNN reports that the hearing was interrupted twice by protesters.
July 27th, 2006 at 11:41 am“Try” to disrupt? It’s like like she tried to sit up but was glued to her chair, and tried to open her mouth but no sound came out. She DID stand up. She DID make noise, and people DID look at her. Why does Fox make such BS headlines? “TRY” to interrupt? Give me a break Fox. I know you would like to think she only TRYED. But you are disproving your own headline by airing the footage in which we see that she succeeds in disrupting the hearing..
July 27th, 2006 at 11:42 amI think that we need to make it legal to voice your opinion about such things, and make it illeagal to drag people out.
We could also regulate it so that hearings and conferences wouldn’t be disrupted.
It would be like ball games, where you can raise your sign to the TV camera (your voice in this case) in between breaks. so basically, every time someone’s time expires, the crowd gets a minute or two to voice it’s opinion.
July 27th, 2006 at 11:43 am#10 – Think that through. You would have pandemonium when people from both sides stood up and started yelling their opinions.
Silly idea.
If you wanna hold a sign, yell your opinion, whatever, do so in an appropriate setting.
July 27th, 2006 at 11:46 amSen. Voinovich’s Washington office number is (202)224-3353
July 27th, 2006 at 11:48 amtell Sen. Voinovich he was right about John Bolton BEFORE he did his cowardly lion impression and endorsed Bolton
tell Sen. Voinovich that the Bolton that was appointed by Bush acted in a way to curry favor with the Senate and the Bolton confirmed by the Senate will be the Bolton you, Senator Voinovich, objected to
tell Sen. Voinovich America deserves better
That video looked like it came from somewhere like China.
July 27th, 2006 at 11:48 amIf you wanna hold a sign, yell your opinion, whatever, do so in an appropriate setting.
Hey Chase, do you not realize you live in AMERICA!
July 27th, 2006 at 11:50 amthere’s an appropiate setting for calling for a “bunker busting” bomb to be dropped on the U.N.?
July 27th, 2006 at 11:51 amLOL Chase, check out the British Parliment, if you want to see yelling and screaming in action. the US it too reserved sometimes. I like how you are basically saying that any opposition to the president, should not be voiced as any where near the president, or at any time that he may actually see it.
July 27th, 2006 at 11:55 amHey Chase, do you not realize you live in AMERICA!
Sure I do. I just think events like speeches, hearings, etc. are deserving of decorum and shouldn’t be interrupted by selfish individuals who want to spout off their views. The attendees around her were there to witness the hearing, to hear Amb Bolton provide answers to probing questions, not to hear some amateur spout off at the mouth.
She has a right to her opinion, and she has a right to voice it (a right, I might add, I would be willing to defend with my life) but she has no right to be disruptive.
July 27th, 2006 at 11:56 amThe only wonder is how she got into the hearings in the first place.
If only more Dems had the courage she displayed today.
July 27th, 2006 at 11:56 amYou dumbasses don’t get it. This doesn’t help your cause – it hurts it. These shennigans cost you in 2004 and they could cost you again.
A little detail the anti-war left loves to leave out in their quest to hijack the Democratic Party from the mainstream is that you CANNOT win.
You didn’t learn in 1972 when Nixon CRUSHED McGovernites and took 49 states. AND over 30 years later, Bush made history against a more “moderate” candidate, but one who appealed to the anti-war faction nonetheless. Now, in what should be a slam dunk for Democrats in 2006, you’re sending out these fools to hurt your cause even more.
Bolten will be confirmed and you need to deal with that. You should be focusing on issues you can win on – NOT making asses of yourselves.
July 27th, 2006 at 11:56 am#16 – That’s their institution, not ours. Look at parliaments around the world. Some erupt into open violence. Do you advocate that? I doubt it.
I’m not saying the President shouldn’t hear opposition. I’m saying that people should respect decorum and not interrupt in this fashion.
July 27th, 2006 at 11:57 amWhy doesnt anybody stand up and shout WITH HER ?
July 27th, 2006 at 11:59 amA little detail the anti-war left loves to leave out in their quest to hijack the Democratic Party from the mainstream is that you CANNOT win.
A new poll has Dems over Repubs in 50 top house races by a wide margin. We’re going to win, and we’re going to win big BABY!
July 27th, 2006 at 12:01 pmLooks like we should be offering a discount on Ballistic Lobotomy to these fine ladies.
July 27th, 2006 at 12:02 pmThink about what the Sharia would dictate for thier displays of disobedience.
You’d be on your kness(nothing new) in a soccer stadium trying to make peace with your dear and fluffy maker, right before they shot you in the head.
Keep being an advocate for that and you just may get your pathetic little wish.
Chase,
July 27th, 2006 at 12:03 pmLook at the sixties, bro. Protests often do not accomplish desired results WITHOUT being disruptive. The word, ‘protest’, does not connotate calm, respectful discourse. Look it up.
The Female Sex has taken up where the Founding Fathers left things off. They are certainly showing the guys up (guys in starched shirts with folded hands) with their show of public display in the form of protest. Women no longer sit at the back of the bus but jump at the first chance to show their outrage over the circus they are witnessing.
July 27th, 2006 at 12:03 pmThe Women should be sitting on Capitol Hill instead of the lap dogs that are currently there. “VOTE WOMEN” next election cycle and policy will surely change.
Bolten will be confirmed and you need to deal with that. You should be focusing on issues you can win on – NOT making asses of yourselves.
Comment by Suck the Baby’s Skull Out — July 27, 2006 @ 11:56 am
listen to this ^^ ASSHOLE !
Thank you very much for the stategy session MR. Neocon.
Enjoy thanksgivinng and Xmas with a Democratic majority in the House.
Nancy Pelosi will make “assess” out of everyone in the white house…
enjoy the subpoenas
July 27th, 2006 at 12:04 pm#24 – Ah, harkening back to the Vietnam Era. I love that one.
July 27th, 2006 at 12:04 pmChase,
July 27th, 2006 at 12:05 pmYou obviously learned NOTHING from that era, that’s why I bring it up. We also know you’re a pinko-commie, wanna-be.
We also know you’re a pinko-commie, wanna-be.
How you know that?
My favorite quote about the 60’s, from Shelby Steele:
Easily the most accurate description I’ve read yet.
July 27th, 2006 at 12:08 pmVietnam…an era when people cared enough about the shitty state of their government and did something about it, didn’t they. And it worked. I suspect you weren’t more than a gleam in your daddy’s eye back then, so I forgive your ignorance.
July 27th, 2006 at 12:08 pmAbsolutely, we need more people like her and the Freeway blogger.
This entire government is a hodge-podge of lies, deceptions, misdirections, and overwhelming incompetence. That’s the biggest secret they are desperate to hide, but unfortunately the incompetence is so blatant that the entire world has been seeing it and commenting on it for years.
We need to get rid of these assholes!
July 27th, 2006 at 12:09 pm#11: If you wanna hold a sign, yell your opinion, whatever, do so in an appropriate setting.
You mean, like a free speech zone?
July 27th, 2006 at 12:09 pmThis women was stating the truth the people in Iraq want the US to set a timetable for the troops to leave Iraq. We should of never went into Iraq in the first place. This was an illegal war as congress did not vote to go to war. We went into Iraq for OIL and make old Bushies croney richer.
July 27th, 2006 at 12:09 pmI’m not saying the President shouldn’t hear opposition. I’m saying that people should respect decorum and not interrupt in this fashion.
Comment by Chase — July 27, 2006 @ 11:57 am
Yeah! Like a 10×10 roped off “free speech” area guarded by local police a mile away from any dignitary where he or she is sure not to hear any dissent.
July 27th, 2006 at 12:10 pm“Bolton Hears a Boo”
July 27th, 2006 at 12:12 pm#29: An acknowledgment of wrong was an acknowledgment of wrong, and it brought a loss of moral authority–and thus, adult authority–despite the good it achieved.
So things would have been better off–we would have kept our “moral authority”–if we had rejected the Civil Rights movement and denied blacks the right to vote? What is it about this quote that you find so compelling?
July 27th, 2006 at 12:12 pm#19, you do realize that most Americans OPPOSE THE WAR, right? Not sure how that puts anti-war demonstrations outside the so-called “mainstream”. Frankly, it’s the neocons who are way out of line with “mainstream” America. The unholy alliance forged between actual conservatives and the Taliban Christians is unravelling before our eyes. The Republican base is eroding faster than a sand castle at high tide. Combine that with the failure of the neocon foreign policy machine and you have a completely dysfunctional Republican apparatus.
July 27th, 2006 at 12:12 pmLOL,
very nice viper, I see you are of the “if we don’t do what the president wants, then the terrorists will take over” crowd. I have asked before and not gotten an answer, how exactly would they invade our country and subvert our government? I don’t think they have the money, men, or the ability to try a straight invasion. Attacks can hurt witness september 11th, but they don’t change our life, or put us under sharia law. If you wish to be afraid go for it. I for one believe we can live our lives, fight those we need too, and continue our lifestyle, without going braindead in suppport of the incomptence evidenced in the white house and the republican party.
The neo-con agenda is a failure, and the American public will soon be cleaning house.
Chase, no I don’t want violence in congress, however a small disruption here is nothing compared to what happens in some governments.
July 27th, 2006 at 12:13 pmI’m not saying the President shouldn’t hear opposition. I’m saying that people should respect decorum and not interrupt in this fashion.
Comment by Chase — July 27, 2006 @ 11:57 am
Thats all very well and even laudable if there is a government in place that actually listens. However, that is NOT the case. Here you have a group of people insulated from reality, who seek out only congruent views and do everything in their power (and a number of things considered illegal) to squash dissent.
The group think this has
People should be up and yelling at every forum and at every opportunity. That is in fact one of the unique rights of the American people, it seems however that most of you just don’t care enough to exercise it:-(
July 27th, 2006 at 12:15 pmDecorum is important…what we need is a little more decorum of the Concord and Lexington variety, where the people stood by silently while the government stole their freedom…you remember that…and we should have more decorous speech of the Patrick Henry variety…”Give me liberty, or give me death!”…you probably remember that, too…Decorum be d****d, what we need is a direct way to get through to these fools who rule, not govern…
July 27th, 2006 at 12:16 pmI’m not saying the President shouldn’t hear opposition. I’m saying that people should respect decorum and not interrupt in this fashion.
Comment by Chase — July 27, 2006 @ 11:57 am
Thats all very well and even laudable if there is a government in place that actually listens. However, that is NOT the case. Here you have a group of people insulated from reality, who seek out only congruent views and do everything in their power (and a number of things considered illegal) to squash dissent.
The group think this has engendered has been incredibly detrimental to the US and the world at large. There may yet be a war that kills millions, and rest assured that the GOP will go down as being the responsible party. So in one sense even republicans have a vested interest in preventing the lunacy from unfolding.
People should be up and yelling at every forum and at every opportunity. That is in fact one of the unique rights of the American people, it seems however that most of you just don’t care enough to exercise it:-(
July 27th, 2006 at 12:19 pmScared Americans will drop Israel. This is what Bolton is up against and why he’s a dick.
Why don’t Palestinians just move somewhere where they are wanted? -Ed Schultz
July 27th, 2006 at 12:19 pm#20: I’m saying that people should respect decorum and not interrupt in this fashion.
You know, in principle I agree with you. Unfortunately, the government has effectively silenced dissent with free speech zones, the corporate control of the mainstream media, purging non-Republicans from Bush campaign rallies, and simply ignoring correspondence from citizens. This protestor is one symptom of the larger problem of there being inadequate ways for American people to communicate directly with their government to express their dissatisfaction. While I don’t think that actions such as the one by this protestor should be made legal, I approve of her actions and support them.
July 27th, 2006 at 12:20 pmSpeaking of decorum, Dick “F-You!” Cheney sure is oozing with it, ain’t he? And apparently Bush, who did nor said nothing to publicly admonish him after he had this rare “outburst” on the floor of Congress, apparently agrees with Cheney’s action.
July 27th, 2006 at 12:20 pmComment by Jim — July 27, 2006 @ 12:20 pm
Well put, Jim!
July 27th, 2006 at 12:23 pmviper1 sez…..”Think about what the Sharia would dictate for thier displays of disobedience.
You’d be on your kness(nothing new) in a soccer stadium trying to make peace with your dear and fluffy maker, right before they shot you in the head.”
wtf…..Keep being an advocate for that and you just may get your pathetic little wish.
yup, another hate America shitbag heard from
July 27th, 2006 at 12:23 pm#42: Scared Americans will drop Israel. This is what Bolton is up against and why he’s a dick.
What, exactly, do you mean by “dropping” Israel? And why does one have to be a “dick” to support Israel?
I don’t think scared Americans drop Israel. I think scared Americans elect incompetent people for our nation’s highest office and invade countries that didn’t attack us and that posed no threat to us.
July 27th, 2006 at 12:25 pmtheswan – problem is some women democrats are NOT WORTHY. Hillary Clinton, for example. Sorry, but she seems to wish she was in the good ol’ boys club – and she is closer and closer to becoming a real member.
July 27th, 2006 at 12:28 pmHere is an fascinating clip. This guys sounds just like every republican. I think they actually share talking points. Extremists are just all alike aren’t they?
http://www.memritv.org/Search.asp?ACT=S9&P1=1204#
July 27th, 2006 at 12:34 pmNow that’s a patriot talking to a room full of traitors.
July 27th, 2006 at 12:46 pmit’s those fabulous Code Pink women again! Good for them!
July 27th, 2006 at 12:50 pm#48 Madashell, I agree and any of the left, men or women that support the present administration should be voted or booted out……Blessings…..Peace
July 27th, 2006 at 12:54 pmchase,
do you not remember that these cowards are working for you. you are their boss. your tax paying money is being spent on the biggest terrorist out there named george bush and co. for lyou to sit back and not say a word is unamerican. then maybe you enjoy getting bent over and f.
if lyou own a company and your employees are commiting fraud, lies, treason are you going to waaaaaiiiiit for an apppropiate time, let’s say another day or another year so he can f. you some more. save the bs.
the right place is ANYWHERE these criminals are and the right time is NOW.
July 27th, 2006 at 1:03 pmbtw,
July 27th, 2006 at 1:08 pmgorgy porgy is chasing ‘terrorists’ all over the world, right? well, we are to. they just so happen to be in our backyard.
#19-The best I can tell Dubya has base of the lowest 29% bottom dwellers…at least it seems that is the number that will follow his failed policies over the cliff, do or die. Now when did 29% become a majority? That is not even a majority in the trailer parks of the vast majority in that group of deliverance characters who support a complete failed presidency.
July 27th, 2006 at 1:12 pmWow, two days in a row! Who gets it tomorrow?
My hats off to these protesters. If your going to protest, do it where people will see you.
July 27th, 2006 at 1:17 pmAt last, some action!
Americans generally are too fearful of demonstrations because they think that is “rude”. But, in the other hand, they don’t vote because they think that it would change nothing, or because they think that the politicans are too corrupt to do anything bood. Friends, realize that it’s a catch-22. The USA people (yes, it’s a generalization, but it’s because I think that a majority of the people is here a significative point), let’s their politicians too much margin to do and undo what the politicians want, not what the people want. The USA people thinks of the “checks and balances” as if they were hardcoded in the system, but it’s not so. The only check and balance valid is the will of all the people in every moment.
And if the politicians play deaf, a protest is an adequate awakener.
Remember, things are always polite and elegant in the movies. If the Congress is always polite and elegant, think that they are acting and lying to you.
July 27th, 2006 at 1:23 pmYes! Yes! Yes!
Courageous Americans are standing up in public, where their faces can be seen, and being heard. I cannot find the right words to illustrate how wonderful these developments are. This brave American deserves your applause and support, she certainly has mine.
What I see as being important is that more of you join the courageous citizens of yesterday and today and publicly display your opposition. And your protests and messages should not be delivered in “free speech zones” or areas out of the public eye, but right in the face of that you are opposing. The hope that I see rising from the actions of these courageous and patriotic souls is encouraging and also needs to be capitalized upon. The movement began yesterday and it is up to you, and all who oppose the USA’s atrocities, to carry it forward and generate the momentum that will then cause for the change that is necessary and critical.
For the detractors I say this: Cowards! That wave that you see coming will not stop and not relent because of your asinine whining. The reign of evil is over. Change your ways and your path or be overcome in ignorance.
May peace be with us all.
July 27th, 2006 at 1:39 pm60% know that Bush is an evil man, but 40% are rock hard brainless GOP zombies > lol.
July 27th, 2006 at 1:40 pmahh, “the appropriate setting”
Does such an appropriate setting even exist? I write letters to my congressmen/women all the time and there’s only one that bothers to not type a BS form letter back to me. In the case of John Coryn NEVER EVER EVER NEVER for the past 6+years.
Congress Repub. or Dem. don’t give 2 sh*ts about us, the people, period. There is NO such thing as an “appropriate setting”. Hence the need for protests.
The idea that we have representation is a scam.
July 27th, 2006 at 1:48 pm#59
You’re only applauding because you hate Bush. I’m sure you’ll change your tune if the president and politicians of your choice are protested against.
July 27th, 2006 at 2:16 pm#62-antagonist
Coward! See that wave coming? Time to change your path and your ways or be overcome in ignorance.
Peace.
July 27th, 2006 at 2:18 pmBolton will end up in jail..
9/11 = inside job!
“9/11 and the NeoCon Agenda on CSPAN”
Watch C-span Sat July29@8PM
http://rawstory.com/
July 27th, 2006 at 2:25 pmhttp://www.911blogger.com/
http://www.st911.org/
I only have one comment for Antagonist, and is a quote from a real republican:
“To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.” -Teddy Roosevelt
July 27th, 2006 at 2:26 pmHumanist,
You see a couple of protestors and you’re wetting yourself in giddy delight. You actually think that you are on the eve of some kind of victory. How laughable! Do you have any idea how absurd you sound? You come across as an absolute kook, and then you call all those who aren’t impressed with these so-calledcourageous and patriotic souls cowards. That’s quite a leap when you know nothing about the people you level that charge against.
July 27th, 2006 at 2:35 pm#66-antagonist
Coward! See that wave coming? Time to change your path and your ways or be overcome in ignorance.
Peace.
July 27th, 2006 at 2:36 pmHey all…..I’m interested in becoming a member of the democrat party. Can someone please show me where the abortion clinic and welfare lines are? Thanks in advance…
July 27th, 2006 at 2:37 pm#65
I only have one comment for Antagonist, and is a quote from a real republican:
“To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.†-Teddy Roosevelt
Comment by madashell — July 27, 2006 @ 2:26 pm
I don’t know what you’re trying to tell me, but I assume you think I’m opposed to any criticism of the President. Is that correct?
July 27th, 2006 at 2:39 pm#59
You’re only applauding because you hate Bush. I’m sure you’ll change your tune if the president and politicians of your choice are protested against.
Comment by Antagonist — July 27, 2006 @ 2:16 pm
I’m pretty certain I despise all American politicians at this point. Some though, I despise more than others:-)
July 27th, 2006 at 2:40 pm#68-Convert,
You are a coward! See that massive wave approaching rapidly? Your asinine whining will not stop it. The reign of evil is over. Change your ways or be overcome in ignorance.
May peace be with us all.
July 27th, 2006 at 2:41 pm#67 Humanist,
What on Earth are you talking about? I’m sure you mean well, but I’m not qualified to sort out yur psychotic ramblings. You should seek help.
July 27th, 2006 at 2:43 pm#72-antagonist,
So you are both a coward and a fool. I pity you. See that wave rapidly approaching and growing in size and strength? The reign of evil is over and your affiliation with it will not act as a life preserver, but will be an anchor instead. Your choice.
Peace.
July 27th, 2006 at 2:45 pm#70
I pretty much agree with you except I’m not quite to the despise level yet. I don’t really trust any of them—Democrat or Republican.
July 27th, 2006 at 2:45 pmTo get the facts straight – I was at the Bolton nomination for the whole 4 1/2 hours this morning. The protestor stood up and waited, the police waited for her to speak, she then proceeded to speak, the hearing was called to order, she was removed, the hearing resumed not one second after she had left the room, no one in the room seemed to care….this was again repeated with an oldrer women abour 4 minutes later…both protestors disrupted the hearing only in so long as it took the police to remove them. Most the crowd were young interns, like myself, and the crowd remiained silent when she left. No disruption beyond the inappropriate and immature outbursts. If you want to comment get your facts straight and go to the hearing instad of drawing conclusions from the sounbites and 10min blups broadcast on the news.
July 27th, 2006 at 2:50 pm#73
I feel like I interupted while you were in the middle of some exstatic utterance. Stop acting like a deluded cult member and offer some semblance of an explanation.
July 27th, 2006 at 2:53 pmAs a life long democrat, I do not know the location of either an abortion clinic, or the welfare lines. I have worked for what I have.
July 27th, 2006 at 2:55 pm#75-eric,
Coward! You’re “brave” enough to come here and speak in anonymity with supposed “truth”, but attempt to discredit courageous Americans who stood up and spoke in public and for all to see. So, you’re not just a coward, but a pathetic one at that.
See that wave coming? Ignore it at your own peril.
Peace.
July 27th, 2006 at 2:56 pmHumanist….
Is peace going to be with the Islamofacist who would cut your throat the first chance they got?
July 27th, 2006 at 2:56 pmTo stress me point even further – the water dripping, some would say gushing, from the ceiling of the Hart office room this morning during the last hour of the hearing seemed to have more of an impact on the crowwd then both code-pink protestors combined. For those of you who think these tactics are working or have any effect, it is time to rethink your strategy and/or move to Europe
July 27th, 2006 at 2:56 pm#70
I pretty much agree with you except I’m not quite to the despise level yet. I don’t really trust any of them—Democrat or Republican.
Comment by Antagonist — July 27, 2006 @ 2:45 pm
As an invested observer, I’m clinging to the democrats to deliver something approaching sanity. Mind you … Hillary … shudder:-(
Feingold seems less tainted than most, and Obama has a great smile:-) Although as a non American, the differences between the GOP and Democrats? Almost nothing there, really. In Europe you’ve got hard core communists and frothing at the mouth darwinian capitalists in parliaments. A far more varied and interesting political spectrum, and that keeps the boys and girls on their toes.
The US seems to be suffering from a sort of political constipation, no matter how hard you try, you can’t evacuate the accumulated waste of decades. Thats going to end badly.
July 27th, 2006 at 2:56 pm#75
Thanks for that Eric. Too often Think Progress and their loyal readers try to blow these sort of things out of proportion. It’s nice to see some sanity.
July 27th, 2006 at 2:56 pmI am a “coward”? All I am doing is presenting the facts as they occured in person at the hearing this morning. If you feel their actions are worthwhile then I encourage you to join in their 1960’s fantasy land – otherwise continue to post comments on an internet board attacking people you dont know.
July 27th, 2006 at 2:59 pm#79-convert,
Look out! Your shadow might get you. Coward.
Peace.
July 27th, 2006 at 3:00 pmEric Sayers – F*CK you and the horse you rode on. THIS IS MY COUNTRY TOO ASSHOLE!!!!!!!
July 27th, 2006 at 3:03 pmEric,
July 27th, 2006 at 3:03 pmThe 60’s weren’t a fantasy. Since you weren’t born yet, that doesn’t mean it didn’t happen. Too bad, you could learn a lot from people from the 60’s, little guy.
Now go hump your “Conservative”, Freedom hating party, “intern”.
If you feel their actions are worthwhile then I encourage you to join in their 1960’s fantasy land –
Please. As I recall the 1960’s changed America completely. God knows we could do with some change, almost anything really would be better than the current ghastly kleptocracy.
July 27th, 2006 at 3:04 pm#86 SNAP!
July 27th, 2006 at 3:05 pm#83-eric,
That “fantasy land” you reference ended the last vile war that your country perpetrated. So, my friend, the “fantasy” is your own, reality has already proven itself.
And I do know you, by your actions. That is how we are all known. You act as a coward, therefore that is how you are known. With your “fantasy†statement, you have proven yourself to be a fool as well. Your choice, by the way, and you can change such if you so desire.
May peace be with us all.
July 27th, 2006 at 3:06 pmThis eric guy must be one of those college repuklicans.
July 27th, 2006 at 3:06 pm#83-eric,
That “fantasy land†you reference ended the last vile war that your country perpetrated. So, my friend, the “fantasy†is your own, reality has already proven itself.
An excellent point. However, I feel compelled to point out that even though I in principle agree with much of what you post, I find the delivery and tone somewhat contrived and artificial.
Just an observation … no offense intended, quite the contrary, but frankly you come off as a little odd, and I’m on your side.
Food for thought.
July 27th, 2006 at 3:10 pmHumanist…
No, I have my shadow in check with my 9mm. I right that is protected by the Constitution (that same Constitution that protects your blabbering ass mouth to ramble on and on). A right that you pansy ass socialist liberals would take away from me the first chance you got if you could. Thank heavens we have the greatest Supreme Court Justices in Thomas, Alito, Scalia, and Roberts, who will all ensure that the current liberal movement is the country will be put to rest as soon as possible.
July 27th, 2006 at 3:11 pm#92-convert,
Boo!
Peace.
P.S. I apologize for making you soil your britches.
July 27th, 2006 at 3:13 pmHumanist….
Some any weed and kill any babies lately?
July 27th, 2006 at 3:14 pmNo, I have my shadow in check with my 9mm.
Your shadow? Your actual own shadow? For goodness sake guy get some counselling. Ideally before that gun goes off:-)
July 27th, 2006 at 3:14 pmMeant to say smoke, not some. But I’m sure you already knew that.
July 27th, 2006 at 3:14 pmYou guys are a bunch of intellectually-dishonest jackasses. Eric simply states what he personally observed at the hearing, and you all attack him. How pathetic!
July 27th, 2006 at 3:15 pmJust remember…..Liberalism is a mental disorder. It is a train of thought that cannot be explained.
July 27th, 2006 at 3:17 pm#91-Brian,
I appreciate the critique, and would feel the same even if you did not agree with what I say. Communications is not my strong suit and I am aware of that, but I am always striving to improve. Thank you for the civility.
May peace be with us all.
July 27th, 2006 at 3:18 pmYou guys are a bunch of intellectually-dishonest jackasses. Eric simply states what he personally observed at the hearing, and you all attack him. How pathetic!
Comment by Antagonist — July 27, 2006 @ 3:15 pm
C’mon … he stated it with a partisan view and then made a silly comment about the 60’s, arguably one of the most important periods in global history. He got a light and well deserved savaging. It wasn’t all that bad.
Golly, no wonder they remove the protesters so promptly, are you all this thin skinned?
Ah peace? :-)
July 27th, 2006 at 3:20 pmSome valid points. By fantasy land I only meant to reference the left wing protestor heyday some feel is alive and well today. Unfortunately, it is not. For those of you who disagree with me that is fine. However, the policies of the last five years are representative of our system of democracy and those leaders this country chose to elect. Losing elections and then resorting to interrupting United States Committee hearings with rude statements and painted t-shirts is not anyway to get your point across, nor create viable change. If the left wants change in this country perhaps it should revisit its roots. What happened to the FDR’s, Truman’s, “Scoop” Jacksons??? Unfortunately the Vietnam era radicalized the left and forced it into its present state. We have gone from those great Americans I mentioned to the Howard Dean’s and Nancy Pelosi’s of today.
July 27th, 2006 at 3:24 pmFor the record. I am not a college republican, I am an American attending University in Canada where I am a graduate student.
The “protester” was a professional Code Pink whack job, given access through an invitation from Major Owen. The MSM tried to portray this as an example of “widespread discontent”, just as you are. Of course it was actually just a typical left-wing set up.
July 27th, 2006 at 3:24 pmI just like when Capitol Hill interns the silver spooners who often even don’t recognize continents on the world map dare to call activist inappropriate trouble makers..
You guys will maybe make it in the desired office in the end, but the Chinese and others will outsmart you by a longshot, welcome to future of falling US empire..
July 27th, 2006 at 3:26 pmI would also like to add that I should have left my initial partisan comments off this board. I have never posted before and lost myself in the moment. My statements about the hearing however are completely accurate – anyone at the hearing will testify to that. Please excuse my initial immature remarks.
July 27th, 2006 at 3:26 pmHowever, the policies of the last five years are representative of our system of democracy and those leaders this country chose to elect.
True enough, but the US system doesn’t allow for much play in the system and interpreting 51% of the 50% that vote as a mandate is rather outrageous to be frank. Especially when the issues at stake are global, and risk plunging the world into a war that could kill millions.
All on this on the basis of the choice of what, 1.25% of the global population? Nope, that is not going to fly. More protests I hope, and soon.
July 27th, 2006 at 3:30 pm#100
C’mon … he stated it with a partisan view and then made a silly comment about the 60’s, arguably one of the most important periods in global history. He got a light and well deserved savaging. It wasn’t all that bad.
Is his comment about the 60’s worth disregarding his observations at the hearing?
July 27th, 2006 at 3:30 pmIt seems for some that it is, as they have assigned a near spiritual meaning to these protests. How can they back away from their comments after assigning so much meanig to these event? It seems they’d rather screw the truth and kill the messenger.
OLDPUPPYMAX,
July 27th, 2006 at 3:31 pmAs long as it gets your panties in a wad, it’s totally worth it.
Land of the free.
If you don’t like it, please leave.
Quite the contrary. Most interns I live with, almost all intern in a Senate or COngressional office, are middle class 20-23 who are hear because they love what they do and have worked their asses off to make it. To dismiss us as uneducated rich kids shows me you simply have no experience with the Washington intern scene.
As for the China comment. Maybe we will be outsmarted as you say, but like those Americans who have come before us, we most certainly will do our best.
July 27th, 2006 at 3:32 pmmadashell, me too! And I concur hillary is a man.
July 27th, 2006 at 3:35 pmMy statements about the hearing however are completely accurate – anyone at the hearing will testify to that. Please excuse my initial immature remarks.
Comment by Eric Sayers — July 27, 2006 @ 3:26 pm
Fair enough. I can’t resist the polite and civil:-) Perhaps it is overblown, but Bush and Co. (and I’m straining not to add a long list of unflattering adjectives) do live in a something of an insulated bubble. This is exactly what precipitates the disastrous group think the administration exhibits.
They are a serial car wreck. Issue after issue, thats how an outsider sees it anyway, and there are very few outside of the US that have any respect for him at all.
He has quite literally destroyed the US as a force for good in the world, and trashed the few international institutions we had in the process. The same institutions that have contributed to our not being incinerated by nuclear weapons in the last 60 years I might add. None of this is good:-(
July 27th, 2006 at 3:37 pm109. I kinda of understand now why bubba sought “entertainment” elsewhere.
July 27th, 2006 at 3:38 pm“To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.†-Teddy Roosevelt
Great quote. I don’t see any justification in that for standing up at a Senate Confirmation Hearing and shouting down the Senators or the Ambassador.
No one is “silencing” dissent in this country. Look around. People are openly fed up with President Bush and those in his administration.
Soviet Russia, Saddam’s Iraq, Castro’s Cuba, Iran the past 3 decades – now those are good examples of silenced dissent – with a prison cell or a bullet.
As for “free speech zones” – I don’t like em. I think, in some cases, there are legitimate security concerns but for the most part confining protesters to little areas is contrary to our principles as Americans (interesting factoid: President Clinton first instituted the use of “free speech zones”?)
July 27th, 2006 at 3:38 pmAs for the comments about the protest being completely staged, this is accurate. I sat in the front row right in front of the first protestor to stand up – she was the one with the shirt. About 10min into the hearing a man came in and sat right in front of me in the press section. All he had was a digital recorder and a long microphone – like you see when they make movies – excuse my ill knowledge of this technology. He sat there and waittired, not concerned with the proceedings, and raised the microphone right as the protestor stood. She stood for a good 10 seconds waiting for the Senators comments to finish and the cameras and police to focus on her. When she was finished the microphone “news reporter” left. Clearly the action was well organized as a publicity stunt.
July 27th, 2006 at 3:38 pmYou lefties really are a hoot. John Bolton, for your grand information, is a true statesman. One of the few we have left in this country. HE has courage. The little code-pink twits who keep disrupting these meetings and speeches don’t know the meaning of the word.
So you “have no representation” in the Senate? Too f-ing bad. Try running a candidate that will win. Your inability to do that doesn’t mean you get to disrupt a governmental meeting.
Left-wingers == a bunch of whiny, spoiled children.
July 27th, 2006 at 3:41 pmEric – yeah, you’re right. Since news of this kind of thing happening for years now, we only had those people’s words – and NOW we have PROOF.
July 27th, 2006 at 3:41 pmWhen she was finished the microphone “news reporter†left. Clearly the action was well organized as a publicity stunt.
Comment by Eric Sayers — July 27, 2006 @ 3:38 pm
Yes. She took the trouble, several someones discussed, conspired and contrived to get through modest security to stage a stunt. The point is they did it, it took co-operation and planning. Enough people are now some incensed with this administration that rips in the fabric of Bushs reality are beginning to appear.
I personally, think thats good and healthy. Vive la freedom to yell incoherently!!!
July 27th, 2006 at 3:44 pmSo much for Humanist’s “wave”
July 27th, 2006 at 3:44 pmJohn Bolton being called a true statesman – WTF – all these trolls know how to do is spew their oxymoronic comments.
July 27th, 2006 at 3:44 pmLOL,
I guess the republican talking point, is all who dislike Bush and the war are “whinny children” perhaps it is time to come up with something new? Better yet “stay the course” so you can get your assess handed to you in November. Bolton is an irresponsible jackass, working for incopotent jackasses. Thank God we will have a change, then I can finally stop listening to the perpetual sniveling, name calling, and general I’m the victim attitude of the right.
July 27th, 2006 at 3:45 pmIn order for voices of dissent to be heard over the din of spin by those in control, staging a protest is hardly worth mentioning over the message being conveyed.
Everytime we hear our Commander in Wimp speak, it’s 100% staged, isn’t it?
So what? Staged, not staged, the point is: the one’s most upset by a protesters actions are the ones for whom the message is directed.
See, it does work. GOTCHA!
July 27th, 2006 at 3:46 pmWell said, DieNowForPeace.
Dissent = The American Way
July 27th, 2006 at 3:47 pmIt is wonderfully refreshing to see the TP wing of the Lefty movement well represented in the halls of Congress and on TV.
But to see how effective the princesses at Code Pink are: Medea Benjamin is a perpetual candidate here in California who couldn’t get elected “moonbat counter”. She makes Dem moderates look like cossacks…She is VERY entertaining but couldn’t get, or keep a real job…
July 27th, 2006 at 3:50 pmDear Zoooooey – How much dissent do you thik is allowed in most Islamic countries?
July 27th, 2006 at 3:52 pm#101-eric,
I respectfully disagree. The “Vietnam era†did not radicalize the “left†and such a statement shows a gross misunderstanding of that period in world history. Being a graduate student who I assume to be studying political science by your attendance today at the halls of congress, you should be fully aware of the political instability of the USA at the time of the Vietnam fiasco.
As with today, the USA’s political landscape at that time was fraught with corruption. The military industrial complex that President Eisenhower warned about was operating with a full head of steam, and the government itself was acting outside the interests of the people that is was supposed to represent. The movement that such a vacuum created is what you are seeing duplicated at this very moment. The people of the 60’s were sharply divided into the WWII generation that was mostly loyal to a fault with their government (a byproduct of the “nationalism†attitude from the war effort) and the War Baby generation who, as history has proven to be correct, saw through the deceptions by the government about the war and recognized its horrific moral implications.
Today the “battle lines†have been drawn in USA society as being “conservatives†and “liberalsâ€. Any sentient being knows that there is not really such differences, by the way, as every individual has both traits. But there has been much effort, with no need to discuss the reasons right now, to create the separation and to exploit it so as to control power. In many ways, this current time in the USA is very much the same as the ‘60s.
You oversimplify an extremely complex situation and then run it up the flag pole in an effort to gain credibility. I see right through it, and I suspect many else do. Now, if you would like to debate this further, please go on. But do not insult the intelligence of those who lived during the time that you reference as a supposed “expertâ€.
May peace be with us all.
July 27th, 2006 at 3:52 pmInterestingly, the local news referred to her as a “heckler” instead of a protester.
July 27th, 2006 at 3:52 pmFirst of all there is no security that would concern the protestor. As long as you dont have a gun/knife/WMD on you you can walk into the Hart Senate Office buiding. As for being well organized, yes it was, but only between a small group of individuals willing to get up early on a Thursday morning and whom have access to the internet.
July 27th, 2006 at 3:54 pmDear Zoooooey – How much dissent do you thik is allowed in most Islamic countries?
Comment by mighty aphrodite — July 27, 2006 @ 3:52 pm
Thats the bar is it? As long as you’re not chopping of genitals and force feeding them to the victim, you’re the good guy? Wow.. you’re quite the democrat.
July 27th, 2006 at 3:54 pmMore than anything,
July 27th, 2006 at 4:02 pmI think our forefathers would be aghast at how we’ve abandoned our Constitutional Democracy.
Remember, the basic idea behind all the freedoms, and stucture of our Government is to ensure the best ideas, derived from the most people, will generate balanced and fair Governing of ALL. We’re not supposed to be this divided. The concept is to give everyone a voice, and a vote, then hopefully, the best policies can be derived.
I think whoever wins the next ticket to the White House MUST mainly focus on uniting our Nation. Whether you agree with a protest or not, you should be proud to be part of a Country whose principals hold our concepts of Freedom dearly. To hear otherwise is totally against what our Country was designed to represent.
Rather than bashing each other over the head on faceless weblogs (which I know both parties benefit from), WE THE PEOPLE can, and should, take back control over our Corporate Government. Let’s stop letting these career politicians set the agenda. Let’s find some common ground, please?
#126-eric,
Actually, that statement about the security is not true. I also find it odd that you speak with certainty about the planning of the protestors. A logic error that a graduate student would not make. At least not any that I have ever encountered. Excuse me while I see if I can gather some more credible facts.
May peace be with us all.
July 27th, 2006 at 4:05 pmLet’s stop letting these career politicians set the agenda. Let’s find some common ground, please?
Comment by DieNowForPeace — July 27, 2006 @ 4:02 pm
Amen to that.
July 27th, 2006 at 4:08 pmTwo things to end career politicians:
term limits, and campaign contribution controls.
July 27th, 2006 at 4:17 pmI am not going to argue about the security. I go in there once a week and they let anyone in who passes through the metal detector. Yes, your graduate school comment is correct. When working on substantial work such principles would applu. However, such principles do not apply when I am posting on a left-wing websites comment section. However, the conclusions I did draw were all factually based. There were two protesters. They were assisted by the microphone fellow. There actions did not require much planning or sophisstication beyond that. Anyone with the nerve could pull it off. What comments did I make that could not be backed up with fact? Like I said, this was not the Macy’s Parade – they had nerve, could get up early to get the seat they got – I can attest tot his also because they were there when I arrived at 8:15 well before the hearing began, and they have use of the internet. Overall, a simple operation.
July 27th, 2006 at 4:24 pm#131
July 27th, 2006 at 4:26 pmSleaze bags will never vote for limiting their own terms or for controlling their cash flow. The only hope is to elect 3rd party candidates outside the established corrupt channels. Candidates like Kinky Friedman here in Texas are just what this bogged-down, chasing-it’s tail government needs. He’s got a chance to break the monotony with fresh ideas and new approaches, AND NO CORRUPT CAMPAIGN FINANCING/INFLUENCING.
And from the looks of it so far, he’s going to help create a HUGE turnout this fall, which can only mean disaster for the incumbents on all levels of Government.
“He’s not Kinky, He’s my Governor”
#127 – “Thats the bar is it? As long as you’re not chopping of genitals and force feeding them to the victim, you’re the good guy? Wow.. you’re quite the democrat.
Comment by Brian Coughlan
*****Brian, Thank you for taking the time to reveal the TRUE nature of idiocy – YOUR inability to follow topics. Topic: dissent in the Congress. My question: HOW much dissent permitted in Islamic countries? Your tortured “logic” took a giant leap backwards and connected the dots to sexual utilation and torture. Perhaps you should trying to answer the thread about the Don Feder piece. P.S. I am a recovering Democrat….)
July 27th, 2006 at 4:31 pmNot to beat a dead horse MA, but you question about how much dissent is allowed in Islamic countries, has zero value to the current discussion. Of course everything you post has zero value to the discussion. Good on you for being consistent, even if it is consistantly idiotic.
July 27th, 2006 at 4:40 pm#132-eric,
Accessing varying sources I am receiving equally diverse analysis (surprise).
What you call “nerve”, I would call courage. That is, after all, what that usage of that word is meant to imply. I feel that your terminology marginalizes, whether intentional or not, the courage that the protesters displayed in speaking truth to power and you’ll have to forgive me if you find it offensive that I will not allow that to happen. Far too many have opted for cowardly servitude for far too long. Many will find that comment offensive as well, but it is the truth. Courage in the face of oppression needs to be celebrated, not dismissed.
The other thing that your advanced education should have opened your eyes to is that “simple” does not equate to “unsuccessful” as you imply. In fact, the opposite is true in that the most successful solutions are often times the most “simple†ones. Hence Einstein’s directive to keep things as simple as possible, but no more.
Peace to you and may your education adventure be wondrous and fruitful.
May peace be with us all.
July 27th, 2006 at 4:46 pmAnd this is relevant to the discussion how … ?
July 27th, 2006 at 5:01 pmHOW much dissent permitted in Islamic countries?
Is that what we are striving for now as a nation? To become more like an Islamic country?
July 27th, 2006 at 5:04 pm“Clearly the action was well organized as a publicity stunt.”
Well duh…
July 27th, 2006 at 5:12 pmDieNowForPeace – Are you a Texan?
July 27th, 2006 at 6:28 pmComment by DieNowForPeace — July 27, 2006 @ 4:26 pm
I hope. Really I do. Make Texas BLUE again!
July 27th, 2006 at 6:44 pmDISSENT = PATRIOTISM!!! The founding fathers were dissenters. Anyone here thinks that the Boston Tea Party was to honor King George? Trolls, What you learned in the Hitler Youth is blind robotic obedience, not independent thought. Hiya Zooey.
July 27th, 2006 at 7:09 pm#135 – “Not to beat a dead horse MA, but you question about how much dissent is allowed in Islamic countries, has zero value to the current discussion. Of course everything you post has zero value to the discussion. Good on you for being consistent, even if it is consistantly idiotic.” – Comment by Krazny
*****Krazny – Can’t stand a comparison between tolerated dissent and intolerable torture – your inability to connect dots is pathetic – but consistent!! Congrats!! I personally love the Lefts’ tired rubbish about the “Terrorists Jews beleaguering the Middle East.” (sounds right out of the annals of The Nation and the KKK Knot Tying Book.
July 27th, 2006 at 7:25 pmSooner or later a revolution is likely to start in the US. That or everyone will be jailed for not bowing down the Emperor George and his regime. Resist the oppresors! Stand up and take your rights back America before it is too late!
July 27th, 2006 at 7:30 pmWell, obviously, Chase-r-oo (you too, I take it, cheers!)
I’m a 5th generation Texan, on my dad’s side at least.
Madashell - we’ll try, although I tend not to believe in miracles, Kinky is on the correct path to win as an independent. I just know he’ll bring more progressive types to the polls. Thank goodness.
July 27th, 2006 at 8:48 pmYou guys are a bunch of intellectually-dishonest jackasses. Eric simply states what he personally observed at the hearing, and you all attack him. How pathetic!
Comment by Antagonist — July 27, 2006 @ 3:15 pm
Please point out the respect in this or any other of your attacks in this thread. I seem to be missing it. As always.
July 27th, 2006 at 9:10 pmisn’t a congressional intern just an inside-the-beltway asslicker?
July 27th, 2006 at 10:09 pmdear congressional asslicker intern,
the protest wasn’t for you. sorry you had that mistaken impression. you are already lost. you condone the system, you hope to grease the wheels and benefit from the system. just being a part of the system makes you believe you are somehow more important than the rest of us. that’s your problem.
the protest was for the rest of us. you know, REAL americans that don’t feed (or aspire to feed) at the public trough.
July 27th, 2006 at 10:13 pmonce again, mighty tripey displays almost awe-inspiring feeblemindedness.
let’s look a bit more closely at your question, “How much dissent do you thik is allowed in most Islamic countries?”
so at first, i have to assume you mean to say that it’s good that we have these freedoms and it’s bad that most islamic countries don’t. fair enough, and an accurate statement.
but simplistic. why is that even worth mentioning?
unless there’s an implied meaning there – that somehow, because we have these freedoms, we’re not supposed to exercise them. we’re supposed to be so servile to our wonderful government and so grateful that they don’t destroy us, crush our freedoms, imprison us for speaking out and quash all dissent, that we don’t even dare considering speaking out when we think something is wrong.
because us pathetic americans are so lucky we live in a country where we have rights that we should actually choose not to exercise them. just because gwb is so magnanimous as to not go ahead and be the dictator some of you on the right actually seem to want him to be and throw these protestors into jail, or, better yet, put them in front of firing squads, just like in those islamic countries you keep referencing with such zeal.
is your fixation with oppressive islamic regimes based on fear — or desire? whatever it is, it can only be described as your own weakness. weakness of character, weakness of mind. you are simply a poor example of an american. you shame us all, tripey.
July 27th, 2006 at 10:49 pmgood girl. We have been hushed up and frightened into silence for five years. we ALL need to step up to the plate and start yelling
July 27th, 2006 at 10:59 pmProtester? Ha! No, looks like just another skanky code pinker angry because she doesn’t get enough cock. Nothing to see her, move along…
July 28th, 2006 at 1:53 amlooks like just another skanky code pinker angry because she doesn’t get enough cock.
you’re her boyfriend?
July 28th, 2006 at 2:32 amYour tortured “logic†took a giant leap backwards and connected the dots to sexual utilation and torture.
The question has been addressed comprehensivley by other posters. I’m more interested in your tone. Why the ferocious response? Did the comment sting, were you injured by its content:-) Good grief!! :-)
My comment simply highlights the waste of airtime your pointing out the blindingly obvious entails. By all means continue to champion the obvious and banal soundbite, but don’t be so shocked when you get called on it:-)
July 28th, 2006 at 2:38 amWell Peter you certainly make a convincing case don’t you?
Are all supporters of the Neo-Con agenda as clever and articluate as you, or are you like the NeoCon intellectual? Isn’t that an Oxymoron?
Such intelligent analysis makes it clear why the USA is what it is on the world stage obviously.
Well done Peter, a study in American values and rationale.
July 28th, 2006 at 2:45 amTerrorists Hate us for our Freedom of Speech
I agree with what this woman said.
BTW, the GOP Congress needs to be yelled at more. Bolton was a recess appointment. His nomination should be rejected based on that, baseed on his refusal to respond to committee questions, based on his dismal performance.
July 28th, 2006 at 7:49 amgood girl. We have been hushed up and frightened into silence for five years. we ALL need to step up to the plate and start yelling
Comment by Lila York
July 28th, 2006 at 9:36 am———————-
I’ll try to do my part,Lila.Good post.
J Benjamin
Terrorists Hate us for our Freedom of Speech
Oh for gods sake can we stop with this mindless dribble?
Firstly: The USA and Israel are the real terrorists. You are the ones killing masses of civilians, bombing hospitals infrastructure, ambulences and UN observers. How many UN observers have been killed by Islamic Mujahideen? How many ambulances have been fired upon by Hezbollah?
Secondly: The so called terrorists hate you because you are killing their people and occupying their land, and stealing their resources. Exactly the same reasons you would hate them if they were like you.
You are the agressors, they are the defenders. Its that simple.
July 28th, 2006 at 1:22 pmThey are completely ambivalent about you so called freedoms or your freedom of speech if truth be known. They don’t give a shit. They don’t want your societies, which they see as foul and corrupt, especially do you know Muslims see you as being demeaning of women? That’s a fact.
July 28th, 2006 at 1:25 pmIt was one woman. Are they anticipating more or is this more media hyperbole.
Comment by Badmoodman #3
There were at least 2…
…and that’s too bad…
…the Senate and House should be shut down…
…’til we get some SANE leadership…
July 28th, 2006 at 1:36 pm#159 – Rabbit,
July 28th, 2006 at 3:31 pmI’ve met enough Muslims to know that if Hugh Heffner was in an Arabic land, he would have been drawn and quartered, stoned or beheaded before the second issue of Playboy was galleried.
Walt the Man
I too have met plenty of Arabs, and I say you are full of it. I have numerous Arab friends. It happens though that if you invade their land they do tend to get pissed.
Invade my land you jumped up yankee monkey and I’ll chop your bloody heads off too!
Tell me, what is more humane about dropping bombs which kill indiscrimantely and blows childrens heads off, compared to chopping off the head of an invading soldier?
By the way, how many Muslim fighters have attacked ambulances, deliberatly killed UN observers and bombed milk factories so far?
Hypocrsiy is the American way isn’t it just.
Like I said, they don’t give a toss about your much vaunted freedoms. It seems that Americans don’t care much for their freedoms either or they wouldn’t be rolling over like a cheap whore for some more, every time the Bushling Junta strips away more freedom and privacy.
July 28th, 2006 at 9:48 pm#163 – Rabbit,
July 28th, 2006 at 10:56 pmNot all Arabs are Muslims. Some are Druze, some are Christian, some are Jewish and most (the majority 70%) are Muslim. All of them share a Semite base which dates back at least 7000 years according to DNA mapping. The people occupying the region in the country, we call Israel, genetically, are more than 60% Kashmiri and about 14% Mongolian according to DNA mapping and arrived in Europe about 1800 years ago. The balance of their genes were harvested from the native pool.
WaltTheMan
Indeed. Israel is founded by Ashkenazi Jews and their white skin is totally foreign to the ME. They have not got a thousands of year history in the ME as the morons like to parrot. Their history in the Mid-East is about fifty years old and they are not semites.
Ironically considering most Palestinians, who include semitic Jews in their number are semites and thus the true ANTI-SEMITES are the Zionist Israelis.
Walt I accidentally exchanged the word Arab with Muslim before, but the point I made remains unchanged.
I recommend reading the following It defines exactly what Islamic resistance is about and is very informative.
July 29th, 2006 at 3:38 am
By the way Walt, I misunderstood you initially I think, sorry, no offence intended and I agree Hugh Hefner, would have been stoned and probably beheaded by Muslims too.
July 29th, 2006 at 5:07 amWho is that cute guy sitting on her left? He’s so hot! Anyone else agree?
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