Fox Guest: All Gibson Critics Are ‘Very Sick, They’re Getting A Vicious, Sick, Perverted, Sadistic Thrill’
Fox Guest: All Gibson Critics Are ‘Very Sick, They’re Getting A Vicious, Sick, Perverted, Sadistic Thrill’
Yesterday on Fox’s Your World With Neil Cavuto, guest Jackie Mason lashed out at people who criticized Mel Gibson for his anti-semitic tirade. Mason said all Gibson’s critics were “very sick, they’re getting a vicious, sick, perverted, sadistic thrill out of this whole thing.” Mason added that critics were just using Gibson’s anti-semtic remarks as an excuse because “they have always been envious and bitter and jealous of a guy who makes such a huge success.” Watch it:
Full Transcript:
CAVUTO: Well, Jackie Mason, legendary comic. And did you know he became a rabbi as a young man? Well, believe it or not, he says everyone is taking Mel’s drunken rants against jews way too seriously. Exactly why is Jackie so forgiving? Why are you so forgiving?
MASON: I’ll be honest with you; it’s not that I’m so forgiving. It’s that all these people are very sick; they’re getting a vicious, sick, perverted, sadistic thrill out of this whole thing. Look at the glee in them, look at the happiness about catching him — because they’re basically failures; they never amounted to anything. There are actors struggling to make a living and they have always been envious and bitter and jealous of a guy who makes such a huge success. So now when the guys been a great crusader against anti-semitism. They found an excuse. It’s all an excuse, a rationalization of — a phony excuse to bury this guy because they’re enjoying it with such a sick, perverted pleasure.
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Jackie Mason is alive? Who knew?
He does have a point about the Mel Gibson thing.
August 5th, 2006 at 9:57 pmoh, THAT jackie mason….
August 5th, 2006 at 10:20 pmBizarro World never fails to surprise me.
Jackie Mason defending Gibson’s anti-Semetic tirade seems as absurd as President Bush defending Bill Maher from attacks by Jessie Helms.
Why didn’t I choose the BLUE pill? :)
August 5th, 2006 at 10:32 pmI can remember many a thing I have said as a child and even into adulthood that was quite spiteful toward many a race and religion.
And I watched this particular blip, and the point that he was making is that Mel apologized, and you can really only apologize once,,,something that ANNE COULTER by the way hasn’t done for her sober and hateful remarks.
A few months ago I was sitting here, and I heard yelling, f You f youuuuuuuuu! F all you muther f’s!!! The neighbor across the street, a ‘home bound’ drunk, at that moment, hated the whole neighborhood. I didn’t call the police and he went back in, eventually, and no one called the police. He was however very embarassed for several weeks and would not speak to me.
Eventually he came over and apologized for his drunken tirade.
Many would never apologize at all…how many times must one apologize for their ignorant drunken tirades? 1-5-100-1,000,000??
August 5th, 2006 at 10:34 pmEh, I don’t know. Maybe there are some people who get sick pleasure out of Mel’s downfall. People do that, generally. The point I would like to make about Mel and all of his critics is the following:
I don’t care. This is not real news.
August 5th, 2006 at 10:42 pmRabbi Herman Krustofski forgives all.
August 5th, 2006 at 10:49 pmCAVUTO: Well, Jackie Mason, legendary comic.
Note he didnt say comediant.
And, of course, Mason is completely right.
August 5th, 2006 at 10:50 pmMel went out, he got shit-faced, he drove drunk (the most dangerous thing that night), he got arrested, he spewed stupid disgusting bile, and then he sincerely apologized the next day.
He didn’t give the standard wimpy apology most give: “I’m sorry if YOU were offended…” He really apologized. He must now deal with the fall out to his career, and Gibson, of all people knows this best.
The news media has turned the incident into a feeding frenzy, and they will not let it go. There are wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, and Israel and Lebanon are heading that way.
Since he has apologized, I couldn’t care less about Mel Gibson’s drunken tirade.
August 5th, 2006 at 10:51 pmzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz (snore) zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
August 5th, 2006 at 10:53 pmI’d like to see Coulter on the cover of People, explaining her stone cold sober racist comments. What hypocrisy.
August 5th, 2006 at 10:55 pmPlease, everybody, do a mental exercise here. Change the word(s) Jew(s) with the word communist(s). Do you think the media would give this broad cover out of this? Once again this is a fine example of which group has the power in the media (and government, but shhhh…Jason and Chase can be reading this)
August 5th, 2006 at 10:57 pmApologies in advance for changing the subject but has anoyone noticed how this blog is avoiding the CT story? Could that perhaps be that Poindexter, et al. are readying to turn it into a Hillary Blog in 2008 and DON’T WANT TO HIGHLIGHT THE FACT THAT LIEBERMAN’S EMBARRASSING LOSS IS ALSO A LOSS FOR HILLARY? At least the Washington Post has picked up on the fact that GORE IS THE DEMS MOST VIABLE CANDIDATE IN ‘08. HE CAN WIN AND HE SPEAKS HIS CONVICTION AND THE TRUTH. HILLARY DOES NOT. Now watch this get censored.
August 5th, 2006 at 10:58 pmSorry Mr. Podesta…didn’t mean to call you Poindexter.
August 5th, 2006 at 11:03 pmSaying Gibson is a dumbass for that rant = “very sick”?
Those critics are clearly getting a “vicious, sick, perverted, sadistic thrill”.
(rolls eyes)
August 5th, 2006 at 11:05 pmHey Juan, if you’re still here, how’s it going?
August 5th, 2006 at 11:08 pmHey Juan, if you’re still here, how’s it going?
Comment by Zooey — August 5, 2006 @ 11:08 pm
Going what? Ha! Did you mean like a general question or something specific?
August 5th, 2006 at 11:10 pmEcerything is ok. How are you, zoo? Hows the weekend?
Going what? Ha! Did you mean like a general question or something specific?
“It” meaning life in general. ;)
Ecerything is ok. How are you, zoo? Hows the weekend?
Comment by Juan C
The weekend is going well, so far. The air is so smoky right now, that I think I may have black lung by Sunday. The wheat farmers are burning off the fields.
August 5th, 2006 at 11:19 pmThe wheat farmers are burning off the fields.
Comment by Zooey — August 5, 2006 @ 11:19 pm
So…are you from the country? I mean, are you a farmer or a peasant? If thats the case, thats really nice. I would love to have that life (somewhat). I know I am speaking without knowing your answer but the night is really nice here, after the rain, and so, I just in the peasant-farmer-bolshevik mood. Ha.
August 5th, 2006 at 11:24 pmWhen I was young, we said: “Made you look, you dirty crook.”, and also: “Sticks and stone may break my bones, but names will never hurt me.”. Let it pass.
August 5th, 2006 at 11:30 pmI agree with #5.
This is Entertainment Tonight material.,
August 5th, 2006 at 11:32 pmI just in the peasant-farmer-bolshevik mood. Ha.
Comment by Juan C
You are truly a romantic, Juan. Actually, Moscow is a small town, about 20,000 people, right in the middle of wheat country called The Palouse. I live on the edge of town, next to some wheat fields, and they decided to burn this year. I don’t like it when they burn, for the obvious reasons, but it also drives out the wildlife, and they get killed on the roads. On a quiet morning, I can sit at my window and watch quail, pheasant, rabbits, hawks, and the occasional mouse. Burning the fields knocks that out of balance for a while.
August 5th, 2006 at 11:34 pmI guess Jackie Mason appearing on a talk show to complain means that he himself got a vicious, sick, perverted, sadistic thrill in talking about Gibson too.
August 5th, 2006 at 11:44 pmThe liberals opposition to Joe Lieberman is because of anti-semitism. They don’t like jews and they are going after Lieberman.
August 5th, 2006 at 11:46 pmBurning the fields knocks that out of balance for a while.
Comment by Zooey — August 5, 2006 @ 11:34 pm
Why do they burn the wheat?
It is known that in III world countries the woods and jungles are burned due to a renewal ancient technique (that is useful somehow), but then the fire spreads and creates havoc somewhere else. Kind of religious ceremony involved.
Do you work in the fields? That would be amazing (and very hard, I might add).
I was just googling The palouse…nice pictures.
A “Contra” is a traditional country dance form done in long lines. (The “Virginia Reel” is a Contra.) The moves are similar to square dance: swing, do-se-do, etc., but are done up and down long lines. It’s not difficult. Every dance is taught. You dance with everyone anyway, so finding partners is easy. Beginners, singles & families are all welcome. And the music is great!
I can almost imagining you dancing this…saying: THis is crap!
August 5th, 2006 at 11:47 pmwhat do DRUNK JEWS think of arabs?
August 5th, 2006 at 11:47 pmThe liberals opposition to Joe Lieberman is because of anti-semitism. They don’t like jews and they are going after Lieberman.
Comment by Darien Taylor
Oy, that must be it. We hate Lieberman because he’s one of us, not because he’s always kissing George W. Bush.
August 5th, 2006 at 11:48 pmwhat do DRUNK JEWS think of arabs?
Liberals don’t like jews. And they are using Joe Lieberman as a way of sending a message that they don’t like them.
August 5th, 2006 at 11:50 pmWe hate Lieberman because he’s one of us
Regardless if he’s one of “us.” Lieberman is jewish and liberals are using the race to go after him. Liberals don’t like jews. The campaign against Lieberman is based on anti-semitism.
August 5th, 2006 at 11:51 pmJackie Mason has a point.
August 5th, 2006 at 11:52 pmhe himself got a vicious, sick, perverted, sadistic thrill in talking about Gibson too
Liberals get a sick, perverted, sadistic thrill going after Lieberman because they see it as a way of sending a message to a jew that they don’t like them.
August 5th, 2006 at 11:53 pmReligious Right fear Gibson’s “Passion of the Christ” will lose its effectiveness as Anti-Jew, Christian Fundamentalist training video;defends Gibson’s Anti-Semitic Tirade
“The one that has hurt the most people is a verse in Matthew when the Jewish crowd is made to say, “His blood be upon us and upon our children.” Because that echoed and got quoted over and over and over through the centuries and justified anti-Semitism.” — John Shelby Spong
“Yet, nearly 6 decades after the Holocaust concluded, Anti-Semitism still exists as the scourge of the world.” — Eliot Engel
“The growing tide of anti-Semitism shocks the conscious of everyone who values freedom, and the ugly, hateful acts particularly stain the character of democracies where liberty and religious freedom are supposed to be respected.” –
Mike Ferguson
“Why does Israel have to pay a price higher than any other nation? One of the tenets of anti-Semitism over the centuries has been a reverse exceptionalism in which Jews are judged more harshly for acting like everyone else.” — Jack Schwartz
August 5th, 2006 at 11:55 pmDo you work in the fields? That would be amazing (and very hard, I might add).
I was just googling The palouse…nice pictures.
Thank the powers that be, Juan, I do not work in the fields. I am a court clerk, and I handle all the felony cases in our little county. The Palouse country is very beautiful, isn’t it? They burn the fields after the harvest to keep down the fungus levels in the soil — that’s what they say anyway. I think they just want to give me lung cancer. ;)
A “Contra†is a traditional country dance form done in long lines.
I can almost imagining you dancing this…saying: THis is crap!
Holy shit, Juan! If you think I’d ever go near a place where they were doing that, we just cannot be friend anymore! I can’t stand country music, country dancing, plaid shirts, and cowboy boots — and that was even before GWB made those things even more loathsome.
August 5th, 2006 at 11:57 pmActually, I’ve never even heard of a “contra.” :)
Jews are judged more harshly for acting like everyone else
Exactly. This is what is happening to Joe Lieberman. He’s jewish. He just can’t get a break. Liberals are going after him to send a message to jews. They don’t like them.
August 5th, 2006 at 11:57 pmAll of my friends are Jews or liberals. No wonder I’m confused.
August 6th, 2006 at 12:00 amremarkably, zooey, jackie mason does an annual burn of the hair coming out of his ears and nose… and, in his case, small wildlife is released into the streets of manhattan, and many of the little fellows, alas, die in the traffic… :(
August 6th, 2006 at 12:01 amComment by Darien Taylor — August 5, 2006 @ 11:53 pm
August 6th, 2006 at 12:01 amGot your point. There are some of us that dont believe in Dem or Rep side. There is a lot more in the world than Lieberman. The majority of us are against violence: whether it comes from jewish, africans, scandinavians or muslims. The thing is that right now, jewish people represented (some of them) by Israel are attacking viciously Lebanon. Even more, they have invaded a land where jewish people already lived peacefully along with arabs and christians. So, yes, right now, jews are psychopaths when they kill civilians for spreading reasons. Oh, I forgot, they are looking for 2 guys while hundreds of civilians died. Now…moving on.
Give it a rest, Darien. Liberals don’t like Lieberman because he’s a Republican in Democrat’s clothing, not because he’s a Jew.
August 6th, 2006 at 12:01 amWhere do all the loons here crawl out from on a Saturday night?
I’d believe Mel Gibson’s apology if there was an iota of a chance that he’d not be am active anti-semite in the future, the way he was with Passion. It’s not news? Nope, it’s not news. Mel Gibson is an anti-semite, and it’s not news to me nor should it be to anyone who watches and listens. The soiftening of the Church’s stance wrt Jews was most of what there was to Vatican II, and Mel and his fathare are hard-core pre Vatican II.
August 6th, 2006 at 12:02 amComment by non nodno no
Oh my, have I hijacked another thread? Bad Zoot, bad bad Zoot!
August 6th, 2006 at 12:02 amAll of my friends are Jews or liberals. No wonder I’m confused.
Nevertheless, it is anti-semitism that is rearing its ugly head in the Lieberman race. It has everything to do with him being Jewish. Liberals hate Israel and they are going after Lieberman to send a message. Lamont is a white protestant. Nuff said.
August 6th, 2006 at 12:04 amNuff said.
Comment by Darien Taylor
So you’ll be going then…?
August 6th, 2006 at 12:05 amLiberals don’t like Lieberman because he’s a Republican in Democrat’s clothing, not because he’s a Jew.
That’s not true. Liberals don’t like Lieberman because he’s Jewish. Period. Lamont is not Jewish so liberals love him.
August 6th, 2006 at 12:05 amhijacking of a thread? we don’t see no stinking hijacking… hey, phil…it is your turn to get the crispy creme…air traffic? wake me up if you one of these little blips does something cool, okay?
August 6th, 2006 at 12:05 amYenta, don’t you have a David Duke rally to be attending?
August 6th, 2006 at 12:06 amYenta, don’t you have a David Duke rally to be attending?
Comment by Darien Taylor
David Duke is so yesterday. Rev Fred Phelps gets all the hip kids.
August 6th, 2006 at 12:08 amI guess it takes a racist to defend a racist.
August 6th, 2006 at 12:08 ammorning line on who ‘darien’ really is
place your bets and takes your chances!
August 6th, 2006 at 12:09 amRev Fred Phelps gets all the hip kids.
Liberals must adore him. They can all get together and hate jews and bash Israel together. If Lieberman weren’t Jewish, liberals would not be opposing him as we speak.
August 6th, 2006 at 12:10 amHoly shit, Juan! If you think I’d ever go near a place where they were doing that, we just cannot be friend anymore!
What do you do for fun?
I can’t stand country music, country dancing, plaid shirts, and cowboy boots
August 6th, 2006 at 12:10 amYou know I always had this really bad opinion about US (until I heard of Michael Moore, watch his movies, find his site, find this place, and find people like you)
This is a common feature from Central and South Americans due to all the occupations and support to dictatorships. However I happen to like a lot the music from the Apalaches. Maybe I am confused about geographical regions and the local culture, but whenever I picture wheat fields I start hearing a banjo playing a sad toone, and a voice with a sadder lyric. Really cool.
Lying, Propagandizing, RightWingNeoConservatives fail in attempt to create conflict between Liberals and Jews; NeoCons suddenly realize Liberals and Jews don’t wear bed sheets or vote for Bush
#23 The liberals opposition to Joe Lieberman is because of anti-semitism. They don’t like jews and they are going after Lieberman.
Comment by Darien Taylor — August 5, 2006 @ 11:46 pm
#30 Liberals get a sick, perverted, sadistic thrill going after Lieberman because they see it as a way of sending a message to a jew that they don’t like them.
Comment by Darien Taylor — August 5, 2006 @ 11:53 pm
#Mental Note: Gosh I hope someone believes this horseshit otherwise come November my Bigotted buddies in the House and Senate are going bye bye and the Dems will be Impeaching Bush….hmmm…looks like I’m screwed!
Comment by Darien Taylor — August 5, 2006 @ 11:53 pm
August 6th, 2006 at 12:13 amOK, Darien, you found us out. I also hate Spaceballs and Robin Hood: Men in Tights… well, actually I do hate Robin Hood: Men in Tights because of its spectacular crap-assedness. But I still like Spaceballs.
August 6th, 2006 at 12:14 ami completely support by countrywoman from darien. to prove the point that liberals hate leiberman for being jewish, 100% voted for him to become the next vice-president in 2000, knowing full well that the election would get stolen by bush and joe would be a loser… bad liberals bad!
[note to darien from cos cob: do you *really* think this will work???]
August 6th, 2006 at 12:16 amDarien Taylor has no gift for sarcasm.
August 6th, 2006 at 12:18 amOK, Darien, you found us out.
If Lieberman weren’t Jewish, no liberals would go after him. He would be accepted just like Hillary Clinton and John Kerry are accepted. Lieberman’s voting record is the exact same as Hillary’s. Liberals oppose Lieberman because of anti-semitism.
August 6th, 2006 at 12:18 amto prove the point that liberals hate leiberman for being jewish, 100% voted for him to become the next vice-president in 2000
Not true. Liberals in 2000 voted for Nader. In 2006, they are supporting Lamont. Liberals don’t like Jews. Look at the hatred they show toward Israel. And the sick anti-semitic comments they make toward Lieberman.
August 6th, 2006 at 12:24 amnote to darien from cos cob:
oops! i called up that number and they said that, yes, russ feingold really IS jewish… can we go now? i don’t really think we are going to get anywhere tonight with this nonsense…
August 6th, 2006 at 12:24 amJuan,
We should move our hijacking attempt to the ThinkFast thread. :)
August 6th, 2006 at 12:28 amLook at the hatred they show toward Israel. And the sick anti-semitic comments they make toward Lieberman.
Comment by Darien Taylor — August 6, 2006 @ 12:24 am
Darien, easy, buddy, easy.
August 6th, 2006 at 12:29 amThe voices in your head will go away when you start reading and educating yourself.
Darien, bubbie, ya got anything else, deary?
August 6th, 2006 at 12:30 amnote from cos cob to darien:
look, i am all for lieberman, but, you are not going to make me stay on the blogs from now until tuesday are you? god, i hope not… can’t we just do this blog and one other? you pick… one more okay?
August 6th, 2006 at 12:30 amI wait you there, Zoo…
August 6th, 2006 at 12:30 amRead about the newest cell phone sex video scandal (malaysia tammy)
August 6th, 2006 at 12:31 amhttp://xialanxue.blogspot.com/2006/08/more-on-malaysian-tammy-nyp.html
z, juan, and anyone but those two from connecticut—i have to get some air and will not be returning to this particular sewer thread tonight… see you anywhere else.
peace,
band no band
August 6th, 2006 at 12:33 amGoodnight, no non no no more of this
Really can’t blame you…
August 6th, 2006 at 12:35 amCan I use Mason’s argument to dismiss my critics?
August 6th, 2006 at 12:38 amGoodnight, no…
August 6th, 2006 at 12:39 amDarien Taylor can only vary his ‘talking point’ slightly, yet repeatedly. Darien Taylor is not capable of discussing his assertions. Darien Taylor IS really BORING! Darien Taylor ‘hates’ Liberals who don’t support Joe Lieberman. Darien Taylor is afraid that Liberals will retake the Senate in 2006. Darien Taylor should be afraid, no Joe Lieberman to vote for GWB, means 1 less vote for the Republicans. Darien Taylor should call for the ‘WAAAAAAAmbulance’ now, and beat the rush.
August 6th, 2006 at 12:48 amUmm. Who cares?
August 6th, 2006 at 1:00 amCan I use Mason’s argument to dismiss my critics?
Comment by Gregor Samsa
I think you should try it. Let us know how it goes.
August 6th, 2006 at 1:29 amThey were childish, but effective at showing your self admitted bigotry of republicans.
And yet it is the liberals who are attacking Lieberman because he is jewish.
August 6th, 2006 at 1:29 amThose of us who want Lieberman out of the Senate, dislike him because he is a Bush ass kisser, and apologist for the Iraq fiasco occupation! His being Jewish has nothing to do with it!
August 6th, 2006 at 1:31 ami called up that number and they said that, yes, russ feingold really IS jewish
Liberals will go after him just as they went after Lieberman. Liberals do not like Jews. They will never nominate somebody like Feingold for president. They will go with a protestent like Hillary Clinton.
August 6th, 2006 at 1:32 amDarien Taylor can only vary his ‘talking point’ slightly, yet repeatedly.
I’m not a he, but a she. Genius. The “talking point” is dead on. Liberals don’t like Lieberman because he is jewish and because he is a strong supporter of Israel. The attacks on him and the support for Lamont are veiled in anti-semitism.
August 6th, 2006 at 1:35 amThose of us who want Lieberman out of the Senate, dislike him because he is a Bush ass kisser, and apologist for the Iraq fiasco occupation! His being Jewish has nothing to do with it!
That’s not true. You don’t want Kerry out of the senate. You don’t want Hillary out of the senate. You don’t want evan byah out of the senate. Only Liberman, because he is Jewish. He has the exact same voting record as Hillary Clinton, and yet liberals do not support the liberal that is running against her this year. It is because Hillary is not jewish. If she were, the liberals would be going after her just like they are going after Lieberman. Liberals support Hezbollah and are against Lieberman.
August 6th, 2006 at 1:38 amLOL Darien I do NOT support Hillary Clinton > she is another warmonger like Joe Lieberman!
August 6th, 2006 at 1:42 amDarien Taylor:
Blah, blah, blah, blah, liberals, blah, blah, blah, jews, blah, blah, blah, anti-semitism, blah, blah, blah, blah, I’m a girl, blah, blah, blah, the jews, blah, blah, blah, blah, broken record, blah, blah, blah, Clinton, blah, blah, blah…
August 6th, 2006 at 1:42 amLOL Darien I do NOT support Hillary Clinton
You will when election time comes around. Mark my words, liberals will not nominate Fiengold, because he is jewish. When push comes to shove, liberals show their anti-semitism when they vote. That’s why they are so much against Joe Lieberman. They want to punish him for his ethnicity.
August 6th, 2006 at 1:43 amZooey, you must have a room temperature IQ.
August 6th, 2006 at 1:44 amThey want to punish him for his ethnicity.
Comment by Darien Taylor
*snort* Darien’s a parody.
August 6th, 2006 at 1:45 amDarien,
I do, it’s approximately 150 degrees in here.
August 6th, 2006 at 1:46 amThey want to punish him for his ethnicity.
Comment by Darien Taylor — August 6, 2006 @ 1:43 am
Judaism is an ethnicity?
I was under the disticnt impression it was a religion.
August 6th, 2006 at 1:49 amGregor,
Only anti-semites in disguise think Judaism is an ethnicity.
August 6th, 2006 at 1:50 amZooey, you must be burning in hell then.
August 6th, 2006 at 1:51 amJudaism is an ethnicity?
I was under the disticnt impression it was a religion.
Being Jewish (the reason liberals are against Lieberman) is also an ethnicity.
August 6th, 2006 at 1:52 amDarien,
It’s just a red state, you understand.
August 6th, 2006 at 1:52 amOnly anti-semites in disguise think Judaism is an ethnicity.
The liberals don’t disguise their anti-semitism, though. They are open about it in their hatred of Lieberman.
August 6th, 2006 at 1:53 amDarien are you Jewish/Israeli? Or are you just a paid stooge for Lieberman on TP? We dislike Joe because he is “Trojan-Horse” Republican who masquerades as a Democrat and he loves the Dubya Dunce Decider Despot Dictator > enough said!
August 6th, 2006 at 1:53 amThey are open about it in their hatred of Lieberman.
Liberals don’t hate, only anti-semites like Darien hate.
August 6th, 2006 at 1:55 amJay,
Darien is a robot. A girl robot.
August 6th, 2006 at 1:56 amZooey, if you are in a red state you must be in hell. Still, don’t try to change the subject. My IQ is 151, which is higher than yours. Liberals have gotten away with being anti-semitic for some time now. I’m calling them on it. They hate Israel. They hate Lieberman. They don’t support him because he’s Jewish.
August 6th, 2006 at 1:57 amWait, if Democrats are supposedly anti-semite, how did Lieberman manage to get in the 2000 ticket as the VP candidate?
Was it done in a supreme Machiavellian move to disguise the Democrats’ anti-semitism?
What if Gore/Lieberman had won, then? Or, in another supreme Machiavelian move, the Democrats knew he wasn’t going to win and so put him in the ticket to distract?
Or is it that Democrats have gone from accepting a Jewish candidate to being rabidly anti-semites in only 6 years?
Head… about… to… explode…
August 6th, 2006 at 1:57 amDarien are you Jewish/Israeli?
Yes, I am Jewish. Why would you care though?
August 6th, 2006 at 1:58 amLiberals don’t hate, only anti-semites like Darien hate.
I love, so I am not an anti-semite. But the liberals who oppose Lieberman are anti-semities, just like Mel Gibson.
August 6th, 2006 at 1:59 amZooey > Darien is female? Lol she must be a friend of Ann Coulter!
August 6th, 2006 at 1:59 amMy IQ is 151
No, deary, that’s not your IQ, that’s the proof of the rum you’re drinking.
Anybody else having as much fun as I am?
August 6th, 2006 at 2:00 amMy IQ is 151, which is higher than yours.
Comment by Darien Taylor — August 6, 2006 @ 1:57 am
Translation: Miiine is bigger than yooouuurs.. nah nah nah-nah nah…
Liberals have gotten away with being anti-semitic for some time now.
Translation: I like the sound of my voice.
I’m calling them on it. They hate Israel. They hate Lieberman. They don’t support him because he’s Jewish.
Translation: If you think that the reason why I repeat mysefl ad nauseam because I have nothing meaningful to say, you’d be right…
August 6th, 2006 at 2:00 amDarien is a robot. A girl robot.
No I’m not. Al Gore is arguably a robot, though. He’s pandering right now to the anti-semities who are liberals, and not backing Lieberman.
August 6th, 2006 at 2:00 amMy IQ is 151, which is higher than yours.
Comment by Darien Taylor
Sounds like a massive inferiority complex to me.
August 6th, 2006 at 2:02 amif Democrats are supposedly anti-semite, how did Lieberman manage to get in the 2000 ticket as the VP candidate?
I already answered this. Liberals voted for Nader in 2000, just like they are supporting Lamont this year. Liberals would never back Lieberman.
August 6th, 2006 at 2:03 amI was under the disticnt impression it was a religion.
Being Jewish (the reason liberals are against Lieberman) is also an ethnicity.
Comment by Darien Taylor — August 6, 2006 @ 1:52 am
Being Jewish is not the issue, Liebermann has a more debilitating “Ethnicity”, Arrogantassholeian. Thats the problem right there.
August 6th, 2006 at 2:03 amDarien Taylor reminds me of “Barb/Neil” from a few weeks ago.
August 6th, 2006 at 2:03 amNo, deary, that’s not your IQ, that’s the proof of the rum you’re drinking.
I don’t drink. But I do call liberals on their anti-semitism. And I enjoy it.
August 6th, 2006 at 2:04 amDarien I think you have a massive chip on your shoulder, because Israel is bombing the crap out of Lebanese civilians, so instead of condemning that fascistic aggression, you accuse us of being anti-semitic, which is completely rediculous! Jackie Mason is a Jewish individual that knows right from wrong, unlike Lieberman! We dislike Joe for his snobbish support of Dubya!
August 6th, 2006 at 2:06 amBeing Jewish is not the issue, Liebermann has a more debilitating “Ethnicityâ€, Arrogantassholeian. Thats the problem right there.
Not true. John Kerry is more arrogant than Lieberman. I don’t see liberals going after him. Jay Rockefeller is more arrogant than Lieberman. I don’t see liberals going after him. The major problem liberals have with Lieberman is because he’s jewish and he is a big supporter of Israel. Liberals don’t like it. They want to teach him a lesson. They want to dress him up in black face.
August 6th, 2006 at 2:07 amNice to see the real Jewish people I knew and read about in the bible. I thought they had gone away or changed with all the hate given Mel Gibson. I remember Jewish people one of the most forgiving race and religious people. Not to say others aren’t forgiven but Jewish people were always so kind. I was really surprised at some of the hateful blog comments by Jewish people. Barbara Walters was so hateful with her statements even stating she would never forgive Mel even with his apology. Thank You Jackie Mason and Rabbi Herman Kruistofski for letting the world know Jewish people are still the forgiving kind people we always knew and the others need more faith and prayers. I’m an African American and have had many hurtful words said to me but that’s normal with no out cry of wrong doing like what happen to Mel.
August 6th, 2006 at 2:08 amLiberals voted for Nader in 2000,
Comment by Darien Taylor — August 6, 2006 @ 2:03 am
So, the people who voted for Gore/Lieberman in 2000 are not liberals?
August 6th, 2006 at 2:08 amDon’t mind Darien, she’s just hock me in chinik. Meshugana.
August 6th, 2006 at 2:10 amso instead of condemning that fascistic aggression, you accuse us of being anti-semitic
I did not accuse anybody on this board of being anti-semitic. I would never make it personal. I’m a moderate, and I enjoy being on this board too. Nevertheless, I have to call it where I see it. Liberals are going after Lieberman but sparring other Democrats who have similar records. They are doing so because he is Jewish plain and simple. They see it as a way of punishing Israel for its, as they see it, fascist agression.
August 6th, 2006 at 2:10 amComment by Darien Taylor — August 6, 2006 @ 2:04 am
Boy you’ve swallowed this “poor us” crap hook line and sinker. I despise the Israelies and I’m very comfortable saying it, but I despise them for the same reasons I despise George Bush, or people like yourself.
Ethnicity doesn’t enter into it, I have always despised drooling religious freaks who kill people, or cheer the killing along. I’m funny that way:-)
Israel because of it’s history has monopolized victimhood to such a sickening degree, that it is “politically incorrect” to point out their crimes, because that is considered “anti-semitic”. I do not want to kill Israelies or destroy Israel, and I condem those that do.
However, I reject the idea that Isreal should continue to be handled with kid gloves because of history. I reject the idea that the holocaust belongs to them, it was an atrocity against humans. It belongs to us all, and I have zero hesitation in using it to highlight their monstrous hypocrisy. It is a perverse irony that they use the tragedy of the holocaust, the strong destroying the weak, as cover for their crimes.
They have bascially destroyed Lebanon as an object lesson (which will go unlearned, such lessons always do), literally taken 1000 civilians at random and killed them. If that doesn’t make you a Nazi what does?
Take the bone out of your nose, and try again. I’ve always wanted to say that:-)
August 6th, 2006 at 2:11 amWhat did I tell you? Meshugana.
August 6th, 2006 at 2:11 amSo, the people who voted for Gore/Lieberman in 2000 are not liberals?
In a word, no. Liberals in 2000 voted for Nader. They would never back somebody who is Jewish: Lieberman. They are attacking him again this year. It is horrible anti-semitism.
August 6th, 2006 at 2:13 amTake the bone out of your nose, and try again. I’ve always wanted to say that:-)
Comment by Brian Coughlan
I’m so glad you did, because, damn, somebody had to. :)
In the voice of Cartman:
August 6th, 2006 at 2:13 amScrew you guys, I’m going to bed…
Brian,
I think you give Darien too much credit. Your post is directed to an audience who can muster a vocabulary beyond “liberals are anti-semitic and so they hate Lieberman”. Clearly not Darien.
August 6th, 2006 at 2:14 amMe, too.
Goodnight, all! It’s been SO fun!
August 6th, 2006 at 2:15 amI despise the Israelies and I’m very comfortable saying it
That’s what I’ve been saying all along that liberals thought. Thank you for making my point.
August 6th, 2006 at 2:15 amIf you take a drunkard at his word, your the one who needs a shrink.
What’s funny isMel gets more backlash for apologizing,
August 6th, 2006 at 2:17 amthan if he told all you anal retentative freaks of nature to f-off and die.
I despise the Israelies and I’m very comfortable saying it
That’s what I’ve been saying all along that liberals thought. Thank you for making my point.
Comment by Darien Taylor — August 6, 2006 @ 2:15 am
Ah …. I see … whatever.
August 6th, 2006 at 2:19 amThat’s what I’ve been saying all along that liberals thought.
Comment by Darien Taylor — August 6, 2006 @ 2:15 am
Not all Israelis are Jewish and not all Jewish are Israeli citizens. Nice try there, Darien.
August 6th, 2006 at 2:20 amAh …. I see … whatever.
Liberals despise Israelis and they despise Lieberman. It’s really a simple concept to grasp. And your words back up that point. But I do appreaciate your honesty.
August 6th, 2006 at 2:21 amNot all Israelis are Jewish and not all Jewish are Israeli citizens. Nice try there, Darien.
And yet Brian Coughlan was talking about Jewish ones. That is very clear when he referred to the Holocaust.
August 6th, 2006 at 2:23 amDarien > I was against Lieberman before the Israeli attack on Lebanese civilians! Joe’s support for the Iraq occupation goes beyond disgusting! I dislike Joe for his gross hypocrisy!
August 6th, 2006 at 2:23 amI was against Lieberman before the Israeli attack on Lebanese civilians! Joe’s support for the Iraq occupation goes beyond disgusting! I dislike Joe for his gross hypocrisy!
I absoulety refuse to personally attack anybody on this board, so I won’t call you an anti-semite. Nevertheless, my point still stands about liberals despising Lieberman and despising his support for Israel. Liberals hate that he stands with Israel. They don’t like it. They think Isreal is fascist. And that Hezbollah are innocent and sweet.
August 6th, 2006 at 2:26 amI absoulety refuse to personally attack anybody on this board, so I won’t call you an anti-semite.
Comment by Darien Taylor — August 6, 2006 @ 2:26 am
Hogwash. You can called Brian an anti-semite in a back-handed way.
August 6th, 2006 at 2:28 amDarien are you one of those young college Republicans that Joe Lieberman hired to blog on progressive anti-Lieberman sites like TP?
August 6th, 2006 at 2:29 amYou can called Brian an anti-semite in a back-handed way.
Absoultly not! I posted his words and they happened to agree with the point I was making.
August 6th, 2006 at 2:29 amThey think Isreal is fascist. And that Hezbollah are innocent and sweet.
Comment by Darien Taylor — August 6, 2006 @ 2:26 am
Find a comment in this blog where anyone calls Hezbollah “innocent and sweet” and your accusation might carry some weight.
Come back when you find it. We will talk then.
August 6th, 2006 at 2:30 amDarien are you one of those young college Republicans that Joe Lieberman hired to blog on progressive anti-Lieberman sites like TP?
No, I’m an old moderate Democrat who calls them like I see them. What the liberals are doing to Lieberman because he happens to be Jewish is disgusting to me.
August 6th, 2006 at 2:31 amI posted his words and they happened to agree with the point I was making.
Comment by Darien Taylor — August 6, 2006 @ 2:29 am
Which is exactly a backhanded way of saying “you are an anti-semite”.
Don’t insult my intelligence.
August 6th, 2006 at 2:31 amFind a comment in this blog where anyone calls Hezbollah “innocent and sweet†and your accusation might carry some weight.
Come back when you find it. We will talk then.
Again, I was not making this personal with respect to anybody on this board.
August 6th, 2006 at 2:32 amI was not making this personal with respect to anybody on this board.
Comment by Darien Taylor — August 6, 2006 @ 2:32 am
Then you admit your posts are a waste of time, since they are not aimed at anyone in this blog, or about the beliefs of anyone here.
August 6th, 2006 at 2:33 amWhich is exactly a backhanded way of saying “you are an anti-semiteâ€.
I didn’t say that. I appreaciate that Brian validated my point, but I’m not making this personal.
August 6th, 2006 at 2:33 amI absoulety refuse to personally attack anybody on this board,
Comment by Darien Taylor — August 6, 2006 @ 2:26 am
I’m off then. For my part, I have no hesitation in the occasional verbal savaging if justly deserved. So should you interpret my no longer responding to your inane drivel as a victory, let me straighten you out.
I don’t mind the occasional back and forth, but simply reposting the same idiotic drool is not a discusson, it’s repetition, and very, very boring. I almost makes me miss Sexion, and you practically have me pining for Exley.
So …. Buh Bye.
August 6th, 2006 at 2:34 amLol Darien not even moderate Democrats defend GOP Joe!
August 6th, 2006 at 2:35 amThen you admit your posts are a waste of time, since they are not aimed at anyone in this blog, or about the beliefs of anyone here.
No my posts are not a waste of time. I bet other moderates like me see it the same way, that liberals are punishing Lieberman because of his support of Isreal and the fact that he happens to be jewish. I just don’t believe in making arguments personal. Is that such a bad thing?
August 6th, 2006 at 2:36 amWhat a hack.
-The Ghost of Milton Berle
August 6th, 2006 at 2:37 amI appreaciate that Brian validated my point, but I’m not making this personal.
Comment by Darien Taylor — August 6, 2006 @ 2:33 am
If I posit “Anyone by the last name of Taylor is a racist and hates African-Americans”
And you say “I dislike people living in black ghettos”
And I reply “You just validated my point”
I am calling you a racist, don’t play dense with me.
August 6th, 2006 at 2:37 amI have no hesitation in the occasional verbal savaging if justly deserved.
I don’t believe in it. I believe in civil discussions without making it personal. But if you wanted to savage the vicious anti-semitic liberals who are going after Lieberman, I would welcome it.
August 6th, 2006 at 2:39 amLol Darien not even moderate Democrats defend GOP Joe!
Not true. I voted for him in 2000.
August 6th, 2006 at 2:40 amI am calling you a racist
That’s your style, not mine. I would never call anybody on this board a name like that. However, I do believe in standing up against anti-semitism. And liberals would not be going after Lieberman if he was not Jewish.
August 6th, 2006 at 2:41 amI just don’t believe in making arguments personal.
Comment by Darien Taylor — August 6, 2006 @ 2:36 am
You could have fooled me.
You have been making this argument personal since the beginning. And made it even more when you called Brian C. an anti-semite.
I have to say I agree with Brian -your repetitious drivel is inane. I miss Mighty Aphrodite already.
I leave you to talk to yourself. Have a nice time hunting down those anti-semites hiding under your bed.
August 6th, 2006 at 2:42 amThe only one making this discussion personal is you. Good bye then, if you are leaving. Liberals should not be treating Lieberman like this. It is horrible the way their anti-semitism is rearing its ugly head. They should be ashamed of themselves.
August 6th, 2006 at 2:45 amAttacking liberals of anti-semitism, when David Duke and the rest of the religious right runs the republican party.
David Duke is an anti-semite, and so are the liberals who are attacking Lieberman.
August 6th, 2006 at 2:58 amMy bad for pointing out the obvious that republicans are the party of anti-semitism.
They might be. But on this issue it is the liberals who are showing their anti-semitism when going after and attacking Lieberman. It is really shameful.
Liberals also want to put Lieberman in black face.
August 6th, 2006 at 3:00 amIf they were capable of original thought, they’d be liberals.
I happen to be a moderate Democrat. Tell me though, what is original thought about the liberals who are spewing anti-semitic comments about Liebmerman?
August 6th, 2006 at 3:02 amDavid Duke is a republican.
And liberals have sold out to him with their anti-semitic behavior toward Lieberman. The neo-Nazi Republicans and the liberals are all the same when it comes to hating jews.
August 6th, 2006 at 3:05 amTell me what liberals are spewing anti-semitic comments about Lieberman?
Ned Lamont. Kos.
August 6th, 2006 at 3:06 amGregor Samsa, your comments are uncivil.
August 6th, 2006 at 3:08 amIf liberals hate jews so much, why did we nominate one as our VP, and why do we love Russ Feingold so much?
Liberals voted for Nader in 2000, not Lieberman. Your love for Feingold will soon fade when it comes time to actually vote. Liberals will nominate Hillary Clinton, not Feingold, because she is not Jewish. Liberals are anti-semitic and they show it with their attacks on Lieberman. Liberals will never support a jew at the top of any party’s presidential ticket.
August 6th, 2006 at 3:13 amSays the man who accuses others of anti-semitism without evidence.
The evidence is the daily rants of anti-semitic garbage directed at Lieberman from liberals.
You and Gregor are making this discussion personal and uncivil.
August 6th, 2006 at 3:14 amThen you should have no problems posting reliable links to specific quotes that are anti-semitic?
Lamont attacks him every day.
August 6th, 2006 at 3:17 amDarien Taylor,
August 6th, 2006 at 3:21 amI missed about two questions in IQ tests that I took over all of the my years in the system. Worst case was when my family moved to Dallas (1951) and they cycled me through the tests from 12 years old to 17 (I was 10 at the time.). In October 1957 (remember Sputnik?), they yanked me from public school and put me in an advanced science program at SMU. Net was: I earned 47 college credits before I graduated from high school.
Now, back to the subject – you are an utter fool.
Really? Then who voted for Lieberman?
After all, he/Gore received more votes than Bush.
Moderates like me. Yes, Gore should be president right now if it weren’t for Bush’s friends on the Supreme Court.
Really, because I’m a liberal, and I would readily vote for Feingold before I would vote for Hillary.
When push comes to shove, you will vote for Hillary for president.
Sorry, but you’re just another republican abortion clinic bombing religious extremist trying to defend kissy joe.
Not true. I’m pro-choice on abortion. And I’m a Democrat. I just stand up against anti-semitism, and I see it on the daily attacks from liberals on Lieberman.
August 6th, 2006 at 3:22 amAn attack isn’t antisemitic, it’s politics.
Not true. It’s not just mere politics when liberals attack Lieberman. It is rooted in anti-semitism.
August 6th, 2006 at 3:23 amWho do you think elected Joe before – liberals.
Moderates and Republicans elected Joe before, not liberals. Liberals don’t like Jews. They don’t like Israel.
August 6th, 2006 at 3:26 amRepublicans and phony conservative Democrats voted for Lieberman > he gets no support from progressives because Joe is a fraud!
August 6th, 2006 at 3:29 amSo you’re saying that less than 3% of the population is liberal?
That’s right, the people who voted for Nader were liberal.
If it was Hillary versus some right wing extremist like you, you bet.
So much for your love for Feingold. You won’t write him in. You would drop the man in a second because he’s jewish. Liberals would not support a jew at the top of any presidential ticket. And I’m not a right wing extrmist. I’m a moderate.
You’re not a liberal, if you are a democrat.
Are you sure you’re the one who’s not right wing? You sound like Pat Buchanan.
August 6th, 2006 at 3:31 amAfter Tuesday Joe Lieberman will be history, after Ned Lamont whips him badly > lol.
August 6th, 2006 at 3:32 amReally? Then who did the liberals vote for, the republican candidate?
The green party candidate, like Ralph Nader.
August 6th, 2006 at 3:33 amRepublicans and phony conservative Democrats voted for Lieberman > he gets no support from progressives because Joe is a fraud!
That’s right. Moderates and Republicans voted for Lieberman in the past, not liberals. Bttruthful is way off base here.
August 6th, 2006 at 3:35 amYes post 175 > Joe after 2000 sold out to the Bush Regime, but he did fool some liberals up till that year!
August 6th, 2006 at 3:35 amLike I said
You’re just repeating stuff over and over like a parrot. Get some new talking points.
August 6th, 2006 at 3:36 amDarien > NOT moderates > conservatives only vote for Joe! Up till 2000 some liberals thought he was a Democrat, but found out after 2000 that Joe is a Republican!
August 6th, 2006 at 3:38 amIf you want to hear someone that sounds like Pat, just read your own posts back.
Actually, liberals are big supporters of Pat Buchanan now. They like and repeat his anti-semitic garbage against Lieberman and his support of Israel.
August 6th, 2006 at 3:39 amDarien Taylor,
August 6th, 2006 at 3:40 amThe state of Israel was founded during the Truman administration. The six day war occurred during LBJ’s administration. Gee, wonder how those Conservative administrations promoted those events!
That makes no sense, Lieberman had to get through the primaries.
That’s right. Phony conservative Democrats voted for him. And they put him through. Conservative Democrats and Republicans elected Lieberman all these years, not liberals (progressives). Liberals don’t like Jews, especially ones that support Israel so strongly.
August 6th, 2006 at 3:41 amDarien > NOT moderates > conservatives only vote for Joe!
Well, actually I did vote for Joe in 2000, and I’m right down the middle politically.
August 6th, 2006 at 3:42 am#189, I was reading Kos the other day and a liberal there said how much they agreed with Buchanan’s views about how we should not go to war to defend Israel. Buchanan is repeated by the liberals. Are you sure you don’t read his collums?
August 6th, 2006 at 3:44 amDarien Taylor,
August 6th, 2006 at 3:45 amJoe is dead meat.
You make no sense, but that’s obvious to everyone here but you.
Well, except for Jay Randall, who just agreed with me that it was conservative dems and Repubs that elected Lieberman, not liberals.
Who’s everyone here? Do you have a mouse in your pocket or something?
August 6th, 2006 at 3:47 amDarien Taylor,
Joe is dead meat.
Probably so. But liberals should do it the honorable way, not be smearing the man with their hateful and anti-semitic garbage.
August 6th, 2006 at 3:49 amThis means you’re right leaning, since most of american politics is.
And yet I voted for Clinton/Gore, Gore/Lieberman and Kerry/Edwards.
The one who is right leaning here is you, who probably reads Pat Buchancan’s stuff.
Liberals certainly read Pat Buchanan, for they sound like anti-seminites with their attacks on Israel and Lieberman.
August 6th, 2006 at 3:51 amYou post on this blog, it doesn’t mean you reflect liberal sentiment.
When they say they are a liberal it certainly does.
I have the feeling that you’re not very smart.
August 6th, 2006 at 3:52 am# 197- Darien Taylor,
August 6th, 2006 at 3:53 amOK – He could not win even if he were the Pope.
I’ve never heard any liberal politician say anything anti-semitic about Joe.
That’s because you ignore it, or perhaps agree with it.
August 6th, 2006 at 3:53 amJoe is losing because he’s a sellout, as are you.
Joe is losing because liberals who don’t like Jews and don’t like Israel and rallying to Lamont and his hateful rhetoric.
You are the sell out. You just admitted that you would vote for Hillary Clinton and kick Feingold to the curb. Just as I predicted you would.
August 6th, 2006 at 3:57 amOK – He could not win even if he were the Pope.
If Lieberman was the Pope, why on earth would he want to be a senator?
August 6th, 2006 at 3:59 amYou are definitely a rightwing extremist anti-semitic buchanan type.
No, that would be you.
I’m a democrat. You are not.
August 6th, 2006 at 4:00 amIsn’t it nice dueling in th night? Pistols at 40 paces would be quicker and neater.
August 6th, 2006 at 4:01 am#210, you still haven’t provided any evidence that you have an IQ above 60.
August 6th, 2006 at 4:02 am#214, I just can’t believe bttruthful has kept it up this long.
August 6th, 2006 at 4:03 amLying, Propagandizing, War Mongering, RightWingNeoConservatives install Nation of Israel; immediately sell weapons to Egypt, Syria, Jordan, Lebanon, Iran, Iraq, Saudi Arabia to promote Arab–Israeli War; lick chops awaiting middle east oil after mutual annihilation.
Lieberman’s Support for War Leaves Him Embattled on Left
HARTFORD, May 18 — “George Bush’s favorite Democrat,” they call him. “Republican Lite,” they sneer.
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/05/19/nyregion/19lieberman.html?ex=1305691200&en=78db6248d8e71c76&ei=5088&partner=rssnyt&emc=rss
#179 Republicans and phony conservative Democrats voted for Lieberman > he gets no support from progressives because Joe is a fraud!
Republicans voted for Lieberman in the past, not liberals.
August 6th, 2006 at 4:04 amComment by Darien Taylor — August 6, 2006 @ 3:35 am
I’m off.Have to be at charity at 8 AM and it’s after four here.
August 6th, 2006 at 4:10 amAs I told you already, Lamont attacks Lieberman everyday. He has yet to back down from his previous anti-semitic remarks. He must still believe in them.
August 6th, 2006 at 4:41 amLamont makes them all the time, everyday.
August 6th, 2006 at 4:43 amRightWing NeoConservative Propagandist redefines self as “Moderate Democrat” in order to villify Liberals having condeming Lieberman’s support of George Bush and the War based on lies in Iraq; makes false claims of so called “Liberal Anti-Semitism”
Lieberman Says He Supports Bush on Iraq
16 September 2002
http://www.hartford-hwp.com/archives/45/205.html
Lieberman Praises Bush, Chides Kerry
Dave Eberhart, NewsMax.com
Friday, Oct. 15, 2004
Democratic Senator Joe Lieberman took the unusual step of praising President Bush while chiding John Kerry during a campaign stop in Florida Wednesday.
http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2004/10/14/141645.shtml
Lieberman’s support for war, Bush may cost him his job
Thu, Jul. 20, 2006
WEST HARTFORD, Conn. – Cheryl Curtiss is a lifelong Democrat who’s always voted for Sen. Joe Lieberman, D-Conn., in his long and celebrated career
“I will never vote for him again,” said Curtiss, a public school administrator from West Hartford. ” The way he supports the war and Bush disgusts me.”
“He’s become too closely tied to the Republicans,” she said. “I voted for him last time because there wasn’t any other choice. This time I have a choice.”
“I’m running against both because I don’t think Senator Lieberman challenges President Bush on the big issues of the day,” Lamont said in an interview. “And I think he sometimes goes out of the way to undermine the Democrats.”
http://www.realcities.com/mld/krwashington/news/nation/15084278.htm
August 6th, 2006 at 7:07 amFailedneoconman, I call it right down the middle. When liberals are wrong (as they are in attacking Lieberman because he’s jewish) I call them on it. When conservatives are wrong, I call them on it. I’m objective, unlike you.
August 6th, 2006 at 7:10 amI still feel pretty fouled by Gibson. After denying any antisemitic character of passion of the christ bumhole stumbles in some officers and calls them jews. I think this is really bitter for an audience that never wanted to care about Gibsons opinion. hes a nice guy and if he got some probs in reasoning oke. I feel like beaten into a trashcan.
August 6th, 2006 at 7:12 amAfter denying any antisemitic character of passion of the christ bumhole stumbles in some officers and calls them jews.
That also sounds like some liberals who are bitter about Lieberman’s support for Israel.
August 6th, 2006 at 7:15 amCyra, you have chosen to go personal rather than rebut the substance of what I’ve had to say. That’s the mark of a poor argument. Liberals are attacking Lieberman because of his support for Israel. Liberals don’t like jews all that much.
August 6th, 2006 at 7:19 amAt post #134 I left, that was a few hours ago. Now we are at #353, and the content of this guys posts have not changed one wit.
To criticize Lieberman is to be an anti-semite. Hmmm … quite absurd of course.
This classic attempt to shut down critical voices is so mechanically delivered that I suspect Darien’s a bot. That would explain the lack of variation in the posts. That an actual human could be relentlessly dense seems hard to credit.
August 6th, 2006 at 7:32 am#353- WHAT substance? You still have not provided any. Since you do not know why Liberals in Connecticut aren’t supporting Lieberman, as they have in the past, let me share one issue they have with him, not that you care at all. You only want to make endless, baseless accusations, directed at Liberals. When Joe Lieberman said that those who disagreed with GWB, did so at their own peril, he gave up his credibility and any objectivity he may have had. Blind loyalty to GWB is what Joe Lieberman is having to answer for on Tuesday. Nothing more, nothing less. Liberals aren’t petty, that is what Republicans are known for.
August 6th, 2006 at 7:38 amRightWing NeoConservative Propagandist Ignores Illegal War in Iraq; trivializes criticisms of Lieberman, self admitted supporter of George Bush and War based on lies in Iraq; makes false claims of so called “Liberal Anti-Semitismâ€
#349 Failedneoconman, I call it right down the middle. When liberals are wrong (as they are in attacking Lieberman because he’s jewish) I call them on it. When conservatives are wrong, I call them on it. I’m objective, unlike you.
Comment by Darien Taylor — August 6, 2006 @ 7:10 am
Big Joe-mentum, in the wrong direction
You might say he’s on the wrong side of history. A poll out today from Quinnipiac University shows incumbent Joe Lieberman in big trouble, with challenger Ned Lamont opening up a whopping lead in Connecticut’s Democratic primary race for U.S. Senate. The race now stands at 54 to 41 percent in favor of Lamont, according to the new survey. “Among Lamont supporters, 65 percent say their vote is mainly against Lieberman,” it shows. “Lieberman’s support for the war in Iraq is the main reason they are voting for the challenger, 44 percent of Lamont voters say, with 50 percent who say the war is one of the reasons.” As Quinnipiac University poll director Douglas Schwartz puts it, “Sen. Lieberman’s campaign bus seems to be stuck in reverse. Despite visits from former President Bill Clinton and other big name Democrats, Lieberman has not been able to stem the tide to Lamont.” Schwartz notes that three months ago Lamont was “virtually unheard of.” Nonetheless, he says, there are five days left in the race, and one should “never count out a veteran” with Lieberman’s experience. A gap of 13 points makes it pretty tough to count it any other way.
http://www.salon.com/politics/war_room/
Lieberman’s Eroding Base
Many Democratic Faithful Support a Political Newcomer Rather Than the Senator Who Has Not Toed Party Line
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/07/29/AR2006072900667.html
August 6th, 2006 at 7:39 amRightWing NeoConservative Propagandist Ignores Illegal War in Iraq; trivializes criticisms of Lieberman, self admitted supporter of George Bush and War based on lies in Iraq; makes false claims of so called “Liberal Anti-Semitismâ€
August 6th, 2006 at 7:41 amI thought the whole point of this was to point out that The Passion of The Christ is a reflection of Mel Gibson’s anti-Semitic feelings about Jews. It pretty much confirms that the movie was as labeled by the Jewish community – a smear against them.
After all, people don’t become liars when drunk, they actually lose inhibitions and become brutally honest. He might have apologized, but Mel has most definitely let that cat out of the bag. He hates Jews. Not a very positive endorsement of his film.
August 6th, 2006 at 8:06 amFlim Flam NeoCons attempt to shift focus away from Gibson/Lieberman toward Liberals
#349 Failedneoconman, I call it right down the middle. When liberals are wrong (as they are in attacking Lieberman because he’s jewish) I call them on it. When conservatives are wrong, I call them on it. I’m objective, unlike you.
Comment by Darien Taylor — August 6, 2006 @ 7:10 am
#31 Religious Right fear Gibson’s “Passion of the Christ†will lose its effectiveness as Anti-Jew, Christian Fundamentalist training video;defends Gibson’s Anti-Semitic Tirade
#358 I thought the whole point of this was to point out that The Passion of The Christ is a reflection of Mel Gibson’s anti-Semitic feelings about Jews. It pretty much confirms that the movie was as labeled by the Jewish community – a smear against them.
After all, people don’t become liars when drunk, they actually lose inhibitions and become brutally honest. He might have apologized, but Mel has most definitely let that cat out of the bag. He hates Jews. Not a very positive endorsement of his film.
Comment by unbelievable — August 6, 2006 @ 8:06 am
Flim Flam NeoCons attempt to shift focus away from Gibson/Lieberman toward Liberals
August 6th, 2006 at 8:25 amMY bet is that Darien is a program.
August 6th, 2006 at 8:34 amI think FoxNews, O’Reilly, etc. are just devastated by this.
This is a setback for their hopes to make Passion of Christ required high school viewing.
August 6th, 2006 at 8:49 amAfter Cheney had a drink at lunch and shot a man in the face, FoxNews and P.R. firms held private focus groups on how to deal with media frenzy resulting from public embarrassment of their icons.
The Mel Gibson response (”they’re getting a sick sadistic thrill”) is one of the main outcomes of those focus groups.
August 6th, 2006 at 8:56 amAfter Cheney had a drink at lunch and shot a man in the face, FoxNews and P.R. firms held private focus groups on how to deal with media frenzy resulting from public embarrassment of their icons.
The Mel Gibson response (â€they’re getting a sick sadistic thrillâ€) is one of the main outcomes of those focus groups.
Comment by Mike D — August 6, 2006 @ 8:56 am
So this thread is actually back on topic. Has that self aggrandizing idiot “I’m so terribly civil” gone?
In part, I feel sorry for poor old Mel too. What he said was out of order, but hardly KKK material. Incredible the level of ho-ha and attention on a drunken comment, given that real people are being killed in job lots in Iraq and Lebanon.
August 6th, 2006 at 9:11 amNote: We are willing to tolerate a lot in these comment section. But “flame wars” are not useful for anyone. Variations of “You are a liar! No, you are a liar!” for more than 100 comments just prevent the comment section from being useful for people who have thoughtful additions. People who engaged in flame wars repeatidly will not be permitted to comment. This is necessary to support the vast majority of commenters who want to engage in a reasonable discussion.
August 6th, 2006 at 9:20 amJust a quick weigh in here……Mel Gibson spouted off while drunk. O.K. I spout off every day while sober…..My spouting has been the Israel state is wrong and has caused over 700 deaths of innocent Lebonon people over the kidnapping of 2 soldiers….I am against these wars, totaly. It is my belief that bull shit bush is behind most of the wars and hatred going on right now. I am sick our money and bombs are supporting these genocides in Iraq and Lebanon…What Mel say’s or does not say is no skin off my nose…Free speech….It would appear he was right, drunk or sober considering the present war…….Are Israel people worth more than Lebanon people..Excuse me, all life is precious, the jews are no more the chosen than my neighbor…All life means all life…
Am I anti jew, I wasen’t ,but maybe now after all this madness they have been allowed to continue I very well may be……As to Liebermen……I voted for him and Gore. Being jewish has nothing to do with my disrespect for him. I don’t like his voting record and joining the reich winged waramongers…..Period….He’s in the same pool with other suposed Dem’s that have become rep lite……As much as I cared for the Clinton’s in the past I would not vote for Hillery for the same reasons…Same with Cantwell in my state…I’m not pleased with their records of voting and backing the bush waramongers…. Blessings all…Tree hugging time…
August 6th, 2006 at 9:46 amGood morning all – dang with all that is going on in the world we are worried about poor ole Mel’s career? You would think there were not any wars, violations of civil liberties, torture, money looted from our treasury, and an inept government in the good old U of A, just to mention a few of the horrors being perpetrated on us by this administration.
Call it what you want, but some guy went out, got drunk, got busted and said a bunch of crap he may have, or may not have meant. Who cares. This is not news. This is a diversion. The right wing will do anything to get progressives off message.
I am going to run a few miles. Maybe when I get back there will be some real discourse. Have fun hugging the trees Sharon. I wish I could but they are all dead and dying down here in Texas.
August 6th, 2006 at 10:05 am#244 Note: We are willing to tolerate a lot in these comment section. But “flame wars†are not useful for anyone. Variations of “You are a liar! No, you are a liar!†for more than 100 comments just prevent the comment section from being useful for people who have thoughtful additions. People who engaged in flame wars repeatidly will not be permitted to comment. This is necessary to support the vast majority of commenters who want to engage in a reasonable discussion.
Comment by Judd — August 6, 2006 @ 9:20 am
Judd, I’m all for free speech but we know what certain individuals have in mind and that is to totally undermine this web site. Because of how easy it is to access this site, its quite easy for someone to spam/flood/flame this board with a variety of nicknames. I suggest 2 possible solutions. Either site ban the repeat offender, which btw, isn’t that difficult to get around or modify this site to require a registered/password logon. I might even go so far as to require approval before people are allowed to post. Talk Radio Programs screen their callers, why not Think Progress? Food for thought….
August 6th, 2006 at 10:07 amDear Jules, I am so sorry, I did not know that…Are you planting any new trees.? Is there a reason for this.? Pollution, water shortage ,what ever.? I hope this reverses. Without trees there will be no air and an entire loss of our world…..I send blessings and a hope of recovery….
August 6th, 2006 at 10:20 amI might even go so far as to require approval before people are allowed to post. Talk Radio Programs screen their callers, why not Think Progress? Food for thought….
Comment by Site Ban — August 6, 2006 @ 10:07 am
You can ban people based on the IP address they are posting from, so even if they switch name they still be banned. I would recommend that, with the ban lasting a day. This will inconvenience the majority of trolls, allow those of us who step out of line to get a light slap without permanent “banishment”, and still allow relativley trouble free posting.
August 6th, 2006 at 10:25 amMy dear old dad, who lived to age 93, and who was a German Jew, always taught me that A DRUNKEN MANS ACTIONS WERE A SOBER MANS THOUGHTS.
I believe it to this day.
August 6th, 2006 at 10:32 amMy dear old dad, who lived to age 93, and who was a German Jew, always taught me that A DRUNKEN MANS ACTIONS WERE A SOBER MANS THOUGHTS.
Comment by Rebel With A Cause — August 6, 2006 @ 10:32 am
That was my thought as well.
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The relevence of Gibson’s comments is that he has a major influence on people across the globe (come on, we know many people worship celebrities in cult-like fashion) with his movies. If the man is pushing a rightwing hate agenda, he too should be called on it. I think his anti-semitism is no different than Rush Limp-baugh’s racism, or Ann Coulters general hate for anything alive. It’s no different and it needs to be called out and labeled for what it it – hate mongering.
August 6th, 2006 at 11:23 amSharon – my guess is the elusive global warming. We are feet, many feet, short of water here. Very strict water bans even though many are cheating. I guess those reich wingers would rather have green grass than drinking water…who knew.
Emperor – I am a “leftie” and I do not give a moments thoughts to what Gibson said. I care more that Israel is killing innocent civillians just because cowards choose to hide amongst them. I care that the US has thrown a nation into civil war and assisted in the killing of innocent civilians. And yes, I even find it reprehensible that there are nations that want to obliterate other nations. However, before you begin pointing fingers – look at your own party. They want to drop nuclear bombs on countries – if this would not obliterate a race of people I am unsure what will.
And Rebel – I totally do not believe that. In my ill spent youth I had imbibed a few and said many a thing which I know I did not believe. Were they to the level of the rantings of good ole Mel….no…but they were not my “true” feelings.
August 6th, 2006 at 11:28 amEmperor – what makes you any better this Iranian president? Not everyone in Iran agrees with this presdient. They are called innocents. But I guess since they are not jewish they do not mattere to you. You also glossed over the fact that I called Hezbollah cowards. As Benjamin Franklin said…I have never seen a good war or a bad peace. Killing is wrong when we do it, when arabs do it, and when jews do it.
August 6th, 2006 at 11:55 amI see this is “Internet Access Day” for the psychotic wing at the state mental institutions… I’m sure it’s just a matter of time before Darth Vader and Luke Skywalker show up as well…
August 6th, 2006 at 11:56 am†care more that Israel is killing innocent civillians just because cowards choose to hide amongst them.â€
Whay about Hizbollah firing into Israeli cities, I guess in the Left’s view Muslims are worth more than Jews?
Comment by Emperor Palpatine — August 6, 2006 @ 11:50 am
No. However here is a shocking concept. Humans everywhere are of equal value, war acheives nothing and criticisim is not the same thing as “anti-american” or “anti-semetic” or “anti-european”.
To call for the nuclear incineration of thousands of people …. well. Maybe one day you’ll realise how morally barren and repugnant such a comment is:-( Maybe.
August 6th, 2006 at 11:58 amI have just one thing to say – I get my posts deleted because I make reference to 9/11. Yet, you let this asshat Darien spew his crap post after post. WTF?
August 6th, 2006 at 12:00 pmBTW – I would agree that I AM ANTI-ZIONIST – in any FORM!
August 6th, 2006 at 12:04 pmHey Jackie, two words…
Caddyshack 2
Here’s two more:
David Dinkins
Both proved to be your downfall from your 15 minutes, kid.
Now you want another 15 minutes?
They’re already up.
August 6th, 2006 at 12:33 pm“war acheives nothing â€
Thank God the Left of today wasn’t around back in FDR and Truman’s day! The Reich would be in control of Europe and a threat to the world! The only Jews alive would be here in America! Hitler probaly wishes from hell that he’sd be around today. With the Leftist control of the media we would,ve lost WW2 if it was fought now!
Ah yes the old “you are Chamberlain and I’m Churchill and they are Hitler” meme.
Roughly 50 million people died in WWII, and it “resolved†the problem. The solution you crave for the middle east will similarly result in millions if not tens of millions of deaths. So I reject it.
The US and EU have the bulk of the wealth and the weapons, so we can afford to take some minor risks for peace. But no, you are so terror stricken and hate drive you’d rather fry as many as it takes of the “enemy” for them to “get the message”. Is that it? Just so I’m clear.
August 6th, 2006 at 12:40 pmand what exactly is it I fear? It is certainly not Islamic “terrists”, it is simple IGNORANCE, especially WILLFILL ignorance with ARROGANCE that I fear.
August 6th, 2006 at 12:47 pmLike I said…….
August 6th, 2006 at 12:50 pmand SCREW RELIGION! Are we going to really let these extremist, puritanical, fundamental religious freaks destroy humanity? Because, folks, that is a BIG part of what’s wrong…that these fundamental freaks have bastardized and twisted their “holy books” to read: DEATH AND DESTRUCTION.
August 6th, 2006 at 12:54 pmNo. we should use our full resources to crush these clowns once and for all.
Comment by Emperor Palpatine — August 6, 2006 @ 12:45 pm
ok …. and the millions of innocents that get fried on your way to this laubable final solution? Just so much human garbage?
August 6th, 2006 at 1:00 pmdoes this sound familiar?
A system of government marked by centralization of authority under a dictator, stringent socioeconomic controls, suppression of the opposition through terror and censorship, and typically a policy of belligerent nationalism and racism.
August 6th, 2006 at 1:00 pm# 258. Unbelievable dude:
Eat me.
August 6th, 2006 at 1:00 pmJackie Mason?? WTF is that guy doing on TV talking about this? He has no credibility at all lol. Why? Two words….Caddyshack Two.
August 6th, 2006 at 1:05 pmfascist
adj : relating to or characteristic of fascism; “fascist propaganda” [syn: fascistic] n : an adherent of fascism or other right-wing authoritarian views
August 6th, 2006 at 1:09 pmDarth Vader,
One – I’m not a dude. And two – I don’t eat animals or things I can’t identify. I’m grouping you with the latter…
August 6th, 2006 at 1:10 pmau·thor·i·tar·i·an ( P ) Pronunciation Key (-thôr-târ-n, -thr-, ô-thôr-, ô-thr-)
August 6th, 2006 at 1:10 pmadj.
Characterized by or favoring absolute obedience to authority, as against individual freedom: an authoritarian regime.
Of, relating to, or expecting unquestioning obedience.
272, 275, 277
This is to clarify who is really these definitions, and it is certainly not ME.
August 6th, 2006 at 1:12 pmyou do not know why Liberals in Connecticut aren’t supporting Lieberman
They’re not supporting him because he’s jewish.
August 6th, 2006 at 1:12 pmthese fundamental freaks have bastardized and twisted their “holy books†to read: DEATH AND DESTRUCTION.
Comment by madashell — August 6, 2006 @ 12:54 pm
I’ve read the Bible. There’s very little ‘holy’ about it. And the stuff that is is the stuff that these ‘good’ Christians ignore the most – the stuff about feeding the poor, turning the other cheek and loving your neighbors.
August 6th, 2006 at 1:13 pm#269 – Emperor Palpatine,
August 6th, 2006 at 1:16 pmThose Islamists are pretty clever – killing 30 million of a population of 26 million involves a real effort. Did they bring in extras?
Emperor Sh*thead: I HAVE ALSO READ THE KORAN – AND YOU CAN’T TAKE PASSAGES OUT OF CONTEXT – funny how the Muslims I know do NOT ADHERE TO BEING FUNDAMENTALISTS.
The same thing with the Bible -
August 6th, 2006 at 1:16 pmand this from a Jew – DARIEN
Pulling the Plug on Israel
No Peace Without Justice, No Justice Without Truth
By David Himmelstein
August 6th, 2006 at 1:21 pm08/02/06 “Counterpunch” — – Whether or not it has reached critical mass, there exists a heterogeneous agglomeration of Jewish people around the world– e.g., moi–for whom the state of Israel has come to represent an 800-pound albatross that needs to be pried from our necks before it drags us over a cliff. A sense of urgency is propelled by the U.S.-sanctioned bloodletting in Lebanon and Gaza (which now seems to have been planned in advance) and the evident flimsiness of its official justification. With Israeli adventurism on the march, there are well founded fears concerning the general threat that country poses to the peace of the world
ok …. and the millions of innocents that get fried on your way to this laubable final solution? Just so much human garbage?
Comment by Brian Coughlan — August 6, 2006 @ 1:00 pm
Ignoring this are we?
August 6th, 2006 at 1:22 pmComment by Emperor Palpatine — August 6, 2006 @ 1:22 pm
Hey Emperor, what about the innocents?
August 6th, 2006 at 1:24 pm#286, nevetheless, the liberals do not support Lieberman because he is jewish. The nonstop anti-semitic attacks on him are disgusting.
August 6th, 2006 at 1:26 pm# 282. Unbelievable chick:
So you admit the Word is a little bit’ holy ‘.
August 6th, 2006 at 1:28 pmKind of reminds me what a great man once said about a mustard seed.
They’re not supporting him because he’s jewish.
Comment by Darien Taylor — August 6, 2006 @ 1:12 pm
Ouch! That must’ve really hurt when you fell and hit your head so hard to make you say things like that. I hope you are on your way to a hospital. That’s a very nasty blow you took.
August 6th, 2006 at 1:29 pmSo I say to you Allah(Lucifer) can go screw itself. One day the western world will get sick of your ilk and we’ll wipe you towel headed jerks off the map!
Comment by Emperor Palpatine — August 6, 2006 @ 1:26 pm
Well, I guess that couldn’t be much clearer. Wow! You have some anger issues guy.
August 6th, 2006 at 1:29 pmDarth,
That’s better…
Of course I admit that. I think everything is some degree of ‘good’ and some degree of ‘bad’ based on how it is perceived and then applied or used in reality.
I have Christian friends who ignore the Old Testament and focus solely on the parts about Jesus saying that we should be nice to one another and, frankly, all of ‘creation’. I would never mock their religion to them. I only mock those who are hypocritical and who use their religion to harm others. Capische?
August 6th, 2006 at 1:33 pmAll the ‘haters’ are jealous of Mel’s success?
I look forward to when Fox News, et al apply the same logic the next time THEY bash every Hollywood actor/actress who speaks out…that they are just jealous of Striesand, Baldwin, Depp, Pitt, et al success…but I won’t hold my breath.
Their defense of Mel underscores their true allegience is to the bigots of the far-right.
August 6th, 2006 at 1:37 pmTo ANYONE accusing liberals of wanting Lieberman out because he’s Jewish; stuff it! I am a HUGE fan of Russ Feingold yet I can’t stand Lieberman. How to explain the dichotomy? Easy. I don’t like Lieberman because he’s an ineffective Democrat but a very effective Republican. Feingold is a man of intense integrity and foresight who would make a terrific president.
This whole neocon attempt to paint liberals as anti-semitic is another smoke and mirrors exercise in dupliicity brought to bear solely for the purpose of swaying Jewish voters in the next election into voting Republican. When the Republican party’s answer to all conflicts is war, what is the reality of Republican support for the Jews? That answer is also easy. Zero diplomacy, zero discussion and zero progress toward a lasting peace for Israel, which would also translate to peace for its neighbors.
Can one be pro-Israel and still criticize its actions? We better hope so because the example we have seen within our own borders, being accused of hating America for criticizing Bush, has allowed nothing but the destruction of our international standing, the emptying of our treasury and the hobbling of our military. Keeping silent and saying Israel always does best is to allow our ally free access to that same destructive path. Giving a drunk another fifth of whiskey is not support. The truest friend lets another know when they have strayed from the best course.
At any rate, with a president who believes in the Rapture at the helm, it is far more likely that his desire to see Israel instigate a larger war is promoted by a gleeful impatience for Jesus’ return. In that scenario, Israel is an expendable pawn, which means Bush is using Jews to further extremist Christian goals. The only name for that sort of callous manipulation is anti-semitism.
August 6th, 2006 at 1:42 pmI’m just Israel is kicking ass you guys ain’t in power.
Comment by Emperor Palpatine — August 6, 2006 @ 1:34 pm
Yeah, those long dead bastards … we need to avenge that stuff that happened in the, what was it, 7th century? Sure, lets kill a whole bunch of people today for stuff that happened 1300 years ago.
August 6th, 2006 at 1:43 pmTo Emperor Palpatine:
Um, you’re spreading the canard that Jews are a distinct “race.” Judaism is a religion, a belief system. Certainly their are genetic familiarities due to their ancestral roots, but do not call Jews a race. That kind of thinking lay under everything done by the Nazis. As for your fiancee hating American Jews, she doesn’t know what the hell she’s talking about. First, she’s making a sweeping generalization heavily laced with bigotry. Does she know every single American Jew?
She must also hate the Chilonim in Israel for their logical and interpretive approach to studying the Torah. She must hate them for wishing a meaningful dialogue with Arabs. She must hate them for not being reactionary on every occasion of violence. True, true, true, the Arabs have shown a dismal regard for reality and a contemptuous refusal to recognize Israel’s right to exist. But bombs will never change that mindset. The orthodoxy in Israel was responsible for assasinating Israel’s own leader. That kind of extremism, rigid and bigoted will never take Israel anywhere but ruin.
August 6th, 2006 at 1:54 pmOh, I get it…every “true” progressive who happens to be jewish is a phony jew. However a phony democratic like Lieberman is not a phony jew because he is actually a republican. Makes absolutely no sense but that is just the republican way!!
August 6th, 2006 at 1:55 pmMason paints with a very broad brush;as does Gibson.
Birds of a feather?
August 6th, 2006 at 1:56 pmSO EMPEROR MOVE TO ISRAEL -
August 6th, 2006 at 2:04 pmNo, a real Jew belives in the God of Israel and doesn’t support Islamo-Fascism.
Comment by Emperor Palpatine — August 6, 2006 @ 2:01 pm
Ah drooling religious Jewish freaks indistinguishable from drooling religious Islamic freaks? Now I get it.
August 6th, 2006 at 2:04 pmYeah Brian, it takes a while to realize what these idiots are actually saying = if you believe what I believe you are righteous, otherwise you are a phony. What a maroon!!!
August 6th, 2006 at 2:06 pm296. Unbelievable HOT chick:
Forget that Bible thumpin’ Darth dude; we still don’t know if he is dark or light.
I dropped the princess off in the OS8366 solar system,and would like to pick you up in my spaceship and have some fun.
(calm down R2D2)
August 6th, 2006 at 2:07 pmOkay E.P., you’re obviously a total, dyed in the wool bigot against anyone who does completely agree with your jingoism toward Muslims. Your kind of thinking is brutish, hateful, regressive and unfair to the millions of Muslims who only desire to raise families in peace, which does not excuse the many extremists who only want war. Feingold is no traitor and how dare you call him that! In the history of Judaism in America, it has always been those Jews with the ability and desire to examine all sides of an issue that has produced our most enlightened essays. Read some Isiah Berlin and discover what I mean. And get this straight, mate, Russ Feingold is an American. His duty is to serve American interests. To state that he is a traitor because he does not put Israel above America is an oxymoron.
God, you folks just love to toss that “you’re a traitor!” slander around. Can’t you energize the brain cells needed to see both sides of an issue, even if you believe the opponent wrong? Getting in the head of your rival, understanding how and why they think and feel as they do is not pandering. It’s a weapon. It arms you with the ability to anticipate what they may do next. Blindly rejecting anything they say as meaningless is just plain stupid. And for the record, if we really want to change the Middle East our most obvious weapon, still unused by the Bush administration, is to massively shift to alternate energy sources and divest us of any need to do energy business in that region.
You should also study history and recognize that when a powerful state places an extremist in power, as too many did with Bush, then other states promote extremists as a defensive reaction. In times of fear too many citizens fall back on the notion that only a strongman can keep them safe. The fact is, the even stronger man, or woman, is the one who understands how to use logic and discourse as a weapon. Without that understanding, exemplified by Bush, the only course they can imagine is pulling another trigger, begetting more hatred and making the problem worse.
August 6th, 2006 at 2:13 pmBrian Coughlan,
Hezzbollah rockets have killed sevearl in Haifa and wounded 30. Are you guys upset
Comment by Emperor Palpatine — August 6, 2006 @ 2:08 pm
Yes I’m absolutely horrified, however killing people randomly won’t help particularly, so I reject that “solution”.
August 6th, 2006 at 2:18 pmWhat extremist regime was in Power in Constantinople that caused Islamic Jihadis to invade the Roman Empire in 636?
I hear crickets!
Comment by Emperor Palpatine — August 6, 2006 @ 2:18 pm
Yeah, those long dead bastards … we need to avenge that stuff that happened in the, what was it, 7th century? Sure, lets kill a whole bunch of people today for stuff that happened 1300 years ago.
Oh? The crickets? They’re in your head.
August 6th, 2006 at 2:20 pmAgain, say what? E.P. you’re talking about 1400 year-old history. And seriously, do you not think the Roman Empire had not engendered a great deal of hatred for its 1000 years of repression prior to the date you mention? Get real, dude. The equivalent to you bringing up such an archaic premise is being pissed off to this day by the Norman invasion and the Battle of Hastings. Why don’t you just keep going back in time and stew about when Og threw a rock at Ug?
August 6th, 2006 at 2:22 pmWhy don’t you just keep going back in time and stew about when Og threw a rock at Ug?
Comment by Martin — August 6, 2006 @ 2:22 pm
Hey that bastard Og has a lot to answer for!!! I hope you’re not one of these sappy Ug supporters?
August 6th, 2006 at 2:25 pmFace it, E.P., you and your fiancee are lazy thinkers. You love to hate. It’s a puny mind that revels in hate. It’s a sick heart that sterotypes entire peoples, even more reprehensible from a Jew who knows contemporary fallout from that kind of bigotry. You hate the enemy for its intolerance toward Jews and yet you do the very same damn thing toward them, making you a mirror image of the thing you hate. What a dark and twisted household you live in. Lazy. Lazy. Lazy. The compassionate path, the way of real humanity, is always harder than the carnivorous, primitive path of hatred. We can keep yakking for days and it clearly won’t change one iota of your unenlightened thinking. We know that precisely because we can get into your head, E.P., made easier by the lack of mass within. What we may teach you is this: you don’t think and we do, so for you to come on here and vie to sway us to hateful radicalism is mind-bogglingly ridiculous. It is you who needs to see the light and the only way that will happen is if you understand the darkness in your own mind. A bigot is a bigot is a bigot and you are such a soul.
August 6th, 2006 at 2:30 pmChristomighty! E.P., you are insane. Thats right. You are deranged. You are now saying we are anti-Roman! First, how the hell do you know we aren’t Italians or Spaniards ourselves? Has one damn person suggested that we must shun Rome for its glorious achievements? Wacko!
August 6th, 2006 at 2:33 pmA bigot is a bigot is a bigot and you are such a soul.
Comment by Martin — August 6, 2006 @ 2:30 pm
Good post, and I’ll second that.
August 6th, 2006 at 2:34 pmI don’t pretend to care about Humanity all I care is about my Country, her allies and myself.
and in a nutshell – THIS IS A FASCIST!
August 6th, 2006 at 2:36 pmHey Brian,
I have it on good authority from Nug that Ug instigated Og into throwing that rock, which was granite, making it the first WMD, Weapon of Mental Dentage.
August 6th, 2006 at 2:37 pmAND – MY ANCESTORS ARE FROM SPAIN – YOU ASSHAT
August 6th, 2006 at 2:37 pmE.P., poor childish E.P. If you’re my worst nightmare I’ll be sleeping well until the ends of my days. It’s odd that you would state you needed the government’s help to make it. Does that makie you one of the poor who feel the government owes them something, the very kind of person so hated by your lovable righties? And for your enlightenment, my direct ancestor was Count Stauffenberg, the man who tried to blow up Hitler with the briefcase bomb. Oh, and I have two aunts who are nuns. Oh, and my family was the chief financer of a new Catholic church in our hometown. Oh, and I apply Jesus best teachings in the way I treat others. Jesus would hate no man. You do. Ergo, you hate Jesus. Got it, Jesus-hater?
August 6th, 2006 at 2:42 pmFUNNY HOW SPAIN WENT LEFT
August 6th, 2006 at 2:43 pmUh oh, he’s speaking spanish….
YOU, EP, are the TRAITOR – you ignorant self-hating lemming.
August 6th, 2006 at 2:44 pmThis is likely an example of Psychological Projection…Jackie Mason is admitting she is very sick, vicious, sadistic and perverted.
It’s sort of like her subconsience cry for help.
August 6th, 2006 at 2:46 pmEP – just know, THEY WILL NEVER ACCEPT YOU IN THEIR WASP TRIBE~
August 6th, 2006 at 2:47 pmOne WORD EP – the ALHAMBRA.
And those Arabs you like to hate – THEY GAVE YOU THE NUMBER SYSTEM YOU ASSHAT
August 6th, 2006 at 2:49 pmIT’S the NEW WORLD destroying THE CRADLE OF CIVILIZATION -
August 6th, 2006 at 2:50 pmwell, nothing new to learn here, or discuss. just more baiting going on, so really, I’m out of here now.
August 6th, 2006 at 2:52 pmBack to history, E.P. Constantine was a Sol Invicta worshipper. He was a tyrant who cozied to rich Christians to back his warfaring ways. He clung to his sun-worshipping ways even after he made Christianity the prime religion over worship of Mithras, Cybele and Attis, et al. Constantine’s siding with Christians was an example of mutual back-rubbing that led to the slaughter of loyal Romans who happened to also be pagans. And not one of those slaughtered by Constantine in that part of the scenario were Muslims. Oh golly, how you love to pick and choose.
August 6th, 2006 at 2:54 pmDear Jackie,
Your political/social commentary is much like your comdey shtick; lame, tired, and useless. It isn’t fit for nursing homes. Please retire to Miami beach with all the other old yentas and shut the **** up. In your misplaced defense of Gibson, you forget some very important facts. First, he was pretty drunk and unless he was just thrown out of a bar mitzvah (for being farshnickered), why would his drunkeness induce him to start cursing Jews? People don’t just have a few beers and start cursing Jews (or anyone else)out of the blue. There is some very deep psychological problem there. Secondly, in spite of all the anti-Mel Gibson sentiment that Mel himself believes the Jews to foster, he seems to be doing quite well in spite of them. So why is he so afraid of Jews?
Jackie, bubbeleh, if you wish to help your conservative wacko friend from down under, find him a good therapist and a bowl of chicken soup.
And lastly, if you aren’t part of the anti-Gibson conspiracy, how can you call yourself Jewish?
August 6th, 2006 at 2:54 pm[...] I don’t get it. [...]
August 6th, 2006 at 2:59 pm#346
Mecca cannot be burned. We will, however, destroy it and the surrounding communites by building WalMarts there.
Can you say “Jihad” on high prices???
August 6th, 2006 at 3:00 pmFinally! E.P. has graced us with his manifesto, which summed up is kill ‘em all. How Christian of you. I suppose as such a proud Hispanic, a term normally replaced these days by Latino, you cherish your roots by reading Neruda, Marquez, Ferlinghetti, et al., all bright minds who woul heartily reject every damn thing you say. Are they traitors too?
August 6th, 2006 at 3:01 pmI have it on good authority from Nug that Ug instigated Og into throwing that rock, which was granite, making it the first WMD, Weapon of Mental Dentage.
Comment by Martin — August 6, 2006 @ 2:37 pm
Oh yeah!? Well ok then!!!
I’m off to bed, enjoy:-)
August 6th, 2006 at 3:05 pmGawd!!! This is fun, matching wits with the witless. E.P., you fudge facts fabulously. Constantine did not convert until the very end of his days. He was NOT a converted Christian during the Council of Nicea, and yet he still dictated to the bishops what went into the bible and what got kicked out. That is true heresy. Your statement that pagans engaged in human sacrifice is patently wrong. It’s a lie. You lie. Roman emperors, on the other hand, had a long tradition of slaughtering innocents in the arena. Constantine was no exception. And you say Constantine did not engage in a religious war? Yet then you say he wiped out pagans? Is that not a religious war? Ping-pong! That’s the sound of your brain slapping the sides of your cranium as it shifts from one form of illogic to another.
August 6th, 2006 at 3:08 pm#349
Care to enlighten the rest of us as to the religious/philosophical beliefs of the Persian Empire in 300 AD?
This should be ‘interesting’.
August 6th, 2006 at 3:08 pmIs EP really crazy like Mel Gibson? Or sad and old like Jackie Mason? They had a love child and his name is Palpatine.
August 6th, 2006 at 3:12 pmWow, it is utterly incompatible to honor Guevara AND Pinochet. Apart from the evident confusion you must have over Guevara, who would reject the entire slate pressed by Bush and his crew, your overlords, Pinochet was a brutal fascist responsible for “disappearing” thousands of Chileans. To honor Pinochet is akin to honoring Pol Pot or Hitler or even Saddam, for if Pinochet had any contemporary mirror it was Saddam. Same tactics, same goals. It’s astounding how your mind floats in its own untethered reality where you can state with a straight face a love of Guevara and Pinochet. There is a clearly en element of schizophrenia at work among your neurons. I reiterate; Pinochet was a military-industrialist fascist. Guevara was a man fighting for the poor. Opposite sides of any coin.
August 6th, 2006 at 3:25 pmHow old is Mel? He’s not some 19 year old college kid. Anti-semitic remarks can’t be excused by being drunk at his age. It’s pathetic that he and his friends are using it to explain his rampage. Nobody rambles anti-semitic remarks just for the heck of it or just because their drunk. There’s has to be some underlying feelings behind them. It’s not socially acceptable, thank God, to be anti-semitic; especially if you want to be successful in Hollywood. That’s why you didn’t know Jodie Foster and the rest. Everybody knows a guy who came “out of the closet” and nobody knew or could believe it. Well Mel and Jodie, it’s o.k. to be gay, but it’s not to be anti-semitic. Mel shouldn’t be allowed to go running back into the closet like nothing happened. Right or wrong, movies (and therefore Mel) have tremendeous power and influence of today’s society. With this comes great responsibility, far to great to be in the hands of a drunk and closet anti-semite.
August 6th, 2006 at 3:29 pmi admire latin warriors like the Gonzales de Cordoba who in 1503 smashed the French Barbarians
Comment by Emperor Palpatine — August 6, 2006 @ 3:17 pm
The mark of the true right-winger: Blame the French for whatever. Fact is French is a romantic language and French people are Latins too.
As a matter of fact, Gaule was the first extra-Italian territory to be conquered by Rome, and part of the Western Roman Empire for centuries.
in the battle of Cerignola and began the war that would reunify the Latin people of Spain and Italy.
What!? Spain and Italy were never unified under a single kingdom. At different times, during the Italian wars, different Italian cities were ruled by Spain and others by France.
Modern Latins I admire are Che Guevara who was a Latin warrior and Pinochet who turned Chile from a backward 3rd world country into a modern nation!
A socialist icon and a fascist dictator are part both of your worship altar? You are a joke.
August 6th, 2006 at 3:41 pmI have things to do so I’ll say this to you, E.P. Your call for genocide against leftists and those you do not agree with is pure, unadulterated fascist tyranny. You better hope the day does not come when the shoe is on the other foot, making you a target. I for one would never call for the extermination of ANYONE. Why is that? Because I believe in the best of Jesus’ principles and I honor the commandment that Thou Shall Not Kill. Hell, I feel bad when I have to kill an invading mouse. To lust for murder against your human opposition, be it political or religious, makes you a traitor to Jesus. There are no ifs ands or buts about it. If you want to see people dead and if you actively support that genocide then you are a cretin, a scoundrel and a monster deserving nothing but the mass contempt of civilized society. You’re a black-hearted fascist. Disgusting. Foul. Useless. Not that I wish it, because I’d far prefer a compassionate shift in your dark and warped soul, but the world would be better off without your breed of stupid and repulsive hate. Por eso, vete al diablo!
August 6th, 2006 at 3:42 pmEmperor,
August 6th, 2006 at 3:46 pmI agree. But with every bad thing out there, there’s bound to be something worse. Yes we have to pick our battles, but I can’t blacklist Ahmadinejad. Wish I could, but I’ll bad mouth him too. Anti-semitism is like a plague, that gains strengths by numbers and feeds off every drunken remark and crazy Iranian Presidential speeches.
Wrong Hispania was the 1st non Italian territory.
Comment by Emperor Palpatine — August 6, 2006 @ 3:51 pm
I will concede your point on the Punic wars.
the French aren’t Latins. they may speak a Latin tonque but their culture is different from Italy and Spain. They’ really Celtic-Germanic.
What!? Is this a racial purity argument? If so, the Franks that settle modern-day Paris were of Germanic origin, but the rest of France was not settled by them -it was conquered.
The same can be said about bot h Spain and Italy: They were both conquered and ruled by Visigoths invaders of Germanic origin.
Spanish culture is about as far apart from the Italian as from the French culture.
Yes technically Spain and Italy weren,t united into a single Kdm.
Which is an admission that your statement “the war that would reunify the Latin people of Spain and Italy” was utter nonsense.
August 6th, 2006 at 4:10 pmPoor Mel Gibson..
August 6th, 2006 at 8:44 pmKill, Kill, Kill, the white man
Thank you
August 6th, 2006 at 10:31 pmE.P. You hold a 13 century grudge against a whole religion and think that this justifies the killing of them all? My ancestors in Crete were subjugated and oppressed by the Ottomans, Byzantines and Eqyptians for over a millenia, betrayed by England when the Greeks won their independence and only in 1898 were they liberated from the Turks. So…which group should I hate most? Which one should I wish death upon? Which should be exterminated?
Being Spanish, would it be ok for a native of South or Central America to slash your throat since your ancestors massacred them by the thousands?
August 6th, 2006 at 10:45 pm“The Byzantines never existed. That’s a French lie. thet called themselves Romaoi.
they were Greek speaking Romans. They were your ancestors. You should be mad at the Islamic Turks. They were Jihadi savages that despoiled the Romaoi(Greek) nation.”
No, the Eastern Roman Empire were not natives of Crete. The Mycenaens settled Crete after the apparent destruction of the Minoans by a volcanic eruption.. While the Hellenistic Empire and Cretans had common ancestors the Byzantines were not ancestors to Crete. Nonetheless, since they cohabitated with Cretans it is likely that I am personally decended from the Byzantines. You are absolutely correct that the Turks were absolutely barbaric to the Cretans and forced the Cretans to convert to Islam…or die. This would appear to give me, even more so than you, reason to hate Turks and Muslims as it happened in much more recent history. However, I certainly don’t see it that way. The Spaniards, the English, the French, the Americans have all committed atrocities and have oppressed and murdered people as well. Every country, creed, race has been harmed by another. If we subscribed to your hatred we would have hundreds or thousands of wars going on forever.. Every country has had its monsters and none have spotless histories.
August 7th, 2006 at 12:50 amCan’t give E.P. the last word.
I’d like to invent a word that exemplifies my distatse and denial of any opinion you express, summed up as butcher everyone but yourself. The word is “nyarck!” It sounds legitimately derisive when spoken, works when dragged out and has an undertone of excellent contempt. So…
Nyarck!!
August 7th, 2006 at 12:52 amOh, and by the way, I have both Cretan and German blood. Should I hate myself because the Nazis occupied and murdered Cretans? Where does it end?
August 7th, 2006 at 12:54 am#28: Liberals don’t like jews. The campaign against Lieberman is based on anti-semitism.
I have to weigh in on this because this comment is so loathsome in its stupidity and inaccuracy. The campaign against Lieberman is based on two factors:
1. Lieberman has consistently supported policies that liberals don’t like, such as the foolish war in Iraq, and he has been a close ally of the Bush administration.
2. Ned Lamont is a good candidate who will make a good Senator.
It is obnoxious and dishonest to find other motives where such motives do not exist.
August 7th, 2006 at 2:58 amThe point being that if you are succsessful etc., you can get away with anything
August 7th, 2006 at 9:11 amLiberals get a sick, perverted, sadistic thrill going after Lieberman because they see it as a way of sending a message to a jew that they don’t like them.
Oh! Okay. That’s why I’m not a Lieberman supporter – because I hate Jews. Thanks for the update. I find that a little difficult to reconcile with the fact that I’m a Jew myself, but I’m sure that I’ll figure it out.
Now I just have to figure out how to break it to my mother and father than I hate them for their race…
August 7th, 2006 at 10:16 am#371 ah your devotion to “diversity” is heartwarming -in an AK-47 kinda way.
August 7th, 2006 at 11:18 amhow did this thread turn to anti semitic politics ? this is about the democratic party “swiftboating ” one of their own for not being enough of a moonbat. Remember how Clinton really won the elections?? Two words- Ross Perot. But it does give me a warm fuzzy feeling seeing democrats once again self destructing as usual.
oops wrong post.. my apologies before the tolerant “progressive” wolves attack.
August 7th, 2006 at 11:20 amI Hate Liberals comes here looking for tolerance? That’s a joke. A sad joke. I have never seen such hateful bile spewed by one person. Don’t come here looking for tolerance, because you are intolerable. So intolerable, so hateful your comments, so borderline serial killer, that they all had to be removed from an older thread. Get real. (Frankly, I don’t understand why this neo-nazi is allowed to post here any longer. Moderator?)
As far as Mel Gibson goes, he flapped his lips, he said stupid things, and he will be the one to bear the fallout from all of it. Some people in his business will accept his apology and move on, some people will not and they won’t work with him anymore. Some of the public will forgive him, and continue to see his movies, some of the public will not. That’s the way it goes.
August 7th, 2006 at 12:55 pmlike a bombshell in this thread, I just see Republican spew everywhere
August 7th, 2006 at 1:13 pmmel gibson is more popular than the beatles ever where, and more popular than jesus himself was,
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