52%.
By on Jul 29th, 2006 at 3:41 pm
52%.
Percentage of Americans who want all U.S. troops withdrawn from Iraq within 12 months, according to a new Gallup Poll. In the summer of 1970, a Gallup Poll found 48% of Americans wanted all U.S. troops withdrawn from Vietnam within 12 months.
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That’s a remarkable comparison when you take into consideration summer of 1970 was after the Kent State incident.
July 29th, 2006 at 3:51 pmIn the summer of 1970, a Gallup Poll found 48% of Americans wanted all U.S. troops withdrawn from Vietnam within 12 months.
July 29th, 2006 at 3:53 pm- – By that reckoning, we have at least three more years of war in Iraq. Terrific.
so what about these polls. The regime ignores the will of the people. until the populace takes to the streets and advances the interests of the country as defined by the constitution its chaos as usual
July 29th, 2006 at 3:55 pmVictim’s sister alleges cover up
Tonight, allegations of a cover up twenty-three years ago, in connection with confessed Ark-La-Tex serial killer Robert Browne.
The sister of one of Browne’s possible victims is speaking exclusively to News 12, saying Browne could have been caught years ago.
Kathy Cole is raging, not only about how her sister was murdered, but even more about how she believes authorities handling the investigation, in the earlier eighties, tried to cover up the crime.
http://www.ksla.com/Global/story.asp?S=5213149
July 29th, 2006 at 3:56 pmAnd yet the Military claims that we may be Iraq until 2016. Have fun dealing with that, Bush. If we’re still in Iraq in 2008, the Dems will take back the White House without question.
July 29th, 2006 at 3:56 pmIraq is most definitely Vietnam Redux. None of the parallels surprise me anymore. But I’m hoping it surprises those who still don’t get it.
July 29th, 2006 at 4:03 pmWhy does most of America hate America?
July 29th, 2006 at 4:05 pmright now in america the will of the people is not only being ignored its not even acknowledged by the WH, Congress & the Supreme Court. In other words we have repression. Other countries threw their repressors aside (France 1789, Russia 1917) . The lazy ass americans of course do not realize that they are metaphorically being slowly boiled to death.
July 29th, 2006 at 4:06 pmUh, oh. More Vietnam yearning.
July 29th, 2006 at 4:06 pmI don’t think Iraq has been that much like Vietnam. It’s a very different situation. There are certainly many parallels regarding how the war has been “sold” to Joe average American (fight them over there instead of here, etc) but I don’t think there’s much comparison in terms of the actual war.
What we have at present appears to be largely sectarian violence, with US troop casualties on the decline (because Iraqi on Iraqi fighting has increased). I’m no historian, but I don’t recall a similar situation in Vietnam.
Unfortunately, I don’t think W has the mettle to pull us out. And the Republicans won’t stand up to him. Heck, let’s face it – even the Dems can’t get their ducks in order on when we should pull out. Maybe things will change if they take both the Senate and House in November, but I’m not actually sure.
July 29th, 2006 at 4:09 pm#8 – The fact you bemoan the SCOTUS ignoring the “will of people” reveals a lot about your understanding of our Constitution.
July 29th, 2006 at 4:11 pmI simply cannot Get my head round the other 48% are they nutz, blood thirsty murdering thiefs do not have no brains at all ?????selfish they want the oil stolen
July 29th, 2006 at 4:11 pmWe were still in Viet Nam years after that 1970 poll.
July 29th, 2006 at 4:13 pmTime Capsule,
Americans don’t like “losing”. Unfortunately, the concept of a Phyrric victory is also foreign to them.
July 29th, 2006 at 4:15 pmBush has already said he expects the next president to have to deal with Iraq – exhibiting his total irresponsibility and unwilingness to admit his failures.
July 29th, 2006 at 4:15 pm#8 “americans of course do not realize that they are metaphorically being slowly boiled to death.”
July 29th, 2006 at 4:17 pmWe frogs will all be croaking unless we can dump Bush and his incompetent and belligerent administration.
Why does most of America hate America?
Comment by blogenfreude — July 29, 2006 @ 4:05 pm
They are mostly frightened and in “war mode” vis a vis Jim from the thread below. So inured and terrorised, that they are incapable of empathising with other humans finding themselves in the identical situation he was on 9/11, and considering the Geneva Conventions “evil”.
Sympathy is required and lots of therapy.
July 29th, 2006 at 4:18 pmWhen the BubbleHead daughters go fight in Iraq, then and only then will I say stay the course.
July 29th, 2006 at 4:26 pmi agree…. i want the troops out of iraq so that they can go to israel and kill lebanese children with george bush’s bombs!
it is good to see a poll that i can agree with.
July 29th, 2006 at 4:32 pmWhy does most of America hate America?
Comment by blogenfreude — July 29, 2006 @ 4:05 pm
‘America’ is not, by definition, a group of war-mongering, knuckle-dragging, murderous neoconsevative, misleading democratis, and bush crime family sychophantssuch as yourself. the poll shows that there are a sufficient number of people that do not agree with the ‘america’ you sick bastards have created.
get it?
July 29th, 2006 at 4:35 pmoops… joe didn’t say #20, i did.
July 29th, 2006 at 4:36 pmRepublican President Richard M. Nixon didn’t “cut and run” from Vietnam until 1973. He learned that trick from Republican Dwight D. Eisenhower who “cut and ran” from Korea in 1953.
-GSD
July 29th, 2006 at 4:37 pmI have a hard time wrapping my senile old brain about all the hoopla about ending the Middle East violence by getting Israel to kowtow to the same terrorists beating the shit out of us in Iraq. The last time I looked at a map (albeit not the same map DUHbya uses–Click on Clyde) Iraq was in the Middle East and there sure as hell is violence there. How can any thinking individual condemn Israel and concur with Bush when they are supposedly doing the same thing? It is really as most of us knew all along: Israel is fighting Arab/Muslim terrorists; Bush is stealing Iraqi oil and our tax dollars (corporate profits for big oil and Halliburton). The same old lip service is getting tiresome. We must impeach the whole bunch and quit feeding the Saudis and Israel will do the job right.
July 29th, 2006 at 4:40 pmWith all the high level talk about the War on Terror and the War on Drugs, overlooked is the fact that terror and drugs are concepts. Disagreements about concepts are csettled through debate and diplomacy. Wars are, by definition, fought against people with the intent of killing those same people. The side that kills the most people wins the war. Every body seems to abhor the killing of women and children in a war. Being a man I would outwardly agree but given the choice I would do what was necessary to save my own big butt. And this concept was developed when men were men and fought one another. Now they fight the Government so they can marry one another. What with all the equal opportunity BS, Bush twins excepted, the person pointing the gun, missile, bomb, or WMD, at you may very well be of the female persuasion intent upon wasting your dumb ass. Then there is the old Shit-kicking song that implored mothers not to let their boys grow up to be cowboys (Babs B. should have paid attention). Now it is drug dealers and terrorists. The one sure way to insure that they do not grow up to be terrorists and drug dealers is to see that they don’t grow up. War is hell! People get killed. Give up on the bull shit about the “War” on terror. Call it what it is: Murder for Oil. Or declare it a war against Arabs and Muslims, which is what it really is, kill enough of them of all sexes and ages until the rest of them give up and never face East again. Then come home to peace , gasoline at $1.50 per gallon, Bushco in jail, no tax cuts for the rich, no outlandish corporate profits, and the Diamondbacks and Mariners in the world series.
July 29th, 2006 at 5:41 pmUh, oh. More Vietnam yearning.
Comment by Chase — July 29, 2006 @ 4:06 pm
Only you neocons yearn for war. The rest of us detest it.
What are you still doing here typing – your country really needs you to suit up and go to Iraq. We’d even be happy to pitch in and fly you over there. One way of course.
July 29th, 2006 at 5:45 pmdixie:
July 29th, 2006 at 5:54 pm*poof*
#25 – Clyde. Sorry my friend, but that is one of the more irrational statements I’ve seen here on this board. I checked out your website, and while amusing, doesn’t seem to have much of a purpose other than sarcasm (with the cartoons and all). I suspect you are very young, like 16 or younger. Am I correct?
July 29th, 2006 at 6:28 pmWe aren’t leaving Iraq until Rumsfeld and Cheney have drained the Treasury. These men will spend eternity listening to the wails of the children they so horribly subjected to the misery they inflicted with their selfish and foolish “war” in Iraq. I hate these people.
July 29th, 2006 at 6:35 pm#28 Impeach
You claim “that” is one of the more irrational statements you have seen. Please elucidate rather than use a vague pronoun for a general denunciation. What part of the statement don’t you understand and what part of the statement is untrue? It may upset your sensitivities but, believe it or not that was the purpose. Think for your self man instead of, as they say, drinking the kool-aid. You are very perceptive about my web site. The only purpose is “Bush Bashing” with sarcasm. Your compliment about my age is refreshing as I am near 16, for the 5th time. We have a 12 year-old GREAT-Granddaughter. So I guess you got one out of three–not too bad but keep on reading and you may improve. I have lived through every war the US has been in since 1933 and have participated in all except the first one and last two Bush League wars. My opinion of war still stands. Irrational or not, war is intended to kill people and should not be an excuse to line corporate coffers.
July 29th, 2006 at 6:46 pm#17: So inured and terrorised, that they are incapable of empathising with other humans finding themselves in the identical situation he was on 9/11, and considering the Geneva Conventions “evilâ€.
You definitely misunderstood the intent of my post. The point was to show the absurdity of the argument that right-wingers understand the distinction between “good” and “evil,” while left-wingers do not. Please go back and re-read it.
July 29th, 2006 at 8:09 pmThe anti-war majority, Glenn Reynolds, and the dishonest tactics of the pro-war right
By: Glenn Greenwald @ 4:41 PM – PDT
http://www.crooksandliars.com/posts/2006/07/29/the-anti-war-majority-glenn-reynolds-and-the-dishonest-tactics-of-the-pro-war-right/
lots of good reading from there…
July 29th, 2006 at 8:15 pmoh I agree our troop should withdrawn from Iraq.
July 29th, 2006 at 8:26 pmRE: #30 War for profit is bad for business
Well said Clyde. Here’s another making a similar statement:
July 29th, 2006 at 10:17 pm
Cheney’s war in Iraq went exactly as planned–all the oil is still in the ground in Iraq and the price has gone from about $20/barrel in 1999 to about $75/barrel today. Further instability in the Middle East will spike oil prices even higher. Cheney and the neocons don’t need any more money (though they will eventually drain the Treasury into their supporters’ pockets) they are after the power controlling the oil taps will give. People are dying in Irag and Lebanon so Cheney can be the emporer of the oil.
July 29th, 2006 at 10:40 pmPAMPERO FIRPO, WILD BULL OF THE PAMPAS!!!!
cool! miss you big guy…
July 29th, 2006 at 10:57 pm#11 right now, sir, the constitution isnt worth a damn. dont you think ? maybe you should read the federalist papers and gain some understanding of what the founding fathers hoped to avoid i.e. the re-emergence of tyranny in the U.S. dope
July 30th, 2006 at 7:27 amI want our troops out of Iraq immediately > the damn fools in the Congress must cut-off the funds for the Iraq occupation fiasco, and inform President Bush that he and Cheney will be impeached for “High Crimes” against this nation, as well as for crimes against the Iraqi people, and lying to Congress on the war in the first place!
July 30th, 2006 at 8:45 amThese men will spend eternity listening to the wails of the children they so horribly subjected to the misery they inflicted with their selfish and foolish “war†in Iraq. I hate these people.
July 30th, 2006 at 10:28 amThese men will spend eternity listening to the wails of the children they so horribly subjected to the misery they inflicted with their selfish and foolish “war†in Iraq. I hate these people.
Comment by Rachel — July 30, 2006 @ 10:28 am
No offense Rachel, but a light bulb just went off…
This is why we tolerate these people. We (most people – I’m an Atheist) think that there will be divine retrobution to take care of their crimes against humanity. But what if there isn’t? Then they’ve been allowed to fester at will…
We have to stand together and say enough is enough. Stop passing the responsiblity for dealing with them to divine entities in after-lives that probably do not exist.
July 30th, 2006 at 10:40 amI want our troops out of Iraq immediately > the damn fools in the Congress must cut-off the funds for the Iraq occupation fiasco, and inform President Bush that he and Cheney will be impeached for “High Crimes†against this nation, as well as for crimes against the Iraqi people, and lying to Congress on the war in the first place!
Comment by Jay Randal
July 30th, 2006 at 11:50 am————————-
In your dreams–and mine.
#40 Of course there will never be divine retribution. Once they are dead, they are dead and most evil people get away with their evil deeds. If only there was more justice in this world.
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