U.S. Image Among Lebanese Plummets 30 Points
U.S. Image Among Lebanese Plummets 30 Points
The ongoing violence in the Middle East, which the Bush administration has tacitly endorsed, has sapped support for the United States in Lebanon, according to a new survey.
The latest poll by the Beirut Center found that 8 percent of Lebanese feel the US supports Lebanon, down from 38 percent in January. […]
“Look what America gives us, bombs and missiles,” says [Ghassan Farran, a doctor and head of a local cultural organization]. “I was never a political person and never with Hizbullah but now after this I am with Hizbullah.”
Analysts have noted that as the crisis grows, it “strengthens anti-Americanism worldwide and fuels radicalism in the Arab and Muslim world.” Assessing Arab media coverage, one found that in “the last few days, the main trend has been unmistakable: an increasing focus on the United States as the villain” of the conflict.
Pollsters have documented serious positive trends in Lebanese public opinion over the last several years. Favorable opinion of the United States jumped from 27% to 42% from 2003 to 2005. The number of Lebanese who believed terrorism could sometimes be justified dropped from 73 percent to 39 percent from 2002 to 2005, while the number who believed democracy could work in Lebanon went from 75 percent to 83 percent.
Condoleezza Rice today pledged to return to the region but won’t say when. By the time she gets around to it, the damage to America’s reputation may be entrenched.
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8% popularity - that’s low, even by Dick Cheney standards.
July 28th, 2006 at 3:31 pmProof that the Bush Cabal’s policies are working?
Why, yes! Hatred is such a fine Christian value. It’s fullest flower is to be found amoungst NeoCon ReichWingNuts.
July 28th, 2006 at 3:36 pmThis is so very sad. Just when you think the Bush Administration is done causing more harm it just keeps getting even worse. I think the “done causing more harm” lasted a few minutes.
July 28th, 2006 at 3:38 pmBy the time she gets around to it, the damage to America’s reputation may be entrenched.
It may be too late already, Nico.
July 28th, 2006 at 3:39 pmConsidering it’s our bombs killing them it goes to show 8% of any population is crazy.
July 28th, 2006 at 3:41 pmI think we’ve got a worldwide consensus:
Time to impeach:
July 28th, 2006 at 3:41 pmhttp://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10562904/
As dear Father used to say,
July 28th, 2006 at 3:46 pmBush could f*ck up free beer.
“Look what America gives us, bombs and missiles,†says [Ghassan Farran, a doctor and head of a local cultural organization]. “I was never a political person and never with Hizbullah but now after this I am with Hizbullah.â€
He’s with the islamo-fascists, so hopefully he’ll personally be “given” some bombs.
July 28th, 2006 at 3:56 pmHow can they be mad at us? Didn’t Condi explain how we got rid of that fake peace they suffered through the past few years? We should immediately send every right wing pundit to South Lebannon to clear up this misunderstanding.
July 28th, 2006 at 3:57 pmThis is the last comment I will post on this or any other blog, as my path of peace takes me elsewhere. Many will take this as good news as my brash messages of truth were “uncomfortable†to them. Many others will not care in the least as they refused to listen to the truths I communicated or just dismissed me for whatever excuse they found convenient to them. So be it. I honor and respect every one’s freedom of choice and I know that ultimately everyone is responsible for their choices, whether they choose to acknowledge that or not.
The USA is a house divided. Republicans versus Democrats. Liberals versus Conservatives. Left versus Right. North versus South. Rich versus Poor. Black versus White. This religion versus that religion. Far too many dividing issues to even count, and all meaningless and arbitrary. The “us vs. them†mentality has become so ingrained in your culture that you are no longer capable of seeking out peaceful coexistence. Rather, every issue is immediately approached as “choose a side and then prepare for battleâ€. You have not the ability to see that you doom yourselves before you even start. What’s worse is that you choose to continue such an approach even though it has failed each and every time. You do know the definition of insanity don’t you?
So as you bicker amongst yourselves like ill-behaved children about whose “right†on this or that, you as a collective, that known as the United States of America, perpetrate heinous and atrocious evils upon the world and yourselves. You see the evils, yet you forgive yourself of them immediately, or just refuse to accept responsibility for them, based upon the asinine division concept previously described. It’s not your fault because the other guys did it or, you would have done it better. Foolishness, wrapped in ignorance.
The truths that you ignore and refuse to accept are horrific. A glance at just a partial list is sickening:
- Genocide
- Murder
- Warmongering
- Torture and abuse
- Rape
- Abandonment of your poor (while increasing their numbers)
- Abandonment of your elderly (while decreasing their numbers)
- Killing, maiming, and abusing children.
The list goes on and absolutely none of these truths can successfully be challenged. The number of occurrences is staggering but they continue, with your knowledge, in plain sight for all to see.
I can no longer address you and I am saddened at my failure by not being able to reach you and bring to light the truths you hide from. It is my sincerest hope that you will see that light on your own or that someone better than I will lead you to it. You are a good people, and I truly believe that, but you are lost. I implore you to get off of the path that you are on and do so with the urgency that the situation warrants. So many peaceful solutions are available to you so no violent options should, or have to, be employed. Look into a child’s eyes and know that your actions, or inactions, will frame their future. And if that future is the same, or worse, than what the reality is today, can you live with that? Is that truly the legacy that you want to leave? Do you honestly want to be the first American generation to leave to their children a country, and world for that matter, that is far worse off than when they were handed the reigns.
May compassion overwhelm humanity, and may peace be with all of us.
July 28th, 2006 at 3:59 pmWhat a wonderful legacy GWB will have. He has increased the hate and suffering in the world like no other president has done.
July 28th, 2006 at 4:06 pmHumanist:
Your strategy of making people angry was counter-productive.
July 28th, 2006 at 4:10 pmWho cares what a bunch of rag-heads think about us?
July 28th, 2006 at 4:13 pmI’m listening to the Police’s “Driven to Tears” on the radio right now. Seems appropriate.
July 28th, 2006 at 4:15 pmThis is the PNAC goal, intimmidation. If you don’t go along with us(or our ally) well…..then you get preemptive “Shock and Awe” and we will act unilaterally if necessary.Eventually you will just give us what we want if you don’t want to end up like Iraq, Afghanistan,Lebanon.
July 28th, 2006 at 4:19 pmHumanist, I cry for you. Poor guy. Poor poor condescending arrogant Humanist. Sniffle. I’ll miss you.
July 28th, 2006 at 4:21 pmPromise Humanist? Talking down to others does not prick up their ears to listen . You were preaching on the WRONG blog and crowd anyway.
July 28th, 2006 at 4:22 pmfunny that they blame us? is it for inaction, or being an arms supplier? Are they upset equally with their arms supplier, and do they blame them for inaction?
July 28th, 2006 at 4:37 pmKID: Mommy, Mommy. NObody like us.
July 28th, 2006 at 4:44 pmMOM: Shut up and write your name on those nuke heads.
#7…..Priceless! With all the gloom and doom today I needed that, Thanx
July 28th, 2006 at 4:44 pmBubbleHead wants us to be attacked by America-haters.
He (BubbleHead) creates the haters because he hates Americans more than anyone on this planet.
Impeach the BubbleHead hater-creater!
July 28th, 2006 at 4:47 pmIf this guy would pull his head out of his ass, he would realize that the problem is that he wasn’t political before. If he had been political, then maybe him and others could have pushed hezbollah out before Israel had to do it. So now that he decides to become political, he decides to support the islamo-fascists. And this guy is a doctor? No wonder the arab world is completely FUBAR.
July 28th, 2006 at 4:56 pmSo we are supposed to frame our foriegn policy around what our enemies think of us. I wonder what the approval rating for Churchill was in Germany in the 1940’s, probably less than 8%.
July 28th, 2006 at 5:07 pmI would rate America a - 0 right now and gwbush would get even worse numbers…
July 28th, 2006 at 5:07 pmThe looneys are destroying the world .
I wonder what the approval rating for Churchill was in Germany in the 1940’s, probably less than 8%.
Comment by Tom — July 28, 2006 @ 5:07 pm
You mean before or after US supported Nazism?
July 28th, 2006 at 5:11 pmI rate Thot a 0 right now… Go join Hezbollah already…
July 28th, 2006 at 5:12 pmJuan, Thanks buddy, I have not laughed that hard in a long time… I am curious, exactly how did the US support Nazism…
July 28th, 2006 at 5:13 pmThis is a secret, buddy. So shhh.
Great Britain and US supported and looked with good eyes the rise of Adolf Hitler since Nazism (an ultra-right system) could pose a threat to the soviets and its spreading communism.
Also a secret…GWB is an asshole.
July 28th, 2006 at 5:19 pmJuan, let me guess, you think Communism is a good thing…
July 28th, 2006 at 5:22 pmAlso a secret…GWB is an asshole.-Juan C
Unfortunately, this is the worst-kept secret on the planet.
Tom - let me guess, you drive a car painted with primary colors (i.e. you’re a redneck).
July 28th, 2006 at 5:27 pmDr Stinker,
Ummm, No, it is actually a Dodge Ram Dually with flames down the side, a blower and a lift kit and 44′ Mickey Thompson Mudders for better traction… I can run the quarter mile in 7 seconds flat… And thats all true or else my name is not Dale Earnheart… Got go to the races… seeya…
July 28th, 2006 at 5:33 pmOne would think that Bush would support the fledgling democracy in Lebanon, but they would be wrong.
July 28th, 2006 at 5:37 pmNo oil Marie. So we don’t give Lebanon the time of day.
July 28th, 2006 at 6:08 pmJuan, let me guess, you think Communism is a good thing…
Comment by Tom — July 28, 2006 @ 5:22 pm
I think everybody should have the same opportunities and the rights of corporations should not be threading human rights, Tom.
According to your right-propaganda, what should I be?
Just not too miss the Nazi issue…here
July 28th, 2006 at 6:19 pmShoot the Hostage, Save the Day. It’s not as if we’re talking about two kidnapped Israeli soldiers who may still be alive, right? I only wish I could’ve taken some joy out of writing this but, alas, there is no schadenfreude here to be had. Just a burgeoning heartsickness.
July 28th, 2006 at 6:49 pmIt’s funny, it’s okay for Lebanon to loose half of their country to terrorists, ooooh, let me say that again, it’s okay for Lebanon to loose half of their COUNTRY TO TERRORISTS, but your worried about U.S. popularity pole numbers in Lebanon?
Hezbollah isn’t a country, they don’t claim territory, and they target civilians….
Yet, Israel is to blame?
Bush is to blame?
HEZBOLLAH IS A TERRORIST ORGANIZATION………….
Does TP know the definition of “terrorists”?
July 28th, 2006 at 7:01 pmIt’s friday night, and I should give a damn about a poll in Lebanon? Hell no. You shouldn’t either. I’m married these days with a wonderful 19 month old son, I don’t give a crap about a poll in Lebanon? You single people, you’d rather stay home tonight and worry about our slide in popularity in Lebanon, instead of going out and doing your thing? Come on people, Israel will take care of the TERRORISTS. Need not be concerned……….
July 28th, 2006 at 7:06 pmBluedog49
Don’t forget the Kennedy connection………..
July 28th, 2006 at 7:07 pmIt’s no secret that Israel is the US illegitimate child, so it tries to pull him out from each and every trouble he gets himself in. But not this time because the legendry israeli army is fighting aimlessly trying to survive the day, and their government is regreting the day they decided to challenge Hezbollah.
Another thing that maybe the reason for this low rate is that the US knew about this war for along time and now they are playing their part by trying to buy israel more time to kill more innocents. So what’s in it for the US, they got the media and people to lower their focus on Iraq.
July 28th, 2006 at 7:07 pmobserver
Way to explain your high regard to terrorism. Hezbollah is not a country, does not claim land, and they TARGET CIVILIANS!!!!!!!!!! Oh, they hide within the civilian community. PUTTING MORE CIVILIANS AT RISK!!!!!!!!!!!
Yeah, YOUR JUST AS RESPONSIBLE WITH THE CIVILIAN DEATH TOLL AS HEZBOLLAH!!!!!!!!!!! You must be proud……..
July 28th, 2006 at 7:13 pmWTF…..if Im a devestated Lebanese im doing one of 3 things:
1. not wasting time on stupid polls
2. finding a way to get to tel aviv and, strapping an explosive vest on and visiting a mall.
3. See number 2 except Im on my way to NY, Chi, LA, Dc
July 28th, 2006 at 7:15 pmBluedog49
I don’t give a damn about if someone likes the U.S. or not man. Where are the “moderate muslims” when it comes to denouncing terrorism??? Where are they???
Good talking to you again though. Maybe someday I’ll convert you….. NOT!!!!!!
July 28th, 2006 at 7:16 pm#43
Very well said. You must be a realist…….. THANK GOD……
July 28th, 2006 at 7:18 pmWell Jim,
Instead of talking like this you should see how Hezbollah’s rates are in the arab world.
I’m not supporting terrorism for a simple fact is that my religion don’t support terrorising safe people. In addition; when the whole thing started Hezbollah didn’t target cevillian israelis, but the intensity of israeli bombs drived them to do so- you see ” an eye fo an eye”.
July 28th, 2006 at 7:21 pmI think Humanist is really Gandalf. Good choice of words but mistaken in his beliefs as he contradicts himself too often. He will be back on this site under a different guise, and perhaps he’ll learn how to climb down from his pedestal of high falutin!! I’ll miss him.
July 28th, 2006 at 7:22 pm#45….Im with Hizbollah….if you know your history…its the battle of Thermopolie for them and arabs. israel & america must be destroyed otherwise …..
July 28th, 2006 at 7:25 pmobserver
Israel did not target civilians. Hezbollah AIMS AT CIVILIANS. ISRAEL CANNOT HELP IT IF HEZBOLLAH HIDES WITH CIVILIANS. You just admitted that Hezbollah started the whole damn mess. And who cares about polls????? Either your right or wrong…..
July 28th, 2006 at 7:26 pmJim
I didn’t say that hezbollah started this. Actually if you watch the news on regular basis you’ll see that Isreal is the one that started this all the way from Palestine to Lebanon.
July 28th, 2006 at 7:30 pm#48
Drugs fry your brain. So does insanity. John Kerry would be proud at the length and height of your flip flop. I hope your okay man…… You sound like Humanist…
July 28th, 2006 at 7:30 pmI don’t understand why when some of you comment, they target the person who wrote not the idea.. !!!!!
July 28th, 2006 at 7:33 pmThe United States hasn’t transformed anyone into being a radical. It’s the preachers in the mosques week after week demanding that all of those who don’t accept true Islam are the enemy of Allah.
Islam is to rule the world. Anything else, is giving in to the great satan.
Moderate Muslims are failing the tests of Islam. They are afraid to speak out about the violence taking place. They are afraid of the typical Muslim today…. Prove me wrong. I wish this wasn’t true.
July 28th, 2006 at 7:37 pmCOMMENT BY JIM is a nitwit who dosnt’ understand hard LIFe as most closeted americans dont. If Im looking at the mutilated bits of what was once my family and the ruins of the house that housed my family that lived there I have only one thing in mind…..revenge…what else do I have to lose? I’m coming after you who perppetrated this. It may not today, tomorrow, but watch out. Multiply that sentiment severmillion times.
July 28th, 2006 at 7:41 pmBluedog49,
You can go there I won’t stop you, but I will have to admit that I unfortunately don’t know about this. I will read about this more then get back to you on it.
But keep onething in mind, back in the thirties Israel didn’t exist but Palestine did and still do.
July 28th, 2006 at 7:42 pmBluedog49
Yeah, your right, Japan hates our ass.
July 28th, 2006 at 7:48 pm#55
I considor myself a moderate muslim and I’m not afraid of speaking my mind. I believe in people of all aspects of life living together in peace and harmony. And this is a reality in my country, and the preachers in the mosques you speak of do not encourage violance as it would be against the teachings of islam. Prophet Mohammad-peace be upon him- encouraged us to invite people to islam and to convey its message the same way he did, but he didn’t say make them be muslims and if they refused kill them.
July 28th, 2006 at 7:49 pmobserver
Then you need to talk to your IDIOT MURDERER BUDDIES…… I had Muslim friends that served along side me in the Army, they weren’t radicals. You don’t know anything about peace. Or do you??????? What country are you from???
July 28th, 2006 at 7:54 pmBluedog49
I would expect you to defend such a colonial thinking considering the US history. Palestine is blessed of being the holy place of three religions, but this is not an excuse for occupying it. Jews have the same right of living in Palestine as christians and muslims, but it doesn’t mean that they can do it by killing the people of Palestine.
July 28th, 2006 at 7:58 pmGive me a break Bluedog49. How long did it take Japan and Germany to get their feet on the ground?????? 30, 40 years? Iraq and Afganistan will take time.
Japan is a major supporter of the U.S. Oh, does the Japenese prefer North Korea, Russia or China instead???????????
Look at Iran before the Shah and after. Which was better?????? I think I know your answer…
July 28th, 2006 at 7:59 pmJim
I’m from the UAE and I also have christian friends who I have known for ever and we get along just fine. Moreover, I have the privilege of being taught by Americans who have lived and helped building the UAE along side with us.
July 28th, 2006 at 8:02 pmJesus Christ…Not a Republican
July 28th, 2006 at 8:04 pmobserver
I have great respect for the UAE. I thought the way our government played “politics” with the “port deals” was totally disgusting….
I can see your views on Israel. I see where your coming from. But let me ask you this if I may….
Is Hezbollah a terrorist organization?????
Bluedog49
colonial thinking was a British and French a hundred years ago. It was a Soviet Union thing thirty years ago. The U.S. does not wish to “RULE THE WORLD”. And you know it man. We have a right to defend ourselves. 9/11 was just the start of what we are about to see world wide…….
July 28th, 2006 at 8:09 pmBluedog49
Have a great weekend my friend……..
July 28th, 2006 at 8:12 pmJim,
July 28th, 2006 at 8:16 pmI would have to say that I don’t believe that it is a terrorist organization because I see them as the only ones who are willing to stand in the face of the israeli arrogance. In addition, from what I saw and heard this organization have done a lot for its community in southern Lebanon espacially hospitals and schools not like Al Qaeda who has oppressed the people of Afganistan espicialy women which is totally against the islamic teachings- at least the one that I read in the Holy Quran.
observer??????
Are you okay??????
July 28th, 2006 at 8:16 pmobserver
Well, you answered my question. I’ll give you credit for that. I don’t agree with it. Hezbollah prides itself on terrorism. And terrorists have NO INTERNATIONAL RIGHTS, OR HUMAN RIGHTS.
Again, I see where your coming from and thanks for your insight. We will never agree on this though……
July 28th, 2006 at 8:20 pmCOMMENT BY JIM - you mentioned that you were in the Army. Seriously, my friend, you sound like you are suffering from Post-Traumatic Stress Syndrome. I’m not trying to insult you…I AM encouraging you to get some help.
July 28th, 2006 at 8:21 pmWhat U asked a question and I answered it frankly. I wish people don’t use violance to solve their problems, but they do. I have to make my self clear it hurts my to see people from both sides dying, people are people everywhere and nobody deserves to suffer and die this way.
July 28th, 2006 at 8:21 pmJim
It seems like we agreed to disagree, but this don’t hurt. Thank U for understanding
July 28th, 2006 at 8:24 pm#75
Total loser. You don’t know what your talking about. That’s all I’m going to say, besides go and play your little video game and pretend to be someone…..
observer
I don’t like killing. But what is terrorism? Scaring people to death?
July 28th, 2006 at 8:27 pmobserver
Thanks for the debate. I hope to see you soon on TP. Exchanging ideas is NEVER a bad thing. God bless you and your family.
July 28th, 2006 at 8:29 pmJim
I agree with you, terrorism involve everything from scaring people to killing them, but don’t put the whole blame on Hezbollah as Israel has it share in it as well.
July 28th, 2006 at 8:30 pmJim
Thank you.
gotta run .. see you all soon :)
July 28th, 2006 at 8:32 pmHumanist, I am one of those who usually agreed with what you said. Occasionally, I was made uncomfortable, because it’s very difficult for an American who loves his/her country, and is trying to protest against U.S. policy… to really believe that we are ALL responsible for any harm our government has done and is currently doing to others.
I agree with you that we are a house divided in this country, and as a result, we are lost. We are a deluded and confused people. Driven by fear and anger, and it cripples our ability to be compassionate. I thank you for your words, and I will think upon them. I’ll miss you. May peace be with you as well.
July 28th, 2006 at 8:58 pm#75
Comment by Jim - your answer to my concern regarding the possibility that you are suffering from PTSS is: Total loser. You don’t know what your talking about. That’s all I’m going to say, besides go and play your little video game and pretend to be someone…..
First of all, I’m a 58 year old woman and don’t waste my time playing video games. Secondly, I think you’re in denial. Any psychologists participating on this board?
July 28th, 2006 at 9:08 pmNico
Gosh, now I have to think: “What if Lebanese think of me badly. What am I todo?!!!!!!!!!”
Don’t you have anything else to write about?
I mean, you really had to work very-very hard to dig out that kind of piece of news. It’s really rare.
I just hope you get paid accordingly to your efforts.
Thanks for your hard work anyway. I know you too have a boss.
July 28th, 2006 at 9:26 pmImpeachcheneythenbush
“Any psychologists participating on this board?”
Yeah.
With all respect to your age, your blog name is somewhat of concern to me.
So, how else may I help you?
July 28th, 2006 at 9:28 pmWe’re collecting videos from the fighting in Lebanon and north Israel — a bit shocking, but they help to get a sense of what the experience on the ground might be like…
http://www.warzone-video.magnify.net
-Simon
July 28th, 2006 at 9:29 pm30 points WOW, I am surprised it has not dropped to ZERO?! Well maybe after Bush attacks Syria!
July 28th, 2006 at 10:22 pmSorry misread the headline > approval of US in Lebanon is down 30 points to 8%! That sounds more like it, but ZERO percent is coming soon!
July 28th, 2006 at 10:25 pmPat Buchanan 2008
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5jFZDbDyinw
No other conservative politician in the USA has such a clear-headed fair vision.
July 28th, 2006 at 11:28 pm#89
p bbb,
i don’t know if you read any of the buchanan stuff in american conservative from 2003-4-5… i am as far from the republican party as osama’s driver, but, damned if good ol’ pat was right on iraq all along. it is quite remarkable really…
if he ran against clinton/obama and mccain/leiberman, i would have to think about working for his campaign. at least he is honest!
July 29th, 2006 at 12:33 amLiberals crack me up. They absolutely despise someone like Buchanan until he fills a need… validating their ideals. Then he’s an OK guy.
Y’all should stick with Howard Dean to validate your position… regardless of how stupid he makes you look!
July 29th, 2006 at 6:34 amhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7pWwH1EzGY4
A touching Hezbollah movie….
July 29th, 2006 at 9:54 am#89 - Pat Buchanan may have his head on straight when it comes to Iraq, but he’s too messed up on other issues for me to have any confidence in him.
July 29th, 2006 at 11:06 amJudd
Sir, I understand you are in charge of this outlet.
Seeing the style of this site management, I do not expect you do respond in any way
(well, maybe forbidding my blog name from the use; which would be quite consistent with the concept of freedom-of-speech you claim to support)
But,
I would greatly appreciate if you could spare a few moments of your most precious time to read this.
Below analysis is in no way includes, reflects or relates to blog posts that is a separate concern. It is solely based on your selection of news pieces presented and the comments made by your staff members that is a group of accredited professionals. The problem is what for and how the professional qualities of your staff are being used.
ThinkProgress News/Blogs web site currently is a perfect example of one out of many biased extreme-left ideological outlets. These kinds of media reflect features that are very characteristical of the purpose they serve and have been most common across the media in a past and nowadays.
The biased extreme-left ideological purpose they serve is a BRAINWASH of the worst kind, reminiscent of the worst examples of media abuse:
- Soviet Union’s total government-controlled brainwash machine
- propaganda machine by Dr. Joseph Goebbels
Specifically, there was no time when the Soviet’s propaganda had been worse then the body you, Judd, are in charge of. Even in the worst times Soviet propaganda did present facts, news and opinions from “the other sideâ€, “the ideological enemyâ€.
You do not do that.
These claims are also supported by the following almost military style methods this site employs (in short – like Lenin said – “anything goes†kind of methods)
- the selection of negligent value news that further are being blown out of proportion with the goal to deceit and diverge the attention of your audience
- the elaborate selection of events presented within an article to serve the above goal
- the content of comments to the news made by your staff members serve the purpose of creating one-sided view; thus attempting to convince (brainwash) the reader as oppose to provide the reader with information, so the reader could build ones opinion on ones own
All the three items above are the 101 of propaganda brainwash.
In conclusion it is worthwhile to mention to you, Judd, that democracy is our heritage. It is the responsibility of mine and your generations to pass this heritage over to the next generations of Americans, hopefully making it stronger.
You, Judd, and your staff members are being used for the opposite purpose: to make democracy weaker, hopefully to diminish the political and intellectual influence of democracy.
Thank you very much for your time. Very Truly,
July 29th, 2006 at 12:14 pmjames riser or PatrioticLiberalChristian or hister or katy or whatever blog name u use:
I have an outstanding debt to pay:
“tonight is slow…i welcome you to expand on your attack of what you believe are my epistemological roots…â€
C’mon, com out - this is your last chance to claim the price.
July 29th, 2006 at 12:15 pmOne Jew > go post your right wing diatribes on RedState.com! TP is for progressives and NOT Bush loving fascists like yourself! Israel needs more soldiers, so go join up today please!
July 29th, 2006 at 12:20 pmJay Randal
go to:
http://thinkprogress.org/ 2006/ 07/ 28/ manage-calm/ #comments
Read #440.
As for your own benefit, remember the song?
“Just you wait, Mr. Randal,
July 29th, 2006 at 12:32 pmJust you wait”
One Jew nope just you wait > Judd will take care of you, not me!
July 29th, 2006 at 12:46 pm# 93. Zooey:
Yep, I concur.
July 29th, 2006 at 12:58 pmOne Jew: zzzzzzzzzzzz
July 29th, 2006 at 1:14 pmJuan C
“zzzzzzzzzzzz”
that’s how it sounds when Juan C is thinking Progress.
July 29th, 2006 at 1:51 pmJay Randal
“One Jew nope just you wait > Judd will take care of you, not me!”
You are right for once.
Because your own bottom is “shaking-it-baby” and
July 29th, 2006 at 1:54 pmbecause you tink Judd is free-speach admirer Jay Randal-style.
“U.S. Image Among Lebanese Plummets 30 Points” Headline by Nico
******This little nugget sums up what is perpetually wrong with progs - this weird need to be liked and admired. Who cares?? Hezbollah has been busy providing social services for an underserved public who lived through waves of civil war and occupation. Instead of blaming the root of their troubles on Hezbollah, the Lebanese govenment did not have the will or willingness to “get rid of the cockroaches in their kitchen”.
So, dear Progs, if every terrorist, every ax-murderer, every totalitarian, every Islamic fanatic, etc. on the planet does not like me - I don’t care. I NEVER pet a rabid dog….
July 29th, 2006 at 3:31 pmDear Mrs. Aphrodite
Yeah, at first I laughed loud, then wrote #84.
July 29th, 2006 at 6:29 pmWhat a mensch you are Mr. Jew! But helping these poor prog unfortunates is truly a valuable public service - but can you imagine how miserable they must be with that much jealousy and envy in their hearts??? Who knew?? Oyyy….
July 29th, 2006 at 7:18 pmThe first sentence is my FAVOURITE “Nico Nugget” - “The ongoing violence in the Middle East, which the Bush administration has tacitly endorsed,…” is a bald faced misrepresentation. (”A BIG FAT LIE” for the multi-syllabic challenged.) It implies that the Bush administration endorsed the killing of a settler, the encroachment of a border and subsequent kidnapping of three and killing of eight soldiers, the rocket fire ito Israel AND the Israeli response. (Nico, there are a few toooo many events under your umbrella of “ongoing violence”) If your inability to distinguish “cause and effect” is any indicator of political success, the Dems are NOT going to get farin November.
Happy Weekend….
July 29th, 2006 at 7:37 pmRE: #94 One Jew launches personal attacks and lies against Judd and ThinkProgress
This guy calling himself “One Jewâ€, apparently attempting to disparage Jews, has been around for quite some time using a variety of aliases. I recognize his illiterate, incoherent style which attempts to confuse rather than respond to the points put before him. His responses are mostly personal attacks such as the one he launched against Judd and ThinkProgress, designed to provoke anger rather than an intellectually honest discussion. He was apparently so dumbfounded by the following post that it provoked several unsuccessful attempts to piece together a semi-coherent response:
July 29th, 2006 at 9:56 pmI want to make several points because many of you will disagree and agree with parts of what I say. Feel free to criticize but everyone will agree with something.
1. ON the issue of Israel, there is a split in the Democratic party. We can agree to disagree.
July 29th, 2006 at 10:42 pm2. Yes Bush is a total screwup on foreign policy
3. Notwithstanding such, Israel has a right to wipe out Hezbollah. It’s a terrorist group for real.
4. Hezbollah has fired over 1700 rockets in the past 2 weeks at civilian targets. I won’t put them on the same moral level as the IDF which does its best to try and avoid civilian casualties.
5. Iraq was a BIG mistake and undermines Israel here even though Israel is in the right.
6. Kofi Annan is an Anti semite as is Bush’s puppet Maliki in Iraq.
7. For the past 40 years the media has had a conservative bias. NBC, CBS, ABC, and CNN (last 25 yrs) all lean rightward. Fox is just off the charts. So it’s good to have sites like Think Progress to show you how biased the media really is. Here the reporting is more to the center than anything from the networks.
8. Initially Palestine was supposed to be in Jordan. Israel is the size of New Jersey, the rest of the Middle East is bigger than Brazil. Why should we carve up New Jersey when Brazil is exponentially larger in size?
9. If we had an honest media, there would be no conservatives in power.
10. The vast majority of jews in this country are reform to moderate. Only about 15% of Jews represent these right wing orthodox types. However, our media tries to portray them as “jews” while shafting the other 85%. These right wingers do NOT speak for most jews although they pretend they do.
11. The Middle East was much safer 6 years ago.
12. Bush is the worst thing to happen for Israel. Bush has endangered Israel’s survival and long term existence by his policies. There is nothing Pro Israel about Bush.
13. There is a small element in the Democratic Party that is anti-Semitic. They are to be denounced. However, being against Israel’s policies does not automatically make you anti semitic.
14. There is more anti-semitism in the republican party led by Mel Gibson, James Baker, Pat Buchanan, Arnold Schwarzaneggar, David Duke, Pat Robertson, Jerry Falwell, and all these bible freaks.
#108
Spot on Dave!
July 29th, 2006 at 10:55 pmTruely sad and discouraging… Not that bush could get any worse in my eyes…lol
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July 29th, 2006 at 11:15 pmThere have been a number of unsubstantiated, ridiculous and highly unethical accusations posted to my open letter to Judd that I feel necessary to address:
1. This letter is not an “attack†as some speculated, not “hate-filled†as others incriminated and not a proof of “Conspiracy Theory†as many panicked.
This letter is motivated by my respect to Judd, his professional qualities and trust in his judgment. Otherwise, I would not have wasted his time reading it (hopefully) and my time writing it.
This letter also serves as an example of unbiased search for truth and how to argue in a free-speech fashion in a democratic society that we (the people of USA) are. We all have a different intellectual background and different life experiences, so I have shared mine with Judd. It is up to him to recognize the value.
I do not have agenda. If you just be patient and exercise attention you might notice I am not very happy with extreme right politics either. In fact, one using enough attention while reading my comments, may have already noticed that, since this subject was touched in my discussions with fellow ThinkProgress members of audience.
I was irritated at times in my comments. But I never did ridicule anyone except in response to offense. Offense in discussions comes in variety of forms and shapes. If this subject (offense in discussions) found worthwhile – I will elaborate. One thing for sure – since I was on the site the level of explicit and offensive profanity on the site has decreased. Do I have anything to do with it? I think not. It is merely an observation.
2. The truly original and authentic message has been posted only at:
http://thinkprogress.org/ 2006/ 07/ 27/ armitage-mideast/ #comments
http://thinkprogress.org/ 2006/ 07/ 28/ us-lebanon/ #comments
http://thinkprogress.org/2006/07/26/new-nie/#comments
http://thinkprogress.org/ 2006/ 07/ 28/ manage-calm/ #comments
http://thinkprogress.org/ 2006/ 07/ 28/ blair-advice/ #comments
followed by my challenge to james riser (who admitted to the usage of other blog names) to continue the argument she/he put forward.
These 5 URLs are the only places on the Internet or any other media where authentic message was posted.
I know for many from the audience (for whatever reason) it would be hard to believe that one may actually be ethical enough not to use variety of names, not to place post on different web-sites and use one’s own thoughts and observations.
I am simply being ethical. That is one of my virtues and I intend to hold-on to it despite all the provocations. Believe me – I did have much harder challenges in my life. Being simply ethical is easy for me.
If it turns out my open letter to Judd makes its’ way to other web sites – I am not doing it; it is out of my control; it simply means someone liked them and found it worthwhile to distribute. For what I am being grateful not because of my deficient self-esteem but rather for my time spent did not go down in vain.
3. I also said that I am a professional software engineer (sorry, leftisnuts, but I am about to substantiate this).
My current project is to reverse-engineer and re-write Microsoft Windows transport communications core, so Windows clients can perform IP based communications in transport neutral fashion as UNIX and LINUX allow to.
Greatly appreciate everyone’s time spent on reading my posts. Thank you.
July 30th, 2006 at 9:47 amPat Buchanan may have his head on straight when it comes to Iraq, but he’s too messed up on other issues for me to have any confidence in him.
Comment by Zooey
July 30th, 2006 at 2:47 pm—————–
Indeed,Zooey.
Buchanan has been called David Duke-lite,and rightfully so.
The number of victims in Qana Massacare is now 60- including 36 children.
When is the world going to take actions against the murderers behind this crime?!!!
July 30th, 2006 at 4:44 pmobserver
Let me see, like - Now. That’s what Israel is doing - getting rid of Hazi-Bull-aH.
Responsibility lies entirely on the terrorists they used these kids as human shields.
July 30th, 2006 at 9:21 pm#111
Is it just me or does this guy who calls himself “One Jew” actually believe anyone cares about his site spamming, “please look at me” monologues, that I keep running into on multiple threads? One Jew, get a clue and put on a helmet when you ride the short bus.
July 31st, 2006 at 2:19 amThe 8% of people who thinks yet that the USA is a great country are USA expatriates wishing for a lift before they get bombed.
July 31st, 2006 at 7:59 amOh yeah, like I really give a rat’s patootie what the Lebanese population thinks of America. Gee, we can either let Hezbollah murder the Israelis or we can be popular among the Lebanese Muslims. It’s really a difficult choice, one that’s liable to keep me up nights.
You folks REALLY have your priorities straight.
July 31st, 2006 at 11:16 am#114 - “The number of victims in Qana Massacare is now 60- including 36 children.
When is the world going to take actions against the murderers behind this crime?!!!”
Comment by observer
******Once again, “observer” demonstrates an inability to be observant. Stockpiling weapons, intermingling with civilians, hoping children are among the victims so as to exploit the “murderous aggression” of Israelis - are all hallmarks of of an evil terror group.
Golda Meir was certainly correct when she said, “Peace will come when the Arabs love their children more than they hate us.”
July 31st, 2006 at 2:27 pmYou guys .. stop using the same old lie that Israel is telling to explain its sick behavior.
I’m not taking anyone’s side, but a murder is murder .. History is repeating it self .. Believe me one day Israel will end up with nobody in its side, maybe not today but soon .. God won’t allow the injustice to continue.
Don’t you dare say that we don’t love our children, it’s an insult to every mother who have lost one in the war.
July 31st, 2006 at 4:04 pmobserver
“Believe me…”
Why would we do that?
You are strangely convinced anti-Israel (possibly anti-Semite).
You also practice extremism.
You are not an “observer†as you imply (or a very biased and a bad one).
Now. Here is what you must “believe†instead:
The WWIII has begun in 1948. The World was ignoring it until 9/11.
Now the WWWIII is in a different phase – the phase of active fight against terror.
The WWWIII will end when there is a Peace for Israel.
Take my advise: go to bed, get some rest then think it over.
Will you?
August 1st, 2006 at 8:33 amI can’t be ant-Israel because I don’t recognize it as a country, and I surely am not anti-Semite because I believe in all religions and prophets prior to Islam. Finally, you can’t call anyone who is not taking your side an extremist, but if we did it your way then your are a jewish extremist. I hate to talk like this, but I learnt to bring myself to people’s mental level so that they can understand me.
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