Rush Limbaugh on the Qana bombing,
By on Aug 1st, 2006 at 11:17 am
Rush Limbaugh on the Qana bombing,
which left dozens of Lebanese dead, including many children: “[U]ntil those civilians start paying a price for propping up these kinds of regimes, it’s not going to end, folks.” Billmon finds that Limbaugh isn’t the only believer in collective punishment.
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Isn’t this the exact same kind of thinking that the Sept11 Hijackers used to justify their attack on the World Trade Center?
August 1st, 2006 at 11:22 amHizbollah had been launching rocket attacks into border settlements, resulting it must be noted in very few casualties. There is not much difference in the casualty rates inflicted for example, on the British by the IRA. This is not to excuse it you understand, but to put it in context.
Despite several decades of terrorism, the British never bombed Dublin City or our airports, blockaded Dublin port, or took any action that killed hundreds of Southern Irish civilians indiscriminatley, and make no mistake, these options were on the table.
Certainly they made some blunders, and did some dreadful things, but in the main and luckily for all involved, cooler heads prevailed.
Israel would have been much wiser to work carefully with the Lebanese government to eliminate the problem that way, as the British did with Ireland. What does Britian have next door now? A prosperous and confident friendly economy with whom they share a common internal customs border, as well as regular and enthusiastic co-operation on many issues within the EU.
Israel could do far worse than to follow that model, they have been trying collective punishment for 50 years, and you certainly couldn’t claim that it’s working. Time to look to conflicts were there has been widespread resolution, and try a different approach.
August 1st, 2006 at 11:25 amThe Israelis have said the same thing… the people are not allowed stand up for themselves when Israel invaded Lebanon during the 1980s… if they do they all are targets as well (remember hezbollah is not a bunch of foreigners … they are lebaneis). Which is fine if this was WWII and those were germans… but this isnt WWII… this is the continuation of Zionism…. until zionism is defeated just like KKKism was defeated and Apartheid was defeated then the killing of civilians for racist reasons will go on. When will the arabs (and persians) learn that racism is best defeated non-violently? There are real examples to base this on.
August 1st, 2006 at 11:29 amAbout a week ago, Rush was explaining that we needed to decapitate the head of the snake that supports Hizbollah. You know like Iran and Syria.
That seemed similar to what the other guy said before 9/11 when he was mad at Saudi Arabia.
Rush and Osama sitting in a tree …
August 1st, 2006 at 11:32 amSo that’s the secret to winning elections!
Brilliant, Rush, simply brilliant.
August 1st, 2006 at 11:35 amWhen will the arabs (and persians) learn that racism is best defeated non-violently? There are real examples to base this on.
Comment by Gerald Gibson — August 1, 2006 @ 11:29 am
When indeed. They really need a Ghandi. Even with a Ghandi type figure though, you have to wonder if this conflict could be taken off the boil.
All it seems to take is one palestinian with a rock and a greivance, and a settler with a gun to set the roller coaster off on another blood drenched spin:-(
August 1st, 2006 at 11:35 amHere’s a spot-on commentary on the ‘collective punishment’ doctrine.
http://photos1.blogger.com/ blogger/ 5037/ 1238/ 1600/ Lidice_1942_Beirut_2006_by_Latuff2.jpg
The Israelis should be ashamed….why aren’t they?
August 1st, 2006 at 11:36 amOh yes, let’s talk about a final solution. How many million dead do you want Rush?
And what about the last “final solution”? It wasn’t very final was it.
No, this is just another message of hate rolling off the lips of Rush and other Nazi like thinkers — if you can call it thinking.
What this is is total madness. To paraphrase a TV ad, madness gone wild.
August 1st, 2006 at 11:37 amIt’s called war you terror apologists. It’s a shame that women and children die, but it happens. You didn’t seem to mind this when you nominated John war criminal Kerry.
I fear the radical right will get too much power in this nation. The left’s self-hatred will doom them again in the fall and we’ll be left with more Republicans.
August 1st, 2006 at 11:43 amIt’s pure guilt by association. Again we try to use logic, IE: the idea that hey if you are a State you are responsible for your inhabitant’s behavior. Nice idea but when is the Administration going to get it that rules of conventional War don’t work in every democracy and civilian casualties, whether by innocent circumstances or not will always turn the people’s opinion. If they had any sense what so ever why not just nuke Syria, get over it and take the heat for it. Think about it from a hard, cold, Don Rumsfeld point of sheer numbers, if we had just nuked Saddam LESS people may have been killed.Rush is just trying to justify the Administrations argument that restraint with escalation works. Obviously it doesn’t so I expect more drastic violence before it’s over. BTW the other argument floating is that Qana was staged to look like a massacre. Ugly.
August 1st, 2006 at 11:51 amIf that’s what you believe, then you have no room to talk when American civilians die because of terrorist attacks, because we are in a war against terrorists, and this stuff just happens in a war? correct?
August 1st, 2006 at 11:52 amRush needs to get off his Viagra bender
August 1st, 2006 at 11:56 amDruggie Limpblow has divided more people, spread more hate,
August 1st, 2006 at 12:01 pmand supported more evil than many of the extremists he’s preaching
about.
Druggie; CHILL! You never served, you’re not an elected official, you’re
a piss poor example of an American male & it’s time for you to STFU.
Go take some more Viagra, just stay away from little kids afterwards.
Limbaugh is a fat putrid man who deserves to be put into prison for the rest of his worthless evil life > shame on him!
August 1st, 2006 at 12:04 pm[…] Limbaugh Favors Collective Punishment - who cares about civilians? They had it coming to them anyway, right? […]
August 1st, 2006 at 12:05 pmWhat part of War Crime doesn’t Rush understand?
August 1st, 2006 at 12:06 pmIt’s called war you terror apologists. It’s a shame that women and children die, but it happens.
Terrorism cannot be defeated militarily. Not unless you are prepared to kill every man, woman and child with a possible greivance. Now, you may well be in favour of that, in that case lets have your cards on the table, like the forthright poster and his “Nuke ‘em” option.
In point of fact, the dose of outrage, misery, pain, anguish, horror, death, powerlessness and mayhem experienced by Iraqis and Lebanese daily is arguably the ideal medium to culture the most virulent strain of terrorism imaginable. Won’t our children be pleased?
If you can’t grasp the perspective of the other “sideâ€, you need look no further than your own understandable and human bloodlust after 9/11. Do you think you are the only human to ever feel this way? Now, make the loss not simply a fellow citizen, or a work colleague, but a sibling, a lover, a parent, a child or a baby. Do you see?
Terrorism can not be defeated militarily. It never has been, and it never will be. It is a utopian, blood soaked fools paradise to think otherwise.
So ask yourself the question, are you prepared to see millions of people killed, perhaps tens of thousands of American troops, global economic collapse due to the inevitable energy crisis that this will bring on? Are you independently wealthy? Do you own your own home? Are you able to heat your home without electricity? Do you have a short daily commute?
If your answer to any of the above is NO, then you need this thing to stop, right now.
August 1st, 2006 at 12:08 pmGee rush let’s use your illogic, until the people who “buy” oxycontin are shot, they’ll keep propping up those drug dealers that threten us all. Step up to the wall, want a blindfold?
August 1st, 2006 at 12:16 pmAs this goes on, it is becoming obvious that the remaining Bush supporters are deranged and sociopathic. They are unable to see past their hate. It will benefit the world, if we can place them back into the pandora’s box they came from.
August 1st, 2006 at 12:20 pmgee, rush, guess the american people are stuck till they pay.
August 1st, 2006 at 12:20 pmRush is a stupid, self-losthing goy who should be crucified. Mel Gibson could drive the nails.
August 1st, 2006 at 12:29 pmexpress your gratefulness to this great american hero, rush, in a note to his home. he needs your support and your love.
August 1st, 2006 at 12:33 pmditto to that rush! i agree, we must kill their children before we can kill their parents…er, i mean, before we won’t have to kill their parents–but, we have to kill their parents too?
what am i dittoing again?
oh, yeah, the children hate us for our freedom?? the parents hate us for our freedom?
i’m confused a bit but i know you will set me straight. thanks, rush! big fan, first time caller, long time listener. go america!
August 1st, 2006 at 12:43 pmRepublicans have used terrorists for leverage against the American people for so long, it’s no wonder they’ve begun to think just like them.
August 1st, 2006 at 12:50 pm.
It’s called war …
Yes, and there are rules to war. All clear now? Or are you just in your own little movie?
Saying “war” doesn’t give anyone a blank check for ethnic cleansing and terrorism.
August 1st, 2006 at 12:52 pm.
Rush should carefully examine his language.
“When people start paying a price”…
Meaning citizens who support a government must “pay the price” (of death, presumably) in orer to atone for their support for their beliefs. This “paying the price” by civillians goes by another name in the USA. It is called terrorism. The people who died on 911 were “paying this price” for their beliefs (though from the Al Quaeda viewpoint and not the Rush Limbaugh viewpoint).
Stop advocating terrorism, Mr. Limbaugh…or pay the price yourself next time.
August 1st, 2006 at 12:54 pmIf you are against the killing of children you are for the terrorists. A blackhole spin.
August 1st, 2006 at 12:54 pmInstead of addressing his audience as “folks” why doesn’t he just call them what they are; Dirty F*ckers
August 1st, 2006 at 12:59 pmDon’t forget that John Aravosis is in agreement here with both Rush and Osama.
Israel airstrike kills 34 children…but…
Is this just provoking discussion?
Well, in context of his earlier writings:
Israel is being too nice
The big one.
And after we blame them, the obvious course of action is to kill them.
August 1st, 2006 at 12:59 pmIt is amazing how those on the right (include MM’s latest tirade) are making Ward Churchill’s essay from 9/12/01 seem downright reasonable.
I am still wondering if Olmert had his fingers crossed behind his back when he told Rice he would stop bombing for 48 hours.
August 1st, 2006 at 1:11 pmArabs perceive the Qana act in much the same way as they do the first in the category, the Dier Yaseen massacre of 1947, where around 135 older men, women and children were slaughtered to give a lesson to neighboring villages who were resisting the Zionist gangs orders to leave and head off to their own diaspora. The Dier Yaseen masacre is well documented now by (honest) Isreali historians.
But Israel’s demonstration of unlimited force against those who stand in the way is one thing, and a datstardly act of blasting a string of ambulances or hitting a shelter, echos Dier Yaseen and accords with the image that Israel have built for itslef in the eyes of the Arabs, so-much-so that that it served as a twisted justification for the few Arabs who approve of exactly similar acts perpetrated by extremists in their ranks.
This policy is so self-destructive. The anger and hate they generate do not necessarily result always in irrational acts - as expected by the perpetrators. They eventually lead to the assumption of leadership of thoughtful and ponderous leaders - such as Hassan Nassrullah, who begins to turn the tables, and deprive Israel of the moral imperatives that drove so many Europeans to help create it amidst the Paelstinians people and on their soil.
August 1st, 2006 at 1:23 pm#25
August 1st, 2006 at 1:29 pmYour right, but I don’t think these terrorists are playing by the rules. Maybe we should send them to the penalty box, or better yet let’s give them a time out. That will show those meanies.
Hey if we weren’t tied up in Iraq, we could have spearheaded an international force to seperate the combatants, but that would have taken “smarts”.
August 1st, 2006 at 1:38 pmHey whoa whoa whoa….enough with the posting of people’s home address….that’a over the line. We’re not the right wing, after all…
August 1st, 2006 at 1:48 pmThis is NOT a case of collective punishment. Israel is NOT trying to kill civilians. Israel has taken MORE than just reasonable steps to avoid civilian casualties. Israel has taken extensive and extreme steps to AVOID civilian casualties - even calling off airstrikes of legitimate targets when the risk of civilian casualties is too great.
Hezbollah has been caught storing weapons in mosques, firing rockets from positions close to where children and their families have sought shelter and generally using their own population to “shield” them from retaliation.
Israel simply can’t lie down and take the building, and as long as they have taken these extreme precautions to avoid civilian casualties, their actions are moral, while Hezbollah’s using the civilian population as human shields is IMMORAL.
August 1st, 2006 at 1:57 pmOops, I meant take a beating….
August 1st, 2006 at 1:59 pmNot Jason again. Hey Jason, KILLING INNOCENT CIVILIANS is unaccetable. Period. Your contention is that an innocent Israeli life is worth more than an innocent Lebanese life is horrific and shows a total lack of a soul.
August 1st, 2006 at 2:01 pmTerrorism can not be defeated militarily. It never has been, and it never will be. It is a utopian, blood soaked fools paradise to think otherwise.
So ask yourself the question, are you prepared to see millions of people killed, perhaps tens of thousands of American troops, global economic collapse due to the inevitable energy crisis that this will bring on? Are you independently wealthy? Do you own your own home? Are you able to heat your home without electricity? Do you have a short daily commute?
If your answer to any of the above is NO, then you need this thing to stop, right now.
August 1st, 2006 at 2:02 pm“[U]ntil those civilians start paying a price for propping up these kinds of regimes, it’s not going to end, folks.†We civilians are paying a price for the corrupt, inept, bloody war mongering Republican regime, and it needs to end, folks.
August 1st, 2006 at 2:18 pmJason,
August 1st, 2006 at 2:19 pmIf the Israeli government really cared more for the civilian population they would send in the foot soldiers and carefully go house to house while blocking off escape routes and root out the Hezbollah fighters town by town. But dropping bombs and saying oops keeps Israeli soldiers alive. You know the ones that should fight, kill and die in wars….soldiers not civilians. I thought that was cleared up after WWII.
Limpbaughs sounds just like HILTER!
SS Neo Cons!
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August 1st, 2006 at 2:30 pmJust remember this: Rush is on loan from God……….D! and to make it fair he has to tie on half of his brain behind his back.
August 1st, 2006 at 2:34 pmI think you libs should read the entire transcript. But why do that when you can cherry pick things out of context. Rush has a huge following unlike “Air Hate America” radio. Check the ratings.
August 1st, 2006 at 2:40 pmWell, once upon a time, I was considering vacationing in that region. But now I’m not sure where the hotel was standing, let alone who to contact to reserve a room.
August 1st, 2006 at 2:46 pmVery inconvenient for innocent vacationing Americans, this… is it a war? Not sure. Well, lets just call it a slaughter. I don’t really care. Where is my hotel? It’s not like any of this fuss is going to change anything. The Lebanese will hate and fight Israel as usual. Israel likewise. So Bush is thinking go ahead and let the IDF kill everyone and level South Lebanon? Works for me. Will the Israelis’ build a hotel? I want a room with a patio.
Do you think I can pick up some good wool prayer rugs cheap?
Okay, Jason, let’s try this: A criminal, escaped from the law, takes hostages at your son’s/daughter’s school. Am I correct in saying you would support a tactic in which several children, including your own, were killed, just to get to the criminal? (and yes, I am comparing Hezbollah to criminals, but I’m also comparing the police action of Israel, where innocent children are murdered, as a criminal act) Are these children (hostages) collateral damage? If yes, did you also support the idiiot who murdered children by blowing up a building in Oklahoma City, to avenge the government action at Waco?
August 1st, 2006 at 3:03 pmJason’s idea is to nuke Lebanon because then all the innocent Israelis will be safe. But Jason what about their relatives in Syria, what happens when they bomb Isralei cafes? Nuke them too. And then Iran, and then Turkey, and then Afghanistan, and then everywhere else, because all those “civilians” propped up “terrible regimes”.
August 1st, 2006 at 3:07 pmNuke Lebanon? That’s going ruin my vacation, isn’t it? I don’t like that idea.
August 1st, 2006 at 3:19 pmWhy not nuke Israel? I wasn’t planning on going there. Rush, what do you think?
Until the leadership of terrorist cells are crushed, terrorism will continue, as kool-aid is as addictive to Islamo-fascists as it is to liberals. If killing a Lebanese child prevents the killing of an Israeli ir American child, so be it. Instead of cursign Israelis for killing innocent civilians, you should be cursing the terrorists who make sure that the collateral damage of dead children take place. But then, that would require logic, and you have but irrational hatred towards Bush, Rush, and all others who have proven to eb correct far more often that you.
August 1st, 2006 at 3:34 pmBut Bedford, you dolt, look around yourself. See how bombing and killing 100,000 Iraqis has made the USA so much “safer” from terrorists? We are much less safe because everyone of those we bombed has an uncle or a brother who will not forget what we did and will commit to killing Americans to punish us. Look at the whole region. Did Israel bombing the crap out of Gaza or the Golan Heights or Egypt, Syria in the past make them “safe from terrorists”. No. You’ve got to use your brain for more than just spouting political slogans that don’t reflect real world experience.
August 1st, 2006 at 3:40 pmComment by Bedford the Great — August 1, 2006 @ 3:34 pm
LOL another troll with delusions of adequacy. Bedford, I curse both sides for placing civilians into harms way. I curse Hezbollah for launching missiles into populated areas, and killing civilians, and I curse the Isreali’s for overreacting and sending the middle east into a possible tailspin. I also curse your beloved decider Mr. Bush, for creating instablity in the region, and for allowing the problems in Lebenon, and Syria to fester.
As for Kool-aid comment, I guess you would know far better then me.
August 1st, 2006 at 3:41 pmone question for Bedford? How old are you? do you have children?
August 1st, 2006 at 3:45 pmsorry that was actually two questions…..doh
August 1st, 2006 at 3:46 pmAnd Bedy boy, think about what you write, you’d kill “them” CHILDREN, to protect “us”. That’s the same logic that leads to war, racism, bigotry, lynchings, murder, etc.
August 1st, 2006 at 3:46 pmPeople who have studied history have said that the conflict in the middle East cannot be resolved with guns, bombs and missiles. Yet, that is the preferred strategy.
August 1st, 2006 at 3:55 pmKilling innocent people to make your point is assinine.
In defeating the militant terrorists, one must use ordinary law enforcement tactics to find them. Murdering children and their grandparents only makes more terrorists.
Limpballs is a revolting person who hides behind his microphone, spouting hatefilled and ignorant comments that incite other miscreants.
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Hey whoa whoa whoa….enough with the posting of people’s home address….that’a over the line. We’re not the right wing, after all…
Comment by Derrick — August 1, 2006 @ 1:48 pm
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I agree completely. If we reduce ourselves to their level, we have lost our own moral authority. Let’s not go there.
August 1st, 2006 at 3:59 pmSo Rush thinks people ‘paying the price’ is what is needed, huh? He is all for responsibility, unless it is in regards to himself. He believes that his concern for his ‘privacy’ outweighs following the law. He freely violates the terms of his Plea Agreement, and pays no price for it, but killing 37 children is part of the ‘cost of doing business. His ‘Hey, they were asking for it…’ attitude is as disgusting as he is.
August 1st, 2006 at 4:19 pmJust finished watching 5×15 of the X-Files. Remember them? The episode is a “prequel”, and set in the 1950’s. I was struck by the comment Hoover makes to an FBI agent.
HOOVER: … in less than seven years the odds have changed from nine to one in our favor, to eight to five against us. The threat of global communist domination is a reality that can be ignored only at the risk of our own annihilation.
DALES: The men we arrested weren’t communists.
HOOVER: If we are to defeat the enemy, we must use their tools. We must go further. We must do those things which even our enemies would be ashamed to do. It is only through strength that we can make our enemies fear us, and thereby ensure our own survival. You have one chance, Mr. Dales, to save yourself–to demonstrate that you have the strength to serve your country.
What is especially interesting is the tone of the piece, the clear disapproval by the writer of what Hoover is saying, the sense of brutality he is trying to instill.
Yet, here we are a mere 7 or 8 years later, were people daily post worse, and people consider Jack Bauer to be an honourable and brave protector of freedom. Food for thought.
August 1st, 2006 at 4:21 pmhmmm, building hit around midnight, falls down around 8 am, no survivors, all in the basement, looked like they were asleep when fatally wounded, already in rigamoris, waited till the cameras showed up, etc. etc. etc.
August 1st, 2006 at 4:25 pmThomas Jefferson: “War is an instrument entirely inefficient toward redressing wrong; and multiplies, instead of indemnifying losses.”
August 1st, 2006 at 4:35 pmIn a picture that hits the wires just one hour (9:06 AM) after the building collapse, a Lebanese Red cross member sits with bodies already displaying significant rigor mortis. About.com puts the timing of maximum stiffness at about 12-24 hours after death. These people were supposed to have died within one hour of these photos being taken.
“Whatever else, the event in Qana was a human tragedy,” EU Referendum said. “But the photographs do not show it honestly. Rather, they have been staged for effect, exploiting the victims in an unwholesome manner. In so doing, they are no longer news photographs - they are propaganda,”
August 1st, 2006 at 4:43 pmYeah, cheeks, and how long did it take for Limpballs to acquire that audience?
August 1st, 2006 at 4:45 pmAA is doing very well, thank you, and growing every day.
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August 1st, 2006 at 4:47 pmYour argument is far too reasonable for Jason Hendler.
Does anyone have credible links, that Qana was staged? The trolls keep going on about 8 hours and rigormortis in the bodies, but so far are shockingly short on corraborating evidence.
August 1st, 2006 at 5:03 pmTerrorism can not be defeated militarily. It never has been, and it never will be. It is a utopian, blood soaked fools paradise to think otherwise.
So ask yourself the question, are you prepared to see millions of people killed, perhaps tens of thousands of American troops, global economic collapse due to the inevitable energy crisis that this will bring on? Are you independently wealthy? Do you own your own home? Are you able to heat your home without electricity? Do you have a short daily commute?
If your answer to any of the above is NO, then you need this thing to stop, right now.
August 1st, 2006 at 5:03 pmWhen will Bush supporters “pay a price” for propping up the regime?
August 1st, 2006 at 5:14 pmI love it when the wingnuts have a “conspiracy theory”. Yeah Qana never happened, the bodies of the dead children were….were….were… paper mache mockups, yeah that’s it - paper mache. And Hezbollah actually blew up the building too, yeah that’s it, I know the Israelis said they blew up the building and it was a “mistake”, but no they didn’t, they naver said that at all…….
August 1st, 2006 at 5:39 pmNo actually I condemn everyone who engages in genocide, I don’t care which evil sociopathic piece of crap it is. But let’s not forget they are human garbage. You do not KILL INNOCENT CHILDREN. Everything else here is a deliberate attempt to obfuscate and distract to excuse BABY KILLERS! You are defending BABY KILLERS. Has that sunk in enough. Don’t whine about pedophiles, murders, rapists because you are willing to defend BABY KILLERS!
August 1st, 2006 at 5:57 pmChung the time has come to call people what they really are. This Administration has forced the issue. No real American ever stood for or would ever defend the killing of innocent children for any reason, why are you?
August 1st, 2006 at 6:05 pmYes Chung I have been on a battle field stupid. You however have not. When has this Administration given support to killing innocent people including children, when they told the Israelis to continue for 2-4 more weeks when every other nation except the UK and Israel and the USA VOTED for a ceasefire and THIS administration vetoed it. Do you remember “Shock and Awe”, how many innocent Iraqis do you think blew up in those fireballs idiot, did you see the stories about Abu Garhib where 75% of the tortured inmates were released charged with NO crime - but we beat some of them to death. Get with the facts Low Dung Chung.
August 1st, 2006 at 6:14 pm#I think you libs should read the entire transcript. But why do that when you can cherry pick things out of context. Rush has a huge following unlike “Air Hate America†radio. Check the ratings.
Comment by Cheeks — August 1, 2006 @ 2:40 pm
Assuming facts not in evidence. I cannot ever recalling having listened to Air America. I HAVE listened to Dimbulb and I don’t get it. If your looking for a certain modern day Archie Bunker meathead on drugs mentality then I spose Flush DimBulb is your hero, except Archie at least served as I recall.
August 1st, 2006 at 6:15 pmCheck the ratings.
Comment by Cheeks — August 1, 2006
I will be glad when they start the Mandatory Service act of 2006, only for one reason, so these rabid demon chicken hawks of apocalypse and doom. like cheeks here, will get a chance to see apocalypse and doom.
August 1st, 2006 at 6:20 pmChung , buddy you have no idea what I am or who I am. It points out the absolute stupidity of your thought process, you don’t use facts to make judgements - which is exactly why the US is in the predicament it is in. For example if I told you you might adress me in the military as either Doctor or Commander would that give you some insight? You are a know-nothing punk kid who makes decisions without knowing the facts - as your God GW Chimpy does. Unfortunately “real” leaders don’t make stupid mistakes like you.
August 1st, 2006 at 6:26 pmNow Chung your ridiculous self is backtracking, now after you opened you mouth and dcefended killing babies, a might sociopathic and illegal under the UCMJ I might point out, now you want facts. I think you aare a snot nosed 18 year old punk because real warriors don’t make stupid decisions without the facts because they don’t survive.
August 1st, 2006 at 6:33 pmAnd Chung the only whimp here is the guy defending killing babies, have a mirror? Only a real man gets off on murdering innocent children, feel good, getting hot about the death Chung?
August 1st, 2006 at 6:36 pmOh and Chung dung:
Article 118—Murder
“Any person subject to this chapter who, without justification or excuse, unlawfully kills a human being, when he—â€
(1) has a premeditated design to kill;
(2) intends to kill or inflict great bodily harm;
(3) is engaged in an act that is inherently dangerous to another and evinces a wanton disregard of human life; or
(4) is engaged in the perpetration or attempted perpetration of burglary, sodomy, rape, robbery, or aggravated arson; is guilty of murder, and shall suffer such punishment as a court-martial may direct, except that if found guilty under clause (1) or (4), he shall suffer death or imprisonment for life as a court-martial may direct.
August 1st, 2006 at 6:40 pmAnd no Chung I didn’t lose my military background, but it’s obvious yours came out of the movies because “real” men in the Armed Services don’t act like snot nosed brats. And “real” men don’t get “excited” like you do over killing children. How many have you killed?
August 1st, 2006 at 6:43 pmSorry Chung UCMJ applies at all times. It is the Military Court system, and articles about murder apply at all times, see you are a liar.
August 1st, 2006 at 6:44 pmNone thanks for asking, but I’m sure they way you are so fond of promoting the death of children you have to have a psych diagnosis. Tell me more maybe we can get you help so you can stop thinking about killing kids.
August 1st, 2006 at 6:46 pmYou sir are a sociopath, defending the death of the innocents.
August 1st, 2006 at 6:46 pm3000+ Americans died on 9/11 because Clinton would do nothing to stop the growth of terrorism on his watch. Those who voted for Clinton have that blood on their hands, annd have far more to apologize more than Israel ever had.
August 1st, 2006 at 6:47 pmSee I told you we would find your diagnosis, you can’t get off sexually unless you think about killing kids - hey you made the connection.
August 1st, 2006 at 6:47 pmOh Chung, you defended killing children not me and I’m sorry if you feel the need to project those dirty thoughts in your head out onto the web, but you did defend killing children, read your own posts knucklehead.
August 1st, 2006 at 6:49 pmThe problem here is that Rush hits a nerve with you people. You libs don’t like to be confronted with facts. I understand, its like getting caught with your hand in the cookie jar and you have nowhere to run…..oops I mean “cut and run.”
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Don’t be jealous! How is AA doing with their finances these days? Last I herd they are almost at a point of no return. Perhaps you can take up a collection at your local Islamic center. I am sure they’ll donate, since your supporting their cause.
August 1st, 2006 at 6:53 pmWell Bedford, that means that those who voted for Bush have the blood of anywhere from 30,000 to 100,000 on their hands. I also have news for you numbnuts. the date of the 9/11 attack was during the Bush presidency. Not the Clinton presidency. Bush failed to defend this country, he failed to follow up, and he failed to do one damn useful thing in office.
August 1st, 2006 at 6:54 pmSEE chung more mistakes showing you were never in the military a CDR is NOT a Seaman, and agian you show total disregard for facts as you continue to assume things. The military (all branches punishable under the UCMJ) specifically prohibits killing innocent civilians. That’s why those Marines are under apprehension at Cam LeJune, exactly for the crime you are defending. In our military any service member would be hard pressed to explain or defend killing 34 children.
August 1st, 2006 at 6:56 pmHere is a link that should help resolve some issues.
http://www.msunderestimated.com/ 2006/ 07/ 30/ the-dissection-of-terrorist-propaganda-made-for-tv-videos/
August 1st, 2006 at 7:00 pmChung you’re a rupublofascist wannabe “bigman” troll. And not very good at it. The underlying principle is killing innocents is never acceptable.
August 1st, 2006 at 7:00 pm#106
Where is your outrage when a terrorists kills?
August 1st, 2006 at 7:04 pmOh yeah Cheeks, cause some dude with a obvious rightwing website is going to be such an honest source.
LOL your a funny little man. =)
August 1st, 2006 at 7:06 pmOh…. I forgot we make them do it.
August 1st, 2006 at 7:08 pmWe already know what kind of a regime Rush Limpdick supports.
August 1st, 2006 at 7:08 pmNo Chung I’m not looing for my battlefield, that’s the point you thickheaded dolt. No more battles or battlefields. The old rules don’t apply. Today it’s not possible to fight limited wars and the world is getting smaller all the time. You kill them and their relitives bomb St Louis. Then you kill more of them and 34 kids too. 34 kids that did nothing and will never grow up. 34 kids whose parents will work their whole lives to kill some guy on a plane for a vacation. Can’t continue. Needs to stop. You can’t defend this or you are the problem.
August 1st, 2006 at 7:09 pmAny one catch the obvious Rush clone in V for Vendetta?
August 1st, 2006 at 7:10 pmTypical personal attack by the left. And this site is what?
August 1st, 2006 at 7:10 pmLOL I love your reasoning there Chung/Cheeks. You attack anyone who says anything different, post intentionally inflammatory statements, then get mad when someone calls you a wackjob. Get used to it dude. It ain’t going to get any better.
August 1st, 2006 at 7:13 pmChung; Bones is right. the UCMJ DOES apply 24/7.–from a veteran.
August 1st, 2006 at 7:16 pm#121
What inflammatory statements? Its called reasonable discourse, its an idealistic value of placing facts over beliefs, reason over passion, and objectivity over subjectivity.
August 1st, 2006 at 7:26 pmWell Low Dung still thinking about children? I see you haven’t grown any in the interim. Maybe you need to get some serious help and we’ll see if you mature by the time you make it thru puberty. The great news is after discussing things with you, I fell great about myself, I sometimes forget there are cretin losers like you out there. In comparison my life is terrific, I could be you and that would be worse than being George Bush.
August 1st, 2006 at 7:31 pmDid anyone notice Cheeks and Chung? Funny. Rush is a fat slob drug addict and goes to the Dominican republic with viagra for what “Christian” value? And this is the guy these people look to for moral authority for killing kids? Pathetic.
August 1st, 2006 at 7:49 pmOh Bluedog you already know they met zero times. And I seem to remeber Clinto caught and successfully prosecuted the first guys who tried to blow up the WTC. And I remember he stopped the millenium bomb plot, unlike Chimpy boy who let the WTC get blown away.
August 1st, 2006 at 8:00 pmOh Bluedog you already know they met zero times. And I seem to remember Clinton caught and successfully prosecuted the first guys who tried to blow up the WTC. And I remember he stopped the millenium bomb plot, unlike Chimpy boy who let the WTC get blown away.
August 1st, 2006 at 8:00 pmNo Low dung it’s just the empty space between you ears. This is the same Rush that said Americans in Lebanon were whining because the US governemnt couldn’t get them out. Now he condones child murder.
August 1st, 2006 at 8:10 pmChung; WHAT PART of the UCMJ DO YOU NOT UNDERSTAND? IT IS IN EFFECT 24/7 EVEN IN WAR OR PEACE. ARTICLES DO NOT HAVE EXCEPTIONS FOR WAR. I SERVED IN A WAR, THE UCMJ WAS IN EFFECT FOR ALL MEMBERS OF THE MILITARY/ALL BRANCHES/ WHEREVER THE SERVICEMAN IS POSTED…BE IT IN VIETNAM, THE USA, GUAM, GERMANY, ANYWHERE. PERIOD. NO EXCEPTIONS!!!! PERIOD!!! NONE!!!
August 1st, 2006 at 8:24 pmChung, I served in Vietnam. What war have YOU served in? I don’t see YOUR ASS in the army. you are full of bs by trying to change the subject. We would call you a REMF, ripe for fragging.
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August 1st, 2006 at 9:31 pm#152- chung- @9:16 pm- “at least the Vietnamese were humane…” Whew…
August 1st, 2006 at 9:40 pmI see that the thread has been edited. Good. Thanks.
August 1st, 2006 at 9:42 pmOf course they are editing this site. It hasn’t been the first time. After all the owner of this site obviously wants you libs to stay on message, because when they realize your losing the argument they have to do something to get you back. A do-over if you will. Face it, Rush dominates the airwaves and it has been proven in all statistics and polls. You know those polls you libs depend on. Then again if it doesn’t fit your template……………………
Yes Cheeks is back for some fun. Nothing more relaxing then watching you kooks come “unhinged.â€
Ps. I’ll be surprise if this gets to the post without being edited.
August 1st, 2006 at 11:49 pmWow! I am shocked, it made it!
August 1st, 2006 at 11:50 pmOK…….I just tossed a bone into the Piranha pool. What….nothing, nada, nilche……Hmmmm
August 1st, 2006 at 11:54 pmRed Cross workers and residents of Qana, where Israeli bombing killed at least 60 civilians, have told IPS that no Hezbollah rockets were launched from the city before the Israeli air strike.
The Israeli military has said it bombed the building in which several people had taken shelter, more than half of them children, because the Army had faced rocket fire from Qana. The Israeli military has said that Hezbollah was therefore responsible for the deaths.
August 2nd, 2006 at 12:07 amNo Hezbollah Rockets Fired from Qana
Well, I can see that went over like a turd in the punch bowl!
August 2nd, 2006 at 12:09 amCome on Gregor, they have actual footage of rockets being fired from that vacinity.
August 2nd, 2006 at 12:15 amcrush limbaugh!
August 2nd, 2006 at 10:14 amIt’s amazing how one guy “Rush” can get under your skin.
August 2nd, 2006 at 2:20 pm#123 Cheeks; I NEVER listen to Limpdick. He’s a craven cowardly chickenhawk who copped a draft-deferment for a malady that I personally treated as corpsman in the service. So who died in Vietnam in Limpdick’s place? Could it have been one of my friends?
August 2nd, 2006 at 4:52 pm[…] But that’s hardly it — Limbaugh was mentioned in the previous post spouting off. “[U]ntil those civilians start paying a price for propping up these kinds of regimes, it’s not going to end, folks.†[…]
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