National Review Editor: ‘Global Warming Is Great’
National Review Editor: ‘Global Warming Is Great’
It’s getting difficult to distinguish actual opposition to global warming science and parody. FYI, the following is not a joke.
National Review editor James S. Robbins shares his thoughts today:
Personally, I don’t know what all the shouting is about. Global warming is great. Granted, maybe it isn’t really happening, and if it is there are strong reasons to doubt that humans have anything to do with it. But if the world is warming, I say “bravo.â€
What are the benefits? According to Robbins, “vast regions” of Canada would become “comfortably habitable,” “more land will be available for cultivation,” and there will be a “land boom up the coastlines as people rushed on up for beachfront property.”
Robbins brushes off all negative consequences. He acknowledges that rising sea levels could create “some dislocations” but says that a worldwide sea level rise of as much as 20 feet could be taken care of with “some form of sea wall.” The image above illustrates the impact a 20 foot sea level rise on Florida. Apparently, Robbins plans on building a sea wall around the entire state.
Robbins doesn’t even mention increased hurricane intensity, drought, wildfires and the other severe impacts of global warming — much less explain, as he claims, how these natural phenomena can “be overcome.”
Robbins concludes, when “you are enjoying the surfing at your beach house in upper Newfoundland, you won’t care what caused global warming, you’ll just thank goodness it happened.” In so doing, he illustrates an important point. Intentional or not, his arguments are a joke.
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I wonder if Jason Hendler helped in gathering info for this piece.
August 8th, 2006 at 2:52 pmC’mon Mr. Hendler.
Let’s hear it: Global warming is not happening, correct?
You know more than the IPCC, and climate science is just reading a thermometer.
::sigh::
August 8th, 2006 at 2:55 pmI guess the Meth epidemic is real afterall.
August 8th, 2006 at 2:56 pmIf this is NOT a joke, the writer is so seriously deluded that he needs to be locked up. Most of the world population is on the coasts. Most of our infrastructure is there too. The oil refineries, the ports, the factories, the roads. Not to mention all the high priced high rised condominiums. Granted these aren’t a good idea, buts its still a fair percentage of the nation’s housing stock.
August 8th, 2006 at 2:56 pmHe hasn’t thought about the devestation to our corn crops, putting I don’t know how many farmers across the middle of our country out of work and ending one of our top exports?
He hasn’t thought about the species that will become extinct, and other problems created within our ecosystem?
Has he thought of anything???
“Bueller….
Bueller…..
Bueller…..”
August 8th, 2006 at 2:56 pmYikes, and I thought that O’Reilly was dumb!
August 8th, 2006 at 2:56 pmBravor for war, famine and disease! Are all great because they weed out the surplus population.
Bravo for meth! Think of all the dentists who’ll have an endless supply of patients who need new teeth.
Bravo for ignorance! Without stupid people, we could never have stupid leaders.
August 8th, 2006 at 2:59 pmFine. He can buy my house, situated a little less than two small miles from the beach….
August 8th, 2006 at 2:59 pm(sucker)
Time for America to have a media overhaul, V for Vendetta
August 8th, 2006 at 3:00 pmRobbins doesn’t even mention increased hurricane intensity, drought, wildfires and the other severe impacts of global warming
Uh, hate to inform TP, but hurricanes, droughts and wildfires are not arecent occurrence. As for increased hurricance activity? There is no compelling evidence that is happening according TP favorite source, the IPCC:
There is no compelling evidence to indicate that the
August 8th, 2006 at 3:00 pmcharacteristics of tropical and extratropical storms have
changed. Changes in tropical storm intensity and frequency
are dominated by interdecadal to multidecadal variations,
which may be substantial, e.g., in the tropical North Atlantic.
Owing to incomplete data and limited and conflicting
analyses, it is uncertain as to whether there have been any
long-term and large-scale increases in the intensity and
frequency of extra-tropical cyclones in the Northern
Hemisphere. Regional increases have been identified in the
North Pacific, parts of North America, and Europe over the
past several decades. In the Southern Hemisphere, fewer
analyses have been completed, but they suggest a decrease in
extra-tropical cyclone activity since the 1970s. Recent
analyses of changes in severe local weather (e.g., tornadoes,
thunderstorm days, and hail) in a few selected regions do not
provide compelling evidence to suggest long-term changes.
In general, trends in severe weather events are notoriously
difficult to detect because of their relatively rare occurrence
and large spatial variability.
No one ever seems to consider the notion that the ocean will be dead or dying after the sea level rises. All the waste that will be released when the oceans rise will contaminate it to toxic levels. Think about all the refineries along the coast, nuclear plants that will be flooded (like Turkey Point in Florida), not to mention all the household and factory chemicals that will be washed into the sea. Good luck with the new beachfront property in upper Newfoundland Mr. Robbins, I hope you can stand the smell.
August 8th, 2006 at 3:00 pmWell, someone at National Review is definitely “baked”, if you know what I mean.
August 8th, 2006 at 3:02 pmwow, I think Pat Roberts understands what’s going on better than he does
August 8th, 2006 at 3:02 pmPerhaps the next species that rises to dominance on this planet will do a better job of conserving the planet’s resources. We’re certainly doing a crappy job of it. Most animals know better than to engulf their living space with their personal pollution.
August 8th, 2006 at 3:03 pmthis guy fell on his head before writing this article… then he smoked eight joints of mj and drank a pint of Thunderbird and to cap it off injected heroin into his right arm… and had help from Mighty Aphrodite…
August 8th, 2006 at 3:07 pmMine is 800 feet from waters’ edge and 14 feet above median sea level. Since both I and my spouse (she adds another year today) are over 65 – it will be somebody else’s problem. I still care; this planet belongs to my kids, my grandkids, humankind and their progeny, not me.
August 8th, 2006 at 3:18 pm#9
Uh, hate to inform you but the scientific theories of global warming don’t claim that hurricanes, wildfires, droughts, etc. are a new occurance – only that they will BECOME MORE SEVERE and MORE COMMON.
And guess what? Recent data supports these claims, contrary to the rest of your post. Hurricanes and wildfires have seen a spike in intensity. While this is not complete proof, it IS supportive evidence.
Temperatures are rising, wildfires are getting worse, hurricanes are beginning to get worse, the poles are melting, etc. All these are indicators that global warming is real. There is no spike in solar intensity or any other natural phenomenon of the climate which can explain these sudden changes.
August 8th, 2006 at 3:20 pmI was replying to trueblue #7 in my #16.
August 8th, 2006 at 3:20 pmThe National Hurricane Center moderated its earlier hurricane season predictions.
Remember when Alan Greenspan used the phrase “irrational exuberance”? I wonder how well it fits when you talk about speculation of the meteorological variety.
August 8th, 2006 at 3:22 pmhttp://www.sci-tech-today.com/story.xhtml?story_id=35979
The amount of carbon dioxide added to the atmosphere by human activities (2 percent of 0.03 percent, which is 0.000006 percent) when compared to water that is always present (range of 0.5 percent to 4 percent) is a very small amount.
Because there is a lot more water in the atmosphere than carbon dioxide and because water absorbs so much more energy than carbon dioxide, we should conclude that the effect that these gases have on the warming of the atmosphere is largely caused by water. Man’s contribution, although it certainly exists, is more like throwing a stone into the ocean, real and calculable, but barely noticeable.
August 8th, 2006 at 3:24 pmWow, that is pretty retarded.
http://www.theworstpresidentever.org
August 8th, 2006 at 3:25 pmA sea wall.
A SEA WALL?
Why are morons like this even allowed to write? This fantabulous sea wall would of course be built by the Army corps of engineers, and will prove every bit as effective as the levees of New Orleans.
August 8th, 2006 at 3:27 pmSo, the point is that one can be a complete blithering idiot and still be allowed to write for a major publication that conservatives think is somehow informative?
Yeah, I really like global warming, too. It’s great. Pretty soon I won’t have to use a microwave to reheat leftovers. OH BOY!!!!
August 8th, 2006 at 3:27 pmthis humanoid is taking the tack that it is good that we will lose a billion people near the seas, making new oceanfront property for them to invest in with their petro dollars, and driving down the price of his bubblin’ crude
August 8th, 2006 at 3:29 pmsince no petro dollars have been invested in any infrastructure in our country, it of course will magically happen because that is how this country does things, faith
#19
You people completely miss the point. When we say hurricanes will get worse and temperatures will rise, we’re not talking about any SINGLE year. The deciding piece of evidence is the long term TREND which in both cases shows a trend of increasing temperatures and stronger hurricanes. As always the weather will vary from year to year with some years worse than others. But the TREND will be increasing temps overall. Next summer may be cooler than this year. But over a 10 year period there will be a clear trend.
August 8th, 2006 at 3:34 pmDon’t bother posting articles or anything else from that rag. It’s the print version of a troll, and I should YHBT the whole ThinkProgress staff for treating this seriously. Stop debating these pathetic points the right makes up and spews out–it just makes you spend less time on the important things. I’m sure if I read “Think Evangelical” I would be up in arms about all the outrages reported in the pages of Skeptic magazine. It’s too easy.
August 8th, 2006 at 3:37 pm#19 Chase
The National Hurricane Center moderated its earlier hurricane season predictions.
If we had three more hurricanes this year than the annual average, it wouldn’t prove the case for global warming. If we had the same number as or less than the annual average, it wouldn’t disprove it. You really have to step back and look at the big picture. Climate scientists did not arrive at their concusions by walking outside of their houses and seeing if it felt really really hot to them. And, if you can’t be bothered with trying to learn what methods were used and how they came to their conclusions, then just admit that you don’t understand this stuff and move on to another topic. But, just stop trying to say that one event or one comparatively small sampling decides the whole issue.
Besides that, you’re talking about predictions about one season. Wait until the hurricane season is over and maybe it’ll merit discussion.
August 8th, 2006 at 3:39 pm#20
More misleading numbers.
The total amount of CO2 in the atmosphere doesn’t need to change much by way of percentage to constitute a huge change in climate.
Looked at from another angle, the amount of CO2 increase in the atmosphere caused by humans is a 30% rise. This is a higher concentration of CO2 in the atmosphere than this planet has seen in at least millions of years.
When you also look at the correlation of CO2 and temperatures written in the record of ice core samples going back hundreds of thousands of years you see a DIRECT relationship. And guess what? The percentage of CO2 does not need to change by drastic amounts to cause huge changes.
Stupidity will kill the human race.
In another 30 years we’ll see some serious consequences, and the global warming deniers will say “Oh crap I guess you guys were right. Sorry!” But by then we will not be able to stop this frieght train of an environmental dissaster.
August 8th, 2006 at 3:39 pmThis is what is driving the conservatives. Big, basically unregulated business under the current misadministration does not want to waste one penny on reducing their possible impact on the environment. The conservatives have risen to power fueled by the money of big business and they aren’t about to allow concern for the environment to negatively impact their share holders in controlling the government. We can expect to see more “respected†publications of the conservative persuasion coming out with enlightened articles which are nothing more than obfuscation of reality. But it plays well to conservatives who enjoy discounting anyone who presents a point of view which is different from theirs.
August 8th, 2006 at 3:40 pmHappy Birthday to Mrs. Walt!
August 8th, 2006 at 3:43 pmForecast for named storms and hurricanes lowered – no such thing as global warming.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,207436,00.html
Gee, since there were no hurricanes after half the season passed, I guess it would be easy to lower the forecast – hindsight is 20 / 20.
August 8th, 2006 at 3:43 pmNational Review….now THAT is a trusted source of information….for Rush Limbaugh and his ditto-dolts.
August 8th, 2006 at 3:43 pmExcept, of course, the diseases that spread from the insects that usually are killed in winter.
The lily white christians call that population control…
August 8th, 2006 at 3:46 pmIs there any way we can make it against the rules to link a fox “news” story? ;)
August 8th, 2006 at 3:47 pm#34, trueblue,
You guys gripe when I don’t post links, and now that I post them, you are still griping. It is an AP / Reuters story, so it doesn’t matter from what news org I find it.
August 8th, 2006 at 3:52 pmJason,
August 8th, 2006 at 3:53 pmChill. Notice the wink afterwards. I don’t have my panties in a bunch….
CONS sure do go to great lengths in order to delude themselves.
August 8th, 2006 at 3:54 pmIt’s a shame that ignorance is their geatest source of pride.
You know there is a whole school of thought on this subject, and shouldn’t editors, I mean shouldn’t they just shut up when a subject is outside of there profession?
Only a PIG would see flooding, drought, famine and death as a good thing. These people embrace mammon$$. A human life to them is as important as an ants.
Money has replaced morals, cold beer surfing and beachfront property will alleviate all your worries, forget the innocent lives lost in a war for freedom and nation building, turn off the Teebee and party like it’s 1999, do the bad deed and hop on the good foot!!
Ignoring a problem always makes it go away…
August 8th, 2006 at 3:54 pmA Carvillian message for the Bush Pundit-o-Cons;
“It’s the Stupidity, Stupid.”
August 8th, 2006 at 3:56 pm#37, trueblue,
Oops, you are right – sorry.
August 8th, 2006 at 3:59 pmSo the real problem with global warming is that we’ll all have to be Canadian immigrants and be subject to the SOCIALIST health care system.
Unacceptable! Quick, increase fuel economy standards! Research alternative energy! Replant the rain forests!
Even us capitalist pigs have to have our priorities straight.
August 8th, 2006 at 3:59 pmNBD, Jason.
August 8th, 2006 at 3:59 pmThere is an answer to this pathetic propaganda.
Earmarking donations -by the contributer- for PSAs.
Conditional donations.
To Democrats.
Spend the money on prime time PSAs or you don’t get my money.
Clearly, noone is going to “fix” the media. It needs to be infused with PAID ADVERTISEMENTS.
August 8th, 2006 at 4:00 pmSurfing at the Arctic Circle ,ahhh, how the simple mind crawls.
August 8th, 2006 at 4:02 pmEven with the increase in ocean level, my condo is on the 7th floor, so I’m good.
August 8th, 2006 at 4:02 pmI think you missed my point.
Hurricane forecasters, be they NOAA or university affiliated, were under the microscope this year more than ever before. I honestly believe they let the pressure influence their predictions.
When it came time for them to release their pre-season reports, everyone was waiting with baited breath. With the effects of last years hurricanes still fresh in everyone’s mind, and the media storm surrounding global warming, they were put in a position where they could either:
(1) predict well-above average hurricane activity, with more stronger storms and more landfalls – a prediction that satisfied the expectations of both the media and the public, or
(2) predict an average season, rebuffing the overwrought media, and risk being dismissed.
If they stepped outside the zeitgeist, so many would have called them “hacks” or accuse them of “ignoring the effects of global warming”.
Now you have a situation where over a third of the season has passed, and passed quietly.
Side note: on CSPAN this morning, at the press conference where this update was announced, the NOAA director made the point that higher ocean water temperatures don’t necessarily mean more, or even stronger hurricanes. I believe the explanation was higher surface water temps mean there is a different heat distribution in the atmosphere that makes the air less buoyant for weather systems and might influence hurricanes. Anyone have any idea about this?
August 8th, 2006 at 4:05 pm#46 all you have to do is hang your wide ass out the window to take a dump,talk about convenience, Lucky.
August 8th, 2006 at 4:07 pm#47, Chase,
You are correct. It is sad when NASA climatologists and National Weather Service personnel are now coming under intense pressure from the left to buy into the hysteria. Those babes in the woods have no idea what the left is willing to do to get them in line with their myths, and they will be hung out to dry like Cindy Shehan when the left is done with them.
August 8th, 2006 at 4:08 pmWell, it looks good for Canada…uh Canada’s not part of the U.s. right? well screw ‘em. If things get nasty here and look good up there we’ll just take over, hell it worked out o.k. in Iraq didn’t it?
August 8th, 2006 at 4:08 pm#48 – you should see a shrink about your fixation with my posterior.
August 8th, 2006 at 4:09 pmAsk NOLA about “sea walls”…
August 8th, 2006 at 4:15 pmIt is sad when NASA climatologists and National Weather Service personnel are now coming under intense pressure from the left to buy into the hysteria.-Hendler
Jason, that’s simply not true. I happen to know several NASA climatologists personally, and this is nonsense. I would guess the same for the National Weather Service personnel. The “left” doesn’t hold any leverage over them: where would the pressure come from?
August 8th, 2006 at 4:19 pmthey will be hung out to dry like Cindy Shehan when the left is done with them.
Comment by Jason M. Hendler — August 8, 2006 @ 4:08 pm
I like the way you use the “left” as your boogeyman, the ever-present ruthless evil that drives fear into the honest hearts of both men and women.
In your fairy tale books, as a child, did that “left” try to eat the Little Red Riding Hood?
August 8th, 2006 at 4:20 pmgregor,
ask jason why the republicans won’t implement national healthcare system, his answer is a riot.
August 8th, 2006 at 4:22 pmgee, I thought the wingnut knock on NOLA and reason for not spending money on rebuilding it (other than the unstated reason of bigotry) was that the city is below sea level – one city. That’ll be some construction when its much of the world.
August 8th, 2006 at 4:23 pm.
More on global warming.
I consider the concept of a global mean temperature [upon which global warming statistics are based] to be somewhat dubious, and I say so in my recent book (with Eugene Clothiaux) Fundamentals of Atmospheric Radiation. A single number cannot adequately capture climate change. This number, as I see it, is aimed mostly at politicians and journalists.
The issue of global warming is extremely complicated, and it transcends science. Views on global warming are as much determined by political and religious biases as by science.
More on global warming from Junkscience.com.
August 8th, 2006 at 4:24 pmEven with the increase in ocean level, my condo is on the 7th floor, so I’m good.
Comment by Jason M. Hendler — August 8, 2006 @ 4:02 pm
Always about you. Good afternoon. Its gonna rain hard today here.
August 8th, 2006 at 4:24 pmThose babes in the woods have no idea what the left is willing to do to get them in line with their myths, and they will be hung out to dry like Cindy Shehan when the left is done with them.
Comment by Jason M. Hendler — August 8, 2006 @ 4:08 pm
One question: why this science issue has to be a right or left issue? You are mixing things. Aristotles was from the right and Copernicus, Kepler and Galileo from the left? What are those myths, WE in the left, are making up?
August 8th, 2006 at 4:30 pmIf global warming isn’t real than why is there no debate in the scientific community over it? Seems to me that all the scientists agree that it’s happening. It’s only the scared and the stupid want to deny it.
August 8th, 2006 at 4:40 pm#46 – JMH,
August 8th, 2006 at 4:41 pmBiking to the local 7-11 in 20 feet of water is a bit difficult, or do you intend to drive? In addition, what do you intend to do when your condo sinks into the sea? Set up house in a rubber raft?
Hey, do I stink? Why everybody left the thread?
August 8th, 2006 at 4:41 pmDamn my luck. :)
In another 30 years we’ll see some serious consequences, and the global warming deniers will say “Oh crap I guess you guys were right. Sorry!†But by then we will not be able to stop this frieght train of an environmental dissaster.
Comment by ReadyForChange — August 8, 2006 @ 3:39 pm
So, if your dire predictions don’t come true in thirty years, are you prepared to admit that your side was wrong? I doubt it since your side has been wrong so often before and never concedes to anything. It wasn’t that long ago your scientists that you put so much faith and trust in, were predicting another ice age to hit. Maybe the stupid people of France would be more receptive to your message cause it ain’t selling here!
August 8th, 2006 at 4:42 pmJuan, I’m stiil here.
August 8th, 2006 at 4:43 pmJuan, I’m stiil here.
Comment by WaltTheMan — August 8, 2006 @ 4:43 pm
Thanks, Walt. Happy birthday to your Mrs!
August 8th, 2006 at 4:44 pmRandy, Look outside.
August 8th, 2006 at 4:44 pmIt wasn’t that long ago your scientists that you put so much faith and trust in, were predicting another ice age to hit.
Comment by Randy — August 8, 2006 @ 4:42 pm
Our scientists? WTF are you talking about? I am sure you will be willing to light the fire in Salem once again.
August 8th, 2006 at 4:48 pm#68
Its called summer. It happens every year about this time. Whats your point?
August 8th, 2006 at 4:50 pmJuan,
August 8th, 2006 at 4:50 pmShe thanks you, thanks.
I Think this Guy was the only person on this planet that loved the Movie WATERWORLD!
August 8th, 2006 at 4:51 pmWhat a friggen NUT!
More on global warming from Junkscience.com.-muckdog
This would be the same junkscience.com that’s sponsored by the fossil-fuel industries? That’s a reliable source.
Newsflash: respectable scientists do not base their opinions on their political ideology or religion.
August 8th, 2006 at 4:51 pm#71 – Randy,
August 8th, 2006 at 4:53 pmTwo words – Record heat!
We should round up all the “global warming is great” buffoons onto an island and charge for people to watch them eat each other or face starvation. NOW THATS pay-per-view entertainment!!!
August 8th, 2006 at 4:54 pmbefore junkscience(dotcom) gets plugged again, allow me to remind the viewers who Steven Milloy is: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steven_Milloy and http://www.junkscience.com/Junkman.html
August 8th, 2006 at 4:54 pm#74
So you don’t think that we have more accurate thermometers these days than say 100 years ago? This record heat is like comparing what Hank Aaron or Barry Bonds has done to Babe Ruth’s record. There just is no comparison.
August 8th, 2006 at 4:56 pmNice assertion Randy, have any facts to back up why they don’t compare?
I bet if you ask the nice people of Minnesota how often they got 100º wheather, you would get some interesting answers.
August 8th, 2006 at 4:58 pm#78
August 8th, 2006 at 5:04 pmCould it be that as our technology improves, the instruments we invent are far more precise than they were 100 years ago? Duh! If in 100 years, this trend continues, then I’ll take note. As for the Ruth vs Bond vs Aaron comparison, the same thing goes. Ruth didn’t have to face the ace pitchers in today’s league. If he did, do you think he would have hit as many home runs?
Once again Randy any facts? you are just like your president all hat and no cattle.
You forgot the part, about how Ruth also faced the same pitcher, relief pitchers were unknown back then. If you got tired tough, you stuck it out and took your lumps. The technology may be more precise, but tempature measurements have been taken for ages. Do you really think they were off, by that much?
Deny, obfuscate, and attack, what a pathetic bunch of cowards you and your party have become.
August 8th, 2006 at 5:09 pmYo Randy,
If Ruth had access to todays steroids, he probably could hit those steroid-laden pitches of today.
August 8th, 2006 at 5:11 pmTalk about simple ignorance. I live in Canada. Saskatchewan to be exact. Smack dab in the middle of the Prairies and our Province pretty much relies on farming. The past two years have been harder than ever on farmers due to chaotic and unpredictable weather which quite possibly is being caused by GW. Typically, we have had years of fairly dry summers, great for growing many grain crops, and then we suffer through the insanely cold winter…which is actually good because the snowfall brings moisture and often provides groundcover for the soil.
However, lately the winters are seemingly coming later, leaving quicker and we are getting less and less snow. Farming needs this snow for groundcover and moisture. The result is many farms are seeing drought like conditions, even right after winter, because the soil simply isn’t getting enough water. In many places the ground is dry and cracked like a desert.
Also, the once reliable dry and hot summers are seeing months long daily rainfall resulting in flooding of crops, severe rutting of fields and farmers being unable to seed many acres of their crops. This is a financial loss. And the crops that do get planted can get washed away, or they simply see stunted growth because of the lack of sunlight and therefore shortened growth season.
BUt hey…the rain is only for a few months right? Right…unfortunately as soon as our newfound rainy season ends the thermometer jumps into the 30s which feels even hotter thanks to the new humidity. Crops that did survive the rainy months end up basically getting burnt and sun damaged…singed due to the extreme heat that follows all the rain.
Speaking as someone whose whole family is farmign or was born and raised on the farm and still helps out when needed…insane and unpredictable and chaotic weather helps nobody. It is the epitomy of ingnorance for these idiots to assume that global warming ONLY means warmer temperatures.
August 8th, 2006 at 5:15 pmThere are new diseases eating my supposedly disease-resistant tomato plants. The sun is scorching everything, and if I had to grow my own food to survive, even with what I know about growing food plants from experience, I couldn’t.
Yeah, that’s my idea of ‘great’. What a complete ‘maroon’
August 8th, 2006 at 5:27 pmEven with the increase in ocean level, my condo is on the 7th floor, so I’m good.
Comment by Jason M. Hendler — August 8, 2006 @ 4:02 pm
Always about you. Good afternoon. Its gonna rain hard today here.
Comment by Juan C — August 8, 2006 @ 4:24 pm
and the foundation? You think its going to hold up. That’s okay, keep thinking that.
August 8th, 2006 at 5:28 pmIndeed, Randy, just how inaccurate do you think temperature measurement was 100 years ago? Do you think they measured temperature with a stick and a piece of string back then or something?
August 8th, 2006 at 5:30 pm#77 Randy
So you don’t think that we have more accurate thermometers these days than say 100 years ago? This record heat is like comparing what Hank Aaron or Barry Bonds has done to Babe Ruth’s record. There just is no comparison.
How inaccurate were thermometers in the old days, Randy? No idea? Try talking about something you can prove instead of throwing FUD out there. But, let’s go with that for the sake of argument. Isn’t it strange that the readings from supposedly inaccurate thermometers trended steadily upwards as they allegedly got more accurate? And why did the most rapid rates of temperature increase occur in recent years in which we know the thermometers were as accurate as today?
That’s the difference between you and a scientist, Randy. You want to make a point and you desperately want something to be true, so you think up a ridiculous rationalization and don’t even bother to look at anything else before you present it as a sound argument. Scientists don’t have axes to grind. They’re not trying to cherry-pick and shape evidence to convince people of something. They’re just trying to get at the truth and they’re diligent about it. You make something up and call it ‘truth’. Scientists search for the truth.
August 8th, 2006 at 5:48 pmThe global warming hysterics have been debunked. Nothing to see here.
More on the 2006 Hurricane Hype by the alarmists.
This year’s season so far has been a welcome change from the tropical fury of 2005. Maybe global warming isn’t so bad — or maybe global warming has nothing to do with it.
The fact is that last season proved nothing about global warming, and this season will prove nothing as well. There’s just too much natural fluctuation in the weather to draw conclusions from one year or a few.
Snip…
But there’s a world of difference between his brand of science and the apocalyptic projections of Al Gore. The real inconvenient truth, conveyed by Landsea and other careful researchers, is that we still know too little about where the world’s climate has been and, especially, where it is going.
August 8th, 2006 at 5:55 pmUnbelievable;
August 8th, 2006 at 6:00 pmIf you are gardening do you notice any benefits to global warming? Longer planting seasons, less winter kill? Are some plants benefiting, for example Poison Ivy and Kudzu thrive with increase C02.
Do the gains outweigh the losses? Can you change your garden to plant heat tolerant crops?
Various pundits assured me months ago that plants and people could adapt to the global warming. I’m adapting by staying in the air conditioning.
Walt: Happy Birthday to Mrs. Walt!
TrueBlue: Hey, maybe when the oceans rise, I’llhave beachfront property, too!
I’ve missed posting, been out of commission for the past few weeks with a fractured elbow, but I’ve been trying to keep up with everything.
This Robbins guy is a joke–southern NY, where we are, never USED to be tornado alley.
August 8th, 2006 at 6:06 pm#91 – Skeptic,
August 8th, 2006 at 6:10 pmThe pea and broccoli season where I live (Saint Augustine) is shortening. Cabbage and Dill are a lost cause. Tomatos burst before they are ripe. Perhaps, I could develop a taste for cacti.
If you are gardening do you notice any benefits to global warming?
None that outweigh the reality that because evolution is slower than Global Warming, if edible plants die, so do we. Period.
Longer planting seasons, less winter kill? Are some plants benefiting, for example Poison Ivy and Kudzu thrive with increase C02.
Not longer planting season if what I planted two weeks earlier is dying two to three months early due to heat stress and drought.
You can’t eat Kudzu. It, by the way, kills trees that help remove CO2 from the air… so Kudzu is bad enough without the help.
Do the gains outweigh the losses?
We’d have to find a genuine gain first. And so far, the rule of ‘balance’ seems to be opposing such a thing…
Can you change your garden to plant heat tolerant crops?
Cacti, you mean? Otherwise, evolution isn’t keeping up with the rapid climate change for typical garden vegetables in my area.
Various pundits assured me months ago that plants and people could adapt to the global warming. I’m adapting by staying in the air conditioning.
Comment by Skeptic — August 8, 2006 @ 6:00 pm
Those who believe in “Intelligent Design” and dismiss evolution? This is exactly why we don’t want ID taught in science class. It’s not just ridiculous, it’s dangerous…
Wait until there’s no a/c. Then how will you adapt?
August 8th, 2006 at 6:13 pmActually they used to measure temp. with the use of the nipple. Either mens or womens. Although certain ones were more easily read than others. Some people tried to use the teet of a cow, it didnt work. Although cat nipples were seen as effective. Dont ever try to milk a cat by the way. The use of the nipple to measure temp. was stopped by the victorian, puritan people. These people now have legitamized the occasional use of the nipple at historical funcitons, they have even gone underground and are thought to be attempting to measure the Temp at the 2004 superbowl halftime.
August 8th, 2006 at 6:21 pmJane E. Schneider said:
August 8th, 2006 at 6:22 pmWalt: Happy Birthday to Mrs. Walt!
She said thanks, but will keep the number secret.
I beleive global climate change is happening, warming that is. No need to argue with people on the 7th floor, they will find out in time.
August 8th, 2006 at 6:26 pmWhat’s this sudden interest in cats? Ours is 22 and trim and active. The vet is almost in traction! We have not told him about our Cairn Terrior who lived 27 years in four countries (USA, Germany, Spain and Italy).
August 8th, 2006 at 6:32 pmYou know this is why the government pays ACTUAL scientists to present conclusiond to reasearch and INTERPRET the research. National Review reports can report but their “opinions” are like everybody else’s – and hiring political weasels to edit the research of ACTUAL scientists so the conclusions favor your point of view is unforgivable.
August 8th, 2006 at 6:50 pmthe stupid thing is why even argue about it? Take the safe route, assume global warming is true and is caused by manmade polutants, and act to prevent it – doing so would likely be an economic boon developing and implementing new technologies. The only ones to get hurt REPEAT: the ONLY ones to get hurt would be the fossil fuel industries that REFUSE TO ADAPT. (Mother nature LOVES change. Those who refuse to adapt are supposed to die – they’re dead weight.)
August 8th, 2006 at 7:42 pm#97, exactly. If you think there is global warming, do something about it. Get rid of your car(s). Shut off the gas and electricity to your home. Quit farting (methane). Get rid of the concrete around the house (heat island effect). Etc.
Do something about it instead of complaining. Be pro-active.
August 8th, 2006 at 8:06 pmWhat do you think about this article http://www.orato.com/node/398, written by Dr. Tim Ball, first Canadian Ph.D. in Climatology?
August 8th, 2006 at 8:14 pmDo something about it instead of complaining. Be pro-active.
Comment by muckdog — August 8, 2006 @ 8:06 pm
Give me your address. I’ll buy you a muzzle. I figure shutting your yap has got to be good for atleast a couple tons of methane and CO2 per day…
August 8th, 2006 at 8:20 pmIf you think there is global warming, do something about it. Get rid of your car(s). Shut off the gas and electricity to your home. Quit farting (methane). Get rid of the concrete around the house (heat island effect). Etc.
Do something about it instead of complaining. Be pro-active.
Comment by muckdog — August 8, 2006 @ 8:06 pm
That’s it! People who are intellegent enought to understand science should live in caves and walk everywhere so that idiots like yourself can get cheaper gas for your Hummers.
We should all reduce our consumption!!!
August 8th, 2006 at 8:27 pmI’ve missed posting, been out of commission for the past few weeks with a fractured elbow, but I’ve been trying to keep up with everything.
Comment by Jane E. Schneider
Ow, ow, OW! How?
August 8th, 2006 at 8:35 pmWe should all reduce our consumption!!!
Comment by G.W.SuperChrist
I agree, GWSC.
Hey, long time, no see.
August 8th, 2006 at 8:36 pm#101, we could build more nuclear power plants. That’s clean energy. Are you for that?
August 8th, 2006 at 8:37 pmNuclear Energy, hmmmm.. I think it would be an interim solution to help get off of the oil. I would lke to see better ways of disposal.
August 8th, 2006 at 8:44 pmHey, long time, no see.
Comment by Zooey — August 8, 2006 @ 8:36 pm
Yes it has been a while. I took a 5 week camping trip out West and decided that I kind of liked being completely out of touch with the affairs of the world. I guess it was only a matter of time before I clocked back in, but it sure was nice not knowing for a while. I think I finally understand how republicans feel:)
Is Zooey a new handle for Zookeeper? If so it is good to see an old familiar name… even if it is not so familiar.
August 8th, 2006 at 8:52 pmI think I finally understand how republicans feel:)
Oh, don’t even think that. *shudder*
Is Zooey a new handle for Zookeeper? If so it is good to see an old familiar name… even if it is not so familiar.
Comment by G.W.SuperChrist
It is. I have a new job, so I am no longer the Zookeeper. Several commenters were already calling me Zooey, so it stuck. Welcome back to the world — sorry we haven’t been taking too good care of it.
August 8th, 2006 at 8:57 pmWelcome back to the world — sorry we haven’t been taking too good care of it.
Comment by Zooey — August 8, 2006 @ 8:57 pm
Thanks for the welcome back.
No need to apologize for the state of the world… It seems only slightly crappier than the already extremely crappy state that I left it in:)
August 8th, 2006 at 9:09 pmwe could build more nuclear power plants. That’s clean energy. Are you for that?
Comment by muckdog — August 8, 2006 @ 8:37 pm
Apparently you’ve never been to Nevada… Nuclear is not clean.
Go Google Chernobyl to see what happens when there’s a problem with that system. Three eyed frogs are not a positive by-product.
August 8th, 2006 at 9:11 pmI spent 5 weeks doing the same thing last year GWSC. I had a difficult time adjusting back to ‘civilized’ life. Once you unplug from teh Matrix, it’s so hard to plug back in. Such a toxic system we’ve created here. Welcome back, hope you had a great adventure!
August 8th, 2006 at 9:14 pmGWSC,
TP is certainly showing some wear and tear. We have smart troll, dumb trolls, some of the same old trolls, paid trolls, banned trolls, and inexplicably banned commenters such as James Risser, TripMasterMonkey, and someone else I’m missing. They show up every now and then under an altered name. And the usual thread hijackers, such as yours truly. :)
August 8th, 2006 at 9:16 pmUnbelievable – It’s good to see that you’re still around fighting the good fight. Thanks for the welcome back. I did have a great adventure… I got to climb several soon to be puddles of water (glaciers). Now I can confirm to my future children that they actually did exist.
Zooey – smart trolls? Really? What’s next odorless shit?
August 8th, 2006 at 9:39 pmGardeners;
August 8th, 2006 at 9:52 pmI knew that lettuce and peas and spinach and lettuce needed cool weather. I thought that turnips and chard and beans and corn and zucchini were hot weather plants and would fill up your garden. Is the heat alone wrecking your garden or is it heat and drought?
Zooey – smart trolls? Really? What’s next odorless shit?
Comment by G.W.SuperChrist
You crack me up!
I amend my previous phrase to read as such: trolls with enough brains to be dangerous, but who are not nearly as smart as they think they are.
Ok?
August 8th, 2006 at 10:02 pmThe seas may rise faster than you think.
If the West Antartic ice shelf and the Greenland
glacier slide into the ocean, each will raise the
sea level by 20 feet very fast. They are both
moving faster every year.
Find a good place about 50 feet above sea level
August 8th, 2006 at 10:22 pmand buy it if you want oceanfront property in say
less than 20 years.
#111 – Me Zooey – I’m in the Secure Undisclosed location – can’t use my main IP – must change it regularly.
August 8th, 2006 at 10:48 pmI swear this appeared on the Colbert Report as part of The Word last month. Either this guy ripped off the show, or what was meant as a joke by one is someone else’s reality…
August 8th, 2006 at 10:52 pmMe Zooey – I’m in the Secure Undisclosed location – can’t use my main IP – must change it regularly.
Comment by TerrytheTurtle
How could I forget!? Sorry! I’m also sorry you got banned for no apparent reason. TP is really whacked sometimes.
Secure Undisclosed location? Watch out for “Dick” Cheney. :}
August 8th, 2006 at 11:00 pmThe following is an except from an article by Mark Bowden about Jim Hansen, the NASA climate scientists:
Global-warming deniers like to complain that scientists base their predictions on faulty computer models. But Hansen’s calculations show that we don’t need a computer to know how temperature will respond to a given change in the greenhouse — or a change in dustiness, or forest cover, or the amount of ice on the Arctic Ocean. Solid geological field data give us everything we need — and provide a check for computer models. And lend credibility to Hansen’s predictions.
Besides demonstrating his firm grasp of the power of these various factors to change temperatures, this remarkable matching of theory to real-world data also tells us just how ornery the climate beast may be: the orbital changes that paced the ice ages were incredibly small. They had little effect on the total amount of sunlight reaching Earth in a single year — only its distribution over seasons and latitudes. Nevertheless, these minute redistributions led to swings in temperature of about 5 ºC and variations in sea level of more than 100 meters.
Greenhouse-gas levels, on the other hand, are more like a knob controlling the brightness of the sun. And the turning up of the rheostat that humanity has accomplished by adding about a trillion tons of carbon dioxide to the atmosphere thus far in the industrial era dwarfs the redistributions in sunlight that once switched the planet back and forth between glacials and interglacials. We are poking the climate beast in a way it has not been poked in the entire era of cyclical ice ages — at least two million years. As Hansen told his audience last December, “Humans now control global climate, for better or worse.”
Hey, maybe Hansen is wrong and the global warming deniers are right, but since he’s been studying the problem for 30+ years and most of the global warming deniers only study Limbaugh and Crichton, I’m putting my money on Hansen.
August 8th, 2006 at 11:32 pmAstonishing self inflicted ignorance. Sometimes I feel that we will get what we deserve due to our ignorance and arrogance, and then I ponder the strength of the human survival instinct and hope that we will in fact survive. We certainly seem to be on the cusp.
August 8th, 2006 at 11:32 pmLet’s look at the positive side. Wouldn’t global warming take out that portion of Florida where Rush Limbaugh roosts (when he’s not in rehab)?
August 8th, 2006 at 11:33 pmThirty years ago, the useful idiots and kooks at Time and Nesweek were declaring a coming “Ice Age”. What caused the end of the last ice age? Karl Rove? Cheney? Bush? Halliburton? Wal-Mart? SUVs? Katherine Harris? Gas out of Al Gore’s ass?
August 8th, 2006 at 11:36 pmThis column sounds like it’s straight from the Colbert Report.
A recent news item said that the famous Swiss mountain, the Eiger, was starting to fall apart due to global warming. Apparently the year round snow and ice at it’s peak held the top of the mountain together, but now that the ice is melting, huge chunks of the mountain are falling down and threaten to destroy the surrounding ski areas, towns and villages.
Bill Buckley who has a Swiss vacation home might want to explain to Robbins that for every “benefit” with “newly created global warming vaction property” there are serious deficits.
I don’t understand how that idiotic piece ever got past the editors, even if it is the NRO, but it does show how seriously deranged the rightwing is. A classic in it’s way.
August 8th, 2006 at 11:38 pmJames S. Robbins = Ecoterrorist
August 8th, 2006 at 11:40 pmRobbin’s assessment is kind of like welcoming a weight reduction accomplished by amputation. It focuses on the good part and either conveniently or ignorantly ignores the bad. He does not understand the full imlpications of Global Warming or the mechanisms involved.
Rising seal levels cover more of the earth in water and reduce the amount of exposed land. Land holds heat and water reflects it. The reduction in land mazz will result in cooling, rapid cooling and lead to ice age within a decade from the onset accomding to climatologist’s computer projections.
This is just proof that ostensibly smart of successful people can be incredibly stupid sometimes and will believe exactly what they want to believe without research, without an attempts to better understand the character or expertise of the speaker (i.e. ethos), without attempts to acknowledge whether the consensus of the learned is unanimous or near unanimous.
He substitutes what he wants to believe (for whatever reasons…hubris, profit, convenience) for the expert opinion of those who have made the study of these things their life’s work and who represent our cultures most expert knowledge in the field, for what? An opinion pulled from his ass.
The pity is that half our country thinks this is OK and in their minds have decided that the learned people are the fruitcakes.
Shame, shame, shame on these Americans. They are a danger to us all.
August 8th, 2006 at 11:55 pmOh. My. God.
August 9th, 2006 at 12:02 amTerrythe turtle, it appears I’m now in the same boat. Unlike you I have left on my own before and now am being blocked out…Oh well! I’m tired of all the trolls and roaches any way..If this post even goes through I will be suprised……Good by all, will miss a few of you and your insight and information….Thanks for the links and education…..May be back, maybe not……..Terrible what Israel is doing to Lebanon……Gas prices here above $3.19 today…Weather still dryer and hotter than most years……Liebermen lost, yippie!…bull shit bush needs to be ejected from office……That pretty much covers my corner of the planet…..Blessings to you all, we need them….Peace, demand it now.
August 9th, 2006 at 12:07 amI completely agree with Mr. Robbins. If I believed global warming exists–and no amount of evidence can convince me that it does–then I would be a big supporter of it.
August 9th, 2006 at 12:33 am[...] Think Progress [...]
August 9th, 2006 at 12:48 amstupid is as stupid does
August 9th, 2006 at 2:20 amIf I believed global warming exists–and no amount of evidence can convince me that it does
Comment by Jon Swift — August 9, 2006 @ 12:33 am
This only shows that evidence means nothing to you, and that you are very close-minded.
It also shows denying global warming has taken a religious significance for you, since you are vowing to keep your belief in spite of contrary evidence, no matter how much or how compelling.
You remind me of creationists, and Bible literalists.
August 9th, 2006 at 2:35 amThe National Review isn’t worth reading *ever* if they are willing to publish that sort of crap. What an unthinking man’s article. Having no respect for others, no respect for any form of life, no respect for science or thinking is fine– but give up your SUV and your plasma television and all of the other things that were gleaned by hardworking people who made education and science their life goal.
Our best environmentalists are farmers, hunters, and outdoorsmen. My sister is a scientist and she determines whether or not certain chemicals cause birth defects or kill animal life. She’s no tree hugger I can assure you. Neither, I am sure are the plurality of scientists that are sounding an alarm on global warming.
We simply have no idea what the stresses the planet can endure, and the climatological record shows that change happens quickly. “Chaos Theory” (i.e. complex iterative systems) predicts this as well. If some terrible chain of events were to occur, it would occur quite quickly.
So keep the opinions of a whiny teenager to yourself and let the grownups do the thinking here. The research isn’t done so mischaracterizing it at this point is obnoxious.
August 9th, 2006 at 2:48 amSounds like the idiot reporter LAUREN ETTER from the Wall Street Journal on the 18th of July that on the front page wrote an article about the joys of global warming in greenland where citizens can enjoy more days in the sun….. what a neligent moron,
August 9th, 2006 at 3:26 amWell one nice thing about the global warming flooding map of Florida is that Republican dominated Miami will slip below the ocean waves eventually!
August 9th, 2006 at 4:18 amWow this guy really thinks outside the box … who needs science when you have a postive outlook and a surfboard?
Maybe the Canadians should start working on that immigration wall now before the bible belt invasion starts.
August 9th, 2006 at 4:34 amWow this guy really thinks outside the box … who needs science when you have a postive outlook and a surfboard?
Maybe the Canadians should start working on that immigration wall now before the bible belt invasion starts.
August 9th, 2006 at 4:34 amThis is not a joke – Mr. Robbins I sincerely hope and even will pray that get cancer!
August 9th, 2006 at 6:57 amWhy were Jason and Chase only talking about Hurricanes? Why weren’t they calling this guy a “Left-Wing Looney”? Oh, that’s right, he is a “RIGHT-WING LOONEY”! So they can’t go there! Awkward!!
August 9th, 2006 at 7:20 amThis from the same crowd who said it was lunacy to build a New Orleans below sea level.
Does he realize that a rise in the ocean is going to move the coastline, not create new coastline? Is Miami going to be a popular tourist destination if the beaches face a 20 foot concrete wall instead of an ocean?
August 9th, 2006 at 7:33 amThis is a joke.
August 9th, 2006 at 8:11 amIf the right wing policy is “fight them there so we don’t have to fight them here”, why does that not apply to issues other than killing other human beings (or is it really just a love of killing other human beings)? “Collateral damage” (i.e. unwarranted death of innocent civilians) is acceptable, so why is it not acceptable to offer the same to the energy companies in economic terms in order to try to stem the ‘possible future tide’ of global warming. If we battle it now we won’t have to battle it later. Have the energy companies pay for it from their profits, with regulations to keep them from passing that along (that would be the ‘collateral damage’ that would occur — regrettable that they lose a little of their vast profits, but it is for a better, stonger, and safer America). I merely suggest that the policy that this administration has pressed and that all supporters of this administration continue to this day to apologize for (philisophically speaking) is actionable on any front that may enganger US interests. Even IF Saddam had WMD, he did not have any delivery systems to reach US soil with them, and therefore was not an immediate threat: he was a ‘possible future threat’. Unless the right wingers want to completely devalue the scientific community’s opinion they must accept that global warming is AT LEAST a potential future threat to the stability of America, and is therefore in need of a pre-emtive strike. If you want to simply ignore the ’scientific community’ and declare that they don’t know what they are talking about, then do not EVER use scientific ‘evidence’ to support ANY claim of your own, and NEVER tout academic credentials as meaning one is intelligent or an expert in one’s field worth listening to. If academia and being considered a “professional” in one’s field makes one an ‘expert’ to be listened to, then one may not simply ignore things that one does not like to hear. You cannot shape the world in your image: the world is objective, not subjective.
To address the idiot quoted in the start of the thread: he is starting what many are trying to make the new right wing talking point and position on global warming. Since they really cannot deny it any more (trolls, see your new talking points), their new tactic is to “look at the bright side” (read, “Pollyanna with partisan goals”) and claim that, “Well, hey, it’s gonna happen, but we’ll be ‘okey dokey’ — no need to alter anything we are doing, and no need to enact any new policies to address the cause. We will just deal with the symptoms as they arise, and ignore the cause because it may inconvenience us and cut into the executive profits.” At least these guys will be happy in hell, with that pollyanna outlook.
August 9th, 2006 at 8:38 amWe’ll grow oranges in Alaska.
August 9th, 2006 at 8:59 amNature has a built-in gene for controlling an out of control humanity. It called a “stupid gene.” You can find the evidence for this gene in the above article.
When conditions get out of control, as is now the case, the “stupid gene” kicks in, and humanity commits irrational acts, plots and wages war, and otherwise carries out self destructive policies. When the population crashes with widespread disasters and pain, the “stupid gene” goes dormant and the cycle begins again, but at a higher level of human consciousness.
Except that this time humanity may not surive the scale of the disaster. That makes helpless awareness of this trend a special hell for those who believe in Karma and Reincarnation.
August 9th, 2006 at 9:12 amBe sure to interview this guy again in ten years when his children and grandchildren are dying of malaria.
August 9th, 2006 at 10:09 amThe person quoting an article at sci-tech-today.com – guess what, that’s not a scientific journal. It’s just one of many domains set up by Newsfactor, whose main business is recycling press releases from the tech industry. So whose press release would you guess is being recycled in this “analysis”?
Anyone can set up an site with something like “science” in the domain name. It doesn’t make it science. Science is when many hundreds of researchers confirm each other’s findings and predictions. Over 99% of those doing science related to climate change agree it’s a serious problem. Science is not like religion, where you can just make things up and then see how many people you can sell your “truth” to in the marketplace.
The most recent science shocker is the acidification of the seas from carbon dioxide creating problems for creatures secreting calcium in their shells and bodies. Within about 50 years, at current rates, the acidified seas will be dissolving the calcium faster than it can be secreted. Since many of these creatures are at the bottom of the food chain, this will cause massive extinctions even of non-calcium-excreting species. There is no dispute that the oceans absorb about half the carbon dioxide we put out. There is no dispute that carbon dioxide acidifies water. There is no dispute that acidified water dissolves calcium. This is a separate problem from climate change, yet an even more serious us, potentially.
We must cut back carbon emissions immediately.
August 9th, 2006 at 10:13 amThe evangelical beliefs of James Robbins are likely in play here. Whether it be his belief that God will ‘provide’ when climate change comes or perhaps an apocolypic rapture lunacy, it is clear this the ideas/opinions of this kook are not worthy of rational examination. You can’t present 21st century scientific evidence to a 3rd century mind and expect meaningful feedback. Let’s all relegate his dogmatic blather to the trash bin — where it belongs. (Note to self: never, ever read National Review)
August 9th, 2006 at 10:37 amre: #29 – “Stupidity will kill the human race.”
Comment by ReadyForChange — August 8, 2006 @ 3:39 pm
the human species is too damn greedy, aggressive and self-centered for its own good – or anything else’s. these qualities led to its ascendency and will just as certainly be the primary cause of its demise. too bad, for all of us.
August 9th, 2006 at 10:53 am[...] OMG…the ignorance of the Right Wing about Global Warming is painful to the point of making me want to scream…and then you’ve got Swiss mountains crumbling because of melting glaciers and people flocking to them as a tourist site. (head smacks forhead) I swear…I’m starting to believe humanity deserves what it gets. [...]
August 9th, 2006 at 11:09 amIt’s official: Republical = moron
August 9th, 2006 at 11:22 amRefresh my memory… is the world round or flat?
August 9th, 2006 at 11:26 amWhat a Maroon!
Gee if we could only get Global Warming to happen only in the Winter think how much energy we could save!
August 9th, 2006 at 11:53 amRight wingers often refer to themselves as “conservatives”, no? What, exactly, are they conserving, again? Either by environmental destruction, world war, or rapture, this crowd seems intent on pushing humanity toward alot of suffering, if not oblivion. Right wingers are seriously deluded, socio-pathic people.
August 9th, 2006 at 1:08 pmWhy don’t you dope-head liberals get off your stoned asses and DO something besides argue about this and other nonsense? Who cares if there is global warming? If there is, I doubt humans have much to do with it, nature is so vast. There ain’t much we can do about it, so quit worrying about it and go help the starving kids in Africa! You’re all a bunch of hypocrites, anyway, how many of you live off the land and in a cave? If you don’t, then shut up about the ecology, you are damaging it as much as anyone else! You have no place pointing fingers at anyone, if you point, point at yourself! If ya’ll are so damn smart, why aren’t you solving these problems? Now go smoke another joint until your next inspiration comes along!
August 9th, 2006 at 1:12 pmSo the right claimss to be morally and religiously superior to all those heathen secular humanists then they pretend they are more intellectual and scientific too. This moron has about a 4th graders grasp of science and the imagination of a carpet salesman.
August 9th, 2006 at 1:12 pmCan we please raise some funds to get this gentleman neutered. Any reproduction by him will get his species into significant disrepute.
August 9th, 2006 at 1:54 pm[...] National Review Editor James S. Robbins thinks “Global warming is great.” [...]
August 9th, 2006 at 2:06 pm[...] Just ask National Review editor James S. Robbins… Personally, I don’t know what all the shouting is about. Global warming is great. Granted, maybe it isn’t really happening, and if it is there are strong reasons to doubt that humans have anything to do with it. But if the world is warming, I say “bravo.” [...]
August 9th, 2006 at 2:23 pm#102, Zooey: I “sure took a tumble!” Tripped over something in our company’s warehouse, fell smack on my elbow on the concrete floor. I didn’t realize it was broken until the next day. ‘Ow’ is least of what I said when it happened!
Be back later, must work one-handed!
August 9th, 2006 at 3:29 pmFor those wing-nut tools that see global warming as a real estate opportunity, let them start by buying up the 9th Ward of New Orleans from the current deed holders at pre-Katrina rates.
August 9th, 2006 at 3:46 pmTo Honey dipper: The IPCC is an organization run by the administration, which only tells lie after lie after lie (just like the administration!). If you believe them, you’re a bigger dope than your post represents. The IPCC site has been criticized by numerous scientists for its lack of facts.
August 9th, 2006 at 3:56 pmWhat on earth has this guy been popping, snorting, and/or smoking lately? It’s certainly done one heck of a job on his intellectual capacity. If “vast regions” of Canada become “comfortably habitable”, this will almost inevitably mean that at least some regions further south become too hot for human habitation — has he forgotten that the earth is curved and that regions near the equator always have a hotter climate than those closer to the poles? That would most likely displace a large number of people. His comments show an utter lack of understanding about how climate works. If you watch television shows like “The Future Is Wild”, you begin to understand that one of the reasons why it’s harder to grow crops in some of the Western states than it is in the Eastern region — it’s because there are more and larger bodies of water in the Eastern part from which moisture can evaporate and fall as precipitation, and wind can only carry it so far. Global warming will not do much if anything to correct this, because it has to do with the land mass of the continent as much as anything. Rising sea levels will likely wash away or flood at least some of the useful farmland and housing land that currently exists, which will drive populations inland and create housing problems. The change in the shoreline will probably help create some farmland which wasn’t there before — but probably nowhere near as much as he thinks,
The Newfies — who he describes as “enjoying the surfing” in the future — have a word for people like this. That word is CHUCKLEHEAD.
August 9th, 2006 at 5:50 pm[...] (via Think Progress) [...]
August 9th, 2006 at 6:02 pmGlobal warming is a crock. In fact, science is a crock.
August 10th, 2006 at 1:22 amYeah, I’ll be happy when my relatives and friends in Seattle are underwater. What an asshole.
August 22nd, 2006 at 12:06 pmif this was a joke what’s the fricken point of posting it because this is what I have to say if it was not a joke: Are you stupid or something? Reading this, I hope mother nature kicks your ass. I personally believe your an Idiot and when mother nature really shows her stuff, boy…. you are going to be sorry you opened your mouth.
October 8th, 2006 at 7:27 pmglobal warming lol PLEASE DONT MAKE ME LAUGH
DID U KNOW EVERY SECOND THAT GOES BY OVER 700 TONES OF Co2 ARE SWEPING OUT INTO THE AIR WORLDWIDE RIGHT NOW THATS OVER 23,000,000,000 TONES EVERY YEAR
ELECTRICIY IS IN SUCH DEMAND TODAY WITH 4-5 BABIES BEING BORN EVERY SECOND AND 2 PEOPLE DIEING, MORE AND MORE HOUSES, FLATS, OFFICES AND OTHER CONSTRUSTIONS ARE BEING BUILT AS WE SPEAK PUTTING MORE AND MORE STRAIN ON THE NATIONAL GRID, THE NATIONAL GRID IS PLANNING MORE AND MORE LINES TO BE BUILT TO COMPENSATE FOR THE EXTRA POWER
EVERY 5 SECONDS SOME WHERE IN THE WORLD A BOEING 747 TAKES OFF
About 3,300 cups of coffee are consumed every second of the day
worldwide
Every three seconds, an area of the South American rain forest the size of a football field is cut down
ALSO THERES FLATUENCE (GAS) NOT JUST FROM COWS BUT FROM EVERY LIVING THING WORLD WIDE AND WITH GOVERNMENTS FAILING TO CUT EMMISIONS IT DOESNT HALF SURPRISE ME, MY GREEN FRIENDS….. LOOK AT THE FACTS………….. YOU CAN GO ABOUT YOUR GREEN WAYS ALL YOUR LIFE BUT YOUR FIGHTING AN ENDLESS WAR, YOUR WASTING YOUR LIFE AWAY..
OH AND EVEN FOR ARGUMENTS SAKE IF….IF EVERY MAN MADE SORCE OF EMMISIONS WAS STOPPED GREENHOUSE GASSES WOULD STILL POLLUTE THE EARTH.. ANIMAL FLATUENCE, DECOMPOSING MATTER…
MY ADVICE TO ALL ENVIROMENTALISTS….FIND SOMETHING ELSE TO DO IN YOUR SPARE TIME LOL
December 28th, 2006 at 8:08 pmSimple Math Question
Global temperatures have gone 1-2 degrees in the past 100 years and we have used 50% of the fossil fuels (oil, natural gas and coal)
How much will the temperature rise in the next 100 years as we burn the remaining 50% of the fossil fuel?
The point of the question is eventually we wil run out of the “trouble making” fuels and that I think that fact should be a bigger concern than a couple degrees on the old thermometer.
January 6th, 2007 at 11:03 amAnother thought for my liberal minded friends.
You could have an ally in “America First” minded conservatives. The problem is you phrase the issue incorrectly. You want people to pollute less and RetroCons want to stop using foreign (Mideast) oil. I see a commonality there. If you phrase alternative energy (solar, wind and dare I say nuclear) as energy independence then you will see allies that you thought were enemies.
Food for Thought…
January 6th, 2007 at 11:19 amssss
January 6th, 2007 at 11:57 amtake a look at these world counters ive found.
carbon counter…
http://zfacts.com/p/44.html
world population counter
http://www.netlingo.com/more/poptick.html
world pop. counter plus productive land clock
http://www.tranquileye.com/clock/
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