Focus on the Family Disinvited From Atlanta Braves’ ‘Faith Day’ Events
Focus on the Family Disinvited From Atlanta Braves’ ‘Faith Day’ Events
Last week, the Atlanta Braves became the first team in major league baseball to sponsor a post-game Christian evangelizing event called “Faith Day.” The Atlanta Journal-Constitution provided details:
The blend of big-tent evangelism and the national pastime is expected to draw thousands of new eyes. … [The event is] designed to reach out to people looking for a spiritual purpose in life. Faith Day is the first promotion of “intentional Christian ministry” in Major League Baseball.
Except the Faith Day festivities didn’t offer a “big tent.” The event was cosponsored by right-wing group Focus on the Family, which, according to their press release, used the event to distribute promotional materials about a website they run called TroubledWith.com, which features virulently anti-gay content:
Male homosexuality is a developmental problem that is almost always the result of problems in family relations, particularly between father and son. [Link]
The following factors can also contribute to the homosexual orientation: pornography; spousal abuse in the home; molestation and pedophilia… [Link]
‘Mom…I’m Gay’: The story of one woman who heard these devastating words. [Link]
Contacted yesterday by ThinkProgress, Braves spokesperson Beth Marshall said that the Braves have asked that Focus on the Family not be affiliated with the two upcoming Braves “Faith Day” events on August 13 and August 26. Marshall declined to explain what brought about the decision to exclude Focus on the Family from the future events.
Unfortunately, Focus on the Family remains a cosponsor of several other Faith Day events at baseball games this summer, which are organized by a group called Third Coast Sports. Email the CEO of Third Coast — mike@thirdcoastsports.com — and urge him to completely sever their ties with the anti-gay group.
There’s no crying in baseball, and there shouldn’t be bigotry either.
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Focus on the Family’s angry Jesus and the tomahawk chop fit right together these days.
August 2nd, 2006 at 3:48 pmJust when I think the Bible Belt can’t sink any lower, something like this happens.
You know, if the Bible Belts went away today, the world would be a better place tomorrow!
August 2nd, 2006 at 3:52 pmSee, this is a mistake. Criticism of government-sponsored religion is valid and necessary. Criticism of a private organization being religious, bigoted, right-wing, or whatever, regardless of how well it is justified, should be below TP’s radar.
August 2nd, 2006 at 3:54 pmGood.
I’m afraid that Georgie’s successor won’t fare well in his presidential ambitions when American Chief Executive, Fox’s spinoff of Idol, hits the air.
August 2nd, 2006 at 3:54 pmI don’ think TP was criticizing, just pointing out that one of the most virulent anti-gay “christians” out there has been disinvited to attend. I for one think this is a good start. I have zero problems with faith and religion, just those who wish us to live in a Christian Theocracy.
August 2nd, 2006 at 3:58 pmAnd according to Ann Coulter, if you are a ladies man like Bill Clinton, then you are a homosexual.
August 2nd, 2006 at 4:05 pmI think I’ll start a Political Reparation Movement for neocons because:
August 2nd, 2006 at 4:06 pm1. neocons suffer from a developmental disorder that is typically the result of social failures and feelings of inadequacy,
2. the following factors can also contribute to the necon orientation and lifestyle: heterosexual parenting, living above the poverty level, propoganda and brainwashing, and experiencing a feminist male stealing his girlfriend
3. I also have a video chronically the story of one poor woman’s plight, entitled “Oh, my God, my daughter is dating a right-wing bigot”.
See, this is a mistake. Criticism of government-sponsored religion is valid and necessary. Criticism of a private organization being religious, bigoted, right-wing, or whatever, regardless of how well it is justified, should be below TP’s radar.
Comment by Universe Man
I disagree. Criticism is acceptable toward ANY organization. Legal limitations of private organizations, however, is most un-American and unacceptable. If MLB, the Boy Scouts, or any other organization wants to make decisions for running itself on the basis of religion that must be allowed but can certainly be criticized and boycotted by opponents.
August 2nd, 2006 at 4:10 pmThe following factors can also contribute to the homosexual orientation: pornography
so all these people “google-ing” porn or renting Debbie Does Dallas in 3-D are, actually….GAY???
I was not aware of that!
August 2nd, 2006 at 4:11 pm#3
August 2nd, 2006 at 4:11 pmI understand what you are saying about government and private organizations. But it is pertinent to the large far right christian movement. Focus on the Family is like the KKK. Christian groups with nothing but bigotry and hate to fuel their followers deceitful hearts. Hopefully this disinvite to Focus on the Family is a continuing trend showing that true Christians want to take their religion back from zealots.
Sports should be like our government shoulb be– seperate from religion. Pretty sad when baseball thinks it has to go pandering specifically to faith based groups to find an excuse for attendance.
August 2nd, 2006 at 4:14 pmTP seems to be against religion anywher, anytime.
August 2nd, 2006 at 4:16 pmSome gay rights activist groups need to get together and buy up all of the remaining tickets to these games and surround these pricks, wave their flags, and be as in-your-face as possible.
August 2nd, 2006 at 4:16 pmI have heard that voting Democratic, activist judges, reading the New York Times, using solid logic, or wiping your mouth with a napkin can also cause homosexuality.
August 2nd, 2006 at 4:16 pmNot true. We are against bigotry, not religion.
August 2nd, 2006 at 4:17 pmAnd according to Ann Coulter, if you are a ladies man like Bill Clinton, then you are a homosexual.
Comment by Jebus Loves Me
Yup – and like Focus on the Family has any credible credentials. Why is it that the most anti-family organizations always use “family” in their title – it’s like they think they have a lock on how families should be run.
Homosexuality is just that – attraction to the same sex – pretty simple.
My family accepted me a long time ago.
August 2nd, 2006 at 4:21 pmJack, a question:
Why should the government support a fundamentalist Christian view of homosexuality over my liberal Christian view of homosexuality?
August 2nd, 2006 at 4:22 pmCriticism of government-sponsored religion is valid and necessary. Criticism of a private organization being religious, bigoted, right-wing, or whatever, regardless of how well it is justified, should be below TP’s radar.
Comment by Universe Man
You still feel this way despite how much sway this bunch has over the “elected” occupants of the White House, and the newest member of the Supreme Court (who promised he’d “remember” Dobson and his support)?
Nonetheless, I don’t see this post as a diversion from this ThinkProgress’ progressive tennets.
August 2nd, 2006 at 4:24 pmthe republicans are unable to use race-baiting as an issue anymore during elections cycles, so they have switched to gay baiting. I am not sure what they will do when society no longer considers sexual orientation an issue. Switch to bestiality perhaps?
August 2nd, 2006 at 4:25 pmThis entire event is just another example of how my hometown baseball team has been derailed this season (perhaps pitcher John Smoltz, noted homophobe, had something to do with the invite to Dobson & Co.)
August 2nd, 2006 at 4:30 pm…and I thought Colorado Rockies were supposed to be the “holy rollin’” baseball team
I wonder which factors – “pornography; spousal abuse in the home; molestation and pedophilia” – were present in the Cheney household that caused their daughter to be gay? Maybe someone should ask Dobson that question the next time he is on TV.
August 2nd, 2006 at 4:38 pmFocus on the Family (FOTF) fluff:
Male homosexuality is a developmental problem that is almost always the result of problems in family relations, particularly between father and son.
Of course, Dobson and FOTF have the answer for such problems:
“Meanwhile, the boy’s father has to do his part. He needs to mirror and affirm his son’s maleness. He can play rough-and-tumble games with his son, in ways that are decidedly different from the games he would play with a little girl. He can help his son learn to throw and catch a ball. He can teach him to pound a square wooden peg into a square hole in a pegboard. He can even take his son with him into the shower, where the boy cannot help but notice that Dad has a penis, just like his, only bigger.”
Jesus’s General agrees heartily.
Cheers,
August 2nd, 2006 at 4:42 pmwell, the braves are THE american team and therefore, they are favorites of the party of god in america…. oops, they told me not to say ‘party of god’ anymore since that whole ‘hezzboller’ thing?
anyway, yes, there will be hot dogs with mustard, and men in tight pants and…when they scratch themselves…i mean, real americans will be there. none of those queer-types, you know the ones i mean…
god bless america, and god bless the braves!
August 2nd, 2006 at 4:43 pmmore right-wing exploitation of bias for profit….
August 2nd, 2006 at 4:44 pmSeems to me that Mr. Dobson focuses on male homosexuality. I wonder if he is okay with the ocassional girl on girl porno?
August 2nd, 2006 at 4:47 pm23
Arne –
That is a spoof, right?
Like a ( not for TV ) Conan O’Brien type skit out of your imagination, right?
Tell me that is not for real …
August 2nd, 2006 at 4:49 pm#26. Yes, he seems to be infatuated with the male anatomy (see #23) Inferiority complex, perhaps….or is he hiding something? Homosexual tendencies?
August 2nd, 2006 at 4:49 pmhey, krazny, i am a religious extremist, but, i ain’t crazy… :)
girls on girls is a gift from the lord, our saviour!
can i get an ‘amen’!!!!
August 2nd, 2006 at 4:50 pmHmm, How can I put this, war thing, in a way that a pro-bush war monger can understand.
Okay let’s say in this red state, say Ohio, in a place called Diebold, there is a group of liberals,say 25-50, now the plan is to blow up the Diebold factory, level the entire city with bombs, destroy all the airports, the roads, the hospitals and all the infrastructure, and well so what what if you kill 99% republicans and their Children? It’s Collateral Damage right?? RIGHT????
This above is the Republican One Percent Doctrine of insanity.
August 2nd, 2006 at 4:53 pmi can clear up that homosetualty when the boys are young.
first, they can’t wear calvin klein underwear and any deodorant; no shampoo, just dial… real men don’t not smell real bad. that is the problem… all these clean boys running around in black calvin klein underwear, the taut white flesh, the small lump in their shorts… the muscular legs…
August 2nd, 2006 at 4:53 pm“Meanwhile, the boy’s father has to do his part. He needs to mirror and affirm his son’s maleness. He can play rough-and-tumble games with his son, in ways that are decidedly different from the games he would play with a little girl. He can help his son learn to throw and catch a ball. He can teach him to pound a square wooden peg into a square hole in a pegboard. He can even take his son with him into the shower, where the boy cannot help but notice that Dad has a penis, just like his, only bigger.â€
Jesus’s General agrees heartily.
Cheers,
Comment by Arne Langsetmo
When I read this – and it’s on the FOTF website and the fact that Dobson said this specifically is really scary.
I never showered with my dad when I was growing up so I never saw his private parts. That James Dobson suggests that this is a way to raise young boys is twisted. Seems like the right-wing have this thing about young boys. No surprise – they’re so obsessed with sex but at the same time repress their true feelings…. ’nuff said.
August 2nd, 2006 at 4:53 pmThe far-right are completely crazy now, and their extreme homophobia is plain disgusting!
August 2nd, 2006 at 4:54 pmi can clear up that homosetualty when the boys are young.
first, they can’t wear calvin klein underwear and any deodorant; no shampoo, just dial… real men don’t not smell real bad. that is the problem… all these clean boys running around in black calvin klein underwear, the taut white flesh, the small lump in their shorts… the muscular legs…
Comment by james dobson
This wouldn’t surprise me – as I said, I think the RR is psycho when it comes to sex – they “don’t like it” yet they want it. I’d suggest that Dobson submit to voluntary neutering – surely at his age he isn’t going to “breed”, so no need for those breeding parts – just chop ‘em off.
August 2nd, 2006 at 4:59 pm#32
August 2nd, 2006 at 5:00 pmI went there and read the letter from Mark the confused thirteen year old. Read that letter and keep in mind that this is supposed to be a thirteen year old that wrote it. Unreal. No thirteen year old would write like that.
#27 (Triumph)
Arne -
That is a spoof, right?
Sadly, no. Cliock through It’s the actual Focus on the Family web pages.
Satire is dead. Dead, I tell ya…..
Cheers,
August 2nd, 2006 at 5:00 pmYou know, if the Bible Belts went away today, the world would be a better place tomorrow!
Comment by Jebus Loves Me — August 2, 2006 @ 3:52 pm
Why not educate people here instead? I live in a suburb of Atlanta, where I am now teaching high school juniors and seniors about Architecture. Except that’s not all I’m teaching them.
I’ve planted their first architectural seeds that insist upon respect for the environment, keeping an open-mind, removing past prejudices and equality for all people. And this was just the second day.
It takes time to change a culture, but since change is inevitable, we can look to history to see how it is done and how to implement it in a positive direction. I believe that answer is through awareness and education. Make hate an unacceptable thing to do.
August 2nd, 2006 at 5:01 pmSome gay rights activist groups need to get together and buy up all of the remaining tickets to these games and surround these pricks, wave their flags, and be as in-your-face as possible.
Comment by onthefence — August 2, 2006 @ 4:16 pm
As long as they do it with respect, I think that is a GREAT idea. If they are negative with it, it only further endorses the notion that they are ‘evil’…
I believe most people who are anti-gay don’t actually know anyone gay in the open. When you know people who are gay, black, female, Hindu, etc., you tend to dismiss stereotypes and instead judge people on their actions…
August 2nd, 2006 at 5:05 pmI am not sure what they will do when society no longer considers sexual orientation an issue. Switch to bestiality perhaps?
Comment by Krazny — August 2, 2006 @ 4:25 pm
Atheism. And, I’m guessing, it’s time to recycle Communism. Notice how frequently the trolls drop that Limp-baugh attack?
August 2nd, 2006 at 5:08 pmMaybe someone should ask Dobson that question the next time he is on TV.
Comment by Mark Mederson — August 2, 2006 @ 4:38 pm
Touche!
August 2nd, 2006 at 5:09 pmIt takes time to change a culture, but since change is inevitable, we can look to history to see how it is done and how to implement it in a positive direction. I believe that answer is through awareness and education. Make hate an unacceptable thing to do.
Comment by unbelievable
Nice idea – it truely is – but it doesn’t explain why a large portion of America still feels that same-sex marriage should be illegal. Of course, Dobson and his buddies have a lot to do with that – push their “religious agenda” while writing about things like “daddy’s penis”.
Education is a good start – but with cable channels like FNS licking Dobson’s feet is it any wonder we’re no closer to a more open society?
August 2nd, 2006 at 5:13 pm#36 Wow …
( So is this what it is like in Focus On the Family Land? )
( Telephone Rings )
Son: “Hello”
Dad: “Hello, Son … What do you have planned for the day?”
Son: “Well, Dad – I was just going to grill some burgers and watch the baseball game …”
Dad: ” Well, Son … Ma and I already have the grill going over here. Why do you just drive over and watch the game over here. And after the game is over, we can take a shower !”
Son: “Wow – that would be great, Dad ! I’ll be right over !”
August 2nd, 2006 at 5:13 pmWell, I hate the Braves anyway. I’m a Mets fan.
August 2nd, 2006 at 5:14 pmpass it to your boss!!!
no attention need it Anthony! just justice!!!
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and the truth was removed from this web site !!! why? should we ask Judd Legum? the editor!
http://thinkprogress.org/2006/03/21/truth-will-set-you-freeh/
August 2nd, 2006 at 5:26 pm9/11 untruths could be criminal – report
THE 10-member commission that investigated the US response to the September 11 attacks considered seeking a criminal probe of the Pentagon, believing it had deliberately misled the panel and the public, The Washington Post reported today.
August 2nd, 2006 at 5:29 pmCatholic Church Still Offers “Sanctuary for Perverts”
“Sixteen years ago, a confidential report to the Catholic Conference of Bishops predicted the church would pay out a billion dollars within a decade to victims of priest abuse. The authors warned the Catholic Church would be perceived as providing “sanctuary for perverts” if immediate reforms weren’t adopted.”
“The diocese in Portland, Me., initially took no stand against two parish priests who are admitted molesters. Portland’s new policy, according to the Globe, permits a priest who has molested a “single minor” multiple times to stay on the job, but not a priest who molests more than one minor once!”
http://www.ffrf.org/fttoday/2002/april02/gaylor.php
August 2nd, 2006 at 5:34 pmEducation is a good start – but with cable channels like FNS licking Dobson’s feet is it any wonder we’re no closer to a more open society?
Comment by MrTimPA — August 2, 2006 @ 5:13 pm
Queer Eye for the Straight Guy is far more popular :)
The problem with religion is that you cannot disprove that negative, especially when it is based on faith and not fact. I do believe that it will take generations, but look how far women and blacks have come in being accepted. Sure, it’s still not ideal, but as long as there is fear, I don’t think it ever will be. Some people will always hate someone different than they are, you know?
August 2nd, 2006 at 5:34 pmIF THEY ARE PAID LIARS WHY NOT?
UNBELIEVEBLE!!!
August 2nd, 2006 at 5:36 pm44
August 2nd, 2006 at 5:37 pmAt least with me, you are wasting your time and mine by posting links with no explanation about what they reference in the thread. I’ll never go to one of those links.
From Tobey’s article: The panel, in a secret meeting at the close of its investigation in 2004, decided there was probable cause to believe the officials had broken the law by making false statements in the hope of hiding their bungled response, sources knowledgeable of the debate told the newspaper.
Well, that general idea got Clinton impeached.
August 2nd, 2006 at 5:38 pmBTW HE’S MY FRIEND AND YOU’RE NOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
August 2nd, 2006 at 5:39 pmI’ll never go to one of those links.
Comment by PLC (PatrioticLiberalChristian) — August 2, 2006 @ 5:37 pm
It’s Santo…
August 2nd, 2006 at 5:41 pmI wonder which factors – “pornography; spousal abuse in the home; molestation and pedophilia†– were present in the Cheney household that caused their daughter to be gay? Maybe someone should ask Dobson that question the next time he is on TV.
Comment by Mark Mederson
August 2nd, 2006 at 5:42 pm—————-
Hmm.
Excellent question,Mark.
Santo usually posts links to dance videos > lol.
August 2nd, 2006 at 5:43 pmPost 53 > Dick Cheney is a very mean and nasty man, so his daughter Mary got turned away from any intimacy with males, but actually attraction is supposed to be genetic!
August 2nd, 2006 at 5:46 pm9/11 Panel Suspected Deception by Pentagon
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/08/01/AR2006080101300_pf.html
August 2nd, 2006 at 5:49 pmThey have the internets in the dayroom now Santa’s Gonads? Kool, rubber keyboards.
August 2nd, 2006 at 5:49 pm#46
Have always thought that the church has such a priest/young boy problem because of their wierd chasity to Gd theory. But how come so few, if any, of the priest molestations are on girls? Being a molester is a perversion, but I would think that if you were a hetero pervert, you would be paractcsing on young girls, and not young boys?
Looking at this scenario, isn’t it probable that most of these priests are homosexual ? Whatcha think??
August 2nd, 2006 at 6:01 pmPost 58 > Catholic priests have access to Altar Boys in the church > girls hang out with the Nuns! I was born a Baptist, but raised as a Catholic > I am glad I was never an Altar Boy, but a few of my friends were, and one I believe got molested by a priest! Pedophilia is NOT a Gay thing > Gays like other men, not boys! Gay priests tend to hang out with other Gay priests!
August 2nd, 2006 at 6:08 pmocdemocrat,
the the catholic position (no pun intended) on homsexuality, has been, it is evil. I think it would be a pretty normal for a homosexual male, who feels that his desires for other men are agianst the will of god to join as a priest. Priest are after all chaste so no question of sexual orentation.
August 2nd, 2006 at 6:10 pm#45
thanks so much for the link to the 9/11 story.
hey, tp, this ought to be its own thread maybe–unless you follow the fashionable kos et al. line of not wanting to discuss 9/11 because it will make your site seem like ‘another tin hat factory’. let us know.
wow!
August 2nd, 2006 at 6:13 pmDid Christ even like baseball?
August 2nd, 2006 at 6:28 pmAnother example of the more they talk they more they convince people that they are nuts and should be ignored. Keep up the good work, Focus on the Family. You make your organization more insignificant every day with your bigotry and hate. Americans are no longer willing to sign up for this nonsense.
August 2nd, 2006 at 6:34 pmIt is time that the news media and folks in general to stop calling “Focus on the Family” a Christian group. They should be referred to as a group claming to be “christian”. What they are is a hate group.
Dave S
August 2nd, 2006 at 7:12 pm#64 Dave S
Some are calling that particular brand of Christianity “Christism”,akin to “Islamism”.
August 2nd, 2006 at 7:17 pmPost 53 > Dick Cheney is a very mean and nasty man, so his daughter Mary got turned away from any intimacy with males, but actually attraction is supposed to be genetic!
Comment by Jay Randal
August 2nd, 2006 at 7:24 pm——————
I have no doubt sexual orientation is a genetic trait,Jay.
#64
and
#65
How about “Fasc-stianity”?
I think you gotta leave the “Christ” part out of their new name since little of what they do is Christ-like, but more Fascist.
Go to
http://www.oldamericancentury.org/14pts.htm
and check out the similarities – particualrly #3.
August 2nd, 2006 at 7:43 pm#67
That does seem more accurate.
August 2nd, 2006 at 7:50 pmThis is horrible PR. The only thing that can save them now is trading for Mike Piazza.
August 2nd, 2006 at 8:07 pmI think you gotta leave the “Christ†part out of their new name since little of what they do is Christ-like, but more Fascist.
I agree. I like to call them Modern Pharisees – a term they should understand, meaning self-righteous people who demand following the letter of spiritual law without understanding the grace, justice, and love inherent in the law and who keep people from God with their hypocrisy.
August 2nd, 2006 at 8:43 pmThe Mormon Cult Turns Utah a Heaven for Pedophile Men
“It turns out that the state of Utah, and the LDS Church leadership have used the Beehive state’s marriage laws to protect adult men who want to have sex with 14 year old girls.”
Older Men Finding Teen Brides in Utah
“In April, a 13-year-old girl described to a Utah jury the horror of her father marrying her off to a 48-year-old man, when a prosecutor asked if she could have fabricated having sex with older men.
“There’s no way my imagination could make up what I went through,” she answered, while clutching a teddy bear. ”
http://www.skeptictank.org/utahpedo.htm
August 2nd, 2006 at 8:44 pmTo the Memory of my fellow American, compatriot and the Soldier of Freedom
Michael Levin, 22,
“… moved to Israel three years ago from Pennsylvania and enlisted in the paratroopers, Israeli media reported. Levin cut short a visit to his family four days ago and returned to his unit.”
By HAMZA HENDAWI, Associated Press Writer
Peace for Israel
August 2nd, 2006 at 8:47 pmYou people are fascist. How dare someone homosexuality a disorder.
I pray for your hateful souls.
August 2nd, 2006 at 8:52 pmI think you gotta leave the “Christ†part out of their new name since little of what they do is Christ-like, but more Fascist.
August 2nd, 2006 at 9:53 pmgee score one for the deviant sick fags whoopee!
August 2nd, 2006 at 10:05 pmhey #73 homosexuality IS a mental disorder (like liberalism) how dare you try and force acceptance of deviant sick behavoir on America?? shut up and go back to your respective closets and quit trying to defend the indefensible. homosexuality is mental sickness and the ultimate narccicism. Homosexuals should be in therapy and not being encouraged. these sickos need help.
#74
Thou shall not steal … “Gabriella”
Write your own post under your own name.
August 2nd, 2006 at 10:08 pm75
August 2nd, 2006 at 10:18 pmHomosexuality is not a mental illness as recognized by professionals who have the training and experience to make such diagnoses. Homosexuality is a human trait characterized by SOME religious groups and individuals as a sin, which is not the same as a mental illness. The “ultimate narcissism” (the correct spelling, BTW) is the belief that only one’s own humanity is pure and true.
Post 75 lol > how is your toothless wench wife doing?
August 3rd, 2006 at 12:55 am#73 and #75 are obviously written by the same person. As usual, Neocons cant decide which they want to be.
August 3rd, 2006 at 1:57 am[...] Focus on the Family Disinvited From Atlanta Braves Faith Day …Think Progress, DC - 17 hours agoLast week, the Atlanta Braves became the first team in major league baseball to sponsor a post-game Christian evangelizing event called Faith Day. The … [...]
August 3rd, 2006 at 9:26 am[...] Religion and Baseball? While I am sure many a fan has prayed when a fly ball came their way, I definitely think that Focus on the Family and James Dombson should stay the heck away from America’s Past Time. Fortunately the Atlanta Braves are now aware the the FoF had been co-sponsoring their Faith Day event and were passing out hate speech regarding homosexuals during their events, and are now forbidden from returning. Unfortunately, they aren’t banned from them all. All of the Faith Day events are being organized by Third Coast Sports. You can email the CEO at mike@thirdcoastsports.com and urge him to completely severe their ties with Focus on the Family. [...]
August 3rd, 2006 at 11:45 am#82, please return to your NASCAR event. Thank you
August 3rd, 2006 at 11:48 amIHL really needs to take a shower with his “daddy”. He spends an awful lot of time speaking about “butt bangers, fags, sickos, …etc. Truly a christian if ever there was one!
August 3rd, 2006 at 11:52 amI really don’t understand the big deal here folks.
It’s a private organization, more importantly it is a Christian organization.
Part of fundamental/traditional/historic/biblical Christian belief is that homosexuality goes against God, and is a sin.
For you to be upset that a Christian organization opposes homosexuality is absurd, it be like being upset that Christians teach that there is only one god, or saying that Christians are anti-semetic because they teach that Jesus is the Messiah.
Its just utter foolishness, the bible teaches explicitly against homosexuality in many places, and to be upset that a Christian would actually believe the bible and in turn preach those beliefs befuddles me.
I know some will say that the bible does not teach against homosexuality, this view is just plain wrong. The simple reading of Romans 121:27 shows that the bible does not teach that homosexual relations are ok.
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=romans;&version=31;
im not saying that you have to believe that the bible is the word of god. all im saying is that they do, and it teaches against homosexual behavior. they believe it to be a sin, its not bigotry to speak out against it. it would be no different than someone speaking out against pedophilia or polygamy. its not bigotry!
as long as they speak out against the sin and not the person its not bigotry.
and again….its a Christian group…. to think that they should be pro-gay is absurd
August 3rd, 2006 at 1:28 pmI was raised fundamentalist, went to Bible college in Tennessee, and worked for some big bishops in South Carolina and Mississippi until I became disillusioned. There were some good people, but they were not in positions of power. Some of the most unethical, vile people I have known were pentacostal preachers. These are very charismatic people, and slimey on the underbelly – but amazingly, they are still self righteous. They have to have someone to attack – it is an emotional religion and does not appeal to the intellect. In the words of Eric Hofer, “Any group can survive without a God, but no group can survive without a devil.” If you disagree, you are invited to find another “church home.” I’m glad I woke up in time – you couldn’t drag me back into a christian church. This is just another example of their foolishness.
August 3rd, 2006 at 1:38 pm#88
there are a lot of corrupt people in our society.
is it any wonder that they would seek places of power in our churchs, synogougs, and mousq?
there are many good christian churches out there. the one you ended up in sounds like a very destructive church, where you were on the outside of a church hudle… and god knows you dont get peoples best side whey your on the outside of the hudle.
there are churches that are not destructive, and they nurture spiritual growth.
please do not assume that the whole of christianity is bunk because you have met some lousy practicioners
August 3rd, 2006 at 1:50 pm#86, yea, whatever. #87, you miss the whole point. As you point out, if being gay is against God’s teachings, then why can’t you people let God judge human action? We don’t need you so called christians passing judgement and forcing your beliefs on everyone. Tell me, how does someone being gay even affect your life? It doesn’t, so let them alone, if they’re wrong, well that’s between them and God, doesn’t involve you or your group. Try worring about your own salvation rather than everyone elses, I’m sure you’ll have plenty to do.
August 3rd, 2006 at 1:53 pm#90
i dont know that i am equip to answer your argument fully, so fogive me if i fumble a bit.
you state that it does not affect my life, therefore i should mind my own business and stop “forcing your beliefs on everyone”.
well my short answer is that it does affect my life. it affects the society in which i live in and i have every right to speak out against things which i feel harm my culture.
1st of all homosexuals dont want tollerance. they want acceptance, and not as a person, the want their way of life accepted as being equally on par with that of heterosexuals.
its not enough to have equal rights, civil unions, legal status in wills, medical decisions, and inheritence. they want marriage. which traditionally has been one man and one woman, and has been an institution respected, and honored through out history.
i would argue that it is the homosexuallys who are forcing their beliefs on everyone else.
you have a relative few # of people telling the majority that the deffinition of marriage must change to include their perversion. its wrong.
they want tolerance, thats fine, i have no problem letting them live the life they want. but they are not happy with just being gay, they want being gay to be accepted as co-equal way of life by society, and it should not be.
as for marriage, there is good reason why married couples recieve special status, privlages, inheritence, social programs, tax break (sorta) its because marriage means kids (usually). so society honors marriage, and the service it offers society thought the rearing of families, as such marriage is an institution that society has set up as being good and protected.
marriage has been under attack for some time however, which has lead to a 50% divorce rate, and a decline in societal morals. we dont need another blow to the institution of marriage by equating the union of man and woman, raring a family, to that of a homosexual relations.
there is a differnce, no matter how much they want to argue that their is not. if given a vote, this country would overwhelmingly oppose homosexuallity and gay marriage, …. so whos pushing whos beliefs here ? its the homosexuals that need to step back and understand that it is THEIR way of life that is out of the NORM, and that they nedd to be the ones that accept that.
they should be tollerated and respected as people, loved as gods children, but there actions should never be allowed to be considered equally on par with that of a man and a woman coming together to raise a family.
just my thought.
i know you disagree.
August 3rd, 2006 at 2:19 pm# 91.
Ah yes, the classic “Blame the victim” defense. It’s OUR fault we want to simply be treated with decensy and equality, and not discriminated against. Of course, it’s all so simple! Allow me to distill your message to it’s base element:
“Them uppity fags need to learn their place. If they wants to be that way, that’s fine, long as I don’t need to see’em or ever think they’s actually human.”
Give me a SINGLE logical reason how same-sex marriage will hurt marriage. Or is it that you just don’t like the thought of your exclusive club being open to others? Typical of your ilk.
Homophobia and racism are two sides of the same coin, you realize.
Oh, and please, for the love of Bruce Campbell, learn how to capitalize the words at the beginning of a sentence. Maybe then I’ll only get a headache from your bigotry, rather than that and your grammar as well.
August 3rd, 2006 at 3:06 pm#93
August 3rd, 2006 at 3:22 pmI didn’t know Bill O’Reilly posted here!
“I Hate Liberals” = Chris, Reddog, Moonbat Patrol — all of which are the names used by one very latent homosexual. Tsk.
August 3rd, 2006 at 6:05 pmHomophobia: Irrational fear of, aversion to, or discrimination against homosexuality or homosexuals.
Latent homosexuality is an erotic inclination toward members of the same sex which is not consciously experienced or expressed in overt action. This may mean a hidden inclination or potential for interest in homosexual relationships, which is either suppressed or not recognised, and which has not yet been explored “for real” or may never be explored in fact.
The term was originally proposed by Sigmund Freud. Some argue that the latent homosexuality is a potentially iatrogenic effect.
Links to Homophobia
A theory that homophobia is a result of latent homosexuality was put forth in the late 20th century. A 1996 study conducted at the University of Georgia by Henry Adams, Lester Wright Jr., and Bethany Lohr indicates that a number of “homophobic” males exhibit latent homosexuality. The research was done on 64 heterosexual men, 35 of whom exhibited “homophobic” traits and 29 who did not. Three tests were conducted using penile plethysmography. While there was no difference in response when the men were exposed to heterosexual and lesbian pornography, there was a major difference in response when the men were exposed to male homosexual pornography.
The researchers reported that 24% of the non-”homophobic” men showed some degree of tumescence in response to the male homosexual video, compared to 54% of the subjects who scored high on the “homophobia scale”. In addition, 66% of the nonhomophobic group showed no significant increases in tumescence after this video, but only 20% of the “homophobic” men failed to display any arousal. Additionally, when the participants rated their degree of sexual arousal later, the “homophobic” men significantly underestimated their degree of arousal by the male homosexual video.
Still, researchers disagree about whether the “homophobic” males were stimulated by genuine latent homosexuality or negative emotions such as anxiety.
Links to Environment
Others have suggested that latent homosexuality is a result of one’s environment. Living in a homophobic culture, not being exposed to homosexuality, and being surrounded by members of both genders may encourage latent homosexuality. Conversely, exposure to a single-gender environment, such as a single-sex school, prison, or military service, could bring one’s latent homosexuality to the surface.
August 3rd, 2006 at 6:10 pm#97 — “Faggotry” — aren’t you one for words! “Sick homos” — another brilliant statement. “Sickness” — sorry, not according to the psychiatric community, or gay people in general who are a great bunch of people who give much to this society. “Retarded concept,” “sick assholes,” “legitimize sick homos” — all such “priceless” comments. Yet you don’t have a latent homosexuality problem? Take a long, hard look at yourself, fool, you have got one MAJOR problem with homosexuality, and it has nothing to do with tired buzz words like “agenda” (by the way, there is no such thing as a homosexual agenda — but you keep trotting out that lame phrase and you’ll see how much traction you get using it, which will be none at all). The problem with homosexuality, or “faggotry” as you label it, is that you are a latent homosexual. Sorry, jerk, but that’s the way it is. The more you show up here, fangs bared, spewing your bigotry and hate, the more everyone here will be convinced that you are nothing more than a latent homosexual who hates other gay people who live their lives out and proud and without the overwhelming shame you experience every day. Keep on ranting, and show us all how knee deep in “faggotry” you really are. We’ve all already gotten the message. But feel free to drive it on home if you really must. You’re latent. You’re homosexual. You’re tired. Go away.
August 3rd, 2006 at 6:48 pmDon’t waste your time, Gay Bear…he’s either so repressed that he’ll never accept who he is, or he really is that hateful and intolerant. Either way, logic isn’t going to get through his skull.
August 3rd, 2006 at 6:59 pm> 102.
August 3rd, 2006 at 7:08 pmHit close to the mark, did he?
104 — Ah yes, the old “hang you on a fence in Wyoming” line. Heard that one before when you were posting as Chris (or was it Reddog). How proud you must be to make light of the murder of an innocent person at the hands of a couple of no-count thugs — people like yourself. Yes, hit the nail on the head with you a long while back (as did many others, I might add). We all get it. You’ve proven who and what you are to us. There is no reasoning with you and your ilk. The good news is that your thinking and your type of people are on the way out. Progress and time are beautiful things. Soon both will put an end to you. And I say for me and every gay person on this planet, good riddance to you.
August 3rd, 2006 at 7:26 pmIHL,
August 3rd, 2006 at 8:00 pmGet your brown shirt pressed and take your hate venom to the nazi right wing republican blogsites. I’m sure they would appreciate your perspective. As far as liberals are concerned, your kind needs weeded out of the gene pool. I surely hope you don’t have chidren because if you do, they’ll be warped child molesters when they are of age.
110 > You people are fun to play with. I love the “i love all God’s creatures but if yor a fag ill kill you haha” bit, that cracks me up. Way to encorage negative stereotypes of religious people!
August 3rd, 2006 at 10:08 pmWow…I’m speechless.
August 4th, 2006 at 12:37 am[...] Last week the Atlanta Braves organization hosted its first faith night; and the event was cosponsored by Focus on the Family. However, because of Focus on the Family used the occasion to distribute promotional materials about their Troubled With website, which features much anti-gay material, Focus has not been invited back. Think Progress has the story. [...]
August 4th, 2006 at 1:32 am115 >
August 4th, 2006 at 5:08 amYeah. I know he’s a total troll, but sometimes they’re fun to play with. I like seeing how mad I can get them by being totally unconvinced by their insane rantings.
[...] From Think Progress: [...]
August 6th, 2006 at 10:40 pmThe Real Reason Straight Americans can’t accept Gay Americans
Many people quote the Bible as their reason for gay bias, denying us respect, acceptance and basic human rights, going against what America AND Jesus Christ is all about. But the funny thing is, I believe that the reason they cannot accept us is because of a very primitive, childish and emotional reaction that has nothing to do with the Bible.
On really a basic, primal level, homophobic heterosexual men can’t accept gay men because we are not like them. And the root of the issue is the childhood ridicule and scorn taught by society against any perceived weakness and femininity.
Read the rest of article:
http://epistle.us/articles/straightamerica.html
August 10th, 2006 at 6:38 amVery sad that the ‘Braves’ were not…brave. The label of intolerant seems to apply to everyone except gays…of course they sure seem intolerant of anyone who disagrees with their viewpoints. Calling people biggots etc…lovely indeed.
A decision or choice doesn’t make a minority, birth makes one. How you can compare sexual orientation to race is a very large stretch…where does it stop?
August 12th, 2006 at 3:23 amFocus on the family has done immense good for many hundreds of thousands of people…by standing for the principles they believe in…they haven’t changed since 1977 when founded…just the political climate has. I hope the Braves reconsider and don’t let this very loud minority bully the good folks at Focus.
While I don’t agree with everything they do, Focus on the Family is a light in this dark world. God’s word, the bible, states that homosexuality is wrong. Focus only follows that. If you people don’t like that, cut that part out of your bible, while you’re at it cut out the part about heaven and eternal life too. It’s a package deal.
August 12th, 2006 at 12:48 pmDefinition of bigot from Merriam/Webster Dictioinary:
a person obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices; especially : one who regards or treats the members of a group (as a racial or ethnic group) with hatred and intolerance
Jesus says “Judge Not”
August 12th, 2006 at 5:11 pmThat means Christians are NOT ALLOWED to judge ANYONE>
That is God’s business not anyone elses.
If you do decide to judge anyone else…be prepared to get it all back in return one hundred fold
“Do not judge, so that you may not be judged. For with the judgment you make you will be judged, and the measure you give will be the measure you get. Why do you see the speck in your neighbor’s eye, but do not notice the log in your own eye? Or how can you say to your neighbor, ‘Let me take the speck out of your eye,’ while the log is in your own eye? You hypocrite, first take the log out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to take the speck out of your neighbor’s eye.†– Matthew 7:1-5
After reading the posts on this site for several months there seems to be some consistency as to the feelings of the “bloggers …..let me summarize……because somewhere in my following list you (yes, you the wacko “progressiveâ€) will find an answer to ALL of the problems that America faces today….or at least the person/persons that are responsible for such a miserable existence that we must trudge through in America…..America the damned!!! Each of the items below are just a snippet of what “think progress†stands for….so…in your words….
Bush and the Republicans are the devil reincarnate…
Fox News is Hitler’s SS version of propaganda…
The Democrats are waayyy too conservative and right-leaning….
The Republicans (gulp…I said the word Republicans) work for the Devil…
Lieberman is a Bush crony that never accomplished anything for the state of Connecticut…
Did I mention that Bush and the Republicans are the devil reincarnate?
The War in Iraq was certainly for the oil and making rich people richer!!!
Halliburton? Planning the war(s) for years before 9/11…
9/11? Bush not only knew exactly what/where/when/how…..he helped to plan it…..
9/11? The towers were not taken down by airplanes…American C-4 explosives were strategically placed to “take ‘em downâ€â€¦.
Bush planted the C4…along with the help of Cheney and Rumsfield…
The War in Iraq was certainly a follow-up to papa Bush….and his “failure†in removing Saddam…..
Terrorism is not that big of a deal…it should be monitored and controlled by our police agencies….not the government….
OBL is not that bad….hell, America created him!!
Saddam is not the bad…hell, America created him!!
Did I mention that Bush and the Republicans are the devil reincarnate?
Mahmoud Ahmadinejad is not that bad….he does not want nukes for weapons…its all about the fuel baby!!!
Problems in the Middle East…Americas fault…
Darfur? Bush and Cheney are not fully responsible for the genocide—but at least 78%….
Did I mention that Bush and the Republicans are the devil reincarnate?
Try to resolve the problems in the Middle East??—Why does America feel it should stick its nose in others business…
Israel…America’s puppet….
Israel is the cause of most of the problems in the Middle East….Hezbollah is not a terrorist organization—they were “elected†into a position of power in a democratic government!!!
America did the worse job of evacuating its citizens from Lebanon…Denmark did the best…Denmark is #1!!! Denmark is #1!!!….
Did I mention that Bush and the Republicans are the devil reincarnate?
American flags are made for one purpose….to burn!!!!!!!!
The primary run off in Ct proves that the American people want an immediate withdrawal from Iraq….
AIDS in Africa killing scores? Bush’s Fault….well, maybe 82% responsible…
Socialism #1…Communism #2….Dictatorship #3…Democracy #4…as ranked by the bloggers on “Think Progress†as best form of govt….
Global Warming is a direct cause of Bush being the Chief-executive……
The short-comings of American schools…a direct cause of Bush being the Chief-executive……
The short-comings of Health-care….a direct cause of Bush being the Chief-executive……
Oil?….ever since man has been able to process it into a usable fuel….all the problems have been…..a direct cause of Bush being the Chief-executive……
Wal-mart=Capitalism=Bush cronies=Conservatives=devil
Did I mention that Bush and the Republicans are the devil reincarnate?
Mexican Immigration problem? No problemo…
Katrina?….a direct cause of Bush being the Chief-executive……not the response—the actual cause of the hurricane…a direct cause of Bush being the Chief-executive
Katrina…response to it?….Bush hates blacks…..it’s that simple……did I mention Bush hates Mexicans, Canadians, French, Italians, Spaniards, Russians, Irish, Germans, Chinese, Japanese, Filipinos, Aussies, Swedes, New Zealanders, anybody that might be of south American persuasion, anybody that might be a mix bred, anybody from Africa-even if they “look†white, and of course…all Muslims….
Did I mention that according to this site that Bush hates gays? And wants them dead?
The economy—-the worse it’s been in the history of America—-….is a direct cause of Bush being the Chief-executive……
International relations? well—before Bush we were loved from china to south America…but now—America is hated all around the world and we need to kowtow to the Europeans and Islam so they like us…..we want other people to like us…we really want other people to like us………please like us…..please?
Homeless problem in a city/town near you?…a direct cause of Bush being the Chief-executive…
Abortion is good (million+ innocents a year)…Death penalty is Bad (handful of convicted criminals a year)….
(Did I mention that Bush and the Republicans are the devil reincarnate?
Lines at the super-market….. a direct cause of Bush being the Chief-executive…
Howard Stern being fined for foul behavior/language…. a direct cause of Bush being the Chief-executive….
Katrina “evacuees†in Houston or other cities committing hideous crimes?… a direct cause of Bush being the Chief-executive……
Christian groups are bigots and things such as “faith day†(at a ball park after the game) are nothing more than the radical rights attempt at “christian-izing†us….
America’s military is weak and the Draft is right around the corner…
“God†should not be in the Pledge….
“God†should not be on our currency…
“God†should not be……….
Cindy Sheehan should not be questioned nor debated…..her son died for her right to hang out in Crawford dam it!!!
America went to war unprepared….look at the hummers!! They have absolutely no armor….and its Bush’s fault…
Democrats and Republicans are all the same…evil…out for themselves…slave-masters (its in their family history)…sex addicts…and of course out to kill Americans in a fake war that was based on purposely fraudulent intelligence…
The (mass) media is covering up everything!!!
Good policing and investigative work is called—racial profiling!!!
“Minimum Wage should be at least $18.00 a hourâ€
“Progressive†reporters get kick out of all the neo-cons news briefings…
“My phones have been taped because I went to an anti-war rally!â€
“My cable has been on the blink and my phone has been making weird noises since I went to a anti-war Rallyâ€
Anybody that makes money and lives a successful life MUST be doing something that hurts the poor or crippled….
Taxes and more taxes are good for the economy…tax cuts/breaks only help the millionaires…
SUV’s were created by conservatives that wanted to help out their “oil buddiesâ€â€¦
People should not be expected to take care of themselves!!! That’s the role of government…
People should not be able to invest their social security account as they wish!! That’s the role of the government…
If I forgot a topic or an issue please just fill it in with the following…
“BLAH-DA-DOO-DAA- BLAH-DA-DOO-DAA- BLAH-DA-DOO-DAA- BLAH-DA-DOO-DAA- WAA-WAA WAA-WAA WAA-WAA WAA-WAA..BUSH IS THE DEVIL BLAH-DA-DOO-DAA- BLAH-DA-DOO-DAA- BLAH-DA-DOO-DAA- BLAH-DA-DOO-DAA…REPUBLICANS ARE THE DEVIL… WAA-WAA WAA-WAA WAA-WAA WAA-WAA…AMERICA IS THE CAUSE OF ALL THE PROBLEMS IN THE WORLD…-DA-DOO-DAA- BLAH-DA-DOO-DAA- BLAH-DA-DOO-DAA…â€
IN CONLUSION::::::
I have posted this because it addresses nearly all the issues that “think progress†and its bloggers believe/state/dream about….in other words, this post can be placed on any of your blogs and it will make sense……thanks “think progress†bloggers for making this so easy….if you think my post is foolish….please remember—these are your words (with some editing liberties taken…oh I forgot—I should not mention anything about taking liberties)….dam America!!!
August 15th, 2006 at 1:58 pmIn response to the quote from 23:
I played rough in touble games with my dad. I played baseball, soccer, basketball, and ran track. I even showered with him as a child and it turns out I’m gay. Solid advice Dobson…
August 16th, 2006 at 4:23 amUh hi there 110:
regarding your “package deal” the bible also says to stone your wife if she cheats on your or your children if they lie to you. I hope that you are singe and never have kids b/c there will be a lot of dead babies in your house. Or did you ignore that part of your Bible? better check out your package deal!
August 16th, 2006 at 4:31 amLike Dobson is an authority on homosexuality and its “prevention” (which can only be done by preventing conception/birth). He recommends dads shower with their sons and play “let’s see who has the bigger wang”.
August 25th, 2006 at 12:57 am