Comments on: Gen. George Casey: Civil War Is ‘The Most Significant Threat Right Now’ In Iraq http://thinkprogress.org/2006/08/08/iraq-casey/ Thu, 26 Nov 2009 10:44:30 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: JF http://thinkprogress.org/2006/08/08/iraq-casey/comment-page-2/#comment-876387 JF Mon, 25 Sep 2006 23:32:20 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/08/08/iraq-casey/#comment-876387 Astounding... and did anyone manage to pair this up yet with the Wolf Blitzer interview, where Bush <em>dismissises</em> the possibility of Civil War by citing Casey as one of the people "on the ground" who says it's not a real threat? It's in that part where Bush tells Blitzer that he prefers not to take Koffi Annan's view on the crisis, since someone like Casey has a different view. And here, it turns out, Bush is wrong about that too. (Get the part at the end of that interview, where Bush tells Blitzer to be quiet so he can keep talking... a favorite Bush technique in interviews he doesn't like.) Astounding… and did anyone manage to pair this up yet with the Wolf Blitzer interview, where Bush dismissises the possibility of Civil War by citing Casey as one of the people “on the ground” who says it’s not a real threat? It’s in that part where Bush tells Blitzer that he prefers not to take Koffi Annan’s view on the crisis, since someone like Casey has a different view. And here, it turns out, Bush is wrong about that too. (Get the part at the end of that interview, where Bush tells Blitzer to be quiet so he can keep talking… a favorite Bush technique in interviews he doesn’t like.)

]]> By: theravendavidpoe http://thinkprogress.org/2006/08/08/iraq-casey/comment-page-2/#comment-721334 theravendavidpoe Fri, 11 Aug 2006 13:00:43 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/08/08/iraq-casey/#comment-721334 If we had utilized the Iraqi army instead of blanket firing them just because we could, there would be 200,000 less angry Iraqis with guns. Not to mention the Al Qaqaa incident. If we had utilized the Iraqi army instead of blanket firing them just because we could, there would be 200,000 less angry Iraqis with guns.

Not to mention the Al Qaqaa incident.

]]> By: MDG http://thinkprogress.org/2006/08/08/iraq-casey/comment-page-2/#comment-719909 MDG Thu, 10 Aug 2006 20:38:52 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/08/08/iraq-casey/#comment-719909 Perhaps we can prevent such conflicts from occuring in the first place if there wasn't poverty and economic strife tearing the country apart. If the US were to uphold its commitment to the U.N. Millennium Development Goals, perhaps the Iraqi people would be well-fed, well-educated, and have more resources at their disposal to deal with altercations. Education and a fair shot at life are powerful tools. Perhaps we can prevent such conflicts from occuring in the first place if there wasn’t poverty and economic strife tearing the country apart. If the US were to uphold its commitment to the U.N. Millennium Development Goals, perhaps the Iraqi people would be well-fed, well-educated, and have more resources at their disposal to deal with altercations. Education and a fair shot at life are powerful tools.

]]> By: mighty aphrodite http://thinkprogress.org/2006/08/08/iraq-casey/comment-page-2/#comment-716582 mighty aphrodite Wed, 09 Aug 2006 15:38:55 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/08/08/iraq-casey/#comment-716582 Dear Prog Friends, Allow me to congratulate you on the primary victory of progressive-extraordinaire, Ned Lamont. (I apologize for going off thread, but not finding any commentary - yet - on the Connecticut results - and noting Neds' opposition to the War in Iraq I thought I could send you a hearty congratulations here.) On a sad note, please asscept my condolences on the demise of Cynthia McKinney's congressional campaign. Conspiracy theories just won't be the same..... Dear Prog Friends, Allow me to congratulate you on the primary victory of progressive-extraordinaire, Ned Lamont. (I apologize for going off thread, but not finding any commentary – yet – on the Connecticut results – and noting Neds’ opposition to the War in Iraq I thought I could send you a hearty congratulations here.)

On a sad note, please asscept my condolences on the demise of Cynthia McKinney’s congressional campaign. Conspiracy theories just won’t be the same…..

]]> By: GRANDPAPETE http://thinkprogress.org/2006/08/08/iraq-casey/comment-page-2/#comment-716341 GRANDPAPETE Wed, 09 Aug 2006 12:35:58 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/08/08/iraq-casey/#comment-716341 THIS video seems to contradick RUMMYS statements infront of the WASHINGTON COMMITY a few days ago , RUMMY was asked if CIVEL WAR was coming to IRAQ he said NO, I DON'T KNOW , IMDONT THINK SO, NO. THIS video seems to contradick RUMMYS statements infront of the WASHINGTON COMMITY a few days ago , RUMMY was asked if CIVEL WAR was coming to IRAQ he said NO, I DON’T KNOW , IMDONT THINK SO, NO.

]]> By: Jay Randal http://thinkprogress.org/2006/08/08/iraq-casey/comment-page-2/#comment-716110 Jay Randal Wed, 09 Aug 2006 06:51:40 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/08/08/iraq-casey/#comment-716110 Sorry Gen. Casey, but civil war already exists in Iraq, so open your damn eyes wide! Sorry Gen. Casey, but civil war already exists in Iraq, so open your damn eyes wide!

]]> By: rick s http://thinkprogress.org/2006/08/08/iraq-casey/comment-page-2/#comment-715759 rick s Wed, 09 Aug 2006 01:41:36 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/08/08/iraq-casey/#comment-715759 We'll be greeted as liberators... I think the war will last six months at the most We’ll be greeted as liberators… I think the war will last six months at the most

]]> By: rick s http://thinkprogress.org/2006/08/08/iraq-casey/comment-page-2/#comment-715756 rick s Wed, 09 Aug 2006 01:39:56 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/08/08/iraq-casey/#comment-715756 Civil War this, Civil War that... What's your definition for Civil War? Is it really that bad? It is so much better now.. Civil War this, Civil War that… What’s your definition for Civil War? Is it really that bad? It is so much better now..

]]> By: Ho Chi Minh http://thinkprogress.org/2006/08/08/iraq-casey/comment-page-2/#comment-715629 Ho Chi Minh Tue, 08 Aug 2006 23:44:56 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/08/08/iraq-casey/#comment-715629 <em>"What, me worry?"---Alfred E. Bush</em> “What, me worry?”—Alfred E. Bush

]]> By: The Bush Awareness Report » Blog Archive » As Lamont and Lieberman finish off…people ignore Bush follower sleaze (other than Lieberman) http://thinkprogress.org/2006/08/08/iraq-casey/comment-page-2/#comment-715420 The Bush Awareness Report » Blog Archive » As Lamont and Lieberman finish off…people ignore Bush follower sleaze (other than Lieberman) Tue, 08 Aug 2006 21:34:42 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/08/08/iraq-casey/#comment-715420 [...] Think Progress [...] [...] Think Progress [...]

]]> By: Gregor Samsa http://thinkprogress.org/2006/08/08/iraq-casey/comment-page-2/#comment-715409 Gregor Samsa Tue, 08 Aug 2006 21:33:34 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/08/08/iraq-casey/#comment-715409 <i> But he also said neither Iraq nor Baghdad were currently in a civil war. Comment by exley — August 8, 2006 @ 4:07 pm </i> Nor was it ThinkProgress' contention, was it? Gen Casey clearly said Iraq is not in a civil war <b>right now</b>, but that it is a distinct possibility -progress notwithstanding. And that is what ThinkProgress highlighted. Yes? But he also said neither Iraq nor Baghdad were currently in a civil war.
Comment by exley — August 8, 2006 @ 4:07 pm

Nor was it ThinkProgress’ contention, was it?

Gen Casey clearly said Iraq is not in a civil war right now, but that it is a distinct possibility -progress notwithstanding. And that is what ThinkProgress highlighted. Yes?

]]> By: Jake http://thinkprogress.org/2006/08/08/iraq-casey/comment-page-2/#comment-715308 Jake Tue, 08 Aug 2006 20:30:58 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/08/08/iraq-casey/#comment-715308 Gen. Casey, DUH! Gen. Casey, DUH!

]]> By: coal_train http://thinkprogress.org/2006/08/08/iraq-casey/comment-page-2/#comment-715269 coal_train Tue, 08 Aug 2006 20:14:15 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/08/08/iraq-casey/#comment-715269 How long before we hear Condi and Rummy saying, "Nobody could have predicted a civil war." How long before we hear Condi and Rummy saying, “Nobody could have predicted a civil war.”

]]> By: exley http://thinkprogress.org/2006/08/08/iraq-casey/comment-page-2/#comment-715251 exley Tue, 08 Aug 2006 20:07:40 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/08/08/iraq-casey/#comment-715251 Gregor, You are correct. I should have said "incomplete," rather than "inaccurate." Yes, he certainly did say all of which you describe. But he also said neither Iraq nor Baghdad were currently in a civil war. And he also said, "There's been great progress over the last two years and you've been here enough where you've seen the situation ebb and flow just like it is now. We're ebbing right now. And we're going to come out of it just like we have in the other places. And if you think about how you felt, or I'll think about how I felt before Fallujah or before the elections in January. We're in a much better place than we were in both of those periods." Gregor, You are correct. I should have said “incomplete,” rather than “inaccurate.” Yes, he certainly did say all of which you describe. But he also said neither Iraq nor Baghdad were currently in a civil war. And he also said, “There’s been great progress over the last two years and you’ve been here enough where you’ve seen the situation ebb and flow just like it is now. We’re ebbing right now. And we’re going to come out of it just like we have in the other places. And if you think about how you felt, or I’ll think about how I felt before Fallujah or before the elections in January. We’re in a much better place than we were in both of those periods.”

]]> By: Gregor Samsa http://thinkprogress.org/2006/08/08/iraq-casey/comment-page-2/#comment-715224 Gregor Samsa Tue, 08 Aug 2006 19:54:10 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/08/08/iraq-casey/#comment-715224 <i>which put TP’s somewhat inaccurate depiction of the general’s comments in some context. Comment by exley — August 8, 2006 @ 3:12 pm</i> ThinkProgress first quoted Gen Casey (a civil war in Iraq “certainly is possible”, a potential civil war is “the most significant threat right now” in Iraq") and then stated that Gen Casey has joined others who "warn that Iraq is in danger of sliding into civil war." How is that inaccurate? Isn't that what Gen Casey said? which put TP’s somewhat inaccurate depiction of the general’s comments in some context.
Comment by exley — August 8, 2006 @ 3:12 pm

ThinkProgress first quoted Gen Casey (a civil war in Iraq “certainly is possible”, a potential civil war is “the most significant threat right now” in Iraq”) and then stated that Gen Casey has joined others who “warn that Iraq is in danger of sliding into civil war.”

How is that inaccurate? Isn’t that what Gen Casey said?

]]> By: whoar.co.nz » Blog Archive » yet another top american military man predicts civil war in iraq.. http://thinkprogress.org/2006/08/08/iraq-casey/comment-page-2/#comment-715170 whoar.co.nz » Blog Archive » yet another top american military man predicts civil war in iraq.. Tue, 08 Aug 2006 19:18:04 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/08/08/iraq-casey/#comment-715170 [...] go to source/story>>Think Progress » Gen. George Casey: Civil War Is ‘The Most Significant Threat Right Now’ In Iraq [...] [...] go to source/story>>Think Progress » Gen. George Casey: Civil War Is ‘The Most Significant Threat Right Now’ In Iraq [...]

]]> By: exley http://thinkprogress.org/2006/08/08/iraq-casey/comment-page-2/#comment-715166 exley Tue, 08 Aug 2006 19:12:34 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/08/08/iraq-casey/#comment-715166 No More Bush, I am not sure what your are talking about. If you check again you will see I posted at 10:33 am (post#16) in which I provided some additional quotes from Gen. Casey's interview, which put TP's somewhat inaccurate depiction of the general's comments in some context. No More Bush, I am not sure what your are talking about. If you check again you will see I posted at 10:33 am (post#16) in which I provided some additional quotes from Gen. Casey’s interview, which put TP’s somewhat inaccurate depiction of the general’s comments in some context.

]]> By: cognitorex http://thinkprogress.org/2006/08/08/iraq-casey/comment-page-2/#comment-715141 cognitorex Tue, 08 Aug 2006 19:00:46 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/08/08/iraq-casey/#comment-715141 <strong>“PERVERSIONS TO THE IMPERIALIST AMERICAN PIGS”</strong> . (a short play about a civil war day in the life of a Baghdad family -Bashir, a young man, enters his family’s apartment and greets his father.) Bashir: Greetings Father, Praise be to Allah. Father: Praise be to Allah. Bashir: It’s hot in here. Did we have any electricity today? Father: One hour, tops. May Allah rain perversions on the Imperialist American Pigs! Bashir: That sucks. A thousand perversions to the Infidels. Father: What did you do today? Bashir: Praise be to Allah, I put out one roadside IED and helped prepare a suicider for a Mosque mission at evening prayers. Father: Praise be to Allah, but did you stop by the Coalition Forces Outreach Center like your Mother asked you to? Bashir: Yes, Papa I did. Father: And did you tell them that death squads have harassing and threatening your Mother, sisters and our neighbors? Bashir: Yes Papa I did. They said that they already knew and intended to step up patrols. They were very sympathetic. Father: A thousand perversions to the Imperialist Occupiers. Bashir: Praise be to Allah, a thousand perversions. “PERVERSIONS TO THE IMPERIALIST AMERICAN PIGS”
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(a short play about a civil war day in the life of a Baghdad family -Bashir, a young man, enters his family’s apartment and greets his father.)

Bashir: Greetings Father, Praise be to Allah.
Father: Praise be to Allah.
Bashir: It’s hot in here. Did we have any electricity today?
Father: One hour, tops. May Allah rain perversions on the Imperialist American Pigs!
Bashir: That sucks. A thousand perversions to the Infidels.
Father: What did you do today?
Bashir: Praise be to Allah, I put out one roadside IED and helped prepare a suicider for a Mosque mission at evening prayers.
Father: Praise be to Allah, but did you stop by the Coalition Forces Outreach Center like your Mother asked you to?
Bashir: Yes, Papa I did.
Father: And did you tell them that death squads have harassing and threatening your Mother, sisters and our neighbors?
Bashir: Yes Papa I did. They said that they already knew and intended to step up patrols. They were very sympathetic.
Father: A thousand perversions to the Imperialist Occupiers.
Bashir: Praise be to Allah, a thousand perversions.

]]> By: PLC (PatrioticLiberalChristian) http://thinkprogress.org/2006/08/08/iraq-casey/comment-page-2/#comment-715125 PLC (PatrioticLiberalChristian) Tue, 08 Aug 2006 18:55:36 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/08/08/iraq-casey/#comment-715125 Notice that Mighty Aphrodite and exley have no comments on the generals assertion about civil war. Interesting how his assessment flies into the face of the Bush apologists and they are no where to provide a counterpoint or otherwise defame the general because he does not subscribed to their reality from thousands of miles from Baghdad. Comment by NoMoreBush — August 8, 2006 @ 2:51 pm Oh, I'm sure they are in contact with the talking point gurus to find a way to spin this as progressive misinterpretation and/or Clinton's fault. Notice that Mighty Aphrodite and exley have no comments on the generals assertion about civil war. Interesting how his assessment flies into the face of the Bush apologists and they are no where to provide a counterpoint or otherwise defame the general because he does not subscribed to their reality from thousands of miles from Baghdad.

Comment by NoMoreBush — August 8, 2006 @ 2:51 pm

Oh, I’m sure they are in contact with the talking point gurus to find a way to spin this as progressive misinterpretation and/or Clinton’s fault.

]]> By: NoMoreBush http://thinkprogress.org/2006/08/08/iraq-casey/comment-page-2/#comment-715117 NoMoreBush Tue, 08 Aug 2006 18:51:07 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/08/08/iraq-casey/#comment-715117 Notice that Mighty Aphrodite and exley have no comments on the generals assertion about civil war. Interesting how his assessment flies into the face of the Bush apologists and they are no where to provide a counterpoint or otherwise defame the general because he does not subscribed to their reality from thousands of miles from Baghdad. Notice that Mighty Aphrodite and exley have no comments on the generals assertion about civil war. Interesting how his assessment flies into the face of the Bush apologists and they are no where to provide a counterpoint or otherwise defame the general because he does not subscribed to their reality from thousands of miles from Baghdad.

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