Comments on: Bush Dismisses Generals’ Concerns: ‘I Hear People Say, Well, Civil War This, Civil War That’ http://thinkprogress.org/2006/08/07/iraq-civil-war-3/ Thu, 26 Nov 2009 15:43:54 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: Exley http://thinkprogress.org/2006/08/07/iraq-civil-war-3/comment-page-6/#comment-717785 Exley Thu, 10 Aug 2006 00:16:13 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/08/07/iraq-civil-war-3/#comment-717785 <em>"These religious and ethnic “feuds” are hardly petty, but are the foundation of the history and culture of that entire region for over 2,000 years. "</em> Are you arguing that the Arab Middle East has an irredeemable culture of violence? Moroever, are you arguing that these ethnic feuds somehow justify the sectarian violence between the Iraqis? “These religious and ethnic “feuds” are hardly petty, but are the foundation of the history and culture of that entire region for over 2,000 years. “

Are you arguing that the Arab Middle East has an irredeemable culture of violence? Moroever, are you arguing that these ethnic feuds somehow justify the sectarian violence between the Iraqis?

]]> By: Impeachcheneythenbush http://thinkprogress.org/2006/08/07/iraq-civil-war-3/comment-page-6/#comment-716822 Impeachcheneythenbush Wed, 09 Aug 2006 17:48:30 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/08/07/iraq-civil-war-3/#comment-716822 # 122 - Blue Dog...WOW...I've never heard the failures of this President expressed more clearly! Excellent! # 122 – Blue Dog…WOW…I’ve never heard the failures of this President expressed more clearly! Excellent!

]]> By: Impeachcheneythenbush http://thinkprogress.org/2006/08/07/iraq-civil-war-3/comment-page-6/#comment-716791 Impeachcheneythenbush Wed, 09 Aug 2006 17:24:05 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/08/07/iraq-civil-war-3/#comment-716791 <em>Plus, while I am pessimistic (as pessimistic as I have ever been), a small part of me still hopes that the Iraqi people will seize this historic opportunity, <strong>put aside their petty religious and ethnic feuds</strong>, and create a sustainable, peaceful, civilized democratic society….That admittedly seems less and less likely with each passing day, but a glimmer of hope remains. Comment by exley — August 7, 2006 @ 12:59 pm </em> The part of your comment that I bolded is EXACTLY why this administration made the horrendous mistake of deciding to invade Iraq in the first place. These religious and ethnic "feuds" are hardly petty, but are the foundation of the history and culture of that entire region for over 2,000 years. The utter arrogance of a country which is only a little over 200 years old, while ignoring the experiences of the Europeans and the Russians in that region for many decades, to believe we could bring "democracy" and the "American way of life" ..and in fact had such a right to do so...has borne some bitter fruits for all involved. And the bottom line is this: if that region didn't have either oil or were geographically positive for laying oil pipeline down from oil-producing areas, neither the U.S., Europe or Russia (or China) would give a damn about what happened there. Plus, while I am pessimistic (as pessimistic as I have ever been), a small part of me still hopes that the Iraqi people will seize this historic opportunity, put aside their petty religious and ethnic feuds, and create a sustainable, peaceful, civilized democratic society….That admittedly seems less and less likely with each passing day, but a glimmer of hope remains.

Comment by exley — August 7, 2006 @ 12:59 pm

The part of your comment that I bolded is EXACTLY why this administration made the horrendous mistake of deciding to invade Iraq in the first place. These religious and ethnic “feuds” are hardly petty, but are the foundation of the history and culture of that entire region for over 2,000 years. The utter arrogance of a country which is only a little over 200 years old, while ignoring the experiences of the Europeans and the Russians in that region for many decades, to believe we could bring “democracy” and the “American way of life” ..and in fact had such a right to do so…has borne some bitter fruits for all involved. And the bottom line is this: if that region didn’t have either oil or were geographically positive for laying oil pipeline down from oil-producing areas, neither the U.S., Europe or Russia (or China) would give a damn about what happened there.

]]> By: UnbiasedTruth.org » OH, THE WASTE OF HUMANITY! PLEASE FORGIVE US LORD… http://thinkprogress.org/2006/08/07/iraq-civil-war-3/comment-page-6/#comment-716068 UnbiasedTruth.org » OH, THE WASTE OF HUMANITY! PLEASE FORGIVE US LORD… Wed, 09 Aug 2006 06:02:02 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/08/07/iraq-civil-war-3/#comment-716068 [...] In the last week alone, those warning of a civil war in Iraq include: America’s top commander in Iraq, Gen. George Casey; Joint Chiefs of Staff chairman Peter Pace, Centcom commander Gen. John Abizaid; and Britain’s ambassador to Iraq. But what does Bush hear? ’yadda yadda yadda. [...] [...] In the last week alone, those warning of a civil war in Iraq include: America’s top commander in Iraq, Gen. George Casey; Joint Chiefs of Staff chairman Peter Pace, Centcom commander Gen. John Abizaid; and Britain’s ambassador to Iraq. But what does Bush hear? ’yadda yadda yadda. [...]

]]> By: ameba » ‘I Hear People Say, Well, Civil War This, Civil War That’ http://thinkprogress.org/2006/08/07/iraq-civil-war-3/comment-page-6/#comment-715920 ameba » ‘I Hear People Say, Well, Civil War This, Civil War That’ Wed, 09 Aug 2006 03:24:51 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/08/07/iraq-civil-war-3/#comment-715920 [...] En inglés [...] [...] En inglés [...]

]]> By: Thou Shall Not Suck » Blog Archive » Like This and Like That http://thinkprogress.org/2006/08/07/iraq-civil-war-3/comment-page-6/#comment-715769 Thou Shall Not Suck » Blog Archive » Like This and Like That Wed, 09 Aug 2006 01:46:04 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/08/07/iraq-civil-war-3/#comment-715769 [...] Remarks: When George Bush said yesterday that he hears about “civil war this, civil war that,” for some reason the song “Nothin’ but a G Thang” kept going through my head. (NOTE: I’ll post a sample later for those who don’t know the song, but you can hear the original at iTunes — sorry, no direct link.) [...] [...] Remarks: When George Bush said yesterday that he hears about “civil war this, civil war that,” for some reason the song “Nothin’ but a G Thang” kept going through my head. (NOTE: I’ll post a sample later for those who don’t know the song, but you can hear the original at iTunes — sorry, no direct link.) [...]

]]> By: ozymandius2 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/08/07/iraq-civil-war-3/comment-page-6/#comment-715101 ozymandius2 Tue, 08 Aug 2006 18:38:05 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/08/07/iraq-civil-war-3/#comment-715101 Yes america..the king cant see he's wearing no clothes. Yes america..the king cant see he’s wearing no clothes.

]]> By: A Moderate from South Dakota » Clueless! http://thinkprogress.org/2006/08/07/iraq-civil-war-3/comment-page-6/#comment-714804 A Moderate from South Dakota » Clueless! Tue, 08 Aug 2006 15:44:41 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/08/07/iraq-civil-war-3/#comment-714804 [...] Clueless! By sdmoderate Has any statement that has ever come out of President Bush’s mouth been more ridiculous than what he said in a press conference yesterday in regards to a civil war in Iraq? (highlighting mine) BUSH: My attitude is that a young democracy has been born quite quickly. And I think the Iraqi government has shown remarkable progress on the political front. And that is is that they developed a modern constitution that was ratified by the people and then 12 million people voted for a government. [...] [...] Clueless! By sdmoderate Has any statement that has ever come out of President Bush’s mouth been more ridiculous than what he said in a press conference yesterday in regards to a civil war in Iraq? (highlighting mine) BUSH: My attitude is that a young democracy has been born quite quickly. And I think the Iraqi government has shown remarkable progress on the political front. And that is is that they developed a modern constitution that was ratified by the people and then 12 million people voted for a government. [...]

]]> By: Anrum Halevi http://thinkprogress.org/2006/08/07/iraq-civil-war-3/comment-page-6/#comment-714788 Anrum Halevi Tue, 08 Aug 2006 15:26:35 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/08/07/iraq-civil-war-3/#comment-714788 Most of those "so-called" Iraqi votes were from the US, from "muslims with dual citizenship" arranged by Bushco and shipped to Iraq. Most of those “so-called” Iraqi votes were from the US, from “muslims with dual citizenship” arranged by Bushco and shipped to Iraq.

]]> By: exley http://thinkprogress.org/2006/08/07/iraq-civil-war-3/comment-page-6/#comment-714707 exley Tue, 08 Aug 2006 14:29:47 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/08/07/iraq-civil-war-3/#comment-714707 Thank you, Mighty Aphrodite....It's what I do. Thank you, Mighty Aphrodite….It’s what I do.

]]> By: Thom http://thinkprogress.org/2006/08/07/iraq-civil-war-3/comment-page-6/#comment-714694 Thom Tue, 08 Aug 2006 14:15:41 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/08/07/iraq-civil-war-3/#comment-714694 #85 BlueDog, you have made yet another error when you wrote, “You’re both wrong about Lieberman …” I have taken no position on Lieberman v. Lamont. I could not care less who wins. In fact, I must say I take a certain amount of enjoyment out of seeing the Democratic Party tear at eachother like this. <strong>A divided Democratic Party is good for my side. "Your Side"???? That is the problem with the Conservative movement. This isn't our lives and livelyhoods on the line, it is a competition. I assumed that we are all Americans and are on the same side. Oops, my bad.</strong> #85
BlueDog, you have made yet another error when you wrote, “You’re both wrong about Lieberman …” I have taken no position on Lieberman v. Lamont. I could not care less who wins. In fact, I must say I take a certain amount of enjoyment out of seeing the Democratic Party tear at eachother like this. A divided Democratic Party is good for my side.
“Your Side”???? That is the problem with the Conservative movement. This isn’t our lives and livelyhoods on the line, it is a competition. I assumed that we are all Americans and are on the same side. Oops, my bad.

]]> By: Eric http://thinkprogress.org/2006/08/07/iraq-civil-war-3/comment-page-6/#comment-714615 Eric Tue, 08 Aug 2006 13:25:43 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/08/07/iraq-civil-war-3/#comment-714615 Lend-Lease From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Jump to: navigation, search This article is about the World War II programme. For the Australian corporation, see Lend Lease Corporation. Lend-Lease was a major United States program 1940-1945 which enabled the United States to provide Britain, Russia, China and other Allied nations with vast amounts of war material (matériel). Unlike the loans of World War I, the transfers were gifts that were not to be repaid. It began in March 1941, nine months before the US officially entered the war in December of 1941. Lend-Lease came on the heels of Cash and Carry, following correspondence between Winston Churchill and Franklin Roosevelt on the economic status of Britain and their inability to pay for and transport materials as they once did. It ended soon after V-J Day, on September 2, 1945. This program was the first large step away from American isolationism and towards international involvement since the end of WWI. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lend-Lease Lend-Lease
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Jump to: navigation, search

This article is about the World War II programme. For the Australian corporation, see Lend Lease Corporation.

Lend-Lease was a major United States program 1940-1945 which enabled the United States to provide Britain, Russia, China and other Allied nations with vast amounts of war material (matériel). Unlike the loans of World War I, the transfers were gifts that were not to be repaid. It began in March 1941, nine months before the US officially entered the war in December of 1941. Lend-Lease came on the heels of Cash and Carry, following correspondence between Winston Churchill and Franklin Roosevelt on the economic status of Britain and their inability to pay for and transport materials as they once did. It ended soon after V-J Day, on September 2, 1945. This program was the first large step away from American isolationism and towards international involvement since the end of WWI.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lend-Lease

]]> By: Sharon Cox http://thinkprogress.org/2006/08/07/iraq-civil-war-3/comment-page-6/#comment-714599 Sharon Cox Tue, 08 Aug 2006 12:58:15 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/08/07/iraq-civil-war-3/#comment-714599 Thank You again Ho Chi Min...I will do that.....Blessings Thank You again Ho Chi Min…I will do that…..Blessings

]]> By: Ho Chi Minh http://thinkprogress.org/2006/08/07/iraq-civil-war-3/comment-page-6/#comment-714566 Ho Chi Minh Tue, 08 Aug 2006 11:35:43 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/08/07/iraq-civil-war-3/#comment-714566 Sharon cox: I don't know what the ranges are offhand, but google IQ scores and it will explain. Sharon cox: I don’t know what the ranges are offhand, but google IQ scores and it will explain.

]]> By: Rishi http://thinkprogress.org/2006/08/07/iraq-civil-war-3/comment-page-6/#comment-714412 Rishi Tue, 08 Aug 2006 06:01:08 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/08/07/iraq-civil-war-3/#comment-714412 the irony behind #351 is that the quote is from the French general, later saint, who violently suppressed the Albigensian Heresy in Marseille in the early 13th century. This little massacre of Christians by Christians prompted one soldier to ask his general how to recognize the faithful from the heretic: "Tuez les tous, le Dieu reconnaitre la sienne." Who was the British diplomat who wondered why the president of Isreal and the President of Egypt couldn't "just do the Christian thing?" the irony behind #351 is that the quote is from the French general, later saint, who violently suppressed the Albigensian Heresy in Marseille in the early 13th century. This little massacre of Christians by Christians prompted one soldier to ask his general how to recognize the faithful from the heretic: “Tuez les tous, le Dieu reconnaitre la sienne.”

Who was the British diplomat who wondered why the president of Isreal and the President of Egypt couldn’t “just do the Christian thing?”

]]> By: Bruce Doxey http://thinkprogress.org/2006/08/07/iraq-civil-war-3/comment-page-6/#comment-714362 Bruce Doxey Tue, 08 Aug 2006 05:06:07 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/08/07/iraq-civil-war-3/#comment-714362 All the talk about the possibility of civil war in Iraq leaves me speechless. What the hell do they think they have been witnessing for the past two years? All the talk about the possibility of civil war in Iraq leaves me speechless. What the hell do they think they have been witnessing for the past two years?

]]> By: welcomed as interlopers http://thinkprogress.org/2006/08/07/iraq-civil-war-3/comment-page-6/#comment-714350 welcomed as interlopers Tue, 08 Aug 2006 04:52:24 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/08/07/iraq-civil-war-3/#comment-714350 Reading Monkey's comments just ruins my day. Tell me this is a dream and we'll wake up from it. Reading Monkey’s comments just ruins my day. Tell me this is a dream and we’ll wake up from it.

]]> By: TerrytheTurtle http://thinkprogress.org/2006/08/07/iraq-civil-war-3/comment-page-6/#comment-714348 TerrytheTurtle Tue, 08 Aug 2006 04:51:39 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/08/07/iraq-civil-war-3/#comment-714348 #351 - so who thinks 'Kill em all' is a parody and who thinks he/she is real? I'm going with parody... she/he's pretty funny. #351 – so who thinks ‘Kill em all’ is a parody and who thinks he/she is real? I’m going with parody… she/he’s pretty funny.

]]> By: Zooey http://thinkprogress.org/2006/08/07/iraq-civil-war-3/comment-page-6/#comment-714296 Zooey Tue, 08 Aug 2006 04:09:49 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/08/07/iraq-civil-war-3/#comment-714296 #347 - WalttheMan, <em>Zooey, There was a psy study a few months back that placed W’s IQ at 91. I’ll try to find it tomorrow. Time for my beauty rest - boy do I need it! Comment by WaltTheMan</em> I heard that was a hoax or a parody. Trouble is, people really didn't have a hard time believing it. Oops... #347 – WalttheMan,

Zooey,
There was a psy study a few months back that placed W’s IQ at 91. I’ll try to find it tomorrow. Time for my beauty rest – boy do I need it!
Comment by WaltTheMan

I heard that was a hoax or a parody. Trouble is, people really didn’t have a hard time believing it. Oops…

]]> By: Kill Em ALL Let GOD Sort EM OUT http://thinkprogress.org/2006/08/07/iraq-civil-war-3/comment-page-6/#comment-714293 Kill Em ALL Let GOD Sort EM OUT Tue, 08 Aug 2006 04:07:55 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/08/07/iraq-civil-war-3/#comment-714293 <strong>IFN YOU AINT WHITE CHRISTIAN GOD FEARING AMERICAN YOU AINT GOING TO HEAVEN SO BURN IN HELL YOU COMMIE BASTARDS! BUSH IS A TRUE AMERICAN PATRIOT LEADING AMERICA TO SALVATION! LET THESE JEWS AND ARABS KILL EACHOTHER OFF AS GOD INTENDED. AMEN! GOD BLESS AMERICA AND GEORGE BUSH!</strong> IFN YOU AINT WHITE CHRISTIAN GOD FEARING AMERICAN YOU AINT GOING TO HEAVEN SO BURN IN HELL YOU COMMIE BASTARDS! BUSH IS A TRUE AMERICAN PATRIOT LEADING AMERICA TO SALVATION! LET THESE JEWS AND ARABS KILL EACHOTHER OFF AS GOD INTENDED. AMEN! GOD BLESS AMERICA AND GEORGE BUSH!

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