God to blame for global warming?
By on Aug 3rd, 2006 at 1:50 pm
God to blame for global warming?
“I cannot imagine any objective finding that CO2 is a pollutant,” says Rep. Joe Barton (R-TX). “If that’s true, God is a polluter.”
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Christofascist ignoramus.
August 3rd, 2006 at 1:55 pmThese chuckleheads need to be put out of their misery. What an imbecile.
August 3rd, 2006 at 1:56 pmjesus also loves war !
August 3rd, 2006 at 1:59 pmA thread I can actually post this news on.
Another tidbit today: Colorado State Department of Atmospheric Science has reduced their estimate for Atlantic hurricanes this season.
August 3rd, 2006 at 2:01 pmand jesus was a neo-con, hated the poor, believe war was the answer to everything, and is REALLY happy that the US is helping to "cleanse" the "holy land" so "the rapture" may ensue and he'll come back, happy as hell about how things have gone over the past 2000 years.
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August 3rd, 2006 at 2:02 pm#3 - jesus also loves war !
Damn! right, I do.
If any of these supposed christians ever pulled their heads out of their a**es long enough to see what's really going on in the world, they'd be forced change their minds about many many things.
August 3rd, 2006 at 2:03 pmIf that's his logic, I know a company that would love to store lots of mercury in the water table under Rep. Barton's house.
August 3rd, 2006 at 2:04 pmThat goes to show the intellectual level of the those who poo-poo the reality of global warming. What a d-bag. The saddest part is that millions buy this logic and ingorance.
August 3rd, 2006 at 2:05 pmGuys like Barton know where global warming comes from, they just think they're immune.
Here's a relevant article--from the Observer--about a Pentagon Study from 2003 predicting the devastating consequences of global warming:
"Sunday February 22, 2004
The Observer
Now the Pentagon tells Bush: climate change will destroy us
· Secret report warns of rioting and nuclear war
· Britain will be 'Siberian' in less than 20 years
· Threat to the world is greater than terrorism
Mark Townsend and Paul Harris in New York
Sunday February 22, 2004
The Observer
Climate change over the next 20 years could result in a global catastrophe costing millions of lives in wars and natural disasters..
A secret report, suppressed by US defence chiefs and obtained by The Observer, warns that major European cities will be sunk beneath rising seas
as Britain is plunged into a 'Siberian' climate by 2020. Nuclear conflict, mega-droughts, famine and widespread rioting will erupt across the world.
The document predicts that abrupt climate change could bring the planet to the edge of anarchy as countries develop a nuclear threat to defend and
secure dwindling food, water and energy supplies. The threat to global stability vastly eclipses that of terrorism, say the few experts privy to
its contents..."
Full text of the article can be found here:
http://observer.guardian.co.uk/international/story/0,6903,1153513,00.html
August 3rd, 2006 at 2:08 pm#7
That's a good point!
August 3rd, 2006 at 2:09 pmCHASE........ the troll,...making a difference for the right
see him
August 3rd, 2006 at 2:10 pmIf there was an energy production system that produced oxygen as a by-product and the oxygen percentage reached heights that would make our atmosphere ignite these idiots would still say oxygen is not a pollutant. The adage of everything is a poison, it just depends on the dose seems lost on these morons.
August 3rd, 2006 at 2:10 pmIf there was any problem with global warming, junior would just have another conversation with God and tell us all about what they have planned to do.
August 3rd, 2006 at 2:24 pm#12 The adage of everything is a poison, it just depends on the dose seems lost on these morons.
Comment by dlet — August 3, 2006 @ 2:10 pm
SNAP. Took the words right out of my mouth.
For Christs sake, water is lethal when inhaled, and we actually need that to live. This guy sees no circumstance were CO2 is a pollutant? These people are beyond moronic.
August 3rd, 2006 at 2:24 pmComment by Chase — August 3, 2006 @ 2:01 pm
To summarize the revisions:
Named storms: 15 instead of 17.
Hurricanes: 7 instead of 9.
Intense hurricanes: 3 instead of 5.
I feel better already.
August 3rd, 2006 at 2:26 pmWe need to warn the Honarable Idiot from Texas of the dangers of dihydrogen oxide
August 3rd, 2006 at 2:28 pmIts toxic properties:
- Causes excessive sweating and vomiting
- A major component of acid rain
- Can cause severe burns in the gaseous state
- Accidental inhalation can kill you
- Primary contributor to erosion
- Decreases effectiveness of automobile brakes
- Has been found in tumors of terminal cancer patients
- May dissolve metal ions especially in the presence of road salt
OUST THE CAREER, POISON-MINDED POLITICIANS THIS FALL.
NO INCUMBENTS!
August 3rd, 2006 at 2:31 pmGod to blame for global warming?
Yes, and Rep. Joe Barton (R-TX) is one of the God's farts responsibles of global warming.
August 3rd, 2006 at 2:36 pmChase,
What's your point? That a slightly reduced (but historically high) forecast for number of hurricanes proves that Michael Chricton is the world's greatest scientist and climate expert?
August 3rd, 2006 at 2:36 pmBadmoon,
No need to create new terms, just say crusader - now run along ....
August 3rd, 2006 at 2:37 pmScience is DEAD in TEXAS
August 3rd, 2006 at 2:43 pm#14, Brian,
Depends on how you are trying to describe CO2 ....
100% pure CO2 is a greenhouse gas, but at current levels of
August 3rd, 2006 at 2:44 pmHoly shit our government is full of morons.
August 3rd, 2006 at 2:44 pmNo jason, I will let Bush say Crusade.
August 3rd, 2006 at 2:47 pmGod also makes illegal drugs like marijuana.
August 3rd, 2006 at 2:49 pm#24, Krazny,
See, so now you don't need to make up terms ....
August 3rd, 2006 at 2:56 pmWhy not? the right seems to enjoy Islamo-headchoppers. I think I or anyone can make up a term. What depends is how catchy the term ends up. Would Christofacist ever make into mainstream like American Taliban? Probably not.
August 3rd, 2006 at 2:59 pmNow they blame God and if that doesn't work they'll blame Bill Clinton. Notice Bush never get blamed for anything that he's done wrong and there is alot gone wrong.
August 3rd, 2006 at 3:00 pmNow that's the Bush policy and a new generation of kids will learn to blame others never themselves. What an example of democracy and values of the United States. I guess the GOP can be proud of the new christen values of America.
Better they blame God than Bill Clinton. Puts him in good company, though.
August 3rd, 2006 at 3:04 pm#14, Brian,
Depends on how you are trying to describe CO2 ….
100% pure CO2 is a greenhouse gas, but at current levels of
Comment by Jason M. Hendler — August 3, 2006 @ 2:44 pm
Thanks for sparing us the entire post. Exactly my point. Actually the poster before me's point, but I agree. Anything in the wrong amount is toxic.
August 3rd, 2006 at 3:04 pm#28, Jackie,
Bill Clinton, who was IMPEACHED, succeeded in moving the Dems to the middle, now the progs are pulling the Dems far left. Liberal pundits have pointed out how this same situation in the 60's resulted in Nixon's election to president. Bubba made your party viable, so I give him far more credit than blame.
August 3rd, 2006 at 3:06 pmThese guys need to take a few science classes, so they won't be so clueless.
August 3rd, 2006 at 3:09 pmJason the Dems never moved from the middle. the wackos running the government, are just trying to claim the far right bit of the bank they claim as being the new middle.
August 3rd, 2006 at 3:11 pm[...] August 3rd, 2006 at 2:50 pm (news) “I cannot imagine any objective finding that CO2 is a pollutant,†says Rep. Joe Barton (R-TX). “If that’s true, God is a polluter.†[...]
August 3rd, 2006 at 3:12 pmWhen a great scientific mind like Pat Robertson is on your side of the issue, how can you be wrong? Link.
August 3rd, 2006 at 3:14 pmdidn't they just spend millions of dollars trying to impeach Clinton? Proceedings were brought against him, but in the end was was not impeached.
not that it matters -- conservatives still love to blame Clinton for everything that has gone wrong on their watch :)
August 3rd, 2006 at 3:16 pmTechnically Clinton was impeached by the house of representatives. When the matter was passed to the senate, it was formally dropped. It is correct to say Clinton was impeached, however it does not provide the full picture.
August 3rd, 2006 at 3:21 pmJust a footnote about Global Warming: the official climate observatory of Barcelone (Spain, Europe), has just released this statement "July has been the hottest July in average since 1914". That is 92 years. There have been 27 days over 30ºC (86F), and a maximum of 35.1ºC (95.18F). That's HOT for this city.
August 3rd, 2006 at 3:27 pm#38
August 3rd, 2006 at 3:34 pmSpaniard,
That is the biggest problem for the world with the US government not taking Global Warming seriously. Its not contained within the US. The only boundary it is kept in by is the one between space and the atmosphere.
the weather is also not the only reason to do something about pollution:
1) we have a moral obligation to protect the planet for ourselves and future generations
2) dependence on foreign energy sources is driving most of the conflict in the world... by investing in the many practical alternatives, we can do a lot to bring peace to the world... what could be more Christian than that?
3) Oil companies are going to have to make a sacrifice at some point in the future... better that it happens now, rather than later when its too late to fix the mess.
The same thing happened with the telegraph companies when the phone was invented: they went out of business.. well, the world ain't always fair is it? (where have I heard that before?)
August 3rd, 2006 at 3:34 pmThe real question is just how much CO2 there is that Republican bubble.
August 3rd, 2006 at 3:42 pmSomeone should put a CO2 mask on Rep. Joe Barton and tell him to breathe deeply for God....breathe in God's CO2....hallelujah....amen.
August 3rd, 2006 at 3:46 pmSince it's God's fault - solve global warming - impeach God. The hearings would be very interesting. They would have to shore up the lightening protection systems in the Capital Building if the hearings were not held in Hell (Which would be the most probable venue.).
August 3rd, 2006 at 3:49 pmJoe Barton is a sleezeball on the order of Tom Delay, below are some links demonstrating what kind of a nut and dirtbag Barton is.
August 3rd, 2006 at 4:10 pm#44 - Bluein Texas,
August 3rd, 2006 at 4:13 pmHow did you post those links? This is the second instance where links have appearred to drop into the bit bucket.
#19 - My point is:
a.) Last years hurricane season prompted forecasters to be overly caution (read: pessimistic) in their 2006 predictions
b.) the media fervor surrounding global warming further influenced their initial predictions, toward a more extreme end
c.) a slow start to the season has led them to moderate their estimates back toward the historical trend.
Fair assumptions?
August 3rd, 2006 at 4:27 pm#46
Fair assumptions?
a) That can be assumed, sure, without the "overly". Whatever that would mean in this topic.
b) Not so much. That an opinion if you ask me. But you can "assume" anything you want to. Still a free country...for now.
c) That can be assumed.
August 3rd, 2006 at 4:44 pm#48 - I think it's obvious that hurricane forecasters were anxious coming into this season and, as a result, allowed that pessimism to influence their predictions.
#47 -
Really? I must have missed that. Got any citation for those "quotes"?
August 3rd, 2006 at 4:56 pmI thought this thread was about Bartons idiotic quote...Seems these righty's always find a way to blame Clinton. Nice try but unfortunately this website is not sponsored by FOX NEWS. Take your pathetic rhetoric and stick it up your @$$.
August 3rd, 2006 at 5:04 pm#52 - Thanks for the link.
I have no opinion whatsoever on global warming. I'm in Texas - it's always warm. I also understand the world goes through natural warming and cooling periods. I'm reminded of a George Carlin bit which really struck a cord with me:
Dr. Gray may be a quack. He may not be. For a supposed quack, his predictions sure get a lot of media coverage - from Newsweek, Reuters, The AP, the Houston Chronicle, the New Orleans Times-Picayune, and CNN.
August 3rd, 2006 at 5:19 pmWell technically, God created humans, so God is indirectly responsible for global warming.
August 3rd, 2006 at 5:34 pmDr. Gray may be a quack. He may not be.
Comment by Chase — August 3, 2006 @ 5:19 pm
I don't think he is a quack. He is an authority in the hurricane field, but on the global warming subject he is flat out wrong.
Most of his arguments can be translataed into "it is not so because I say so", or he tries to smear global warming proponents by insinuating financial interests.
Here is a rebuttal to one of Dr Gray's papers and a window into his "seat of the pants" approach to scientific inquiry: Gray and Muddy Thinking about Global Warming
There will always be naysayers, deniers in science. Once the scientific community reaches a consensus, they move on while those deniers will keep denying until they die.
August 3rd, 2006 at 5:47 pm#57 - For Truth,
August 3rd, 2006 at 6:35 pmI have contacted Darwin and am working on a treatise to explain a Theory of Devolution in order to explain The Origin of the Neocons. As the Earth has a history of a mere 6000 years, we have been unsuccessful in identifying a species primitive enough to explain their existence. Based on DNA samples, he closest matches have been found in sulfur-feeding tube worms in the mid-Atlantic rift.
Too much of anything can be bad Joe...including ignorance.
August 3rd, 2006 at 7:50 pmPoor Mr. Gray, first lost his Government funding for hurricane research, THEN became a Global Warming skeptic because funding shifted towards GW research.
Hmm, no correlation there (droooool).
August 3rd, 2006 at 10:55 pmWe have been lucky that our atmosphere allows for life forms to even exist > look at the other planets that have toxic chemicals floating around them > if we keep polluting our world, then one day we might NOT have any air to breath?! And as the air vanishes we might be forced to crawl on the ground sucking the last vapors, before we all perish!
August 4th, 2006 at 12:09 amI love the smell of that Texas wisdom.
August 4th, 2006 at 8:35 amBush would never support lowering greenhouse gases because that would say that god is a polluter.
#61 - smell of that Texas wisdom - LOL. It must be something in the air and water that makes these politicians from Texas "dumpkofts".
August 4th, 2006 at 8:58 am#4 - Thanks chase, if you read the details, you will notice that the predictions are still way higher than in the last century which was only 6 years ago.
POST 1-AUGUST PROBABILITIES FOR AT LEAST ONE MAJOR (CATEGORY 3-4-5) HURRICANE LANDFALL ON EACH OF THE FOLLOWING COASTAL AREAS:
1) Entire U.S. coastline - 73% (average for last century is 52%)
2) U.S. East Coast Including Peninsula Florida - 64% (average for last century is 31%)
3) Gulf Coast from the Florida Panhandle westward to Brownsville - 26% (average for last century is 30%)
4) Above-average major hurricane landfall risk in the Caribbean
With the exception of item 3, the hurricane season is still above average.
Chase, you really should READ the articles that you attach links to.
August 4th, 2006 at 9:09 amKrazny - Christofacist, good term, only it sounds too inclusive. There are christians that don't support the American Taliban so this term could be seen as offensive to them.
August 4th, 2006 at 9:18 amI think the chain of reasoning is meant to go like this:
Any objective finding that COS is a pollutant is true
August 6th, 2006 at 10:33 pm=> God is a polluter
=> God is bad
!!! BRAIN EXPLOSION !!!
=> God is good
=> God is not a polluter
=> Any objective finding that CO2 is a pollutant is false.
how can anyone really that global warming is gods doin . do christians believe that a 'noah' some where is going to make a space ship and take all good christians to another planet?. shit if so we better all start going to church on sundays.
February 14th, 2007 at 4:25 am